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When Will They Stop Making These Boring-Ass Black People Who Obviously Hate Black People?

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There is literally nothing — not The Strain, not Dwight Howard playing basketball — more boring, more tedious, and more cliche than the Black person who spends much of their internet time talking shit about “Black people” collectively in a way that lets you know they either don’t actually know very many actual Black people or just plain hate Black people. They are, to be frank, the basicest of the basic motherfucker.

You know where to find them. They exist on message boards, Facebook, Twitter, and anywhere else they have space to spread their gospel of anti-Blackness disguised as insight and epiphany. Perhaps today they can be found tweeting about how Blacks who excel in school are regularly ostracized by other Blacks. Maybe tomorrow you’ll see them starting and/or sharing shitty memes devised to talk more shit on Black people but disguised as self-determination. Maybe Thursday you’ll see them secreting sentences on how Black women prefer thugs to dudes with nice boatshoes. And maybe Friday they’ll say something about recently released prisoners getting more love from Black people than new college graduates — something that, in three decades of being Black in America, I’ve never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever seen happen. (And I’m from the hood!!! Like, the real, actual, hood. Where people were killed literally right in front of my house. Which means I’ve seen everything. But I’ve never seen that.)

Perhaps hate is too strong of a word. Maybe these people don’t carry white hot Black people animus in their hearts. But they do seem to actually believe some of the worst stereotypes about us, and also seem to be so embarrassed by and ashamed of us that they have no problem repeating them. And it is utterly fascinating how rote and predictable they are. You’d assume that a Black person with unpopular (and unright) things to say about Black people would be, at the very least, interesting. That you’d have fun debating them, and wouldn’t even terribly mind grabbing a beer with one. But I’ve yet to encounter an anti-Black Black person who wasn’t the human equivalent of almond milk.

I’m also aware there are people out there responsible for the creation of those people. People who said or did something that began the process of turning a plain ole Black person into an anti-Black one. Maybe you teased one for being “smarty arty” in 8th grade. Maybe you didn’t offer one immediate impromptu fellatio after you learned they graduated from college. If you are one of these people, and you happen to be reading this today, please stop. Whatever the hell you did or are currently doing to create these charm and charisma-less motherfuckers spamming our lives with shitty memes and bad recipe tips, please stop doing it. Stop making these people, people!

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for GQ.com And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at damon@verysmartbrothas.com. Or don't. Whatever.

  • Jessica

    I really wanna know about that crackhead relay race though…

    • JennyJazzhands

      Me too. I felt bad for wanting to witness this.

    • Damon Young

      you don’t. some things you can’t unsee.

      • Bluenote123

        I don’t know, dude. My imagination could not POSSIBLY be better than the actual description of a crackhead relay race. And I am one imaginative motherf*cker.

      • Siante

        I’ve seen crackhead “dance offs” in my hood, but never a relay race.

  • JennyJazzhands

    I have a black friend that previously identified herself as culturally white as if that were some sort of compliment. She grew up in the projects and thought all black people were ghetto, uneducated, poor, etc. I couldn’t believe what she was saying. She has since learned the error of her ways recently having encountered racism and seeing that your beloved white people ain’t caping for you. She asked me why my viewpoint was different. I told her, “I didn’t grow up like you. I grew up upper middle class. Everyone in my family is college educated with professional careers. You grew up in the projects, you and your siblings have different fathers, etc. You grew up thinking all black people were like your ghetto mom, I saw all spectrums of black people where I grew up and understood that some are good and some are bad just like every other race.” She said that until recently, she had never been around a “good grade” of black people and now she’s starting to see she was wrong. I’m thankful for her light bulb moment because before that she was always downing black people.

    • Damon Young

      “She said that until recently, she had never been around a “good grade” of black people and now she’s starting to see she was wrong.”

      this is why i do have a bit of sympathy for these people. because they were made that way. you want to grab them and ask “who hurt you?”

      • JennyJazzhands

        I know. If my eyes were lasers she would have no edges and a slight slight dent in the side of her head by how many times I looked at her like, “wtf is wrong here? Do you realize you’re black?” She used to confuse me so much. I used to ask her all the time, “if you got out the projects, graduated from college and became successful, do you think you’re the only black person on earth to do that?” Mental blindness is real.

      • FILTHIER

        “who hurt you?”
        Manifest Destiny.

    • miss t-lee

      “culturally white”?
      I cannot.

      • JennyJazzhands

        Lol I know she was ridiculous but she’s grown a lot in the last year. She used to use that phrase to try to explain that she identified more with whites because that’s who she grew up going to school with. She’s a lesbian but at the time her husband (whole other story) was white. She would say that because he grew up around blacks, had swag and spoke slang that he was “culturally black”.

        • miss t-lee

          There’s a whole lot to unpack here.
          Like a metric ton of issues.

          • “gotta use the scale that they weigh the whales with”

            • afronica

              “We’re gonna need a bigger boat.”

              • Lea Thrace

                stop being so scarce around here!

                • afronica

                  Hey, girl, hey! Good to see that one eye again.

              • Breezyx2

                What Lea said.

                • afronica

                  Breezy baby! Always good to catch you round these parts. I’ll try to get back more often.

            • miss t-lee

              Still love this lyric.

        • *sigh* I have been in pointless internet discussions with her husband’s type. They always talk about their pride for their wife who “made it”, and if she could do it clearly nobody else had an excuse. Like an excuse for what? Becoming a CNA and marrying a white guy is not “making it”. And he’s always the guy supporting George Zimmerman, because hoodies- and liking dumb memes with quotes about race by Stacy Dash or Raven Symone, and quoting statistics about how more black people shoot black people than white people shoot black people. Gahtdambit I hate that guy. But not as much as I hate his one black friend (or the wife) who agrees with him all the time.

    • Sigma_Since 93

      “good grade”

      What the…..?

      • cakes_and_pies

        Right, like she’s rating people like eggs and steaks.

      • miss t-lee

        folks also use that to describe hair.

        • Or road construction.

          • Sigma_Since 93

            Or water drainage

          • miss t-lee

            LMAO

      • JennyJazzhands

        I know. She’s weird.

    • HeyBooHey

      I mean this sincerely, though it may sound like shade. How were you friends with her with that way of thinking? Did you know her during her “culturally white” phase or after she converted back to black?

      • JennyJazzhands

        When she was culturally white we were just work friends, very surface. I noticed that every time I mentioned something about someone historical in black history she never knew who or what I was talking about. I said something about mahalia Jackson once and she was like, “who is that?”. So she was at arms length but I was still kind of waiting for her to come around because it makes no sense to be that smart and that ignorant of your own culture. After trayvon Martin and mike brown were murdered and she got called the “n” word by people she thought were so cool she started seeing the light. Now, we have a deeper relationship.

        • CityGirl

          After the “who is that” Mahalia Jackson incident, I would have had to take her @ss off the Christmas Card list. I wouldn’t have been around for her awakening….LOL

          • JennyJazzhands

            Lol I understand but I held on because I just knew it was coming. I felt like she was worth saving from her own ignorance, I guess.

