Lists, Theory & Essay

Who I’m Iz In 5 Karakters Or Less…

1330010904_35icj4It’s Friday. And on Friday at VSB we try to have a little bit of fun around here. Well, a few days ago I made a few references to the movie Class Act which starred Kid and Play. I’ve long been associated with Kid. I always get told that I look like him, which I’m totally on the fence about. But real talk, I can totally associate with Kid’s character in the House Party movies. I didn’t have an overbearing comedian father who died and went to heaven in part two of my life story, but we are both lightskint.

Well, this got me to thinking, what five characters in movies or television shows, or whatever, would encompass the greatness that is Panama Jackson. And there’s a lot of greatness here to encompass.

So here’s my shot at picking characters that I think would best make up moi, Panama Dontavious Jackson.

1. Harper Stewart (The Best Man)

Minus admitting to be a b*tch a**, Harp was an ole writing arse ninja who put too much of his business out there for world consumption and paid for it dearly.  He almost got thrown from a roof. That’s never happened to me as I’m not Vanilla Ice (even if it is a myth I find it hilarious), but the writing and putting it all out there is similar. I’ll take the Oprah shoutout but you know she ain’t caaaaaaallll me? Anyway, Harp’s on my list.

2. Andre “Dre” Ellis (Brown Sugar)

I promise I won’t make this a Taye Diggs-a-thon. But Dre was the hiphop dude who got caught up in trying to keep it real while trying to keep it profitable. Hello, VSB? Constant struggle. Granted, I feel like his hiphop knowledge was a bit fugazi and mine is extensive as a ninja rocking Extenze with a Swedish penis pump, but thats just splitting hairs.

3. Preston Meyers (Can’t Hardly Wait)

I was the quintessential guy everybody knew who was pining away for the girl who had no clue I existed back in high school. Though thats not completely true. I had a girlfriend. I just shouldn’t have. But I did have a crush on a girl back then. And she ain’t care. But I was a cool kid and everybody knew me. The stoners loved my theories. The skaters loved my wheels. The black folks were my friends and the white folks respected my intellect. I was cooler than you. Word to the guy who sings that song.

4. Steve Urkel (Family Matters)

Hopeless romantic with a good heart extraordinaire. And the killer glasses and suspenders set. Not in 2013. But in 1995? Awwww…that’s me.

5. Will Smith (Fresh Prince of Bel-Air)

I was never really a Theo. I was more Will. But Will who applied himself in class and school. But even now. I’m cool as a fan but goofy as all get out. Goofy in the…well I don’t know how to describe it fully, I just know that in my own estimation, I feel like i matchup well with Will Smith from the Fresh Prince. I could be lying to myself, but now I’m lying to you all too.

So those are 5 characters that I feel help make up the essence of Panama Jackson. Who makes up the essence of you? And why? Share with us like you are Brother Numpsey.

It’s Friday. Happy weekending.

Somebody’s birthday is Monday.

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL HE A 3

Damon Young

Panama Jackson is pretty fly for a light guy. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. He believes the children are our future and is waiting to find out if he is the 2nd most interesting man in the world.

  • kid video

    I should be doin my job rite now…pancakes don’t flip themselves…but here we go:

    *Rocket–City of God…Just tryin to make it in the big city using my artistic skills, while tryin to avoid the gangsters that I grew up around.

    *Lee Plenty–Hav Plenty…Snarky wit a bit of a broken heart.

    *Sam Lowery–Brazil…Another brick in the wall that dreams of flying away… gets punished for trying to do the right thing.

    *The unnamed protagonist in Ralph Ellison’s Invisible Man…refused to conform to others sterotypes and expectations.

    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

      I need to watch Hav Plenty again. It’s been a couple of years at least since I’ve seen it last.

      Oh, and, wasn’t Lee kind of a jerk?

      • kid video

        Exactly…jerks be winning.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

        “I need to watch Hav Plenty again. It’s been a couple of years at least since I’ve seen it last.”

        If you’re interested, the movie’s on Hulu and Netflix.

      • K. Marie

        He was, but I still sort of loved him. Lol

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com Val

        Thanks

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          To PA.

  • msdebbs

    Florida Evans (good times) – cause I worry and take care of too many ninjas
    Moesha-I can be a lotta bit naive
    Freddie (different world) I’m all over the place sometimes
    Pam (Martin) cause I’m always single damn it
    Maxine (from living single) – Cause I do my own thing and can’t nobody tell me shhhhh

  • Todd

    This is going to be tough, but work with me here:

    Francisco D’Anconia from Atlas Shrugged: Someone with the public image as a womanizer who is quietly trying to save the world.

    Bigger Thomas from Native Son: A Black man harassed by the cops for hanging with the wrong crowd and patronized by White liberals who secretly hate him.

    Steve Urkel from Family Matters: Oh, I loved this dude back in the day

    Al Bundy from Married…With Children: A man making it work despite being constantly harassed and likely emotionally abused by women. Well…sounds like my childhood. :)

    Tony Montana: A man trying to look respectable to hide the fact that he feels worthless and evil at his core. Well, maybe I need to stop reading progressive critiques of libertarians who think we all kick puppies.

    Oh, by the way, this weekend, the Queens County chapter of the Libertarian Party is holding their annual puppy kicking festival. The proceeds will go to college scholarships for Ayn Rand devotees, and besides, since we don’t like Big Government, it’s a must that we all love kicking cute, tiny little puppies that wouldn’t hurt a soul, right? ;)

    • Sahel

      Pfft,Atlas Shrugged. One of the most economically unsound books i have ever read

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

      “Oh, by the way, this weekend, the Queens County chapter of the Libertarian Party is holding their annual puppy kicking festival. The proceeds will go to college scholarships for Ayn Rand devotees, and besides, since we don’t like Big Government, it’s a must that we all love kicking cute, tiny little puppies that wouldn’t hurt a soul, right? ;) ”

      LMAO!!!!

      (Although some bleeding heart liberals might read this and actually think it’s true.)

    • http://taterwithak.blogspot.com K. Marie

      I LOVE that you said Bigger Thomas. “Native Son” should be required reading for….well, everybody.

