jesusFor the record, and before we begin, “Jerry, let the record refleck…” that I’m not using the term religion in the Bible/Torah/Talmud/Qu’ran, Holy Trinity and you’re out, type of way.

Naw, we’re going to use it in a different way. Allow me to explain.

Can I kick it?

Yes you can.

Can I kick it?

Yes you can.

Can I kick it?

Yes you can.

Well I’m gone.

For years and years, eons even, religion has been the source of more conflict than a Chris Brown interview. It’s gotten to the point where people have to write articles about the difficulty of interfaith relationships. On Love & Hip-Hop: NY we see how Consequence, his teeth, and Jen the Pen can’t seem to live happily ever after because he has turned his religion into an immovable object. She is not a Muslim. He is. He refuses to allow their mixtie son to even observe non-Muslim holidays, etc. Like Christmas. Because that’s his word.

See it’s not enough that two people have religion. Religion has to be shared. For the record, I understand this. I get why folks wouldn’t want to cross their God-sabers. Different faiths come with different rules and guidelines. Shucks, one religion says don’t eat that swine, one says don’t eat that lamb, one says don’t eat that monkey. I’m paraphrasing. In fact, it seems we only all agree on chicken. And I’m pretty sure I’m making that up. Eat mor chikin.

I’m losing my religion here. Back to the lecture at hand. The point is, two folks can have that old timmmmmme religion, but if it doesn’t match, well, you get chaos. I think at times its almost better (should this interfaith or faith-and-not situation arise) that one person has it and the other doesn’t give a flying f*ck. But people always give f*cks. It’s what people do.

So as Jesus said to the guy he was asking, “what’s your religion?” (that doesn’t have to be religion)??

Well for me, it’s music. Music is my religion. You know, when I’m not being religious. How does this work? Or what brought this to my attention?

Have you ever, ever, ever in your long legged life seen a long legged sailor with a long legged wife? No? Me neither.

But in the midst of a conversation recently with a person who is a music head/snob like I can be at times, I discovered that while we both were extremely fond of music as a whole, our tastes varied so widely that it was eye opening. For one, I discovered that this friend is one of those mainstream-rap-is-not-hip-hop people, a camp I’m staunchly not in. Then came the kicker. In the midst of a convo about Kid Cudi and my assertion that he is the best accessory rapper (you know makes everything sound better by virtue of his presence) in hip-hop and citing Kanye West’s beautiful masterpiece, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, she posited that she wasn’t even familiar with it or his work for real.

Sccccccrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Say heffa say wha?

Say heffa say wha?

Oh no she didn’t.

Oh no she didn’t.

It was totally amazing to me to think that somebody could be unfamiliar with one of the biggest artists in hip-hop critically lauded albums…as a fan of the artform. Even hip-hop heads respect Kanye’s artistry. Not this one. Nope. She gave no f*cks. And for me, it seems like willful ignorance. It’s like people who buy Zune’s (do they still exist?) because they don’t want to purchase Apple products. It’s impossible to not be familiar with Jay-Z. It just is. But to specifically not pay attention to Kanyeeevel. I ain’t even say you had to like him, but to not pay attention or even know songs on one of the most lauded albums in years, hate it or love it?

#cmonson

While that’s all well and good, it made me realize that music could be just as divisive a force as regular religion for me. I’m the kind of person who can appreciate and love pop music. Cobra Starship “You Make Me Feel” is just as dope as any underground song. Same with Rihanna’s “We Found Love”. I siiiiiiiiiiiiiiing, because I’m haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaappy. But I can’t discriminate because I’ll miss out on too much.

But…but…I have to respect other people’s views and means for listening. And try not to judge. Lord knows when it comes to music there isn’t an argument I’m not willing to have. And girl I’ll house you. And judge your tastes. I’m like a Dilla Donut, workinonit. It’s hard though. You can’t send me some crap that’s hot because its not mainstream. Ya bish. Just because 12 people know it doesn’t make it exclusive. It probably makes it trash.

Hashtag gospel.

Hashtag yeah I said it.

That was harsh. I apologize. See what music made me do? Plant a flag. Iron Flag. Two people with vastly different tastes in the same thing can get along. Clearly. If Mary Matalin and James Carville can get along and be married then its possible. But it also helps if you just agree to never discuss those things at home over dinner. Or in a boat. On a moat. In a chair. Over there. But people who are passionate need to outlet their passion. It ain’t passion if you ain’t passionate.

Message. Knowledge my brother, use it or lose it.

So music is my religion. Clearly. It’s uplifting and encouraging and can be as divisive as North Korea making the quadratic formula the official language of Mongolia.

What?

Also notice I never said anybody was wrong or right. It’s religion, we’ll all find out when we’re dead. Word to Father Abraham.

It’s Friday. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good night.

What’s your religion?

Talk to me.

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka MR. GET YO SH*T AND GET OUT BUT LEAVE MY D’ANGELO VOODOO ALBUM aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL HE A 3

 

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Damon Young

Panama Jackson is pretty fly for a light guy. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. He believes the children are our future and is waiting to find out if he is the 2nd most interesting man in the world.

  • 2Rawtid

    Fashion. And Movies. I will judge thee. *sips tea*

    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

      What kind of tea do you have? I could use a cuppa peppermint. :-)

      • 2Rawtid

        I have all kinds!!! *passes a cup of peppermint tea* I’m a green tea gyal myself. :)

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          Oh my, thank you, you have perfect timing. Lol. :-)

          I like green tea too, especially in the afternoon. I like most teas, except for Earl Grey.

        • Kema

          Sipping on ginger tea now with my pinky out giving a side eye to all those drinking coffee.

          • Kickandasnare

            *nodds while sipping hibiscus ginger
            and silently judging all lipton drinkers*

  • http://www.wddij.com The Ruthless Wonder

    I feel like music as it has evolved is something as divisive as religion.It wasn’t always that way. But it is the new ground of debate. And superiority complexes. And snob conversations. But you can blame hipsters for that as much as you can blame rapper beefs. My favorite artist is not a mainstream artist, but it is assumed because of that I’m not into mainstream stuff as well. I like some mainstream guys enough to listen, but I’m going to buy the next Tech N9ne album.