    • CityGirl

      “Good Grade….”?? WTF? I mean, I think I understand what she meant by that, but I can’t imagine fixing my mouth to utter those words out loud… *smh*

      • JennyJazzhands

        I can’t either. And I think that’s what I disliked about her the most back then. It was almost as if she was repeating what her racist white friends had felt comfortable enough to say in front of her.

    • QueLoQue

      I harbored some of the same thoughts as your friend for a while myself, until I went to an all-White University for college. There, two things happened: 1.) I met mediocre White people, and all your thoughts about Black inferiority go out the window when you realize Sean down the hall is dumb as bricks despite his private school education and is only still in school because daddy could pay his tuition when he lost his scholarships. and 2.) I realized that you could defy all the stereotypes and White people are still gonna see you how they wanna see you, and put all those stigmas on you. You’re either the rule of the exception.

      The problem is that some people actually revel in being the exception, and develop their whole identity around not being like “those Black people”, which is ultimately unfulfilling because its outward facing (you’re building your self-identity around what you aren’t rather than what you are) and you’ll never be accepted by that group of you pander to with that mentality.

      • FILTHIER

        I hate the term *We need to do better* it makes me want to choke someone out in the best way possible.

    • Wild Cougar

      We are >>>>>>here<<<<<<<

  • Sigma_Since 93

    You’ve been eating too much beef brisket from the rib fest (which is soo good). A black on black hater is born when:

    The nerd shoots his shot at the fly girl in class and is shot down in public
    Ninjas ruin opportunity for Black folk
    Humidity destroys a sista’s hair and the natural klan laughs
    When a health conscious brotha brings some bland food to the soul food potluck and the family neva let’s him live it down
    When you attend a HBCU, renig in spades Freshman year, and your roommate kicks you out your dorm room

    • Damon Young

      you know what? i had the brisket, and liked it. but wasn’t in love with it the same way i loved the pulled swine.

      • miss t-lee

        Of course you did, it’s brisket.

        • Sigma_Since 93

          What’s wrong with brisket???

          • miss t-lee

            Nothing.I was meaning of course he liked it.
            Can’t vouch for any brisket outside of my state though.

        • Lea Thrace

          downvote maam

          brisket is heaven.

          and this is coming from someone who does not like to eat meat. But I will fcuk up some good brisket.

          Cant do swine though.

          • miss t-lee

            Clearly my comment read wrong. I love brisket. Forever and ever amen.

            • Lea Thrace

              phew. I was scared that this was going to be the beginning of the end for my love affair with you maam. lol

              *praise dances*

        • Siante

          Brisket: on my list of foods to try when I visit TX in a couple months…..

          • miss t-lee

            Enjoy!!! You won’t be disappointed.

    • FILTHIER

      Nah. There’s a kind of Educated Black Woman above all things that is guilty of this too. Usually she is trying to be so opposite of a baby mama, she starts being generally annoyed by all black children, women who produce black children, hair extensions, nails, anything showing skin (can’t be the jezebel stereotype), lightskinned Beyoncelike women, average black men, black men who don’t respect how educated they are, suddenly everything bad that has to do with blackness is everyone else’s fault and she’s a profound oracle trapped in a sea of relatives she hates going home to see because they haven’t found enlightenment the way she has.

      • Sigma_Since 93
        • FILTHIER

          This is the weirdest thing I have ever seen.

        • Ashia Sims

          I’m sad to know that a book like this even exists but sadder at the “similar items” that popped up after I clicked the link. I quickly exited the page. I don’t want to jack up my Amazon feed with that tomfoolery.

          • Wizznilliam

            LOL.. I noticed the exact same thing.. It’s like they all have to choose from a bag of keywords that only has the following words: Ghetto, Plantation, Liberalism, Obama, and America… And the reviews…

        • mynameiskevin

          I just moused over that link and pretty much figured what it was going to be based on the other responses. Worst thing about that is that folks like those say they’re trying to lift us up but they really aren’t writing it for us to read, but to show out for racists and anyone else trying to pass regressive laws just to say, “see? see?”

      • Beauty In Truth

        I know this woman you speak of. But I don’t get all the vehement hate on Beyonce! She may be a bit dry and dull in personality but she is not boogie at all! She is all Houston, and black curvy and your standard black southern belle. I don’t know if she had a debutante, but she is normal, middle class black in my eyes.

        Educated black woman? Versus what? Cause there is upper, middle, and working poor class. We can’t generalize entire subsectors. But I do know that there is such a thing as a poor mentality. And yes, educated black women and those of that mentality do not mix. I would not see Soledad’O Brian, Harris Faulkner, and Sade Baderinwa hanging with the Housewives of L.A. Both have big money, but the classiness and background of the two groups clearly makes a difference.

        Now Debra Lee might be closer to what you’re speaking on! She is a mess!

        • FILTHIER

          I think more black women are educated than people let on. I capitalized Educated because I didn’t know what those kinds of women identify as. I don’t think it’s Independent. Cause unless we are married or live with our mothers, aren’t we all independent?

          • Beauty In Truth

            ? You’re losing me on the independent thing? I was just speaking on educated vs “not traditionally educated in college.”

            • FILTHIER

              No I’m saying that I wasn’t sure how to identify the woman. I should have put it in quotes like “Educated Black Woman Above All Things”. It’s not my opinion that she’s educated, I think this b**tchy kind of woman always tries to remind you she’s educated, whether she is or not when she’s really just obnoxious and an elitist.

              • Beauty In Truth

                But why Beyonce, that threw me off in your example. I don’t think anyone sees her as a deep intellectual. No shade, she’s the best entertainer, but hardly sharp.

                • FILTHIER

                  I was saying the Elitist Black Woman usually hates all things Beyonce.

                  • Beauty In Truth

                    I don’t know, she’s Oprah and Michelle Obama’s official girl Bae. I think they love her actually. Good points.

                    • FILTHIER

                      I don’t think they are Elitist b**hes. I’m talking a personality type.

        • FILTHIER

          B**tch is what I call it, in my private moments. LOL

    • “The nerd shoots his shot at the fly girl in class and is shot down in public ” <—- This is the guy who becomes a black pick up artist.

      I just finished reading a biography of Iceberg Slim a few weeks ago and Slim asserted that true black pimps have an inherent hatred of black women usually dating back to their mom or some girl from adolescence and that motivation usually translates into the wanton cruelty that they used to manipulate or hurt women. It sounded a lot like the motivations of a lot of hurt fcuk boys I've seen and heard on the net. The similarities are disturbing.

      • The Unwritten Book. I remember that chapter from Pimp. Then again, while Iceberg Slim did some f*cked up ish, his mother was legitimately worse. Considering my own issues with my mom, I could relate.

        • In the biography I read “Street Poison” he later admitted that he didn’t truly hate his mom as much as he said but used it as crutch. I just think that the life of a pimp was much more appealing to him in the end.

