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What Happened To Craig Mack? (And Why Do So Many Ex-Bad Boy Artists Become Religious Fanatics?)

After a generally well received and meme-worthy Bad Boy reunion performance at the 2015 BET awards, the soon to be retired mogul Diddy took to Instagram to praise Lil Kim’s showmanship, and informally announce the coming of a Bad Boy Reunion tour. Earlier this year, he shared more details with DJ Khaled — the Dale Carnegie of rap — on his  “We The Best Radio” segment.

Diddy gushed:

“For the first time every hit record I ever did and every guest you could imagine is going to kick this tour off right,” Diddy says. “It’s a celebration. It’s a family reunion tour a.k.a the two-step tour.”

According to Puff, this is 20 years in the making, and Bad Boy recently dropped the tour dates, which starts August 25 and wraps up on October 8. The tour will include Lil Kim, Ma$e, Faith Evans, Mario Winans, 112, Total, Carl Thomas, The Lox, French Montana and there’s even a threat of a Notorious B.I.G. hologram. While some of the label’s more recent acts like Day 26, and Diddy’s mulatto boy group pet project B5 took to Instagram to lament their exclusion, there was a more conspicuous absence.

Undoubtedly, Biggie was definitely the rapper who is largely responsible for catapulting Bad Boy into hip hop notoriety. However it was Craig Mack’s platinum hit single “Flavor In Your Ear” and the star-studded and iconic remix and video that first permeated the minds of every wide eyed kid of the 90s staring at The Box. It introduced us to the skinny bottle-clinking mastermind now known as Puffy, and a then upcoming rapper Notorious BIG, who delivered arguably one of the best scene stealing features in rap history. If Biggie built the house of Bad Boy, Craig Mack is at least responsible for acquiring the land on which it was built.

So what happened to our distinctively faced, twa-toting fave? Well, he’s not banished into the Bad Boy basement like other long forgotten acts (Fuzzbubble, Dream, Cheri Dennis, Da Band, etc) or doing hard time for murder like G Dep, or recovering from a stress induced stroke after a grand larceny bid like Black Rob. No, Craig Mack took another traditional backdoor from Bad Boy: Religion. Joining the likes of Moses Michael Levi (the Orthodox Jewish gentlemen formerly known as Shyne), Amir Junaid Hawkins (formerly Loon…and also in jail on drug charges), and former Evangelical prosperity pastor Mason Betha (Ma$e who is no longer a pastor but now a more nefarious alter ego named Murda Ma$e).

Some time, after being dropped from Bad Boy around 1995 amid rumors of beefing with Biggie, and releasing an unsuccessful sophomore album in 1997, Mack folded into the arms of obscurity, and out of the public eye. He curiously resurfaced in 2012, on a shaky Youtube video.

Mack, with that trademark face and fro, is seen bopping and flailing about in exuberance, praising his new life of “righteousness” in some dank church surrounded by the White people from the farm on The Walking Dead. In one scene, controversial pastor, and church leader, Ralph Gordon Stair — otherwise known as Brother R.G. Stair “the prophet” — awkwardly stares into the camera and announces “Craig Mack is dead. We have somebody who used to be Craig Mack.” To which Mack responds by spouting his name into the microphone (Hint: it’s still Craig Mack), and then excitedly rebuking his old life of “wickedness.”

Currently, Mack is still a devout member of the Pentecostal Overcome Ministry commune, living quietly in Walerboro S.C. His family back in New Jersey, is reportedly unhappy with his being a member of what they refer to as a “cult,” and have little contact with him.

So what is it about Bad Boy that compels its artists to not only seek God, but run to extreme and at times almost acetic religious lifestyles after a life of celebrity? According to rapper and former Bad Boy signee Mark Curry in his 2009 tell-all Dancing with the Devil, How Puff Burned the Bad Boys of Hip-Hop (Editor’s Note: I totally thought this was a made up title until I googled it)it might have something to do with Diddy being Satan or at least Satan adjacent. Which honestly, is still a relatively mild accusation for a music industry exec. Or if you turn to renown YouTube occult experts I’m sure there is compelling evidence of Diddy doing the illuminati Belzebub Bop in hell, surrounded by lakes of fire and Ciroc, playing an endless loop of “Come With Me.”

