Are you read for 12-13 sequels?
Or at least I’m sure that’s how many people feel after the recent media reports that Tyler Perry and his movie distributor Lionsgate were in talks to bring Tyler Perry’s productions to a new medium, most likely by creating a new cable television network, TylerTV. I’ve seen people losing their sh*t on Twitter and I only read for like five minutes. I’m fairly certain that the majority of the Reading Black Folks Consortium of America collectively yelled “no” and prepared for more non-sense and nincompoopery hitting our airwaves on a 24/7 basis.
Except here’s the thing, what’s the big damn deal? No…really. What’s the big deal?
We’ve been through this before and I get it. Tyler Perry is the living embodiment of the word “conversate”. He’s everything that’s wrong that doesn’t know its wrong and continues on smiling and shucking and jiving anyway. I’m sure we’re going to see some television shows that we never even knew that we never wanted to see. In fact, here are a few shows that have the potential to show up on TylerTV amid the objections of, well, everybody:
- Cooking With Madea- cookin’ Kool-Aid
-Madea’s Faith Based F*ckery – where Madea reads Psalms while waving a .44 in the air like she just doesn’t care and interviewing ex-cons and actresses who only star in Tyler Perry movies and TP knockoffs like Denise Boutte and Keshia Knight-Pulliam about their plight for Jesus
Eh, I bore with that exercise.
Anyway…
That movie studio and Mr. Perry — whose flourishing African-American fan base consistently turns his plays, television shows and films into hits — are forming a new venture called Tyler TV, according to an industry official briefed on the matter who requested anonymity because the plans are private.
The partners will initially stock the channel with reruns of Mr. Perry’s sitcoms and movies, including the popular Madea series, in which he appears in drag as the title character, a gun-toting grandmother. They also plan to buy third-party content that meshes with Mr. Perry’s Christianity-tinged brand.
I really don’t see what would make Tyler Perry’s channel any different than TVOne or BET to tell the truth…except that there’s a good chance that people might intentionally watch it. His fanbase is pretty rabid and can’t get enough of his movies. And at this point he has an abundance. Maybe I’m masochistic or turning Republican, but the idea that we’d get another station owned and run by a Black person is actually pretty dope. Granted, its Tyler Perry but I think he’s a necessary evil. And love him or hate him, the man knows how to cater to his base. Sure his movies browbeat their message into the watchers. But we know all that already.
Hm…you know what’s surprising? That Oprah’s OWN channel isn’t doing as well as they hoped. Do you know what that insinuates? People really only like their sh*t the way they like it. Folks want to see Oprah at 4pm every day on whatever network she was on. But now…folks can take or leave whatever it is she’s bringing. Folks didn’t want all that extra programming that they weren’t going to watch, they just want to see Oprah. Tyler Perry might be able to leapfrong that kind of problem since it seems that anything with his name attached does well. Tyler Perry could release phones and some church would offer to sponsor them with some of Jesus’s wine money.
I will say this, Tyler Perry has some issues. Now they seem to be ones that a lot of women respond to: this need for the male savior. I wonder if he’d pick television shows and create them in which the damsel in distress epidemic was front and center?
Who knows. All I know is that at the end of the day, Tyler Perry stays winning.
So I ask you VSBNinjas, what do you think about Tyler Perry’s potential new television network? Do you care at all? And for sh*ts and giggles…what do you think would be a new TV show that would run on TylerTV and TylerTV only?
-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL HE A 3
No, actually, I don’t care at all.
(goes to sit quietly an a corner and watch what develops)
You’ve been doing an alot of that lately… not taking your ball and going home, but definitely taking your ball and sitting at the edge of the court daring someone to ask you to play. What the deal?
Really? Is that what it seems like I’ve been doing? I guess I haven’t been participating much because I haven’t had much to contribute to many of the topics for the last couple of weeks.
I don’t think that when I do comment, I’m daring people to react/respond. I thought that I was just offering my thoughts and making smart ass comments as usual.
i’m with you on this one again… 2 days in a row.. i don’t care… at all… i barely watch television anyway
Hmmmm… perhaps I need to add a hash tag next time so that it’s more clear when I’m joking around. Maybe a #B-BoyStance at the end would have better set the tone yes?
Anyway, as I recall, you interacted a good deal on that husband vs. father conversation, actually agreed with some of what you said (go figure) so no, everything is everything.
Anyway, my bad, hashtags in the future. #IGotNext
Tis cool.
*terrorist fist bump*
Yeah, I feel that way as well. If I don’t have much to contribute, then I generally don’t.
Y’all ninjas could always contribute jokes. There’s always room for “funny”.
#ButYallStingy
(takes back terrorist fist bump)
#WhoStingy
You taking back the the terrorist fist bump? Damn TAC it’s like that? Dow Jones dropped that much that you putting price tags on fist bumps now? #ColdCruelWorld
I try not to be one of those people that comment just to say something and not because I have something to say *ahemFirstiesahem* so if y’all catch me doing that, feel free to point it out. I mean, what is fam for?
The irony of you saying this and yet being “firstie thirsty” yourself today…
…I’m not saying
…I’m just saying
#You’reOnOne <– SWIDT
*ahem*
I was first but I didn’t say “first”. Notable difference.
You are right though. I am the one. Even when I’m not first.
i was just about to say…how you gonna throw shots at the first ninjas…then you are first and your whole comment is basically about not having anything to say. lol.
they shoulda never gave you ninjas options.
i could give 2 sh*ts about tyler perry or his station. i wouldn’t tune or care to discuss any of is programming. what i would find ironic is if tylertv picked up the boondocks. now that would be hilarious.
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised. Business is business.
what i would find ironic is if tylertv picked up the boondocks.
It would not be the first time that such irony would come into play:
While Reginald Hudlin was BET’s President of Entertainment, Aaron McGruder produced two Boondocks episodes that caricatured him while lampooning BET. All while, for legal reasons, The Boondocks still listed Hudlin as an Executive Producer.
As an evil overlord, McGruder’s adept critique of BET did not make me happy. Unfortunately, irony sometimes prevails over evil!
Do I care? No. I simply won’t tune in. Others will. And life will go on.
That said, I expect Tyler Perry to resurrect “Homeboys In Space”. And perhaps a 2011 update of “What’s Happening?” rebranded and remarketed as a show called “What The Deal Son?”
Well, one thing’s for sure. He damn sure won’t be showing any episodes of the Boondocks. LOL
Tyler just needs to go to the LL Cool J school Of Battling. Lyrically LL didn’t win one battle (let me tell it), but everyone who ever went against him (literally) got put out of the business, Kool Moe Dee? Canibus? Careers destroyed.
If Tyler really wants to get some “get back” that’s how he should do it, put that bama out of business.
He’d better not dare or I will start to give a damn and trust that won’t be pretty.
both of those ninjas also helped to contribute to their own careers demise by lacking ability to remain relevant past a certain point too.
plus, Canibus made B.O.B.s album well before B.O.B. made it. only difference is, nobody was wearing skinny jeans and extra smedium shirts back then. Wyclef was specializing in soft ninja music a long time ago. ahead of his time.
So would that kind of make LL the Lenox Lewis of rap battles…
…didn’t really put any careers in the casket, just helped close the lid once they were in there.
I can dig it.
Lol! Now I’m interested in how a private meeting between Tyler Perry and Aaron McGruder would go.
Ehhh…not sure I care. No, scratch that, I’m very sure I don’t care.
Yet another judge show with Madea doling out justice as she sees fit. Or maybe a Maury-inspired game show where competing mothers fight for child support winnings.
Who knows? Those of us who don’t find it entertaining can continue to watch Will & Grace reruns, Modern Family and Treme.
Judge Madea Mathis would be bomb!!!!!
you know, you’re being funny, but a Judge Madea show might actually be good. Face it, our judges on these shows are pretty much just the country club version of madea with some of their jokes and “no-nonsense” attitudes, etc. Same sh*t.
SW Atlanta could use a Judge Madea.
SWATS could use a little grandmother justice. Really, any older Black woman would be a credit to the judicial system, especially the juvenile courts.
Still a newbie; trying to lurk so much!
well keep on talking.
If Tyler Perry is the living embodiment of “conversate”, who’s the embodiment of “irregardless”? Everything that sounds wrong, that you’ve been lead to believe is wrong, but when researched technically, hypothetically isn’t.
i believe that would be his alter ego, madea.
George W. Bush
Irregardless = Soulja Coon.
Irregardless would then equal Ying Yang Twins “The Whisper Song”
DEAD!
LMAO!!!!!
Steve Harvey
Uncle Joe, or whatever his other character name in those damn movies I get suckered into watching by my wife
DAMN YOU TP!!!!!
All I know is that when this news hit the fan, I heard, *this is NOT A DRILL, I repeat, this is NOT A DRILL*
I wish I could say I didn’t care, but I can’t help but think about all the new fans he will get with a whole channel saturated with ridiculousness.
I feel like I’m in a paddle boat and the titanic is sinking…. Save the band!
you know…i wonder why folks would worry about what would come on TV though? is it just the dearth of black shows that we WANT to represent us. sometimes i wonder if we dont all just get caught up in revisionist thinking since only the good shows really remain in our consciousness.
there were a lot of wack black shows back in the day.
you know what i’m scared of? that tyler perry actually decides to give a sh*t on this and creates a black TV station that is actually better than any other option. cuz what’s gonna happen when you ninjas start talking about…”umm…so i was watching TylerTV last night and saw the dopest documentary ever on social migration by birds like Amber Rose from Kanye to Wiz Khalifa.”
yo…motherf*cking Wiz Khalifa made 11 mil last year… Kanye made $14 mil.
ouch.
“Wiz Khalifa made 11 mil last year”
I find that hard to believe. I’m sure it’s written in some trustworthy publication as fact but how…why…when?
Wiz is touring like a muhfuh and I think that pays more than album sales do these days!
Touring pays waaaaay more than album sales.
