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Why Brown Skinned Women Stay Losing In The Oppression Olympics

Only a brown skinned woman could get away with this. Let a light OR dark skinned woman try this sh*t on a plane. SECURITY!

Have you ever noticed that when it comes to colorism in our community, it’s always the lightskinneded vs. darkskint? Even in the landmark ridiculous dance number in Spike Lee’s School Daze, it was a light versus dark thing. Somehow in all the hubbub, the brown skinned women never really get much shine.

And you know what? They don’t deserve any. Brown skinned women stay winning but always wanna ask why for come they don’t get any room at the table when people start complaining about skintoned ninjas on the Other Side Blocc. Nobody’s tossing greneades but they always trying to double dutch their way into the oppression olympics trying to steal the medals from the light brites and dark skint ninjas out there struggling in the struggle.

Oh, and I’d like to go on record her as saying this is relegated to women because frankly, when was the last time you really heard a man seriously lamenting the treatment he got because of his skin tone? Sure light skinned brothers aren’t in style anymore, but it seems like we never got that memo. Men just do men sh*t and rarely worry about it. Sure we joke and I’ve been called you ole light skinned motherf*cker plenty of times by my boys…but that’s usually right before somebody needs a homeloan or needs something from a white person. In Black Man America, we all benefit from being men first.

In fact, the only Black man that really cared was the cop in Boyz N Tha Hood who really needed a hug.  He (allegedly) hated black pepper AND the back of Forrest Whitaker’s neck. That’s self-hate.

Do you remember back in the day when you met somebody in a chatroom and you hit them with the A/S/L? Yeah, you remember. If those simple stats were to your liking then you skidadled on over to a private IM convo and started describing yourself to the other person. Men, we’re simple: we go light, brown, or dark. Women on the other hand…well, it’s a little different. And this is where brown skinned women stay winning and effectively losing at the oppression olympics.

Man: Hey girl, describe yourself.

Girl: I’m caramel complected.

Man: Damn girl. That sounds edible.

Brown skinned women are the only women who can get away with describing themselves in all kinds of sexxy food sounding good stuffs. I’ve heard nougat, pecan, caramel, (call me) almond, the color of love, milk chocolate, hot cocoa, sexual chocolate, etc. How the hell do you, brown skinned women, expect to get into the argument about who has it worse when everything you do to describe yourself sounds like something I want?

“I’m fudgy.” Ninja, I like fudge.

What’s a light skint chick? Soy milk? Ewwww. Ole lactaid heffa.


“Hey daddy, I look like black licorice! Or oil change.”

“I hate black licorice. Do you have any almond joy looking friends?”

One of our favorite go to insults is skin color. You can’t do that with a caramel chick!

“Ole light skint b*tch! She think she white.”

“Ole blue black b*tch! Pay your light bills ninja.”

Now, our brown skinned friend…

“Ole caramel, you sweet sexxy thaaaaaaang you, with nice syruppy legs walking away like ole … come back baby…you ain’t nothin’ with out me. The Temps without David Ruffin’ ain’t nothin’ but a bunch of fake ass Temps! With your sexual chocolate self. Make me want to bake a cake girl…aw girl. That’s why your glasses look like two wire hangers for elephant titties.”

Or something like that.

Simple yes, but it goes even further. Think about all of the songs with skin color attached to the title. It’s either Black woman, which is all encompassing, or “Brown Skin” or “Brown Skinned Lady” or “Doo Doo Brown”. I wish a ninja would make a song called, “Light Skinned Lady”. He’d have his ENTIRE Black card revoked by Blackness Anonymous and get drop squaded. But it goes the other extreme too. We are so pained by colorism, that if a man were to make a song strictly about dark skinned woman he’d either be assumed to be satirizing or trying to assuage some guilt he has. Or worse, just being patronizing. But noooooooooooooooo, brown skinned bombshells (<—–look at that, I did it subconsciously) get all the lyrical love. Sure, all black women can be “brown skinned ladies” too, but when you hear songs like that you don’t think Paula Patton. It drove her to a white man’s arms. With blue eyes. Devil.

That’s cool though. The honeybadger don’t care. The honeybadger don’t give a sh*t.