    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com Val

      Very interesting list, Todd.

      And, have you contacted your alma mater to tell them to get rid of their evil A.D.? What’s up with the President of Rutgers? Is he an idiot? He side-steps one controversy just to step right into another.

      • Todd

        All I will have to say about Rutgers is to pay attention to what they’re doing July 1st. Once you understand that, a lot of what Rutgers is doing will fall into place. I doubt that they’ll fire the AD, because the ripple effects will piss off too many other people. The internal politics is embarrassing though. The RU Screw rules once again.

      • Todd

        Also, I’ve been contacted multiple times to sign a petition to restore the old AD. No, I’m not joking. And sadly the petitions have thousands of signatures without me.

        Jacked as it sounds, this is the way Rutgers operates, and despite it all, I got a good education out of the place.

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          Wow. Well, since it’s a State school maybe Christie will jump in and force them to do the right thing.

    • Yoles

      i see Bigger and Urkel… not so much the Al and Tony…

      sidebar: you are not worthless at all, you a genuine person and my friend… you ARE somebody!!!!!

    • SweetSass

      Libertarians treat animals ok.

      Other people not so much.

      So not kicking puppies per se…

      Kicking homeless or poor kids out of homes, food programs, and schools.

  • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com Tristan

    Bruce Banner- Cuz well, yeah.

    Ted Mosby- Hopeless romantic, annoyingly smart that sometimes comes off as a-holeish, focused more on finding the one than just being a very eligible bachelor

    Theo Huxtable- Regular people broke, and knew exactly when to stop acting up and get it together

    Beanie Sigel in State Property- Confession i never seen the movie, but in my wilder days, my friends said i reminded them of him so i just rode with it

    Clark Kent in Smaillville- Oblivious to what power I have and how to use it for the greater good

  • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

    Good morning, VSB!
    OK, I’m game for a bit of fun…and then, it’s back to work.

    The Obsidian in Five Film Characters

    1. Maximus/Russell Crowe, “The Gladiator”: Soldier, leader of Men, just wants to go home; plus has some of the best quotes in all of movie history – “Are you not entertained?”

    2. Leon/Jean Reno, “The Professional”: A “cleaner’s” “cleaner”…cool, deadly, efficient, and hides in plain sight. Gotta love that Ring Trick…

    3. Judge Dredd/Sly Stallone/Keith Urban: Though a fan of Star Trek, I’ve always thought that the future would actually be a bit closer to the world depicted in the Dredd stories/films. Besides, everyone knows that “I am the Law!”

    4. Robocop: I hear they’re doing up a remake, which, if true, confirms just how classic this character is. “Dead or alive, you’re coming with me…”

    5. Mr. Miyagi/Pat Morita, “The Karate Kid”: I definitely can relate to his Yoda-like presence and unorthodox teaching style – “Wax on, wax off…” – plus I’m for the underdog, always.

    Happy Friday.

    More, coming up…

    O.

    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

      And now, our Feature Presentation…

      An Open Letter to Mr. Nomadanare

      “I don’t even call it violence when it’s in self-defense; I call it intelligence.”
      -Malcolm X

      To say that there is no love lost between me and fellow VSBer, Mr, Nomadanare, would be putting it lightly. He and I have traded barbs and crossed sabers quite a few times over the past year or so in this august forum, and I suspect that we will again before it’s all said and done.

      But, I do think that our ta-da-ta’s have reached something of a crossroads; during yesterday’s discussion, Mr. Nomada laidout what he thought was the proper course for Men who have been dealt a bad hand in love and life. I’ve brought his sage insights forward, interspersed with my responses, because it highlights the real bone of contention between us: does Game, meaningfully address what he’s discussed – or does his recommendations prove that Game is superfluous, and flatout wrong?

      Come, let’s see…

      “The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them.” -Maya Angelou

      How should men handle being short/dumb/ugly/poor? How do you handle anything that you don’t like about yourself? You change as much as you can and accept things that you can’t.”

      O: I wouldn’t necessarily disagree; however, the fact remains that there are those among us who just are unable to “do” much if anything about their fate, and while their reaction to this may be unpleasant, it is nevertheless rational. “Acceptance” does not, and cannot, occur in a vaccuum, if for the only reason that we are all social animals. If others do not support us in what we do, the results can be devastating, no matter how many Norman Vincent Peal-like “affirmations” we mutter to ourselves.

      “One definitely cannot cure shortness, but ugliness can be cured in certain cases and so can intelligence and poverty.”

      O: Keyword – and noted emphasis – on the phrase “can”. Let’s take each of your highlighted areas in turn.

      Since I have mentioned him before, and since you are familiar with his work, I will be referencing University of Texas, Austin’s Prof. David Buss and his bestselling book, The Evolution of Desire. In the chapter “What Women Want”, Buss outlines, based on numerous and exhaustive studies worldwide, ten distinct catergories that Women worldwide find most desirable in Men as/for mating. In the section called “Size and Strength”, Buss says the following, in part:

      “When the great basketball player Magic Johnson revealed that he had slept with thousands of women, he inadvertently revealed women’s preference for mates who display physical and atheletic prowess. The numbers may be shocking, but the preference is not. Physical characteristics, such as athleticism, size and strength, convey important information that women use in making a mating decision.”

      And

      “Analogously, one benefit to women of permanent mating is the physical protection a man can offer. A man’s size, strength, and physical prowess are cues to solutions to the problems of protection. The evidence shows that women’s preferences in a mate embody these cues. In the study of temporary and permanent mating, Amrican women rated the desirability and undesirability of a series of physical traits. Women judge short men as to be undesirable as a permanent mate. In contrast, they find it very desirable for a permanent mate to be tall, physically strong, and atheletic. Another group of American women consistenly indicates a preference for men of average or greater height, roughly five feet and eleven inches, as their ideal marriage partner. Tall men are consistently seen as more desirable dates and mates than men who are short or of average height. Furthermore, the two studies of personal ads described earlier revealed that, among women who mention height, 80 percent want a man who is six feet or taller. Perhaps even more telling is the finding that ads placed by taller men receive more responses from women than those placed by shorter men. Tall men date more often than shot men and have a larger pool of potential mates. Women solve the problem of protection from aggressive men at least in part by preferring a mate who has size, strength and physical prowess to protect them.”

