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VSB in Atlanta Recap: Meetups, Panels, #ObamaDay, and Thangs

Panama Jackson

 

What started out as a trip to Morehouse College (and a chance to actually speak at my alma mater) to speak to a journalism class about finding their voice turned into a whirlwind busy as the dickens Sunday and Monday in the A. Lots of stuff happened. Let’s talk about it.

Let’s start with the VSB ATL meetup. First and foremost, thanks to everybody who came out. I met a ton of new and cool folks, even those folks who had allllll the hateration to share. I can’t remember everybody’s name, but like Tupac said to his mother, you are appreciated. Hopefully those who did come out made some new friends. I think I managed to speak to almost everybody (except that super shy person who dipped clean out without speaking to anybody but who showed up at the talk the next day), or my family did since I brought all of my sisters and even a long lost cousin to the fracas. Shouts to Hostile Negress (writing here as Dhiraj Naseen) who also came through to represent, represent. I enjoyed myself and I hope y’all did too.

Like I said, this trip started out as an opportunity for me to go speak to a class at Morehouse College and eventually morphed into a full day’s worth of speaking engagements.

Monday morning, and through the homie and Morehouse College professor and journalist, David Dennis, Jr., I had the opportunity to speak to his Advanced News Writing class about finding their voice and branding. Because Monday morning quarterbacking is a thing, I can think of how much better I could have done in that class room though I do think (and hope that) I at least gave them some things to think about. Oprah came up in the midst of the discussion and one of the students asked if I could play them the voicemail, so I did. I haven’t listened to it since November, so it was pretty cool to listen to it anew after several months with folks hearing it for the first time. Shouts to David Dennis (who would also join me for the VSB talk later in the day), for opening his classroom up to me and having the distinction as being the person who allowed me to come back and speak at Morehouse College, something I actually have wanted to do.

Little did I know that God was like…oh, you want this? You gon’ learn today.

The week before last, and after I’d already confirmed I was heading down and put in motion the pieces for the talk later Monday evening, I received a text from the homie Jamilah Lemieux (we all know who she is) asking if I would be interested in speaking at Morehouse for an endeavor she was helming using President’s Day as a means to take a look at the legacy of Barack Obama, basically turning President’s Day into Barack Obama Day with a day full of panels to be held on the 2nd floor of Morehouse’s King Chapel. There were several panels, breakfast, lunch, free books, and a keynote address by Michael Eric Dyson. I was apart of a panel called “For The Culture: Obama and Pop Culture” moderated by Jamilah where we discussed the effect of Obama’s “cool” on accountability and how social media helped bolster him as a candidate for the kids, bro. My panel included awesome writer Rembert Browne and Hot 97’s Deanii Scott, aka Scottiebeam. Shouts to my fellow panelists for an entertaining and engaging discussion. #yalldabess

(There are lots of shouts in this piece recap. Also, clap for ‘em all.)

But, I’m really here to talk about the panel before mine. It was called “Black Men and the ‘Obama Effect’” featuring some fairly prominent individuals in academia Morehouse College’s Dr. David Wall Rice, Howard University’s Dr. Greg Carr, writer and cultural commentator Mychal Denzel Smith, and entrepreneur and former Obama “pastor in chief” Joshua DuBois, who is a friend of mine.

Hear this and hear this good: That was the best panel I’ve ever attended in my entire life. I’ve had the pleasure of being on and attending panels for years now. I’ve seen some terrible ones (mix of speakers and subject) and good ones (again, mix of speakers and subject), but this is the first time I’ve ever attended a panel and didn’t want it to end, never mind that I was on deck or that it was an hour and a half strong.

Between the questions that were asked, and the careful, thoughtful, and sometimes extremely dissenting opinions of the panelists, I can easily say that it was all things informative, insightful, entertaining, and worthwhile. The conversation that they were having – and it was nowhere near a table full of Obama advocates, shoot, it was possibly more “anti” Obama than pro (I say anti, because nobody hates the man but the professors and Mychal were very reasonably critical of Obama’s governance and the myth behind the man) – was useful and for all who attended, I’m sure a delight. Everybody on the panel was in the know and able to articulate well their opinions, which isn’t something you always get with these things.