Ain’t that much touring in the world for a ninja with 1 good song
You must remember “Homeboys from Outer Space” as one of the terrible black shows on tv back in the day.
i care in the “i don’t wanna see anymore coonin until there’s at least one regular show” way and i think we’d be better off without 24 hr tyler perry but i’m still pretty meh. i probably won’t watch it on purpose. it will be bet part 3, except the bet that they only show on sundays.
shows? i think he’d try to bring the mo’nique show to his station. maybe incessant reruns of his shows/movies now. i’m having a hard time coming up with things, because he just does the same idea over and over again.
agreed
I could see all sorts of fantabulous pseudo-reality programming on this channel. The kind with people who only exist for the purpose of making reality TV shows that make us feel good about ourselves. Like a dating show with handsome dark skinned men 6′ and up who only like to date women with children because they want to prove to black woman that good men exist
Or a show about men who’ve had epiphanies and return to their baby mamas to help raise a tight knit family because they want to prove to black woman that good men exist
Or a show about men who make enough money that the women they date would only have to spend money on looking cute and relaxing as their men take care of them because they want to prove to black woman that good men exist
LMAO at all those shows. They would be awesome and hilarious at the same time.
i am laughing soooo loud right now… good shows Fivegirl
woohoo! with the Yoles seal of approval I finally feel like part of the VSB fam *blush*
I love the fact that the plot factor that ties them all together is that “good men do exist”
Cause we all know that they don’t really. Unless they’re light-skinned.
LMAO, right. Everyone of his movies…well not Daddy’s Little Girls, but the other ones I can think of, the dark dude has been “wrong, bad, evil” and the light dude has been “right, good, positive.”
I guess…
“…but the other ones I can think of, the dark dude has been “wrong, bad, evil” and the light dude has been “right, good, positive.”
Nah, not really.
i dont know…khalil kain’s character in For Colored Girls might be the epitome of wrong, bad, and evil. i think i hate him now.
yeah that was the hardest… longest… scene EVER…. um, yeah Panama, thanks for the reminder/visual *pinch*
michael ealy’s character wasn’t a positive image either, and he’s light skinned…
I think he switched it up just for all y’all saying all his good guys are light skinned, LOL
probably! I was thinkin’ ’bout Laman Rucker in WDIGM and sayin, no mam he was allllllllllll good, lol
Yeah, but J.Scott’s hubby was darker so…yeah. LOL
That role killed every last association made to the character Bishop from “Juice”.
R.I.P. Bishop
Yeah, Tyler switched that skin tone thing as soon as he had Derek Luke be the good guy. I mean, he was Captain Save-a-Ho, but still…
exactly. and in general, the way the men come in to save the day is always so awkwardly contrived. Like really, the ridiculously handsome sheriff just happened to be around and available when your husband two timed you? Or the ridiculously handsome latin man was just hangin out in your basement wondering if he could beat up your man and fall in love with you? ok I can see that happening…
I see light skinned boriqua sherrifs hanging out in a basements beating up philanderers and ending emotionally abusive relationships with well timed peen action almost every day…
…y’all act like it doesn’t happen…
…wait
…nevermind
HA!!!
dead.
“Cause we all know that they don’t really. Unless they’re light-skinned.”
With cornrow cut-and-paste lacefronts.
**Dead**
Shemar Moore (in Diary of a Mad Black Woman) ~ oooohhh the title makes me mad. :#)<—– mad face
“With cornrow cut-and-paste lacefronts”
I just choked on water and almost ruined my laptop laughing at this!
You need to get these ideas copyrighted because Tyler Perry can read too and now you just gave him his whole first season.
Lol word.
I’d actually watch the prodigal father show.
you’re probably joking…lol…but that sounds like a lineup that all you ninjas would watch.
and by all you ninjas, i mean me and the rest of you ninjas too.
lol all of us ninjas would watch it. Because it would give us false expectations of reality hope and that’s really what all those feel good reality shows do. When I watch biggest loser i think “i can lose three hundred pounds too” if i go to a ranch and leave my life and have the world’s best personal trainers and that’s why it’s so succesful. These shows would put joy back into many a living room
strikethough fail.
My first instinct was to shout a very loud and resounding Hayle Nawl (fake country accent and all) but honestly, i don’t care one way or the other. I wouldn’t watch it and hopefully they will snatch House of Payne and Meet the Browns so i no longer have to encounter that nonsense when im watching TBS (very funny my arse!)
No.
As in no I don’t care.
Watching TV is so 2010. It’s all about that Netflix. And Netflix knows me better than to ever suggest anything with any Perry (other than Matthew) in it – what can I say, I loved Friends.
As for TylerPerry TV? I’m guessing a Wendy Williams-esque type show, except this time you don’t have to question whether the host was born male or female.
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+3
+4
*waves at Tes*
Welcome back Pres
*waves back while throwing confetti*
Hi VP!
I love Friends, too.
I hereby suspend your Black Card for up to 6 months. You are now prohibited from eating soul food, visiting Black neighborhoods without an escort or otherwise participating in Black activities. You may appeal the suspension, but it will be suspended until the appeal is heard.
(hands you mine as well)
Y’all was gonna take it sooner or later. I guess I should log out now since I’m pretty sure commenting on VSB is a Black activity.
I have divorced Netflix and I don’t have plans for reconciliation.
I’m close to doing the same, sigh. but for now I’m just dismissing the mail order portion and keeping the web streaming.
On what grounds? o.O
Too many craptastic movies and not enough good ones
I am too. . .disappointing.
Love netflix!
I just finished all 6 seasons of nip tuck.
I thought Wendy Williams was a martian like lil wayne.
Lil Wayne is the goon to a goblin. Wendy Williams and Drake obviously share a common ancestor.
:O
Leave my creamcicle dream ‘lone!
LOL Wendy aka Wendell Williams
I thought Meet the Browns and House of Payne were the same show… I guess in a way they are. More power to him if he gets a network. He’s not my cup of green tea but I won’t actively wish him to fail. s/n Homeboys in Outerspace should come back… at least Flex will be working again and not hawking fake Ipads for Verizon. He must not have saved any of that money he made on that MJ biopic. Sad face.
I thought the SAME thing about Flex when I watched that commercial a few days ago.
Hell at least Flex had a show in the last decade, Darryl Mitchell hasn’t been seen since that show got cancelled.
As long as they bring back the chick that played Ahma(sp?) I’m on board.
Darryl Bell (correction: not Mitchell) did all of one show since then – that “Real Househusbands” reality show with Tempestt Bledsoe. And that show got canceled with a quickness.
As many times as I’ve watched House Party I should know who Daryl Mitchell is.
Yo, I HOLLERED when I saw Flex in that Verizon commericial the other day. LOL Talk about random.
LMAO!!! So I’m not the only one that noticed Flex in the Verizon commercial! I keep seeing black celebrities from the 90′s pop up in commercials (with no lines). Right now I can recall seeing one of the BET VJs in some commercial (I can’t remember his name, Joe?)
Yup…Joe Clair. I guess you gotta get in where you fit in. *YeShrug*
Joe Clair…he pretty much gave up and has been getting those residual commercial checks for a minute now.
Flex lost all kinda points for that MJ biopic.
that’s b/c that MJ biopic was the worst biopic in history.
on a sidenote, im glad Flex is getting work. Commercial work has to be good dough. and i mean the ninja aint working for cricket wireless. its verizon. i mean they’re on strike here in DC but im sure they aint everywhere. lol
The funniest thing about that movie is that they picked a man of 1985 MJ skin tone to play a man who was only going to get lighter and lighter as the film progressed and thought “O we’ll just slap some of that dave Chappelle Chuck Taylor pancake makeup on him and it’ll be fine”… it wasn’t fine. By the time he married Lisa Marie I was squirming in my seat. Also the movie sucked. More power to him for collecting that paycheck. I think if he had been playing himself in the commercial like as a spokesperson or even playing some random customer it would have had less sting than him playing a Verizon employee. Like it made me feel like that’s his real job now… working at the Kiosk in the mall. NTTAWWT
“The funniest thing about that movie is that they picked a man of 1985 MJ skin tone to play a man who was only going to get lighter and lighter as the film progressed and thought “O we’ll just slap some of that dave Chappelle Chuck Taylor pancake makeup on him and it’ll be fine”… it wasn’t fine.”
LOL, right! I mean, did a casting director just see him doing an obscure impersonation one time and was like… ‘He’ll be PERFECT!” I seriously think that’s what happened in real life. Because I do remember he would do a few impersonations for comedic purposes. Which, every Black comedian has to do by law.
I know right. I was looking at that commercial like, “is that Flex”. Lol One on one was pretty good though. I would take that over Homeboys in Outerspace. Just saying….
I don’t give a damn about TP’s potential network plans. I swear folks act as if he nailed Jesus to the cross himself.
What I care about it Oprah’s OWN network taking up a perfectly good channel space with reruns of 48 Hrs Mystery, Babies Behind Bars and the 25 Year closing special behind the scenes of her show. Like, why create a network and have no programming to back it up? She doesn’t have not one show that I see and am like “oh…let me watch that.” I’m so used to her winning that this new venture failing is really making me angry. Well, not really. I don’t actually care other than her taking up a channel space that could be used for something else.
Back to the topic at hand…as long as TP keeps employing under-used black actors/actresses, keeps giving up and coming black key grips, directors, and other stage personnel work, I say “do ya thang TP!”
****and the 25 Year closing special behind the scenes of her show. ****
LOL
mo-vss
why create a network and have no programming to back it up? She doesn’t have not one show that I see and am like “oh…let me watch that.”
i dont think you’re her target audience, unless you can relate to suze orman, or have a well-off husband.
Well, damn…maybe I wanna be financially savvy and sh*t.
But real talk, unless her target audience is women who kill, have either been behind bars and/or have family behind bars or have a secret crush on Dr. Phil, then I doubt anyone is watching it cuz the sh*t is the worst.
LOL, I mentioned that below, Dr. Phil is in heavy rotation. I like Suze Orman but guess what- she already has a show! I think they do play reruns of Say Yes to the Dress. I usually end up catching that on weekend mornings.
I am Nameless, and I approve (of) this message…
i’ve also wondered about her programming. its like her station faded into obscurity after the big hullabaloo that was supposed to come out of it.
plus, its motherfcking oprah. i expected her to stay winning too in a major way.
like who wouldnt want to be on oprahs’ station? well nobody now i guess. maybe she didnt have as much pull as we all thought.
I agree totally with you. I almost think she should have held hostage the Nate Berkus, Dr Phil, Dr Oz, etc shows until she got a network. It seems like she ran out of ideas. The only show I ever partially watched the masterclass show and lisa ling’s show. I love Oprah, but the network is missing a core or real programming. I think a lot of networks are missing solid scripted shows in general though.
Iyanla seemed like she was down for work after that 2-part reunion to “clear the air”.
