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Three Non-Football Reasons Why Baltimore Would Be The Best City For Colin Kaepernick

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Five years after his Super Bowl loss to Joe Flacco and the Ravens, Colin Kaepernick is still better than at least a dozen QBs who already have jobs; guys so awful that nobody would’ve paid attention if they were on the sidelines smoking weed during the national anthem. We shouldn’t even be having this conversation because Kaepernick would have been signed weeks ago. Except racism.

But since we’re here — and since I was a student in Baltimore in the Ray Lewis era — here are three great, non-football reasons the Ravens should sign Kaep before the end of the day:

1. The Two Rays

Before he met with Donald Trump last year and before he made a habit of dropping biblical references in his color commentary, Ray Lewis was charged with stabbing two guys to death in Atlanta. And we all saw what Ray Rice did in that elevator — I spent my entire summer of 2014 on CNN talking about it. Lewis beat the murder rap and was deified by Ravens fans for the rest of his career. Rice never played another snap in the NFL, but some of the classier Baltimorons still rocked his jersey to games. 

If that’s the reception these guys got from Baltimore, I’m not here for any complaints about Kaepernick.

2. Lake Trout

Yes, it’s stereotypical to list greasy-ass fried fish as a reason a Black man should move to a city for a job. But Lake Trout joints are all over the place in Baltimore. That greasy-ass fried fish on two slices of white bread, plus fries and a half-and-half tastes good as shit and damn near got me through college. I struggle to think of a blacker thing than Kaep — afro in full splendor —  rolling up Park Heights or down Pennsylvania Avenue for a lake trout combo. And since he spent 2016 doing one Blackest Thing Ever after another, and being vilified for it, he gets to do this and y’all don’t get to say a damn thing.

3. Baltimore is Black as fuck

Polling firm J.D. Power yesterday released a survey of 9,200 obviously white people about their sports-watching habits in 2016. While ESPN (my former employer) ran with the headline that protests were the biggest reason people turned off football last year, the Washington Post debunked that thoroughly. Kaepernick’s presence in Baltimore would challenge the narrative that anthem protests are turning off football fans. This is, after all, where youth clashed with police over Freddie Gray’s death. It’s the same town that elected a prosecutor who took charged all six officers involved in the incident; the same town where jurors once acquitted a teenager accused in the death of an officer even though the kid had been literally been pulled out of the car as it was on top of the police cruiser because the jurors didn’t trust cops’ testimony.

It’s the same town where the US Department of Justice concluded that the police department “engages in a pattern or practice of: (1) making unconstitutional stops, searches, and arrests; (2) using enforcement strategies that produce severe and unjustified disparities in the rates of stops, searches and arrests of African Americans; (3) using excessive force; and (4) retaliating against people engaging in constitutionally-protected expression.”

Baltimore is not a town where a guy like Kaepernick will hear a lot of boos for protesting against police violence (at least not the same way he would in Kansas City or Pittsburgh) because Baltimoreans — 63 percent of whom are black — are too familiar with police misconduct. Ravens fans, at least a big chunk of them, would have no problem with Colin Kaepernick kneeling during the national anthem, even if he did it while eating a greasy-ass fish sandwich.

Keith Reed

Keith Reed is a Pittsburgh-born writer and editor who's worked for ESPN Mag and The Boston Globe

  • Valerie

    [Disclaimer: This is not my whole opinion on Colin, I’m only providing this argument as to way he may not be signed. I only typed this out because people were interested in my views, downthread. I have provided links to articles that backed up my thoughts. I could also provide more. If you have the time, I suggest you read them]

    At this point it’s past the protests. It’s about the bad press and who Colin surrounds himself with. The likes of Shaun King (who have taken money from BLM protesters). Tariq Narsheed (hotep) and his girlfriend (that he
    stole from his best friend/teammate Aldon Smith which caused a fight). Aldon was a great friend to Colin. Examples include supporting Camp Taylor both physically and monetarily. He didn’t have to involve himself at all but Colin was his friend before the betrayal. Smith, Crabtree and other players on the 49ers left after this incident.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/goldie-taylorwhere-did-all-the-money-shaun-king-raised-for-black-lives-go

    http://thebiglead.com/2015/08/07/colin-kaepernick-nessa-aldon-smith/

    I’m sure they’ve done background checks with whom he surrounds, as they do with everyone. Nessa is coming across as Miko Grimes for those that know her know what I’m talking about. Nobody has time for that. Both of these ADULTS are behaving like spoiled children when they don’t get their way. Not only that, Colin hasn’t said one mumbling word in his or her defense.

