Pop Culture, Theory & Essay

Why Nas’ “Daughters” Is 100% Right And 100% Wrong At The Same Time

Full disclosure: I’m a “Nas guy.” 

What this basically means is that even though I recognize the fact that Jay-Z has had a (much) better career, better albums, and generally seems like he’d be a better person to be around, I’m more of a fan of what Nas represents. Now, what the hell does Nas represent? I have no f*cking clue. But, whatever it is that he represents, I’m more of a fan of that than I am of what Jay-Z “represents.”

If this makes no sense to you, good. It makes no sense to me either, but it helps explain why I still feel in my heart that “Ether” was a better song than “Takeover” even though I know in my brain that “Takeover” was better.

I’m bringing this up because, “Daughters” — Nas’ recent ode to fatherhood and raising a daughter — is not a good song, and it truly pains me to admit this. It’s pandering, saccharin, cringe-worthy, awkward, and just overall freaking annoying. Yes. Annoying. This is an annoying song. This song annoys me.

Thing is, although this song annoys the hell out of me, I appreciate it. I appreciate what Nas was attempting to do here. I appreciate his effort. This — the effort — is probably what it is about what Nas “represents” that connects with me in a way that doesn’t with Jay-Z. Basically, Jigga’s a chess player, a person who doesn’t seem to do or say anything without processing the dozen or so moves that will come afterwards. While this has definitely helped him craft the best career any rapper has ever had and become a true “business, man,” there’s a certain tinge of inauthenticity that permeates much of what he says and does. Jay-Z may in fact be a “realer” person than Nas, but Nas’ penchant for artistic implusivity makes him feel realer.

And, despite the fact that it’s pandering, saccharin, cringe-worthy, awkward, and f*cking annoying, “Daughters” is a real song. It seems to come from a man genuinely concerned about the type of example he’s set for his child, and genuinely concerned about his daughter’s well-being.

Now, you can make the argument that this concern may be self-serving. Perhaps he cares so much because he’s aware of how a daughter’s (mis)behavior reflects on the father, and he wishes to spare himself the embarrassment of hearing rumors that his daughter is becoming the type of woman attracted to men who treat women the way he has. Even if this is true, though, this feeling comes from a genuine place, a real place, and it’s understandable and laudable.

Nas’ implusivity gives him huge blind spots though, and none are bigger than the fact that “Daughters” — a song Nas made to protect his daughter and profess his love for her — shits on his own daughter!  He leads both of the song’s first two verses with information putting his daughter’s business and, ultimately, her reputation on full blast.

From verse two:

This morning I got a call, nearly split my wig
This social network said “Nas go and get ya kid”
She’s on Twitter, I know she ain’t gon post no pic
Of herself underdressed, no inappropriate shit, right
Her mother cried when she answered
Said she don’t know what got inside this child’s mind, she planted
A box of condoms on her dresser then she Instagrammed it

Forget about cutting off your nose to spite your face, “Daughters” cuts off his face to spite his face. Mind you, his daughter isn’t a seven year old who won’t quite grasp what her dad is rapping about or a grown-ass 27 year old who could deal with it, but a 17 year old girl — a person at the age where something like this has the best chance of having a negative impact on her life. Oh, and how do I know she’s a 17 year old girl? He leads the video with her f*cking birthday!

I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised by the cognitive dissonance Nas’ exhibited when creating this song and the accompanying video. It’s typical Nas (shit, it’s typical “rapper”) and, with all this being said, I do definitely appreciate the idea, effort, and (presumed) intent behind “Daughters.” As far as “rappers rapping about their kids” goes, it’s not in the same league as “Retrospect for Life,” but I do think it has a bit of a chance to eventually become (slightly) less annoying with repeated listens.

But, while I forgave Nas for “Braveheart Party,” “Nastradamus,” and “You Owe Me,” I don’t know if I can forgive him doing the ultimate disservice — making me agree with Carmen Bryan. 

—Damon Young (aka “The Champ”)

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Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a contributing editor for EBONY.com. He resides in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes.

  • JAYmatic

    Ive gotta be honest though….I LOVE the song. I ran into this vid after watching the Celtics/Heat game just now. I feel like he’s spot on.

    • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

      C’mon! Be authentic! Urrrrgh!

