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White People Shit That Black People (Not So) Secretly Love

White People Shit.

It’s the semi-pejorative term Black folks use to describe items, actions, and ideas that fall outside of the negro-normative spectrum, preponderantly enjoyed by our Caucasian counterparts.

Seinfeld.

Mayonnaise.

Toby Keith’s I Love This Bar & Grill.

Calling the police.

All things that seemingly exist as the exclusive domain of white people and feel somewhat out of place when juxtaposed with abject negritude.  But let’s be real, everyone’s Blackness has boundaries and even the hardest of Hoteps and the 1% of the 5%ers have some kind of appreciation for some facets of the Eurocentric lifestyle.

(Don’t front, you know all the words to “Sweet Caroline” too.)   [Editor’s Note: This is not true. I have no idea what any of the words to “Sweet Caroline” are except for the words “sweet” and “Caroline.” Honestly, I have no clue what the song is even about or who sings it. I’m Black in public. – PJ]

This is a simple attempt to start cataloging those white things that we kinda sorta really really dig.

Running 5Ks

There was once a time when, if you saw a group of black folks running, you ran too based on instinct and fear.  Like, Cali Weekend in Atlanta used to have fliers for parties that said, 8pm-Black Folk Start Running Away.  Running as a survival mechanism is a thing ingrained in our collective psyche.  And sure, Black folks have been among the world’s best sprinters and marathon runners and hurdlers and the like, but that’s also running for a reason.  You know, a medal and/or some money.

Running for fun, however, totally white people shit.

I mean, how you gonna tell Black folks to wake up at 6am on a Saturday, go outside, and run for no goddamn reason other than to get a commemorative t-shirt and maybe come hot chocolate, right?  Wrong.  Apparently we just got the memo late and now we out here forming groups like Black Girls Run and shit hitting these streets just running for the fuck of it.

We run now.  It’s a thing.  For health.  I dig it.

Ridiculousness with Rob Dyrdek

White people don’t know this, but Black folks love watching them get hurt doing shit we’d probably get arrested (or killed) for doing.  For real, watching white people experience instant karma is cathartic as shit.

Phil Collins

Really, you could swap out Phil Collins for Wham, Duran Duran, Kenny Loggins, David Lee Roth, Cindy Lauper, Pat Benetar, Culture Club, Men At Work, Toto or just about any artist prominently featured on Friday Night Videos in the early 80’s.

I mention Phil here for two reasons.  One, the man is whiter than the driven snow.  I mean, he doesn’t even have lips.  Even when Phil was the man, he looked like a chemistry teacher or what would happen if a Chrysler K-Car assumed human form.  I also bring him up because the other night I was at a taco joint full of black people in an Irish neighborhood in Chicago (that, by itself, could be a punchline) when “In the Air Tonight” came on the Pandora and, well, the drum part.

Let’s be clear, I don’t care who you are, where you are, what you’re doing, or who you’re doing it with, when the drums kick in on “In the Air Tonight” you better grab your invisible sticks and bang the fuck out.  You wanna know who’s cool in your circle of friends?  Put that song on and whoever don’t go in on the drums is the Judas of your crew.  The “In the Air Tonight” drums are that powerful and although they weren’t made by us, they were clearly made for us.

Yankee Candles

Black folks love scented shit.  Black folks love Cadillacs.  Yankee Candles are the Cadillacs of scented shit.  Black folks love Yankee Candles.  The only time Black people get down with pumpkin spice is if it’s a Yankee Candle because they just go hard like that.

The Dukes of Hazzard

These white boys lived the life.  They ain’t have no jobs, they had a sweet ass ride, they ran from the cops, and they busted out of jail every goddamn week.  If the General Lee had a Kicker box in the trunk and a sack of loud in the glovebox, throw some doo rags on ‘em and Bo and Luke Duke could’ve got signed to Def Jam Records.  I’d even wager to say there’s at least 74 brothas in jail right now after trying to emulate them Duke boys.

Someday the mountain might get’em, but the law never will.

Philadelphia Cream Cheese

Your aunt’s been sneaking that shit into her macaroni since 1981.

Ellen DeGeneres

Yeah, yeah, yeah.  You can front all you want on her, but if Ellen called you up tomorrow and asked you if you wanted to hang out, you’d want to kick it with Ellen.  You’d probably go to a store, scare some people, do a stupid dance, cry, and lose all your street cred in the process, but Ellen is just the kinda white people that Black people like hanging out with.  Ask the Obamas.

Jerry McGuire

You had me at hello.