          • That definitely something for my reading profile now that my schedule has opened up a bit. From what little I’ve read about it, it seems interesting.

      • MsSula

        “The nerd shoots his shot at the fly girl in class and is shot down in public ” <—- This is the guy who becomes a black pick up artist.

        …or on VSB, the One That Shall Not be Named. Loll.

        • Breezyx2

          HA!

        • miss t-lee

          Pretty much.

        • He has been named upthread…

        • FILTHIER

          Male entitlement. You know how many crushes women have on men who will never date us? We understand that men only date who they are attracted to, I don’t understand why men don’t understand that women do the same. Women don’t owe men attraction or vice versa.

          • Epsilonicus

            From my experience, men have a much more broad definition of who they are attracted to than women. Despite what men say, they will date outside their type a lot more than they will admit. From my experience, women’s attraction is not as broad. This is a concept thats hard for many to grasp.

            Then there are the guys who believe they deserve every girl in the world (pun intended). Not much more needs to be said about them.

            • Sigma_Since 93

              If he don’t have the characteristics on the unicorn list, it (dating and mating) ain’t happening.

      • Beauty In Truth

        But they can get the heck over it. American black men can be so easily dismayed. We all have issues with our families, so let’s go pimp it up now! Many of us men and women did not grow up with a father, but does that make black men go hating men too,, oh wait, it does. But misogyny in general allows for a lot of nonsense in our culture.

      • I read that, but it’s just a BS rationalization.

        There’s a tendency for a lot of Black Americans to rationalize a negative behavior they have through their own history, and ignore the same exact behavior in others who don’t have the same history – which would present the challenge that the behavior in question might be of a more generic origin. Pimping is not unique to black Americans, or uniquely black at all…prostitution, is after all the oldest profession. He did it, because he could make money out of it, live a lavish lifestyle and live that outlaw life which is filled with adrenaline, that has always had appeal worldwide. He’s no different than anyone who lives a life of crime and views Scarface as an ideal.

        When a person has a fake identity that they believe to be their actual identity (self image replace, one’s actions in reality), they usually have to come up with a lot of ways to legitimize it; the most common way in America is use Freudianism to legitimize one’s behavior (it’s a big part of American culture). You know blaming an experience in ones innocence to the upkeep of a self-defeating behavior. The purpose of such rationalizations however isn’t to change behavior, but rather to accept one’s powerless in attempting to change their behavior.

        • FILTHIER

          I think it’s because a white pimp probably hates women, but a black pimp probably hates double time. The blackness AND the gender.

          • Hmmm, you’re kind of proving my point.

            I don’t think one has to hate women to be a pimp. I think it’s the equivalent of saying that everyone who sells crack to their community, hates their community. It’s a reverse-projection, where we project what we believe would cause us to do something wrong if we were in another person’s shoes. There’s a part of you that’s aware of this which is why you use “probably”…you’re not entirely sure.

            It’s a problem of personal ethics or morality. Trying to dig or project what’s going on in terms of another person’s psyche or thoughts, without having “direct” experience and knowledge of the person in question and their life experience, always leads to the path of projection. Because you’re not basing your opinion on fact anymore, but on your own imagination.

            Too many people do that, and they miss what is directly staring them right in their face.

            • FILTHIER

              I don’t think selling crack and selling a human being is synonymous. Selling crack is selling an inanimate object to a customer. Selling a woman to a man has to do with what you are selling, not who’s buying. This is like an SAT question lol. If you see what your selling as an object, you probably don’t care about it. You can’t appreciate a life if you’re comfortable selling it.

              • But this is why I’m saying that this still ends up being projection. What I’m kind of pinpointing here is that, not only is this wrong, but it has the opposite effect people think it has in practice, and this kind of thinking is epidemic in America when you think about it.

                Your entire point is dependent on the assumption that the woman being sold has no sense of agency in the situation. Which means that if the woman chooses instead, to sell herself on backpage for instance (which a ton do), then she sees herself as an object, and hates women and doesn’t appreciate life…wouldn’t that be the case, if you’re being consistent?

                The projection itself is the denial of agency (there are tons of women who have no choice in the matter, but you actually have to know the women to make such a judgement). Not just at the woman being sold, but the the pimp himself…in a sense, you turn even the pimp into an object, which of course isn’t your intent, but after all isn’t an object, something that by default has no agency? You might believe that’s not the case, but Iceberg Slim believes that to be the case..he actually agrees with you: he hates women and sees no value for life, and thus he’s innocent…his mother is the one that’s guilty. He just needs to be ashamed of what he’s done, and hope that society forgives him for it.

                Instead of feeling guilt, he gets away with his crimes through accepting shame. Society ends up being contaminated in the process.

            • dadumdee

              Neeeeeegro Libre please. You have to simultaneously hate women and love money. When the woman doesn’t have said money, I think we all know what happens.

              • My point is that this kind of thinking has a consequence, that people don’t factor in when they make it.

                Question – Is it natural to hate women; does one choose to hate women; or is it society that teaches people to hate women? What do you think it is?

        • FILTHIER

          Notice how we cuss each other out we add black to it, like it’s double worse….like Your black azz aint s**t. Or don’t nobody want your black azz! Reminding someone they are black makes it twice as bad.

    • Nick Peters

      You forgot when the 13-year old boy who all the girls like decides he likes the yellow girl with straight hair

      • FILTHIER

        You mean the asian girl? Cause the yellow girl with straight hair is still black……

        • Nick Peters

          Apparently the yellow girl all the way to the white girl all fit on the same team

          • FILTHIER

            I reject that. Why? That makes me legitimately sad. Are you just joshing me?

  • Ayyyeeee. The leaves of the palm tree that’s blowing over the President line, tho…

    On this: “Perhaps today they can be found tweeting about how Blacks who excel in school are regularly ostracized by other Blacks.” I had a ridiculous back and forth on Twitter three months back with a Black dude who insisted on this. He got mad because I said that maybe kids ain’t wanna play/hang out with him because they sensed his corniness (not because Black people inherently hate reading and learning, which is what he was trying to assert).

    • Damon Young

      i concede that there have been black kids teased by other blacks for getting good grades/”talking white”…whatever. but some people make it seem like it’s an epidemic, like there’s a roaming band of thugs in every hood whose only purpose is to burn bookbags and break pencils

      • Sigma_Since 93

        Come on Champ you know that band of young thugs exists. That group of folks who are counting on the curve to keep them afloat (and on the squad) and you come through and shatter their dreams with the 98.5 on the history exam, the folks who raise their hands right when the teacher is getting ready to let you leave class early. You know how tight they get.

        • AlwaysCC

          but that type of person is hated for being OBNOXIOUS…not for being smart.

          • Epsilonicus

            It is definitely deeper than just being obnoxious

            • AlwaysCC

              it can definitely be deeper (that’s what she said?). but IMO the *real* root problem is smart people who always have to show/prove they are smarter than you are. their intelligence isn’t the issue, but the perceived condescending attitude is what gets people butt hurt.