    You can’t even speak up for yourself and stand fully in your ish but you expect other people to speak up and rally for you a job??. You cannot ask for a job, then blast the company that will not hire you as racist. If that’s the case, Google is racist since they keep rejecting me.

    Colin has made silly decisions: not being registered to vote and not voting, saying he agrees with Castro education views, ignorance when it comes to Malcolm X (who I love, btw). He comes across as disingenuous and way over in his head.

    http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/11/23/san-francisco-49ers-qb-colin-kaepernick-praises-fidel-castro-for-investing-in-education/

    In regards to charities and foundations because I will know this will be brought up: There are plenty of black players that are charitable and don’t need photo-ops to prove it such as Brandon Marshall, Nnamdi Asomugha, Warrick Dunn, and Russell Wilson. There are black players that are vocal and have been so since they entered the league.

    http://proplayerinsiders.com/nfl-player-team-news-features/making-impact-top-10-nfl-player-foundations/

    I am tired of this topic mostly because I want the focus to be on football but we cannot do that because every day there’s an article about this. I want to know how my Titans are doing.

    • Darkchloe144
      • Valerie

        You got to have them these days lol

    • Epsilonicus

      Them owners care about none of that. Thst care that their ticket buyers are threatening to stay home and thathat sponsors are threatening to back out.

      • Alessandro De Medici
      • Valerie

        They care about their bottom line, fans and money: Colin brings drama with all his shenanigans . Nobody wants drama.

        • Sigma_Since 93

          Aren’t you and Eps effectively saying the same thing?

          • Valerie

            No.

            • Sigma_Since 93

              You both agree that owners are looking at the bottom line and Colin is perceived to adversely impact the bottom line. All the other comments are tangential.

              Side Note

              You made a statement

              “As far as his charities and foundations because I will know this will be brought up: There are plenty of black players that are charitable and don’t need photo-ops to prove it such as Brandon Marshall, Nnamdi Asomugha, Warrick Dunn, and Russell Wilson.”

              Everyone that you mentioned has done a photo op for their charity. Heck, DeShaun Watson lived in a house that Warrick Dunn’s foundation provided. How do I know about this….the photo op.

              • Epsilonicus

                If the only drama Colin had was banging a teammate ex, he would be on a team by now. It’s the protest that bothers owners and ticket buyers

                • MsSula

                  I mean we have wife beaters on teams so this should be a minor offense.

                  • Epsilonicus

                    Our lives aint valued that high though

                    • MsSula

                      Unfortunately.

                • Oluseyi

                  Tony Parker banged a teammate’s wife.

                  The teammate got traded.

                  I’m jus’ sayin’.

                  • Epsilonicus

                    My point. That teammate prolly sucked

                    • Oluseyi

                      Shout to the remnants of Brent Barry’s career, circa 2013…

              • i think it’s one thing to do a photo op (it’s part of effective communications)…

                Kaep is more than a photo op; it’s become a part of the newscycle. and the fact that we keep discussing it as a public, makes it more than a photo op and gives this way more attention than any of the others mentioned.

              • Valerie

                Thanks for your argument.

                • Sigma_Since 93

                  No thanks for yours. It just goes to show we are not a monolith and we can have a discussion without name calling or calling folks Uncle Toms

                  • Valerie

                    On social media, I’m always cautious of what I post especially if it doesn’t go with the crowd.

              • Cheech

                Just a SN on charity and photo ops–I think it’s unrealistic to criticize athletes or celebs for publicizing their charity work. Most charities are as much in need of favorable publicity as they are money (because one drives the other, and also to gain notice for their cause among decisionmakers). Athletes lending their profile is part of the giving–it is a force multiplier for their cash and their time. And they are uniquely in a position to do it–it’s not somet

                • Epsilonicus

                  I work in that sector and beat believe when a Raven donates, we make sure that there is some sort of photo o.o and it gets plastered everywhere

          • Alessandro De Medici

            I think where they differ is how they view this. Eps is implying that there’s a certain amount of cowardice/hypocrisy in their actions, whereas Valerie is basically implying that that’s their raison d’être. I think this is an issue you’d have to deal with even if you were a black NFL owner who agreed with everything Kaepernick stands for.

