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Why Casey Affleck’s Win Aint A Defense Against Nate Parker’s Loss

A few months ago, widespread rumblings about Casey Affleck’s sexual allegations began to surface in my social media space. To be completely real, my very first encounter was when someone dropped a NY Mag link in my women-centric industry Google Group. Not on my Twitter timeline, not on my Facebook feed, not via Instagram scrolling. There was nary a peep via my usual “breaking news” sources.

In 2010, two separate women accused Affleck of sexual harassment while working with him on the Joaquin Phoenix mockumentary, I’m Still Here, which he directed. The allegations, brought on by Amanda White and Magdalena Gorka (the film’s producer and cinematographer), included verbal and physical harassment on set. These resulted in $2 million and $2.25 million suits, respectively.

Weeks went by and I saw Affleck being taken to task by firm, yet small, movements. Even bigger still, was the campaigning of his frontrunner status as “Best Actor.” On Sunday night, January 8th, he won the Golden Globe for Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture – Drama, for his portrayal in Manchester By The Sea.

Inevitably, the comparisons creeped out. Nate Parker’s name drifted amongst his naysayers and defenders, alike.

Let’s list some similarities: Both have been accused of serious sexual allegations. Both have vehemently denied them. They’re both men.

And now, some differences: Parker was acquitted; Affleck reached a settlement for the suits. Parker’s case was criminal; Affleck’s case was civil. Parker was burgeoning into the mainstream; Affleck is Hollywood royalty.

Oh, and one more thing: Affleck is WHITE WHITE WHITE MCWHITE WITH A SIDE OF WHITEMALETTES.

It can’t be denied that there are stark differences between how media and society handles White celebrity and Black celebrity transgressions in relation to their career trajectory. Privilege is oh-so-very real and I can smell its mayonnaise-odor from here. There are myriad of examples of Blacklisting celebrities, while their White counterparts get to not only continue to cook, but thrive. But, I will never-ever-in-neverland-ever be here for using that — or Affleck’s flourishing — as a defense to advocate Nate Parker’s “right” to be let off the hook.

That is not a fight I’m willing to throw hands for, as you’ll catch a pile of bullshit. Affleck’s winning-tour is not a reason for Parker to “get off,” it’s a mirror held up to the tangled web of Hollywood’s racially-misogynistic depravity. Affleck’s golden gains doesn’t mean both men should be deemed right; it only shines a glaring light as to just how wrong they both are.    

I’m also not down for the “trauma Olympics” conversation brewing amongst the reports. Trauma is trauma is trauma is trauma. Now, there are various levels to sexual assault and criminal punishments that match for a reason, just as there are for battery in comparison to murder. Rightfully so. What I will NOT stand for; though, is any defense of “well this isn’t as bad as that,” in order to defend Affleck. The traumatic effects from continued sexual harassment triggered by a man in a highly-regarded position of power (who also maintains nominal power) is nothing to scoff at. And it’s certainly not an opportunity to exploit the horrifying and incomparable traumas of rape in order to downplay its effects.

As the poet-laureate, Meek Mill, once quipped, “There’s levels to this shit.” I am able to discuss the disparities between celebrities of color and the placating of peak White privilege: in this case, a protected Hollywood legacy, such as Affleck. I am able to peep how; since that November Affleck article, there has been several more articles; a bulk of people are just choosing to ignore it. I am able to discuss that without showboating on which situation is “worse,” and able to resonate on the fact that both are heinous, gross, and reprehensible. I am able to side-eye Parker on one side, and Affleck on the other. At the same damn time!

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  • HouseOfBonnets
    • Yep. Why’d the wimmen behind Hidden Figures even use the Western alphabet at all?? Mad suspect. Too bad they couldn’t just be independant thinkerz like the rest of us.

      • Lea Thrace

        I high key blame Philly for hotepian shenanigans. I feel like that’s the epicenter. It may not be right. It may not be true. But it IS reality.

        • Nah, any hoteps in Philly have been imported.

    • Oh lordt….

    • Valerie

      “Culture Brown” has me giggling for some reason. And that avi tells me everything I need to know lol

      • HouseOfBonnets

        If you could hear the laugh I just had lmao

    • Val

      The ignorance is truly astonishing.

    • Negro Libre

      That thumbnail image tells you everything you need to know lol

    • miss t-lee

      Cheesus Crice.

    • Cleojonz

      There are no words.