    It is a reflex. I’m going to give anyone he signs to strange a chance before I do someone joining RocNation, Atlantic, Def Jam or Shady/Aftermath or Interscope. I’ll go to those concerts over some of the other ones because that’s who I want to pay for. But as a society those acts are now some defining characteristic. Because music says something apparently about the type of person you are. Me? I like Tech and ^S^trange Music but Immortal Technique bores me.

    Some call that contradiction, I call it personal tastes. Which is what music should be about anyway. Just like religion.

    • Charcoal Burnt Brother Lover

      Speaking of labels, can somebody who might be more informed than I, tell me why anyone would sign to Bad Boy, if there name is not Cassie.

      • Charcoal Burnt Brother Lover

        *their*!!

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        Because they want to commit career suicide?

      • ReggieH

        I’m always saddened by the fact that Janelle Monae is signed to Diddy in some way. And, don’t get me wrong she has blown up in and outside of music, but in that Diddy-esque way they blew the perfect time for the album release.

        She got so much exposure from being on the Fun song “We are Young”

        • http://www.wddij.com The Ruthless Wonder

          Because sadly Diddy seems to be one of the few to go after people who aren’t the usual fare. He has to keep making music money to justify his non music money. How else do you get French Montana signing? How else do you get a KC kid like Janelle Monae going to bad boy? Well part of that is the lack of midwest labels, but you get my point. If he can leach he will. If he can keep his other businesses relevant with his music artists then he will. And thus he won’t go away until he dies. But then I’m a KC native Tupac fan. Bad boy isn’t often on my good side save before I found out how he did 112.

      • Asiyah

        Bad Boy is the place where people go to die. It’s for those who don’t want to live long lol

        • Sweet GA Brown

          Bad Boy is the place to make all your one-hit wonder dreams come true.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

      “I feel like music as it has evolved is something as divisive as religion.It wasn’t always that way. But it is the new ground of debate. And superiority complexes. And snob conversations. But you can blame hipsters for that as much as you can blame rapper beefs”

      As much as I hate hipsters, I can’t lay the blame at their feet for this one. A lot of these debates happened when music got corporate.

      A quote that Talib Kweli once said in Black Star’s album was relevant then as it is now when pertaining to music. He said “I remember when the worst thing you could be was a sellout. Then the sellouts started running things”.

      He’s got a point. Look at who was running the industry then and look at who’s running it now.

      • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

        ~ “I remember when the worst thing you could be was a sellout. Then the sellouts started running things”.

        isnt that the case for almost anything when it becomes industry ? look what happened to food. no i can’t, i’ll get emotional. but i mean.

        mass production is the enemy of the pure.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

          That’s about the size of it, sadly.

          • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

            but ~*~

            revolution is the completion of a cycle. as in, what comes around goes around. as high as you go is as far as you drop. the Universe always rights itself ..

            • Mr. Marc.J.H.

              I don’t comment much on here being that I can’t quite figure out how to create an account orrr maybe I’m just a lil lazy. Any how i just wanted to say to you, Esa.. I heart your quotes.

              • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

                thank you Mr. Marc.J.H.

                you put a nice big smile on my face.

                happy friday, good sir ~*~

                • Mr. Marc.J.H.

                  Oh snap, of all the yeas I’ve been reading vsb, i think ive met my first vsb friend. I’m now inspired to comment more on here. Good Friday to you as well mam.

                  • Mr. Marc.J.H.

                    Im not about to correct the above grammatical errors I just made above. In my defense, I’m typing on a gs3 in Atlanta Bread

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        You know, I get what Talib was saying and Esa is right. But it was also inevitable. Folks swear they do it all for the love but Talib ALSO said in “Funny Money” “…can’t feed my kids on my love for hip-hop…”

        These cats want to all make millions. Integrity gets them into the game, the money keeps them there and any of them ninjas who would say otherwise is a lie and a half.

        • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

          it’s complex. when i was in DC i was crying on my boy’s shoulder, “what happened to hip hop!?!” and then i pulled myself together. evolution is revolution, a process of birth, growth, decay, death, and rebirth.

          right now, for me, we are in a less than admirable period in the culture en masse, but who knows, really, what the future portends ..

          • Kema

            “right now, for me, we are in a less than admirable period in the culture en masse”

            I think all male MC’s will cry into their raps showing greater emotion.

        • Star_Child

          From a rap standpoint I don’t think that an artist like KRSOne wants to achieve the financial success of a Jay-Z rather he does have integrity and truly raps to educate and uplift his people. He won’t be going platinum any time soon and I don’t think that he cares.

          From an R&B/Rock standpoint, I don’t think that Prince is concerned with dominating the charts or going multi-platinum. He truly maintains his artistic integrity and makes the music he likes without consideration for what’s currently hot on the charts.

          • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

            KRS is such a fascinating cat. i really admire the way he goes about his business. he is singularly uncompromising in his vision of how to live.

            one of my favorite things he has done recently is The Gospel of Hip Hop. it’s impressive in how vast his overstanding is.

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

          @Panama, et al.:
          The real question is WHY can’t Conscious Rap make money??? I say it’s because what it represents is NOT what we actually value, at the end of the day.

          That Bradley Effect is a heck of a drug…

          O.

          • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

            it could make money. but it does not. this is a testament to the integrity of both the industry and the media, the powerbrokers who call the shots.

            • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

              @Ms. Esa:
              No. It is a testament to what WE, Black People Writ Large, actually value. Like I said, the Bradley Effect is a powerful drug.

              For so many Black people, the Power of Agency/Responsibility, is a very scary thing. It is because they only see it from one end of the axis – the end that holds you and you alone, accountable, if/when things go wrong. And it is completely understandable as to why so many Black folk would want to avoid fully embracing such a concept. I get it.

              But what they so often don’t understand, is how fully embracing such a thing is the Key to Freedom; if I have the power to make choices and make a bad one, I also have the power to make good choices, too. Yes, it’s difficult. But it can be done.

              The problem we have when it comes to Conscious Rap, is that it isn’t as appealing as the other stuff (read: Rick Ross) – and that’s OK. We should have the right to buy and consume whatever we wish.

              But in so doing, we cannot then put the blame on corporations and the like for consuming such products. We chose to purchase and consume them. Period.

              Continuing to make excuses such as you’ve done, deliberately or otherwise, actually does Black folks more harm than good. Instead, we need to be talking about what happens when we make bad choices, and encouraging each other to consider them more carefully.

              O.

