Why VSB Isn’t Steve, Hill, Or Jimi and The Motherf*ckers Who Don’t Realize That

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The Champ is a nice guy. Panama Jackson can be. The Champ is a diplomatic chap. Panama Jackson used to give a f*ck. Now he could give a f*ck less. What does he think of success? It sucks, too much stress. And after last weeks brouhaha over mi compadre’s post (you know which one) and the ensuing f*ckery that it spawned from numerous individuals across the net, I, Panama Jackson, was ready to go to the mattresses. But then I realized, it wasn’t my post and my partner was more than able to handle the situation on his own.

But see, I was offended. Now, I wasn’t offended that there was a call for The Champ’s head (no Bobbitt). No, I was offended that some no-name f*ck without an audience managed to lump us (though he specifically referenced the “post” he didn’t just say Champ, he said VSB…HE SAID MY NAME?!?!) in with Steve Harvey, Hill Harper, and Jimi izreal. While dude has the following of a guy who just discovered Blogspot yesterday, that one post got him shine all over the net for at least 35 to 45 seconds, which on Twitter is a lifetime. Within a matter of minutes, anybody who HADN’T heard of us before was thinking, “oh great, more uninformed ridiculous men spouting off non-sense under the guise of being Captain Save-a-Ho”.

And let’s keep it funky, EVERYBODY is trying to understand why those individuals are even apart of the conversation. So now we that poo all over our name to? Fuccouttahere.

With that said, I decided to break it down so that it can forever be broke. Namely, for the simple ninjas in the room (and folks who might be showing up now with haterade in their veins), here are 4 reasons why we are not Steve, Hill, or Jimi:

1. We don’t pander for the panties

Most of our audience is women. This is fact. And that’s great. But you will never catch us writing some non-sense on some holier than thou, enlightened man bull malarkey, which is exactly how Hill Harper comes across (to me anyway). We are observers. Plain and simple. With that said, we take shots at everybody and hold everybody accountable. We don’t specialize in women’s esteem and further, it is not our job to instill it in anybody. Plus, if we were pandering for panties, I seriously doubt we’d write HALF of the stuff we have written, especially me. Shucks, I think at one point, I managed to piss off Mother Theresa, bless her heart. Of course, she dead. So she wasn’t that mad.

2. We don’t pretend to know it all either

I’ve read Steve Harvey’s book. I actually paid my own money for it. And between the terrible writing and ridiculous mentions of “cookies” and fishing, the one thing that stood out was that Steve was attempting to let women know what was up. And I agreed in some places, but others I thought, “man, he is about to f*ck some women up with this.” And just like that, he was a relationship expert showing up on all the major networks attempting to tell women WHAT THEY WERE DOING WRONG. The hell? These women weren’t doing anything wrong for the most part. They were doing the same thing that men do, being picky. Except there is a man shortage…actually…let’s just do this…

3. We aren’t about to just lie for the sake of doing so

Women have a right to be extremely picky when it comes to who they date. So do men. You know what the difference is? For men, it’s a buyers market. Even an ugly man can find him an average to better-than-average looking women because women are substance over style. Men? Not so much. Fact is, men are shallow. For better or worse. It is what it is. We want hot chicks. Personality is icing on the cake. (And by the way hot is relative to the man). Why don’t any of the books mention this? Why for come NOBODY ever mentions this on talk shows? Why does nobody ever preach self-awareness? All these shows and books focus on busted women with great resumes (no disrespect) or banging women who have pickied themselves right into 35-dom without man or love. There is no self-awareness. If everybody would start there, the world might not end after BP figures out this Gulf Coast sh*t. Besides, most decent looking GOOD WOMEN that I know have a man.

4. We ain’t self-proclaimed experts

One more time for the cheap seats, we are observationists, often times with humor. We speak from the perspective of regular cats. We’re not famous comics who talk like they never left Cleveland. We don’t hang with Obama and star in bad movies (like for real) and have never stripped in gay clubs or rocked sarongs. We’re Phonte from Little Brother. Every man and we keep it gangsta.

Anyway, I had to just addres that tiny issue that ole boy brought up.

Oh and we don’t dress like bad pimps or 47-year old hipsters.

Thank you and good night.

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka VITAMIN P aka TANGLE JIG P aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL, HE A 3

269 thoughts on “Why VSB Isn’t Steve, Hill, Or Jimi and The Motherf*ckers Who Don’t Realize That”

  2. Lawd.

    I’d just like to put my disclaimer here, right up front:

    I, Liz, Co-Founder of VSB, lubbs Jimi Izrael with alla my heart. And if you turn to Page XII of your copy of ‘The Denzel Principle’ you will see my lovely name in the acknowledgments section. This means I shall never speak ill will of my beloved friend, nor do the statements of ridiculousness said on VSB represent my thoughts about said author and/or book.

    Carry on.

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  3. I’d like everyone to join me in a chorus of:
    “DDDDDDAAAAAAMMMMMMBBBBBBB!!!!!”