I also agree, Mo. I may not like all of Tyler Perry’s products, but I am glad he is making gains and hiring a lot of people of color behind and in front of the camera. Madam Noire also made me realize is that he also tackles the “secret” in black families, that can be painful and isn’t often discussed.
Just another network of the millions I won’t watch. Unless they bring back “Girlfriends” or “Full House”
Unless they bring back “Girlfriends”=>
I wirte my signature next yours sir. On the left hand side.
*write
you know…i actually think Tyler Perry should do an In Living Color type of show.
i’ll say this, if Tyler Perry were to ask me to write a show for that network, id do it in a heartbeat.
y’all could call me Sellout P.
As long as you throw in my business card, we’re cool. At least I can say you tried while selling out.
…and allow me to do your international marketing and publication, I will beat off the haters as we smiling in a private jet
I’d call you Rich P. which would make you a 6.
I feel great knowing that I was away from Twitter long enough to only catch the tail end of the Tyler Perry bashin and didn’t care to know why people were going in. Dude’s turned into a tackling dummy for most of us, and it’s just not that interesting any more.
He’s gonna get a new network? Good for him. He’s gonna let Tasha Smith say “I need a drink” 73 times a month and prolly watch his network do poorly. Dah well. Such is life.
despite my lack of general belief in him…i actually think that he could probably pull off a network of interesting shows. let’s be real, his movies are black lifetime movies. and women love them some lifetime. if he keeps that sh*t up on his network and adds programming intended to uplift women by telling them that they need a man to make their lives better then i think he’ll be okay. lol
Maybe if Tyler Tv takes the rubbish reality shows and re-runs of played out black movies (baby boy) from Bet/MTV/vh1(since they are one company) then maybe they will go back to playing music… Wait for it – I guess not
Oh and if you watch Oxygen (home of Snapped~a personal fave, Bridezillas, the Bad Girls Club and other debauchery) Tru TV, Spike TV, anything Vh1reality related and any network that shows updated versions of Cheaters, then you need to check how you feel about TP bringing debauchery to television. Cuz what you are saying (if you watch those networks/programs) is that it’s only okay to showcase if it’s not him or anyone black doing it.
If you don’t like it, then don’t like it…ALL OF IT!
I can dig it.
+1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
+6
If you don’t like it, then don’t like it…ALL OF IT!
That would be me. I don’t watch (un)Reality tv although I do occasionally watch Pawn Stars since there’s an historical lesson that sneaks in there and you can actually learn something.
im with you on that.
as a shoutout to one of my employers, Bridezillas is on WEtv. Not Oxygen.
but that’s the interesting double standard about Tyler Perry. folks love watching as much f*ckery as possible. but when Tyler Perry does it and actually makes the money off of it, folks take issue. its an odd dance.
its the tango.
Old woman says mmhm
“Cuz what you are saying (if you watch those networks/programs) is that it’s only okay to showcase if it’s not him or anyone black doing it.”
Truth!
I vaguely read about this on Twitter (something about him hiring new staff for the network) and I said I’d work there in a heartbeat. But, that’s just my greedy, user, “get my foot in the door” self talking. Which is what Hollywood is all about. Yay.
“That Oprah’s OWN channel isn’t doing as well as they hoped.”
This has more to do with her tossing it off to some other dude to run instead of manhandling that herSELF. Which, I know she didn’t have time to do (which is why having a network was doing the most in the first place). Now that she realizes that she has ther PERSONAL Midas touch (meaning, she has to intimately be involved with something in order for it to be a success), she named herself CEO, but it may be too late. It’s tainted. But she is Oprah… so we’ll see how she revives it. If at all.
Anyway, looking forward to a Madea documentary or something. Behind the Mammy: Madea. ( ._.)
i’d watch Behind The Mammy.
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I predict that this will be the opposite of OWN. People love Oprah, but no one watched her raggedy-azz network (Who the f*ck cared about Ryan and Tatum O’Neal? And am I supposed to cry about Fergie stupidly throwing away all the perks of royalty? BOO-HOO!)
People clown Tyler Perry, but I predict this will be ridiculously popular, though no one will be able to explain why. I just hope he has reality shows about Cheri Dennis, Brooke Valentine, Lil Mama, the Eddie Long accusers and a random assortment of video h0es. It only makes sense.
All of that…I hate the OWN network (was talking to you on twitter yesterday about it I believe) and I think TP’s network could easily be better than hers.
I heard (somewhere) the problem is that people only like Oprah. I think her show about making Oprah is doing well, it’s the other shows that aren’t. I’ve turned to it a couple times and it seems like they show more Dr. Phil than anything.
im with you. i think TP actually has the potential to pull off a gangbusters network. b/c he never abandoned his base in the first place which is the big knock on oprah by many black folks.
TP is relentlessy focused on urban people and doesnt shy away from that being his focus. hell, he might be able to get obama re-elected.
Eh, me no care if Tyler gets his own network. I don’t have cable, and even if I did I would not partake in it. What they need to be doin’ is bringing back TGIF on ABC or something like it. I miss Family Matters, Step By Step, Hangin’ With Mr. Cooper, and all those other shows. *Sighs*, to be a kid again…
Agreed. Back to the days when comedy was just, everyday household comedy. And accompanied with great family values.
THEME SONGS! We need shows with theme songs!
Lol. That comment gave me the image of you as the kid in the class enthusiastically yelling to the teacher,”THEME SONGS!! We need shows with theme songs.”
The theme song to Step By Step was my jam.
I think Oprah’s emails are causing her to lose her audience. Narcisstic drivel about what she ate and who she talked to and how she felt about what she ate and who she talked to.
I told Oprah to remove me from her email list.
Tyler Perry can pull off this network thing. He has a better idea of what his target audience will watch. I think the folks going hard on him in Twitter will watch Tyler Perry’s network in secret after their Tyler Perry hating friends and family have gone home.
I do think the network’s Valentine’s Day lineup will be:
Why Did I Get Married
I Can Do Bad By Myself
Why Did I Get Married Too?
Diary of a Mad Black Woman
Meet the Browns
For Colored Girls
LoL
If you don’t like it, vote with your remote. Ratings talk.
Signed X __Someone who works in television
As for Tyler programming, that sounds like fun. I’ll come back for that later.
If Tyler Perry gets his own Network…it will definitely be a train wreck in a making.
I don’t watch Tyler Perry shows..just Tyler Perry movies or plays on tape. They are funny..and highly entertaining when you are with a group of friends.
That said, I probably won’t watch his channel. I don’t think his sitcoms are funny and don’t think they will be any funnier on his own channel.
I’m thinking he might do a “Madea” Springer..but only feature crazy white folks. I think Madea was on Jerry Springer in his last movie..right? Yeah. I think he definitely has an appreciation for those type of shows…and also courtroom shows. OH it would be hella funny if he did a Law and Order type show. LOL
I was hoping for a Law and Order type show actually. I really like those, and I want there to be more of them, I don’t care whose name is on it.
This Tyler Perry topic is almost as overdone as the whole “Black Women Can’t Get a Man” topic. Why is Tyler Perry the punching bag of the black community? I don’t watch most of his movies because they don’t interest me but I’m not about to bash the man for employing more black actors than any other writer, producer, director, etc. Tyler Perry TV probably won’t produce any award winning shows but I’m sure the content won’t be anywhere near the buffoonery of Basketball (Non)Wives and most of BET’s content.
Touché.
Right?! I absolutely despise the ‘entertainment’ of reality shows. I mean seriously? Folks gonna complain about TPerry’s at least wholesome movies; i.e. I ain’t never seen any R-rated shyt or heard a lot of cursing in his movies. On top of that, there is a lot of reference to faith and belief of faith. That is a far cry from what happens on sick arse Basketball Wives or whatever those other shows in DC or ATL are (something about wives) where everyone is screaming at one another, throwing drinks, threatening to kick a biotchs arse, etc. Please! I’ll take a TPerry movie/television show ANY DAY over that degrading display of humanity shyt.
****Why is Tyler Perry the punching bag of the black community?****
Some… ok… alot of his criticism is warranted. But all criticism is not created equal. Some is motivated by substance, and some is motivated by “Herd Mentality”. You can tell them apart because one attacks ideas, the other attacks the person.
Many people are trying to get to, or maintain a spot in the middle of the social herd. It’s an acceptance thing… and a way to avoid falling victim to the herd as well. Where the herd goes, they go. If it becomes popular to hate Tyler Perry, the reasons why don’t matter… they will hate him as well.
Speak on it! These same people will watch-and brag about watching- some of the most ratchet stuff. I enjoy Tyler Perry productions for what they are. Feel good fun. No tricks n hoes, no gangsta murder spree, no teenage crack addicts raising babies. I hope he does very well.
I on the other hand don’t really watch Tyler Perry productions. Just not my cup of tea. But other than the regualar level of clowning that I’d do with anyone, I just don’t feel compelled to jump on the “Tyler IS the Apocalypse” Bandwagon to curry favor with the “cool kids”. If you like TP’s work you like it. If you don’t, you don’t.
Most of my friends and peers HATED “Hav Plenty”. I enjoyed it. Most of my friends and peers quote “Love Jones” like it was a cultural watershed event. I don’t. I’m truthfully meh on Love Jones. Sometimes you just gotta be comfortable doing your own thing… even if the crowd isn’t with you… especially when the crowd isn’t with you.
My issue with Tyler Perry though is a broader issue with entertainemt. Just because there are no trick and hoes, murder or drugs doesn’t necessarily mean it’s interesting. I guess it’s good that he doesn’t do that stuff, but where is the more intelligent stuff. I’m not asking for Black Arthouse stuff, but something where I can’t figure out the ending from the first 5 minutes.
But if that’s not HIS thing and/or what he chooses to produce with HIS OWN MONEY, then who are we to say what he has to do? Where does the “don’t lump us together” mentality kick in with situations such as these? Why do we always call for the intelligent stuff and then when we get it (Spike Lee’s stuff for example) there’s still a problem?
If I’m not paying for TP’s productions and such, and what he produces makes money, then does he owe me, you or anyone else “intelligent productions?” No, he doesn’t.
I’m not saying that he owes me intelligent productions. He’s free to make what he wants. I’m free not to like it. Apparently, enough people are feeling his work. He’s not missing my dollar in the slightest. If he made something brilliant or attempts to (like he did with For Colored Girls and Precious), I will give him my support. If he makes Madea Goes to Alaska, I won’t. Either way, dude is getting paid.