            I tend to side with Valerie here, to be fair. I’d see more of an upside for bringing Colin on if a team had little to no prospects and had no serious starting QB, thus, they were willing to bring him on and take him in. At the very least, he could prove his doubters, win games and make up for the drama that’s associated with him, like Vick did when he got hot for a bit with the Eagles (which was also very risky). On the bench or as a backup, there’s not much he can do, and it’s likely that he becomes a negative.

            • Sigma_Since 93

              Throws BS on some of your rationale. The reality is that Colin is better than 80% of the back up quarterbacks and 20% of the starters. There are a few things that could be in play:
              Do I bring in a backup that’s better than my starter (New York Jets) and create a controversy?
              Can I afford to pay this man based upon his veteran salary requirements and my salary cap situation?
              Otherwise, the situation boils down to:
              I have a competent QB
              Hate
              Hiding behind the bottom line; especially if my team has employed players with sketchy backgrounds

              • Alessandro De Medici

                Apparently public relations doesn’t matter then?

                • Sigma_Since 93

                  When the leadership wants something, when has public relations mattered?
                  Every week when Vick was here, folks lined up and protested. Did it stop the Rooney’s??
                  Every week, there will be some domestic violence group protesting Mixon. Did it stop the Brown’s from drafting him???
                  Dontae Sallworth killed a man. Did the outrage from MADD keep him out the league??

                  • Alessandro De Medici

                    But that doesn’t change the fact that they took a risk. That’s the point I keep making. It wasn’t like people were going head over heels to go out there and sign Vick or any of the other people you mentioned. A gamble is being made, in all those situations, and there’s always an upside or downside to that.

                    People don’t want to accept that whoever brings him on is taking a bet, and could possibly take Ls if things don’t work out.

                    • Sigma_Since 93

                      You’re not saying something that already baked into the formula. Drafting and signing players is a risk; sometimes they work out well and sometimes it doesn’t In the beloved words of my coach Omar Epps oops I mean Mike T, I’ll put up with you until I can afford to replace you. Every team operates under that mantra. As long as the talent level is high, folks will put up with stuff.
                      The football folks without a fault agree that Kappanick would improve their quarterback situations (starting or backup). The owners don’t want the negative blowback; not everyone is Branch Rickey.

                    • Alessandro De Medici

                      Yes, we agree for the most part (although I’d say different teams have different sets of risks they’re willing to assume). However, where I differ is that people seem to discount the potential cost of the negative blowback that could come with Kaepernick. It’s wayyy higher than what it was Michael Vick due to time gaps.

                    • Sigma_Since 93

                      The blow back takes the sheet off of many folks. Why are you mad?
                      Is it because he kneeled?
                      Because of why he kneeled?
                      The sad reality is that folks are mad that he kneeled and could care less about the why. Here’s a question for the crew, what’s really changed from Mexico City to the Kappanick situation?

                    • Alessandro De Medici

                      Yeah, but that’s a political/cultural issue which is what is driving NFL’s owner reactions. If most people didn’t care, he’d be signed by now. Not because NFL owners are courageous or ethical, just because the upside would be so high for having them on.

                    • VeronicaMars

                      Various Ravens fans/friends don’t want him in the birthplace of the National Anthem.

                    • Sigma_Since 93

                      “Various Ravens fans/friends don’t want him in the birthplace of the National Anthem.”

                      With a third verse that speaks to the being miffed that slaves would leave massa’s house and join the Red Coats that folks get cognitive dissonance about

                  • VeronicaMars

                    “Dontae Sallworth killed a man. Did the outrage from MADD keep him out the league??”

                    Naw, because we signed him lol

    • Epsilonicus

      Also, didn’t King literally tweet receipts?

      • Valerie

        If you defend Shaun King in 2017 when there has been so many receipts on him, then there is NOTHING we can talk about. Honestly, truly.

        • Epsilonicus

          I’m asking because I saw stuff ( I didn’t look deeply) about him doing a document drop in Twitter about receipts on this money thing.

          I care about being accurate. If imma.criticize.someone, I want it to be accurate

          • Valerie

            I provided an article in my post. I suggest you read it, that gives you an idea.

            • Epsilonicus

              I saw the piece. He dropped the documents after though. We’re they proven false or something? I’m legit asking bc I don’t know and can’t find anything on the web.

              • Valerie

                I will attempt to find you more links, however it will be later today. I am on my way into a meeting and must appear as if I’m paying attention.