Point is, it was Facebook Lived (it starts at the 1 hour mark on this video, my panel is also on this video at the end) and I’d highly recommend that you check out the panel because it takes a whole lot for a panel discussion to impress me, but after this one, I made it a point to thank each and every one of them for the talk and even shouted them out during my own panel. Shouts to Jamilah and the entire crew from NewsOne for putting on such an edifying day full of talks. I’m sure it was no easy task, but I think all who had the pleasure of attending, benefited.

Lastly, at 6pm at the Atlanta University Center’s Robert W. Woodruff Library, affectionately referred to as Club Woody to all in the AUC (I’m assuming they still call it that), I had the pleasure of doing a sit-down conversation about Black voices in a new America, alongside David Dennis. We had an engaged crowd who asked a bunch of questions, and we talked a lot, towards the end, about VSB’s direction and goals, which I found interesting to actively talk about out loud. Typically, those are convos only Damon and I have. I heard I was a bit long-winded; that was probably true. But hopefully the discussion was interesting, and I try to throw in as many jokes as possible. Also, David has a great perspective as somebody who has been an active journalist for a long time and who has been recently dragged because of comments he made about Tom Brady, ending up on Breitbart and effectively had to talk about how to survive when this New America learns your name. It wasn’t FB Lived because I’m Black and I forgot a TriPod, but ya know, we’ll get ’em next time tiger.

All in all in it was a great trip, and on the speaking end I’m always learning and thinking of ways I could have improved what I said and how I said it, and I need a timer. Thanks for all who attended, who invited me out, and who came to the meetup.

Panama Jackson

Panama Jackson is pretty fly (and gorgeous) for a light guy. He used to ship his frito to Tito in the District, but shipping prices increased so he moved there to save money. He refuses to eat cocaine chicken. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. Most importantly, he believes the children are our future. You can hit him on his hitter at panamadjackson@gmail.com.

  • I received a text from the homie Jamilah Lemieux (we all know who she is)

    oh i’ve heard of her…she’s the cousin of Mario Lem *has his mic cut off*

  • I’ll definitely have to check out the Facebook Live feed. That discussion about Obama was so clutch. Though I would have missed it live since it was the same time that Dustin Seibert came through and crushed the buildings. And by crushed the buildings, I mean show out in the comments. Still, that panel sounds like it should be fire to look at.

    Also, shouts to you speaking at your alma mater. I hope to make something like that happen for myself one day, so to you, I give much props.

    • panamajackson

      It was a pretty dope feeling to know I’m back where it pretty much all started getting the opportunity to speak. Felt dope.

    • Janelle S

      Codeswitch did a podcast recently with people calling out Obama for problematic parts of his administration. I don’t know if it measures up, but I enjoyed it.

      http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/

  • Honestly, Jamilah is so fine and passionate and brilliant.

    • Other_guy13
    • Passionate I agree with. In terms of her writing though, I’ll just agree to disagree. I know she has a big fan base, but she comes off to me as controversial-for-controversy’s sake, like a bougie female Charlemagne.

      • Negro Libre

        Hehe, that’s a mouthful.

      • miss t-lee

        “I know she has a big fan base, but she comes off to me as controversial-for-controversy’s sake, like a bougie female Charlemagne.”

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/351d2a796180bddf27c7852b3c78f0d5c5750371ad5651ac51b6deba37ff5471.gif

        • I’m not a fan of her writing. Is that a crime somehow? Will i have to give up bottomless mimosas and stick to dating women with processed hair? :)

          • Negro Libre

            You got any samples to prove your point though?

            I want to see this Bougie-Charlemagne-Rhetoric for myself.

            • Here’s a recent example: http://www.colorlines.com/articles/why-im-skipping-womens-march-washington-opinion

              I’m not saying she’s wrong, but there’s an example in her writing to play way too much to the crowd. It’s click bait for people too enlightened for WorldStar.

              • Negro Libre

                I’d say she’s more of the intersectionality answer to David Brook based off what I’m reading.

                • Like the world needs more of that writing in the world. That’s a genre that I wouldn’t mind remaining lily White.

                  • Negro Libre

                    Unfortunately bad ideas get copied more than good ideas.