One of my favorite sites is Those Girls Are Wild, and Shannon (the lightskinnededed one) has a video where she talks about this very thing in more depth…calling on darkies and lighties to unite against the common enemy she calls medium toned women. Ridiculously hilarious. Peep that.

So good folks of the VSB, you feel me? Do brown skinned beauties have any place in the oppression olympics? Extremists…stand up.

Flashlight Mobb.


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  • Naima

    I’m medium toned and what I get is arguments about my skin color. Girl, you are like a tan light person or a bleached dark person. Someone called me terra cotta. Someone said that was an insult.

    Honestly, I could care less man. All i know is when I went back to East Africa I was the lightest of them all. My dad is so dark, 73 years in the sun does that to a nigga.

    • SmartFoxGirl

      LOL! I think sometimes the definition of light-skin gets blurred. We may need to clarify cause I see alot of brown skin people saying their light skin. I like the word “medium tone”. Whatever you pretty brown brown, i hatechu. :)

      • Panama Jackson

        im with you, i just be callin’ women the pretty brown browns.

        seems to work for me.

      • SmartFoxGirl

        Ugh *THEY’RE sowry

  • small axe

    Buju Banton “luv de brownin’” . The color mafia got him back 20 years later.

    • Don-to-the-nie

      little know fact: in Jamaica “brownin” actually referes to the light skineded

      • Yoles

        when i go to jamaica i am called “brownin” hmmm

  • Bengemin Grehe

    At the same time they may not get any shine in the oppression olympics, I do notice they try to stick their toes in there occassionally when appropriate. I mean, what about the brothers who like the extremes?

    If dude likes ‘em light, the brown complected could claim she one with the darker variety. And if dudke likes ‘em dark (ahem ahem), the brown complected would could claim she light…or lighter. Either way, she clearly ain dark enough, which is grounds for a medal at the oppression olympics.

    • Adonis

      I am an extremist myself… Really white… Or really dark

      • Todd

        I’m an extremist like you, but even more so. I’ll check for a White chick before a light skinned sister. A White chick might hate me because I’m dark skin, while a light skinned chick WILL hate me because I’m dark skin. I’m more likely to win with a White chick.

        Though my dark-skinned sisters win overall. :)

        • Panama Jackson

          word? you think light skint chicks dont like dark skint dudes? you from Louisiana?

          • Todd

            No, I’m from Queens. Perhaps it’s me being scarred from the women up here, but generally speaking, the light skint chicks ain’t checking for me. All the Black girls that like me all pass the paper bag test, at minimum.

            • Keith

              You remind of a friend of mine. He couldn’t get any play from any of the sistahs. Oh but no as soon as he scooped up the blonde cheerleader chick, they had problems with him. I ask one girl, why are you mad? She is like how could he do that? I said when he ask you out, you claimed he was too dark. That makes no fucking sense.

              • Adonis



          • Keith

            Yep we are the capital in this damn color struck shit. I seen people of all tones get caught up in this stuff.

        • SpottieOttieDarlin

          “light skinned chick WILL hate me because I’m dark skin. I’m more likely to win with a White chick.”

          interesting. Most light-skinned girls I know actually prefer a darker man.

          • Yoles

            that’s what i have experienced too

            • LA2Tally


          • Humble_One


            “interesting. Most light-skinned girls I know actually prefer a darker man”

            I’ve heard this but never found it to be true.

        • OutrageousFlair

          Is this “R” for Rutgers alumni?…if so, shout out to R-U!!!…if not, i apologize and carry on…lol

          • Todd

            Yes, I’m a proud Rutgers alum. Cook College Class of 2001.

    • brownie

      I find this article vary tragic…im brown; simple as that and in the eyes of others, it does not matter …ask any bigoted white person or cop.

  • B. Brown

    “Fudgy” and “oil change”…just wow.

    Lil Jon, Kels, and Mario made a song extolling the virtues (if such a phrase can apply in this instance) of darker sisters on Jon’s ‘Crunk Rock’ album.

    Honey badgers are the business.