    • when you add this into context, the hesitancy makes sense. the fact that Kaep won a locker room award as well, makes the whole thing confusing to an outsider like myself.

      which is why i dont have much of an opinion, other than i dont see him being on any of my fantasy football squads #ItsThatTimeofTheYear

      • Alessandro De Medici

        NFL is over-sensitive to public backlash. It’s easy to see this with how they reacted to the Ray Rice situation, where now we see Lean In commercials during NFL games for the sake of PR. Apparently, people don’t think the same things works in reverse with rednecks and patriot nutjobs who watch the NFL as well.

        The NFL generates a lot of dough, but as a political organization, it’s relatively weak compared to other lobbying groups, because how many votes in an election can the NFL guarantee in a midterm or national election?

      • Valerie

        I agree. There are legit reasons why there maybe some hesitancy, just wish more people would see it.

    • MsSula

      “If that’s the case, Google is racist since they keep rejecting me.”

      I am not sure I understand the correlation.

      • Valerie

        That was my point there was no correlation, it was a sarcastic joke. Just because a company does not hire you does not mean they are racist.

        • MsSula

          It could be because they know what you look like. So yeah, they are racist if they don’t hire you because they assimilate your “antics” will anger their white fan base.

          Google rejects a resume, not a person.

          • Valerie

            Thanks for your viewpoint.

            In my experience, companies can disqualify you for your social media posts. I’ve had this happen to me. My point is that he and his girlfriend should watch what they post.

            • Mary Burrell

              Yeah that’s true about companies disqualifying a job seeker for social media comments. And many employers can terminate you as well.

    • miss t-lee

      “Nessa is coming across as Miko Grimes for those that know her know what I’m talking about. Nobody has time for that.”

      Yeesh. That’s never good.

      • Valerie

        Never.

    • Cleojonz

      This was a very well laid out argument against Kaepernick.

    • dmcmillian72

      Woooooooooow! I’m not a sports fan in the least, so I’ve only ever followed this at a very high-level…as it relates to his ‘protesting’. It never occurred to me that his character could be the issue, not ONLY that he took a knee (although his protractors make it hard to see anything else as the reason). Sooooo, Kaep may just be a trash-ass person and owners don’t want that added drama and f@ckery on their team…? #I’mThinking

      • Epsilonicus

        Owners take more trash people with even less talent all the time though.

        One dude admitted in public he beats his wife and he got a contract extension

        • dmcmillian72

          Understood… But then doesn’t that leave us back at square one? That his still being unhired at this point is because of his protest? Which, for me, speaks to racism…more the owners caving to racist fans.

          • Epsilonicus

            It boils down to one fact: for many teams, the people who support Kaep don’t buy as many tickets as those who are against him

      • Alessandro De Medici

        It’s def not a character issue, that’s not why he’s not signed.

        A good chunk of people were pi$$ed off by Colin Kaepernick protests. Fans threatened protests, Radio stations dropped games. And Kaepernick was the face of most of the national anthem protests.

        So the upside of the risk of bringing him on, is you get a relatively good backup QB for an affordable price, and the downside is you end up with a backup QB who has a large number of people who hate him in particular (every other NFL player who participated in the national anthem protests has a job right now…even the black Patriot players who said they hate Trump and believe he’s a racist got jobs and were in fact in high demand during the offseason.)

        Most teams currently think the downside outweigh the upside.

        • Hugh Akston

          I’ve said this to someone else but at times the actions of some of us high positions should be checked and double checked with advisors etc…don’t mess your money up and then cry foul

          I don’t plan on watching football like that at this…NE still rocks as a team…maybe….there???

          • Epsilonicus

            Kaep hasn’t crud foul though. He has been pretty quiet. It’s the public where this debate is raging

            • Hugh Akston

              He opt out of 14 mill

              That’s what I was referring to…that was guaranteed money

          • Alessandro De Medici

            Kaep’s problem is timing. His prospects improve the less the public cares about the politics around the protests. He might have a better shot midseason.

            As for N.E. or any team it’s really about what risk the Owners are willing to take.

      • Valerie

        I don’t think he is a trash person. I just don’t think his actions line up to what is trying to portray. We as black people actions are always put up to a microscope so he should be more careful.

    • Oluseyi

      Let us posit that Colin is a trash person?T

      Let us also posit that Colin is “Light Woke”?L

      Finally, let us posit that Colin is a better QB than several players who currently have jobs?Q

      L and T are independent variables. Even some of our Civil Rights leaders were trash persons.

      T does not prohibit football players from getting jobs.

      L does not prohibit football players from getting jobs, either. Colin ain’t the only player who took a knee at some point last season.