Statistics show that 93% of Black people who initially saw this movie did so under the false assumption that it was about a shit talking football star bullying his agent around for about an hour and a half.  Little did we know that we were being sucked into the Vanilla Vortex of a white rom-com bookended by pre-couch hopping Tom Cruise and Rene Fucking Zellweger (yeah, Bridget Fucking Jones) with only a splattering on Cuba Gooding Jr. and Regina King to keep us satiated.

But we love that shit.

Don’t believe me?  Next time you got some Black folks over at the crib for game night or a cookout or Kwanzaa and you’re looking for some entertainment for the evening, offer them three movies; Belly, The Wood, or Jerry McGuire and I promise you that Jerry McGuire’s gonna get watched first.  BET could play it on a random ass Tuesday night and it would get real ratings.

The only other white movie I can think of that gets hood love like that for no reason is The Princess Bride and, maybe, Shawshank Redemption but even that’s got Morgan Freeman in it, so it might not fully count.

Honorable Mention

St. Patrick’s Day

Not because we like being out in that shit, but because it’s the one day when you get to see the cops bullyfoot on drunk white people.  It’s the one day the beast takes its unyielding gaze off us and focuses on the other side of town.  It’s the one day when the hood gets to relax.

 

Corey Richardson

Corey Richardson is originally from Newport News, Virginia currently living in Chicago, Illinois with his wife and two daughters. Ad guy at work, Dad guy in life, and whiskey enthusiast, Corey spends his time crafting words, telling bedtime stories, and working hard at becoming the legend he is in his own mind. You can read his paternal musings at FatherlyNoir.com where he chronicles his life doing battle with all of the women with his last name.

  • Other_guy13

    I’m here for the following:
    Ridiculousness
    Phil Collins
    St Patty’s day (Cuz Savannah)
    5k’s

    The rest of this list is pure foolishness.

    • Mr. Mooggyy

      I gotta get down to Savannah for ST. Patty’s day!

      • Other_guy13

        OMG it’s the best cluster f$#k to experience. I will miss it this year but I’m going down there the following week. I just can’t do a bunch of drunk yt republicans this year.

        • kingpinenut

          “I just can’t do a bunch of drunk yt ever”

      • B-Dot Willz

        My birthday is on St. Patrick’s Day but I am too afraid of the regular people to dudebro ratio to go to Savannah.

  • Brown Rose

    Mayonnaise is the third rail. There is no reason a condiment should look like phlegm. But hiking, biking, running and being in the woods is absolutely all right.

    • kingpinenut

      Nature is a black thing in my book. We don’t do nature in the USA cause white folks stay shootin at us.

    • panamajackson

      I feel the same way about cauliflower. I don’t trust white to opaque vegetables.

      • Courtney Wheeler

        Ever had buffalo cauliflower? Amazing…but it’s fried so ya know its hard to hate anything fried.

        • panamajackson

          No. A hundred times no.

        • Ess Tee

          I’ve heard of cauliflower “wings” but, like, that don’t make no sense to me.

        • PhlyyPhree

          I LOVE buffalo cauliflower. I had some in Chicago that changed my entire life. I’ve been trying to replicate that recipe for a while now and still can’t get my batter right. Le sigh.

      • Brown Rose

        The viscosity and color of certain dairy can also be problematic. What message can we glean from cottage cheese?

      • Val

        How about yellow or purple cauliflower?

      • I am dying at this comment ???????? so PJ you only do translucent vegetables?

    • Val

      I haven’t had mayo in years but I will put some Miracle Whip on a sammich.

      • PhlyyPhree

        Ughhhh. I prefer mayo over Miracle Whip. Nothing miraculous about that ish to me.

        • Val

          Miracle Whip is the joint. :-)

          • PhlyyPhree

            I can’t. I used to when I was younger, but then I grew up and had Hellman’s on a chickfila sandwich and couldn’t go back.
            Nowadays, I use vegannaise so I’m not sure there’s much difference though.

      • Brown Rose

        Miracle Whip? Sacrilegious Val. What the heck is in that? ketchup?

        • Val

          Ketchup? Huh? Lol

  • Courtney Wheeler

    We also love guacamole….and Fleetwood Mac. THANKS WHITE PEOPLE..

    PS…We also love Hall and Oates….buuuut one can make a case that we consider that black..
    hmmm
    https://media.tenor.co/images/a8d5235491432f51c9d32db3bae0941f/raw

  • kingpinenut

    Bein a car nut, I’m guilty of likin the General Lee….

    The rest of the list….nah.

    Edit: Some Phil Collins joint mess with me :/

  • KNeale

    I was ready for this because there is plenty of stuff that I like that is often categorized as “white”. Which I know a lot of us do but only some of us are confident enough to live their truth. But then you went and listed almost all the things I don’t like. Lol. These are not my white things!

