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What Damn Color Is This Clearly (Clearly!) Black And Blue Dress?

There are two types of people in the world.

1. People who see a black and blue dress.

2. People who see a white and gold dress. And by “people who see a white and gold dress” I mean “people who willingly download Big Sean mixtapes.” And by “people who willingly download Big Sean mixtapes” I mean “people who go to the gym, come home, and get in bed without showering because they believe their sweat already washed off the dirt.

Which person are you?

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for GQ.com And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at damon@verysmartbrothas.com. Or don't. Whatever.

  • Miss Raine

    Um…I saw a picture of a similar dress posted on buzzfeed yesterday but it was in fact white and gold. What is going on here? And why is this a thing?

    I just don’t get the internet, or the obsession with bobby shmurder(sp?) sometimes. :-/

    • h.h.h.

      I just don’t get the internet, or the obsession with bobby shmurder(sp?) sometimes

      on behalf of the internet, i apologize. we heard many complaints about our favorite topic ($200 dates) so we had decided to switch it up. Our bad. Today we’ll discuss how DC men spend $177 on the first date (average), tops in the nation.

      We, the internet, salute you, men of DC.

      • So that’s where they do $200 first dates, huh? LOL That’s insane, though it explains the emergence of all sorts of phenomena from Twitter balling to the rise of RooshV the PUA (who is originally from DC). Thank you DC men! *smh* LOL

      • HeyBooHey

        I wanna know what dates these people are going on for $177 though. Cuz we can ride out to one of these free museums so I can see if I like you first. You dropping big money on me makes me feel like I gotta bust somethin open smh

        • Personally, I think that’s the point. That wallet game is for REAL, and the goal is to hide their dry personality behind a wall of dead presidents. Then again, there are a lot of dry personalities on OKCupid among the women. I call it a win-win.

          • HeyBooHey

            Nah, a dry personality shows itself way before the prezys drop. Give me a picnic or a walk around the park before you throw money on some pricey excursion.

            • Or even some sort of destination for something that you, as a man, are checking for. Playing it too safe in an effort to get the drawers will get you in trouble. Heck, you can flip Dungeons and Dragons into some date ish if you work hard enough at it.

              • HeyBooHey

                For a first date, I just expect to get to know you. That’s the gateway to seeing if a guy can even get the draws in the future. How he plays it is everything. I don’t know a damn about Dungeons and Dragons but make that ish sexy enough to me and he can have it all lol. If he thinks JUST dropping major coin is enough, it ain’t

            • Mika

              hell, set me free of boredom before you even spend money. I just can’t deal with a boring man with prezys.

        • God Shammgod

          I’m tired of hearing men whine about $200 dates when all they’re doing is paying for a lack of originality. No one told you to do dinner and a movie. *shrugs*

          • HeyBooHey

            EXACTLY! A dude gets points off the top for something other than a dinner or movie date.

            • God Shammgod

              Conversely, menfolk shouldnt act like its outlandish for a date to get to that price. One app + one entree + one dessert with 2 drinks after can easily hit the 200 mark at a decent restaurant, it doesnt have to be Per Se or anything.

              But see what they won’t say is that they’re just salty that the women they want expect that treatment…because everytime you point out the women that don’t they act like they’re magical unicorns instead of just “women I’m not interested therefore their experience is invalid.”

              This goes for both genders, by the way. A lot of gender wars would easily be resolved if folks would just admit to it boiling down to being annoyed that they type of person you’re interested in requires XYZ that you don’t have.

              • HeyBooHey

                All of this. Manage your expectations basically. Guys who are used to only going to Applebee’s don’t get that concept of a pricey meal or showing a woman a good time. Now the first date, I personally don’t wanna go to a pricey place unless we have a rapport established. It don’t make me a unicorn cuz I’d rather be in more intimate setting to get to know a guy, it makes it my preference.

                You’re right, the gender wars I see sometimes are a matter of what you do or don’t like. Rock with what works and leave it alone if it don’t, it’s not that hard smh

              • I definitely agree on the women expecting that. I’ve learned to filter out that chick from jump. It’s not that I was in that lane heavy pre-marriage, but now GTFOHWTBS. If I’m investing that much money in something, I’d better have some sort of clue that you’re worth it *as a human*. I don’t care how nice your a$$ is or how good the head is. I can take that same money and spend it going to places where I can meet women who won’t require that much pampering, and roll the savings into paying the bills.

                Even then, I’d spend $200 on something I’d actually LIKE to do. Too many dudes think that throwing enough money up somehow obliterates the need to develop a fully fledged personality. Nope. Actually figure out a $200 restaurant that you’d actually like, not because it got hot reviews. If not, you’re better off spending that bread at, say, a comic convention or a sports game. At least you’d have fun, and you’d have a day sharing a part of yourself to someone you actually like as a person.