      Q is both independent of and of far greater magnitude than L or T. Ceteris paribus, Q alone should dictate Colin’s having a job. That he doesn’t suggests another factor in play.

      QED, Colin’s not having a job ain’t really got much to do with Colin.

      • Valerie

        As I stated in the disclaimer that this is my opinion therefore it is not a fact as to why he may not be signed. These are just my thoughts as to why he did not get signed.

        Also I never said he was a trash person, I just thought his actions did not shape up to the image he is trying to create.

        Thanks for your viewpoint.

        • Oluseyi

          Not disagreeing with you or trying to counter your viewpoint. Your perspective is inherently valid, and you did us the courtesy of caveating it as wholly subjective—thank you.

          I’m just expanding on the subject, while constraining myself solely to the question of whether or not he represents a valuable addition, on the field and fiscally, to a football team.

          • Valerie

            Understood. Thanks :-)

    • VeronicaMars

      I appreciated your view on the situation. I know two months ago, I was going to protest the league and everything. Now, I may still go see the Ravens beat up on the Titans this season. It takes opposing views to look at things a certain way. We many not agree, but I get your points.

      • Valerie

        Now, I may still go see the Ravens beat up on the Titans this season.

        Well that’s not nice, also it probably won’t happen due to how the Titans team has been built this off season and our record and stats last year compared to the Ravens. We’ll see, November 5th. :-)

        • Epsilonicus

          Yall going down!

        • also it probably won’t happen due

          ma’am…i think you spelled “will” wrong…it’s not w-o-n-t, it’s w-i-l-l

          just trying to be helpful

          • Valerie

            I am remaining civil. Football season hasn’t started yet, so I’m chilling

    • Val

      But g00gle is racist, js.

    • Val

      This is kind of what some White folks do. When Black people protest something they ignore what he or she is protesting and look for personal things about them to discredit them.

      • Valerie

        I love you Val but this is why I feel as though some black people don’t like going against the grain because we (not saying you have done it) get attacked for it. In my personal life and on social media, I don’t want to be accused of “trying to be white people” or “hating my race” for not agreeing with the status quo. However, I have learned that is how it is.

        Me not agreeing with Colin Kaepernick had nothing to do with discrediting him or how he is as a person. I stated my opinions and provided links to back up those opinions. I just don’t agree with his image and I remember his past actions earlier in the league.

        • Val

          Love you too, chica. First, let me be clear, I was not accusing you of acting White not of hating your people. *eHUG*

          My point was that expecting Colin to be perfect is something that the larger society does to us when we take a stand. He stood up for all of us and is now paying the price. It’s pretty simple.

          So, I don’t see what the people Colin supposedly hangs with has to do with this. It seems Colin has backed up his protest with work and money. Why can’t he be judged on that alone?

          And finally, I’m not really sure that you are going against the grain. From the anecdotal evidence I’ve seen around social media Black folks aren’t lining up in unison behind Colin.

          So, have your opinions but if I or someone else disagrees it’s not a personal attack, it’s just a conversation or sometimes debate on the subject at hand.

          • Valerie

            I withdrew all support for him when he decided the Houston floods (that someone I knew that passed away) was funny. This happened in 2015. A year before his drastic change and while I agreed with his original stance, I cannot support him.

            I just don’t like him.

            http://deadspin.com/colin-kaepernick-unwisely-compares-self-to-houston-floo-1707019740

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ea1730e792b5d0dbd9cb1c05d98eed22076689c9279046e5b987f7c74f6bed6a.jpg

            • Mary Burrell

              I am in shock.

            • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

              Wow. That’s shocking.

              • Valerie

                Yes, unfortunately I never forgave him for that. I didn’t like his initial apology, shirtless picture and then the PR apology.

                Could it have been a mistake yes, but this was literally a year right before his new image change. I just don’t believe his new image but I support the stance on police brutality.

                • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

                  Yesterday is the first time that I heard of this story about him. Yes, he was wrong for what he did. There are no excuses for that. I agree with his views on police brutality and the criminal justice system, but I don’t support his mocking the suffering of people as a result of a natural disaster.

                  • Valerie

                    We are in agreement, truth :-)

                    • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

                      Exactly Sister. :)

        • Mary Burrell

          Sis, you scaled me with that Lipton about him and Nessa.

      • Mary Burrell

        I hope it’s not true he’s friends with that hotep POS Tariq Nasheed.

    • Mary Burrell

      I need to read up on this how can it be???????