    Sisters in the middle (where they at – in the middle) seem to be straight, as they don’t have to worry about shade coming from either direction. Then again, I don’t know too many brothers who say they want a brown-skinned woman. Dudes I know usually say light or dark, although they don’t always date that way.

    I don’t know, I just don’t see it as a big thing. I’m sure the good folks will educate me if I’m missing something.

    • tgtaggie

      “Honey badgers are the business.”


    • Cheekie

      “Honey badgers are the business.”

      They are. They slap the sh*t outta cobras and eat them because they don’t give a sh*t.

      • TheAnti-Cool

        Cracked taught me that.

        • Rog

          Cracked taught so much ish lol its addicting

          • TheAnti-Cool

            Yes. Yes it is.

            That site has taken hours of my life and has me terrified of even flying over Australia. Cracked makes it seem like everything on the continent exists solely to fck you up. Especially if it’s cute and furry. Before you can say “Aw…” it’s ripped your face off and gutted you to feast on your intestines. But I love reading that stuff. lol.

            • Rog

              Those bastads also (almost) ruined comic books for me forever when the explained how most of the powers heroes possessed wouldn’t work in real life lol Deep down I knew but to see it in print was just too painful

              • TheAnti-Cool

                I felt the same way when they told me most of the stuff on Star Trek was completely impossible like transporters and even the Enterprise having portholes. It’s like, I knew that, but I didn’t need to know that, you know? :(

                Yeah. Cracked is where nerd dreams go to die. But they don’t go quietly. At least mine don’t. :)

              • Wu Young, Agent of M.E.

                I wish I would’ve known that comic book powers didn’t work before I got this damn metal added to my bones. #heavymetalpoisoningisafail

                • TheAnti-Cool

                  No worries. I’ll heal you with my Star Trek medicine.

                  (whips out my cell phone and pretends to scan you a few times)

                  Anything? No? Well, dammit Wu, I’m a VSS, not a doctor!

                  • Wu Young, Agent of M.E.

                    So cool… so cool.

                    Could I get an I.V. and a blanket instead?

                    • TheAnti-Cool

                      Sure. I gots you. And here’s some chemo for that cancer I just gave you too.

                      You’re welcome and sht. :D

                    • Wu Young, Agent of M.E.

                      You’re kinda awesome TAC. *Does the Zoolander black lung cough*

                    • TheAnti-Cool

                      You’re not so bad your self. Nice nerding with you. Live long and prosper Brotha Wu.

                      \\// <—Vulcan Fingas

                    • Cheekie

                      “\\// <—Vulcan Fingas"


                      You know, one of my proudest moments was learning how to do this signal without using my other hand to guide my fingers. You mad?

        • WayUPThere

          Gotta love I got one article open right nah!

          Honey Badgers go hard in the paint, ninja…

    • CurlyTop

      A Moni Love reference??? Love thy name is B. Brown!!

    • CaribbeanQueen

      I know the song! Miss Chocolate.. on my ipod.
      i thought it was cute lol

    • bumilla

      Honey badgers are the business

      indeed but i must admit that i never thought to call myself that. *makes mental notes*

    • Panama Jackson

      i’ve always had an affinity for darkskint chicks thought i’ve dated plenty of light skint womens to. i love the browns. in fact i just love all black women.

      *hugs* to my sisters out there.

      • J-Babi

        +15 “Brownie Points” for PJ!

      • Victoria Concordia Crescit

        PANDER ALERT.*

        (*had to do it…but only because you beat me to it)

    • MicTheMessenger

      So my curious @$$ went and youtube’d the honey badger…That mf is GANGSTER.

      Honey badgers.

      Honey badgers?

      Honey badgers don’t give a F.

      A single F.

      You could be hanging off a cliff, and need one F to survive, and the honey badger could have an F for every honey bee baby its ever eaten, and it would look at you and say,

      “You KNOW i don’t give an F, right?”


      F a pitbull.

      Honey badgers are gangster.

      Oh, and i like all complexioned women, too, but dark-skint-ed ladies? YES.

      • Panama Jackson

        dude…that video slayed my whole life yesterday when i saw it. that sh*t kilt me so dead i changed my twitter bio to show deference to the honeybadger.