              • Epsilonicus

                Listen, when folks are telling you its that simple, it really is. Some families viewed certain things as hallmarks of whiteness and passed that on to their kids. And those kids enforced that view often violently.

                • AlwaysCC

                  i agree with your assessment. folks can pass down some real stupid stuff to their kids. even in your example, the issue isn’t solely that the kid is smart. it’s that the perception is smart = white (and i would suspect that person believes that white = better than black).

            • FILTHIER

              I don’t think obnoxious people know they are obnoxious. Also I don’t think all those *I am a good black man* are truly *good*. They are usually jerks.

              • I dunno. A lot of times, a lot of the stuff that makes kids “off” is the product of BS going on at home that people don’t know about. As I got older and learned about what was going on in certain households growing up, a lot of foolishness makes sense.

                • FILTHIER

                  That’s true, but everyone has a young Kanye in their class that everyone hates. Even the quiet kids that won’t pick on them. I was picked on for being goofy, for having big goofy teeth, for being lightskinned (that kind of picked on wasn’t just being picked on it was dangerous) for being chubby before I stretched out……but I was still objective about all of it. I think if I had the mindset that people picked on me cause I was so pretty, light, and smart and everyone else just wasn’t on my awesome special level, instead of blaming societal issues, poverty, community values, oppression……I could see how part of the problem could be personality.

                  • I think we’re talking past each other. I’ll give you an example. There was this kid I was close to growing up that had a rep for being a major @$$hole and acting a fool a lot. There were a number of times where he’d jump out the window with a lot of the stuff he did. Long story short, we’d lost track of each other during high school and reconnected like a year and a half ago. Turns out that his mom was an alcoholic who beat him like a rented mule, and his acting out was a cover for a lot of the abuse he suffered.

                    I’m not saying that all jerks are like that, but sometimes, there’s a lot more to the story.

        • Lol, unfortunately, there’s no such thing as “white culture”, ask anyone who lives in Europe. That’s why outside America, the nation is seen as a culture-less society, since so much of what is said to be cultural is really just manufactured, a lot of times through advertising.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxyHX0MyfPg

          Lol…this was an actual ad in the 50’s.

      • Courtney Wheeler

        It is annoying..I got picked on all my life for those type of things, but it’s not an epidemic..it’s kids not being mature enough to embrace things that are different. The phrase “culturally white” is a scary term. Its like you’re completely dismissing yourself entirely.

      • Here’s why I pushback. Is it really about being teased for getting grades, or for being obnoxious about getting good grades?

        • miss t-lee

          Uh oh.

        • AlwaysCC

          lol eps and i have a thread going about that same thing

        • Cake211

          Definitely the latter. I was the smart kid and I was never teased for it.

      • FILTHIER

        Exactly. And I grew up in the slums. Nobody cared about all that. Half those kids only went to school to get a warm meal and get away from their crackhead mama’s selling azz inside the house.

    • Epsilonicus

      Its a real phenomenon though. Growing up in the projects I definitely was the recipient of it. Idk if it is a majority or not. But it is definitely a real phenomenon.

      Personally I don’t hate black people because of that experience, but I can see where kids can be driven to that point.

      • But when you think back on it, could it have been some other factors at play? I grew up in a working class neighborhood in Inglewood then Hawthorne (CA). At my middle school, we were tracked, and I was on the “smart kids” track with a host of Black and Latino kids. Kids got teased, of course, but it was never strictly about good grades.

        I remember there was a smart Sri Lankan boy who got teased a lot, and it had more to do with how he tried to set himself apart from the rest of folks.

        • Epsilonicus

          For me it was just that. Being smart. “Sounding white”. All of that. The kids in my projects just were not about that academic life. The most popular kids were related to local drug dealers. So they were taught you stay in school long enough to keep the system from arresting your parents. Then you leave and go sell drugs. School was not where it was at in my projects.

          • JennyJazzhands

            When I hit this point my mom sent me to the talented and gifted magnet school on the other side of town. I never thought that this was a black phenomenon. The nerds in white schools get picked on as well. (I definitely considered myself a nerd.)

            • Epsilonicus

              When I went to White private schools it was different (I recognize my school prolly was not the norm). The expectation was that everybody got As so no one was bullied about their academic performance(unless you failed to perform then that was a whole other issue). It became who was drinking and partying and who wasn’t.

              • JennyJazzhands

                I experienced the cool kids drinking, smoking and other explicit activities at the White private middle school I attended. But when I got back into a black magnet school for high school it was different. I was in the band and everyone was focused on their grades and music that’s it. Bullying wasn’t physical just talking and I can handle that. You can talk about me until you’re blue in the face just don’t touch me. Bullies didn’t last long either. One bad grade or one behavioral infraction was enough to get kicked out and back to your “home school”.

                • Epsilonicus

                  My friends who went to City and Poly had your same experience. Folks aint wanna get kicked out and go to their zone HS. Thus people acted right bc you knew you had to go home and explain to your parents about why you lost a great opportunity.

          • FILTHIER

            But kids will be mean if you have big teeth, if you’re unattractive, if you’re a nerd, if you stink. Children are stupid and will latch on to anything. It’s not a legitimate representation of the real world and race relations.

            • Epsilonicus

              I agree. However, it doesn’t mean that kids are not bullying others for being “smart” in an academic sense.

              • FILTHIER

                If you got good grades and you were cool, I’m sure you were fine. If you were a nerdy dork, some of the problem was you were lame. If you were a baseball star or king of the playground, nobody would care about your grades.

                • Epsilonicus

                  Nope. Not in my community. I just shared stories. They gave no effs on if you were cool or not. Being cool meant saying eff school. And if you demonstrated you cared about school, determined by your performance, you weren’t cool.

                  Like I said never a reason to hate black people but we can’t pretend this aint a thing. To be honest, I feel like it is less of a thing based on what my nieces go through in school. Nerdy is in for them.

                  • FILTHIER

                    You’ll be alright dude. *back pat* Turn to Jesus.

                • People Who play baseball are popular?

                  • miss t-lee

                    Most of time athletes are considered the in crowd. No matter the sport.

                    • Epsilonicus

                      One of the most popular kids on my block was a monster lacrosse player.

                    • miss t-lee

                      I believe it.

                    • Sigma_Since 93

                      Tell the kids on my son’s bus who clown him for playing golf.

                    • Epsilonicus

                      Definitely needs to be some sort of sport with some physicality to it.

                    • Sigma_Since 93

                      I had my son show them the athlete’s earnings list from Forbes with all the golfers on the list highlighted. He hasn’t had a problem since.

                    • tgtaggie

                      Jordan Spieth at 22 had made $10 million on the course this year alone. That’s not including endorsements. A lot of ppl don’t know that a middle of the road touring pro can still pull in a couple of mil a year with basic endorsements, etc. Play like that for 10-15 yrs and you and your great grandchildren are pretty much set. I’ll easily settle for that life instead of being broke up playing pro basketball and/or football.