  • I’m a Kansas Citian that loves Kaep but i completely support this message.

    • Andy Reed could get something done with Kaep.

      • Almost anybody could.

  • Oluseyi

    Just gonna derail briefly because I couldn’t think of any more appropriate place on the entire internet to post this:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9fdc1971f4ca5ae7056fb430092bd2ecdfc7eeb4564f7c17bdc735b2ae1dfdbb.png

    Basically…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqbXQa05Z6c

    (I actually made the last payment like 2 months ago, but you know how Sallie gon’ take awwwwwwll her time, and sometimes charge you a random-azz 17¢ just to be petty. Anyways, done, done, DUN!)

    • Oluseyi

      Oh, it’s also my birthday.

      • Kas

        Happy birthdya

      • LMNOP

        Happy Birthday!!

      • Hugh Akston

        Hopefully you’re on a plane heading to the cayeman islands to set that account and enjoying the good life

        • Oluseyi

          Not today, but gonna take some time off in about 2 weeks and maybe sneak to an island nearby to lay on a beach, imbibe libations with little umbrellas in coconut shells and… «redacted».

          • kingpinenut

            Stay strapped bruh!

            Congrats too!

      • #winning Way to go.

      • Michelle is my First Lady

        What a great birthday present! Congrats and Happy Birthday!

      • Sigma_Since 93

        Happy Birthday!

      • Tam

        Happy Birthday

      • Cleojonz

        Heeeeyy Happy Happy Birthday to you!

      • BrothasKeeper

        Ayeeeeeeee! Happy Birthday, big dawg! Be careful who pours your drink….

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/345cd86773a86bda54db7f22277bcc00c8dbf9a7e5d5ce357ffcc67ca566bf7d.gif

        • Oluseyi

          Co-worker was JUST talking about this scene yesterday! Gotta find some time to see Girls Trip

          ‘Preciate the love, fam.

      • LadySiriboe

        HB!

        • Hugh Akston

          (Sitting here trying to figure what hb means…hey boo.hb visa…holla back?…oh happy birthday lmao)

          • Oluseyi

            LOL.

          • LadySiriboe

            lol. Last I checked I got only one boo.

            • MsSula

              So BT was dropped like a bad habit, uh? Cold world.

              • LadySiriboe

                Who? Did you see how I addressed him? Sweerie. He is still my only grain of rice

                • MsSula

                  Ok I understand now. BT is the real boo and Siriboe is the fantasy boo?

                  Got it. :-)

                  • Tam

                    Or she is being dog in manger. * goes into hiding*

                  • LadySiriboe

                    No. Go back and re-read.

                    • MsSula

                      Let me get my reading on, because I is confused. Loll.

              • Tam

                I saw that and refused to comment, well I deleted my comment. I wonder if she would react if someone else decided to move in on him.

              • LadySiriboe

                Who? Did you see how I addressed him? Sweerie. He is still my second to first grain of rice

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      • Love Heals

        Congrats & Happy Birthday! I imagine you feel free and are breathing easier.

        • Oluseyi

          As those debt levels come down, so does my blood pressure, LOL!

          • Love Heals

            For sure. Good for you. A toast to your better life, Bruh.

            • Oluseyi

              Many thanks!

      • VeronicaMars

        Happy Birthday and congratulations!

      • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

        Happy Birthday.

      • SororSalsa

        Congrats on divorcing the bish Sallie and Happy Birthday to you!

        • Oluseyi

          Thank you!

    • Hugh Akston

      Congrats my dude

      Thanks for providing the motivation that it can be done

      • Oluseyi

        I caveat that my total loan amount was modest—should to community college, and Mom and Dad—but, yeah, it can be done.

        Looking at employer to bankroll grad school.

        • MsSula

          Yup to your 2nd sentence. Get them to pay for it.

          • Oluseyi

            Oh, that’s happening. Applied, was asked to take a couple prereqs, enrolling this coming semester. Hopefully will matriculate for grad in Fall 2018.

            Y’all played a part in motivating me (I graduated undergrad in 2005), so thanks to each and every one of you!

            • MsSula

              We like seeing a brother glow up!! How is the little one doing? And when do I get my invite for a proper Yoruba shinding? I got lots of lace that need to be worn. And @NonyaB is not trying to help me wear my finery. Loll.

              • Oluseyi

                We gon make it do what it do, then.

                Lil’ man is good. He better be, at that ‘spensive-azz chichi summer camp he going to, LOL.

              • NonyaB?