      • JAYmatic

        huh?

        • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

          where are the dreadlocks?!

          • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

            Thats not me. LOL

            • whostolethesoul1

              i know, i was like wha?

              • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

                Theres also someone downthread posting as “Just Me” I was like…”…the f*ck?Why is JMTG all incognito today?”

                • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

                  hun, I KNOW—–>hence, the authentic memo! I was actually annoyed!

                  • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                    lol, jaymatic’s been around for a while. vsb nation is like 50,000 people (and screennames) deep

                    • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

                      Right. I guess some overlap is to be expected.

                    • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

                      @ The Champ

                      I get the 1 million plus Chinese style deepness you got going on, BUT still of alllllll the names to choose on earth!

                      @ JayMatic,don’t mind me oo. I’m known to be kray, around dis parts.

                    • JAYmatic

                      LOL…Im much more of a lurker than commenter these days, lol

            • JAYmatic

              LMAO

  • http://www.unstoppableassistants.com Anjela

    This article was annoying…

    but how did he shit on his own daughter by that verse you quoted? You don’t think her pic spread like wildfire when she posted it on twitter? It was already out there.. everyone knew who she was.

    • http://ponderingsofablackman.blogspot.com/ Miles Garvey

      Amen.

    • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

      @ Anjela,

      You do make a great, actually EPIC point, BUT why does he have to make a mountain hill out of the situation? As is, the situation is embarrassing enough. Or may be, I’m the only one seeing the embarrassment, matter of fact it is an abomination.

      • Thinker

        Ever heard of damage control ??? When you are a parent its your job to clean up after your kids.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “You don’t think her pic spread like wildfire when she posted it on twitter? It was already out there.. everyone knew who she was.”

      i think a few more people are going to hear this song and see this video than saw her pics on twitter. i mean, it’s literally my job to keep up with shit like this, and i didn’t hear about it until nas put it in the song

      • http://twitter.com/itztrizz617 Tristan

        I didnt hear bout it until Nas dropped the song either

        • demondog06

          i didn’t know about it until i read this blog…

          • JessicaL

            Lol, this!

          • Justmetheguy

            +1 Demondog

          • Chanelle

            lol me too…..I heard the song but i didn’t think he was for real and didn’t care enough to look it up! I also didn’t realize his daughter was this old.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      while it was already out there (i’m one of the ninjas who saw it an heard it all almost in real time on Twitter too), there is something about putting your family business out there for perpetuity. sh*t on twitter has a shelf life.

      i get why he made the song, i’m on the fence regarding how i feel about it. and i agree with you, he didnt throw her under the bus since, well she threw herself under the bus via social media. Nas is mostly just recounting what happened. but it does come off as more as a flash in the pan reaction to it than a well thought out song about being a man with a daughter. i understand both arguments.

      • MJoy

        When your daughter throws herself under the bus, you’re supposed to scrape her off the concrete, not put it in reverse.

        I like the song’s message I guess, woe is the man who gets the ultimate payback, but ease up on the kray kray specific details of your own damn daughter.

      • Boo Radley

        You know how you’d get in trouble when you were young, and take your punishment and talk it through with your parents and finally the worst was over…until your mom got on the phone rehashing the details with all her friends? Sucked, didn’t it? Well, that’s this song. Except these weren’t even friends, and this conversation happens in perpetuity.

        D-bag parental move, no question.

    • Ms Quita

      Yeah, alot of ppl were already talking about her BUT that is her FATHER. Much more humiliating, and hurtful coming from him.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/cnote220 Cheech

    As an older brother who looks after and raises my little siblings as well as an older cousin who looks after all of my younger cousins….I may not be a parent but I get it

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      i get it too. i think we all get it, really. i just don’t agree with the approach

      • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

        The approach seemed along the lines of “Maybe if I embarrass her in public, then she might clean up her act”. As we all know, that tactic has never worked.

        • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

          How is it “embarrassing” her in public if everything she did was public (on Twitter)?

          • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

            That’s why I said the embarrassment tactic never worked…

  • http://ponderingsofablackman.blogspot.com/ Miles Garvey

    Champ, while we’re all entitled to our opinions, I diametrically disagree with you regarding the song and Nas putting his daughter on blast. First of all, the song is good. Is it the best Nas song? No, but Nas has a ton of bangers in his catalog. I’d give this song a solid “B” grading. Second of all, all that Nas mentioned about his daughter was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE to those who follow the Black gossip blogs and websites. So, Nas’ daughter put herself on blast way before this song and video.

