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Twitter And The 2016 Presidential Debate: A Match Made In Hell

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There are a few instances in my life where I was keenly aware that I was making the wrong decision; when I bought a ticket to see Batman vs Superman, when I decided to drink two cups of a mysterious alcoholic beverage named ‘Blue Muthafuckas’, when I said “I do”…..

Every time I can recall swallowing a lump in my throat, ignoring the knots developing in the pit of my stomach, and drowning out the voices crying “you don’t have to do this” echoing in my brain.

I experienced these same feelings when I decided to watch the last painful installment of the 2016 presidential debate with Twitter. Maybe I’m a masochist, maybe I just decided to throw caution to the wind because I was avoiding finishing my laundry by any means necessary. Maybe both. Nonetheless I willingly subjected myself to what I can only assume is the last segment of one of the least substantive presidential debates of modern times. Now I can admit, I might be a little short sighted here. This is only the third presidential election I’ve been able to partake in and I don’t remember any of the Gore vs Bush debates, and even the Obama vs McCain/Obama vs Romney debates are kind of a blur at this point.

However, I don’t recall being this amazed at the sheer lack of substantive talking points, sound bytes, and commentary surrounding a presidential debate as I’ve been this year.

Obviously there might be a bigly tangerine reason for that. Donald Trump is a uniquely inept, ignorant, inarticulate and unqualified presidential candidate. Not that he’s alone in regards to his ignorance, Reagan is said to have been the most unprepared presidential candidate to ever enter the White House. Peggy Noonan (God forgive me for quoting Peggy Noonan) once called his mind a “barren terrain.” When recalling conversations he’d have with Reagan about the MX missile, Indiana congressman Lee Hamilton reported “Reagan’s only contribution throughout the entire hour and a half was to interrupt somewhere at midpoint to tell us he’d watched a movie the night before, and he gave us the plot from War Games.” The president “cut ribbons and made speeches. He did these things beautifully.” So while Trump’s wanton ignorance about all the issues you’d think a president should have a good grasp on is appalling, it is by no means a political anomaly. Despite the apocalyptic rhetoric you might be bombarded with by folks hell bent on convincing everyone to participate in this election, Trump is not alone in his dangerous stupidity touching the hem of the position that is commander-in-chief.

The largest difference between Trump and his other criminally unknowledgable predecessors is that unlike them, he is not a politician. There is no polish, no focus, no political performance acumen to be seen. He is a reality TV star, and thus the presidential debates are no more than a Real Housewives reunion special without the expert antagonism of Andy Cohen, or a third of the entertainment value. The tangerine menace is largely worried about lobbing zingers reminiscent of his famed days in The Apprentice boardroom. Hillary is …doing this bizarre animatron like routine of attempting to be personable, run defense, and returning fire. What we’re left with is an awful off-Broadway rendition of political theater. A joke, one of the worst offerings of presidential platform discussions I’ve ever witnessed.

Just when you think things couldn’t get more nauseating, enter Twitter. Twitter enthusiastically liquefies and filters these bile filled stews called debates through a colander of melanated millennial jargon, and tired pop culture references. Every abysmal Trump quip is met with reaction gifs, and 140 characters of scorn. If you listen closely enough you can hear the sonic boom that is the collective percussion of keyboard pounding from professional and self appointed ‘fact checkers’ committed to rebuffing every untruth that spills from the slit in Donald’s face that forms two arguable lips. Hilary’s reactions are memefied, gif-ed, personalized and looped immediately. Twitter’s most ardent protectors of Black popular culture and AAVE offer her its most popular contributions. By the end of the debate Hillary was ‘slaying, and reading’, her edges were laid, and she was getting in Formation with the Negro populace for a glass of Lemonade while pulling up A Seat At The Table. Her face expertly photoshopped in seminal Black pop culture visuals, all in a bizarre attempt to synthesize her otherwise unrelatable qualities.