                      The real money is in the PGA tour’s retirement system. Look it up on. A guy like Tiger when he turns 65 will probably have a retirement account with north of $250million + in it.

                    • miss t-lee

                      Can’t help you there. My advice would involve them clubs, so…

                  • FILTHIER

                    Some communities love the little league stars that go on to greatness.

                • So basically kids deserve to be abused. GOT IT!

                  • FILTHIER

                    Read with your eyes and not your issues. I’m being objective. There’s a kind of kid that gets teased. Whether or not they deserve it was not outlined in my post. I’m being factual. The fat kid gets teased, unless he’s really cool. Then people usually don’t bug him, he could even rule the playground. Depends on how meek or awkward he is.

                    • OK, so basically meek or awkward kids deserved to be abused. That’s still f*cked up. That’s a warped way to look at the world.

                    • FILTHIER

                      So if I tell you cats chase dogs that sounds like *Cats deserve to be chased by dogs* to you? What are you reading? Why are you assuming? You’re either socially awkward or you aren’t. If you get teased for being social awkward = you get teased for being socially awkward. Stay on topic. This isn’t about who deserves what it’s about 1 + 1 = 2.

                    • My point is that you’re talking about kids being teased for stuff they can’t reasonably control. That’s a bit cold, don’t you think?

                    • FILTHIER

                      I didn’t know you wanted me to append feelings to it. I don’t append feelings to things like facts and statistics when I’m trying to make a point. It’s a societal fact. I didn’t know we were sharing feelings. Those are opinions. Are you asking me what my opinion is on that fact? Or telling me how I feel about it.

                    • FILTHIER

                      Are you asking me to show you the Softer Side of Filthy?

                    • FILTHIER

                      Get out your feelings, that’s a problem.

        • Sigma_Since 93

          It was academics, reading books, activities. My son is catching some heat for playing golf being on the robotics team; they could care less that he’s a B- student; they see the clubs and the uniform and begin to clown.

          • AlwaysCC

            i got the same thing because i preferred ballet over other types of dance classes. and played flute instead of clarinet or saxophone lol kids can always find something to latch onto.

            • Right. I guess that’s where I’m going with this. Kids get teased. For me, it was being second generation West African. So, some kids made stupid remarks about Africans. When I did get teased, it wasn’t about the good grade I pulled on the homework assignment or whatever. It was dumb ish like, “How come you have long hair? I didn’t know Africans could have long hair.”

          • HeyBooHey

            Screw them clowning, robotics and golf?? Your son knows what’s up lol. Those are clubs now but they’ll get him far depending on his career path later on in life

            • Epsilonicus

              Are white people that into golf now? Very few of my white private school classmates actually play.

              • AlwaysCC

                lacrosse seems to be the new golf for kids. but golf is definitely still up there.

              • HeyBooHey

                People in business don’t play golf as much as they talk business while teeing off and ridin round in the carts, according to partners at my old job

                • Sigma_Since 93

                  That’s how I got started. I found it was easier to get in front of that business man if a round of golf was involved vs me calling and trying to get past his assistant. Mrs SS93 used to complain that I worked 50 hours, spent the weekends practicing golf, and she was left with the boys all the time.

                  I told her I would teach them how to play when they got older and she could have her girl time.

                  • HeyBooHey

                    Smart move! It seems superficial but it really is a good sport to learn for business. And shout out to your compromising lol

        • Epsilonicus

          It got to the point that my elementary school had the teachers stop sharing anything with grades out loud. There was no celebration of honor roll etc (they found out honor roll kids were getting beat up a few days later after the ceremony). Teachers never marked grades at top of spelling tests. It would just have corrections on it.

  • miss t-lee

    I was wondering if that FB that was circulated on twitter was the inspiration for this post…lol

    As I laughed the other day when I read it, I was just like, girl bye. FOH with all that. You want a cookie because you don’t have any children and went about things supposedly the “right way”? WAHHHH
    Like you Champie, I don’t know anybody’s family who doesn’t celebrate accomplishments.

    • Damon Young

      she was. those type of people fascinate me.

      • miss t-lee

        I’m not sure fascinate is the right word for me.

    • “Like you Champie, I don’t know anybody’s family who doesn’t celebrate accomplishments.

      It’s like the family from the Croods exist or something.

      • miss t-lee

        For real though.

        • Or Delonda Brice.

          • miss t-lee

            Who?

            • She was character on the Wire. She actively wanted her son to work the corners to live up to his dad’s legacy as a goon…and for the cash?

              • Sigma_Since 93

                You should have said Wee Bay’s BAE

                • True but that only tells a 1/4 of her ain’t sh8tness. That and I can’t bring myself to type “b*e” all the way out.

              • miss t-lee

                Hmmm.
                I’ll get around to watching this one day.

            • Epsilonicus

              Naiman’s mom from the wire

              • miss t-lee

                Once I read the wire, I realized why the name ain’t ring a bell.

                • Epsilonicus

                  Imma need you to watch it

                  • miss t-lee

                    One of these days. One!

  • Courtney Wheeler

    People shouldn’t project their own insecurities about their own race. Plain and simple.

    • FILTHIER

      Exactly, like so is the general consensus that all or most black people haters are bred in elementary school by meanies? I don’t believe that.

  • There’s a market for it.

    I can think of 3 guys – Pastor James Manning, Tommy Sotomayor and Jesse Lee Peterson – who perfectly exemplify this. What makes them appealing isn’t their rationality, but their ability to mirror the rage many white folks have but don’t announce, when “their country” is referred to as racist or it is simply implied. It’s a money-making opportunity/ attention-making hustle, plain and simple. Compare the financial success of those who hustle black-hate vs. those who hustle an overzealous love for blackness like the Hoteps and Conscious folks…whose living and eating better?

  • Brass Tacks

    What shames one about being Black or being associated with Black-ness?
    There is a love, a sense of belonging, and comradery that I wouldn’t trade for
    anything.

    P.S. The Strain is about as basic as white women and pumpkin
    lattes. #Letitgobro

    • HeyBooHey

      But why you had to come for the pumpkin lattes!??! (though they are honestly pretty basic)

      • Brass Tacks

        Its a known aphrodisiac with healing properties to these white girls in my area. I swear if I ever am able to invent a viable pumpkin spice fragrance.

        • HeyBooHey

          Well if they’re in your wheelhouse, sprinkle some pumpkin spice powder on everything and get your autumn flourish on

          • Brass Tacks

            Nah, not my wheelhouse. Monetary purposes only.

          • tgtaggie

            I guess its that time of the year lol

            • HeyBooHey

              The time of year for pumpkin spice? Or the time of year for cuffing? Cuz they’re both upon us, my good man. Act accordingly

        • Breezyx2

          Why invent one when you can stroll on down to the nearest BBW and grab all those pumpkin spice items. There’s oil, scrubs, lotions, mist, candles, etc. Go get your life Brass!

          • Brass Tacks

            I dont want that life!! lol Im just trying to get paid!