      Finally, there’s this:

      “Tall men tend to have a higher status in nearly all cultures. “Big men” in hunter-gatherer societies – men high in status – ae literally big men physically. In Western cultures, tall men make more money, advance in their professions more rapidly, and receive more and earlier promotions. Few American presidents have been less than six feet tall. Politicians are keenly aware of voters’ preference. Following the televised presidential debate of 1988, George Bush made a point of standing very close to his shorter competitor, Michael Dukakis, in a strategy of highlighting their disparity in size.”

      The Evolution of Desire (TEOD), pp. 38-39

      So, there’s that, Nomada – but like you said, there’s not much a short guy can do about that, right? Right, we agree. So, let’s move on to your next point: being Ugly.

      Well, sure, a fresh cut, perhaps a trip (or three or four) to the dentist and dermatologist can certainly help. If you have the ends and don’t mind the pain, you can go whole hog with it and do the Whacko Jacko thing, and just get a complete Face-Off job done. While looks ain’t the dealbreaker for guys that it is for gals, since we’re talking about Sistas, who do seem to place a higher premium on their Men being “pretty” I would think this is an area that is iffy at best. But for the sake of argument, let’s agree that our Hero can make some improvements in this area – assuming he’s got the bread, of course. More on that, coming up.

      Moving on to I.Q., well, here’s where things get sticky. We’ve crossed swords on this point previously, most notably surrounding Charles Murray’s work The Bell Curve, which posits that Intelligence is indeed at least in part heritable. While you and others here may refute that, and think that is more a “nuture” than a “nature” kind of thing, Women – and that includes those in this forum – know otherwise:

      “Ancestral women who preferred intelligent mates would have raised their odds of securing social, material, and economic resources for themselves and their children. Since intelligence is moderately heritable, these favorable qualities would have been passed on genetically to their sons and daughters, providing an added benefit. Modern women across all cultures display these preferences.”

      Buss, TEOD, pp. 35

      Contrary to the popular belief, merely attending thus and so school, assuming of course, you can get in there to begin with, does not make one smart; at best, it can help one hone their inherent, in-born cognitive talents. But stand alone, no.

      So, the notion that “intelligence can be improved” has not been proven to be the case, despite repeated tests the world over. In short, and for the most part, you either got it, or you don’t.

      Finally, that brings us to your last item on the list – “poverty”. Now to be sure, in the Land of Opportunity, in theory, yes, our Hero can make like Horatio Alger and make something out of himself, pulling himself up by the proverbial bootstraps. But, in order to to that, he not only needs to work hard, but he also must work smart as well, right? And, we’ve already noted that he’s none too bright, and has other genetic and environmental insults working against him – all of which have a direct bearing on his impoverished state. Sure, he can catch lightening in a bottle – this IS America, after all – but cmon, let’s be honest. That really is a longshot.

      In sum, a short, ugly, dumb, poor guy, has little going for him and is likely not to have anything going for him. Not pretty, I will readily admit, but brutally true nonetheless – and we all, deep down, know this.

      Including you.

      “As for accepting the things one can’t change, this is a personal question that has to do with a lot of soul searching. I can’t tell one how to accept the things about themselves that they don’t like, however I can tell them that they will be happier if they learn to accept themselves precisely how they are.”

      O: Well, aren’t you the Little Iyana in Training. Sure, one *can* be “happier” if they accept your advice – oh, wait, a BIG part of a Man’s happiness is being able to mate, preferrably with the choicer females. Indeed, NOT being able to do this, has been a tremendous source of angst, anger and deep, deep pain for arguably millions of Men down through the ages. Aping a Zen knockoff approach to life may sound good, but it doesn’t get the job done where it counts, Nomada. Nice try, though.

      “One thing that women are attracted to is people that are comfortable in their own skin, because most people aren’t.”

      O: To be sure, confidence in a Man is a beautiful thing to the ladies; having said that, the ten qualities and characteristics that Buss discussed certainly make it one to be more “comfortable in one’s own skin” than one who has NONE of those qualities; in fact, all things being equal, the latter is the result of the former, and the two then form a self-perptuating loop.

      “The ones that don’t care about the places your deficiencies are, will love you even more because you’ve become more of a person by flourishing in other areas. All overcompensation (i.e. attempting to base your insecurity about one thing on a proxy that unintentionally overemphasizes your insecurity ex: short guy in a hummer, wack sex guy in a ferrari) shows is that you haven’t accepted whatever you are insecure about.”

      O: Ahhh, now we get to the good part – the “someone out there will love you” part. Well, guess what, Nomada? I’m going to agree with you – someone out there probably will “love you” if you go the route you’re proferring.

      Here’s the trick though…

      What if that “someone” is…unattractive? Fat? Homely? Old? Already has kids? Was already married? Or just isn’t your…type? Now, let’s get the obvious out of the way – yes, what I’m saying comes off as ungrateful, looking a gift house in the mouth, maybe even a weebit entitled. And I wouldn’t disagree with any of that.

      But in an age were we as a society places such a premium of importance on being able to pursue – even if we fail – that which we truly desire, and indeed laud Women in particular for doing this, regardless as to what, if anything, they are bringing to the mating and dating table, it just seems odd to me that we want to shackle Men to the past, once again, and demand that they accept whoever comes along that sees “the the real you”. That works fine if they makes your nature rise – but what if they don’t?

      Then what?

      Even 1s, don’t really want to be with 1s, if they can help it.

      “As for your second statement, 1. only some of the deficiencies that I’ve stated above are inherent”

      O: Glad that we agree…

      “and 2. you’ve inserted “pleasantries” and “pretty lies” into my statement with your misrepresentation of what I’ve actually said. Nobody said anything about compensating for “inborn deficiencies”, but accepting them, moving on with your life, and doing well wherever you can instead of becoming bitter at the world because you’ve been stuck with something you don’t like.”