                • God Shammgod

                  I’m with you. All I’m saying is, while you’re paying for lack of originality, the chicks who expect $200 dates are also the ones who spend twice as much money to get ready for that first date.

                  • Heck, those chicks who do all that are operating on the same wavelength as the dudes throwing about $200 on a first date. I know there are women that just stay fresh to death 24/7, but if that’s really your life, the money you’re spending to get ready is just a part of your budget (or should be). The thirst is apparently real in these streets.

                  • Drake Mallard

                    I don’t think it’s about originality as much as it is about money being a proxy for how much effort or caring. Remember the groupon discussion?

                    • God Shammgod

                      Originality and effort can be used interchangeably here – when I say originality I mean “thinking through a unique first date that would be more tailored to the girl you’re pursuing” instead of just throwing cash at the situation and calling it a day.

                      ultimately it boils down to what i said downthread – which is the real problem that lies with dating for each gender, the nuccas you want not being down for whatever you want to serve…which means you either have to either expand your dating pool or figure out how to adjust your circumstances.

                    • Drake Mallard

                      When I think of dating I think of the two people not knowing each other well and trying make first impressions. Social norms and expectations being the driving factor more than dating pool. Whatever, first world problems. The way the game is set up, dating is really for suckers anyway.

          • This is why I take people to bookstores and museums.

            • LadyIbaka

              So we gon conversate over empty stomachs? Nah son.

              • Picnic basket

              • Nicholas Peters

                Most museums have a cafeteria

            • God Shammgod

              First Saturdays at BK Museum Next weekend. The Kehinde Wiley exhibit will excite many a BBP.

          • Nicholas Peters

            They are paying for HOV lane to your cookie

            • God Shammgod

              Then they get salty that they didnt get the drawers flung at em. A good steak won’t override dry conversation (speaking for myself here).

              Then again, I don’t really date, so I shouldn’t really be speaking here.

              • Nicholas Peters

                But that is the point…

              • How do you like your steak?

                • HeyBooHey

                  #shootyourshot for the 99 and 2015

                  • I’m not shooting. I’m just curious because I like talking about food and cooking.

                    • IcePrincess

                      Medium for filet, med-rare for any other cut. And I like A-1, even though it is frowned upon in upscale restaurants. Fuck yo couch, bring me my A-1, thankyouverymuch

                  • h.h.h.
                • God Shammgod

                  lol at the responses.i like all my meat medium rare to medium (i dont eat pork and obviously this doesnt apply to poultry).

        • PunchDrunkLove

          Sooo true…folks and their expectations. By the same token we do NOT wanna encourage cheap ninjas that only want fund free outings (i.e. walks in the park, walks, holding hands walking, window shopping, arts and crafts, free museums, etc). Next thing you know it’s home dates only.

          • HeyBooHey

            Just saw something about what you’re saying. I definitely don’t only encourage cheap or free dates sitting on the couch. Sometimes those freebies are the best and let you see someone’s creative side so I don’t mind them while getting to know someone. The money dropping can come after we’re established so it doesn’t seem like just a free meal

            • PunchDrunkLove

              Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for creativity, I need to know we can switch it up and not hang from any end of the spectrum. But, I just know there are those dudes that want to smash and free events. I gotcha.

              • HeyBooHey

                Listen, there are dudes who think they’ll take you for a walk and assume they’ll get you up against a tree just cuz they spit a poem about a falling leaf. It goes all kinda ways. But basically yes, knowing when to be lowkey and when to stunt for a lady is the key. Finding that person who gets that concept is another story smh

                • Mika

                  Chile……….

          • LadyIbaka

            You ain’t never lied!

          • Better enjoy these cheap quality dates.

            • PunchDrunkLove

              I won’t take anything less….but that’s just me and how I do it. Keep things in perspective :) You start off on the couch, that’s where you’ll always be. Set the tone and the bar high. It ain’t too much for a good dude. And no, I’m not talking leading with his wallet. I’m simply talking about how a woman SHOULD be treated. But again, everyone has to go with what works for them.

              • No couch dates. I’m talking about going out and conversing investing time and creating experiences with one another. A Netflix date is like I’ve already known you for like 6 months.

                • PunchDrunkLove

                  I’m all for that….