              • I’m confused. White women really are terrible for how they voted this past election. How is that click bait?

                • For one, I didn’t say she wasn’t wrong. What I had an issue is that it’s buzzword heavy to a fault. It’s like reading bougie Mad Libs.

                  • Could you expound on which buzzwords you mean? All I kept seeing her reference was the faux sisterhood white women talk about all the time.

                    Speaking of which, feminism is such a joke because it truly and honestly is for the sole benefit of middle/upper class white women.

                    • “Speaking of which, feminism is such a joke because it truly and honestly is for the sole benefit of middle/upper class white women.”

                      I told a few of the white women in my office this the day after the election and they couldn’t help but to agree for once. No push back just solemn head-nodding.

                    • I hope this election has shown these so called “good white folk” that they’re actually worse than trash for allowing their friends and family continue to hold unfounded racial biases without getting checked for it.

                      They want POC to clean up all the messes they’ve made and save them from themselves. Nawl. Y’all have been watching the world burn for centuries.

                      Maybe instead of killin off entire generations of black and brown bodies y’all pale colonizers could be helpful for a change.

                    • Annalise Keating

                      “Speaking of which, feminism is such a joke because it truly and honestly is for the sole benefit of middle/upper class white women.”

                      Feminism attracts a very diverse group of women who have very different ideas of what feminism is.
                      If we are looking at feminism as women having equal and fair opportunity as men, this ideology has been practiced by women of color all over the world before white folks got out of the dark ages and could even pronounce feminism. They just didn’t speak about it constantly and write essays non stop and wax poetically about it daily. They just practiced (and still practice it) it everyday.

                    • The suffrage march saw white women urging their black counterparts to “sit this one out” or “move to the back”.

                      Yes feminism attracts women from all creeds but it doesn’t accept them just because they’re attracted to it.

                    • Annalise Keating

                      So are you saying that the ideology of feminism was created by and belongs exclusively to white women? Are you talking about the US exclusively or the world?

                      I honestly can’t say I am an expert in the history of feminism in the USA. I do know that matriarchal and or gender equalitarian societies outside of the US existed before feminism and women’s movement in the US.

                    • I’m speaking on feminism in the USA and how it isn’t very inclusive if you’re not a well to do white woman.

                      Globally I believe it’s meant to be for every woman though.

                    • Annalise Keating

                      Got it.

                    • Lea Thrace

                      uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

                      no

                    • Annalise Keating

                      Ok. You are entitled to your opinion.

          • miss t-lee

            I wouldn’t know. I’m not a bruncher.
            However, to stick her in the same sentence as Charlemagne is ridiculous.

            • I told you it’s just Todd being Todd. You just pat him on the head and say “that’ll do pig, that’ll do”.

              • miss t-lee

                Nah. When you say stuff, you gotta be able to explain it.

                • Todd likes his women submissive. Docile if you will. Can’t speak out against the patriarchy around that one.

                    • Boom goes the dynamite!

                    • When you answering my question about which buzzwords you were referencing?

                    • The entire article was my answer. It reads like a parody of a column.

                    • I’ll agree to disagree. But thanks for the answer regardless.

                  • miss t-lee

                    That’s all well and good, however don’t lump the woman in with the likes of Charlemagne…like what the f*ck.
                    She’s actually a respected journalist, feminism aside.

                    • did you really expect Todd to speak glowingly of that woman?

                    • miss t-lee

                      I don’t expect anything from anyone…lol

                    • You should expect even less from Todd as it concerns this subject.

                    • miss t-lee

                      I don’t know that man.

                    • That’s probably a wonderful thing.

                    • miss t-lee

                      I don’t have any beef with Todd. Whatever his positions are, they are. And that’s fine.

                  • Mademoiselle_FK

                    Hi! Awww are you just teasing or do you really think that docile submissive women embrace and condone patriarchy? ?

                    • I’m having tongue in check conversations with people I’ve been interacting with online for the past 8-10 years

                    • Mademoiselle_FK

                      Apologies four missreading, And thank you for explaining.
                      Have a lovely day.