My hate for Tyler Perry burned wildly in the midst of nothing but Tyler Perry fans and Tyler Perry moderates. I had to search the net or like-minded people. Tyler Perry non-fans that I meet are often relieved to find another person who hates Tyler Perry as much as they do. I can’t agree with the herd dynamic, because there really aren’t that many of us, at least in my experience. There might seem to be a lot since we can be so vocal.
Find me a black person who hates Tyler Perry’s stuff AND R. Kelly’s musack and you’ll have me dancing like that bee girl at the end of the Blind Melon video.
Yes he employs more black actors, but at what cost? After seeing his last play(forcefully), I wouldn’t say what level of buffoonery he wouldn’t stoop to. After watching Meet the Browns once, I just won’t say. Now yes other producers have the average hood persona portayed on tv and I wish they would also show the other side. But with Tyler being one of the most well-known leading black producers(our spokesperson), he should do better. And I think thats why people come down on him. He has the position, just use it…wiser.
+1… I mean I might not like all of it but I don’t like most of what’s on tv so, meh.
i said this on twitter but i dont buy the employment argument for various reasons as his saving grace. like it does matter and i think that we need Tyler Perry but not just cuz he employs black people. if it was a liquor company that he was running that ONLY sold Alize and he was making money hand over fist would we sing his praises?
however, i agree with you.
i actually think it has potential even though i skewer dude on occasion.
You know what’s funny? The same folks who hate Tyler Perry (and didn’t give him props for employing a bunch of black folks) were the ones who villified him that one time he had to fire a bunch of the writers…. I think it was during that whole WGA fiasco, doe. But it was a great example how his naysayers see no right in him.
Preach! We certainly have that crabs in a barrel mentality downpacked. Man hasn’t even launched the network and everybody saying they won’t watch. Would love to be a fly on the wall in several houses when it does because I bet half of the naysayers will be tuned in just so they can say, “I didn’t like it”, will tune in the next week just to say, ” I tried to give it another chance” ,and will tune in secretly from there on out because it actually was entertaining. SMH
Not sure what level of reality you are living on.
Also Crack employs black people too, that doesnt make it right.
So True, So True…
“Hm…you know what’s surprising? That Oprah’s OWN channel isn’t doing as well as they hoped. Do you know what that insinuates? People really only like their sh*t the way they like it. Folks want to see Oprah at 4pm every day on whatever network she was on. But now…folks can take or leave whatever it is she’s bringing. ”
I recently had conversation about this, IMO Oprah network sounded good in theory but in practice not so much. I think she was 10yrs too late, had she launched network 10yrs ago before dvr/reality show era she would hv had a chance. but now only shows ppl seem to watch are reality shows and ppl don’t watch live tv anymore really, they dvr it. Her target is off, her “feel good/you can live better” topics/shows were nice in 1 hour blocks but ppl don’t want to watch hours of that at a time. I can remember the last time i watched one channel for more that 2hours straight, usually i change between channels
when ppl get home and watch tv they want to be entertained(distracted), most times by drama/fcukery that reality show provide(bbw, bgc,rhoa, singles ladies, true blood etc). No one wants to watch 3-4hours of “i can show you how to live better” type shows after coming home from long day of work/school or whatever. bottom-line i think oprah over estimated the allure of her name/brand and waited too late.
As far as TP, i think something would happen, his network would get lost in the shuffle of reality shows and established networks. His current content and catalog does not warrant a network. does anyone even watch them two tv shows? Plus BET and TVOne have blk viewership on lock
I hope TP get his network and it becomes a success…not a big fan of his work but the women in my family seem to really like his movies/shows/plays/household cleaning supplies…
It would be a great place to intern and learn the tv/film industry from the inside out…
A great reality show for TylerVision would be “The Rose Squad”, about a group guys(Edris Elba/Rick Fox/Shemar Moore lookalikes?) who takes deserving women away from their jobs/homes and pamper them for the day.
Wheres my check and Producer credit?
That sounds all the way on-point.
Yess!
mo-vss/fivegirl
I can do this all night…
How bout “2nd Shot”, a singing competition for women over 40…
It’ll be like American Idol, but with all Susan Boyles.
check and producer credit, please
I like both of those already. Who would the judges be for 2nd Shot?
Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, and Rodney Jerkins.
wip
I like both of those already. Who would the judges be for 2nd Shot?
Donnie Simpsons/Sherri Carter(the original “AJ & Free”)
Melba Moore
Stephanie Mills
Angela Winbush
Michael McDonald
(Uncle)Charlie Wilson
Anita Baker
I can keep going…
Bring Donnie & Sherri back and I WILL BE WATCHING THIS!!!!
Yes. I think Charlie Wilson would be a great judge too. How can we get this started? Bake sale?
whats with y’all and reality shows where you get pampered? lol.
+ 1
I don’t care for all the buffoonery that Tyler Perry endorses. And I honestly think that if he gets his own network, it will probably thrive. This is for the same reason that his television shows are still on air and there is a reality show (or 3) on almost every network. A lot of people thought that Meet the Browns and House of Payne would be off air by now.
Ignorant people love foolishness, therefore, ignorant people support foolishness=Someone will always become successful off this crap. If it has not become apparent, the uneducated people outway the educated. And then you have the variation of dodgy educated persons, who are glib most of the time. IMO, Tyler Perry sized up the statistical American person and catered to all the bollocks that they love. He may look fake @ss for doing so, but his money doesn’t. It’s as authenic as Panama being a 3.
OMG… all you TPerry haters! Just hatin on the man. Why? Okay, blame it on the yt girl, but I enjoy — ENJOY — I tell you TPerry movies. And, yeah, I would probably watch his offerings on TylerTV because they are FUNNY AS HELL! Yes, they are! You know they are!
Madea is my mentor! I swear TPerry knew my ex-bf’s mother! And, a few of my friends who always had some fresh cooked grits on the stove! LMAO I guess you just have to be from the south to enjoy that humor.
It’s like the movie “Oh brother where art thou?” with George Clooney. Not a lot of people got that movie UNLESS you were from the south and then it was the funniest sh*t you ever saw! I told my mom & dad about OBWAT for weeks before they actually watched it and then they couldn’t get enough of the stupidity and simpletons of southern white folks. Every time I called them the daymn movie was playing for like 2 months!
I can’t believe this crowd is such TPerry haters! Like a friend of my daughter said, “Haters make you famous.” Keep on hatin and TPerry will keep winning.
And, I’ll be enjoying every minute of the fun.
#TeamTPerry for the win!
Are you really comparing the Coen brothers to Tyler Perry.
I compared the type of movies, not necessarily the creators.
The issue here is that Tyler Perry is only giving us a modern version of Good TImes. What is missing from his body of work is that section of us who are normal, professional, educated and drama free. Tyler is another version of the BET, TVOne mindset and that is Black TV for the way 2520 want to see us. Yes, he employs us, but so does crack dealers and pimps. So I am to assume as long as we get paid what we are selling is ok,
My post disappeared! waaa waaa… I gave lots of examples too!
So this is not as well written because I can’t remember everything I wrote, but….
“What is missing from his body of work is that section of us who are normal, professional, educated and drama free.”
Wrong. There are lots of characters in his movies who are professionals and educated. No one’s life is drama free. If you were you’d be dead or incredibly boring!
“Tyler is another version of the BET, TVOne mindset and that is Black TV for the way 2520 want to see us.”
Wrong. The ‘average’ 2520 doesn’t watch TPerry’s movies and probably doesn’t even know who TPerry is! It’s not what 2520′s want to see and the ‘average’ 2520 won’t watch an all black cast.
Then I said something to the fact that some black folks seem to perceive that being white is the end all, be all. Life is life. We all have challenges, hopes, dreams, aspirations, etc., regardless of our ethnicity. What most black folks do seem to have that a LOT of white folks don’t is the ability to make fun of themselves and enjoy life. The uppity white folks are boring and so one dimensional.
Actually White people love them some Tyler Perry. They have been showing up in the theaters to watch and tuning in to the tv shows and replying on his website. What is weird is when they say they can relate to the storyline….
I imagine Dr Phil & Bill Clinton & Hillary watching his movies & shows but not that.
i enjoy most of his movies too. The TV shows- I just can’t. I think the biggest problem is he tried to turn great singers into actors and it isn’t really working for TV. I understand why some people don’t like what he does, but I agree there probably is more familiarity with some of his characters for those from the south.
I can’t believe this crowd is such TPerry haters! Like a friend of my daughter said, “Haters make you famous.” Keep on hatin and TPerry will keep winning. And, I’ll be enjoying every minute of the fun.
Can we please give the term “Hater” and “Hatin” a rest?!? Makes my ears bleed. I prefer calling them “Crickets”. You neva see them but they talk tha loudest, when u walk right by them they SHUT THA F@&% UP! And when you finally find them, you step on em like the bug they are!! I say we start a petition for this movement….
LOL.. Tx10inch… dude this room is looking like an attack of Mormon Crickets on TPerry. Ever seen a swarm of Mormon Crickets?
Mormon Crickets??? lol. I would say no. Please describe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajBLkApnjrE
Do they wear special Mormon underwear for crickets and go to secret Mormon church rituals? Does their founder believe in ancient alien cricket records that fell from outer space? Is there a sect of Mormon crickets that fell out with the cricket LDS who practice marriages of multiple cricketdom?
What the hades are Mormon crickets?
“It’s like the movie “Oh brother where art thou?” with George Clooney. Not a lot of people got that movie UNLESS you were from the south and then it was the funniest sh*t you ever saw!”
Incorrect. Oh Brother Where Art Thou was colorful, funny, haunting, and had a dark edge. Tyler Perry’s crap is a simple-minded drool-fest. And for the record my family is from the deep South.
I CARE.
Not because I’m a fan of his work, I’m not, but I’m a fan of how he does business. He has become one of the most powerful businessmen in the world and he did it without trying to be inclusive of suburban America. I can’t say the same about Sean Combs, Oprah, Russell Simmons and even Jay-Z. It’s the goal of most black entrepreneurs to be able to “cross-over” because the assumption is that that’s where the money is. If nothing else, Tyler should serve as a reminder that the black dollar has major power and it deserves respect.
It’s a big mistake to dismiss him, especially when we pontificate about buying black, building black wealth, hiring black people, empowering the community etc. He has found his audience doing what he does best even if it is viewed as the worst by intellectuals.
I can agree.