    Panama, you mad, huh? TELL EM WHY U MAD, SON!!! Ok lemme quit instigating. But u know u need that one person to rile everyone else up. Today, I’d like to be that person.

    Viva la VSB!!!!!

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      • Trick Daddy said it best, (edited of course) LOL

        “Anybody wanna m_____ die, come see me.
        Who me? Panama n(word). That’s right that’s motherfucking me n(word) (huh) And got damn it if I said it, I m_____ meant it
        If it was fully I m_____ spit it, F whoever I offended
        Hold on! Wait one m______ minute”

        P i certify you a 8 today! lol

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      • “With that said, I decided to break it down so that it can forever be broke.”

        Man, Panama. If I ever doubted you, I was wrong and I sincerely apologize. You definitely took it to the street. I bangs witchu. *Arsenio Hall woof

        woofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoof

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  6. (Panama then shouts, “SEXUAL CHOCOLATE,” drops the mic, and exits stage left.)

    Well said Panama!

    FIRST!

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  7. NOW…this is the 3 that we all know and love. :-) If they didn’t get the point last week, they should most definitely have it ingrained in their minds now. Who else want it with ya’ll VSB kats? Step Into The Arena. *snickers*

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      • Where’s my card?………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….BAM! lol

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  9. ok, Peej, one thing im a little unclear on…. that is…. how you REALLY feel?!?

    one. mo. gin. from the top. aaaaaaaand GO!

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  10. Mychal Denzel Smith’s post lumping you in with Jimi, Steve, and Hill was pure link bait. And it worked!

    Here is the crux of Smith’s argument:

    “It becomes problematic when he says most men think the way he does.”

    And here:

    “What these men are putting forth are very specific guidelines to be attractive to very specific black men: themselves.”

    For example, this line you wrote would drive Smith crazy:

    “Fact is, men are shallow. For better or worse. It is what it is.”

    Makes me a little crazy too. My fiancé is an incredible woman, but it took a good year for her to stop lumping me in with what she knows or heard (or read!) about “all guys”.

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    • @Hashim, Mychal Denzel Smith’s post lumping you in with Jimi, Steve, and Hill was pure link bait. And it worked!

      it didn’t completely work. I didn’t link to the post or say his name. lol. in fact, i’m not even sure who this cat you’re talking about is. lol. i was talking about the OTHER cat from 125th street that played ball in the park.

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      • i was talking about the OTHER cat from 125th street that played ball in the park.

        Like that other Michelle, uh? :lol:

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  11. YAAAAYYY! PJ the Gangstaaaa. lmbo.

    man. i reeeeeallly wanted SOMEBODY to put this out into the atmosphere. you have no idea how much that irked me to read that nonsense on twitter and that ridiculous blog. this just made my soul glow. lol.

    “We’re not famous comics who talk like they never left Cleveland.”

    *dead*

    who woulda thunk Champ and all his deez was the nice one? i didn’t. lol.

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    • Pfft. Champ is BY FAR the NICE one. Which is strange cuz Champ stay workin my nerves but I can’t pick a fight with P to save my life.

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      • LOL it seems Champ is a professional nerve worker.

        but i always imagine saying hi to Champ and him being like “hi deez” and walking away. at least PJ would offer a lyric or movie line or something. lol

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        • @PBG, why i got to be prickly. you could have called me sexxy or resolved. or even perhaps stately. but prickly? now i’m a cactus????

          at least you called me handsome. lol

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          • @Liz and Panama

            so i just finished listening to that podcast.

            can i just say how that whole section on ‘would you date a handicapped woman’ kilt me? thanks.

            i don’t know how you do it Liz. kudos. lol

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      • LOL yes, a-glowing and a-shining, i am.

        i know i need to take a vsb break when i start taking ish personally. lol. like, i was ready to go to the mattresses too. ugh.

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        • @Muze – yeah, i used to stay in the mattresses. but one day i picked up a daffodil and it changed my life. now i got more peace than 12 buddhists in a cotton factory.

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  12. If only this had rhymed and been set to music. I would have like to use the beat Gucci Mane used in “What Kind of King”, his T.I diss. What is the name of homie who lazily instigated this brouhaha? I have already forgotten.

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      • Take Over would have been the too obvious choice. The T.I vs. Gucci Mane beef was an obvious attempt by Gucci to use an established name to raise his profile. I think it is more analogous to this situation.

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    • but that diss was funny as ish! LOL!

      That line, “what kinda king wear tight leather pants..” LOL! We was dying in the barbershop…crazy…

      Bond.

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  13. I know I’m fittin’ta lose my invite to the VSB barbeque…

    So I’ll just marinate on this and try to articulate a response later because I do think that Denzel Jackson Johnson guy had a valid point or two. But ya’ll definitely do NOT deserve to be associated with Jimi Izrael.

    Can’t we all just get along???