              • http://missrosen.worpress.com esa

                ~ Continuing to make excuses such as you’ve done, deliberately or otherwise, actually does Black folks more harm than good.

                hmm. i answered your question, based on my experience with the industry. i may not be the best person to speak on their behalf, but i know what i have seen.

                i also know what i have done, both personally in in collaboration with others, to stand on behalf of the Good. i shall continue to follow my mission, which does not involve arguing with you but rather sharing Love.

                peace, Mr. O ~*~

                • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                  @Ms. Esa,
                  LOL. Our great country was born out of a terrible “argument”; indeed, it is quintessentially American to be “argumentative”.

                  What is really meant by such things, is that there isn’t a desire to really examine the arguments put forth; I am arguing for Personal Agency; you are not. That’s fine’ clarity is better than agreement.

                  Salaam to you, too, Ms. Esa.

                  O.

          • Todd

            +1

          • h.h.h.

            “The real question is WHY can’t Conscious Rap make money???”

            define “make money”?

            are we talking “i’m good” money? or “balling” money?

            i mean, a ‘conscious rapper’ has to make a song…that sounds, sonically good. just because you rap about the CISPA being pushed by the HR over fruityloops, doesn’t mean you deserve airplay…

            so you gotta have that sound, that MAKES people want to listen. listen to what you’re talking about.

            does this ‘conscious rapper’ connect to the public, to the fans?

            does the marketing behind this ‘conscious rapper’ put him in positions where his music can be heard…outside of the radio stations? so that the radio stations can see that playing this 4 minute ‘conscious rap song’ keeping people tuned to his station, keeps his PPM numbers consistent, keeping advertisers happy with the rates they’re paying?

            but…i could be wrong. i don’t have ‘facts’. just a theory i overheard. :)

            • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

              @Triple H:
              You make a very sound point about any rapper being considered “sonically good”, and I’ve long argued that one thing seriously holding back the vast majority of conscious rappers is they have suck producers. As Public Enemy have shown, if your production is tight, you can be downright militant and make ballin’ money.

              O.

          • Kema

            “The real question is WHY can’t Conscious Rap make money??? ”

            Why dont people pick healthy food over greasy fattening food? Some people will pick healthy food because it is healthy but the majority will only pick healthy when it taste good.

            • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

              @Ms. Kema:
              I don’t disagree with a single thing you said; those on the selling side of the equation simply have to make their product appealing; being “conscious” is not enough, for better or for worse.

              O.

          • http://learninglover.com AfterMath

            I feel like conscious rappers have an inherent problem because nobody wants to dance to Dear Mama or a song about politics. There are certain natural sexual urges that we have and so many conscious rappers choose to ignore that part of society and wonder why they can’t get above a certain level. Or when they talk about a booty suddenly they’re not conscious…unless they’ve got some Andre 3000 type of a skillset going for them.

            • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

              @AM:
              I agree; I think there’s definitely a way to approach this that both gets the message over and at the same time, makes the ladies wanna shake their behinds. It’s been done before, and it can be done again.

              Oh, and by the way, I’ve been checking out your blog – keep up the good work!

              O.

              • http://learninglover.com AfterMath

                Thanks!

          • http://www.wddij.com The Ruthless Wonder

            Because most of the hardcore conscious rappers really don’t provide a level of entertainment value along with their intellectual approaches. I blasted Immortal technique for exactly that reason. He has interesting subject matter but inevitably he comes off as boring preachy non gospel, gospel rap with base level itellect. You want to impress me? Make something that entertains as it informs. They can’t help being boring, I get that. But I can’t help not buying it or recommending it either.

      • Asiyah

        “He’s got a point. Look at who was running the industry then and look at who’s running it now.”

        Yup.

    • Amazonian Midget

      “but I’m going to buy the next Tech N9ne album”
      Shout out to my hometown..*in my Tech N9ne voice* Kansas City!

      I’ve always said Tech N9ne has way more talent than the vast majority of mainstream rappers.

      • http://www.wddij.com The Ruthless Wonder

        ^S^trange! Music.

  • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

    “What’s your religion?”

    To the surprise of no one, its Disney/Pixar. YES they are one unit because they married (I was LEGIT sad when they broke up for a short time, but they gravy now).

    I am a Stan. Not so much a Stan where I can’t take a joke/shade about them (shout out to my fave anti-Disney homie, miss t-lee) but I swear fo’ Scar’s virgin remy weave, I will defend the entire frick and frack out of Disney/Pixar and snatch your wig so far for it, I will make you wish upon a star.

    And then, I’ll just keep swimming…

    • http://www.wddij.com The Ruthless Wonder

      Even Song of the South and the black centaur in Fantasia?

      • Sweet GA Brown

        Fantasia….I loved The Never Ending Story.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        zip-a-dee-do-dah…

      • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

        Yeahhhhhh that’s one of the things I acknowledge about them (hence me saying I can take joke/shade)… like, I’m aware. But the made my childhood dopesauce. And yours too.

        Also, I LOVED Fantasia. I was one of the few kids that thoroughly enjoyed that (most kids said it was boring). Good music abound.

    • Rewind

      As much as I love anything Pixar related…Lilo & Stitch sh*ts on all of it.

      *shows off my Disney tattoo*.

      • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

        I LOVE Lilo and Stitch. Never thought to compare any of it to Pixar, tho. LOL

        Then again, I don’t see em competition. I WILL say this, tho… Disney’s CGI film attempts WITHOUT Pixar have been… MEHHHHHH.

        • Rewind

          No one should be able to do CGI with the permission of Pixar or Lucasarts…because both companies are Gods at that stuff.

          • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

            Yup, and collaborated.

            There’s just not… as much attention to detail and story when Pixar ain’t involved in those types of films.

          • http://www.wddij.com The Ruthless Wonder

            You mean were in Lucasarts case right? Since they are officially dismantled Disney property. R.I.P. Grim Fandango.

    • http://www.twitter.com/epsilonicus Eps

      I always use Up as a great example of Pixar magic. Up was a kids movie that adeptly handled the issue of aging and how to handle life after losing a spouse, something that even more “grown-up” movies have failed. And yet kids AND adults get it and appreciate it. THAT is some dope storytelling. Take that Tyler Perry.

      • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

        Man, “Up” should be studied in film classes all over the world if it’s not already. For the reason you said (handling something so dark for kids to understand/enjoy is no easy feat) and the simple fact of that opening montage. They gave us all the backstory with very little dialogue and music, and had dayum near everyone crying without even really knowing the characters yet.