              • “M”

                ROFL

          • *look in rulebook*

            I.S. 3.4.01.a-low-key shade of someone people like

            that’s a $25 offense sir

            #RuleOfLaw

        • It’s ok, we know Todd doesn’t much subscribe to black women outside the kitchen ;-)

          jk Todd, don’t shoot! Lol

      • Lol

        Good ol’ Todd being Todd. Nice to see you guy.

      • i think…i know what you’re getting at.
        but ’tis another discussion for another time and place.

      • Charlemagne is more of a comedic provocateur. I don’t see her that way.

      • MsSula

        I have followed her blog since the Sista Toldja’s days… back in the dark ages of the Internet. If you read her then, you will understand and appreciate the person she is now. I think it can be difficult for people who discover her anew, especially black men. She has strong opinions that come from well-thought arguments. She just doesn’t explain (and does not need to) her current positions.

        She is actually the one who sent me to VSB.

        • I keep telling y’all Todd wants his black women to be seen and not heard.

        • Negro Libre

          I’m sure me and Jamilah went at it on TheFreshXpress when that was still a thing; my, have things changed.

          • MsSula

            Yeah, she also had beef with Panama and Damon at some point. That’s the thing. I am an opinionated woman myself, so chances are I will have beef with people at some point or the other. But I respect learning from mistakes and strong opinions and forging new ones based on listening. Like I said, I have seen Jamilah grow exponentially in her writing, refining her opinions, just generally blossom into who she is. And yup, I am as proud as any big sister would be.

            • panamajackson

              Did she have beef with us? Cuz she’s like the real homie. With both of us. Shoot, when she intro’d me at the panel she took a sidebar to talk about how proud she was of me and my accomplishments in life. Talked about coming up in DC back in the day. I imagine she may have taken issue with a piece here or there, but so has my mama. Still family. lol

              • MsSula

                Not really beef with you per se. It was just a misunderstanding (in the early, early days) and yes, that’s what families do. They disagree. :-)

        • miss t-lee

          I remember her original blog too.

        • I suppose so. I knew she was a popular writer, but I didn’t realize that so many people stanned for her. Also, a friendly reminder to all that a man not liking a particular female writer isn’t a sign that I want all women to shut up. I can disagree with you and still appreciate your voice.

          • MsSula

            Is this a response to my post above? Or is this like a lumped response? Because I don’t understand some of your references (stanned, wanting all women to shut up etc…). Where is this coming from?

            • It’s a lumped response. My bad.

      • KeyBrad

        Nope, not Charlemagne…not at all.

        • “M”

          Not. At. All.

      • “M”

        We know, we know.

        You’re like Ademar from A Knight’s Tale.

        You “want your women silent”.

        /mhm

    • panamajackson

      She’s awesome in many, many ways. Always been a fan of her writing, even in those moments when I disagreed with her stance. She’s one of those folks whose success I feel is very warranted. Like you knew it was coming, just maybe not sure how, but she’s definitely earned whatever wins she gets. Glad I can say she’s the homie.

      • MsSula

        Exactly.

      • panamajackson

        Let that man crush in peace.

        • Like Rosa Parks famously said, “Nah”

      • Hiding My ?hide yours 2

        He said he sending you liquor. Was it for her passion and brilliance too Malik? Or……

        • Malik so trifling. I keep trying to tell y’all but y’all so distracted by that “innocent face” and for those of you who’ve met him in person, his “soft spokeness”.

          • Do you wanna tell us in the comments my dear? :D

            • I’d like to smack you but I’m 100% sure you’re into masochism so it wouldn’t be enjoyable for me sadly.

          • Character assassination!

        • She declined.

          • Hiding My ?hide yours 2

            But was it for her passion and brilliance doe?

            • I’ve never been in the same room as her so I can’t speak towards her passion. Her is a smart lass though.

              • Hiding My ?hide yours 2

                He? Why you doing Ruby dirrrty?

                • Don’t do that I’m commenting on my phone. I’m lucky 30% of these words are right

                • He treat me like animol.

                  • Hiding My ?hide yours 2

                    A VSB needs to step up and step in and comfort this heartbroken lass!!! You can’t be short doe.

                    • Quirlygirly

                      H*3 can comfort her..oh wait..he short..Nevemind

                    • Lea Thrace

                      AP is like 10 inches tall herself. She dont need no tall man!