@softandpink
“He has become one of the most powerful businessmen in the world and he did it without trying to be inclusive of suburban America. I can’t say the same about Sean Combs, Oprah, Russell Simmons and even Jay-Z. It’s the goal of most black entrepreneurs to be able to “cross-over” because the assumption is that that’s where the money is.”
Cosign. I’m not a fan of his either. But he has made money without crossing over. This should be applauded.
i ultimately think thats why he will win. he’s stayed loyal to his fanbase without any regard for anybody else. he knows who his bread and butter is and makes movies and entertainment specifically for them.
Yes, to everything you said. : )
Well Tyler is the only Black anything that you will see being sold in it’s orginal packaging and with a proper release date in the UK. Apart from those damm Wyans brothers, I’ve yet to see another all black ensemble take center stage. A work mate who knows I love my mags, brought me the latest edition of Ebony today. I’ll be reading this weekend and hopefully changing my views on the man (maybe just maybe) .
Being that I live in the UK we only get the rubbish of BET anyway ( and I mean the rubbish, you guys have no idea). So I’ll be seeing his channel through the internet like everything else.
By the way I routing for “Reed between the lines” to be great, it might save BET in ratings and credability, we can only pray.
Agreed.
This network will be profitable since Tyler Perry will do 90% of the work. The writing, directing AND acting. The investors will be winning
lol word, its easy to make $ when you only have to cut 2 paychecks, and one is yours…
I’m torn….on the one hand I think his sitcoms and a lot of his plays are foolish, lowest common denominator stuff. On the other hand I like several of his movies (Daddy’s Little Girls, parts of WDIGM I & II, For Colored Girls [until the butchered ending]). I admire the fact that he employs black people and gives us something to watch with black people in it, but I wish he would set his mind higher — even though what he’s doing now is economically rational. I’ll just keep watching what I like, tuning out what I don’t and knowing that, in this case, the markets are working.
Speaking of markets, maybe I’m confused about this, but I have no idea why Oprah or TP want a cable channel. To be responsible for fresh programming 24 hrs/day seems tiresome…but TP should bring back a newer, more revelant version of BET News!
The sad thing is that Tyler, Oprah, and Bill Cosby can’t work together and do one enity that will fix all this confusion. Somewhere they forgot the saying “united we stand divided we fall”
+1
+ 2,3,4,5, and all the other’s since I’m on an international level
No it is not. Bill would go on his rants. Oprah would have to deal with more drug and rub accusations towards the Cos and Oprah’s terrible skills at choosing and creating network programming would wear Tyler’s nerves so badly.
I don’t care that much, I just feel its a good look to have one more black owned TV channel out there. It can’t hurt. I do occasionally pick up bootleg tyler perry stuff just for the giggles of the coonery going on. I also get it in bootleg so I don’t contribute to the evil empire. On Oprah and the OWN network, her fan base can only take 1 hour of her sentimental mish mash, the rest of the day they watching martha stewart, desperate housewives or some other stuff. So Oprah, the OWN network was a poor idea.
cosign all of dat
My cable box is a big place so whether he gets a network or not doesn’t matter to me. TylerTV will join the list of Bravo, TLC, E, Fox News, MSNBC, and TruTV as channels I just don’t watch. (Unless he can promise me a show with Denise Boutte just doing stuff. I’d watch that.) Good for him for doing his thing but I’m probably not going watch.
*walks to the sidelines and take seat next to TAC.*
I can watch a show with Denise Boutte and Logan Browning watch paint dry. All day….everyday. lol.
I don’t know Logan Browning. *runs to Google*
She’s the 22yr old that plays Denise Boutte and Lamman Rucker’s niece on the show. http://c0013659.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_4c414dd
Opps. I meant this link: http://lockerz.com/s/79959261
Just to add a notch to your love for Denise Boutte. She and I used to work at The Gap together back in the day and she was the NICEST person you would ever want to meet; and even more attractive in person. : )
Can Morgan Freeman get HIS own channel though?! I’m sayin’. I will sit and watch two hour blocks of his Through the Wormhole program on the Science Channel. The way he narrates makes me think I know what these scientist, molecular engineer smart pants people are talking about beyond anything but a purely spectator level. Honestly, I would listen to Morgan Freeman narrate a bowel movement. East side High East side High all day, erry day.
“I would listen to Morgan Freeman narrate a bowel movement.”
He’s probably done it. He’s been in everything! LOL
“I would listen to Morgan Freeman narrate a bowel movement.”
This literally made me chuckle for a minute.
Can Morgan Freeman get HIS own channel though?!
Sure! why not? He could start his own reality series called “Old man sicko” starring he and his new grand daughter wife!! Mmmm mmm, now that’s good tv!
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/off-the-markley/2009/07/hey-morgan-freeman-gross.html
WHAAAAATTT!!! What was that?
lmao!
By thy side we’ll stand
And always praise thy name
The honor yeah of old eastside high
Calls forth our loyalty…..
Morgan Freeman can narrate the physics of paint drying and make it fascinating.
so one day i saw they were doing a “Wormhole” marathon and didn’t even really realize what it was, i just saw Morgan Freeman and clicked and now he’s basically a genius to me. i want them to do a show on how he’s managed to be 65 for 28 years (as long as i’ve been alive). THAT’S some super science isht.
Outside of David Simon and Ed Burns shows (The Corner, The Wire, Treme), Black Dynamite (upcoming anitmated series) or the NFL, I don’t watch shows with majority black characters. Good for Tyler Perry that he has cultivated a majority black audiences. Unfortunately, I have standards and I’m not going to cultivate sh!t just because it features, stars, is owned, etc. by a majority of blacks.
I will always put my best foot forward to give any type of black owned/created endeavor a chance, but I’m darn sure not obligated to support anything and everything regardless of quality just because you’re black.
I had to do a double take on the avi. Nice
Thank you.
I agree, but if I manage to see a black lead ( Luther/24 Dennis Haysbert) then I will be watching…and if it’s crap I will forget it ever happened.
A Tyler Perry network in a “big picture” sense might be a win.
A network owned by a Black person pushing out programming that features Black men and women, gainfully employs Black folks (I hope) and generates ideas (good, bad or otherwise) about a particular set of Black interests / experiences (as I recognize that TP’s stuff doesn’t reflect everything that we are about; no one network could effectively do that) can be a good thing. Even if it only serves as a first job for the next relevant Black filmaker, producer, etc…
Now, this doesn’t mean that I’ll be watching said network. But in all fairness, I like a lot of you, don’t watch a lot of tv. If it isn’t Arsenal / Philadelphia Union / Barcalona related, my idiot box is usually turned off. Hell, I don’t even watch most, so-called “Black” movies / gospel plays, etc which earns me a side-eye from some of my friends but who cares. I’ve been doing me for thirty-eight years now and have gotten pretty good at it.
All this to say that if TP has the means to try his hand at owning a TV network, he should pursue it. Nothing ventured-nothing gained. See it / be it and all that other trite stuff….
SN: It’s a great time to be a Philly sports fan! (Be jealous!)
oddly enough based on many of the things i write…i do want him to win. and tahts mostly cuz he always finds a way to do it. he’s smart enough to figure out how to make sh*t work for him and to make entertainment for his audiences. my parents love him. hell i own most of his movies.
im a sheep.
His movies have kept me thoroughly entertained at the foolishness. It is a bad mood killer. Have a sh*tty day? Watch a Tyler Perry production. Lmbo
I’m not a huge Tyler Perry fan, but I have to admit that I am a bit intrigued. If he’s going to have his own network, he will be forced to develop a variety of new shows…hopefully ones that have substance. I couldn’t imagine him having a network that ran Meet the Brown-ish type shows ALL DAY.
Who knows? Perhaps Monique will make her new home there…
Sure Tyler TV is a tacky idea if you already don’t like Tylers’ programming & content. But here are a few show ideas, starting with Reality TV combined with made for TV movies.
The Real Housewives Of The Civil Rights Movement
with Kimberly Elise as Myrlie Evers (a.k.a. Crybaby)
Loretta Divine as Sister Betty Shabazz
& Lisa Raye as Coretta Scott King
Asst. Directed by Tracey Edmonds Murphy etc. etc. etc. (a.k.a Umbiblical Cord Face)
The Real Housewives of The Underground RailRoad
starring Fantasia Borino as Harriet Tubman
Lauren Hill as Kizzy
Whoppi Goldberg as Whoppi Goldberg
Tyler Perry as Madea
Directed by Joy Behar
The Real Housewives Of House Slaves
DEAD@ “Whoppi Goldberg as Whoppi Goldberg”
The slaves were not housewives though, well if you count the ones who worked in the big house and that can be argued.
So I ask you VSBNinjas, what do you think about Tyler Perry’s potential new television network?
I have no problem with it- if he makes some shows that are actually funny. Tyler Perry is funny. Meet the Browns and House of Payne are not. Putting it on more times of day will not change that. Can we get some Martin reruns??
Do you care at all?
Yes.
I’m tired of watching white people all the time.We need more diversity on TV. I think this will be a creative platform for some producers to put some new stuff out there. I wouldn’t mind watching some crazy stuff as long as it’s new and different.And for sh*ts and giggles…what do you think would be a new TV show that would run on TylerTV and TylerTV only?
1. Very Smart Brothas – the sitcom
2. Backyard Brides (black version of My Big Redneck Wedding; don’t his movies almost always have a wedding in them?)
3. Celebrity Cribs- Pastor’s edition
4. The Real Bebe’s Kids of Atlanta (and of course spin-offs in Miami, New York, New Jersey, etc.)
5. Judge Mathis Uncut
“3. Celebrity Cribs- Pastor’s edition”
DEAD!
WIM. I sign my name by that entire list. Next to each point. On the right hand side.
How about we let Tyler Perry have a crack at this before we jump the gun and expect him to provide 24hours of c00nvision.
If there can be programmes like Jackass, the Hills, laguna beach & other stupid sh!t that with other takes the pi$$hole out of non ethnics, than we sure as hell can have some Tylet TV!
If it prooves too painful for my evolved brain to handle I’m just going to turn off my TV and pretend it’s still the 90′s, watch reruns.
I’m not waiting for
The real play cousins of the 2nd leage footballer of Wyoming.
The bad girls born again praise and worship
Flavour of loves: Peri peri edition
Or how to photoshop your nekkid floc and bag a basket baller in 10minutes while humping a rainbow because coloured girls have no daddy. Directed by T.Perry Jr.
#Imdone.
“The bad girls born again praise and worship”
Why you do that? LMAO!!