        That ish is dopesauce.

        Actually, if you didn’t cry when you watched that, you eat babies.

      • http://learninglover.com AfterMath

        I know I’m late as all get out by I just want to give some love to Up. That movie has me tearing up. Best cartoon dunce Lion King

  • The Other Jerome

    Why so seriousssss :-)

    I actually don’t understand why people are so serious about music. It’s entertainment, nothing more.

    Why the long drawn out battles about mainstream vs underground, keeping it real (musically) vs selling out?

    Why do people always complain about the music on the radio? Do people not have sirius/mp3 players/cd’s?

    I know i’m swimming against the current here, but even if its all Beiber, all the time on your (formerly) favorite radio station, why can’t people use one of the 50 other musical options at their disposal?

    If my favorite group of all time, the one and only “Wu-Tang Clan”, decided to make a K-pop album ^_^ i wouldn’t be mad. I would just hope they were getting paid.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

      “Why do people always complain about the music on the radio? Do people not have sirius/mp3 players/cd’s?”

      To be fair, a lot of the complaints are justified. Tat whole Telecommunications Act from 1996 is the primary reason why radio is so bad as of now.

      As a person who used to subscribe to Sirius Satellite Radio, they were decent at one point- at least until the FCC got involved.

      They cracked down on Sirius and forced them to start paying royalties for the songs they played. That decision made their subscription fee go up about five dollars and the end result is that satellite radio became as bland, corporate and homogenized as terrestrial radio.

      • The Other Jerome

        Shade 45 pretty cool.

        I don’t know, i think we have options. What more can you ask for?

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      cuz music ain’t that big a deal to you clearly. for others it is. for some it could be jordans. just depends.

      • Becky

        I say this! Babies in the womb are soothed and recognize music after they are born. To me that explains music as more than entertainment! :-) (all though they are being entertained)You get what I’m saying!

      • The Other Jerome

        See i feel you. Don’t get me wrong. Not only do i love music, but for the longest i collected music. Even if they were a 1 hit wonder, i had to have the CD. I believe im the only ninja alive who has DJ Yella’s solo album. :-) By the way, it’s trash in case you were wondering….

        So i have passion about music. It’s just…

        Years ago i got into this long flame war on allhiphop* over Eminem. These old heads were adamant that Marshal was destroying hiphop because of his whiteness or his pop-ness or whatever. These dudes were serious and anyone that disagreed was a “Stan”. This was the prevailing wisdom at any hiphop site at the time.

        Fast forward to today. The dude is considered a HOF-er. Competition for GOAT status. So what happened?

        Perspective. One man’s generic pop, is another man’s classic.

        I can’t wait to hear what kids 8-9 years old will be listening to when they become adults!

        *Back when i too, used to go to war over music

        • http://remthemulatto.tumblr.com RemTheMulatto

          Trillest thing I’ve read today..

    • h.h.h.

      “Why do people always complain about the music on the radio?”

      i actually listened to a nice convo on this topic on a podcast.

      it’s funny how this is one of the few mediums where you black men can get paid off of speaking about their dreams and fantasies…but at the same time, their fans want them to continue to struggle, instead of cheering for success.

      i’m generalizing. maybe. i’m a XTian, so apparently its what i do, #AmIRite?

      • The Other Jerome

        “i’m generalizing. maybe. i’m a XTian, so apparently its what i do, #AmIRite?”

        I’m glad you’ve admitted your faults lol

        I would have loved to hear that podcast!

        • h.h.h.

          if you can find it, the hosts of the Combat Jack show interview’d Ebro from hot 97. a lot of what E was saying made sense to me.

  • The Other Jerome

    And i’m not religious, i’m spiritual.

    It’s the only thing that makes sense to me. Plus X-ian’s are so fake and hypocritical that i can only sit through 1.5 services before i start getting pissed.

    • Charlie

      Just a question; what does spiritual mean? Do you fit the definition of agnostic? deist? What do you have to do in order to be spiritual?

      • The Other Jerome

        Well besides the dues and fees, not much :-)

        I believe in God. Just not organized Religion. The goal of Religion seems to be to put a man (or woman) between you and God.

        And by “God” i don’t mean the Christian or Muslim definition. I mean the part of us that is greater than ourselves.

        Higher power if you will.

        Not judging, not damning

        • Charlie

          alright, you fit the definition of a deist. I guess those terms are interchangeable when explaining the thought process behind them. but ok do you

          • http://www.alltherightquestions.com T.Q. Fuego

            “alright, you fit the definition of a deist.”

            Smh, you just had to find a neat lil box to fit him in huh? lol (no shade at you btw)

            “The goal of Religion seems to be to put a man (or woman) between you and God.”

            Yup. Several men women between you and God even. Plus I need an understanding not a belief.

            • Charlie

              “Smh, you just had to find a neat lil box to fit him in huh?”

              I actually laughed out loud at this.

        • http://remthemulatto.tumblr.com RemTheMulatto

          Vibes

      • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

        ~ What do you have to do in order to be spiritual?

        i would say you don’t have to do, you already are ~*~

        • Charlie

          so whats different about the people who are not?

          • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

            awareness.

            i realize i’m being vague. i think everyone is spiritual, but some are not aware of these energies.

            i’m also a bit reticent to try to define what i feel, if only because it’s my experience and i do not know that it has Universal application.

            but there was a point in my life where i was a straight zero on spirituality and once i became conscious of that, and declared this was something i needed in my life, i simply opened myself to the possibility and was flooded with light.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

      “Plus X-ian’s are so fake and hypocritical that i can only sit through 1.5 services before i start getting pissed.”

      *shots fired*

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        definitely shots fired.

      • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

        I don’t like when people try to force their religion/church on me. Conversation I had with a stranger the other day:

        HER: Which church do you attend?

        ME: I don’t go to church.

        HER: Oh. Well you should come to my church! I attend St. Mark.

        ME: I’ve been there before.

        HER: Well you should come back!

        ME: trying not to be rude Um, ok. Maybe.

        HER: We have a new pastor now, plus three services! You’ll like it!

        ME: sigh

        I really need to come up with a standard line for people who ask me about church. Maybe… Thank you, but I’m not interested in attending church? I don’t know. People can be really pushy sometimes.

        • camilleblu

          yes aly….christians tend to assume that you do not attend church b/c you are not attending THEIR church. for all that christians stand for, we can be extremely over-simplistic. and judgemental.

          • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

            Fortunately I’ve met some Christians who aren’t this way, but the ones who are are really annoying lol.

          • Sweet GA Brown

            I can recall going to my friends church on the night she was getting baptized. The night doubled as Bible study. Its all good I didnt mind to attend. Then they opened the doors of the church long enough for me to be the first time visitor that came as a friend of someone who just got saved which supposedly meant that I wasnt saved and I needed Jesus.

            “Anybody out there that wants to come to the Lord…..Anybody can come forward now….turn to your neighbor and say neighbor…”

            It always makes me feel like Im doing something wrong although I am saved and I’m a member of another church. I guess I dont give off the “holy roller” vibe which is cool. Then again at the church Im a member of, but dont go to that often, I dont feel that way even if no one recognizes me. *shrugs

          • Asiyah

            it’s not just Christians who are guilty of that. I think we’re all guilty of something to that extent, even when it comes to things that have nothing to do with religion. It’s like we fail to acknowledge a life outside of ourselves. For example, let’s say you are a hip-hop head. You ask someone if s/he heard the new Kanye song (assuming that’s who you like). S/he says, “I haven’t. I don’t listen to that music.” A lot of people will jump the gun and assume that because s/he doesn’t listen to that specific type of music, that s/he doesn’t listen to music at all.

            • h.h.h.

              “it’s not just Christians who are guilty of that. I think we’re all guilty of something to that extent, even when it comes to things that have nothing to do with religion”

              you mean, Christians are human?

              Woooooowwww…well, my mind is blown. ;)

              • Asiyah

                tsk tsk can’t believe you just heard this now!

        • TheOpinionated1

          I don’t like that either. Everytime I tell people I don’t go to church often they seem to feel obligated to help me “find my religion”. lol I believe in God, just don’t care for religion.

          I’ve been to St. Mark before. I can’t do big churches. Not my thing, and after that scandal with their old pastor…no thanks.

          • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

            “I believe in God, just don’t care for religion.”

            +1

            • 2Rawtid

              +1

          • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

            Girl! That was some drama with the pastor, wasn’t it? Yup, even when I did go to church, mega churches weren’t my thing. It’s overwhelming and makes you feel a little lost in the crowd, so to speak. It’s hard to connect when there are SO many people.

            • TheOpinionated1

              @Aly

              Exactly. If i’m going to church I want to be able to have a relationship with my pastor. When I do attend church I go to a small church in my hometown. Lately “when I do attend” has consisted of holidays lol but hey…it is what it is.

            • Sweet GA Brown

              This is so wrong but what happened with the old pastor?

              • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

                He had an affair with the wife of a couple he was counseling and was forced to resign.

                http://www.fox16.com/news/story/Special-Report-Bishop-Arnolds-Fall-From-Grace/mtIhMd9PtU26yfylRuFTkw.cspx

                TO1 will correct me if I’m wrong, but I think he’s had multiple affairs with members of his congregation.

                • Sweet GA Brown

                  SMH. This is why ppl dont like counseling.

                • mena

                  This is why I can’t roll with church. These men view themselves as gods.

                  • Sweet GA Brown

                    Sounds like sweet daddy such and such’s church.

        • Rewind

          Aly, this is exactly how every church related conversation goes for me.

          I don’t want to go. And no one wants to understand that.

        • http://www.twitter.com/Bmorebmw Tentpole

          Ally I rather that conversation than have to listen to the Witness sales pitch at my door.

        • nillalatte

          LOL… My line is… “I don’t go to church. I’m heathen.” Folks tend to look all scared or confused. I guess they are trying to figure out how to save me or are stunned that I just admit to being a heathen. LMBO

          • missritac

            That sounds like some isht I would say, lol. And I have to tell that to family on the regular.

        • http://learninglover.com AfterMath

          Its called I go to Bedside Baptist

      • Wild Cougar

        Tell em why you’re mad

    • Mr. SD

      Spiritual = lazy asses….lol

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        Spoken like a true Christian.

      • Sweet GA Brown

        How so?

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          The Other Jerome stated that he is spiritual and not religious. So this guy comes along and totally disrespects him by saying he’s lazy. So, my point is that he’s (Mr. SD) not acting like a Christian. He’s being intolerant and disparaging.

          • Sweet GA Brown

            Im a christian and what he said rubbed me the wrong way too. I kind of agree with Mr. SD’s explanation below.

        • Mr. SD

          Not so much intolerant, its just that my generation (im 33) is the microwave generation. We don’t want to wait for anything. Specifically if it doesn’t add up or make sense to us in 3.5 seconds. I think we came up with the notion of not being “religious but spiritual” because we don’t care to actually learn about religion. Its like saying I’m in college but I choose to not study. Its an easy out. Its nothing wrong with being spiritual, its a practice all in itself.

          • Kema

            Well let me confuse it even more. I’m a Christian that is in between spiritual and religious with a little bit of buddhist teachings thrown in for flavor.

          • Sweet GA Brown

            There is 2 sides to this. There are ppl that have and haven’t studied and that dont want any parts of religion. I dont think a spiritual person is lazy because, like you said, it is a practice.

          • The Other Jerome

            “I think we came up with the notion of not being “religious but spiritual” because we don’t care to actually learn about religion.”
            Failblog

            I’m willing to bet that most Spiritualists know more about religion (especially the Christian variety) the Religious folk do.

            And i KNOW that most Atheists know more about religion.

            I started out very religious and dead serious about it. My pastors plan was for me to become a preacher and i moved in that direction.

            Then came an awakening and awareness of general hypocrisy of church goers. People tend to pick and choose what part of the Bible to believe as long as it’s convenient. For example, today many churches are becoming less homophobic. I suspect people just arent reading the homophobic passages anymore. Or perhaps they believe it’s just a “metaphor”.

            At any rate, Churches collectively decide to do that sort of thing all of the time. And once you notice that pattern, you’re well on your way :-)

            After that i just started researching religions historically. The similarity between all religions is ridiculous. Seriously, how many crucified saviors have humans had throughout history?

            The more i researched, the angrier (and sanctimonious) i became until i was basically Atheist (and an Atheist internet troll/d*ck to boot. For that i apologize, just as i apologize for that x-ian dig, old habits and all that)

            When i calmed down i started noticing the spiritual commonalities in religion. And THAT is what made sense to me.