Hashtags (usually created as reactions to the new stupid thing Trump said) are hatched and the #ImWithHer acolytes beam over their analytics and soon to be subsequent Buzzfeed and Huffington Post ‘what twitter said’ writeups. Trumpbot accounts assuming the identity of random minorities or armed with obligatory dog, egg, and eagle avis litter the timeline with screeches about Benghazi, Obama, and deleted emails. Pundits unconvincingly try to offer a pragmatic evaluation of the candidate’s performance, humoring the delusion that Donald offered intelligible sentences of which to dissect, or that Hilary offered anything but an arguably competent showing. The sideshow that is Trump is such a orange obfuscation that these debates are failing to confront Hilary with substantive and valid questions, which is unfortunate because it’s extremely likely she will be the next POTUS. Significant subjects are either merely grazed, or wholly ignored, and the conversations surrounding these spectacles have the depth of a thimble. Perhaps I am being naive when I assert that it seems like the quality of political commentary and discussion has dramatically declined. I might sound like a fist waving disgruntled baby boomer when I say I think the compulsion to deliver rapid response witticisms during debates is a huge disservice that is encouraged by Twitter. And its very likely that I’m being extremely cynical when I say that much like he has served the ratings and interests of traditional media, The Donald is just as essential to feeding the non-stop response engine that is Twitter.com and all those who wish to monetize off it’s assembly line of reactions.

If not for the tangerine menace, ‘Nasty Woman, tshirts, and ‘Grab Her By The Brain’ merch would not have materialized. He is the cash cow, not Hillary. It is fascinating to watch the very people that lament about abhorring what they deem the unacceptable behavior of the political anti-christ somehow profiting off his despicableness. But that irony might be emblematic of what this race is, isn’t it? A sadistic joke, a circus of sideshows and neither the performers or the audience display much of any self awareness. A sad, disgraceful spectacle, whose contributions to the annals of political history can only be found in gifs, tweets, meme’s, t-shirts, a shameless exploitative parade of alleged rape and sexual assault victims, and the rise and fall of Ken Bone.

I really thought hell would be more lit. :-(

Danielle Butler

Danielle Butler is a 30-ish yr old LA/Chicago hybrid whose mutant powers include shit talking, procrastinating, and relating any topic to food. Her favorite pastimes include watching Spongebob with her son, yelling at her cat, and lying about working on her book of short stories.

  • Brandon Allen

    Honestly, the whole spectacle is just tired…and I hate everyone’s thirst to make the next gif or joke.

    Cameramen zooming hella hard to make those gifs. Even this “bigly” thing. We all know he’s saying “big league”

    “Big league” isnt in my lexicon but its easy enough to make fun of. But everyone’s gotta force jokes in, even though there’s plenty to be had. This whole thing sucks.

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      Like the morning roast session, it gets old

    • Kas

      I honestly didn’t know he was saying big league.

      • Jennifer

        Same here.

      • Me

        Bigly is still a real word though and fits everywhere he might’ve said big league. It always struck me as weird that folks are basically laughing at their own lack of vocabulary.

        • mr. steal your costco samples

          ending sentences with adverbs is stupidly

          • Me

            Meh. Then that would make everyone who replies to “how are you doing?” with “I’m doing well” stupidly also.

            • mr. steal your costco samples

              I’m doing bigly tbh

              • Me

                Congrats

        • Kas

          Count me as one of the ignorant.

          • Me

            What I couldn’t get is the fact that folks were reacting to the word on devices that they could’ve easily used to quickly google the word before posting reactions.

          • mr. steal your costco samples

            I mean, dude loves malaprops and bungling English almost as much as gold toilets. his usual speech is totally colloquial and informal (believe me) so being like “BUT YO BIGLY IS A WORD” is the typical covering up for his general idiocy.

            “what he had meant was” is often deployed for GOP 2520 bumblers

            • Me

              Wait… laughing at a word that is a word because you’ve never heard the word before is not idiocy, but speaking colloquially and informally is? How does that work? And why would pointing out actual vocabulary words be a cover up for the person using the word that does in fact exist? How is the laughter not the cover up of idiocy?

              • mr. steal your costco samples

                you know “bigly” is a word. i would bet money Trump didn’t before apologists started talking that mess.

                and in any event, he’s saying “big league” so who cares even a little?

                • Me

                  See, that right there is my issue. First, let’s not act like no one cares when the whole punch line has been centered on bigly making him sound stupid, when it actually just illuminates everyone else’s vocabulary limits. Before the bigly/big league terminology came up, what led anyone to think that Trump doesn’t have a decent vocabulary? Bigly isn’t even that big of a word for it to have gotten as much attention as it did. Literally, the argument around bigly is “it may be a real word, but he sounds stupid saying it.” That’s just asinine.

                  • Kas

                    The fact that his campaign was using #bigleague post debate . . .

                    • Tambra

                      You saw his latest tweet that all the poll said he won the last debate. It is nice to live in the Delusionland, sipping from the streams of the River Denial.