    • IAmMikeBrown
      • Lea Thrace

        the only appropriate response to this bullshittery

        • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

          Is it bad that I want to steal his line “you might think I’m tripping . . .”?

          • Raspberry04

            Nope. It’ll be on par for who you are.

    • Tonja (aka Cheeks)

      Yo I saw this last night and slid out my chair. Hidden Colored Fences out in theaters January 35th!

    • Hotep Pimpington never stops does he?

      • HouseOfBonnets

        Can’t stop,won’t stop

        (Cues diddy dance)

  • Mr. Mooggyy

    The crimes are different (while both serious) and also…..Affleck had “people”. Nate chose to be his own PR agent! Case closed!

    In other news…..this n1pple hard weather has to go!

    • Tam

      Get some rum and enjoy the weather.

      • Mr. Mooggyy

        I got some of that Authentic Tequila! I’ll be good….once I get home!

        • Jennifer

          Went to a Balkan place last night and tried some Rakia — 80-100 proof brandy. Those people aren’t playing. If a cold was even trying to take over my body, it was certainly annihilated. Perfect for the cold weather.

          • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

            How was the flavor?

            • Jennifer

              I tried the Pear flavor. It’s strong — it doesn’t have any sugar, so you catch the flavor on the tail end. It smooths out after a few sips.

              • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

                At 80 to 100 proof, I think the smoothing out was a combination of buzz kicking in and taste buds dying off. :

                • Jennifer

                  Probably. :-)

                • Jennifer

                  Let me know if you find some.

    • IAmMikeBrown
    • Cleojonz

      What’s wrong with hard nipples? :)

      • Raspberry04

        Don’t encourage him.

  • NomadaNare

    Please come with it

    The mental gymnastics I have heard from certain folks have been Cirque de Soleil level contortionist

    Real talk I ended a date when a woman tried to defend Nate Parker on the *why now* tip

    • Val

      Happy New Year, NN!

      • NomadaNare

        Happy New Year to you as well

        I wish you all the bestest

  • Val

    Who is down for asking VSB for an OBAMA farewell speech open thread?

    • cyanic

      Orange winning ruined his goodbye for me. He can just leave unceremoniously. Thinking about him makes me think of how ineffective he was against his political enemies. How he was too interested in white approval and would compromise us for the sake of the most shallowest acknowledgement from them. Michelle is our ride or die not him.

      • Val

        Welp.

      • He invited Walter Scott’s murderer’s mother to the town hall on police brutality and I cringed. Then he told us to vote for Hilary to save his legacy. Nah, son. I’m happy to have had you, but you can leave now.

        • Raspberry04

          “Then he told us to vote for Hilary to save his legacy.”

          He actually never said this. He just told people to vote.

      • Raspberry04

        “How he was too interested in white approval and would compromise us for the sake of the shallowest acknowledgement from them.”

        For example?

        • cyanic

          His domestic political enemies. And for the white folks the beer summit.

          • Raspberry04

            You can’t defeat an enemy that has the power to block or slow down any new laws from being created.

            As for the sip and paint moment, meh. He could have went all Black Panther; but, I beleve at that point in his presidency, he already knew that his battle for respect from white people was not his, but the Lord’s.

    • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

      You just did. :)

      • Val

        You so smart.

    • Other_guy13

      I’m in

    • Tam

      You can watch Being Mary Jane and talk about that.

      • Val

        Huh?

        • Tam

          The 4th season starts back tonight. I have no idea what goes on in that show, I never completed season 2, as a matter of fact I can’t remember if I looked at any in that season.

          • Val

            Lol I saw about 4 minutes of it on Sunday. BET had a marathon going. Otherwise I just seem to have no interest in it.

            • Tam

              I chugged through season one, part of a group watch thing. I couldn’t manage season 2.

          • LMNOP

            The most recent season was good.

            • Tam

              I’ll still pass. Though there are other series I need to catch up on.

        • Lea Thrace

          who knew three letters and a symbol could pack so much shade.

          poor BMJ. lololol

      • LMNOP

        I have been waiting for it to come back on TV for so long, and now I don’t have cable. I hope I can watch it on Hulu or something.

        Also is Obama’s farewell speech on tonight?

        • Tam

          Yes it is. I have fallen off that Mary Jane train a long long time ago.

          • Raspberry04

            I left after Season 1.

            • Tam

              About the same for me, and I am not even curious to get back.