      • Mika

        and good as F.

        • Brass Tacks

          So just to gain a little clarity vss are down with Spice Lattes?

    • FILTHIER

      Plenty. African American names for one.

      • Julian Green

        I was just thinking about this; why, exactly, are Afro-American names something to be ashamed of?

        • FILTHIER

          Cause anything organically African American is automatically ignorant.

          • Julian Green

            I can understand that being the reason why mainstream America disparages “Black” names, but why do Black people instinctively do this too? I’m including myself in this; my cousin named one of her daughters Dasani and my first reaction was to shake my head and mutter n*ggas…

            That’s messed up any way you look at it.

            • Furious Styles

              Unique Black names are one thing. But certain names are more…well..self-parodying than others (T’quarius or naming kids after what they think are top-shelf liquors). When the name sounds like a Key and Peele sketch gone awry, then it becomes hard for me to keep a straight face.

              • FILTHIER

                But why not name a child after liquor? My name means Palm Tree in Hebrew. I don’t think liquor is any less profound than Tree.

          • Beauty In Truth

            Yaaassss!!!! Your comments are everything today.

    • Beauty In Truth

      Um, excuse you, pumpkin lattes are good! This black woman counts down the days!!!! lol

  • cakes_and_pies

    What would you officially call this? Ben Carsoning, Don Lemoning, Mia Loving? Clarence Thomasing?

    Off topic, I know I’m not the only one who is constantly refreshing the page waiting on new posts.

    • CityGirl
      • cakes_and_pies

        Ugh. That is so sad. They’re gonna Micheal Steele is @ss. By the time Steele figured out he was just there for show, it was too late. It’s hard to watch such a gifted and talented man talk like he’s Bobby Jindal’s browner brother while “othering” himself as a Black man. Like Blackness is something to overcome.

        • Epsilonicus

          Idk. Carson seems to enjoying bathing in White racism whereas Michael Steele thought he could actually reform the party.

          • Sigma_Since 93

            Steele was too Black for the White folks (despite helping Republicans to win the house and the senate) but was too White for Black folks.

            I could roll with Steele and Armstrong Williams.

            • Epsilonicus

              He wasnt terrible as Lt Governor of MD.

            • “I could roll with Steele and Armstrong Williams.”

              The bulk of his politics I can’t jive with but Steele seems affable. Something about old Armstrong, other than his politics, bothers me. I’d love to take a time machine back to see how he acted at SC State.

              • tgtaggie

                lol. I know his family personally and let me tell you, they really are some cool cats. Everybody still side eyes Armstrong though. lol.

          • cakes_and_pies

            You’re right. There’s some saying about highly educated people not being the brightest bulb’s but he can’t be that obtuse to not se what he’s doing.

            • Epsilonicus

              He may believe he can manipulate it to his own benefit. Idk how long that will last for him though.

          • There’s also the fact that Steele came up through the ranks, so he had a reasonable chance of being able to fix things. Carson was someone else.

            • I was really looking forward to Herman Cain vs Obama lol…then he went to go get some side from a white lady lol. You can’t spin your way out of that one.

              • tgtaggie
                • miss t-lee

                  Yup…lol!

                • That commercial with his homeboy smoking was the one.

              • The G.O.P constantly jettisons its sane and qualified black folks like Condi, Powell, and Steele for a**clowns like Herman, Carson, Allan West, and others every time. I honestly think they are trying to keep blacks away.

                • afronica

                  It really makes you wonder. I am watching what happens with Rubio closely because of this. Maybe they have different strategies for different ethnicities, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

                  • Carlisias

                    You can already see aspects of it with Rubio. His parents benefited from laws allowing them to gain asylum in the US because they were Cuban and now he’s against allowing other Latino/Hispanic immigrants to become citizens even though they were born here. Bobby Jindal’s family only gained citizenship because of his birth on US soil and I think the same is true for Rubio. The fact that they haven’t come out condemning the elimination of birthright citizenship speaks volumes.

                    • afronica

                      Jindal seems to have doubled down on the no for birthright citizenship, which blows my mind.

                    • tgtaggie

                      I really don’t understand Rubio. Its like is he really that dumb?

                    • Epsilonicus

                      He tryna get power by any means necessary

                    • Carlisias

                      He’s playing the game they’re all playing to get white Republicans out to vote.

                • cakes_and_pies

                  I forgot all about Allan West. I swear Key and Peele made this parody specifically for his. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2tLyqfJd54

                  • Black Republicans from my experience, tend to be like black Brietbarts, David Mamets and David Horowitzs on the right. They weren’t born Democrats, but something they saw made them disappointed and made them leave, and in their turmoil, they embraced the complete opposite of what they had previously believed. They were never really invested in the ideology or even put much original thinking into being conservative, but rather a rage or true belief is what serves as their main source of fuel.

                    • Beauty In Truth

                      I nominate Negro Libre for “Honorary Independent Staff Writer of VSB, 2016.”

                    • cakes_and_pies

                      I have one in my now deactivated FB account who is like this. He’s an OK dude until it comes to politics. He does a complete 180 and will bend backwards to establish that he’s the opposite of Black, not New Black, just Other Black. Pushing and sharing the same tire attitudes like it’s a badge of honor to actually “hear” what conservatives are saying and dismissing the carefully coded language. It’s funny when a Conservative gets caught saying something racist, they go radio silence or say Black people do worse to their community.

                • There’s more of a severe anti-intellectualism in the republican party than in the Democratic party, which has it’s share too. Probably the last Republican president that ran as a smart and intelligent Republican was Nixon: Homey, Religious, Simple-minded etc aka Reaganism, is the archetype. They’re not looking for the most qualified, they’re looking for redundancy.

                  So it’s not surprising that they overlook Colin Powell and choose Herman Cain, he, like the others you mentioned, are too high in self-esteem to do what they do. Can you imagine Colin Powell, having to reduce himself to the level that Dr. Carson is currently doing, to appear as a viable candidate? And the fact is, we could actually use a person of his credibility in the white house right now, since it seems no president has any idea how to deal with our military at the moment.

                  • Considering both parties treat the big green machine with a hands-off attitude when it comes to spending and weapons Powell could bring them in a bit. Not to mention that defense contracting is a high-key jobs program.

                  • Epsilonicus

                    Why did that anti-intellectual strain pop up though?

                    • America’s always kind of had a rep for being anti-intellectual, until about the time, when it seemed the Soviet Union had better engineers and scientists than America did, due to the whole Sputnik crisis.

                      Conservatism came out of that period, as did the modern identity politics/postmodernism of the left. Intellectualism declined with the rise of the Southern conservatives and the Evangelicals during the presidency of Reagan. Reagan in a sense, figured out how to bond the intellectual conservatives with the anti-intellectual ones (mixing Goldwaterism with WASP religious conformity and Southern racism), and ever since then they’ve increasingly taken over, they peaked during the George W. Bush presidency, and conservatives have been dealing with an identity crisis ever since.