                    • Me

                      The point is folks jumped all over him because THEY thought he was saying bigly, which wouldn’t be incorrect even if he was. Folks turned their own lack of vocabulary into campaign fodder. It’s ridiculous.

    • AMEN!! I’m over them BOTH. I’m not watching any more debates.. He could talk about her mama and I would be all set. We get it Trump is the devil but shyt Hillary is the a devil too.

      • Annalise Keating

        So true

      • Kas

        No more debates are scheduled so you are definitely speaking the truth.

        • See how I didn’t know that? Because Idgaf about either one of them.

          • KNeale

            Lmao!!! I have so little anticipation for this damb election. I want no more of it. Can we get to November 9 like right now!! Just brace yourselves for the outrageous uptick in political ads over the next couple of weeks.

          • Scorpiogoddess??

            Yes.

      • Jennifer

        I skipped the last debate (self-care) and instead decided to read NPR’s transcript/fact checker. When you read their words without all of the bluster, you realize just have little substance there is…and that Trump might have a neurological disorder.

        • Tambra

          Might??

          • Jennifer

            He might just be a blustery, mediocre white man who started with a trust fund.

            • Tambra

              With a propensity to be mendacious.

              • Jennifer

                His mendacity was implicit in my description.

            • Question

              Who thinks he can buy anything, including the respect of other people.

        • Annalise Keating

          “and that Trump might have a neurological disorder.”
          LMAO.

        • Epsilonicus

          Debates will never have much substance for several reasons.

          1. American people do not care for substance. We d o not (we as the royal we) care about the nuance and details that actual matter in policy debates. Folks just don’t give a d a m n. Lemme rephrase it. Not enough folks care.

          2. That type of discussion does not fit into a 90 minute format that is suppose to cover a broad swath of issues.

        • Cleojonz

          I turned off the debate 20 mins in and just checked in with NPR’s fact checker. It was a much more sane way to keep track of what’s happening lol.

        • Blueberry01

          …might have? I thought what was understood need not be spoken.

      • Scorpiogoddess??

        Exactly!!!!!! Your last sentence is EVERYTHING.

    • kingpinenut

      i just rewatch Idiocracy ( the real movie ) rather than watch the presidential debates

      Mixin Brawndo recipes erryday

      • Jennifer

        There have been so many moments in this election cycle where I was immediately reminded of Idiocracy. Mike Judge is a prophet.

      • Lego

        What’s sad is I felt more hope for the world at the end of Idiocracy than I believe I will feel at end of this election cycle.

    • pls

      I been stopped giving this chit show my energy months ago. If you “don’t know” who to vote for by now I assume your elevator doesn’t go all the way to the top floor in your head.

      • Jennifer

        Bingo. That town hall full of “undecided voters” was really a town hall of people who wanted to be on TV. Fight me.

        • Annalise Keating

          Does the “I don’t really want to vote for any of these candidates” group count as undecided?

          • Jennifer

            Nope.

            Listening to Dan Carlin’s Common Sense podcast this morning. He talked about the need for a “none of the above” option on our ballots. I won’t hold my breath.

        • A lot of folks tuned in to all the debates just to hear “zingers’. The percentage of punches landed just made for better nemes. I feel no real issues got discussed until the first half of the last debate anyway. Donald wasnt waving his hands all over the place, sniffing, even speaking in low tones. Hillary was even tossing out more stats. Viewers branded it a snore because there wasn’t enough fodder fir an SNL skit. Soon as Donald got his button pushed, shenanigans as usual. I’m waiting on SNLs Nasty Woman sketch opener.

      • TeeChantel

        “If you “don’t know” who to vote for by now I assume your elevator doesn’t go all the way to the top floor in your head.”
        I’d also say the same for those voting for Trump. #sorrynotsorry

      • NonyaB?

        Treat it as a signal:If you walk into a room of people and ask who each is voting for, ignore those who name a candidate, say they aren’t voting. But those saying they’re undecided? The biggest hypocrites right there. Know that they’ll be behind every mystery crime, from you getting stabbed in the back to the building suddenly going on fire. Close second:Those that say it’s nonya bidness who they’re voting for.

        • Hey, that nonya bidness is how I go through large swathes of my life. I just don’t feel like being Mr. Libertarian everywhere I go. :)

          • NonyaB?

            Which explains why young metro don’t trust ya!

        • Annalise Keating

          “Know that they’ll be behind every mystery crime, from you getting stabbed in the back to the building suddenly going on fire. Close second:Those that say it’s nonya bidness who they’re voting for.”

          LMAO!!!!