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    • @meka – I never said he didn’t have a valid point. however, he also mistakenly lumped us in with the very people we disagree with in general. and then on our own site he commented like he should have been clearer about that but turned right around and accused us of doing the same things they do. yeah, no. thing is…i have a problem with folks whose SOLE beef is that people don’t say “some” as opposed to saying, “men”. you know what i mean, folks are okay if you say, “some men”

      come on. we’re old enough to read between the lines. however, that aint my battle. i just didnt want to get lumped in with hill harper. i’m taller tha him.

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      • “i have a problem with folks whose SOLE beef is that people don’t say “some” as opposed to saying, “men”. you know what i mean, folks are okay if you say, “some men” ”

        Ditto.

        I mean, having to write “Disclaimer: Due to a thorough scientific research poll conducted by me, my brother, and his 85 uncles, the following article only pertains to 376, 932.58 men” will totally eff up your post count.

        And you need such disclaimers, you also need someone to hold your hand while crossing the street.

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  14. 1) I like Steve Harvey but I refuse to read his book. What do I look like taking relationship advice from a man who’s on his 3rd marriage?! WhereDeyDoDatAt??

    2) I read and enjoyed Hill Harper’s “The Conversation” (even if it did have a pretentious air to it). However, I don’t foresee myself making any life changes because of it.

    3) Who the heck is Jimi Izrael…I’m being serious??

    Sidebar-Wow, Panama I like this angry side of you! I’m over here fanning myself **swoon**

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    • “1) I like Steve Harvey but I refuse to read his book. What do I look like taking relationship advice from a man who’s on his 3rd marriage?! WhereDeyDoDatAt??”

      CHURCH!!!

      and wasn’t his present wife his ’2nd-marriage-mistress’?
      SMDH

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      • @Cheekie If you weren’t my e-BFF I’d kick you for almost making me choke! I should never read your comments while eating or drinking.

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      • “3) Who the heck is Jimi Izrael…I’m being serious??”

        A smedium shirt activist.
        ********************************************************
        Awww crap….I made the smart decision of googling “smedium shirt” while takin’ a sip….great. =/

        Anyways, are gay men allowed to submit commentary about women and relationship?

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    • I got Steve’s book as a gift last year and I made it through 2/3 of it poolside today before I threw up in my mouth. It is full of B.S. Why can’t he do like other established comedian’s and write a lame book full of bits and pieces from his stand-up routine?

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      • @sweetbee, he wrote a book called The Denzel Principle. just google that and you’ll find clips of him on some panel with Hill, and Steve rocking a shirt that didn’t do anything to anybody!

        he’s also Liz’s BFF, replacing me since she threw me under the bus. lol.

        We ride together. We die together. Bad Boys for life. Except Liz. LOL It’s just me and The Champ. SEE IF WE COME TO CUBA TO SAVE YOU LIZ!!!

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        • LOLOLOL! I’m just sayin. I have been Jimi’s friend before his book and this site existed, and I’d like to stay that way.

          And no I didn’t throw you under the bus, fool.

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    • “I read and enjoyed Hill Harper’s “The Conversation” (even if it did have a pretentious air to it). ”

      Really? I didn’t even get half way through before I was like…you know what Hill? Eff you dawg!

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    • Hated Steve Harvey’s book, but the same fact is that for the people (male and female) who did not grow up with a man around consistently to teach them, that book was necessary. I hated the book because it was common sense *to me* but that’s because my father was in my life and pretty much summed up men in one sentence “A man will show you his cards every time.” Yep, that one measly sentence is the reason why Steve’s book was so irritating to me. Most, if not all, of it was self explanatory if only women would LOOK and SEE what is in front of them. But, I need to digress…

      Hate Hill Harper…nuff said!

      And yeah, that other dude…who is he?

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    • I know right!
      (my 2nd time chiming in for his usage of such roughness of an undertone today)

      Sound like “that dude” that be like “Woman, you better show me some love right this minute!”

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  15. HEY !! WAIT FOR ME ALL!!

    i’m supposed to stand for my Karate black belt early next year so i’ma need the practice!!!

    yes sir!!

    *throws some kicks and punches in the air*

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  16. gulp
    I’m scared of you, Panny. *dap*
    By the way, most decent looking good women I know are single. Whatchu got to say about that? huh? oh and define “good”, bruh.

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    • p.s.- you can thank me later for prompting a good debate. i couldn’t let today be an endless thread of bravos and clapping.

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    • lol @ panny. thats a good one!! we can call him “panny panderer”

      and thanks for shouting out the decent good looking single sistas!! whoop whoop here im iz!! *accepting applications for a new e-boo*

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    • @Miss patterson, By the way, most decent looking good women I know are single. Whatchu got to say about that? huh? oh and define “good”, bruh.

      what i have to say about that is that I’ve seen the pics of Pittsburgh events and parties. if i were a chick up there i’d just get a masters degree or a phd and move to some city like NY or DC. basically, blame pittsburgh.

      um, shots fired?