Slapped my forehead and howled to the moon. WIP you have to stop killing me in here…But I would watch with a pause button on tivo,hell I would buy TIVO legally and fit it in my outlook.
Judge Mathis Uncut… I’d watch it.
“2. Backyard Brides (black version of My Big Redneck Wedding; don’t his movies almost always have a wedding in them?)”
I would totally watch this. Kool-aid in the champagne fountain, bologna & kraft singles roll ups as appetizers, and grandmama’s pound cake with a topper.
*I may or may not have been to an actual wedding like this.
lol…that VSB sitcom would be bananas.
however, i aint gonna lie…Celebrity Cribs- Pastor’s Edition?
thats what i’m trynna see right there.
“however, i aint gonna lie…Celebrity Cribs- Pastor’s Edition? thats what i’m trynna see right there”
They may want to keep that under wraps. If black folks see 25,000 square foot mansion with heated floors……Tithes and Offerings will be a wrap. And depending on the kneegrown, if they see so much as a Yorkie Terrier running around, they will be salty. Pastor better rescue a mutt and live in a townhouse.
Yes, it would be controversial = ratings. I’m sure the heated floors would be tied into a sermon somehow.
‘Celebrity Cribs – Pastors edition’
I just snorted onto my computer. I’ll watch this for sure, especially if they open up their fridge to expose the long lost stock of FourLOKO.
LOL! I was just thinking they’d have more drank than rappers. A pastor would have an “energy drink” called Praise Juice. When you mix that with Crunk Juice you get Bro. Franklin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf9p5cpc_08
Forgive me, ya’ll…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCkbyn11txQ&feature=related
When Tyler gets his own channel, does this mean Love Jones will become a series?
bwhahahahahha
I would need to move so I could watch that and buy the dvd and attend the live audience last series take (to attend the wrap party).
* Yes I know many of you HATE with a passion, but this one of my top 5 movies of ALL time*
* I also know some of you have never seen the film or heard the sooundtrack, shame on you, shameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*
Why Oh Why do we HATE on Tyler SO much?! Seriously! We are subjected regularly to crap TV whether on “black” channels—none of which are actually owned by us except TV ONE, and that just barely so—or mainstream channels. Let see, we have the to-scared-to-include black girls “Teen Mom” on MTV. We have the overload of not so good reality shows including “Jersey Shore,” the ENTIRE “Housewives” franchise, and the list goes on. Of scripted series, there’s Tyler’s shows, of course, none of which I watch, and recall the recap from a co-worker who went to a live taping of one and kept longing for the exit but couldn’t escape until it was over. My point is that there are as many good shows as bad ones, and Tyler’s movies, much like Spike’s, are not ALL good, but some are not ALL bad as most of the black intelligensia would have the world believe. I enjoyed “Daddy’s Little Girls” and “For Colored Girls.” I’m more interested in the broader effect him having his own network could yield for the community as a whole. Could being the operative word. This is an opportunity for more black actors and possibly, producers, writers and directors to shine—something we don’t get enough of. And the fact that it’s a black man doing it is impressive. I don’t agree with the whole shucking and jiving thing applied as a whole to Tyler, he is a business man, and like any other—black, white, purple or blue, he provides a service that has proven to be lucrative in its return. How many of us can say that? Are there stereotypes in his work—yes. Are there stereotypes in most creative works—yes (“The Hangover”…all Asian dudes are funny little men with d*cks the size of my c*it). Let’s give the Tyler bashing a rest and focus on how we (as a community) may be able to capitalize on this opp and give Oprah’s fledgeling network some decent competition.
um…i’m sure this network will murder Oprah’s network since her network is already struggling and i can see this dude murdering the game straight out the gate EVEN with using only his own movies and shows to start with.
No it is not. Tyler will follow the same strategy that was created by BET. Cater to the lower of human nature and which the money roll in. TVOne is doing the same thing.
In Living Color
Living Single
Soulfood
The Game
Girlfriends
Are We Where Yet
Single Ladies
These are an example of quality shows that should have been on BET but got their start on a 2520 network
(“The Hangover”…all Asian dudes are funny little men with d*cks the size of my c*it).
Shhhhhh!!!ttttt this my me SCREAM. Laughin so hard, I’m droolin…I’d watch TP with pride. #notashameofwhereIcomefrom
*made me*
My one and only gripe about Tyler Perry is the fact that he compromises creativity and art for money, and while I understand why, it makes ne cringe. Oh yeah, that and the fact that his stage actors don’t know how to act on screen, it’s like watching Roc…far too dramatic. That’s all. On another note, we as the Very Smart Black Community need to learn how to laugh. I’m sorry, but Madea is funny. Yes, most of his characters are stereotypes, but how many of those characters can you find in your family? Exactly. I’m sure a few, even if you don’t “associate with that side anymore.” Just because he’s successful doesn’t mean that he has to put out shows about college educated black people. It would be nice, but he doesn’t have to. How about those who complain the most become producers/directors and create the programming you want to see? I swear, sometimes I just weep for our community because we won’t let one another be great but we will talk down on someone who isn’t living up to their potential and being great. Oh and +116 to the person who wrote about those who will complain all day and night about Tyler Perry programming but won’t miss an episode of that Basketball Wives show or Real Housewives of wherever.
“but how many of those characters can you find in your family? Exactly. I’m sure a few, even if you don’t ‘associate with that side anymore’.”
This made me really LOL.
Oh. I thought that Tyler Perry already owned TBS. There is really nothing on that channel but his shows. So TBS doesn’t stand for Tyler’s Bad Sitcoms?
No really, I thought that channel was his already so *shrugs* to this news – thanks for sharing some knowledge on this beautiful Thursday
I really can’t say I care very much since I won’t be watching. Only problem is my grandmother will definitely be tuned in all. day. long. Which means while I’m visiting I will be forced to “conversate” with her about whatever suits her fancy that has to do with Tyler Perry.
I’m thinking TP will join the bandwagon of reality tv shows about ridiculous drama. Like “Real Housewives of Faith Holy Temple Missionary Baptist Church” (or something like that). Now that I may be tempted to watch.
People protest too damn much. Folks afraid if they laugh, white people will take civil rights back. If you were as far removed from TP characters as you pretend to be, you’d probably think they were hilarious. The temperature of your hate tells on you. Did you find My Big Fat Greek Wedding funny? Oh, you did? I’m too tired for a superfluous I gotta show how much I hate TP so I can keep my bougie ninja card party.
well dayum, tell ‘em how you really feel cougar, lol
but i gotta admit…
i was kinda thinkin this…
kinda…
lmao
Scuse me, tired and cranky.
was that directed at me or people in general? it was one of those odd dis tracks that folks have to wonder who you’re talking about.
you need a new dis track with more direct shots.
thanks – management.
lol
I was at the gym at 5:45am after working 15 hrs and the trainer was showing no mercy. So my diss track is all wild nsh*t. I was aiming at the section of bougie ninja twitterdom that loves nothing more than a TP hate party. No one in particular.
I just had to chuckle at you makin it to the gym at 5:45… motivation… ahem… comes in handy… I’m pretty sure I could be motivated by alllll that too. *exhales*
Lol! Yep, he be motivatin, hard!
lmao… ummm i’m gonna guess that she doesn’t expect that you’ve seen ‘my big fat greek wedding’ (or will admit to it anyway…. without a million caveats) and means this generally… but cougar? i’d personally love it if you elaborated… like in takeover/ether style… rhyming like sagey in yesterday’s comments… IJS
I’m in moderation. Probably cause PanamaLizChamp don’t take kindly to mild profanity that isn’t thinly veiled by random characters. It didn’t rhyme, it wasn’t that funny. Sorry. BTW, you can use dirty language on my blog. IJS
hm…now that was a shot.
good job.
SN: I’ve been to your blog and commented under a different pseudonym… i love it
Girl fan! Yay!!!
Church! I can’t disagree with a word of what you said. For all of TP’s issues, there’s nothing he isn’t doing wrong that a lot of White people aren’t doing. I think I’m too tired to prove how much I need a bougie ninja card as well. Shall we go back to my place for…coffee?
Coffee? Yes, please.
Not a problem.
I love my coffee pot. It dispenses like something in a coffee shop or something. ::D
100% cosign. This definitely is truth.com (Tamar….and if you know what I’m talking about because you watched the show and you’re slamming TP’s potential network, you may want to reconsider your stance on “quality programming.”)
WC… Co-Sign! And, thank you. I knew there was someone in here gonna have to say it besides me. Thank you for keeping it 100!
On one hand, we want to have more control and more of a say in Hollywood. On the other hand, we want the blacks that finally get the control and say to not act a fool once they get there. Well guess what sells, black craptastic movies (Perry), shows (Real Housewives of Atlanta), and music (this would take too long to list).
At the end of the day, everything in Hollywood is a stereotype and caters to their audience. We just take this more to heart since we are a smaller group of people (statistically speaking) that this is directed at, and Perry is so popular that the mainstream thinks this is what we ARE and what we WANT to watch.
As with anything that goes on the market, if you don’t like it don’t buy it. If enough people don’t buy it, the manufacturer will stop making it.
Agreed… TP and his pending network are a necessary evil. Despite much of the c(art)oonery in his work, all of us reading folk have enjoyed at least one of his movies.
That said, I think he should do a children’s show starring Madea with Christian undertones of course… Call it Madea & Friends. Think Barney meets vacation bible school. Oooh and (Mr.?) Brown could be Madea’s Baby Bop/sidekick doing splits and catching the Holy Ghost and what not. Chuch!
Lol, that would be super hilarious.
I understand why people are in defense of Tyler Perry. I understand the appeal of it. It’s like Family Guy to me though. Sure that one joke is funny the first what 10 times? You can’t do anything new though. I have to listen and watch the same exact thing 100s of times? Madae’s crazy, you love Jesus, lots of black people are illiterate, some are bougie. snore snore snore.
The worst part of it is, there are actually GOOD black owned and made products that get overlooked because they only want to worship at the house that Tyler Perry built. I don’t know why people seem toforget that we didn’t already have good-great funny black sitcoms before Tyler Perry came along.