      O: But being bitter at the world, while no doubt unpleasant, IS a rational response. That is NOT an endorsement; it is an explanation of phenomena that is real.

      As for “doing well wherever you can”, that doesn’t necessarily translate into mating currency, Nomada. Being “well wherever you can” doesn’t automatically mean that you will be able to convert that into being able to get a desirable mate. The answer is, that it *can* – which is incredibly context dependent – again, see Buss above. Those who possess more of what Women the world over desire, are in a better position to “do well wherever they can”, AND to convert this “wellness” into real mating currency out on the open dating and mating market.

      “I’ve asked you before and I’ll ask you again: for anything you try to say is “truth”, you need to provide references. Show me studies that support the hypothesis that for all known animals in the animal kingdom most males don’t mate. After that, show me studies that support the hypothesis most human males don’t mate.”

      O: And I’ve responded time and again in the following manner:

      The Evolution of Desire
      Evolutionary Psychology: The New Science of The Mind
      The Red Queen
      A Billion Wicked Thoughts
      Sperm Wars
      The Mating Mind

      These, just to name a few, are highly reputable works, at least one of which is an actual textbook and considered to be a standard bearer in the field. Nothing I’ve said above is controversial or shocking in the least to those with the most even casual understanding of the matters under discussion. Moreover, roughly twice as many Women down through history have a genetic heir, vs. half as many Men who have none. These are the results of selection pressures both genders faced in the ancestral environment, and continue to face today. That you flat out refuse to avail yourself of even one book on the aforementioned list, is not a problem I can nor should solve.

      “Finally, I will say this again I’m not advising anyone to be nice. This is again a misrepresentation of my argument. I’m saying that instead of focusing on the places where you can’t measure up, focus on the places where you can be better than average. The people that like you for you and don’t care about superficial things will like you more for the self improvement and not really care about the places where you don’t measure up. If anything you can’t change is a deal breaker, then you don’t need to be around them anyway.”

      O: No, you’re not saying “be nice”; you’re rehashing an old saw literally millions of Men have heard:

      “Be Yourself”.

      Well, that doesn’t work, Nomada – and for all your upbraiding of me for what you see as a failure to provide hard evidence to support my claims, and for all your vaunted education and expertise, your “advice” sounds terribly naive and cliched. Let me ask you: where is YOU evidence, YOUR studies that supports anything you’ve said above? Can you point us to anything of a scholarly nature, that supports your claims and advice, with repeatable results?

      Let’s not mince words here, Nomada – you don’t like Game, and you don’t like me. Both of which I am more than cool in living with. But, here’s the thing:

      For all the shots the Seduction community has taken, the sheer FACT that literally millions of Men around the globe has lent it their ears, says something – not that it works per se (although it most assuredly does – certainly more than the kinds of advice you’ve doled out above) – but that this sheer fact is a damning indictment on the whole of our culture at the dawn of the 21st century. That millions of Men feel that Game is their last, best hope at finding love and yes, s8x, with the Women they actually desire, says that all the pretty lies and polite fictions about Human Mating that we’ve clung to, were ruinously WRONG.

      Let me also be brutally frank: I have not ever, nor am I saying now, that Game, is omnipotent. It’s not. It has its limits. All Men won’t gain equally from its study, application and use, because all Men are NOT equal.

      But, having said that, what just about any Man CAN get out of Game, is a much-improved romantic and s8xual life than he enjoys, today. That short/ugly/dumb/poor guy mentioned above won’t be pulling down any 8s, 9s or 10s, but he WILL be picking up solid 4s, 5s and even the occasional 6 – and he will be happy as a clam doing it. Not only have I read about this, I’ve seen it happen firsthand.

      Not only that, but a Man will get a bigger bang for his personal self-improvement buck from studying Game, than he will doing just about any of what you’re talking about; within a year and nowadays for very little cost, a Man can markedly improve his dating life. How long would it take for a Man to escape grinding poverty, Nomada? How much would it cost to do the facelift thing? I think both would take a far sight more than what I’m offering, that’s for sure. For guys who limited options, time and resources, they gotta pick their shots – and make em count. After all, Moral Victories, are for Losers.

      Game, helps a Man WIN.

      And when you’re getting Women, you’re winning – there’s just no two ways about it.

      Now adjourn your arse…

      O.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        This was 2,845 words. At 7am.

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

          A new record!

          :)

          What can I say; I always was an early riser.

          O.

        • nillalatte

          ROTFLMAO!!! I ain’t had time to look at the comments today, and this just totally cracked my arse up! I was annoyed with the extra scrolls, but this just kilt me! LOL

    • Todd

      I think your list fits very well O. It definitely is reflective of your public persona. Still, I’d like to ask you three questions. First, how tall are you? Two, tell us about the worst time a woman clowned you about your height. Three, tell us how well you got along with your mom. :)

      • https://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

        *shots fired*

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com Val

          Ballistic missiles.

          • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

            @Ms. Val:
            In your dreams…

            O.

      • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

        @Todd:
        “Still, I’d like to ask you three questions.”

        O: Sure!

        “First, how tall are you?”

        O: 5’8″.

        “Two, tell us about the worst time a woman clowned you about your height.”

        O: I’ve never been “clowned” in the manner you’ve suggested; however, I was turned down by a number of girls I was interested in taking to the prom, each one doing so on the basis of my height, or the lack thereof (more on this below). So, since I couldn’t get the girls I wanted as a prom date, and wasn’t attracted to the girls who might have gone out with me, I decided to sit the prom out.

        And it was just as well – I was eager to get the much-ballyhooed highschool experience over with, and begin my life. I considered that time of my life a colossal waste of time and a supreme insult to my intelligence. I definitely get why so many Black boys dropout of highschool – but that’s another discussion for another day…

        “Three, tell us how well you got along with your mom.”

        O: Quite well, in fact; she was a Class Act and a Grand Lady.