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      • no you didn’t talk about MY CITY. *takes rings and earrings off*
        we can take it outside, Panny!
        I’ll have you know, Pittsburgh has some of the finest…
        (psst…Gemmie help me out)

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        • ummmm am i allowed to help out if, after i am a certified phd, i hop on the first thing smokin (to DC)???? if so IM ALL IN!!

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  18. @Luvvie– “Can’t we all just get along???” No. Not at all. That’ll be boring.

    Stop instigating! Lol!

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  19. Dayum I hate that you are not a panty panderer. Panama the panty panderer is probably even better than girl he’s a three.
    Second. F!ck dude. He took shots to get hits on his wack *ss site that post had the most hits and comments of any other. I started to comment
    But figured it was counterproductive.
    Last I do want to point out is many of the women experiencing this problem singledom
    Are attractive. They are on paper “good” catches. Attractive, intelligent, successful
    So that’s why that isn’t an issue that’s discussed. I guess they assume unattractive chics
    Know the reason. But I digress.
    But yeah. You were slick a lil heated when you wrote this..how many “muthaf!ckas” did you have to edit out?lol

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  20. I wouldn’t be surprise if there is another post on TiWB calling out VSB for their……”black men excuses for a lack of maturity and growth toward our ladies”

    At least the good news is by making posts bout previous VSB’s posts you can become e-famous overnight, i guess

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      • Liz, please tell me your kidding.

        Wait let me guess…..this time its a new blogger talking about the same thing…but its a link to a Pan’s post.

        Great, last thing I want to see bloggers trying to put other bloggers on the spot.

        Like chilling in a lunchroom wit someone who lik to spread greek gossip all day :-(

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        • It’s written by someone else and admittedly less dbaggy. Still, as someone said above, stop trying to throw rocks at the throne. Most times VSB keeps to itself with respect to stuff like this (P and the Champ can’t be bothered with e-beef or reading lots of meaningless blogs), but P will definitely knuck if you buck lol.

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          • @ Liz “knuck if you buck”…REALLY?! Girl you are a mess! Between this and what I heard of the latest podcast I’m officially claiming you as my “friend in my head”. I owe you a martini the next time you’re in the DMV.

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      • This kid really needs to find somethng else to do with his free time.
        I hate that I gave him the traffic to read that crap.
        I’m going to take his advice and ignore him.
        Hopefully he will go away.

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  21. HOW DID I MISS out on the controversy! oh my. also panama WELL SAID! that’s all i have to say right now. bed time for me. will return tomorrow

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    • @tnt_ftw, i have no clue how you missed out on it. shoot, for a minute there, I thought I had written the post considering how much folks were going hard on Champ. lol.

      made me proud. i shed a tear.

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  22. @Cheekie– “3) Who the heck is Jimi Izrael…I’m being serious??” A smedium shirt activist.

    How did I know you were gonna talk about the smedium shirt?? Lol! What bothers you more–the smedium shirt or his misoginy? Lol!

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    • “How did I know you were gonna talk about the smedium shirt?? Lol! What bothers you more–the smedium shirt or his misoginy? Lol!”

      lol, they are one and the same. I hate both equally.

      The misogyny begats the smedium shirt.

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    • I wore a smedium shirt once, and have never really forgave myself for doing it. It was a gift, and I wore it out with the young lady who bought it for me. I was so off my game during that date, that someone was able to pop my collar up without me noticing. I only noticed that my collar was turned up when I went to the mirror when I got home to chant “nom keyo reh keyo” to amp myself up and shake of the night’s shame.

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      • @Dash – I’m mad the smedium shirt threw your entire game off. i dont know why women would buy those shirts for men when they’d openly call most cats with them on suspect gay dudes.

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        • It was a neon green Polo shirt. You could see the blood pumping in my veins it was so tight. It may have cut off circulation to my brain. That coupled with the realization that for a wrinkle in time I may have been whipped was enough to ruin my night.

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  23. I feel some type of way that I missed the bruhaha and thus have no idea what ya’ll are talking about…and I follow all ya’ll on Twitter. WTH?

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  24. The article by dude was a classic case of throwin’ rocks at the thrown (by the way, he only deserved half-a-bar). *starting chant* “V-S-B…they run this blog shyt…”

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  25. This article is one of the main reason I love this site. Y’all keep it real and tell it like it is. I love it!

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    • @Passion – you know why that is? b/c we have passion. lol

      DOUBLE ENTENDRE!

      If Jay-Z can insanely refer to anythign he’s done as having a triple entendre on Drake’s “Light Up” (when it doesnt) then I can erroneously label something as double entendre. i think i will do this frequently. QUADRUPLE ENTENDRE.

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  26. This post is fiya. Light ‘em up and torch ‘em babe.
    Get all Godfather on his little sorry behind.
    He don’t know who they messin with.
    Fool gon’ wake up with a horse head in his little twin sized bed.

    p.s. Leave Cleveland alone. We are still smarting from that beat down Rajon administered a few weeks ago.