                      You know how I feel about this subject Q. WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?!!

                    • Quirlygirly

                      VIVA LA SHORT WIMMENZ!!!

                    • Wait a gahtdamb minute.

                      Excuse you? I’m never too short to have the man my heart desires.

                    • Nah. What do those strong black women say? I don’t needa man! I define me!

                  • Tam

                    Is that why you have been batting your eyelids at triple H?

                    • well apparently me being as not-so-tall as i am…she needs a big man…i wish her the best *1/2 snif* #badmannahshedtear

      • These are empirical facts.

        • Oh ok. Let me get my notepad out since you dropping fax today.

      • Tam

        Is that jealousy?

  • Val

    Congratulations on speaking at Morehouse, PJ. I know that was a proud moment for you. And thanks for the wrap up. It all sounds like a great time. Kudos. Oh and I’m going to check out that panel on fb live.

    • panamajackson

      The panel was flames.

      • Val

        Dr. Carr is making me want to audit some of his classes at Howard. Wow.

        • PhlyyPhree

          YOU SHOULD!!!!!
          The man is truly a gift. I didn’t truly appreciate the one class I had with him until it was over and now I try to see him speak everywhere I can. Luckily, he’s everywhere so it isn’t as hard as it could be. Lol

        • panamajackson

          Right?

  • Dr Carr is the absolute best! What an awesome opportunity to return to your alma mater and spread love and light Panama!

    • panamajackson

      Dr. Carr is an amazing speaker. I’m always envious of those academic types especially who are so clear and concise in their thoughts and presentation of them. He is impressive as a mug.

      • He’s part of a Black Genius Syposium at the current institution I’m at; it’s always a joy having him around.

        Morehouse should be so proud to have you grace their campus again :-)

        • panamajackson

          Hopefully one day the institution itself invites me down.

          • They’ll be begging to have you clear your schedule for them.

            Wait on it.

  • I’m sure this was a heII of an opportunity and experience for you. Congrats, and kudos.
    Shout out to you and all great things still to come your way.

    • panamajackson

      Thank you. Here’s hoping that there are more opportunities to actively engage with the school.

  • Roz

    Sooooooo when’s the next awesome panel/hangout in Houston?? I’ve been lurking for a while but I know I’ll be down. Happy you went back home, Panama. I’m sure they were proud to have you. I’ll also check out the feed, I enjoy a healthy critic of President Obama – it certainly balances my fangirl-ness.

    • panamajackson

      You know, we might need to set up a Houston thing. Seems like a perfect place to bring some VSBness.

      • miss t-lee

        Hurry hurry, quick, quick.

      • Valerie

        Yes!

      • Jetty

        Can’t tell you how often I encounter otherwise intelligent people and ask why they aren’t deep diving on VSB. We need a Very Smart presence down in the H!!!! Please… PLEASE… pull up!

        • MsSula

          But there was one. We had a couple of meetups and stuff… But as all good things, it fizzled. Lol.

          • panamajackson

            Rekindle.

      • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

        So Cali almost single-handedly almost kept Dolt45 from office but no love. Interesting.

      • Philly too, riiiight?

    • I’m here for all the shenanigans we can get into in the H! ??

    • miss t-lee

      I look forward to us all rapping Mo City Don.

    • I want a nice Texas steak.

  • Other_guy13

    Didn’t make it to see everyone speak. But the meet up was dope. Met some really cool folks and stayed WAY longer than I intended. Hopefully we can do that again.

    • panamajackson

      Were you one of the folks who stayed even after I left??

      • Other_guy13

        I was…I was in the group sitting at the bar in a circle having that extra deep conversations about expectations and relationships that you hurried away from lol. So 11ish is when we all left….good times

        • panamajackson

          I think I hurried away cuz I jumped in at some really odd comment and was like…you know what…let me go get another drink. lol. I couldn’t tell if it was a deep convo or a shenanigans laden convo.

          • Other_guy13

            Lil bit of both lol

        • panamajackson

          Thanks for coming out tho.

          • Other_guy13

            Anytime.

  • PhlyyPhree

    I’m jealous. I NEVER get ti make it to meetups in any city, anywhere nor do I get to do panels and discussions because #singleparent. Somebody start a VSB sitters club so I can participate!!!