        • MicTheMessenger


          That mf bit off the snake’s WHOLE HEAD. All of it. Then took a nap, woke up and ate the rest.
          It climbed into a gd bee’s hive, and ATE THE BABIES, while gettin stung like 8,000,000 times.

          We shoulda sent these to Afghanistan.

          • Panama Jackson

            yeah son…the ni**a biting off the snakes head…taking a nap b/c of the venom THEN waking back up and finishing that sninja off…murked me. no pun intended.


            btw, the way you wrote that seemed like a comedy routine. i made me laugh outloud.

          • Bunny

            The post was hilariois so i had to see it for my self and the honeybadger is went hard in the paint! Lol not only did he bite the snakes head off he took his meal first!!!! Lmfao Classic!

    • Wu Young, Agent of M.E.

      MegaHoneybadger Vs. MegaKing Cobra would make an extra terrible SyFy movie. It could star Miley Cyrus and Rebecca Black.

    • The Esquire212

      I actually prefer sandy browns… and they come in all races — EXCEPT WHITE.

  • TheAnti-Cool

    Finally, something I’m “winning” at. Yay me.

    • Yoles

      +me in the summertime i think i like honey tone or toffee or cinnamon… wow i sound like such a tasteeladee ;)

    • bumilla

      hol’ up? is this you being positive about something?

      *looks out the window to check for airborne pigs and ice*

      • TheAnti-Cool

        My personal raincloud is off this week. But It’ll be back and ready to piss all over everything again soon enough.

        (plays Stormy Weather and takes pot shots at the pigs that fly to close to my windows)

        • bumilla

          phew! i was afraid i wasn’t going to wake up this AM.

    • keisha brown

      me too!
      feels soooo good to be winning!!!
      *feels on my milk chocolately self! ;)

      • MicTheMessenger

        All of y’all are something else.

  • Malik

    Andi was the first person I thought of when I read the title. And then the Black Star song.

    • Andi


      But why Malik??!??


      • Malik

        Because you’re a beautiful brown complected woman.

        • Andi

          *blushes redbone pink*


        • bumilla

          awww. cute. :)

        • Corey

          Evan bout to get in that azz. #nohomo#

        • Panama Jackson

          PANDER ALERT.

          • Malik

            Is it so wrong that I enjoy telling beautiful women they’re beautiful?

            • Panama Jackson

              of course not, but if i, a grown man dont tell you that yu’re pandering, them i’m not doing my job. even if i’d do the same thing.

              cmonson…you know its crabs in a barrel and about not rising as a people.

        • Justme (the guy)

          Co-sign Malik. I had a secret e-crush on Andi too. Guess the secret’s out now (shrugs) lol

          • Panama Jackson

            i guess Andi is killin’ them out here in the streets.

    • KT

      I thought about that Black Star joint too after reading this.

  • Lina

    People need to post pics if they try to pick a color faction

    • MadScientist7

      i’m saying though.

    • Humble_One


      “People need to post pics if they try to pick a color faction”

      I claim team skillet, team soot, team coal, and CLCSub3. No need for pics.

      • Lina

        Sorry sir, you chose a team. A pic is necessary.

        • MadScientist7

          i’m team dark skinned. all day.

        • TWIsM


          • SmartFoxGirl

            you mean #teamevillightskinpantystealers

            …cause that’s what ya’ll are. :)

            • keisha brown

              DEAD @ SFG’s hashtag
              i laugh because its true

            • TWIsM

              Damn, why I gotta be evil? It’s ’cause I’m Black, huh? #racist LOL

              • keisha brown

                you’re Black??

                • SmartFoxGirl

                  DEAD! lolol

          • MizzCam

            I shall join you on that team as well as the team of women who stalk the bottom half of your face =)

            • TWIsM

              lol. Noted.

        • That Damn African


          • MadScientist7

            black a$$ africans unite. lol

          • Humble_One

            @That Damn African & MadScientist7

            “black a$$ africans unite. lol”

            I’m down with both of these movements

            • MadScientist7

              puts up the african fist.

        • AfroPetite


          • CurlyTop


            • I Am Your People

              Did I walk in on Miss Jessie’s twitter feed?