The real answer however, can be way less Dan Brown-esque and salacious. It can all be a bizarre Hip Hop happenstance. According to Loon during a 2011 interview with Al Jazeera, his conversion was sparked while touring. During a stop to Dubai, he says he became captivated after hearing a call to prayer, and thus was inspired to learn more about Islam. Shyne notes that he actually began to identify as an Israelite by the age of 13 after discovering his great-grandmother was Ethiopian. By the time of his 1999 arrest for a nightclub shooting, he was already studying and praying daily. Today, he studies the Talmud, hobnobs with rabbis, and still releases rap albums. Entertainers turning to God after having lived a life of secular celebrity decadence is not at all uncommon. To date; the Lord has claimed Malice, Lady Saw, Crazy Eyed Kirk Cameron, Pebbles, and Chris Tucker’s talent among many others.

Bad Boy however, does have a distinct record. It can boast having produced devout members of all three major branches of Abrahamic religion from its former rosters. Whatever the reasons Craig Mack was inspired to follow the sectarian teachings of a creepy pentecostal prophet, they were likely formed way after his brief encounter with celebrity. Yes, it’s unfortunate and unlikely that Mack will ever waver on his religious morals like former rapper-turned-pastor-turned rapper Murda Ma$e, and brace the stage once again. I suppose it’s wrong to be the type of heathen who begrudges someone spiritual enlightenment, for the sake of nostalgic entertainment. We can still keep Lil Kim’s foundation selection lifted in prayer, and enjoy her and her illustrious Bad Boy brethren remind us of their glorious heyday. And maybe, just maybe, God will do us all a solid, and call on his child French Montana to forsake rap and embrace a life of ministry.

Lord Willin. God Bless Bad Boy.

Danielle Butler

Danielle Butler is a 30-ish yr old LA/Chicago hybrid whose mutant powers include shit talking, procrastinating, and relating any topic to food. Her favorite pastimes include watching Spongebob with her son, yelling at her cat, and lying about working on her book of short stories.

  • grabo2003

    I haven’t read the whole article yet, i just hollared at the headline! Lmaooo.

  • *Walterboro

    It’s a cult lead by a guy named Brother Stair and it’s much more strange than it sounds.

    • That is somehow scary and amazing.

      • To make things worse the guy who leads “the church” has a few chexual misconduct charges.

        • Of course he does! He isn’t manipulating all of those people for fun. He wants an earthly reward.

          • Tambra

            Cynic!

            • Sho’ you right! :)

              • Tambra

                #notallpastors

    • Julian Green

      The most confusing thing about this, to me, is why the heck would anybody choose to live in Walterboro?

      • brothaskeeper

        For the watermelon and access to the Flying J.

    • Tambra

      I just looked at the video. It is problematic on so many levels, but maybe when I get some sleep I can figure it out.

    • Yonnie

      I logged in to correct the spelling, lol. That’s where my people are from. Never knew Craig Mack lived there.

  • When you dance with the devil, eventually you are gonna find Black Geezus…Puffy soul sucks the life from folks and then offers a bargain to suck the rest of the life from them…

    See Total, Danity Kane and 112.

    • There should be an additional Puffy Robbed My A$$ tour headlined by those artists. LOL

      • Kas

        And made me go to jail on his behalf.

        • Val

          What was his name? Had that one hit. After he got out of jail he was deported. He can’t even get back in the country. Smh. Bad Boy should be Bad Luck.

          • Kas

            Shyne, he’s mentioned in the article.

            • Niecy

              *Shyne

              • Val

                That’s him. Thanks.

              • Kas

                Autocorrect.

            • Val

              Lol @ article.

          • That was Shyne

          • Nik White

            Yeah – he’s performing from Belize!

            • Sweet Ga Brown

              You have got to be sh!ttin me.
              I thought he was in Israel.

              • Nik White

                I saw it on YouTube but didn’t get a chance to look at the performance.

        • Val

          JLo saw the writing on the wall and got the heck away from Puff. Lol If she was still with him she’d be Cassie.

          • miss t-lee

            This is accurate…lol

          • Janelle Doe

            She left with ideas for clothing line and fragrance and more though…

      • With a liner note of “And still robbing my A$$”

      • Blueberry01

        So, who do you think is worse: Puffy or Pebbles?

        • Puffy has the most consistent track record, but Pebbles put her foot in TLC’s a$$ for that Crazy$exyCool album. If I had to choose, I’d say Puffy. At least some artists figured out a way to survive Pebbles.