    For a man nowadays to even find fault in himself in his daughter’s actions speaks volumes for the type of mature man…not just a mature rapper that Nas is.

    • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

      You can find fault, or act mature or whatever without putting your daughter on blast, how embarrassing. I’m not condoning her actions, but as a father, handle it accordingly. Making a song is not the way!

      • JAYmatic

        It was already out there…thats how HE found out.

      • http://ponderingsofablackman.blogspot.com/ Miles Garvey

        What’s different than this Nas’ song and Maia Campbell’s late mother writing 72 Hour Hold? I don’t think much.

        • http://ponderingsofablackman.blogspot.com/ Miles Garvey

          My question was posed to African Mami and whomever else wants to weigh in.

          • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

            I am not aware of the Maia Campbell/mother situation. I feel that yes, she had this coming, I mean if it wasn’t Nas taking shots @ her behavior, someone else would have, BUT as a father, I feel that he should have addressed the issue privately. Not everything deserves a mic.

            • http://ponderingsofablackman.blogspot.com/ Miles Garvey

              Ok. I see your point. We disagree.

        • pe.riche.

          That’s an excellent point! And I read 72 Hour Hold, and it was not only a great read, but a profound look into the hardships of mental illness.

          I think celebrities get flack for sharing their personal business in cases such as this because they have a much larger audience to share their grievances with. If Nas wasn’t “Nas”, then he’d still vocalize his concern, but just on a much smaller and personal scale.

          • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

            @ pe. riche.

            *HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!*

            I say, BS on Nas being vocal on a smaller scale. Who would listen?! His brother, baby mamas, son, daughter and himself? An audience, gives you superman or rather superhuman powers, almost invincible.

            • J. B. Real

              By saying he would’ve expressed them in a smaller scale anyway, I believe they’re talking about an interview or whatever potential blog entry the media would post about his comment, which alone would spread like wildfire. Lo’ and behold, some bold interviewer would have eventually asked him about this incident, and he probably would’ve expressed his concerns there as well.

              I don’t think it’s really in anyone’s place or “business” to say “what’s right!” in accordance to someone’s parenting, for the fact being that they’re not that parent or a part of that family, and neither do they live in that household. You’re internet users just making blogs about someone else’s father, which would actually upset me as a daughter. To hear that an anonymous rager is saying “my father is shitting on me” would not make me feel any better. Thank you, but the second opinion isn’t needed, and that anger should only belong to me as that daughter, not you as the stranger of our lives or our possible relationship. That child is theirs, and so that issue is also theirs.

              At the end of the day, if Destiny felt that violated and pissed off at her father the way people who aren’t even his daughter feel, then I don’t feel like she would’ve agreed to even be in the video or let him pass that video through without a fuss. It leads me to believe they DID handle the situation privately, and that she ALLOWED him to use this content of her to help contribute to a bigger message because they’ve probably both gotten past it. If she’s posted a tweet complaining about how offensive her father is, then I just personally haven’t seen it yet…but I’m just going off “if”‘s here.

              All in all, as a father, continue to take care of your own daughter business and refrain from butting into everyone else’s. The time we waste complaining about their parenting skills is time lost with our own kids. And if we must complain, then let’s stop making remarks and actually take said parent to therapy to do something about it.

          • http://ponderingsofablackman.blogspot.com/ Miles Garvey

            Thank you, pe.riche! I agree with you.

          • http://www.twitter.com/Bmorebmw Tentpole

            ‘I think celebrities get flack for sharing their personal business in cases such as this because they have a much larger audience to share their grievances with.”
            And the other 50% is to make a dollar at the expense of their family.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          “What’s different than this Nas’ song and Maia Campbell’s late mother writing 72 Hour Hold? I don’t think much.”

          I haven’t read this, but was maia 17 years old when it was published?

          • Aly

            She was around that age, yes. Great book, by the way.

            • Aly

              I take that back. The character in the book was a teenager, but I don’t know how old her daughter was at the time.