                  Edit: I just know women….or me (can only speak for self), should start off on the good fooot. Things don’t start off wrong and get right. But, I’m not out there like that….I’m safely booed. Letting a brother know you’re open and versatile. You cannot date though without spending…sometimes yeah, but for the most part, money makes the world go ’round

                  • Nothing I like is really expensive unless it’s a thing I’ll be using over and over for years to come. I’m completely comfortable paying several hundred for like a record player, headphones, a video game console or whatever because I know I’m going to invest hundreds of hours into them. Only expensive dates I would go on would be to like a play, music festival, or something in that vein. I have inexpensive tastes. I know that turns off a lot of women. I’m upfront and cool with that.

                    • PunchDrunkLove

                      Not spending a grip is not a problem. I just take issues with cheap dudes. There’s a difference in being creative and finding great ways to interact for the sake of versatility. versus raggedy dudes tryna get it in and all for nothing. I hate a cheap, lazy dude…I do. Just uuugh…I itch at the sight of.
                      It’s cool spending money on something favorite, a hobby or something for yourself. I do that too…on a couple of things. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with showing your girl a high time every now and then…i.e. music festival, play, etc….and playing it down at other times. That’s cool. Plus, you’re young you got time to ramp things up. :)
                      I think you’re moving in the right direction. I’m just gon tell you, I have expensive taste…lol But again, I know how to appreciate a lil bit of everything.

                    • Well you can be my suga mama

                    • PunchDrunkLove

                      Naaaah, I’on even know how.

                • PunchDrunkLove

                  I’ll share this one tidbit for free. Two things a woman can ALWAYS get from a man that’s digging her….not demand, but can get it…free will. And nope, not paying her bills or some shady crap…pay your own dang bills. Time and money. You can’t get either, you ain’t got him.

        • h.h.h.

          dinner (drinks, appetizers, main course) for 2 at a spot with a nice ambience, with tip, can run between $130-$160…

          i know that the Goddesses of Dating can state you can date for free/cheap in the big city…but as i look outside my window, it seems that going for ice cream and a walk in the park might not be the most logical idea when it’s 19 degrees outside.

          i could be speaking German tho. Ya?

          • HeyBooHey

            Nein. Lol “the Goddesses of Dating” are right though, especially in a big city. Alot of museums are free and got heat in the winter. There’s free/cheap live music to catch. You can finesse a cheap/free first date with some effort

            • h.h.h.

              it really doesn’t go down like that from my perspective.

              but if that is what you wish to believe, i’m not gonna fight you on it.

              *shrug*

              • Aly

                What exactly are you disagreeing with? Her ideas are reasonable/doable.

                • h.h.h.

                  they’re reasonable in the world of VSB.

                  in the real world, especially in the northeast, #notsomuch.

                  but its cool. i don’t have the answers, i go back to being the sushi king.

                  Big Game in the SEC tomorrow, Arkansas vs. Kentucky. anything you looking forward to?

                  • Aly

                    Ok hon :) No, don’t watch football. Looking forward to a nice dinner with friends tomorrow though.

              • HeyBooHey

                Nothing to fight about, opinions are free too. Guess it depends on who you are and who you deal with in that situation. I don’t know your perspective but whatever works for you, works for you

          • Agatha Guilluame

            [redacted for saying chex]

          • Agatha Guilluame

            Jawohl.

            You could go bowling. Go on a weeknight. Most places usually have unlimited games.

            Take her to happy hour, order a couple of appetizers. Dance, drink, talk.

            Get a second job.

            Go to an art gallery opening, they usually have free wine and hors d’Oeuvres

            Go to a comedy club, at most you’re looking at a 2 drink minimum.

            Go to the museum, the Guggenheim, the Met, MoMA, The Museum of Chex, etc.

            Make better investments.

            Is it the 4th or 5th date? Take a day trip. Go upstate. Pick a quaint small town with a tourist attraction of some sort. Bring snacks. So you’re only looking at gas and tolls.

            Sit her down and tell her you’re poor. That way you lower her expectations.

            Go to a pottery making class. Or a painting class. Or a cooking class. Say goodbye after you’ve fired the kiln on your clay pot so you don’t have to buy her food. Buy yourself food.

            Take her on a tour of your childhood. Buy water and snacks. Show her your neighborhood. Don’t leave the car.

            Maybe you should focus on monetizing your hobby.

            Go to Dave and Busters. Give her a cup of coins, tell her, when it’s done, it’s done.

            Go to the movies. A matinee. Share the popcorn.

            Go to Spin. Play a game of ping pong.

            Take her to the library. Tell her she can take out any book she wants.

            Stop dating.

            • h.h.h.

              danke Ihnen, dass alle Antworten. #BlackGirlsAreMagic

              • Agatha Guilluame

                Stille.

                • h.h.h.

                  i guess i better quit my whining, eh comrade?