    And kudos for checking that accomplishment off your bucket list. Speaking at your alma mater? AMAZING EXPERIENCE.

    Also…one small note PJ. The dope panel that happened before yours?
    Dr. Greg Carr from Howard University.
    I SWEAR I’m not nitpicking, but he is one of my absolute favorite people of all time so maybe a slight edit?

    • NY is 5min from Philly

      • PhlyyPhree

        And I’m not in either city….

        • MsSula

          There are always meetups in DC though, right darling?

          • PhlyyPhree

            On Wednesdays and Thursdays it seems. It’s hard as fuck to get a midweek sitter.

            • MsSula

              That’s true. We need to ask them for weekend meetups!!

            • Why not the weekend? Who is setting these odd dates?

              • PhlyyPhree

                Idk. I just remember the last two panels discussions that VSB was apart of that I wanted to attend were midweek.

                • panamajackson

                  You’re right…we haven’t done a DC meetup. I suppose we can put that on the schedule for March.

                  • PhlyyPhree

                    March? Cool. I know it will probably be the second Tuesday so I’ll start looking for a kidwatcher now. Lol

            • Cleojonz

              Not only that but who are these people that get out of work before 5 or right at 5 that can be at an event that starts at 5? Not me.

              • Lea Thrace

                im trying to find that kind of job. cause that means you living the easy life.

                • panamajackson

                  Also…if something WERE to start at 5…that clearly means doors. We all know that in DC nobody gets off til like 6.

              • panamajackson

                We haven’t had any 5pm events. They all start at 6pm at the earliest. If they’re VSB things anyway.

                • Cleojonz

                  OK but for me to get to an NYC event starting at 6 I still gotta leave my little hamlet slightly before 5 if it’s during the week. I hardly leave work before 6. I stroll in when I get in though so I guess I can’t really complain.

                  I guess I should bear in mind we talking about black folk anyway and that means I don’t need to be on time lol.

                  • Quirlygirly

                    Sounds like me..Stroll in..they know I’m coming..but I don’t leave before 6. I actually get more done when everyone is gone

              • cdj

                Me! I have to be at work by 7:15, though, and I’m not a morning person :-(

              • PhlyyPhree

                Lol. I actually am one of those people but still. I feel your pain, especially considering I’d have to cross the bridge through traffic in order to make it there at 5. I never show up on time to things anyway.

              • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

                Change jobs.

                • Cleojonz

                  And give up how I have trained these people not to look for me before 9:30? Nah B.

      • Lea Thrace

        methinks your concept of distance and time may be a bit off love.

        • miss t-lee

          Even I know this ain’t right.

        • PhlyyPhree

          LOL.
          I once went on a road trip with friends and we drove from NY to Philly to DC.
          They swear there’s no way I made it from Philly to DC in an hour. I swear they need to stop smoking
          I say that to say, I think Malik is right. Possibly. Ionkno
          LOL

          • Quirlygirly

            DC to Philly..that aint no hr ride..I thought at least 1.5 to 2 hrs..

            • MsSula

              2 hours. Then again I am a careful driver. Lol.

            • PhlyyPhree

              1.5 I’ll give you. But 2.5???
              How Sway?

              • porqpai

                By driving the actual speed limit, not the psychological speed limit.

                • PhlyyPhree

                  Speed limit? You mean those suggestion signs on the side of the road? Tuh.
                  I honestly don’t drive THAT fast. My car is a ticket magnet and I can’t afford to test highway state patrol that way.

                  • Cheech

                    I just had a meeting with law enforcement this morning on that very subject.

                    • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

                      You too? I got off with a citation. Wipes sweat off brow.

                    • Cheech

                      I got even luckier–a warning.
                      It was a radar trap around a bend; they were pulling people over en masse. Seemed unsporting on a 72 degree spring day in the park.

                    • PhlyyPhree

                      Yeaaaaa, I don’t want them problems big fella. Lol

                    • Cheech

                      Taking a different route today ….
                      A 25 mph limit on a parkway on a sunny day just seems unfair.

                • Cheech

                  Man, that’s gonna be a looooong-azz drive to NoLa that way.