          • http://www.twitter.com/Bmorebmw Tentpole

            Maia was @ 27 when the book was published in 2003

      • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

        Well, ten years ago Jon Voight put his daughter Angelina Jolie on blast- much worse than Nas ever did- and no one said a thing…

        • CNotes

          That’s because we (bl@ck folks) tend to be much more critical of our own. smh

          • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

            Only when we’re doing wrong- or not doing anything…

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          10 years ago Twitter and social media didn’t also give everybody with an opinion and outlet.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          “Well, ten years ago Jon Voight put his daughter Angelina Jolie on blast- much worse than Nas ever did- and no one said a thing…”

          who’s no one? that shit was everywhere. it was in freakin people magazine, lol

          • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

            Here’s the difference Champ. When Jon Voight went in on Angelina, the press was very silent about it. If anything, they joined in bashing her.

            • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

              I mean, they were very silent on his criticism towards her.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                I don’t remember exactly how voight’s words were received by the press, but there’s a difference between publicly criticizing a movie star in her late 20s and putting your teenage daughter’s business in the street

      • GypsyCurl

        ” I’m not condoning her actions, but as a father, handle it accordingly.”

        Right! Parenting shouldn’t be tit-for-tat. If the child is acting irresponsiblely, it is the parent’s job to be the rational one.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “First of all, the song is good. Is it the best Nas song? No, but Nas has a ton of bangers in his catalog. I’d give this song a solid “B” grading’

      i’ve softened on my opinion of the song. it still annoys me, but I don’t think it’s a bad song. just not a good one.

      • http://wildcougarconfessions.com Wild Cougar

        I think the post rambled and failed to make a coherent point. If I have to think hard to figure out what you’re trying to say, you didn’t write it well enough.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          lol, you’re 100% right and 100% wrong. admittedly, it did ramble quite a bit (and could have used an editor), but “a reader having to think hard to figure it out” doesn’t equal “not written well.” two completely different things.

          • http://wildcougarconfessions.com Wild Cougar

            Yeah, I could just be mentally challenged. LOL

          • A Woman’s Eyes

            Champ,

            Did you get enough sleep? Were you trying to write while the effects of the alcohol wore off?

            :-/

  • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

    I LOVE Nas, for the mere fact that he is FOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE, and he is a poet!—->errytime, I saw the name Jay-Z, I became blind.

    Onto the matter @ hand, oh miiiiiii gosh, my poooooor CELTICS! What the fuggers, they so under performed tonite which leads me to, Nas under performing in this song as a father.

    Instead of putting your daughter’s business in the front line, why don’t you take the time to TALK to her. This is some BULL! I do not agree with business that needs to be kept under wraps being blasted for all and sundry! He still, hella FOIIIIIINE, he could get from Monday to Saturday and keep the Sabbath day holy and sanctified, as a rightful passage of making it to heaven on time.

    • Thai

      “he could get from Monday to Saturday and keep the Sabbath day holy and sanctified, as a rightful passage of making it to heaven on time.”

      bwhahahaha…iCant. I do agree that there is a better way to speak to her without calling her out on her sh*t. le sigh. i wasnt motivated to hear the song and when i did it wasnt that bad but it def wasnt the best either.

      In conclusion…he wont be getting an award for this. And can we jus all agree that when ninjas wanna produce a song AFTER Jay-Z produced Glory featuring our prophet reincarnated…i mean his daughter Blue Ivy that it needs to be FIRE or just not be. at. all. Like is there a clause where rappers (obvi excluding Kanye) cannot outshine Jay. Or can they just not outshine him. Makes me go hmmmm…

      • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

        Hey girrrrrrl!!!! *waving KRAYzily*

        I don’t even know why Nas bothers to compete with that other one. He IS already on that level of untouchableness———>Jay STANS—–>go hump a bridge!

        “And can we jus all agree that when ninjas wanna produce a song AFTER Jay-Z produced Glory featuring our prophet reincarnated…i mean his daughter Blue Ivy that it needs to be FIRE or just not be”

        AGREED, to the infinite power of not looking back lest I turn into salt like Lot’s wife.

        • Thai

          bwhahahaha…your analogies. Im not a Jay stan either. (He got the right people and I can respect that). Nas been eatin at the table with the elders. He can jus do better i think…

          • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

            that’s the only thing that Jay will ever get from me without any kind of intentional shade, he is a BUSINESS MAN! that is actually hella friggin SEGGAZZZY.