          • NonyaB?

            #ButDidILie

            • Annalise Keating

              #nolies.

      • DM.

        White people just like being babied lol (see: the reaction to the meth epidemic + the media’s insistence on calling poor, uneducated whites= “the working class”) Most sane people knew who they were voting for by March anyway.

        • pls

          can you elaborate on the parenthesis? What was their reaction? I’m tide of hearing about the “working class” and knowing they aren’t talking about my black a$$!

    • mr. steal your costco samples

      bigly was never fair. like, it’s super duper obvious it’s big league.

      i mean, it’s dumb but it’s English

    • Blueberry01

      Hmm…I thought he was trying to say, “majorly” or “greatly”.

  • Lemme reread so I can chronicle all these quotables you dropped on some Reasonable Doubt ish

    • This is extremely well written though.

  • Lego

    It’s unfortunate for the nation that none of Clinton’s positions have truly been challenged at these debates. Every time Trump makes an insane assertion she just gets to (literally) laugh it off and pivot to her talking point about his awfulness. This cycle has just been full of vague ideas and specific nastiness. Any nuance that should have developed in the primaries was laid to rest at the end of the them.

    • Brandon Allen

      During the debate, one of the subtle things beneath the surface that came out is they kind agree on immigration on some level.

      • Lego

        Yup, that was entirely overlooked.

      • KNeale

        Which part so I can go watch. I was debating with someone a while back that we were getting distracted by Trump’s outlandish comments about immigration. That most of what he is saying is ranging from impossible to highly unlikely. And the rest is actually not that different from Hillary’s (Dem) position. Now her position may have been updated (as a lot of her positions have been) so I want to go see what you talking about. Lol.

        • Brandon Allen

          At one point everyone’s caught up with “Bad hombres” and talking about how the wall is ridiculous and Trump replies that Obama has deported a lot of people which is true.

          Hillary said she “is for securing our border” but it would just be expensive to deport people. Talked about eliminating business incentive to take advantage of immigrant labor.

          She acknowledged it’s an issue but just wasn’t bombastic and ridiculous.

      • Scorpiogoddess??

        *rolls eyes* they can both go phakk themselves.

      • Question

        Immigration isn’t really an issue politically for either side. They talk about it only because the American people demand it. But lets be real – Barack Obama has deported more illegals than George Bush (hence why they call him the Deporter in Chief). There are no open borders and Hillary doesn’t want amnesty or anything akin to it. If it were up to her, she wouldn’t do anything differently.

        And the truth is, neither would Trump.

        • Cleojonz

          So why is this allowed to continue to be a talking point as if the current administration hasn’t already been tough on immigration? Like what do they really want?

          • Me

            It’s a continued talking point because Hispanics have large PACs pushing the immigration reform agenda which is the flip side of the illegal immigrant agenda. So any politician who wants the votes/money from that demographic has to have a position on the issue. The point is that the positions on both sides of the aisle are more similar than different.

          • Epsilonicus

            Because it allows wealthy white people to get poor white people to be mad at minorities instead of being mad at them.

            • You nailed it! Though some of it isn’t necessarily anyone’s fault in the traditional sense. Trade was going to happen one way or another, and people seem to forget how big a deal automation was as an issue in the 50s and 60s.

              • Epsilonicus

                Automation is still a big deal. Shucks. Even when car companies come back to the US, the factories are always more automated than before they came back.

                • The only people who seem to talk sense about it are, oddly enough, German carmarkers who set up shop down South. They’re used to their equivalent of community colleges churning out trained workers, and forced some spots in the South to do likewise to set up shop. Everyone else is still stuck in the 50s.

          • Question

            Because the Latino community has forced into the forefront, and in response, the GOP has come up with a position (that immigration is killing American jobs) that likewise requires a response from their politicians. Its an issue that both constituent groups have been told to care about, but politicians don’t want to deal with.

            And Latinos are transient voters – meaning, they aren’t firmly Liberal or Conservative; they will go where they feel they are being best heard.

            • Blueberry01

              And I never understood what jobs they were exactly stealing. I mean, if they were available, doesn’t that probably mean they weren’t desired by Americans?

              • Question

                Oh you didn’t know that Black people supposedly wanted these jobs? That if there were no illegals, everyone from the hood would move to the Great Plains and California to pick fruit and slaughter cows? Oh and that we would be cleaning houses too?

                (I’ve often heard White Republocans claim that we are the ones suffering because of illegal immigration).