“You can’t do anything new though.”
ionknow… i think we kinda skippin over some of the good… For Colored Girls was good (and it’s super odd that we’ve pretty much ignored it this whole thread)… and yeah, it was probably because it aint his in the first place… but to say he hasn’t branched out… that’s not entirely correct… I mean when you produce PUSH (even with the arguments about whether we needed to see those characters on the big screen and all that convo that happened afterwards) it’s kinda nice to be able to see a black book made into movie sometimes… I mean I love doing the read the book/see the movie thing… and I wish I could see more of my favorites on the screen instead of being stuck in White Oleander world… ya know?
oh, and the rest of you comment? *nods in agreement*
Yeah, but what sells? It’s not brilliant, but its good enough. I don’t demand all the time brilliant from white shows and movies to be a fan. I know you do, Malik, but we can’t all be brilliant. Most of us will settle for a cheap belly laugh. And checks get written for what most of us want.
I mean I’ll be perfectly happy with another Everybody Hates Chris. Best work Chris Rock has done in a decade.
+1… good show…
Loved that show! Even got my parents down pat!
I could give a rodents backside about a Tyler Perry network. More power to him really. What I get tired of hearing is the lame arse excuse people keep giving for his sub-par movies and shows- “At least he’s employing African American actors.” Save it!
What if I opened Sweet James’s 24 Hour Liquor and Fried Chicken Emporium in the middle of Any Hood, USA and I created 50 jobs for African Americans? Is that a good thing? I would say no.
This is basically what “Hollywood Shuffle” was all about!
“What if I opened Sweet James’s 24 Hour Liquor and Fried Chicken Emporium in the middle of Any Hood?….This is basically what “Hollywood Shuffle” was all about!”
As long as you don’t sell Winky Dinky Heaux Cake : )
…and please give him back his curl activator.
Ok ..I just peeee’d a lil bit. Y’all need to stop it I say!
People need to get over it, or do something better themselves.
I don’t think TP is detrimental to the black experience or image, although I do not watch his sitcoms but then I don’t do sitcoms or reg tv too much period.
“People need to get over it, or do something better themselves”
(Puts an e-$20 in the collection plate for the gospel)
I don’t really have anything to say about this, but I wanted to say something because I’ve been Lurky McLurk for a couple months now. So this is me saying something. Peace in the East yall.
“I’ve been Lurky McLurk for a couple months now”
That’s not working for us sistaPOEt! : )
Today’s lesson learned: Meet the Browns and House of Payne are NOT the same show.
Well I have to say that I will be keeping my ears open for details on this. The way I see it another black owned network could mean more opportunity for black writers, producers, and directors. Being a writer myself, I welcome any opportunity to get my ideas out there and heard by an audience of my peers.
I’m sure TP has enough sense to know that his station can’t be Madea all the time. He will be looking for a range of different show ideas and that has me excited. I have a show idea and I doubt FX, TNT, and the likes will be interested. TP might actually give it a shot.
I applaud TP for all he has done. I am not a bible toting TP fan but I do appreciate some of his work. JMO
I saw the rants on twitter about Tyler Perry getting his own channel. Ironically it came on the same day I heard that Steve Harvey called Tavis Smiley an Uncle Tom and criticized him and Cornel Wests poverty tour. While Tyler Perry isn’t my cup of tea he has a HUGE following amongst working class and poor Black folks. If this channel comes into fruition they will support it. I’m not a fan of Steve Harvey or Tyler Perry but I notice that most of the people that knock these two are the “college-grad, white-collar professional, hip-hop head, neo-soul” Black folks. The working class and poor Black folks don’t have all the beef with these two that the bougie negroes have.
I can’t see TP having 24/7 programming like Madea, Meet the Browns, etc. He will need some diversity. Maybe this is now the opportunity to get more diverse programming for Black folks? This could be an opportunity to fill in the gap b/w BET and TVOne. While TVOne is making a valiant effort I think TP can also add to this if there is a profitable market for programming for bougie negroes.
I’m interested to see how Bounce TV does this fall.
Why did Harvey call them “Uncle Toms”?
@Wu Young
http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff2/steve-harvey-cornel-west-tavis-smiley/
Wow! I don’t agree with every thing the soul patrol does but the uncle tom claims are a bit much. Anything for ratings I guess.
@Wu Young
I don”t agree with everything those 2 do either. That being said there are Black people that excuse Obama of everything as if he is not the president. If you are critical of him then you are a sellout.
In the defense of bougie ninjas throughout America, this debate goes on among 2520s as well. While we either not see it or generally side with the bougie 2520s when it does happen (b/c the lower class Whites tend to gun for us), it does exist. I think the main source of beef with TP and Steve Harvey is the overt religious themes in their work, something that middle-class and up people just don’t do. Religion is becoming a niche for the working class and poor, and fairly or not, anything vaguely religious is going to be tied up in class issues. I’m not saying it’s right, but saying that poor and bougie negroes should think and act alike because of skin color is foolish.
Thats an amazing observation. I never thought about the religion/class element. I think you are onto something.
Religion is becoming a niche for the working class and poor, and fairly or not, anything vaguely religious is going to be tied up in class issues.
The “Opiate of the masses” policy is working for the G.O.P. big time in the fly over states. Sure it’s not always that cut and dry but it has to be considered.
@Wu Young
I can tell you that Steve Harvey, Tyler Perry, and the Black church all go hand in hand. Todd is right. Religion is becoming a niche for the lower classes. I don’t like it but I understand it and partially don’t really blame them for reaching out to them. Especially since the Black middle class have left these folks to fend for themselves.
I understand also. I see why the lower classes do this but it’s sad that folks profit off of their spirituality. Good point on the black middle class (What’s left of it anyway.) leaving the middle class behind too. State and local government are the other culprits in that crime.
I’m not very religious, but I was raised in the church and although I disagree with a lot of aspects, I respect religion. I truly don’t understand what I see as hatred of church, religion and God by people who call themselves educated tolerant people. If people want to believe in God and go to church, I can’t see how other people are so bothered. To the point of deriding and insulting people who never harmed them or meant them any harm. I truly don’t get it.
I read a book about this earlier this year. the author described how he felt the GOP has effectively integrated a big business agenda with the conservative religious agenda.
@Todd
“I’m not saying it’s right, but saying that poor and bougie negroes should think and act alike because of skin color is foolish.”
Did I imply this? If so that wasn’t the intent of my comment. I think that bougie negroes ride on TP unnecessarily hard. I’m guilty of doing it. What I’m saying is that there is a market in catering to poor and working class Black folks and people from Master P to Tyler Perry to Steve Harvey have ate off of them. If TP gets this channel maybe it’s a chance for bougie negroes to get entertainment catered to them? I still have issues with middle class Black people standing back, pointing their finger, and talking ish about poor and working class Black folks.
I didn’t mean to call you out specifically. I meant bougine negroes in general. I definitely agree that just standing back and pointing a finger isn’t helping anyone in the hood. We have to reach in. After all, we know we got a cousin or two still stuck in there. Why not help them up and out while we visit?
I’d like to add an amendment. The FERVENTLY religious is far more prevelant in those in the lower class. The United States is still by far a nation that believes Jesus Christ is their savior. They just started going to church less and less.
“Tyler Perry is the living embodiment of the word “conversate”. ”
I stopped reading there. #dead Did I mention that I hate the word conversate.
Now what the hell is the real point on this post, let.me.keep.reading.
Tyler Perry is and idiot and the people that support him are idiot enablers or idiots themselves.
Some idiots wil defend Tyler Perry until the bitter end, mainly because they can’t separate the man form the mans work. They see his rags to riches story and they are proud of his accomplishments while they ignore the fact that the work he produces is garbage.
His fan base is filled with closeted church queens, welfare abusers, thug hunters, non-readers, white folk that like to laugh at ignorant black people and fat black women who want a good man but don’t feel that they have to be good women. Unfortunately for us and fortunately for Tyler numbers are on the rise in the aforementioned groups. So the illness lives on.
Beware the power of ignorance gathered in large numbers…
*is an idiot
Ipad auto correct….. booooooo
Well then… not sure it can be more simply put than that.
and pray tell exactly how do you know WHO his fanbase is? ASSume and Generalize much????
I know quite a few hetero readers, and college educated folk that happen to enjoy his work for what it is *shrug*.
No one has to assume, you can see them at his films and plays and defending him o blogs. Reread my statement again,where did I say anything about college educated folk, and heterosexual people not enjoying his work.
You are obviously a fan of his work. lol
I am not a fan or foe tee he …you said closeted church queens did you not, and made assertions that only the ignorant, g*y, or racist enjoy his work which is a ridiculous statement.
It is ridiculous, and thats why i did say that, reading is fundamental.
Read what you see, not what you want to see.
* that’s why i did NOT say that, reading is fundamental.
Read what you see, not what you want to see.
mhhhmm funny I am not the only one who saw that tho, right
*cyber grit and eye roll combo while exiting*
I am indifferent about TP and what he does…I literally just dont care. BUT reading your comment and how venomous your words are…all I can think is that you really need to fix yourself. Something is inherently wrong with you and all this hatred for one person and his fans cannot be healthy and as such I think you need to seek help. You can’t be serious as to know ALL his fans and what they are or claim to be. In general the negativity radiating off of your comment is just toxic and although you may give two sh*ts about what I say or think, it needed to be said.
Please don’t respond back because I really don’t care to go back and forth.
If you didnt care for a response, then you shouldnt have bothered responding. I never said ” ALL ” of anything. Read what you see, not what you want to see.
Yes I do have a strong dislike for the promotion of ignorance. Sorry that it bothers you.
You dont have to respond back either, because based on your first statement, its clear that you really don’t have much to say.
+1
*clears throat* Yale Gent? I assume that’s the first thing you want people to know. Yale. And Gent. As in Gentry? Old or new? It’s necessary to know how many generations you are removed from the people you are ranting at. So hard. So I may address you in the manner to which you are accustomed. People don’t stomp reaches unless they have them in their homes.
Not sure what you are attempting to say, however I would be more than happy to engage in ADULT conversation with you.
Lets be clear. You don’t have defend Tyler Perry. I have very strong reasons for disliking his work and the ideas which are promoted in his work.
I believe in the beauty and strength of our people, with that said I refuse to excuse people for promoting ignorance and religious manipulation as a representation of our people.
This isn’t about me. So no need to insult me or my family. This is about black people as a group standing up for better images and ideas of ourselves in the media.
Tyler’s work is garbage, sorry.
but see you started off with some vile names for people who happen to enjoy watching. Now you want to switch to civil discourse. While insinuating others are not having an adult discussion. Which is the irony behind your screen name. Get it?