    P.s. I am trying to start running 5ks because I’m trying to start a physical activity that is good for you, can be done anywhere, and is somewhat natural to do. (Don’t want a gym dependent body). But stuff is always coming up and knocking me off my training regimen.

  • Other_guy13

    I have a thing for Indie rock….well…really all rock. Currently jamming to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_JU1OD-OLU

    • Courtney Wheeler

      I love me some indie rock…well i love punk as so whatevs

      • Other_guy13

        It just gets me going. Somehow puts me in the best moods.

    • KNeale

      Give some suggestions!! Just in general my music taste spans all genres (which I think is true for a lot of black folks because we’re musical people but we not allowed to freely listen to experimental folk in the car…even though its our music!).

      • Other_guy13

        Rock or just in general?

        • KNeale

          Any and all things. Love finding new music.

          • Other_guy13

            Artist to check out
            Silver Sun Pickups
            Dead Mau5
            Broken Bells
            Alabama Shakes
            Blue Foundation (Eyes on fire is the only song I like)
            Billy Squier (in the Dark)
            Clarina Round (For every thing a reason)
            Breaking Benjamin
            Cage the Elephant (Cigarette Daydreams)
            Death Cab for Cutie (Soul Meets body)
            Emily King
            Florence and the Machine
            Foreinger
            Glass Animals
            The Internet
            Kenny Loggins
            Lindsey Stirling
            Miloh Smith
            Ben Howard (oats in the water)
            Fink (Warm Shadow)
            Manchester Orchestra (Top Notch)

            • fedup

              Ditto three times for Florence and the Machine. They put on a fantastic show!

              Fink is really slept on. My favorite is Perfect Darkness.

              • Mary Burrell

                I love how she flails around on the stage i wonder if she was a dancer because it looks like she’s doing modern or interpretive dance.When she’s singing The Dog Days Are Over. I like her.

            • Mary Burrell

              Glass Animals and Death Cab For Cutie are some of favorites as well as Florence and The Machine Alabama Shakes are cool too.

            • B-Dot Willz

              Emily King is often slept on.

              • Other_guy13

                True…saw her and PJ. Morton in concert last year…worth the standing room only situation lol

                • B-Dot Willz

                  Cool where did you see them?

                  • Other_guy13

                    Atlanta Center Stage if I remember correctly.

            • KCG

              I can appreciate this list sir.

              • Other_guy13

                I try

          • Mary Burrell

            Me too

  • Philadelphia Cream Cheese (vegetable)on a bagel…but in macaroni?! You must dont love your Jesus.

    Fuck saint patricks day. Next fool holding up traffic (cause, work), sticking his green painted, drunk azz face in folks windows yellin “woooooooo!!”
    catching skid marks across his Air Shamrocks.
    Man. I love me some ridiculousness, right up until “rob n’ big” fell out…
    https://youtu.be/pxjjvlFRNT4

  • Val

    Want to talk about Black folks loving White folks stuff: I liked Phil Collins better when he was with Genesis. How about them apples.

    • kingpinenut

      *spits out coffee*

      Val, you aight lol

    • Other_guy13
      • Val
        • Cheech

          That was a friend’s wedding song. First of our crew to get married; first to get divorced.

        • Looking4Treble

          My favorite Phil Collins song (ITAT is in a class by itself) is ‘Another Day In Paradise’. I can see that lady on the street when he sings it.

      • Ten upvotes.

    • cyanic
      • kingpinenut

        How you gonna make a ninja cry…. :/

      • miss t-lee

        This is forever my jam.

      • Extra upvotes.

    • Brown Rose

      *raises hand*…But then I really liked 80’s music…*looks at battered Black card*.

      • Looking4Treble

        I grew up in the 80’s. Best decade for music IMHO. I certify that your Black Card is still intact.

      • MaiB

        You are safe

    • miss t-lee

      Me too Val, me too.

      • kingpinenut

        lmbaoooooo

    • Cheech

      I saw Genesis back then, and they had a second drummer doing the work while Phil stepped out. A Black man. (Chester.)

  • You need to give Hall and Oates its own entry. I know it’s supposed to be covered under the Phil Collins joint, but they are Black America’s Favorite White Band. They’ve had multiple #1 R&B hits, with zero features. They’ve wrote for Philadelphia International Records. They even went to Temple, which is the Blackest PWI in America. Come on, man! Give them their props.