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      • Rivers in industrial cities across the country caught fire all the time back in the late 19th and early 20th century. That fire birthed the environmental movement, the EPA, the clean water and air acts, Earth Day. Shoot, without that blaze, our waterways would be as bad as the one in Springfield, three eyed fish and all.

        You are all Welcome.

        Signed
        Cleveland, Ohio, USA.

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  28. @Panama Jackson–@meka – I never said he didn’t have a valid point. however, he also mistakenly lumped us in with the very people we disagree with in general. and then on our own site he commented like he should have been clearer about that but turned right around and accused us of doing the same things they do. yeah, no. thing is…i have a problem with folks whose SOLE beef is that people don’t say “some” as opposed to saying, “men”. you know what i mean, folks are okay if you say, “some men”

    I totally agree with this point.

    So I’m still invited to the barbeque, right? Right?

    Dayummmm…

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  30. “break it down so that it can forever be broke.”
    i LOVE the Love Jones reference…. beauty. on. ice..
    anyway.. this is pure g*yness and f*ggotry (my phrase, but you get the point..)
    i’m just wondering how long it’s gonna last.. because honestly, i don’t see homeboy alright with getting “e-punked” all over these webs that are worldwide!
    but honestly, it’s almost like “in da club” 50 cent vs. the 50 cent that was all emaciated in them pics last week..
    you gotta be careful about the battles you pick.. AND the opponent you choose to f*cks with…
    but i just got a little hot and bothered over Panama’s writing right there.. i gotz enough e-crushes.. i can’t afford no more..
    oooh weee!

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  32. From the title on forth, this slayed me. Love it!

    *in my best Method Man* Get em’!!!!! (How High)

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    • @legitimate soul,

      Get em’!!!!! <—- for me, this totally remixed into "Whup Dat Trick" (git em!)

      How apropos…considering today's smackdown. Loved-ed-it. Therefore, I reject all future rebuttals to this post, so I shall say no more. The "ova brotha" has been given enough limelight.

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  33. TJO!!!! okay, sweetie – next time don’t hold back…. tell us how you REALLY feel, heh heh heh. didn’t realise the post caused such a furore – don’t worry about those ingraits. useless buggers, trying to get an audience off of your sweat. Nx!

    in more interesting news IT’S MY BEF’DEEEE!! WHOSE BEF’DE??? MY BEF’DEEE!!! happy birthday to me!

    *twirls, leaps into the air, executes a flawless heel click, and walks out of room*

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  36. I’ve only been in VSBland for a couple of months but I must say that I like it here. Keep doing what ya’ll do! Everybody’s not going to like everything you say and that’s how it should be. I like VSB’s honesty b/c sugarcoated bullsh!t is just bullsh!t coated in sugar. If I want somebody to only say things that make me feel better I’ll go talk to my mama LMAO. I come here b/c ya’ll keep it real, whether I agree all of the time or not.

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    • @BSQUARED86, If I want somebody to only say things that make me feel better I’ll go talk to my mama LMAO

      or you can go over to dude’s site that wrote that post that was about that post we wrote

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  37. As someone who just discovered Blogspot WordPress last week, I can’t say I’m mad at him for dogging you for link bait. (Confession: I tweeted Kat Stacks for re-tweet bait. Yes, my marketing team (me) is really that bootleg)

    I’d write more, but I’m distracted by Kobe’s paisley lined hoodie (in Chris Browm bow tie blue) on SportsCenter. Someone on his team hates him

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    • @I Am Your People, ya know, maybe he did use us as link bait since those other 3 cats aren’t as “touchable” if that makes sense.

      i will say this, i’m glad we did help another brotha make his way into the game. i just wish i could remember his name. lol

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  39. *Tilting hat & acknowledging Panama’s e-gangsta*

    “he’s been awesome ever since and owns a variety of t-shirts.”

    MDS (who will be called “He” from this point) almost made me give up both awesomeness and t-shirts with that line.

    As a single – A minor league blogger I realized that you have to have your own voice and “He” doesn’t have one. For all of his underhanded, nice-nasty (shout out to my Moms for putting nice-nasty back into my vocab on Sunday.) shots at Champ, Panama, and Liz his writing style comes of as blend of both of the writers at VSB which is more hoe shit Lois. “He” should settle down, find his own style, and adjusy his skirt.

    Back to important sh*t.
    “Personality is icing on the cake. (And by the way hot is relative to the man)”

    My post burfday haze may be clouding my memory and I can remember (no Regan) if y’all have done one, but a post about Hotness and the relativity would be a great read.

    *pouring kerosine on my pile of t-shirts, lighting match*

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    • @Wu Young, My post burfday haze may be clouding my memory and I can remember (no Regan) if y’all have done one, but a post about Hotness and the relativity would be a great read.

      shucks i dont even remember if we’ve done a post about that.

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      • “shucks i dont even remember if we’ve done a post about that.”

        I don’t think so either. I remember there one being about hotness relatively between men and women (I’m still pissed I wasn’t here to partake in that convo…effing plantation), but not between men.