“I believe in the beauty and strength of our people, with that said I refuse to excuse people for promoting ignorance and religious manipulation as a representation of our people. ”
Now I criticize Tyler for a gang of things (his work being simplistic and overdramatic for one… but there is even room for that in Hollywood all around), but his “representation” ain’t one of ‘em. You don’t think his work represents a nice chunk of Black folks? He is, after all, pulling from his own experiences. And there ARE Black families similar to the ones he portrays in his movies. I just think folks are ashamed to admit it. The problem is not that he is representing a portion of Blackness, it’s the people who make the sweeping generalizations that ALL Black folks are like that.
“And there ARE Black families similar to the ones he portrays in his movies. I just think folks are ashamed to admit it. The problem is not that he is representing a portion of Blackness, it’s the people who make the sweeping generalizations that ALL Black folks are like that.”
Pretty much.
For every one Bill Cosby type show there are eight Tyler Perry type shows. Is the the image we want to represent? Now the faces are no longer painted on.
But the truly sad part is that every show we have HAS to represent all of us. Does a sitcom like “Friends” have the burden of representing ALL white folks? Naw, but the Cosby Show had that burden. It was a sitcom that anyone could relate to, hence its mainstream success. But even still, because it was an all Black cast, it wasn’t just a sitcom, it was one that represented Black folks. It’s just an interesting aspect all around, the responsibility we (as individuals) have to carry on our shoulders…
Interesting indeed, we are all somehow and somewhat reluctant ambassadors,although sometimes I don’t mind if I can illuminate the whole show LOL.
“And there ARE Black families similar to the ones he portrays in his movies. I just think folks are ashamed to admit it.”
I totally agree with this statement. Many of us (whether we say so or not) are very ashamed of many of the “types” of Black people that are portrayed in the media. There is an underrepresentation of the very type of people that read this blog daily and an overabundance of quite the opposite.
I miss shows like The Cosby show. Can someone come up with a show like that nowadays and still make money? It seems to be history repeating itself in a 21st century sort of way. Black face was the one of only ways Black people were portrayed in media back in the day, and now comedic, over-the-top emphasis on the troubles of our race is the present. Not to mention the “Black man in drag” right to passage the media has deemed as almost a prerequisite of success these days.
Wow. Idiot/ idiotic is pretty strong. I’ve been thinking more along the lines of “simple.” When I found myself in a situation watching Diary of a Mad Black Woman, and seeing some relatives engrossed in the action, I remember thinking to myself, “Did I die and go to simpleton hell?”
My parents will watch the channel. Then again my mom watches Bonanza and Gunsmoke reruns faithfully.
I just got around to watching For Colored Girls. (I got it at the library for $1/week.) My mother and I kept looking at the clock saying, “How much longer is it?”
Another sign of the apocolypse.
My Dad LOVES Gunsmoke reruns LOL that was they sh*t when they were lil and they enjoy it now maybe even moreso, because IMO it takes em back to that time of childhood innocence and wonderment, and it’s the same for us and so on and so on, but with diff shows/music/cartoons of course.
Man…my Dad too.
Everytime I visit it’s Gunsmoke reruns…that and Bizarre foods.
My parents watch Gunsmoke daily too. If I’m home I”ll most likely watch it until Jeopardy! comes on.
#Imsecretlyanoldman
I hope that this is a successful venture for Tyler Perry! I respect both his work and his business acumen. It is also nice to have an outlet for faith-based entertainment.
initially my first thought was “well what is TBS going to show besides The Office” (which i love). i don’t hate TP but i don’t like him either. i liked The House That Preys and Why Did I Get Married but then the piss poor direction of Why Did I Get Married Too and the adaptation of For Colored Girls made me wonder if TP hated black women.
i don’t know why ANY channel runs 24 hours (remember when tv used to go off? pledge of allegiance and then colored screen?) but TP could probably pull it off with a Gospel Sunday and a cooking show with the Neelys and Madea.
but for real can I get a Judge Mathis Uncut. on any channel?
The Neelys would be perfect on Tyler TV, LOL!
i thought that same thing.
If the Neelys ended up on Tyler TV, I might take back some of the stuff I’ve said about him.
And an episode where Tyler Perry comes to eat with the Neeleys would be fun to watch!
VH1 is doing their thing but Ima’ hate on Tyler Perry? No. If they can exist, so can he. Do it! Programming does not have to be my cup of tea for it to exist.
Didn’t get to read above but I’m sure everyone’s comments are as wildly entertaining as this post was, and as I believe TP (which is also my acronym for toilet paper) -TV will be. YAAAYYYYY!
For Panama’s Q&A: “So I ask you VSBNinjas, what do you think about Tyler Perry’s potential new television network?”
I can’t wait. It hurts so good.
“Do you care at all?” I care about the psychotic republican strangle hold on our nation. I care about whether I can successfully lock myself in my basement and comfortably watch TP-TV and drink martinis when riots break out in Watts in 2013.
“And for sh*ts and giggles…what do you think would be a new TV show that would run on TylerTV and TylerTV only?”
Lord help me… Can’t it just be an hour long extension of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJf4dmRKMwU <– <3<3<3
I think the number one most cheek-aching, tummy-working, side-splitting, soil-yourself guffawing show would be a relationship advice show. Just picture TP in all his cardigan glory, with probably 90 oiled up, glistening he-men in (or out) of tank tops attempting to seriously address the burning questions of caftan-wearing, bitter and post-Jesus sweet baby-mamas, like:
"I'se po. But I love Jesus. And I know how to treat a woman. All I want is to love you. Why cain't I find a good Christian woman?"
Holy goodness.
I
CAN
NOT
WAIT.
YES!!!!
Correction…”a good Christian womEn.” Your wellcum.
Here’s a list of 5 reasons why the author won’t go see The Help. Check out #5:
http://bitchmagazine.org/post/five-reasons-to-not-see-the-help-a-round-up-of-responses
I am not a fan of Tyler Perry and I do care. . . but, I care because this is my area of study/interest.
I just wanted to address a couple of things that were mentioned already:
TP should get a pass because he employs lots of Black folks.
Well, this is true, BUT, also TP underpays those Black folks consistently and doesn’t allow them to be in unions (see the WGA strike). This is a tactic used by a number of Black entertainment moguls (I am giving you a leg up, so you should be happy that I am giving you anything) (see Bob Johnson/BET).
Why do all of the Black shows have to be high quality? All white shows don’t.
Nope, white shows don’t, But, because there are just a few Black shows, they control the market. And, the reason that this is a problem for Black-led shows is that now that TP is the “hot” product for negroes and negresses, those who pitch shows for that audience is asked “can you make _______ more TP’ish?”. Is that fair? Nope. . but, that is the way this market works. That is why you find vitriol from about TP from a lot of folks in and around the biz.
All in all, I don’t love TP’s stuff, and I will suck my teeth at most of his projects, I am fascinated to see what he can do to divide the already divided Black audience. One of the scenarios I saw that would be the most fascinating would be if he took over GMC (the Gospel Music Channel). Because, that would already hit a majority of his target audience and he wouldn’t be responsible for 24 hrs of programming (keep a lot of their music video programming).
I am also interested in seeing how loyal he will remain to his religious audience in terms of programming. Will he keep it clean? Or, will he go for a mixed audience. He already has a second film division that makes/funds “non Tyler Perry type” films (like Precious).
Finally my 1st post– Hello to all
If Tyler Perry gets his own network, I really hope he works w/ ppl who participate in the Black independent film festival. I’ve never been (would like to attend in the future). There’s a lot of good talent that is undiscovered. My friend & I had this idea back in high school. He loves writing screenplays & wants to be a film director. I’m a decent writer (poetry, spoken work, short stories).
And just curious, when will VSB have a new podcast? I loved listening to those.
Love, Peace & Soooooooul
I openly hate Tyler Perry for two reasons.
1. He passes himself off as a legitimate producer of legitimate theater and films.
2. People high on the hypocritical, childish, and narrow-minded “ethical lessons” presented in his plays and films feel validated by his bull-ish (specifically many of my family members and random internet ding-dongs).
3. One of his favorite characters is the poor wittle successful black woman who has strayed from Jebus almighty and whose romance woes are magically healed by the janitor in shining armor. This serves as idiot-fuel for those folks described in point #2.
If Tyler Perry was just a comedian and if his stuff was intentionally satirical, then he’d be okay with me.
What might I expect to see on TP-TV?
Your Degrees Won’t Keep You Warm at Night – a self help series for silly black women who tried to seek comfort in education and success instead of a God-fearing black man. Sorry Champ and Panama, but the title is such a good fit
Madea’s Holy Justice Court – exclusively featuring evil rich educated black men being jerks to their poor naive over-edumacated ex-wives
One good thing is that there’s a good chance the shows won’t be homophobic
Since there seems to be such a generous amount of criticism of TP “haters,” I’d like to offer an evaluation of TP lovers. TP fans/ defenders seem to voice support for what they *wish* TP to be more so than for what he actually IS or the actual quality of his work. A lot of the arguments on his behalf are often laced with disclaimers. “Well look at what the yt folks are doin” or “at least he isn’t showing violence and degrading porn.” And the “you all are hating on his success” straw man has been erected o many times you’d think it was Lazarus himself, or that turd that just won’t flush.
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I’m not a Tyler Perry fan, but I’m kinda tired of the Tyler Perry critiques amongst Black professionals. Not to say its not always warranted…….its just played. Its the new litmus test to gauge your intellectual prowess, amongst a lot of black folk. Tyler stays in his lane. He makes movies for our Grandma’s and Auntie’s who’ve never missed a pastor’s anniversary. Not the kids who grew up off of Love Jones, and dislike Souljah Boy. Lets find a new litmus test for black intellectualls……lets call it critical thinking. Does it not bother anyone more that Blacks only have one leading film producer in Hollywood ? It bothers me more than Tyler Perry is the only negro we can critique, than it does critiquing a TP film itself
testingThis domain name should be changed ASAP. Quite the opposite of anything intellectual, its like 1 big oxymoron. Blacks hating on more successful blacks??? Is there anyone who isnt bitter on this site?
P.s if you have to substitute n***a with another word it only proves that youre as accustomed to the word as it is to you. Just a thought.
I have to say that I do not see the big deal with tyler perry. I have tried to watch his shows and fiond them to be both silly and disgusting. By disgusting i am referring to the on with the morbidly obese black couple and thier dysfunctional children. I find it disgusting to look at anyone that overweight and how anyone like that could become famous looking like that is beyond me. I have seen perry in a couple of movies too. Horrible actor.