    Also, I have a funny story. I was talking to a White acquaintance about a (Black) former girlfriend of mine which we both knew. He tried to bring up her love of Hall and Oates as a sign of how White she can be, and I nearly spit out my beer. Like Hall and Oates could headline Essence Fest, and even the hoteps would just shrug it off. LOL

    And I wanna get with the Black running groups. The post-running parties look lit, and you know the women are in decent shape if they can run a 5k…for reasons. LOL

    • You dead right ’bout Hall and Oates. They headlined here one 4th of July with some of the Blackest groups ever.

      In a thunderstorm.
      Nobody left.
      Hardly anyone had umbrellas.
      Headlined.

      • I believe you. I don’t know how they managed to get that status, but it’s amazing that they’ve pulled it off. That’s talent that you can cross over without actively trying to do so.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccenFp_3kq8

        • Mary Burrell

          Yes and Amen to Hall&Oates

        • kneelbeforetigers

          I can tell you: Sara Smile. He brought that soul so deep, aunties and uncs ARGUED LOUDLY that the singer was 200% a brotha.

        • Kat

          Cause most folks thought they were black. Some still do. Ask around.

          • I can kinda see Oates with the curly hair, but Hall? Really? Dude is Aryan looking. LOL

            • Kat

              Before video’s. Ya’ll assuming everyone had MTV back then. Nope.

            • Cheech

              He’s got a great cable show now. Has concerts in his living room in upstate NY.
              I’ve only seen one, but apparently they’re all really good (different honored guest each time).

              • SororSalsa

                The one with Cee Lo was very good. He sang my jam (One on One). Daryl Hall is struggling to hit those notes now, so he has guests come in and do it for him.

          • cakes_and_pies

            My Aunt thought Box Scaggs was Black until last year. She’s 60.

            • “M”

              It’s that Dirty Low Down song that did it!

              hahahahahaha

            • Mary Burrell

              Boz Scaggs and that dirty Low Down.

              • Cheech

                Lido missed the boat that day ….

                • Mary Burrell

                  Lido is slept on.

            • Lady Legasus

              Y’all gotta see the Dukes of September show. It’s Michael McDonald, Boz Scaggs and Donald Fagen. For those who don’t know Donald Fagen is half if Steely Dan who could be on this list too. It is a baaaaddddd show man! And it’s a smooth at least 2 1/2 hour show. No breaks! They’ve been touring together for the past 4-5 years. Worth it!

              • cakes_and_pies

                That sounds like a good concert to me!

              • Cheech

                It kills me I missed that show. I’ve been looking for it. (I thought they only did it that one year?)

                • Lady Legasus

                  I know that they have done it for at least 3 years here in NYC. I’ve seen it twice and met Donald Fagen while we were both getting MRIs.

                  • Cheech

                    Ha! I love random celebrity encounters. I ran into Smokey Robinson in the Southwest curbside checkin line at McCarran.

            • The Lowdown…lol because he used black background singers.

            • SororSalsa

              Boz Scaggs and Bobby Caldwell.

        • Sassypants

          That groove is still good.

        • stacius

          Did you know their bass player was on Kurtis Blow’s “The Breaks?”

        • TheUnsungStoryteller

          MY JAMMM!!! I wasn’t even born in the 80s, but I grew up with this music. And I love it.

        • BrothasKeeper

          Hall & Oates made one of the coldest slow jams ever:

          https://youtu.be/qsxa8d9Tp9s

          • Coco Fiere

            My fave! I have loved them since I was around 5 or 6 years old because of that song. They used to play it on WJPC (Chicago) all the time. I’ve heard them live once but they’re coming to town, with Tears for Fears, in the spring and I’m amped.

          • Rory ‘underconstruction’ James

            This song is my jam…

        • Chinny

          I was just thinking about this group two days ago! Their music is timeless. But who’s the dude on sax? Never noticed him and he dances better than Hall and Oates combined!

          • Shanna

            That’s G.E.Smith. He also led the house band on SNL years ago.

      • Frances Ellison

        I was at that show and it was legit life changing

        • I was under a tarp, lookin like the U.N.
          You wanna get under the tarp, grab a edge. End of the show, it was Black, white, Asian, errbody, lol.
          (Prolly you, kidding)

      • TheUnsungStoryteller

        That’s the only way to listen to Hall & Oates. In a thunderstorm. Sounds awesome.

    • cheddachasa

      Not all of the women running 5k’s or even longer distances are in decent shape. Trust me on this one.

      • How Sway? Like a 5K is exercise. What are they eating in the interim to mess that up?