        To follow up on the afore-mentioned remarks relating to my lack of height – I recall once my mom taking me to the doctor for a routine medical checkup, and I did the usual height-weigh in thing. After I stepped off the scale, the doctor turned to my mom and said, “Well, Ms. Obsidian, that’s about it. Your son may grow a few inches taller between now (I was about 15 at the time and about 5’5″) and his late teens to early 20s – but that’ll be it.”

        My mom and I looked at each other, and she shrugged. Like so many good and well-meaning people, she too wanted to believe in the pretty lies and polite fictions of life – especially when it comes to the arena of romance, love and s8x.

        There are those here and elsewhere, who wish to impute upon me the tired trope of a bitter and angry Man, cursing the slings and barbs that life has dealt him – and they couldn’t be more mistaken. In fact, I am quite grateful for all those experiences, both mine, and those of whom I have been able to observe. Why?

        Because they have taught me the grand, and powerful lessons of life itself – that it is not the contrived make-believe we so often have invested in. Such things are for those among us who have been blessed by time and place, to be able to afford them. For the rest of us, we are much better suited and advised, to deal with the world, as it is, and not as we would want it to be.

        Doing this has given me a greater appreciation of the world and the people living in it.

        O.

        • mena

          Dude, you’re 5’8?!? That’s not short. You make it seem like you are barely 5’4.

          • Sahel

            O for UN secretary general.

            • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

              @Sahel:
              “O for UN secretary general.”

              O: Thank you! I accept.

              :)

              O.

          • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

            @Ms. Mena:
            “Dude, you’re 5’8?!? That’s not short. You make it seem like you are barely 5’4.”

            O: Actually, per the American national average, it is. Roughly two to three inches, to be exact.

            Also, please see my Open Letter to Nomada above, where I quote at length from Buss’ book on the matter, which discusses the evolved preferences Women throughout the world have along these lines; they comport well with previous discussions taking place in this very forum in the past, on the part of the ladies here, who are quite open – and adamant – about their preferences in this regard.

            O.

          • Afropetite

            I’m thinking about all the guys I know who are 5’8 – 5’9 range and I think that women who are between 5’4 and 5’6 would consider a 5’8 man to be “shorter than they’d typically go for”

            • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

              @Ms. Afro Petite:
              Again, I must ask you to kindly see the above Open Letter to Mr. Nomadanare, where I extensively quote Buss on the matter; Women’s preferences in this regard is quite well documented, the world over and quite consistently at that…

              O.

            • mena

              Not me. I am 5’6 and have dealt with dudes who are 5’7 – 5’9. I don’t think I have ever gone taller. I am not that attracted to extremely tall guys. At my height, it just looks weird to me. I have seen 5’4-5’6 women with 6’6 dudes and it doesn’t look right.

              6’0 is really where I would stop.

              • Afropetite

                Yea I’m 5’2 and seeing NBA sized men with women of my stature is odd.

                However, men that are 5’10 + always approach me so who am I to turn them away?

                • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                  @Ms. Afro Petite:
                  Precisely. Like Ms. Mena, you have a preference for Men in the 5’10″-6′ range – as again, worldwide surveys of Women, personal ads, etc, confirm.

                  O.

                  • mena

                    No. My preference is the 5’7-5’9 range which I mentioned above. Anything above 6’0 is too much height for me.

                    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                      @Ms. Mena:
                      You said that you “dealt with” guys between the heights of 5’7″-5’9″; that alone does not speak to preference, though it *can*.

                      Thanks for the clarification just the same…

                      O.

                    • mena

                      I also want to add that I care more about weight and body structure than i do about height. Something that I have mentioned on this site multiple times. I prefer thicker men. Think baseball and not football.

                    • Malik

                      Baseball players are usually in terrible shape though. This isn’t the 40s-60s were you got track stars turning to baseball.

                    • mena

                      @Malik: I prefer bigger guys. Thick thighs, @ss, and barrel chests. Also, yes, some are overweight but others are just thick.

              • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

                *crosses Mena off the list of potential e-crush*

                • mena

                  NO!!!!! I like you PA. There are exceptions to every rule. :-) You will be mine.

              • Todd

                I had a 5’4″ girlfriend (who is also the White woman I had a seriously relationship with before my wife, but that’s another story). That weirded me the heck out. Heck, whenever she wanted to nuzzle under my neck, she’d end up looking crazy because she could barely reach my chest.

                I did understand the gesture though. :)

              • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                @Ms. Mena:
                “6’0 is really where I would stop.”

                O: This is about right; all of the worldwide surveys done of Women, not to mention what their stated desire per personal ads and the like, confirm what you’ve just said above…

                O.

                • http://www.alltherightquestions.com T.Q. Fuego

                  ” This is about right; all of the worldwide surveys done of Women, not to mention what their stated desire per personal ads and the like, confirm what you’ve just said above…”

                  What do you mean O? You think most women have 6 foot as the cutoff or ideal height? If so I have to respectfully disagree.

                  • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                    @TQF:
                    Per the researches as put forth in Buss’ book and many, many other sources, Women worldwide, and in America in particular, have a noted and consistent height preference for Men, usually in the 5’10″-6’1″ or so.

                    The evidence on the matter is quite conclusive and easily found online.

                    O.

                    • http://www.alltherightquestions.com T.Q. Fuego

                      O- I think they like them AT LEAST 5’10-6’1″ but I feel like ideally most of them would prefer men even taller than that. Diminishing returns doesn’t take place till about 6’4″ or better

            • Todd

              And this stuff angers me greatly. Like bish, go to him! Unless you’re rocking those 6 inch stripper heels on the reg, he is TALLER than you. Get away. Besides, you trigger my neuroses. :)

              • camilleblu

                umm…not all 6 inch heels are skripper heels….#jussayin

                • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                  @Ms. CamilleBlue:
                  Just curious: what other kinds of 6″ heels would there be? Please explain?

                  O.

                  • Malik

                    Christian Louboutin

                  • camilleblu

                    yep…malik’s got it…among other brands…i’m not talking about cheap pleather or plastic with clear heels…

                    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                      @Ms. CamilleBlue:
                      Noted. But I am still not quite understanding the notable distinction between the brand(s) Malik noted and the “stripper” footwear Todd alluded to.