              • Raspberry04

                Exactly. It was predictable but chex scenes were aight.

    • IAmMikeBrown

      Down like gravity. Next Friday, let’s all change our avi’s to Barack or Michelle.

    • TeeChantel

      Sadly, I’m going to miss it his speech. I snuck away to go see Hidden Figures first a second time. T-mobile Tuesday gave away $2 movie tickets for the second time in three weeks.

      • Val

        Enjoy!

        • TeeChantel

          I left the theater. It was too chilly… from the AC being on. The manager gave me a re-admission movie voucher for my trouble. Well, at least I get to see Obama!

          • Raspberry04

            Hold up! My theater when I saw HF was chilly, too!

            Are they trying to freeze us out of our own movie?

            • mssporadic

              My theater was cold too, but I have to wear 8 layers to go outside so I was fine.

              • Raspberry04

                Girl, that’s no excuse. If anything, your theater should be warm to offset the cold weather outside.

                Hold up!!!! They trying to ice us out of our black cinema because we definitely don’t live in the same states. ??

                #Conspiracy

                I saw Fences in the same movie theater the following week and the movie theater started off warm, but it got cold at the end.

                Was your theater owned by Cinemark?

                • mssporadic

                  I’m a girl. Changing up my avi to avoid the trolls and such.

                  Yeah, my theater was Cinemark. There were icicles forming in the theater, but it was cold. It was single digits up in these parts, so you only gonna get so much in the building.

                  • Raspberry04

                    Girl, I hear you. We gotta stay incognito in these e-streets.

                    HOLD.UP.

                    Dassit. I’m writing them a letter of complaint.

                    Girl, this is a conspiracy….movie suppression…I don’t want to call it, but it ain’t right.

            • TeeChantel

              Something is going on!

  • Negro Libre

    Unrelated,

    Interesting Story about Fox News:

    http://www.newsweek.com/truth-behind-megyn-kelly-nbc-deal-541132

  • miss t-lee

    Love you Cheekie.

    • Tonja (aka Cheeks)

      The feeling is so mutual homeslice of pizza

  • Negro Libre
    • Jennifer

      I’m so tired. His term hasn’t even begun.

    • *Adds “Soft Sensuality” to list of fake band names.

  • DM.

    Off topic, but i can’t believe the Vivica backlash.
    It must suck to work in Hollywood, goodness.

    • Negro Libre

      Welp,

      That’s the social media game now…fame, outside of the money, is way overrated and without the money, it’s a curse.

    • Val

      What did she do?

      • DM.

        Lmao i typed up a whole synopsis of the situation and its stuck in moderation jail.

        • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

          Hellooo disqus

      • Lea Thrace

        said gays arent welcome at the all male revue she puts on.

        • Val

          Okay, well, I’m assuming she said it in an offensive way since it’s reasonable want to have gender segregated strip shows in some cases.

          • LMNOP

            But it’s not reasonable to say gay people aren’t welcome.

            • Val

              Yeah, that’s what I meant when I said she must have said it in an offensive way. Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I meant that it’s reasonable to have all women or all men audiences for strip shows. But to say no gay men is offensive.

          • Negro Libre

            Nah, just checked the video, she was reasonable, it didn’t matter.

            I’d go on a rant about SJWs, but that’s the game we’re in right now.

            • Val

              Link, please?

              • Negro Libre
                • Val

                  The way she said it was why it went viral.

                  • Negro Libre

                    I agree, it’s kind of ironic that Charlamagne could tell what was gonna happen and tried to throw her a lifeboat knowing that what she thought she said, wasn’t what was going to be heard.

                    We live in interesting times.

    • LMNOP

      Except the paychecks.

      • DM.

        I wonder how much they actually take home, bc aside from solid A and (some) BLister actors/-tresses they don’t seem too loaded.
        If they were all that rich they prolly wouldn’t have to hawk FlatTummyTea or those teeth whiteners on IG

        • B. Tracks

          You shan’t have an opinion, if its not the popular opinion.

          -Social Media 2017

          • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

            Taking no prisoners in 2017 I see.

        • Negro Libre

          Compared to most they probably make good dough, but then again keeping up with the Joneses plus, Cali taxes will do anyone in.

  • NonyaB?

    “But, I will never-ever-in-neverland-ever be here for using that — or Affleck’s flourishing — as a defense to advocate Nate Parker’s “right” to be let off the hook”.