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  40. I never woulda seen ole boy’s post if one of ya’ll didn’t mention it last week. But yeah, he was buggin’ when he lumped any one of ya’ll in with Jimi-smedium-shirt-wearing-woman-haters-club-president-izreal. I’m not a fan of steve-i’m-a-loud-n-proud-thrice-married-christian-but-its-okay-to-have-sex-after-90-days-Harvey’s relationship advice, but at least he APPEARS to be trying to be helpful. I swoon for Hill Harper, so…. yeah.

    Oh yeah, thanks for the Marlo Stanfield quote.

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  41. *You tell em PJ, I love it when you smart dudes take your gangsta out for special occasions, love y’all, you & Champikins, tell those wannabes (no school daze) that they can kiss your a$$es in Macys window*carry on

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      • @bajanflchick, i’m not a gangsta. i was dancing yesterday. and yoiu know that gangstas dont dance, they boogie.

        This just made me laugh out loud….

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  42. Love the post… I have a strong distaste for all the characters they grouped you with, the hill Harper book made me gag and every time I see all those ninjas on tv I want to reach through and smack them.
    The first time I saw Jimi I was like why the EFF they let this suspect dude talk about relationships
    And I think good looking females have a misconception about this whole thing… the ugly girls aren’t the ones with the good men it’s the above average looking chick with the good personality, cause the Superbad chick is too much drama… the ugly ones still get the side eye all around

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    • “the ugly girls aren’t the ones with the good men it’s the above average looking chick with the good personality, cause the Superbad chick is too much drama… the ugly ones still get the side eye all around”

      this made me laugh. lol. thanks.

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    • “the ugly girls aren’t the ones with the good men it’s the above average looking chick with the good personality”

      Finding one of these girls single is like finding a Cabbage Patch Kid is Kiddie City on Christmas Eve in 1983 – not happening.

      These are the conssumate B to B+/low A- girls. I actually get super excited when I meet one of these girls and things look positive. Dimes are either ignoring me outright, or nixing me after a date or two, and I’m not attracted enough (to put in the amount of work I’d need to put in in order to get basic results) to the girls below this level.

      But these girls are the perfect Venn Diagram intersection of what I like and what I can typically pull. But that’s the problem – they’re in alot of other guys’ intresections, too. So they’re perpetually taken.

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  43. Hey everyone, go read my blog where I in devastating detail, once again destroy VSB*. It is the greatest take down of two people you will ever see and given that I have spent significant time here, lived in both Pittsburgh and DC, I’m uniquely qualified to take VSB down 3 pegs. That’s right! Three whole pegs (don’t ask me how many pegs up they were before that though).

    *I haven’t actually written that post yet but if I get enough visitors, maybe I’ll consider it.

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  44. please hold for applause (pause). again dammit y’all. again!! lol.
    that was wonderfantabulous!
    3 finger snaps and a twist!
    and in the words of biggie..and if you don’t know know..now you know..NINJA!! :D

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  45. Damn I see I missed the happenings, but oh well LOL

    I agree P, you all are nothing like these black pseudo relationship experts that have seeemingly popped up like and sprouted like weeds in the last six months all over the landscape . very tired of that conversation period btw.

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    • @Orange Star Happy Hunting, thanks.

      now that you’ve had the Janelle Monae for a while, what are you sober thoughts on it? (sober thoughts = not the thoughts once hopped on the euphoria of finally getting a project you wanted to hear)

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      • P, my very smart brethren, I have to say, my sober gemini thoughts are, (and I have been listening to it everyday since the 18th LLS, and I went to see her again last Friday with Ms.Badu, representing LOL) that sh*t is WOW times Whoa = the square root of Dope, like I said over @ StuffFlyPeopleLike…….the only song I don’t care for is track 14, it is indeed an emotion picture for the mind, heart, and spirit, brilliantly executed. The lushness of the accompanying orchestra is just gorgeous P, the concepts and lyrics are at once inspired, endearing, highly imaginative, intelligent, empathetic, humorous, enchanting, romantic, and spellbinding. She did that sh*t, in other words!!!!

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  47. Panama – You had to get it off your chest. I get that. It sucks when folks smear your name or make statements that misrepresent you. But those that have the ability to read and comprehend can simply check read the archives to get that you and The Champ are nothing like those dudes… woooosaaaaaaahhhhh ;-)

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  48. Loved the post! However, in reference to #3, Patti Stanger (Millionaire Matchmaker) does exactly this in her book and on her show. She tells women what they need to do physically b/c a man has to be attracted to you before he can know how great a person you are.

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    • To me thats common sense if you know ANYTHING about men
      (BTW, some women are like that too, like moi, LOL if I am not physically attracted then there is NO dice, I used to try to work around things like luke warm attractions, not anymore)

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      • Luke warm attractions only turn into boiling froths if there’s ALOT of casual interaction over a period of time. Co-workers, people that you see alot in the neighbrohood, members of the extended crew that you’re always around. But just a straight-up meet-holler–talk-go on a few dates type of unfolding? The lukewarm attraction has no avenue, nor enough time, to turn into anything else under that setup.