                • Blueberry01

                  Don’t forget landscaping and roofing!

        • It’s actually not true that Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than Bush. What has occurred is that the definition of deportation has changed to include people immediately turned away at the border. These people were previously not counted as deportations.
          http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html
          But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.

          Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

          On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency’s deportation statistics

          Also after its recent loss at the Supreme Court regarding expanded DACA, the Adminstration has decided to suspend/delay deportations for recent arrivals from Central America (Haitians aren’t included in this though)
          http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/07/us/delayed-deportations-illegal-immigrants.html

          The Obama administration is delaying deportation proceedings for recent immigrants in cities across the United States, allowing more than 56,000 of those who fled Central America since 2014 to remain in the country legally for several more years.

          The shift, described in interviews with immigration lawyers, federal officials, and current and former judges, has been occurring without public attention for months.

  • NonyaB?

    Holy word souffle, ma’am!

    ” … keenly aware that I was making the wrong decision … when I said “I do”
    Oof. Trust your days are sunnier now.

    “… bile filled stews called debates through a colander of melanated millennial jargon”
    Biting, accurate. Resulting dish sounds like a spaghetti squash of fxckshit bound for heII.

    “Obviously there might be a bigly tangerine reason ”
    Ma’am, the citrus association called: They will not have this libelous association with that fetid blob of indeterminate origins. In conjunction with Pantone, they are also confronting others who have been referring to the blob as orange.

    “… the slit in Donald’s face that forms two arguable lips”.
    I heard his lips came via transplant of someone’s discarded, puckered an*s, hence their particularly vile appearance.

    Oh, and good luck, ‘Murica; y’all gon’ need it.

  • Sigma_Since 93

    I don’t to Twitter.

    Champ or PJ please post something that I can comment on.

    Sincerely,

    Sigma_Since93

    • Scorpiogoddess??

      What about those that do doe?

    • TheCollinB

      Hit em with the TL:DR
      Good form Sig

    • Take a nap

      • Kas

        He had already nodded off.

  • -h.h.h.-

    There are a few instances in my life where I was keenly aware that I was making the wrong decision; when I bought a ticket to see Batman vs Superman,

    *labels post as spam*
    *pre-emptively labels all comments as spam*

    • Tambra

      Go in the corner and hug it out with OG.

      • -h.h.h.-

        any article that can slander Batman vs. Superman within 3 sentences is just going to be multitude of multisyllabic metaphors of mediocrity. automatic spam.

        • Tambra

          Truth hurts

    • Kelly Kell

      I mean that flick was trash. All hype, no follow through. Spam me.

  • HoobaStankyLeg

    Hmmmm. Tupac in the Rock’n Roll hall of fame…. I’m going to have to read their mission statement because I obviously am unsure of what constitutes admission.

    • cyanic

      They’re not restricted by genre.

      • HoobaStankyLeg

        Right. I know they don’t restrict by genre. I just don’t understand why it takes so long to honor the obvious. Now? Y’all just now thought to induct him? Makes me wonder if there’s a waiting period of some sort. What’s so great about the man now that wasn’t great then?

        • cyanic

          I believe 25 years must pass since your first recording.

          • HoobaStankyLeg

            Ah! There it is. Thanks for clearing that up. I was starting to think that they were just late, as usual.

            • cyanic

              I believe this is his first year of eligibility.

            • Kylroy

              They’re just *perpetually* late, by design.

  • George W Bush really killed the republican party on a national level though. There aren’t any big republicans that the party can call back to to curry favor with the base. Them investing in both the tea party movement and birther movement were some of the final blows. If they weren’t able to hold states we would be living in a Democrat controlled party for next 3 decades

    • I don’t know. Say what you will, but there’s enough on the bench for one of them to break through. They control too many state houses to completely die. Ironically, that’s the Democratic party’s biggest problem: the lack of a bench. They do well with national elections, but suck at state level ones.

      • mr. steal your costco samples

        b/c state legislatures overrepresent the rural folks. iirc there’s an Ohio district that hits both Cleveland and Toledo (although that might be House)

        • Two things. One, *somebody* has to represent the rural folks. Two, demographics matter more than one thinks. The Democrat vote is so concentrated in the cities that it’s not that hard for Republicans to clean up the balance. Short of outright demographic changes where large numbers of people of color move into the sticks, I’m not sure how to fix it.

          • mr. steal your costco samples

            I think they might move out into inner ring suburbs. I feel like that happened in Pittsburgh with Monroeville and some of the North Hills

            • And that’s probably going to be the big long-term change moving forward. Once that happens, the geographic gap shrinks.