                Wetin you mean, Mizz Sula?! Someday soon, we will parry together!

            • Turner85

              This right here is motivation for me. I finished undergrad in 2009 (shout out to VUU) I am scheduled to take my LSAT in September. Prayers going up that I will be a 1L in Fall 2018

              • Oluseyi

                Sending prayers for phenomenal recall and composure during that LSAT. Go on and smash dat ting!

                • Turner85

                  Thank you!

              • Cheech

                When you get there your maturity will serve you well. And you won’t be scared by the whole 1L boot camp schtick.

                • Turner85

                  Thank you, I am hoping that the fact that I am going in my 30s vs. my 20s will be a benefit.

            • Kas

              87 undergrad and 2000 grad, 13 years is the charm.

        • trueletterson*vwfone@gmail.com

          smart!

    • grownandsexy2

      Happy Birthday! It don’t get no better than that.

      • Oluseyi

        Amen!

    • Darkchloe144

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ed1c40b5ab1182a68f4bf8aa2373a0dc76e2d2bbe8ca00d126fbeebfc34b9650.gif
      Congratulations, many libations for loan liberation!
      Edit: and happy birthday :)

      • Oluseyi

        Chuuuuuuuuch!

    • MsSula

      Well done Bro!!!! Congrats. So you need to buy the round of shots at the VSB Meetup!

      • Oluseyi

        I’m mad I haven’t been keeping a close eye, because I might could make it out tomorrow. Lemme see what I can do…

        • MsSula

          By the way, Sawcy is also looking for a place to crash in NYC. :-)

          • Oluseyi

            I actually would offer, but I’m hosting two people already. Gotta pay it forward and share the blessings.

      • BrothasKeeper

        What better way to celebrate improved credit than to blow money?

        • MsSula

          My man! loll.

    • Turn up!

    • LMNOP

      Woohoo! That’s great!!

    • Epsilonicus

      Congrats! Where do I send that bottle

      • Oluseyi

        Keep it on ice, Imma holla when I come through B’more so WE can pour.

        • Epsilonicus

          I look forward!

    • Cleojonz

      Won’t he do it! Congrats that’s awesome.

      • Oluseyi

        PRAISES!

    • Hugh Akston

      Oh and we need that post on how to pay your debt in x years and free yourself from a lady name Sallie lol

      • Michelle is my First Lady

        And her sidekick Navient.

        • Oluseyi

          More like her alias. Sallie think she slick!

          • Michelle is my First Lady

            Glad you were able to break free.

      • Oluseyi

        Ha! Gotta drop something more substantive when I finally make my VSB debut tho…

        …but should still write up a piece, if only to counter the Refi29 “receive a grant from your rich grandma” steps-to-wealth sh*tpieces.

        • Epsilonicus

          That “friends and family” round of investment

          • Oluseyi

            Step 1: Be born into rich family
            Step 2: ???
            Step 4: Profit

            • Kas

              This is the American way.

              • MsSula

                Exactly!! Pulling yourself up by the Boot(full of money)straps!!!

        • Hugh Akston

          Lol

          Smh even if that’s the case some of us needs to hear it

          I have an investment account for my goddaughter and starting a vanguard fund for my nephew so once they graduate high school that can assure a good chunk of loans to be taken care of

          So we need that encouragement as a whole

          • Oluseyi

            Yeah, I’ve got a Vanguard Roth after I rolled over my former employer’s 401(k), before I was full-time at my current gig and could sign up for theirs. About to set up a 529 for my son—save for college with pre-tax dollars. And, lastly, inflating the housing fund with a three-year buy or build timeline.

            Small individual steps, but they add up and compound powerfully over time.

      • Me

        Best way to reduce the number of years you spend paying down AND the amount of interest you pay on a loan is to 1. call them up, 2. ask them to refinance your loan into a lower interest rate (they’ll usually extend your term to do this), but 3. CONTINUE TO PAY AT YOUR OLD MINIMUM DUE. e.g. If your payments are $100 per month at 4% and they agree to lower your rate to 3.8%, your min due will be lower BUT you keep sending in $100 every month. The lower interest rate means more of your payment will be applied to principal each month, which will speed up the repayment process; and the fact that you keep sending in your old min due means you automatically have extra money being applied to your loan each month. So it’s a double wammy of principal payments. The only other way to meet a set timeline is to send in more money each month, which requires access to more money.

    • Turner85

      Yessss! Pay off those loans,,,,and Happy Birthday!!!