    • Kas

      Always amazed at entertainers who get so string out on the life that their only alternative is so replace any and all social activities with religion (not to be confused with embracing a higher power).

      • Think about the ish entertainers get exposed to though. That fast life might get you got to the point where you’re like F this. Imagine having ALL the drugs and ALL the nani ALL the time. Not necessarily saying you’ll become religious, but it will change you permanently.

        • Kas

          People with a predilection to over indulge, just replace partying with religion. Not sure they actually ever address the root cause.

          • Asiyah

            I agree with this.

          • Mortal Man

            Recovering addicts never fully recover, but often find a new outlet for their lack of impulse control.

        • Artists tend to suffer from the same problems that major athletes have: poor business acumen and instincts. Artists, especially musicians have it even worse because so much of their career is based on lifestyle. It also doesn’t help that the industry encourages them to waste and spend money, many times it being money they’ve never had.

        • Blueberry01

          So, have you been changed by any of these very things, Todd?

          • Yes. I definitely appreciate the little things much more as well. I’ve also seen how ain’t ish people can truly be, and it’s scary.

            • Blueberry01

              I was actually referring to the fast life, drugs, and nani that you mentioned. Word on the e-street is that you are an avid participant in such things.

        • Nik White

          Lionel Ritchie did an interview and said something to the effect that young entertainers need to study the ones that made it through the alcohol and drugs to see how to have longevity.

      • Buster Cannon

        It’s the Ecclesiastes effect; you’ve experienced all that the “high life” has to offer and you realize that it truly doesn’t satisfy.

        • Explain.

          • Buster Cannon

            Solomon was the wisest man who ever lived, he had 700 wives and 300 concubines, was extremely rich, and had an extremely high amount of status as the king of Israel. In spite of all this, he later writes the book of Ecclesiastes where he concludes that all of it was meaningless, “chasing after the wind”. In spite of all that he was able to do, he realizes that the most important thing a man can do is enjoy the simple pleasures of life.

            I imagine that it’s the same for high-level folks like entertainers/athletes that have the opportunity to do all sorts of things. It’s fun for a season, but if they don’t have a true purpose to chase after it leaves them unfulfilled.

            • CrankUpThe_AC

              That’s deep.

            • LMNOP

              I think Ecclesiastes makes a good case for the existence of clinical depression in Biblical times.

              • miss t-lee

                I can dig that.

              • Mortal Man

                Actually, Ecclesiastes is a summon to spiritual life. The most common refrain in it is “there’s nothing new under the sun.” Everything old is new; everything new is old.

                So focus beyond the sun, to the throne of God, and know enlightenment.

                • LMNOP

                  Honestly, it is one of my favorite books in the Bible, I actually really like the whole idea that the world is constantly changing and still always stays the same. I know he says over and over that this is all meaningless, but to me it’s a pretty deeply meaningful meditation on earthly life.

                  The earth endures forever, people all suffer and are much more similar than we often realize, the things you think will make you happy won’t, but still, the sun will come up again, and the world will still be the same. It makes me think of God not as some far off presence, but as constantly around us, in the seasons and stability of the earth, the rising and the setting of the sun, the fact that our physical bodies will all turn to dust and from dust, new life will grow.

                  BUT, I maintain that someone talking like that in 21st century America, going on and on about the meaningless of everything and how people are better off dead would end up with a diagnosis of clinical depression.

                  • Mortal Man

                    Ecclesiastes, funny enough, is often cited as atheists as their favorite book in the Bible. When I teach world religions, it’s the single text that I choose for my students to read.

                    And optimism is the thin line that separates depression from wisdom.

                    • LMNOP

                      I don’t even know that there’s always a separation. We look at things like depression and other mental illnesses as being entirely negative biological issues, but I think they pretty commonly have a spiritual component and have positive aspects that exist alongside the negative ones.

                      Like the guy who wrote Ecclesiastes might have been profoundly depressed, but he also quite literally had the wisdom of Solomon, and I think the wisdom and depression probably built on each other.

            • You know in retrospect, it’s no wonder the Kingdom of Israel suffers war upon war and ultimately the tribes break up into two major groups after Solomon’s death: How you gonna have 1000 women, who probably have kids and think after you gone problems ain’t gonna ensue. Shid, ain’t no wisdom in the universe that could manage that.