                      Please explain?

                      Thanks!

                      O.

        • blackphilo

          Excellent, personal, and deep writing here, O. Your strongest case yet for “Game.”

          “So, since I couldn’t get the girls I wanted as a prom date, and wasn’t attracted to the girls who might have gone out with me, I decided to sit the prom out.”

          This opting out seems similar in spirt to the approach that many BW seem to be taking, in effect, re committed relationships. The difference, of course, is that children weren’t involved in your calculation.

          • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

            @Black Philo:
            “This opting out seems similar in spirt to the approach that many BW seem to be taking, in effect, re committed relationships. The difference, of course, is that children weren’t involved in your calculation.”

            O: This is a very interesting statement. Could you please elaborate?

            Thanks!

            O.

            • blackphilo

              Many MC/UMC BW seem to be deciding that if they can’t secure a man that has at least comparable SES and provides copious tingles, they’d rather not opt in to a LTR–an approach popularly known as “not settling.” Apparently, STRs/FWBs, toys, cats, and sistahood are deemed adequate enough LTR replacements. No harm, no foul, if that works for them and doesn’t involve scapegoating BM.

              But quite a few of these women are not opting out of having children, despite the lack of wedlock or its LTR likeness. The strategy, in effect if not consciously, appears to be: have a child via a guy that really turns you on, worry about the long-term ramifications later. If a father/provider type can’t be found after the fact for a LTR, mother and child(ren) will go it alone.

              This strategy isn’t working out very well in general, as far as children are concerned. But choosing either to “settle” or “sit out” does require more discipline.

              • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                @BP:
                Hmm! You’ve laid quite a bit out there on the table, and will require more room than the current discussion will allow for me to properly address it.

                We’ll take this up on Monday…

                Good comment!

                O.

                • blackphilo

                  More simply put: quite a few of the women in question are opting out of a realistic LTR scenario, after having had a kid via their non-committed alpa type.

            • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

        • blackphilo

          testing?

      • h.h.h.

        *taps buzzer repeatedly*

        What is “Questions that Won’t be Answered Today”?

        #VSBJeopardy

        • h.h.h.

          jumpin’ jehosephat, i take it back. O answer’d

          #RealShockAndAwe

          • Sweet GA Brown

            I thought the same thing at first. Lol. H3ll a lot of us probably thought the same that.

        • K. Marie

          Ha! This almost made me spit out my coffee!

      • SweetSass

        *Jumps in the bomb shelter.*

        Call me when the nuclear cloud has lifted.

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

          @Ms. SweetSass:
          Glad you could make it! Just in time. Pull up a chair!

          Yesterday, you, Ms. Charlie and Ms. Shamira was saying that you all knew a slew of Feminists that were s8x positive and absolutely supported the decriminalization/legalization of prostitution, “mail order brides” and the like; my question for all of you is the following:

          Can you name any of these Feminists?

          Thanks in advance!

          O.

          • http://twitter.com/inomallday Shamira

            Hiyo!

            I sent you 2-3 full responses to that request. Please check yesterday’s post at your leisure. Thanks again, and happy friday! :-D

            • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

              @Ms. Shamira;
              Thanks, will do! In the meantime, below I’ve posted a link to a recent piece of mine that has been published giving my take on Mr. Charles Ramsey, his actions, and what they can mean for our society overall. Would love to get your reaction.

              Thanks!

              O.

          • SweetSass

            You’re a boring broken record and I’m done interacting with you.

            • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

              Are you serious?

              *Does Snoopy dance*

              O.

              • camilleblu

                this made me laugh..y’all are nuts…

                • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

                  Peanuts…

                  • http://testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

                    WIP, I love you. I love you so much. lol

        • Todd

          It wasn’t that bad. And it wasn’t a shot fired. I was just trying to tease out his personality…and it worked.

          • Sweet GA Brown

            checkmate

          • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

            LOL. You guys are making this out to be way more complicated than it is or needs to be. I have little problem discussing me, up to a point, of course. For the most part, if you ask, you shall receive…

            O.

    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

      Testing…

      O.

      • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

      In other news, here’s my newest/latest over at The Spearhead:

      Charles Ramsey Proves that it Doesn’t Pay to be a “White Knight”
      http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/05/30/charles-ramsey-proves-that-it-doesnt-pay-to-be-a-white-knight/

      Check it out…

      O.

    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

      Testing…again…

      O.

    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

      @Ms. Shamira:
      OK, it took me a bit of time to plow through the 700+ comments of yesterday’s discussion and the new comment-formatting system here at VSB, but I’ve found your response.

      In sum, you have cited the following names:

      Carol Queen

      Laura María Agustín

      Norma Jean Almodovar

      Feminista Jones

      Let’s consider each of these ladies in turn.

      My central argument yesterday, as it is pretty much everyday, was in favor of STRAIGHT Male S8xuality, as propounded by EvoPsych and more specifically, GAME. I then made the case that Feminism in the main (I freely admit there being notable exceptions but to date, have had trouble locating them) seems to have an interest in regulating STRAIGHT Male S8xuality – we see this in terms of more day to day social interactions between Men and Women, in the arena of “mail order brides” and with regard to the legalization/decriminalization of prostitution. We can also toss in the vehement opposition on the part of Feminists to Roe For Men and as well, Paternity Testing – and to date, virtually every Feminist worth the name, is opposed to GAME.

      So, let’s see how the ladies mentioned above measure up along these lines, shall we?

      Ms. Carol Queen’s Wikipedia page, says in part, the following:

      “Carol Queen is an American author, editor, sociologist and s*xologist active in the s*x-positive feminism movement. Queen has written on human sexuality in books such as Real Live Nude Girl: Chronicles of S*x-Positive Culture. She has written a s*x tutorial, Exhibitionism for the Shy: Show Off, Dress Up and Talk Hot, as well as erotica, such as the novel The Leather Daddy and the Femme. Queen has produced adult movies, events, workshops and lectures. Queen was featured as an instructor and star in both installments of the Bend Over Boyfriend series about female-to-male @nal sex, or pegging. She has also served as editor for compilations and anthologies. She is a s*x-positive sex educator in the United States.”