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        • maybe for you LOL but for me, luke warm attractions turn a “yucky” cold, kinda like when hot coffee turns cold.. so lukewarm attrcations really aren’t attractions at all to em, I like mine piping hot, all kinds of pun intended!

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    • @Pretty Cute, i just wonder why most men dont tell this to women upfront. or have those convos. its like men dont want to admit to being that shallow and women dont want to believe we’re that shallow.

      then again, a lot of men just act shallow anyway. i think a lot of man/woman issues would be fixed if women would let us be who we say we are. lol. we aint lying to you. we suck at times. um, boomerang.

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      • i think a lot of man/woman issues would be fixed if women would let us be who we say we are.

        this is what irritates me about SOME men– they expect women to change for them. yet they, themselves, refuse to change. and thats some BS.

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        • @Gem, i should probably change what i said to: if women who believe us when we said who we were. many women always follow the, “i’m sure he can change that or i can get him to change” model of dating.

          but yes, when two folks dont grow, they shrink.

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  49. P, my hat is off to you, gangsta for keeping it real about what you guys stand for and for letting ol dude know that he should keep y’all’s name out his mouth. That’s why I love this blog and the people who comment on it. Y’all are like my potnas that I can kick back with beer and vodka shots and shoot the sh*t. I would say more but I am on a plane in the Chi (*waves to Cheekie and other VSB Chi-town peeps*) going to Hartford and I got to turn the blackberry off. It’s gonna be a long week. Keep up the good work, all three of you.

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    • “I would say more but I am on a plane in the Chi (*waves to Cheekie and other VSB Chi-town peeps*)”

      *pouts that you didn’t let me get some of that unicorn-ness in close proximity*

      Have a safe flight, CBG, darlin’! :)

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      • @Cheekie,

        Thanks, Cheekie. I made to the Eastern time zone in one piece. It was foggy as hell the Chi today. My flights in and out of Chicago were late. Unicorn-ness. You’re funny.

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        • Yeah, it WAS hella foggy. Not one of our best summer days. Yeah, I know it ain’t officially summer, but lots of folks consider post-Memorial Day summer.

          Anyhow, glad you’re in one piece. Wouldn’t want the resident VSB knight in shining armour to be in more than one piece unless it was a clone of full 100% pieces. Not partly-pieces.

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    • Forget Hartford, when is your job going to send you to the DMV?? In the meantime, travel safely :)

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      • @MsEsquire77,

        I will probably be in the DMV before I know it. In fact I got a layover in B-more on my way back to Texas but I may have to keep a low profile, though. I got to watch out for women 5′ and under with blow darts in their purses trying to kidnap me. :) Loves the Cheetara avatar.

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        • Yes!! You think I’m playing but we really should get together (at least for a drink) when you’re here for longer than a layover. I promise not to make you do anything against your will and I’ll even leave my unicorn-catching apparatus at home ;) Are you on Twitter? If so, follow me and we can exchange info.

          Thanks for appreciating the avatar…I LOVED The Thundercats when I was a kid! My brother and I were addicted to them along with G.I Joe and He-Man (including the live-action movie).

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      • @Nick_L_Odeon,

        Tell me why they were searching my shoes this morning. My shoes. The same shoes I wore last time I was in an airport. I can’t call it.

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      • @Nick_L_Odeon,

        Tell me why they were searching my shoes this morning. My shoes. What the hell? I can’t call it.

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  50. i have no idea what triggered this post, but since i ride with VSB, you know which team i’m playing for.

    i went to the taping of “Why Can’t a Successful Black Woman Find a Man” in Atlanta last month, in which Jimi Izrael was on the panel. i had the pleasure of watching him make a complete fool of himself. thus, i am not surpised he said something stupid (again).

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    • @Carver, preciate it folk’. btw, i’m listening to your mixes right now on your site. lol

      the song whats up with your p****. LMAO. the worst thing is these dudes aint bad rappers, they bad at thought.

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  51. Panama – I’m making googly eyes at you.

    For the love jones reference alone, you rock!!!

    And for all the haters, Kick Rocks!!!

    And, er, um, obviously, I am have a whole “rock” them going on today and sht….

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  53. Wow. Just wow. I’m glad you came back with this post. I thought dude was weak as all h3ll with his post when I read it. And some of the people commenting on his writing seemed like those pseudo-intellectuals who take everything to some ol BS level it doesn’t need to get to. VSB has a reader for life (or as long as y’all keep posting).