            So though it can be fun, at first, to be a d*ck, especially to people who don’t know as much as you do, in the end it’s a negative vibe/emotion. The type that stunts your growth. So i let that go as well.

            And that is how i became spiritual. I’m part of your generation Mr SD. But i don’t think any part of what i’ve described came to me in 3.5 seconds. And i’m pretty sure most other spiritual types give a lot of thought to their positions as well.

            • Mr. SD

              I def appreciate your response. And its great that you actually took the time out to learned about religion(s) before you decided to go “religious”. Its always been ironic to me how most Atheist are more informed about religion then ya typical church folks.

            • http://www.alltherightquestions.com T.Q. Fuego

              Amen TOJ, he made himself sound very ignorant with that statement (and the half @ss inaccurate explanation)

    • 2Rawtid

      +1000. same here.

  • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

    I would have to say romantic relationships are my religion. Although there have been many things that I’ve felt passionate about throughout my life, relationships have always elicited the most passion in me.

    They inspire me to look for ways to be a better person. They nourish and foster spiritual growth. They inspire ambition.

    Romantic relationships become almost godlike for me. I study them. I get emotional and spiritual strength from them. Some I even come to worship almost as a higher power in my life.

    So, relationships are my religion.

    • nillalatte

      Um, no. That is one religion that I would string garlic around my neck, grab a wooden stick, and make silver bullets! Sigh… yeah, relationships apparently are not my thing.

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        Lol. Nilla, love is what life is all about!

        • Mr. SD

          I’m wit u on this one Val…Relationships make the work go round!

          • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

            Yep, they do.

      • Asiyah

        I was just thinking that Nilla lol like I would totally fail at that religion loool

        • Kema

          I would fail but for some reason I would still believe.

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          You can’t fail if you learn and keep trying.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

      “Romantic relationships become almost godlike for me. I study them. I get emotional and spiritual strength from them. Some I even come to worship almost as a higher power in my life.”

      I wish I could feel this way, but relationships and love doesn’t exactly elicit this kind of response within me. Not that I’m bitter, angry or anything of the sort (I’ll leave that to the professionals *Muttley snicker*).

      Here’s where I’m going with this, Val. I know I’m going to offend the hopeless romantics and wayward lovers, but love and relationships are not really that important in the grand scheme of things.

      Have I been in love? Absolutely. But I’m just not there with putting love on a pedestal like that. Love- much like everything else in the world- is just as harmful as it is helpful…if not moreso. I don’t know, but it just seems a little strange on my end. From my end, it reeks of desperation- maybe it’s just me…

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        Lol@you taking a shot at we all know who.

        Welp, I’m sorry you feel that way, PA. Love is a wonderful thing and relationships are the fruits of love. I suppose our life experiences can turn us on or off to relationships. I guess I’m lucky that I feel the way that I do.

        Does the way you feel (about love and relationships) have anything to do with not wanting to be/ feel vulnerable?

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

          “Lol@you taking a shot at we all know who.”

          Nah, I didn’t fire a shot at anyone in particular. That’s just something I say when it’s something that I don’t deal with on an everyday basis. There are people that do (and have even made a business into marketing unhappiness), but that’s not the road I’d prefer to go on.

          “Welp, I’m sorry you feel that way, PA. Love is a wonderful thing and relationships are the fruits of love. I suppose our life experiences can turn us on or off to relationships. I guess I’m lucky that I feel the way that I do.

          Does the way you feel (about love and relationships) have anything to do with not wanting to be/ feel vulnerable?”

          Most of it has to do with my overall view of the world as well as me getting older. As you know, I’m nearing 40 and love doesn’t really excite me that much. It was cute when I was younger, but I deal with love the same way I deal with birthdays at my age. You’re always going to experience it, so there’s no need to treat it like a “first time” thing.

          • kid video

            +1,000

            • kid video

              Im past that “love is everythang” phase also…I cant see how a grown man could benefit from that unless he got books/plays/movies to peddle.

              I just got hard Dwyck and bubble gum…and I just ran out of my last piece.

              • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                My mindset as of now is that I’m indifferent to how things turn out between me and a woman. If things work out? Cool. If not? Oh well…on to the next one.

                I’m just not that type of person that will be all head over heels in love, singin’ in the rain on some Gene Kelly sh*t. I’m past that now. These days, I’ll be more impressed by a woman who can either act her age or can read book other than a romance novel or street literature. Forget Teri Woods, what’s good with Robert Ludlum? LOL!

                • kid video

                  woman who can either act her age or can read book other than a romance…

                  Im impressed by woman that know how/enjoy cooking…they are the Dodo birds of modern U.S. society.

                  • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                    Finding a woman that can actually cook? That’s like finding a copy of Blu & Exile’s “Below The Heavens” for cheap, LMAO!!

                    • missritac

                      I can cook my @ss off, we exist…you just need to know where to look :)

                • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

                  ~ Forget Teri Woods

                  nevaaaaa !

                  but i believe in balance. yesterday i was reading the new Shirt Kings book ~*~

                  • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                    But…but…but…it’s Teri Woods, Esa.

                    • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

                      i know ! i interviewed her. we talked for three hours straight ~*~ i love and respect her madly !!

                    • Kema

                      And whats wrong with Terri woods? I’m going to have to look for that book Esa.

                • Rewind

                  “My mindset as of now is that I’m indifferent to how things turn out between me and a woman. If things work out? Cool. If not? Oh well…on to the next one.”

                  This is gospel.

                  I think we need to work together to put together our own version of the Bible, called the Black Book of Common Sense.

                  • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                    Hey, I’m down.

                    However, if it does get published, you know some people are goig to take issue with what’s being said in the book.

                    That’s what happens when you try to speak the truth.

                    • Kema

                      Thats what happens when your truth is different than someone’s else truth. If you go througp another change and love becomes everything again that would be your new truth. ;-)

                    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                      Loiwut, Kema? LOL!

                • nillalatte

                  “My mindset as of now is that I’m indifferent to how things turn out between me and a woman. If things work out? Cool. If not? Oh well…on to the next one.”

                  No shot at you PA, but, to me, this screams that “I am not totally invested in whatever relationship because women come and women go” type of attitude. I’m just wondering what does it take for you to make that investment?

                  • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                    Here’s the thing, Nillalatte. I’m a person that looks for certain things in a woman. Sure, she may be cute, but it takes more than a nice ass and a pretty face to get my attention.