      Hmm. This does NOT seem to address the key concerns I gave voice to in yesterday’s discussion.

      Let’s see what, if anything Ms. Maggie McNeill, who runs The Honest Courtesan blog, has to say about Ms. Queen…

      …I’m coming up with a blank.

      Next, let’s see what Google gives us for the search terms “mandatory paternity testing” and Carol Queen…

      …and again, nada.

      OK, what about legalized prostitution?

      Googling…

      Ah! Here we are – Wikipedia has an article on the matter: “Feminist views on Prostitution”. Let’s scan the piece to see what Ms. Queen has to say…

      “An important argument advanced by pro-s*x work feminists such as Carol Queen highlights that all too often feminists who are critical of prostitution have failed to adequately consider the viewpoints of women who are themselves engaged in s*x work, choosing instead to base their arguments in theory and outdated experiences.”

      The same article cites Ms. Queen as being in support of s8x worker’s rights, and also mentions Ms. Almodovar and Ms. Agustin.

      Running a Google search for “Roe For Men” and Ms. Queen’s name returned no results.

      Finally, let’s see what Google gives us for her name, and the search terms “Pickup, Game, PUA”…

      …and I’m getting back zero results.

      Hence, based on this evidence, there is little reason to suspect that Ms. Queen is in support of the issues to which I have raised yesterday, and have reiterated today.

      Let’s examine the rest of the names on your list, next…

      O.

      • http://twitter.com/inomallday Shamira

        Sir, don’t do this. I was directly responding to your claim that we didn’t know public feminist figures that were pro-prostitution. You even wrote that in your initial challenge!!!!

        “you all knew a slew of Feminists that were s8x positive and absolutely supported the decriminalization/legalization of prostitution” <–today's challenge

        "Legalizing/decriminalizing Prostitution would solve a great many of the world’s problems; unfortunately, the Feminist Lobby and their Social Conservative allies, stand in the way of this most sensible solution to a longstanding problem…" <– the comment yesterday that I directly responded to.

        and now because I didn't find people that were pro EvoPsych, they don't count? That is not the focal point of all heternormative interactions, at least not from my perspective. But regardless, you can't continue to change parameter to suit your needs. It's very frustrating.

        Have a great weekend, O. :-D

        • http://testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

          O_O Well snap!

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

          @Ms. Shamira:
          If anyone is being less than honest about that which they are addressing, it is YOU, I’m afraid. Because I made those statements *within a very particular context*, AND YOU KNEW IT.

          Now, if you like, I can stop the examination of the names you have given me, on the grounds that we both know that they are at the least MIA on the plethora of items I specifically outlined yesterday. None of that has changed today.

          And therefore, my point stands.

          You have a great weekend, too! :)

          O.

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

          @Ms. Shamira:
          “and now because I didn’t find people that were pro EvoPsych, they don’t count?”

          O: Don’t be silly; of course not. One doesn’t have to be well versed in the discipline to be a supporter of the right of Men to seek the relationships they desire; and I find your statement fascinating, since the Feminist websites in particular don’t seem to let their rank ignorance of EvoPsych get in the way of demonizing Pickup every chance they get…

          “That is not the focal point of all heternormative interactions, at least not from my perspective.”

          O: But that’s just it – we are not talking about YOUR perspective, now are we? We are addressing a very particular set of concerns. I find the evidence you have presented on that score, to be less than convincing.

          B”ut regardless, you can’t continue to change parameter to suit your needs. It’s very frustrating.”

          O: I have done no such thing; yesterday, I mentioned all the things I am discussing, right now. And again, it bears repeating, that the early investigative results of the names you have offered in that regard, have been less than stellar.

          I’m just sayin’…

          O.

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

      • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

        @Ms. Shamira:
        You mentioned Jezebel, Feministing and Feministe as being popular s8x positive websites and blogs; my response to that assertion, is that much depends on what one would define as “s8x positive”; per my researches of all three forums in question, none of them look favorably upon the issues of mandatory paternity testing, Roe For Men, legalizing of prostitution services for the express benefit of straight Men, and all of the aforementioned forums/venues are harsh, bitter critics of Game. Examples of all that I am saying here are easily found via Google search.

        More, coming up…

        O.

      • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

        @Ms. Shamira:
        I actually am familiar with Ms. Feminista Jones, and have been quietly reviewing her works in as many months; much of it is of the “alt” fare that seems to be part and parcel of the s8x positive Feminism scene, and doesn’t touch on any of the items in any meaningful way, if at all, that I have outlined here and elsewhere on the regular for the better part of several years at this point.

        Having said that, she does do some interesting videos…

        O.

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

  • http://learninglover.com AfterMath

    5. (Big) Mike from the Wood
    Another example of a laid back guy who had to adjust to new settings when he moved away. Plus he was just a laid back guy…..and he couldn’t dance.

    4. Will Smith (Fresh Prince)
    In more ways than one, this dude was really the story of my life. But I’ll just focus on today, as I’m the “Black” guy in an IT field, its similar to him being a Philly guy in LA, just that getting used to a new environment.

    3. Carlton (Fresh Prince)
    I’ve got a really nerdy side that actually enjoys learning new stuff and isn’t ashamed to talk about that stuff. Sometimes it leads to awkward situations like bringing a novel to a happy hour or not being able to join the conversation about the latest pop star craze because I’m just not into that stuff or trying to find people to talk with about stuff like the God Particle. But as I grow older, I can really relate to Carlton. I feel like he was the perfect balance of being nerdy but self confident (as opposed to most nerds on TV at the time).

    2. Zack Morris (Saved by the Bell)
    I kinda patterned a lot of my early self after him. He always had a scheme to get out of trouble and work things out. That’s very similar to how I operated then and analyzing things, a bit how I operate now. Given, I don’t have the backing of Hollywood to give me unlimited access to the things he had, but I make due

    1. Z from (Antz)
    This dude. “I’m supposed to do everything for the colony. What about my needs?” I mean that really describes how I feel about work in general and some of my previous jobs. I mean Z’s unintended rebellion against society and then doing things his own way should be an inspiration to anyone out there thinking of bucking trends and starting their own business or just doing things their own way. I just love this character and this movie

    • Malik

      You’re neurotic and jewish?