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  54. basically, what it comes down to is that some people just suck at reading. there are a ton of derek zoolander ass n*ggas and n*ggattes infesting the internet with hysterical reactions to half-assed assumptions, people who (as someone pointed out last week) are literally nipping at the bud for something or someone new to be “outraged” about. luckily, we (vsb) have been able to attract and retain those who think a bit more critically and a bit less bitchasstically, and i’m very grateful for that.

    ironically, i actually agreed with the premise of the mychal kid’s article. but, using vsb as your main example is like structuring a piece about the ills of dopeboy rap around b.o.b.; the uninformed will praise and promote while the very smart brothas and sistas will wonder what the f*ck you’re talking about

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    • “the uninformed will praise and promote while the very smart brothas and sistas will wonder what the f*ck you’re talking about”

      pretty muuuch

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    • I thought the dude didn’t read the piece. I thought he jumped on a bandwagon created by a couple people who didn’t agree and/or took it the wrong way, and decided to use that as his springboard to getting a few follows from some muumuu wearing afrocentricities hell bent on saying everything is wrong.

      it’s funny, cuz i follow one of the main dudes you were going back and forth with, Champ, and I think he just didn’t read the post the way you intended. Which happens quite often, it seems.

      Just yesterday I said “What the F does “Capricious” mean and how can I get it changed right the F now?” or something to that effect. Went over heads. Dah well.

      I thought the post was well written, even if I love my girl cuz she’s friggin hilarious. But there is a difference between funny jokes and funny mean shiesse.

      I also steer clear of women who are the dopest roasters in the room consistently. Sometimes those aren’t nice people, no matter the level of funny.

      Whatever. It comes with the territory. PrezzO said something about Michelle telling him “You signed up for this”… So yeah.

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      • “Muumuu wearing afrocentricities hell bent on saying everything is wrong.”

        LOL, though I do know some chicks who can pull off the muumuu, but you hit the nail on the head with his lonely, angry, blame shifting target demo.

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    • basically, what it comes down to is that some people just suck at reading. there are a ton of derek zoolander ass n*ggas and n*ggattes infesting the internet with hysterical reactions to half-assed assumptions,

      yessss!! and its so sad. thats why VSB should open “The Derek Zoolander VSB School for Angry Black People Who Can’t Read Good and Want to Do Other Stuff Good Too”

      we (vsb) have been able to attract and retain those who think a bit more critically and a bit less bitchasstically, and i’m very grateful for that.

      yes, VSB has. and, you’re welcome.

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    • “basically, what it comes down to is that some people just suck at reading. there are a ton of derek zoolander ass n*ggas and n*ggattes infesting the internet with hysterical reactions to half-assed assumptions, people who (as someone pointed out last week) are literally nipping at the bud for something or someone new to be “outraged” about.”

      To those who thought Champ was the nice one, refer to the above. You’re welcome. Snap, crackle AND pop.

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  56. Very well said. I feel sorry for women who actually take relationship advice from Steve or Hill. I see young women with Steve’s book and I just shake my head. I don’t even know who that other guy is but he can kick rocks as well.

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  57. I thought everyone owned that one “emergency” smedium undershirt that you keep on reserve when your laundry is getting to Critically Low levels. It’s ususally smedium because it shrank somehow, or you’ve had it since 10th grade – one or the other.

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  58. Great Post Panama!!
    I’m glad you set the record straight and made things clearer for folks who have impaired reading comprehension.

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  59. Sexxy post as always, Panama. I saw some rumblings about Champ’s post on twitter, but I ignored it since the tweets came from the same women who are always upset about something. Anywho, good post PJ!

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    • @N.I.A. naturally, but I ignored it since the tweets came from the same women who are always upset about something.

      that kilt me dead right there. lol. cuz its so true.

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  61. When I read this, the whole time I was hearing the “Takeover” instrumental playing in my head.

    It must be ‘vent’ week for ni**as blogging…I digress.

    Back to the business…

    *Champ, I haven’t forgotten, just haven’t had the time to write my side of that NBA argument*

    Bond.

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  62. Just brush off the haters Champ and PJ. I read that dude’s blog and first of all, he has nowhere near the level of intelligence, wit and creativeness of you two… and second of all, sh*t was wack son. The end.

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  63. Is it just me or is it hard to listen to anything he says bc of his mustache? Was it that distracting on the Kings of Comedy?

    Oh and got the movie reference. You’ve Got Mail. Love that movie.
    (jkaying, jkaying)

    I’m glad you made this clear. I now understand why I read your blogs and have not read Steve Harvey’s book.

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  64. Panama pretty much laid ether out for the rest of the bloggers in the world who know absolutely nothing of what they speak. Side eyes galore for the people who find solace in knowing pieces of a story instead of the full truth.

    I could go in full detail but then I’d be walking up on a dead horse and slapping its wig off ala them two random goons who decided to document defending the name of the honorable John “I can’t spell fabulous coorectly” Jackson.

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  65. Dang what did I miss???…I leave the country for 8 days and I come back and folks all mad and stuff…now I need another two days vacation to catch up on VSB and everything else in my life….

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  66. Thanks Panama! The four bullet points hit it right on the nail. These men are screwing women up even more who don’t know any better. I battle with men all the time about this issue. Finally!

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