              • Dee

                It’s a 120 miles min. I just moved and I’ve done the trip 1/2 dozen times all times of day, all hours. It is physically impossible to do in under 2 unless you are already on the highway and doing at least 90 for 85% of the trip. I generally hit ~75 – 80 mph and I’ve done two hours door to door as my fastest.

                • PhlyyPhree

                  #Alternativemaths
                  120 miles/ 80 mph doesn’t equal 2 hours.
                  I stand by 1.5 as my slowest time making that trip.

                  • Dee

                    no it’s not a straight line 120 miles (and that’s only if you measure from the outskirts to the outskirts. In reality it’s higher) nor are you averaging 80 miles for the entire trip. Those small, but critical things such as tolls, the tunnel, that small bridge, merging on/off, local traffic to get to and from the highway because you hit stoplights mean you will necessarily have to average a slower pace. But if you can make it door to door in 1.5 hours then you possess a superpower none of have.

          • Lea Thrace

            maam. Philly to DC is 2.5 hrs on a good day. Were YOU the one possibly smoking?

            • PhlyyPhree

              Smoking that expresswayyyyyy! Lol, nah. I don’t partake
              2.5 Seriously?
              Ya’ll drive slow. Or maybe I have a really good ezpass.

              • Blueberry01

                From PG to Philly is 2…and I have EZPass

            • Blueberry01

              On a great day…

        • Time is an illusion!

          • BT

            I will find a way to drop this in a future conversation.

            Thank you.

      • Michelle is my First Lady

        Uh, negative.

      • #KyrieIrvingMaps

        • 45min of getting into the city is traffic. The actual distance is miniscule. Getting from Long Island to Manhattan can take longer by car.

          • Blueberry01

            From Harlem to Philly or BK to Philly is about 2 hours by car.

            I’ve done both trips.

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        Time is a flat circle

        • BrothasKeeper

          Deeply profound!

        • Blueberry01

          #KyrieThoughts

      • Blueberry01

        Okay, Donald Trump.

    • LMNOP

      Yeah, single parent life, you hear about all these fun things people do and think “that’s nice, this weekend I will be doing fun activities like going to the store and the park, because my life is just that exciting.”

      Unless you’re Todd.

      • PhlyyPhree

        Look. Either Todd’s support system is UHMAYZING or his child knows not to go in the basement after 8 pm….
        I don’t have a basement or close relatives so I content myself fantasizing about all the ways I” return to “turnup” once my child can be left alone without a visit from CPS or some neighborhood hoodlum out to steal their innocence

        • Hsbbfbfhudhdbbh lol ??

        • MsSula

          *cackles*

        • It really isn’t. Visitation every other weekend helps a LOT. The other is that my brother and I coordinate with the whole b00ty chase. Since we live togehter, he isn’t out every day, and I usually get my daughter to bed before I leave for my shenanigans, it allows me to plot things out.

          • Brooklyn_Bruin

            Simon and Schuster needed to give you a book deal

            • Why? My life isn’t that interesting. I work, have a side hustle, take of my child and go without sleep a lot to have a social life. Big whoop.

              • Brooklyn_Bruin

                The way of the urban juggler, forward by Malcolm Gladwell

          • PhlyyPhree

            Ah. Makes sense. See when I say “single”, I mean “only”.
            And my sister is booed up, so I’m screwed up. (or not)

            • LMNOP

              Yeah having your kid 365 days a year and no other grown ups in the home really cuts down on shenanigan potential.

        • BT

          This is so real. The real is so this.

        • Ille Jay

          Apparently it’s probably much younger than you think…as I had to deal with this point of contention with my eldest and her Mother. 9yrs old is old enough to be in a home alone legally. smdh

      • It’s called visitation and masterful scheduling. Also I pretty much don’t speak to adults that aren’t either co-workers, business associates, relatives or people involved with my child in person before 9 PM unless I pull a lot of strings.

        • LMNOP

          Even though I am completely jealous, I’m actually glad I don’t have to deal with visitation for my kid though.

    • panamajackson

      I cant’ believe I did that. Fixed.

    • L8Comer

      Ohhh I love Dr. Carr for a couple reasons

    • JBusy

      Dr. Carr is definitely the GOAT.

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