                      A lot of intellectual conservatives, don’t have any platform and pretty much have little power in the Republican party, unless they want to be Neo-conservatives. Neither can they get much jobs in academia due to the fact that liberal intellectuals run it, so a lot of conservative intellectuals either end up becoming reluctant liberals or tag alongside right wing libertarians who politically, are slightly better off than they are.

                    • Ari

                      How would you place Jeb? On one hand I view him as an intellectual conservative. I live in Florida and it’s interesting that he successfully removed Florida’s version of affirmative action, and was also one of the largest proponents of K-12 testing & Common Core standards. On the other hand, he panders to the religious/working class right (abortion). Besides the clear and apparent fact that he is a true politician, I can’t figure out what he stands for. I also think it hurts him in his fight against Trump.

                    • I find intellectual-politicians to be fundamentally principled and wiling to engage in debate (like Denzel’s Great Debaters kind of debate) to prove their points…that doesn’t necessarily mean I agree with them or think that their points are valid. A great example of this was Barry Goldwater.

                      I think Jeb Bush is more of a moderate, which is completely different from being intellectual, as far as I’m concerned. In a sense, he’s a more likeable version of Mitt Romney, as in being someone who is willing to work both sides to get his own favorable legislation done. Ultimately, he fits the status quo of what often wins national elections, but he’s running at a bad time, and the unforeseen influence of Trump is hurting badly as you implied.

                      When I say there’s a lack of intellectualism in the republican party, (and there is a good amount in the democratic), I’m really just saying that there’s no longer a tolerance for debate. It’s primarily about getting numbers and cash to force policy on opposing groups and thus, the other group feels that they need to get more cash and greater numbers to compete and do the same. Passing policy through open debate and persuasion is believed to be idealistic and a waste of time, so both sides pretty much engage in a cold war, that gets worse and more tense, every election cycle…which ultimately makes reforms impossible.

                • Epsilonicus

                  “I honestly think they are trying to keep blacks away.”

                  Exactly. But maybe the black candidates they choose are not get the black vote to assuage some mental f&ckery for white conservatives? Thoughts?

        • tgtaggie

          For all the good he has done (Carson) he’s literally pissing it away by trying to win a nomination he has no realistic chance of winning.

          I’m pretty sure I’m voting for Deez Nuts next november bc the amount of clowns running for president in both parties is laughable at best.

          • cakes_and_pies

            It’s like watching the Hindenburg, the Titanic, and Hiroshima go down simultaneously in slow motion.

          • Leigh

            You said it. I’m voting for Deez Nuts and Dat Azz.

            • NomadaNare

              Youre joking i really will vote for dat azz Like for real real You know when a black person repeats a word in order to emphasize it is the most serious of serious expressions

            • DB

              I would rather Deez Nuts ran with Deez Tittays. Dat Azz could be Secretary of State.

              http://tinyurl.com/q8cv53s

        • It’s more weird than anything else.

          It’s kind of amazing how trolling Obama back in his 2013 speech has led to this. It’s kind of the Bizzaro version of Obama during the 2004 DNC.

        • At least Michael Steele helped a lot of Black Republicans get jobs. Carson hasn’t managed that.

        • John Henry

          I fell out…woke up, then fell out again. LOL.

      • NomadaNare

        I like Carsoning but I thought we already had Tomming

    • I’d call it Manninging, because I’ve never seen anyone better at it:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXSQYXrGuTE

      • cakes_and_pies

        He is just too squirrely for everyone. No sign of intelligence whatsoever, just soundbites. Like that loud @ss uncle who just says dumb stuff in a loud voice for attention.

      • Brass Tacks

        What did you just have me listen to, Libre?

        • Real life Uncle Ruckus

          • Sigma_Since 93

            Dude gets a bad rap. How can you hate on a dude who is converting haters to our side?

        • Instagram SuperModel

          Hi, Brass?

          • Brass Tacks

            Hi, Instagram SuperModel

            • Instagram SuperModel

              Ooooweeee!!! You make my heart go boom boorom boom, like super bass!!! ?

              • Brass Tacks

                lol well that’s an extremely unique, and flattering way to say it.

                • Instagram SuperModel

                  coz, I’m different.

        • John Henry

          This seriously scarred my brain, because I forced myself to listen in disbelief…

          The worst part is that he is supported by a whole church of people “yes lording” this man. How could he say “Say it loud, I’m black and I’m proud!” and nobody responded. He just said “Black is a Sin, and asked the Lord to take away that sin.”…

      • Carlisias

        This guy was on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. There’s no way I would have stayed in this church. Lol

      • CamCamtheGreat

        54 Double D?? Does this man not know how bra sizes work?

      • sletermen

        What the entire ….

    • Ustadh

      I spent yesterday constantly refreshing

    • mynameiskevin

      I nominate “Jesse Lee Petersoning”

      • cakes_and_pies

        Who are all these self-hating Negros? I must have my deflectors up high, because I’ve never heard of him. How do you thank white people for slavery?

    • Leigh

      Juan Williamsing??!!

  • Question for black kids who picked on for being smart: did you ever attempt to reach out and help anyone?

    • Epsilonicus

      Yup. And it got me jumped in the stairwell of the projects. It was not until I busted my classmate’s head with a ceramic chair that the bullying stopped.

      • miss t-lee

        Shout out to you with that chair action.

        • Epsilonicus

          Wildly enough, school became a lot easier after that moment lol

          • miss t-lee

            Of course it did.
            You have to kick a little azz sometimes.

            • Epsilonicus

              Afterwards they had me speak to the counselor because I have completely went Incredible Hulk and blacked out during the fight. So they had me see someone. The counselor told them nothing was wrong with me, I just got tired of the BS. The students thought I was flat out crazy and dangerous; the mom of the kid I beat up (who was my main bully) came up and complained i was too dangerous to be around “normal” children.

              • miss t-lee

                I’m laughing because I had a moment like this in HS.
                Except I yanked a broad across the table in front of the principal.
                Good times.

                • h.h.h.

                  i deposited a fellow into a locker, i was trying to guarantee his safety from me

                  • miss t-lee

                    Smart.

                  • Epsilonicus

                    Preventative measures are always good lol

                • Epsilonicus

                  Sometimes you just have to lay hands on people lol

                  • miss t-lee

                    Indeed.

              • I won’t go too deep. Suffice to say my Incredible Hulk moment was much less well received.

                • Epsilonicus

                  They wanted me expelled but my mom threatened to raise heck about the conditions of the school so they backed off and let me come back while suspending the other kid.

              • AlwaysCC

                i was a peer counselor/mediator in high school. kids who got into fights and had arguments regularly were seen by us after being “assessed” by the school counselor. we were basically just there to talk/vent to. lots of kids came to us after those “hulk” moments so that stuff didn’t build up and it happened again

                • Epsilonicus

                  That school was dysfunctional that people cheered when they closed it and tore it down. Like I said, it was so dysfunctional that they had to mail honor roll certificates to keep kids from getting beat up.