              (Shoutout to the 3 of you that got that)

              • SimplyMeRenee

                hahahahaha!! i see what you did there

                • LA2Tally


        • Naima


    • MizzCam

      My pic doesn’t do me justice. It was too bright in that room or suttin’.

      I get “redbone,” “yelluh chick,” and “hey lite skin” more often than not. But I stay right in that paper bag area… High yellow people put me in the caramel/brown skin class, which is just fine by me.

      Dark skinned sistas tell me when I wear white shirts I look like a ghost, or like a goth white chick when I wear black o_O

  • Cheekie

    Um, caramel cuties run this sh*t.

    Anyhow, the TRUE conundrum about being in the middle is that no one let’s you just be in the middle. Some folks STILL put you on either side. I’m most often called “light-skin” (well, especially no now since I gots me a Cancun tan. Get like moi.), when Lawd knows I’m not a yella that is high.

    “Do you remember back in the day when you met somebody in a chatroom and you hit them with the A/S/L? Yeah, you remember.”

    Wait, so “L” don’t stand for “light-skint?” Oh. But yeah, of course I remember that age/sex/location swag. It was in dem days that I got my moniker. History. #PayHomage

    And YES, Shannon Boodram is all kinds of hilarious. And gorgeous, to be honest. Even without the caramel.

    • Yoles

      cheekie… i like to say i am on the dark end of the light skin spectrum… it sounds all scientific and shyt… you can use it too with my blessing…. ;)

      • Cheekie

        Thank you, sista. Godspeed. Go with god, with speed.

        • SmartFoxGirl

          I just spit over this line!

    • Humble_One


      ” I’m most often called “light-skin” (well, especially no now since I gots me a Cancun tan. Get like moi.), when Lawd knows I’m not a yella that is high.”

      sheeeeeit. I beg to differ.

      • DG

        Say bruh, you might wanna take out that your ticket ledger…some violations are about to go down today…

        • TheAnti-Cool

          (takes my ticket now)


        • Humble_One


          Word. I’m going to need back up. Something tells me they’re going to get out of pocket with the violations.

          • Lina

            Ahem, ahem. You are in violation as well. IJS

            • Humble_One


              I am not in violation. I never described myself as a cock diesel huge peen mandingo. I’ve always said I’m a 1.5 1.75 on a scale of 1-10. No VSS needs evidence of that.

              • keisha brown


        • Andi

          You are the father of flagrant violations!

          Show us yourself!!!

          *throws molotov cocktail*

          • Yoles

            *hands Andi another*
            yea what she said!!!!!!

            • That Damn African

              *pulls out riot shield, lowers the gate, raises the castle bridge*

          • Humble_One

            @Andi & Yoles

            Like I told Lina. I’ve never claimed to be a 6’11 mandingo. I’m 4’7″ and 300lbs. I always rep my 1.5 1.75 status. Do you need evidence of that?

            • Phidelity15

              Now how in the hell did you go up to a 1.75?!?! Just cause you not a killer does not give you the right to upgrade yourself.

              The proof is in the pictures sir, so stay in ya 1.5 lane

              • bumilla

                well, damn.

            • Andi

              Actually I was aiming for DG. But I have another cocktail here with your name on it.

              *lights match*

              • MicTheMessenger

                Kneegrows is violent in this place.

                *finds kevlar

      • Cheekie

        LOL. Humble, HAVE a smorgasbord of seats. I is not light. *puts arm against Panama’s* Now him? He light-skint. I’m darker than him. A-squared plus b-squared equals c-squared. Pythagorean Theorem, bish.

        • AtypicalLibrarian

          LOL. This—–>A-squared plus b-squared equals c-squared. Pythagorean Theorem, bish.
          just reminded me that I should be doing the math review for the GRE (or working)…

    • Panama Jackson

      that is true. lol…i think we just like arguing about complexion b/c there’s no universal color…like even a pasty white chick is just pasty white. tanned white is still white.

      ninjas we be all over the damn spectrum. from blurple to casper.

      i like to call myself sequoia sepia vignette yellow.