    SAY IT. The fact that circumstances, community or surroundings for some groups of people allows them to evade full accountability for transgressions doesn’t mean we should let others off the hook or lower the collective bar for integrity. If anything, this highlights the interesting question of why the majority population is willing to ignore atrocities against women: mainly because majority of the people in decision-making positions (such as voting members for award shows) and majority of perpetrators of such crimes belong to the same demographic group.

    • Raspberry04

      “…mainly because majority of the people in decision-making positions (such as voting members for award shows) and majority of perpetrators of such crimes belong to the same demographic group…”

      Yup.

  • Other_guy13
    • Jennifer

      It’s getting thicker and thicker…

      Russians supposedly have Trump on tape with prostitutes performing golden showers https://t.co/9QuMNpNwr2— Justin Miller (@justinjm1) January 10, 2017

      • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

        The man was just trying to get clean. Cut him some slack.

      • Other_guy13

        Idk why this made me smile

      • Val

        WTF?

        • Tam
          • Val

            Thanks, Tam. When the ish really hits the fan it’s going to be something this country has never seen before.

            • Tam

              Welcome hun. Is it surprising that Buzzfeed is on top of the game while it can not be said for more established and reputable media outlets?

              • Val

                The mainstream media only reports on stuff like this when its forced to. Its corporate masters don’t want to make waves with the new administration.

                • Tam

                  So the fourth estate is dead. ” Four legs good, two legs better”

                  • Val

                    The Fourth Estate died back during the run up to the American was in Iraq.

                    • Tam

                      So it has been ” Wag the dog”. It is scary how much reality if mirroring fiction, instead of the other way around.

              • Negro Libre

                I’m more weirded out by Buzzfeed leaking the document…

                I hope they stepped up their lawyer game just in case.

                • Tam

                  Well Buzzfeed has been on their game this cycle. Didn’t CNN poach one of their main point persons? Well I’m almost positive this run through their legal department. Might as well get use to President Pence.

                • mssporadic

                  Doubt Cheeto will not sue. You know there are people just waiting to get him on the stand. He’d definitely be impeached then.

            • Other_guy13

              And I’ll be here for it

            • Mochasister

              This country deserves it. It’s been a long time coming.

      • TeeChantel

        Wait…. what?

      • Negro Libre

        If you got time, check out the whole documents for yourself:

        https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html

        • Tam

          Golden shower?? If that is true, family values at it again.

          • Negro Libre

            How much you wanna bet Trump and Osama had the same pr0n collection?

          • Cheech

            Not on him. To defile the bed in the Presidential suite in the Moscow Ritz, because he hated the Obamas (especially FLOTUS). Page 3, para. 3 (link above).

            • Tam

              The quality of the man I suppose.

        • Cheech

          Pages 7 and 8 say the spying and information swapping went both ways. That Trump had moles in DNC and its own hackers, and that it was also spying on Russian oligarchs traveling inside the US, reporting the info back to Putin.

          That in exchange for the DNC email leaks, “the TRUMP team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/NATO defence commitments in the Baltic and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for PUTIN who who needed to cauterise the subject.”

          If true, that, ladies and gentlemen, is treason.

          • Negro Libre

            Hmmm, I’m kind of understanding now why the major networks didn’t release this, and were probably right not to do so, in retrospect.

            • Cheech

              It’s an interesting time in journalism. For the MSM, yeah, this has to be investigated and confirmed. You can’t go off half-baked.

              And yet, the MSM rules don’t really apply anymore. (Ever since drudge, rawstory, etc.)

              I feel the way I did when I first heard about Monica and the cigar. Too outrageous to believe, and yet it turned out to be true.

              Now, in this case, apparently plenty of people knew about this in July. And snippets were reported, but hardly the full story. It sure would have been nice if the voters learned this stuff before they voted.

              • mssporadic

                Would they have cared though? That’s the problem. They heard what they wanted to hear. Now, they’ll only here Russian.

        • Jennifer

          This is too much!

      • Wowza23

        I’ve heard #PEEOTUS is trending. Never change internet…never change.

    • Cheech

      Treason consists of making war against the United States, or of giving aid and comfort to her enemies.

      It is certiainly an impeachable offense.

    • miss t-lee

      Oh how I hope.

    • Hugh Akston

      nope

    • TeeChantel

      No and no.
      I’m sure his supporters will come to his defense.

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