              • Akhibrass

                Not to mention, there would be a lot of single men, yanking the staff because their is a scarcity of available women.

            • IwanttobeaRizpah

              I love a man that knows his Bible. Good on you.

            • Mary Burrell

              Vanity and vexation and chasing the wind.

        • Deeds

          I understand this, but why does it seem like it is more prevalent for Bad Boy artists, than other record labels. It must be something specific about Diddy.

          • Cleojonz

            Because there are bodies man. Those bad boy artists done seen some thangs.

          • Nik White

            Look at Joedeci! Them boys could sang! Well KC and Jojo tried to do their thing but never hit like they could have.

        • Mortal Man

          “All is vanity.”

        • Blueberry01

          Preach, Buster..

        • Nik White

          Well I think it depends on how you get to/through the “high life”.

      • Akhibrass

        I figure if you’re going to God might as well go all the way. Half-steppin is for the lame. I respect people who go full ascetic.

    • HouseOfBonnets

      Casting vocals aside 112 has had a moderate recovery, they were on tour right before the BET performance.

    • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      There is the pattern of economic exploitation of artists indeed.

  • Danny!!!!!!

  • miss t-lee

    After dealing with Puffy’s crazy azz on a daily basis, I’d probably be knocking down the doors of the nearest church, ASAP

    • What’s the word for the day? Ezekiel 23:20? Proverbs 30:20? John 8:44?

      • miss t-lee

        Psalms 38:10

        • LOL

        • Val

          Check y’all out dropping Bible verses and confusing a religious illiterate like me, Lol

          • miss t-lee

            I’m only a part time heathen, Val. :)

          • Google all of them. Though I found the first one through a more heathen oriented source. LOL All those years of church school weren’t in vain.

            • Tambra

              SDA?

          • Nik White

            I know a couple of triptures but I still had to look up those- Todd ain’t playin wit ya!

      • Buster Cannon

        Lol that first one, not exactly what you’d hear read aloud on a Sunday morning

        • Bible study uncut? LOL

        • Now that I have a few spare moments, the uncut-ness of that first verse explains a decent chunk of the Old Testament, and why the Israelites kept rolling away from God even after he kept saving their booties from the fire…occasionally literally.

          The neighbors of the Israelites (all those various Ites in the Bible) practiced various faiths based on fertility. The idea was that by plowing some tail and sowing your seed, the gods would do likewise to their fields. (Giggity.) As a result, there was a huge focus on members and the fluids they produce. Of course, getting some from the various female and what were at least genderqueer (to the use the modern parlance) priests was a nice li’l bonus. Gee, let’s say you’re an Israelite, things are Gucci on the farm, you notice your priests asking for a cut of the action, while down the road your neighbors are getting that WORK. What would you do?

          And now I’ve explained 60% of the Old Testament.

          • LMNOP

            Explains all the begetting

          • Sweet Ga Brown

            You should so be a sunday school teacher. Lol To an young adult class of course. I think a mix of Future/Yung Thug/Drake Hymns should play as relatable references if needed.

    • Dee

      Funny you said that, have you read the book Dancing with the Devil by Mark Curry? It is a very interesting read regarding Diddy and how he handles artists and how Mark was handled by him.

      • miss t-lee

        No. I remember when it came out, but didn’t read it.
        I just remember his attitude and dealings from his various reality shows. Not sure if it was a put on for the cameras or not, but I’m willing to bet at least 40% was his real personality…lol

    • Mary Burrell

      That reality show made me give Ditty the side eye he just seemed like a jerk to me.

      • Nik White

        I had just moved back to Detroit from living out east when dude had those kids walking to Juniors and that was probably the first and last time I watched the show (still shaking my head at that foolishness)!

        • Neka W.

          Dave Chappelles rendition of that show was on point.

  • Brass Tacks

    F*ck Bad Boy as a Staff, Record Label, and a muthafuggin Crew.

    -2Pac

    • Asiyah

      Seriously. Biggie was too good for that label.

      • KB

        Had Biggie not been killed I fully believe he would have left Bad Boy by 99/2000-ish and would have had nothing to do with Puff. He’s a career killer.

        • Disagree, I don’t think more than a two or three of those artists would of been notable without Puff

          • KB

            B.I.G would have attained stardom eventually without Puff. Talent like his always seem to find its way to the top.