    • AfroPetite

      Agreed. I understand the world knows what she did but sometimes I wonder if celebrities even know how to communicate with their own families without the aid of a studio or camera crew.

      • http://www.twitter.com/HumanSpiderACNJ The Human Spider

        I’m pretty sure they do, as cameras aren’t always on 24/7, but when they are off, it takes some time to get used to. *shrugs*

      • whostolethesoul1

        Exactly, while it’s certainly not my favorite, but it also gave us his perspective. It’s interesting to watch entertainers (used loosely), deal w/parenting issues in the public eye, from Lawrence Fishburne to Luke (yes, 2 LiveCrew).

    • MJoy

      I like his ridiculously out-dated part.

  • JK

    I feel the whole “If you embarrass me, I’ll SHOW you what embarrassment REALLY means” approach to parenting. Like the mother who made her daughter wear the “I’m a thief, keep yo shit away from me” t-shirt.

    • AfroPetite

      LOL

      Haven’t seen that one yet, social networking has become the best tool for the ultimate punishing of a child.

      • https://twitter.com/#!/Think2Inspire Think2Inspire

        Or the worst. People out here getting themselves into trouble for the punishment they put their children through. You want to spank your kids, cool. You turn on a camera and post it on facebook, twitter, or FB then you better be ready for what comes your way.

        • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

          Kinda like that judge named William Adams in Texas, huh?

    • GypsyCurl

      ““If you embarrass me, I’ll SHOW you what embarrassment REALLY means” approach to parenting. Like the mother who made her daughter wear the “I’m a thief, keep yo shit away from me” t-shirt.”

      If someone is reduced to embarrassing their children like this, they’ve already failed as a parent at this point.

      • shellshell00

        Whoa, failed as a parent? You fail to realize that they are children, they are their own person. No matter what you teach your child they will, as they come into their own, do things that parents might not agree with. Who do you know that was the PERFECT parent or child? They obviously aren’t human. Because although my mother did a great job, I still irked her nerves being a teenager and it wasn’t her fault. Her embarrassment was on a way smaller scale if I ever did embarrass her but those really were different times. And I can recall countless times my friends got in the same or worse trouble, by just being a teenager. Scientifically teenagers lobes of the brain aren’t even fully developed so half the stuff they do they REALLY don’t know why they did it! They are going to make mistakes. This is a new day and age where this stuff is “cool” in school and everything you say and do can be permanently attached to you via technology. It’s a new thing for parents to deal with and punishments are evolving accordingly. Back in my day, you wrote a note to your friend but get caught, all you had to do was hurry and rip it to pieces. If a girl in school slept with the football team, it was only he say/she say. I can bet that you can imagine how those scenarios might apply in 2012. Just saying don’t sit there behind a keyboard and judge parents like there is a parenting guild line everyone should follow. How would you know how it feels to raise a child in the spotlight? After years of being proud of being “hardcore” but when your daughter see “hardcore” men and goes for that because it’s all she knows…

  • JAYmatic

    Also, at least from what I understand, he wrote the song right after she posted the pic and cats hit him up to tell him what she was doing. So what we are basically witnessing is his gut reaction to it. I let a few of my people hear the song and the all related to it….and if I have a daughter, I KNOW I will. His authenticity plus No ID’s production gives this song basically what I look for in a dope song. It basically “felt” right. It didnt “seem” contrived…there wasnt a sing-songy hook….there wasnt a catchy loop (even though I love how “basic” that No ID kept the track) and there was a certain “rawness” that made me understand what Nas was onto. When you are conveying an emotion in song, there arent any rules to it, and really, I dont know how you can go about a situation like this and do it any different than Nas did.

    • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

      +1

      • http://www.twitter.com/HumanSpiderACNJ The Human Spider

        Más dos.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Also, at least from what I understand, he wrote the song right after she posted the pic and cats hit him up to tell him what she was doing. So what we are basically witnessing is his gut reaction to it.”

      so basically, his own embarrassment had more to do with this song than his concern for his kid?