                    • nillalatte

                      Okay, I get that. I look for certain characteristics in a man too. But, you deflected from the question. What does it take for you to make an investment in a woman? And, this goes back to my belief that some men never quite invest their emotions into a relationship like a woman. And, that, too me, is why certain women (like me) keep my emotional distance and never invest either. Do you see the cycle?

                    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                      Believe or not, I did answer your question- I didn’t deflect in the very least. As I have said before, it takes more than physical features to make me become emotionally invested in a woman. At my age, I’ve seen a lot of pretty women, but not enough good women.

          • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

            “I’m nearing 40 and love doesn’t really excite me that much.”

            Hmmm, that’s interesting. But, I suppose everyone has their own priorities. It sounds like love isn’t one of yours.

            • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

              To be honest Val, it’s not so much that it’s not a high priority, I’m just being realistic as a grown ass man.

              • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                @PA:
                I think what you’re saying is the general view of Men overall; here’s the problem though:

                In the world in which we now live, having a view such as yours, will be seen as “wrong” or “bad” or somehow “not right”; simply put, males just don’t put the same kind of value and emphasis on love and the like in the ways that Women (apparently both straight and lesbo) do, and there’s NOTHING in the least wrong with that; it just is.

                We need to stop trying to force Men to be Women. It. Won’t. Work.

                And just may wind up blowing up in our faces. Instead, we need to cultivate all that “tolerance” and “empathy” we keep being bludgeoned to death with by the PC Police…

                O.

                O.

                • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                  “In the world in which we now live, having a view such as yours, will be seen as “wrong” or “bad” or somehow “not right”; simply put, males just don’t put the same kind of value and emphasis on love and the like in the ways that Women (apparently both straight and lesbo) do, and there’s NOTHING in the least wrong with that; it just is.”

                  Obsidian, I’m very familiar with this concept. I’ve had at least fifteen years experience on it. I’ve been labeled just about everything in the book- all because of that pesky little issue called ” having standards”.

                  • missritac

                    I understand where you are coming from. I haven’t given up on love but I am at a if it happens then it happens, if it doesn’t, it doesn’t point in my life. I like and appreciate what I like and I am not willing to compromise that for anyone. Did that enough in my younger years.

                    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                      Tha about sums it up for me.

      • Rewind

        You’re not alone PA. I damn near feel the same way you do. Love is important, but it is in my opinion, the best and worst thing to ever happen to a person. So I don’t hold it in high regard. It has its merits, but I don’t see why those merits alone should trascend time and space.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

          Here’s what’s so strange about it though. If you notice, the same people who are angry and hurt about failed relationships are the same ones that put love on a pedestal. I’ve been living almost 38 years and have seen this too many times to count.

          Here’s what people don’t understand about me and my postion on love and relationships: There’s living in a fantasy and then there’s living in a reality. I prefer to deal with reality.

          • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

            ~ If you notice, the same people who are angry and hurt about failed relationships are the same ones that put love on a pedestal.

            nice. i can agree that once upon a time i was this person.

            but ! now i think i am in a more comfortable place. love is not on a pedestal; it is both sacred and profane. it’s something i uphold through my practice of self actualization while simultaneously releasing myself of acting out in negativity.

            that Love, that is greater than romance. it’s about a level of self awareness that i did not previously have.

            which makes it easier to be realistic about romance. as in wrong man for me is the right man for someone else. and that is freedom like nothing else ~*~

    • Todd

      No offense, but can I say that seems stalkerish? Relationships should be that serious. :)

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

        *closes piano, gets up and leaves*

      • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

        with all due respect, may i ask why relationships should not be that serious ?

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        Stalkerish? Lol. How do you come up with that?

        • Todd

          Perhaps it’s just Ke, but that kind f devotion to relationships often results in damaged property, boiled bunnies and/ or law enforcement getting involved. I prefer relationships to just be, not be exalted. But that is just me.

          • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

            Wow, really? It’s actually kind of sad that you feel that way, Todd. Devotion doesn’t necessarily equal unhealthy or obsession. I guess for the most part my relationships have been very good, so I have a positive view of them.

            • http://TheNewEve.com Bunni

              Its about knowing how to balance your devotion to the person you’re with and not losing yourself in it. It def doesnt have to be stalkerish or dangerous. Its more than fluffy feelings and romantic comedies. To truly be in love with someone, you see God in them, and I’ve never experienced a dangerous devotion to someone in that regard.

              • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

                Yep, balance is the key word. You will lose your equilibrium at times during a relationship but that shouldn’t be a constant. Most times relationships should, if they are good ones, inspire and promote balance.

                • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                  @Ms. Val:
                  Are you familiar with Ross Douthat? He wrote quite a bit about marriage recently, Gay Marriage in particular, and how it reflects the grand shift away from marriage as an institutional model, to one where marriage is now seen as a soulmate model. What do you make of that?

                  O.

    • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

      ~ Romantic relationships become almost godlike for me. I study them. I get emotional and spiritual strength from them. Some I even come to worship almost as a higher power in my life.

      i feel you Miss Val ~*~

      one man i was with (or really, umm without) was my path to God. not religion. or even God as like thas His name, but Love, Hope, and Faith (whereas i was previously a confirmed atheist).

      i could go on and onn but i agree, the transformative nature of Love, communion, and connection can transform a person in ways they could never imagine how ~*~

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        transformative is a perfect way to describe what I’m saying, Esa.

      • Wild Cougar

        To love purely is to be a smaller version of God

        • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

          beautiful ~*~

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          Yes, that is beautiful.

          • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

            +1

    • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

      That’s lovely, Val. I wish I could have the same passion for relationships.

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        Hiya, Aly!

        *waves*

        :-)

        Yep, relationships are my thing!

        • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

          *waving* Hey Val!

    • http://TheNewEve.com Bunni

      You know what….I think I’m with you on that one, Val…glad you articulated it for me

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        Good to know I’m not the only one. :-)

    • Rewind

      I don’t know how to care about anything that much Val, so if that is the way your heart works, then that is interesting. But my heart is indifferent. I can’t make anything “special” in my eyes, it just exists, and exists for a purpose. Eventually that purpose will die and a new version will come about.

      I guess we’re all built differently

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        You haven’t always felt this way, have you?

        • Rewind

          I grew into it. When I was a kid, I was hooked on the Disney fantasy of love. I believed all the adults around me where the models for the ideal love. Then life happened. I learned the truth about everything, and I realized the best way to be happy with my heart is to be honest with it.