            • Okay so that’s 1.

              • KB

                The rest I tend to agree with you, but that is the case for a lot of artists on independent record labels. Wayne wouldn’t be Wayne with Cash Money, Snoop probably wouldn’t have been who he was without Death Row, same for Dre though he was known from his NWA days, he became a megastar via Suge Knight.

            • BlueWave1

              Puff’s a career killer for sure. But to his credit he did make BIG more palatable to audiences outside of the Tri-State area. BIG was Brooklyn raw (well, Brooklyn before the Hipsters overran it). Puff promoted him very well. He brought the smooth remixes that gave BIG cross over appeal. I think’s Puff’s marketing prowess really pushed BIG from the underground to the mainstream. Without Puff, BIG would have been Big L. One heck of an MC but an underground sensation.

              • Excellent point and I fully agree.

              • Hugh Akston

                SN: was in Brooklyn over the weekend. Gentrification complete is all I can say.

                • Dougie

                  Oh it’s definitely not complete. They’re still moving strong through the borough.

                • Nope. They’re trying hard, but Brownsville is still Brownsville, East New York and Canarsie are still running wild, and they haven’t gone hardbody on the Midwoods and Marine Parks yet.

                  • I can attest for the East….

                  • Mortal Man

                    What about Flatbush? I’m in NYC for business and need some good jerk chicken.

                    • It’s slowly starting. They’re still there but those first outposts are cropping up.

                  • Big Pete Bondurant

                    Midwood resident here; agreed. And I don’t think it’ll ever happen, either. South BK will remain as is.

                    • Neka W.

                      Just come to the BX. All the West Indian eats sans the overrun of hipsters lining up for a “cultural” experience.

                  • Hugh Akston

                    you may be right…but to me it seems those are battles ready to be fought for a war that has already been lost…(sounds depressing…but not trying to)

            • disqus_vo9S9adtzT

              Arguably, we wouldn’t know if that’s true or not bc similar talents could still be meddling w the mess, but Big L was a good example.

              Puff is also responsible for Mary J to an extent, but she got out in time.

              But Total, 112, and all the others he produced…
              He’s a career killer but he’s also a maker, no doubt.

          • Mortal Man

            Puff can promote. It’s his ego that’s always his downfall. He always has to been seen as the most talented in the room and values his self preservation over the careers of his charges.

            I heard a rumor a while back that when Nas dropped “the Lost Tapes,” Puff had him pull over on the street over the intro to “Purple.” Puff drove out there himself and had Nas explain why he was dropping his name.

        • Asiyah

          Agreed!

      • Val

        Everybody on the label back then was too big for the label.

  • Ironically, he is jumping like a monkey for an old white man. I guess Diddy ain’t the Devil.

    • miss t-lee

      Goodness gracious.

  • Julian Green

    I think it’s a good a time as any to dust off this old gem: http://youtu.be/2Z3bLRPOlrw

    • kid video

      Funny dude…glad he’s getting some shine on Lopez.

    • Lol no offense, but anytime a brotha begins a point with:

      “I’m about to…” In my mind, I’m like this brotha is confessing: “I’m about to show you the reason why I never made it.” lol

      Brothas with big mouths should always have a Plan B.

    • Ari

      This was the first vid that came to mind when I read the title.

  • Ille Jay

    I hadn’t followed what happened to Loon, but some of his work remains in rotation on my phone and laptop, WM playlist. And yeah, the second concert I ever went to…

    Craig Makk, B.I.G, Total, Naughty by Nature, Bone Thugs, Jodeci wrapping it up…all on HALLOWEEN Night ’96!!…with my very first hoodrat HS GF in tow..left no doubt in my mind Craig was headed for stardom, I never liked “Flava in Ya Ear”…but “Get Down”, had the Maxi-Single! ?

    • Cleojonz

      “Get Down” is my ish, I always like that better. I still listen to it. Flava in your Ear – only the remix version.

  • Julian Green

    If you don’t own an indigo plantation, have nothing in your closet but white linen suits, or subsist on a strict diet of watermelon, rice and mint juleps, there’s really no reason for you to be living in Walterboro, SC.

    • Watermelon, rice and mint juleps sounds like a vegan diet. A lot of White people could roll with that. LOL

    • Ille Jay

      This is ALL I See…haha

      • Julian Green

        Yup.