      • JAYmatic

        No

      • Justmetheguy

        I would imagine both embarrassment an concern played a role. Who are we to say which played a larger role? Who are we to say how this will effect her? It’s an interesting way to handle the situation regardless. Glad I’m not famous. Makes growing old and dealing with human issuesmuch more awkward…

    • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

      Agreed. the song felt pretty natural, realistic and honest.

  • Lola

    As a Jay-Z Stan i wanted to dislike this song. And while I agree that perhaps putting his daughter on front street wasn’t the best way to go, when you’re famous and what your daughter has done is on a social networking site it’s better to have come out this way with the father acknowledging his short comings, wishing to rectify them, and using his stardom as a way to reach other young men and stress the importance of a father in a girl’s life. The fact that she’s old enough to understand makes it better for me considering she more than likely had a talk with him by now, she’s old enough to understand what happens when your parent is a star, and she was in the end of the video, which to me was giving her seal of approval to be part of the solution instead of the problem. i commend them both. Now ummm let’s talk about Blue Ivy or something, all this Nas talk is making me itch. LOL

    • Meisarebel

      Exactly.

      She’s in the bloody video. She knows the deal, thus Nas wasn’t really over stepping, just perhaps sharing a whole lot. I didn’t know about this prior to this post, but still, I disagree with the statement that she may be negatively affected by this song.

      If that were the case, doubt she woulda been in the video, and I wouldn’t like to think Nas wrote and released this BEFORE talking to her to begin with.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “when you’re famous and what your daughter has done is on a social networking site it’s better to have come out this way with the father acknowledging his short comings”

      you really think this was the best way?

      • Lola

        i don’t know that it’s the BEST way, but so many of our folks are exploiting us on shows like Basketball Wives, Love & Hip Hop, etc i think we need things to offset that. This type of song needed to happen, and if he had merely made this song without mention of it’s inspiration people would have called him on it anyway saying he only made that because his daughter is out there doing yadda yadda yadda. So to be a united front instead and say “we” as a father, as a daughter, as individuals need to do better is better than… not.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      i think its funny that you feel like since you’re a Jay stan you have to dislike a Nas song. lol. them ninjas buried the hatchet, why can’t you?

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        as seen in the still (somehow) standing lebron/kobe debate, fans go harder than the actual people being talked about do.

      • Lola

        you’re right they did, but i was never really a huge Nas fan to begin with so i didn’t just pick a side. i was already a fan of one and the other… not so much. while i admire what Nas promotes and represents i prefer to read books, go to exhibitions, etc to learn and understand our culture. music is a form of escape for me so Nas’ music doesn’t really fit the bill for what i’m looking for. plussssss if you’re in NYC and you’re a diehard, met Jay-Z and cried like a crazy Justin Bieber teen, been to 23 concerts, know every word from Reasonable Doubt to his WTT collab with Kanye when an artist you didn’t particularly care for anyway begins a song with “fuck jay-z” it’s easy to say “f*ck him” lol. and it would diminish the validity of my argument in the ever ongoing Jay vs Nas if i actually liked him. And as a sidebar, KOBE is better! #LakerGang

  • pe.riche.

    I like the concept behind “Daughters” because it takes quite a bit of self depreciation to openly admit one’s shortcomings, especially if those shortcomings are manifested in one’s own child.

    I don’t have any children, so I can’t fully speak on the perils and joys and parenthood. However, I wonder why Nas is so surprised that his daughter mirrors the women he dates/dated? I mean, at some point he dated her mother, so why is he so shocked that his own daughter mimicks the behavior of one of the most influential people in her life?

    • Chanelle

      “However, I wonder why Nas is so surprised that his daughter mirrors the women he dates/dated? I mean, at some point he dated her mother, so why is he so shocked that his own daughter mimicks the behavior of one of the most influential people in her life?”

      I don’t think most men grasp this concept about their daughters at first. Your daughters will more than likely mimic behaviors of their mothers so that why its so important to choose wisely to begin with…..the same goes for women choosing wisely for their sons as well.

      • whostolethesoul1

        TRUE: Please pass it on —> Not all attention is good attention.

        Some people have hundreds of twitter and/or FB followers and don’t have a clue who they are. We upload so much BS for “fun” and what we pretend is for a small online social circle, while actually hoping to be “liked” or retweeted. 15 minutes of fame is traded for dignity-this sh*t comes back, you can’t erase on the internet, no undo, no my bad…nunna that ish.

      • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

        “Your daughters will more than likely mimic behaviors of their mothers so that why its so important to choose wisely to begin with…..the same goes for women choosing wisely for their sons as well.”

        Sadly, in this day and age, a lot of people who are parents- or at least want to be parents- do not take this into consideration until long after the child is born. And by “long after”, I mean when the child is almost an adult.

        • Justmetheguy

          @PA- Yea man. I realized this fairly recently but it’s such a critical point for men to realize. I noticed it from the cousins in my HUMONGOUS family. The quality of the mother is the MOST critical factor in how the kids come out. ESPECIALLY the daughter. Fellas u better choose wisely, or keep ur complaints to yourself

          • MJoy

            good thing I’m so phucking fabulous

          • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

            @ jmtg

            Negating the role of a father in her daughter’s life and placing all the responsibility on the mother is laziness of thought. A mother and father play a critical role in a child’s life that is NOT mutually exclusive. The only reason a father should not be in his daughter’s life is because, he is six feet under.

            Otherwise just because I carried her to term and pushed her out into the world, does not make my role any more critical than yours, as her father. It takes a sperm and an egg to make a child, and as such, in parenting it takes a mother AND a father to make critical impressions on that child.

            • Chanelle

              “Otherwise just because I carried her to term and pushed her out into the world, does not make my role any more critical than yours”

              We aren’t saying the fathers role isn’t also critical but please recognize daughters are more likely to mimic their mothers in behavior than their fathers. I am only stating how important it is to choose a good mother especially since the mother typically takes on more of the responsibility when child rearing.

              • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

                k. i still have issues with alla dat.

              • Justmetheguy

                Thanks Chanelle, that’s what I was trying to say. The mom will play the bigger role in socializing the kid if both parents are there. It’s more or less inevitable. Also the girl is more than likely gonna look to her mom as a role model for two reasons
                1) She’s a female also so the model her mom displays will be the first, most long lasting, and thoroughly observed example I womanhood
                2) Who the mom is says a lot about who the father is, what he admires, and what he ultimately found attractive. So the who the mom is actually kinda speaks for both parents’ interests and values…

                So in other words lil sis, I’m not bein lazy at all thank u very much lol

                • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

                  mmkay.

                  • RANDY SAVAGE

                    the father is more then the mother end of story. all chicks that end uo being sluts, strippers, out partyin 24/7 have daddy issues and thats a fact

          • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

            Yeah really, because they wouldn’t want to be the next guest on the Maury Povich Show, LMAO!

  • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

    Wow. After reading your post I was all set to hate the song and video. Nas is unquestionably top 5 dead or alive but in the past 5-10 years he’s more liable to drop f*ck-shit than classics, plus I, as a Jay-z fan HATED the Blue-Ivy song… HATED IT. I think that it was corny and pandering… basically everything you felt about this song…

    But I dig this song. I think Nasir captured something that has been touched on in hip hop but never fully explored. Where you see awkwardness I see authenticity and realness.

    • JAYmatic

      ….plus, I think ALOT of fathers go through this VERY thing. Its HARD to reconcile certain actions in your past with regards to chics. And you try so hard to steer your daughter away from certain things because you KNOW what time it is. Its a bitter pill to swallow. He even alluded to talking to her about what happened in the song. Its a tough deal when youve basically told your kid all they are gonna want to hear and then their mind gets clouded by boys and relationships. He even mentioned that the boys probably know her her father is in the song. I since a great deal of fear of letting his daughter grow up…..and fear that he wont be there to protect her. This song reeks of authenticity as far as Im concerned. An you know what? most music that we really “feel” comes from a genuine place. We just dont neccesarily know the backstories.

      • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

        “This song reeks of authenticity as far as Im concerned. An you know what? most music that we really “feel” comes from a genuine place. We just dont neccesarily know the backstories.”

        This right here!!!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Where you see awkwardness I see authenticity and realness.”

      i see all three

    • Mena

      “Where you see awkwardness I see authenticity and realness.” Agreed. This song was on point. Like he brought it back on himself with the way his daughter is behaving. Like he hates it but then he’s like “who am i to throw stones at you? You’re my daughter. I helped you become the person you are. Let me self-reflect on that one for a minute.”