      • Rogman

        lol you old piss colored muhfugga .

        haha just messin wid ya

      • Cheekie

        “i like to call myself sequoia sepia vignette yellow.”

        Ol’ 96-pack Crayola Box nicca.

        • Rogman

          old feel-he-so-special united colors of benetton when he really is just like watery lemonade ass nicca

          • Cheekie

            NOT united colors of benetton. *falls out in slow motion (fuh meh)*

      • keisha brown

        LMFAOOOOO @ Sepia

      • MicTheMessenger

        i wonder…do the 2520s have the same complexion inspired convo?

        I mean, they do be tannin and stuff…

        • Yoles

          yes they do… they have the naturally very pale whites, the naturally tan/olive toned and the naturally “dark” whites and they talk about each other all the time

          • MicTheMessenger


            Thank you, Yoles

          • Cheekie

            Don’t forget the “orange” folks, or as I like to call them… glasses of Tang.

          • Around the Way Girl

            Yeah, their color complexes are the reverse of ours…a lot of the pale ones hate their paleness and wish they were darker.

          • WayUPThere

            aye stop the presses. what the hell is a “dark white”? These 2520′s can’t be serious to call each other any kinda dark with indians, aboriginals, native americans, and people of african descent on the face of the earth. I don’t care if you’re from sicily, unless they’re mistaken for another race, they are not “dark white.”

            *steps off soapbox*

            • Kema

              I bet they feel the same when we call ourselves ‘light’ lol!

      • R

        Mr. sequoia sepia vignette yellow..i think i am mad that you know your spectrum colors like that…. lol

  • Queen Elizabeth

    this seems to be not a real problem, like that other post on here about big dick problems. world’s smallest violin. the only thing i can even think of is being too dark to be light and too light to be dark. i’m in the middle myself, and i’m pretty glad i don’t get dragged into those light/dark conversations.

  • theeclectic

    i’m winning??? missed the memo on that one…lol

    at the same time we always gotta hear about the sexual chocolate or the redbone chick..

    every rapper/r&b singer either goes for the redbone or the grace jones black woman

    ain’t nobody down with the brown…except the neo-soul singers….they love us to a patchouli scented death

    • muze

      this whoooole comment! lol

      neo soul loves them some brown skin.

      i heard on some CB song today… yellow car, yellow model… or something like that. smh. ordering chicks to match your car now? is that what’s good now? lawd.

      • WIP

        Black and yellow, Black and yellow, Black and yellow (no brown :( )

        • muze

          LMAO. right.

          also… i see that you’ve joined the twitter! woowoo! :-)

          • WIP

            Yes! I’m just in there randomly tweeting and I have no idea what’s going on. LOL

        • NinaFontaine

          #DEAD WIP!

        • MicTheMessenger


      • Panama Jackson

        neo soul HAS to love brown skin though. b/c as a requirement to enter the neo-soul genre, you have to make reference to the beautiful skin of the people and you cant only say dark skin or light skin. brown is all encompassing. even mexicans like those songs.

    • KneeCee

      ain’t nobody down with the brown…except the neo-soul singers….they love us to a patchouli scented death

      *poetry snaps*
      cue India Arie:

      • Deeds

        Altho India Arie in Brown Skin was really talkin about dark skin women, dark brown. India ain’t in the middle.

    • Around the Way Girl

      “ain’t nobody down with the brown”

      Lol quit playin…EVERYONE is down with the brown. That’s why brown is winning.

      • Panama Jackson

        brown skinneded women have an entire line of alcohol dedicated to them. i mean have you see what color hennessey is?


        • Around the Way Girl

          Haaaaa see what I mean?

    • Panama Jackson

      rappers put redbones in videos and exploit them and then go home to their brownskinned 6 that’s been “down since day one”.

      • muze

        LMAO if that isn’t the truth…

    • kid video

      every rapper/r&b singer either goes for the redbone or the grace jones black woman

      Bay area rapper Del tha funkee homosapien recorded a song early 90s about how he prefers dark skinned women called, (what else)”Dark Skin Girls”.

    • keisha brown

      ain’t nobody down with the brown…except the neo-soul singers….they love us to a patchouli scented death

      SO. FAR. GONE