        • PhlyyPhree

          Everything.
          Found out the hard way that you can do all the cardio you want to, but if you’re not including strength training and watching your caloric intake, all you have is a bunch of flab that can jiggle for 3.1 miles.
          I mean, shell have stamina….but….yea…

          • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

            You can not out exercise bad caloric intake past the age of 22.

            • PhlyyPhree

              Unfortunately.
              Sigh

            • KNeale

              something I’m learning now! Lol.

            • THIS!!!! I’m doing a 90 Day Challenge and at 42…. maaaaaan, listen. I can’t just work out extra… I have to post the 30 day results.. this was day 1… please don’t laugh at my lack of hips.. ????https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/83f5c986d1dba1a1fb0bfaf24797bc6a538dea5549d85c9731c04b605c783f75.jpg

              • Janelle Doe

                90 day challenge? Wow. Please keep us updated. I tried a 30 day challenge and got a cold on day 15 and didnt have the will to keep going or start fresh. I might try it again now that I see this
                Squadgoals

                • I need motivation..DO IT WITH ME.. I’m gonna post the 30 day shot some time this week…I have to get this ayus in order..lol

                  • Janelle Doe

                    Lol, ok lemme go google before I commit. Thanks in advance for the updates!

                • “M”

                  You have to make sure you hydrate, seriously. Ree and Vee aren’t just doing G2 and Powerade commercials for the money. You have to make sure you have enough electrolytes for both your workouts and your immune system, which means you need more.

              • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

                Look at you with the curve to the onion.

                • It’s a blessing and a curse. Lmao

                  • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

                    A curse? How sway?

                  • Looking4Treble

                    Hail to the curves! #SistasGotItOnLock

              • BrothasKeeper
              • BrownKitty289

                I am actually noticing ya’ll chicks w/ no hips…
                Ya’ll got sum action in the back! ;)
                #GoGirl

        • cheddachasa

          Don’t get me wrong, you’ll find plenty of women in great shape but many of them are still on their journey to improved fitness. Then you have the folks who can’t outrun their bad eating habits. It all depends on the level of fitness they started with.

          • “M”

            And that includes both boys AND girls. I will never forget the group side-eye we gave Jason Whitlock for trying to call Serena out of shape before 2009 Wimbledon.

            I was like “Boy, when was the last time you even saw a scale??”

            • Mary Burrell

              Jason Whitlock is such a sellout. He needs to be thrown in “the sunken place ” and never let out.

              • “M”

                LOL. Way harsh, Tai
                =)

      • Shady.

        • Kat

          Wasn’t he

        • “M”

          muy shady

      • Penelope

        You had to say sumthin didnja.

      • Zurily

        We do a 5K every month but don’t exercise in between. At least I don’t. I want to… I tell myself I’m going to go for a run after work but I’m tired from Daylight Savings and it’s 39 degrees in Atlanta this week and I still gottalk make that grocery run… and…. and…

    • Roz

      I just posted this! Probably should have read down but yeah, Hall & Oates is it.

    • Val

      If you’re Black it’s definitely best to run in a group.

    • Cheech

      I know, but I totally don’t get it. “Philly Soul.” How?

      • Because they are freaking magicians? I don’t know. But Hall and Oates has somehow settled into the Black Music Canon.

    • MilaXX

      Hall & Oates one of the OG’s of Blue eyed soul.

      • TheUnsungStoryteller

        And they were TRUE Blue Eyed Soul.

    • Maxine Shaw

      Hall and Oates might be top three. Average White Band tops them easily, followed closely by the Bee Gees.

      • Average White Band over Hall and Oates? Really? Wow…

        • Dream Deferred

          Yeah…no. AWB not > Hall & Oates

      • Maybe the Bee Gees but AWB is a firm no. Lol

        • BrothasKeeper

          AWB brought it! You should reconsider.

      • Richelle Payne

        Most def AWB, Teena and Chicago too. They are original blue eyed soul, like The Righteous Brothers…betta ask your Pops! #bluelightinthebasement

        • I love “Chicago”.

        • kneelbeforetigers

          Peter Cetera and those horns whaaaaaat

          • Mel

            YAASSSSS!!!

        • ourdayiscoming

          Teena Marie don’t count she IS Black and I’ll fight anyone who says otherwise.lol

          • Richelle Payne

            RIGHT!!!

        • Nik White

          My cousin and I went to a Chicago & EWF concert…folks were tripping because we knew alll the songs.

      • TheUnsungStoryteller

        Do Black People like Bon Jovi and the Red Hot Chili Peppers?

        • FeeFee

          I’d say No! That one is a negative.

          • TheUnsungStoryteller

            Awwwww…

            • Mary Burrell

              I like them maybe in the minority. And I will throw in John Mayer.