  • http://www.TheNewEve.com Bunni

    hmmmmm:
    Denise Huxtable- Cuz frankly, i’m a lost soul, idk wtf I wanna do in this world (i figure it out as i go along), which is a springboard for the next character….
    Lynn Searcy from Girlfriends- That whole sexually adventurous, lifetime student, partially vegan, tattoos in risque places, unwavering attraction to all things art—yep, thats me. And on the same note….
    Joan Clayton from Girlfriends- Socially awkward, HUGE HAIR, a stickler for planning parties and celebrating EVERY holiday (Happy Flag Day heaux!!)
    Elle Woods from Legally Blonde- I’m deceptively brilliant. Dont let the polka dot tights and pink lipstick fool you…I got my masters, and my master’s masters :-)
    Steve Stifler from American Pie- I’m a bit of an a**hole. And if I had a peen, I’d prob stick it in errthang. Seriously, I’m Chester the Molester lol. And my mom is hot lol

    • Todd

      Your mom is hetero right? Interesting… :)

      • http://www.TheNewEve.com Bunni

        nope, my mama is gayer than I am…
        in fact, I’m sure my dad has a severe complex about all of this:
        -My mom left him for her current wife
        -My baby brother’s mom left him for her current wife
        -I didnt leave him (im a daddy’s girl thru and thru), but hes not the most excited about my bisexuality.

        …things that make you go hmmm.

        • camilleblu

          lol…
          “nope, my mama is gayer than I am”

          just kilt me….

        • Todd

          I’m not saying it’s right, but considering his track record, you at least understand his reticence. Sapphic love has usually meant an empty home for him. Though I wonder what about him has brought women like your mom into his life. Very interesting…

      • camilleblu

        ..

    • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

      Denise & Lynn for tha win ~*~ love them !

    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

      I love Joan. She was my favorite.

    • Malik

      carefree black girl

      • http://www.TheNewEve.com Bunni

        I’m puerto rican, but yep, carefree is the name of the game :-)

        • Malik

          LatiNegra! We need more at VSB.

          • http://www.TheNewEve.com Bunni

            Im 100% Boricua….both of my parents are imports straight from Bayamon :-)

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          But, being a Boriqua and Black are not mutually exclusive, right?

          • Malik

            Well I’m Black and Panamanian, Yoles is Black and Cuban, Maris is Latina (can’t remember where) and Black, and Gem is Mexican and Black.

        • Asiyah

          Holla. I’m half Puerto Rican. Let’s boogie!

          • http://www.TheNewEve.com Bunni

            Pa que sepas!!!

  • http://thejahfiles.blogspot.com/ B. Brown

    Shoot, this is going to be hard. I’ll try, though.

    1) Dwayne Wayne, A Different World: good at math (and taught it for a little while), turned the corner from being slightly geeky to extremely confident, knows how to talk trash when needed

    2) Bruce Wayne, Dark Knight Trilogy: misunderstood, complex, wears his entire life on his sleeve, willing to take losses for the good of the team

    3) Captain America: skinny guy who’s not quite as skinny anymore, good-hearted to a fault (see: Avengers), believes in the country’s ideals…I just don’t believe in the execution re: those ideals right now

    4) Kanye West: A little versatile, a little off, seen by some as being full of himself sometimes, the guy who was behind the scenes for a bit and saw his talent before others did

    5) T.I.: from the south, will make a dumb decision every now and again (thankfully, mine have had far less consequence), still walking the path to become the best person he can be – and not really caring who’s there at the end of the trip

    Alright, now I must get ready for work…while watching Heat highlights.

    • Shalonda282

      Right I almost died watching the game last night. LeBron, Haslem, and Andersen were the only ones who came to ball. I don’t know what to say about the rest of those cats. I can’t wait for Saturday so we can finish this.

  • Sigma_Since 93

    Roland Clifford (Cruel Intentions) I was that token negro in the class on 1991.

    Malik Williams (Higher Learning) I’m bout dat track life.

    Marty Kahn (House of Lies) only with more of a moral code.

    Sean Nelson (The Wood) that was me and my boys when we were growing up

    Zakee L. Howze (Young Bleek / Mo’Betta Blues) I hated that my mom wouldn’t let me go outside until I’d completed my necessary reading and book reports. That whole scene at the window where his boys were calling him out played out daily over the summer and winter vacations.

  • http://learninglover.com AfterMath

    5. (Big) Mike from the Wood
    Another example of a laid back guy who had to adjust to new settings when he moved away. Plus he was just a laid back guy…..and he couldn’t dance.

    4. Will Smith (Fresh Prince)
    In more ways than one, this dude was really the story of my life. But I’ll just focus on today, as I’m the “Black” guy in an IT field, its similar to him being a Philly guy in LA, just that getting used to a new environment.

    3. Carlton (Fresh Prince)
    I’ve got a really nerdy side that actually enjoys learning new stuff and isn’t ashamed to talk about that stuff. Sometimes it leads to awkward situations like bringing a novel to a happy hour or not being able to join the conversation about the latest pop star craze because I’m just not into that stuff or trying to find people to talk with about stuff like the God Particle. But as I grow older, I can really relate to Carlton. I feel like he was the perfect balance of being nerdy but self confident (as opposed to most nerds on TV at the time).

    2. Zack Morris (Saved by the Bell)
    I kinda patterned a lot of my early self after him. He always had a scheme to get out of trouble and work things out. That’s very similar to how I operated then and analyzing things, a bit how I operate now. Given, I don’t have the backing of Hollywood to give me unlimited access to the things he had, but I make due

    1. Z from (Antz)
    This dude. “I’m supposed to do everything for the colony. What about my needs?” I mean that really describes how I feel about work in general and some of my previous jobs. I mean Z’s unintended rebellion against society and then doing things his own way should be an inspiration to anyone out there thinking of bucking trends and starting their own business or just doing things their own way. I just love this character and this movie