            • NY women love bowling alleys.

              • HeyBooHey

                We do go up for bowling alleys, especially if there’s a bar in that bish

                • You’re a nyer?

                  • HeyBooHey

                    Born & raised. Moved to VA a few years ago

      • CrayolaGirl

        If these men spent $177, it’s because they wanted to. I refuse to believe they could find anything to do under $100.

      • Mika

        WAYMENT. I do not understand. Do you know what $177 can do? That can pay a light bill, car insurance, a bundled plan of cable, phone, and internet service for a home. Maybe I am old fashioned and corny.

        • h.h.h.

          it’s also great for dinner :)

      • MeridianBurst

        I don’t think I’ve ever sipped tea so loudly in my life.

      • Nicholas Peters

        Where do they do this in DC?

  • niksmit

    There are actually three types of people. Sometimes I see one and sometimes I see the other. For instance, I got here via Twitter where it was white. Here it’s blue.

  • Nicholas Peters

    the first and third…If I need to clean my sheets I will wash them….

    • HeyBooHey

      As long as they’re clean

  • Whocares

    I’m confused, because I willingly downloaded Big Sean yesterday, but the dress looks blue to me. But I also went to Zumba and showered afterward, which might have negated my seeing it as white and gold. Quite a conundrum…

  • KB

    This was the most strange viral internet phenomena I have seen in a while, that and whatever the damn story was with the llamas. For the record when I look at the dress from the top I see white n gold, but when I start to scroll down on the pic it changes to blue n black. SORCERY!

    • Tx10inch

      Can I be conspiracy brotha for a sec? Here’s a thought.

      • mikster

        This wouldn’t be a problem if everyone didn’t willingly participate in the foolishness. Imagine if these things didn’t happen on these particular days and it was just a regular day… the fact that THIS has our attention all day is a stand alone issue lol

      • pls

        mmhmmm

      • #staywokedog LOL People need help.

      • Lea Thrace

        illuminati man….

      • KB

        These fake deep types kill me with this foolishness. For one, most people (on my timeline at least) acknowledged that yesterday was the 3rd anniversary of Trayvon Martin’s death and spoke about what has happened since (especially in regards to Zimmerman). Also, people act as if we are only allowed to have single track minds, focusing on one thing at a time. Yesterday my conversation topics consisted of the following (in no particular order): Trayvon Martin, The new season of HOC, the Keystone pipeline veto, Wednesday’s episode of Empire, trying to get to the bottom of the Llama story, a song I heard last weekend titled ‘Drop Dat D**K off in dat Hoe’, and my next job/career move. Everytime there is a big news story, someone has to come and claim it is intended to distract from something else. Hey, sometimes weird s**t happens (the debate over the dress), and becomes a popular talked about topic, everything isn’t a damn conspiracy.

        • HeyBooHey

          Meanwhile, not to discount ANY of what you stated, I’m utterly baffled that you heard a song titled “Drop dat D*#ck off in dat hoe”. You for serious!?!?

          • KB

            I was at Cloud 9 lounge in Atlanta last weekend with some friends and the dj dropped it. Apparently it’s an old song from around 05/06 featuring Future back when he referred to himself as ‘Scorpio” and before he did the Auto-tune thing. Should I feel ashamed that I was jamming out to that song

            • HeyBooHey

              If you do, then I should feel ashamed for wanting to hear what that mess sounds like smh

              • KB

                It’s actually pretty damn catchy

        • Tx10inch

          Your conversations should’ve also included smoking a joint at some point today.

          Chill.

          • KB

            I’m good homey.

  • She Who Reads

    The dress changed colors in front of my eyes, so I suppose I shower after downloading a Big Sean mixtape.

  • I just had a debate with my co-workers over this exact picture. It’s too early for this sh*t. Black and Blue.

    • Mika

      LMAO. Can’t believe this ish made the news

      • PunchDrunkLove

        Right…GMA had a segment

      • h.h.h.

        i couldn’t understand what in tarnations my facebook friend was whining about then i saw it on the news last night…i saw white and gold, but if the original dress is black and blue, so be it

        i guess it’s a 2015 version of this

        http://www.teachnet.com/graphics/powertools/puzzles/illusion1.gif

        • CrayolaGirl

          the old woman jumped out briefly and scared me.

  • mikster

    Im sorry the dress is the same color with and without the filter…. it was blue black before…. its blue black now…. yall stop these shananagins!!

  • Where are the llamas

  • Tx10inch

    I need answers.

    • PunchDrunkLove

      Selfie?

      • camilleblu

        #sodead

      • Tx10inch

        Nope. But good idea.

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