              • Looking4Treble

                John Mayer’s music is tight, but as I understand it, he is a racist, so I can’t cosign him.

                • kneelbeforetigers

                  … or at least his penis is, as he so famously swore.

        • Basil Malik

          Red Hot Chili Peppers… defintely but not in this context.

          • orchid921

            I love love LOVE the Chili Peppers’ cover of “Higher Ground.” Yes, I know my black card is under review until further notice. :)

            • Basil Malik

              Noooo not at all.. .RHCP are the ish it’s just their music isn’t transcending like Hall and Oates. It’s sort of like the movie “True Romance” Most black folk don’t know it exists because of the title but if they watch it, it’s on their top ten movie list.

            • Shanna

              The song goes hard

        • Gibbous

          I do (did) like the White Hot Chili Peppers. I’ve also sported a TWA my entire life and never went for bands whose members had SO much more hair than I did.

          • “M”

            give it away give it away give it away now

            =D

        • Mary Burrell

          I have to walk the hall of shame and admit I like Bon Jovi and Red Hot Chilli Peppers aren’t bad, I listen to them on Pandora from time to time.

          • Nik White

            No shame Mary….we have broad musical taste.

        • Skmart72

          YES!!!!!! #SlipperyWhenWet was the ish when I was in high school!!

        • Zurily

          I LOVE me some Bon Jovi! Love em. But even when I was going to school in Philly I could only find a few other Black Bon Jovi lovers. So I’d say it’s not on the same level as Hall and Oates. On the other hand, I’m just learning from THIS THREAD that “Smile Sara” is not performed Black puerile.

        • MilaXX

          I think Bon Jovi gets more of a pass than RHCP, mainly because Jon Bon Jovi is bae

          • Shanna

            Anthony Keidis was bae too, but I get your point.

        • Coco Fiere

          Yes! Let “Living on a Prayer” or “Give It Away” come on and watch folks scream all the lyrics like they’re at karaoke night.

        • Nik White

          Chili Peppers yes!

        • KCG

          *meekly raises hand* I like Red Hot Chili Peppers. ?I don’t ever wanna feeeeeel, like I did that day?

          • TheUnsungStoryteller

            Yassss!!!!

        • Maxine Shaw

          Not any that I know. :)

      • “M”

        AWB very funky

        :-)

    • KNeale

      Temple ALUM and can confirm that it is the blackest PWI in America! Lmao!! (Or at least it used to be, anyone still in Philly please confirm if this is still true).

      • Sweet Potato Kai ?

        Still true

      • Numbah5

        TU grad here, class of 1996…They did some upgrades but still black AF cause Norf Philly…

      • Trill Mickelson

        It’s dwindling. It’s like 12% Black now. I know several TU alums from the late 90s/early 2000s and I think it was around 20-25% when they were there.

        • KNeale

          I graduated 2011 (yes, young, I know) and it was close to 20% when I was there. As a senior I remember the freshman class was noticeably whiter. And they’ve done so much additions to the campus and I heard they were trying to rename that part of North Philly “Temple North” and I will personally show up with signs protesting because…no! I’m not even from Philly and am not there now but…no! It just looks like a different world now. But 12% black is pretty good comparatively. Most schools have less than 12% of all POC combined.

          • Trill Mickelson

            That campus looks COMPLETELY different than it did in the early 2000s. I’m not from Philly either or go up there as often as I used to, but when I go with the TU folks I know, they’re just like wtf… But yeah, 12% is still pretty high for a PWI — my school was probably 6-7% and I graduated in 2010, so…

            • Jae Starz

              The changes to and around campus are insane! So far from the place that made my mom promise me that I wouldn’t leave campus…ever!

      • Kullervo

        I went there a few years ago and the gentrification is getting out of hand.

      • MilaXX

        TU alum represent!

      • Honeybrown1976

        Temple grad here. Class of 1999. It was then. I’m not sure now.

    • Sassypants

      Hall & Oates have permanent hood passes. They performed at the Apollo with members of the temptations and did a live recording of it. They’ve always gave credit to black artists. They are a few notches below Teena Marie (RIP), she was the original sistas from another mister. She always identified with R&B, unlike the ones today who dabble in the r&b hood and go home to the pop suburbs to save face with their mainstream fans (JT, Christina in her X-Tina phase, etc.).

      • thasamiam

        “…unlike the ones today who dabble in the r&b hood and go home to the pop suburbs to save face with their mainstream fans.” THIS is why I was leery of Timberlake from the jump. The man sold out Britney Spears on Star & Buc Wild’s shot just to get more spins on Hot 97. Which made the Janet Jackson fallout inevitable in retrospect because if he’s willing to sell out his first love like that just to get airplay, what would he do with anyone else (and a Black woman at that)?