    • Walterboro has a really bad crime problem too.

      • KB

        It smells bad too because of the marshlands. I used to kick it with a chick from there.

        • Kas

          There’s a joke there, but I just got saved yesterday.

          • Tambra

            You did? With what church? The one you started an hr ago?

            • Kas

              Whatever Beelzebub. ;)

              • Tambra

                Lol, still ain’t change the fact that you are the devil.

                • Kas

                  Love this by the way.

                  • Tambra

                    You saying you inept?

                    • Kas

                      The gif. I don’t know what inept means, but knowing you, it’s mean, so no.

                    • Tambra

                      I am not mean hunny. I am a loverrrr..

                    • Kas

                      I can always tell when your dissertation is handing you your @ss.

                    • Tambra

                      Nah just tired today. Fatigued and I tried sleeping but it didn’t come, so I am fighting the good fight I hope.

                    • Kas

                      Go for a leisurely run. It will clear your head.

                    • Tambra

                      What I need is sleep, and that I am not doing well. Maybe running will do the trick.

                    • Kas

                      My point exactly.

                    • Kas
                    • Tambra

                      Why you want me to go that route? I prefer to fail.

                    • Kas

                      I was trying to give you a chuckle. I know a person of your high moral fiber and intestinal fortitude would never sink to cheating.

                    • Tambra

                      I know, but humour me today. Lack of sleep is killing me. I am so looking forward to being finished, so I can take a vacation and getting that sleep. Thank you friend…

                    • LMNOP

                      Have you tried melatonin?

                    • Tambra

                      Is it a drug? I do not want to take any form of sleep medication. So for now I take it where I can get it even if it means putting my head down for a couple of minutes on a desk.

                    • LMNOP

                      You can get it in pills, but it’s something your body produces naturally to make you sleepy and regulate your circadian rhythms. If you want to go pill free, I would recommend cutting out caffeine after 10 am and getting in a decent amount of physical activity, you could try mentally drafting what your writing while your walking or something. Getting a solid night’s sleep I’m sure will make a huge difference in how productive you are.

                      Also, there’s the tried and true get off the internet and lay down lol, which I’m about to take my own advice and do.

                    • Tambra

                      I drink coffee on mornings but at nights I try to drink tea, green tea. The exercise and me have been enemies for a while, I need to get back to that . Even if I am not on the net I just toss about. I am not good at setting the work aside, especially if I give myself a task to complete.

                    • Kas

                      Did you end up going for a run?

                    • Tambra

                      No.*hides face*

                    • Kas

                      No need to hide. I just thought it might help you clear your head so the blessed sleep could come. Good luck.

                    • Tambra

                      I know, but it just reminded me I need to exercise.

                • Mary Burrell

                  Scream Queens love this show

                • Other_guy13

                  Thought I was????

                  • Tambra

                    You still the reigning devil but Kas is trying hard to take your title.

          • Other_guy13

            lies

            • Kas

              I prefer to call them statistics.

          • Blueberry01

            Did you really, Kas? Congratulations!

            • Kas

              Now I feel bad. No my sinning @ss wasn’t even near church on Sunday.

              • Blueberry01

                Lol! It’s okay, Kas. The Lord will wait until you accept Him in your heart…and it may not even be at a physical church.

                • Kas

                  It definitely won’t be at a physical church. I have issues with organized religion.

        • I grew up swamp adjacent so I never noticed the smell.

          • KB

            Most cities in the coastal empire region of GA/SC have that smell. Between that and the sulfur mill, Savannah had that smell.

            • Julian Green

              I wouldn’t call that smell “bad”. Just…distinctive.

            • QueenRaven23

              I still remember that smell. Good ol’ Savannah, Beaufort, and everything else in that area.

            • Other_guy13

              Paper mill for Sav…the water is different too

        • Other_guy13

          This convo brings me back…

      • Julian Green

        I don’t doubt it. A lot of those towns out in the sticks are the same way. Poverty + Isolation + Having nothing to do.

    • brothaskeeper

      You are nowhere close to wrong.

      • There’s still an active branch of the John Birch Society in Walterboro too. Their presence combined with the gang problem there makes my trips through there on the way to Allendale County as quick as possible.

        • brothaskeeper

          Be careful out there, sir. That’s a lonely stretch. And I’m pretty sure some SCHP are card-carrying members.

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