          Love isn’t forever. A good marriage doesn’t work by hiding the truth from others. There is no such thing as one person only to love. And people have a hard time separating the person in their head from the person in their face.

          I don’t see how any of this is wrong, it is just taking life & love at face value, instead of manipulating my emotions to believe in things that will never be.

      • KENYADIGIT

        Im with you on that one. Relationships need to be pragmatic.

        • Rewind

          Exactly, everything begins and ends for a reason.

  • minxbrie

    “What’s your religion?”

    Fashion. My heart will always belong to the industry, I’m pretty sure I would be a much better student if I didn’t spent 60% of my time reading, writing and shopping. I’m currently working on developing a thesis and if I suddenly come into money/Armaggeddon doesn’t rain down upon us, I would love to do my MA at Parsons.

    This isn’t Single Black Female Addicted to Retail Syndrome. Both my parents are in fashion (*shamless plug to anyone in NYC, my mother is in the Artists and Fleas pop up shop at Chelsea Market until Sunday! #shopholbrooke and help me stay in school!) and in the past 8 or so years, I feel like I keep learning more ways to look at fashion as more than just clothes… And shoes…and makeup…

    I’m basically trying to be a fashion theorist on some Anna Wintour level.

    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

      Anna Wintour though? She’s so, so, I don’t know, annoying?

      But, I used to be addicted to fashion mags. I didn’t want to work in the industry or anything, I just loved the mags. I still collect vintage mags with Black models on the covers. I have most of the (classic) Elle’s from the late 90′s with Black models covering and a few Vogues as well.

      • minxbrie

        Anna may be annoying but she’s not going anywhere and she’s still one of the select that can make you or break you. I just think having that kind of cultural authority is crazy, because my girl hasn’t even changed her haircut in 30 years and she’s still in that bubble.

        I also may have watched/read The Devil Wears Prada one time too many and now I think I’m Andy Sachs… :D

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          Lol. That movie was a trip.

    • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

      ~ I’m basically trying to be a fashion theorist on some Anna Wintour level.

      i highly recommend Valerie Steele. she is just .. wow ~*~

      • minxbrie

        I LOVE Valerie Steele.

        I’m trying to find Fetish: Fashion,Sex and Power here but maybe I’ll have better luck in the US…

        • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

          Feitsh is the best ! i read that at the right time in my life, when i actually bothered to get dressed ~*~ they have it on Amazon.com

          • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

            oop Fetish !

  • http://vagabondaesthetics.tumblr.com Malik

    In my younger days it was definitely Tekken and Gran Turismo. For like 4 years straight I’d put in at least 2 hours each day into those. So that’s 1000s of hours between them. If I had a Gospel now it would definitely be jazz/hip-hop. That’s where I lay my head more than anything else.

    • http://learninglover.com AfterMath

      I can relate to the Tekken, as I had a Madden phase where I’m playing and looking at you sideways if you claimed to be an expert but couldn’t run a kick back or block a punt, or if you’ve got to go with whoever’s hot right now.

    • Rewind

      Adventure games & J-RPGS used to be my crack (Metal Gear Solid, Kingdom Hearts 1&2, Final Fantasy IX, etc)…but eventually it died out.

      • Kema

        I use to ignore the world for some Final Fantasy!

        • Rewind

          Kema was a gamer? Say word.

  • Charcoal Burnt Brother Lover

    Right this minute, my religion is LUKE JAMES. GAWD! Like, ghatdamb somebody please call 911. His edjumacated artistry is something else.

    Otherwise, entrepreneurship.

    • Charlie

      I can see why people find him attractive, but i just get generic fine black man steez from him. Similar to how I feel about Lance Gross. Oh well who am I to talk, I swoon every time I see Ezra Klein pop up on MSNBC, D’Angelo puckers his lips in How does it feel, and when Micheal Pitt does the same in Boardwalk Empire.

      • Charcoal Burnt Brother Lover

        His attractiveness is secondary to his talent. His talent is my religion. For me his looks are just a plus. I think he is pretty looking.

        Lance may be generic, but he is BURNT properly, just how I like em. D’Angelo is OVERrated. That Pitt guy, is special looking….

        • Charlie

          hahahaha yea my taste is different.

      • Kema

        He looks like my mailman.

        • Charlie

          oh god stop lol

    • nillalatte

      ummm… ummm.. umm… can I join your religion Mami? That religion looks awfully enticing.

      • Charcoal Burnt Brother Lover

        Queen, be my guest. :)

    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

      Hiya, AM!

      *waves*

      :-)

      • Charcoal Burnt Brother Lover

        *waving*!! :)

    • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

      I had to Google him… why have I never heard of or seen this beautiful man before now?

      • mena

        You know I read Mami’s comment as Rick James?!? Lol. I thought we lost her.

        • Charcoal Burnt Brother Lover

          *dead*!! @Mena

          @ Aly,
          When I found his music I was like, this is a hidden gem. I found him last week. He probably has been in existence since Eve ate the apple.

    • 2Rawtid

      his voice is amazing! i loved that performance on black girls rock! LAWD.

      • Charcoal Burnt Brother Lover

        giiirl, his song “I want you” LIVE, is EVERYTHANG. This man can sang.

  • That Ugly Kid

    Videogames. I love playing them. I actually started going to school (DeVry) for videogame programming before I dropped out and signed up for the Marine Corps. One of my hobbies is drawing and writing concepts to my own original videogames.

    In fact, I’m posting this comment (as well all the comments I post) using my Playstation 3.

    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

      Have you been in video game contests?

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        Or maybe I should say tournaments?

      • That Ugly Kid

        Yes I have.

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          I saw a doc on TV (it might have been a MTV Truelife episode) about a guy who was a professional gamer. He travelled all over the world entering tournaments. It was really interesting.

    • http://learninglover.com AfterMath

      I’ve just gotten back into video games, but at a different level than before. When I was a kid I played just to play. Now I’m more into mastering the games and understanding the patterns (math) involved. But it does require a lot of research, so I can spend my free time playing video games and call it research.

      I once wanted to go into video game programming, but decided against it. Have you ever played with Scratch though? Its an app by MIT to help teach kids to program video games.

    • Rewind

      I like playing games now. I no longer love playing them. I’ve had this problem for a while now. At a certain point, some games stopped being fun and became work.