        • Sassypants

          Yep, the ultimate khaki guy. He even married a white girl who was rumored to be bi AND graduated from Harvard. I have to stop before I get mad all over again for nipplegate-forgot about Britney and he’s never apologized for that. If he didn’t get rich from ripping off black artists (with help from timbaland) he’d be selling phones at best buy, doing shows at the county fair on weekends.

          • LilMissSideEye

            “Rumored to be bi”

            …I now want her to leave him for a black woman so bad.

            • Rory ‘underconstruction’ James

              #petty but that ish was funny…

          • Julie Mango TheGladiator Staff

            And several songs on his first album were rejected by Michael

            I’m still mad at the lawyers for Michael’s estate let TimberFake “duet” with Michael posthumously on “Love Never Felt So Good”

        • Mary Burrell

          That is why Timberlake is basura to me to this day for what he did to Janet.

        • Julie Mango TheGladiator Staff

          Comedian Paul Mooney said that Justin TimberFake dances like an “Ent”-those walking/talking trees in The Lord of the Rings movies

          And ever since that^^^ I laugh when I see TimberFake dance

      • AlwaysBluffing

        Even without the rest of their resume and respect for black artistry, they were gonna get love from us forever just off “Baby hair and a woman’s eyes…” That song is the only time I’ve heard a white person even ACKNOWLEDGE the concept of baby hair, LOL.

        Now to crank some H&O on Spotify…

        • aka little voice

          Wait… all these years, he was saying “baby hair”??? The more you know!

          • Nik White

            Yeah I thought it was baby hips

      • TheUnsungStoryteller

        Sara Smile!!!! That’s my sonnnnngggg!!!!

    • You win for Hall and Oates!!!!! Fasho.

    • They aren’t running the whole 5k though. They fraudulent.

    • OweMeOne Kenobi

      Does Michael McDonald count or did we already claim him in the Racial Draft? “I Keep Forgetting” is that isht

      • Yeah, he gets a mention!!!

      • Mary Burrell

        I like him Yommo Be There.???

        • “M”

          That’s … Michael MacDonald
          (James Ingram too tho)
          *dying*

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgOTuC5-n34

          • Mary Burrell

            You are right about James Ingram.

            • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

              You know your music.

            • kneelbeforetigers

              People wanna sleep on James Ingram, but the aunties know. OH THE AUNTIES KNOW.

              • MaiB

                I was born in 74. Do I count as an auntie because “Baby, Come to me” and “One Hundred Ways”. . .yaaaaassss

                • SororSalsa

                  Baby Come to Me was the theme song for General Hospital’s Luke & Laura, I think. Yes, I was watching my mama’s stories as a kid. That song still goes. Patti Austin & James were killing it!

                  On a side note…in the 90’s, all the best Disney theme songs were sung by black people…Aladdin, Beauty & the Beast, etc.

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      • UrbanNortheast

        My mother loves her some Michael McDonald. She loves Motown and thinks he does it justice. One time for her birthday, all she wanted were his Motown albums.

      • Roz

        I remember thinking he was black for the longest time…even his name was black to me.

      • cakes_and_pies

        No love for “On my Own”???

        • OweMeOne Kenobi

          I thought that one was obvious, plus : Patti

        • TheUnsungStoryteller

          Man…that plays on the ol’ school r & b station for a REASON!!! Especially with Patti. You can’t go wrong when you do a song with Ms. Throw Your Shoes Off LaBelle.

          • Cheech

            A friend of mine used to run lights for Patti. I went down to see the show at the Fox in Atlanta–I hadn’t seen her before. She was doing two shows that night, and I got there about 5 songs before the end of the first show. After a couple songs, she was really getting into it, and she was kicking her shoes off. One flew into the wings, and one over the sax player’s head. I thought wow, she’s really into it tonight.

            The turnaround between shows came, and I went downstairs to talk to my friend. As we’re talking I see he has a little binder of cue cards on the light board, one page for each song. It’s open to that particular song, and at the bottom of the card, in big letters, he’d written, “SHOES!!”

            • TheUnsungStoryteller

              That’s such a great story! I’m jealous of you. You have friends in high places.

              • Cheech

                Actually it was that very friend who liked to say I had high friends in places.

        • Mary Burrell

          Michael McDonald and Miss Patti.

        • They wore that OUT IN the 80’s..lol

      • Jessie

        I heard some strong praise for Michael McDonald a few years ago and that there was an attempted draft–the counter offer was sooo bad. I think he is still on his birth-team. And now he is singing with Solange. Good man.