                  • AlwaysCC

                    that’s just crazy to expect children to function and achieve much of anything in an environment like that! the fact that it was so prevalent says something…i’m not sure exactly what it says, but it says something!

                    i was going to say usually but i really don’t know how “usual” it is…i thought school was the safehaven (or supposed to be) from all the foolishness that happens outside of school. there will always be some stuff that affects school life, but seriously, how were kids even expected to learn when you’re dealing with that everyday??

                    • Epsilonicus

                      Thank goodness I was only there for 2 years. It was crazy.

                      Whatever was happening in my project was brought inside my classroom. I you ever seen The Wire, the terraces were the projects I lived in. It was worse in real life.

                      Its why i tell people I am not one of those anti-black people black people. We know how the government did the projects. You had 3 generations of folks who lived in the projects. There were people who stayed not only in the same complex but the same apartment for generations. And then government never funded the buildings to actually upkeep them. They cut the security budget and put nation of islam out, who actually did a great job.They slowly cut funding turning them into dumps. So all these community issues came into the classroom. You cant keep people in those conditions and expect positive results.

                    • AlwaysCC

                      i have never seen the wire, but i’ve seen my share of projects cuz #memphis the kids i knew and talked to did use school as a place to get away. you’re fortunate it was only 2 years – is that when you went to the quaker school?

                    • Epsilonicus

                      Nope. I ended up in another public school. Quaker school was for HS

                • Agatha Guilluame

                  That’s so strange that you got the kids that hulked out. I was a peer mediator too but we never got the really serious stuff. If there was a brawl that was strictly a principal and parents (and maybe the cops’) domain. We mostly helped arbitrate petty disputes. Like maybe a kid felt picked on by X person (who was usually a former friend) and you helped them mend fences and they pretended to because they didn’t want the issue escalated to the principal.

                  • AlwaysCC

                    we only got those after the school counselor/psychiatrist/doctor okayed it for them to be involved in the program (usually after outside counseling i assume). we mostly got the mediation stuff you mentioned. and we worked in the library with adults present if anything crazy went down. i never knew of any incidents…though discussing susie stealing becky’s boyfriend always tended to be quite the event lol

                    • Agatha Guilluame

                      That was one of the best things about it…mediating girls. Most times the boys would be on some dumb sht, they’d be in there not even knowing why they beefing…maybe one dude bumped into the other. Whereas the girls…YO…DRAMA. Who’s more vicious than a teenage girl? Not a damn body….imma tell you that right now.

      • AlwaysCC

        i don’t typically watch fight videos, but i kinda want to see that!

      • JennyJazzhands

        Hey, I had to hit a boy that was picking on me with a chair. He pushed me and I swung my desk without even thinking. Like the whole joint with the tiny desk attached.

      • mssporadic

        A boy got a mouthful of magazine paper for insinuating that I was dog.

      • Well, look on the bright side. At least you didn’t get suspended for 3 days for accidentally tripping and knocking over a teacher. And no, I’m not joking.

        • Kas

          “Accidentally”

          • That’s what they thought. Gee, a clumsy six foot tall 12 year old trips and bowls over a teacher handing in homework became a 3 day suspension. My parents didn’t punish me, because it seemed weird to them to punish someone for an obvious accident.

            • Kas

              Heck, that’s what I thought you meant. I was thinking you were 15 – 16. What 12 year old has the courage to intentionally knock a teacher over. However, being 6′ tall, I’m sure you got more than you share of you should know better since you must be dayum near grown.

              • I know you’re new, but I had an… Interesting relationship with the administration of my school. LOL

                • Kas

                  Clearly

    • Courtney Wheeler

      Help with their grades?

    • HeyBooHey

      No, cuz I didn’t know how to. Alot of the things I was smart at, like math, I could just do but not necessarily teach to someone else. I did do my cousin’s math and english homework for her throughout JHS though – if that counts

    • Julian Green

      Only with the girls. Otherwise, not so much.

    • That’s a toughy. I did reach out for help. The problem was that the Dean of my school was this light skinned woman whose kids were a grade before and after mine. She wasn’t a fan of this dark skinned half-West Indian kid whose came-from-trash dad was the primary caregiver sonning her kids in school on a regular basis. As a result, I got victimized with a lot of BS, and she looked the other way when the light skinned kids picked on me. Not surprisingly, she’s a member of the Links, and is chaplain of the local chapter.

      Shocked, SHOCKED I SAY.

      • FILTHIER

        I’ve never heard of lightskinned people banning together to be mean to darkskinned kids. They usually out number us. Not alot of racial mixing in my neighborhood when I was little. But Darkskinned kids weren’t mean to me. It was the middle of the road brown folks. The kids who were really dark got picked on still.

        • Well, I went to an all-Black private school. There were even numbers, and those light skinned kids went HARD in the paint on anyone considered too dark. And don’t let anything else be wrong. The amount of times I was called darkie and burnt hurt man. It’s only been in the past year or so that I’ve started to let go.

          • FILTHIER

            I guess that makes sense that a black private school would have lighter kids. Jack and Jill and such.

          • Kas

            Ouch

    • Sigma_Since 93

      I had to fend for myself at some level. Sports were a great equalizer in my hood. Once we got to the point where I could hold my own and / or beat you, out perform you in the classroom, and your female cousins liked me, I was insulated. Yes I got teased for going to the White boy school and was accused of acting White but they knew what was up if I were to attend the public school.

    • Agatha Guilluame

      You don’t get picked on for simply being smart. That’s not a thing. You get picked on for being awkward, socially inept, clueless and/or creepy because of said attributes. Listen if you’re smart and you also happen to smell bad, you’re not getting picked on because you’re smart. Even if one of the things they call you as they shove you into a wall is a nerd.

      It makes you feel better to say kids picked on me because I was a genius but it’s more likely because you were a mouth breather. It can’t be that you’re smart and charming. It’s more likely you were smart and thought the way to make friends was to tell people they’re stupid.

      • See, I’ve been smart and y’all can attest to my awkwardness. I wasn’t picked on. I’m not saying other people’s experiences weren’t real. Just mine were different. I also made an effort to continuously reach out to people in class that were struggling if they were open to help. That’s mostly because either they were attractive, and it never hurts to have attractive women on your side, or because I like hearing other people’s perspectives more than my own.

        • Siante

          ” I like hearing other people’s perspectives more than my own.”

          You just unleashed the secret to having (& keeping) friends.

        • Agatha Guilluame

          Obviously or maybe not so obviously my “yous”weren’t directed at you. They were universal yous. I’m not saying everyone who was awkward and smart got picked on, I’m just saying we gotta look at the bigger picture.

          In your case, you were awkward, smart and shallow but the fact that you were a great listener helped balance the scales redeem you I guess.

          • Shallow? I am hurt. Wounded even.

            • Agatha Guilluame

              Except you’re not.

              Anyway, I know it’s difficult to do but I wished more people looked at their younger selves with a more critical/objective/assessing eye.

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