          • Kas

            Read up on the big push by the Republicans to gerrymander ahead of the 2010 census. There moves were masterful.

            • It worked mainly because the Obama coalition sat out the 2010 election. Plus only half of the deficit in the seats can be explained by gerrymandering. I read something that due to pure geography, even with the best drawn districts, the Democrats are 2-3% in the hole. In a tight election, that’s huge.

              • mr. steal your costco samples

                2010 was really depressing; you could see contours of the total opposition long game starting with ACA and the stimulus (which did not need ONE GOP VOTE as they kept reminding us), even though they were s a huge accomplishment and necessary respectively.

                Plus they were still pretend the Tea Party were some grass roots cats, and Glenn Beck was outchea calling Obama the real racist.

        • Blueberry01

          I read sonewhere that since prisons are located in rural areas, those prisoners are counted as residents (but if course, they can’t vote). Thus, rural areas are overrrepresented.

      • That’s what I said?????

    • DM.

      To be fair though, the far left is a ticking time bomb too.
      Pretty soon (D) will be the party of climate change, Wall St hate and weed. (All on the backs of black folks’ votes as usual lol)

      • The subtle thing I think people are missing is that Black America is emerging as America’s political center. The Whites are skewing towards the edges either way.

        • DM.

          I actually agree with this. The power of the black vote always seems secondary to “Suburban white women in the Philly suburbs” but we’re the ones who co ckblocked Bernie’s revolution. Plus black turnout is what flips swing states (Ohio, Virginia, NC, PA)

  • brothaskeeper

    “… the slit in Donald’s face that forms two arguable lips”.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e34e24c40e304592d074e8264c9e5f049945528074bbc4f31674dd41345f5508.gif

    A sphincter with teeth, also.

    My prayer is that this triggers a sustained pressing of a metaphorical reset button, and that we the American people experience some type of metaphysical Reconstruction, because while we are avoiding the election of HeII Toupeé to the highest office in the world, we are left to deal with his dumbing down of our collective psyches. In no manner should the personification of a construction site water cooler have even sniffed a major party nomination. Also, all the members of the RNC should be censured to some degree for enabling Donald D!ck.

    • HoobaStankyLeg

      From the neck up, he’s basically a taint.

    • Tambra
    • Tambra
    • The problem is that neither party primary was run right. The Democratic primary was so worked, I think it got a five star rating from Dave Meltzer’s Wrestling Observer. The Republican primary was a Kubler Ross cycle of grief, where acceptance didn’t happen until Donald Trump was too far.

      I gotta be more humble though. There was a random dude running around in his drawers during the Libertarian convention.

      • brothaskeeper

        “”There was a random dude running around in his drawers during the Libertarian convention”

        Was it Gary Johnson? *snicker*

        • mr. steal your costco samples

          like Bugs Bunny except bro made a wrong left turn at Aleppo instead of Albquerque

        • It wasn’t. I can’t easily link to the footage but compared to Ted Cruz’s Playa Hating speech at the RNC and the Bernie Boys wilding out in Philly, it wasn’t that bad.

      • Blueberry01

        So true with that cycle of grief…

      • King Beauregard

        “The Democratic primary was so worked, I think it got a five star rating from Dave Meltzer’s Wrestling Observer.”

        I’ll say what I keep having to tell people at Salon and elsewhere: Bernie won the white vote, but he lost because blacks and Latinos can vote too — which is incidentally exactly what Romney experienced, and McCain experienced, and even Hillary experienced in 2008. It is now officially the only winning plan in a nationwide election: you have to win over blacks and Latinos or you lose, full stop.

        In state after state the same pattern emerged: Bernie did well in where the people were overwhelmingly white and/or caucuses were held, but blacks, Latinos, and primaries meant him losing. That’s not the Democratic Party somehow rigging the contest, that is the people speaking.

        http://www.forwardprogressives.com/primary-wasnt-rigged-bernie-sanders-numbers-prove/

        http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/23/1529938/-11-reasons-why-Bernie-Sanders-lost-this-thing-fair-and-square

        Now as for HOW Hillary made a more compelling case than Bernie did, it would be very much out of place for me to say. But all the results show that she did.

  • It is easy to become jaded at the side show that this election has become but we have to keep sight that one of these people will represent ‘us’ across the world. We can’t just check out, that’s how Hitler happened, how Put in happened. They will convince enough people that they are powerless so they can absorb more control.

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