      • MilaXX

        Been down with Michael McDonald since the Doobies Brothers guest starred on What’s Happening.

        • Cheech

          That was a great episode!
          Poor Rerun. (I almost typed Rewind.)

        • Bezukhov

          Don’t forget the fine work Michael did with Steely Dan.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI7NDDQLvbo

        • Yahmo Bethere

          There’s a lot of 1970s going on in that sentence.

      • BlackSpartacus

        We must also add Bobby Caldwell to this list. You can’t tell me “What You Won’t Do For Love” wasn’t sung by the brutherist of bruthaz

        • The Pedagogue

          I think your comment might be flying under the radar. I generally consider myself to be extremely knowledgeable when it comes to music. Until I read your comment, I had NO IDEA that that song was sung by a white man named Bobby Caldwell. Even after having looked it up 30 seconds ago, I STILL don’t believe it. This just changed my whole day. Well done, sir. *daps you up for that knowledge*

          • BlackSpartacus

            I worked in a record store for years and didn’t learn until later.

        • iamcreeus

          This is devastating… Not only was I 110% positive that I knew “What You Won’t Do..” was sung by a black dude, but I also “knew” what said black dude looked like. Apparently based off of zero factual information. I think my brain might have fused Bobby Womack and Lenny Williams into a black RnB singer that doesn’t exist and I just rolled with it. Internet once again blowing my mind

          • Marlo Rencher

            You know he also sang “Open Your Eyes”, sampled in Common’s “The Light”.

      • nah. I will never go public with my non-hate of McDonald. Yeah low key I’m not changing the dial if he comes on and yes I will sing along… even in the car downtown. But anyone asks? I don’t play with him like that.

      • James Manning

        “Then I was down south and I heard some funk with some main ingredients Like Doobie Brothers, Blue Magic, David Bowie

        It was cool, but can you imagine Doobie in your funk?”

    • TheRestisStillWhiteNonsense

      Hall and Oates should have gotten that slot over Phil Collins. I only like two or three of Phil’s songs, but I can listen to H & O’s whole oeuvre with no shame. One on one, I wanna play that game tonight…

    • Junegirl627

      There’s people who still don’t know hall and oates are white.

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    • Godlikemonolith

      Sorry, I can’t go for that. ;-)

    • stacius

      20 years ago, I applied for a job at a (now well-known) media company. I went through two interviews, the third was with the woman I was going to be working with. She was half-Japanese herself, but what (I think) got me the job was that we discovered we had a mutual love of Hall & Oats.

    • TheUnsungStoryteller

      Wait…I thought Hall and Oates were black. Or at least the one with dark hair.

      I kid. I kid.

    • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      LOL. Yes, Even an Hotep would listen to Hall and Oates once and a while.

    • K-run Denise

      You ARE hysterical!!! ? I re-read the article twice just to laugh. ?

    • Your Mama

      I’m an 80s baby and I was in my 30s when I found out Hall and Oates weren’t black people. I’m still shocked by that.

      I can’t get jiggy with much of this list though, I don’t watch most of what was listed, except Ellen, love Ellen.. But I do love some Philadelphia cream cheese and starbucks, and pumpkin spice lattes in the fall.. sue me. And beach days and yes, I do swim, hair wet and all..

      • Ms.Moon

        I’m West Indian we swim I’ve been to the beach from babyhood on. I did not know African Americans (especially women) did not get in the water. I don’t care about my hair it’s hot I’m in the water.

        • HoneyRose

          That’s just a stereotype. Lots of black American people get in the water.

      • Looking4Treble

        80’s babies, unite!

    • Sunnii Dae

      We, the Philly delegation, would like to inform everyone that Hall and Oates Was drafted to the Black team in 1976.

    • hey wasn’t one of them like super racist pretty recently?

      Ahh yes Daryl Hall says calling Hall and Oates “blue-eyed soul” is a racist term and not to call him that.

      Daryl Hall has a message for critics crying cultural appropriation: “Shut the f*ck up”

    • SororSalsa

      Hall & Oates hit the R&B charts before they ever went pop. And “One on One” will forever be my jam.

    • Blueberry01

      “They even went to Temple, which is the Blackest PWI in America.”

      Lol! I know SO many black people that went to Temple.

  • JennyJazzhands

    When I was in high school we were told we couldn’t March in the saint Patrick’s day Parade anymore because of the white debauchery.

    • kingpinenut

      I don’t got to Fells Point in Baltimore for the same reason.

      #QuickTripToTheBigHouse

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