    • Cheech

      Dude. Congrats!

    • siante

      Seeing this made my day! Congrats!

      • Oluseyi

        Many, many thanks!

    • Sigma_Since 93
    • Valerie

      Congratulations!!!! This reminds me I need to call them and consolidate my loans into one loan. :-)

    • YeaSoh

      Very nice! Congrats!

      • Oluseyi

        Thanks! How you been?

        • YeaSoh

          Really well! Glad to see things are on the up-n-up on your end.

          • Oluseyi

            Been grinding, seeing the benefits.

    • Val

      Man, if that happened on my birthday I wouldn’t even celebrate my birthday. Lol Congrats on the loan, oh and happy birthday.

    • Junegirl627

      congratualations

      • Oluseyi

        Thank you kindly!

        • Junegirl627

          When I paid mine off last year I went to Miami for a vacation. Then because I was feeling like a baller with all that extra cash I called a zillow realtor to ask for a tour of a million dollar listing, and then I did the speed boat tour. In all white.

    • NICUGRAD2016

      Prize the lord!

    • Simms~

      Congrats and Happy Birthday!

    • Detroit Skater

      CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!

    • NomadaNare

      Congrats and Happy Birthday

    • miss t-lee

      Congratulations.

      • Oluseyi

        Thank you!

    • NonyaB?
    • Mary Burrell

      Celebrations and Jubilation ??????????

    • ?Lauren?

      Congrats!

      • Oluseyi

        Thank you very much!

    • Monica Harris

      My hero and inspiration

  • NICUGRAD2016

    We need him in Cleveland ASAP! Lol

    • Epsilonicus

      Indeed y’all do. Who is slated to start up there?

      • Is it RG3?

        • Epsilonicus

          I thought he got cut

          • apparently so. It looks like Kesler…. Which is to say a 3 win season.

            • Epsilonicus

              So they are getting first pick in the draft

              • They will blow it. Because Cleveland.

  • NomadaNare

    Thinking about this in detail

    Kaep may not be the best QB but at least making it to the playoffs would increase revenue for a team by some amount of money

    Team owners are leaving millions on the table to stick it to him and that should really interest people

    • Oluseyi

      It’s a market issue, which is why Baltimore is likely a good fit for him. In several other markets, the risk of boycotts and losses in gate receipts and concessions outweighs the upside of a few playoff rounds. In Baltimore, it’s a wash at worst, and significant upside at best.

    • Alessandro De Medici

      That’s where I think the problem is.

      Almost all the teams that would be bringing Kaep on, are bringing him on as a backup. He’d have a better shot if he was being brought in as a starter. The question is which teams are willing to dump their starting QB for Colin?

      • Epsilonicus

        Cleveland

      • NomadaNare

        I mean it should be obvious if your QBs stats are worse than his you are potentially leaving money on the table after factoring in the possibility of injury

        The fact that many teams dont even want to try him out for a year is especially galling considering how much flack DC is getting just for its name

        Again this is interesting and stinks of racism but I guess its on me for acting like an organization that makes billions off of rapists women beaters and murderers slowly beating each other into a violently degenerative brain disease should care about anyone but themselves even above and beyond their bottom lines

  • Hugh Akston

    How many qbs have made it to the super bowl since he came into the league and are still active with good knees? And how many qbs are in the NFL?

  • WenzelDashington

    NFL owners are an elite club of white men who decided to make an example of Kaep. Ali lost years from boxing for the same deal. Seattle, Washington DC, and Baltimore were probably the only places Kaep could land. I wish Flacco a nice fast recovery, but at the same time the ancestors have a way of allowing our voices tombs heard in the end.

  • YeaSoh

    Doesn’t Serena own part of the Dolphins? He can go there.

  • Brooklyn_Bruin

    Unrelated – speaking of Snowflakes
    This was in today’s journal

    But she was so intimidated by her first week at Converse College in Spartanburg, S.C. that she came home. The following year, she went to Lincoln College in Lincoln, Ill. but dropped out after a semester and had yet another failed go at college:

    …she clashed with her swim coach. As a conservative Christian, she also found the cultural divide on campus difficult to bridge. Students smoked pot, engaged in casual chex and had parties at their parents’ homes behind their backs…

    Determined to try again, she started at Olivet College in south central Michigan in 2016. But she struggled to fit in there, too. She felt uncomfortable when a professor asked students to write about why Donald Trump would make a bad president. Ms. Tibbetts began racing back to work at the pizzeria on weekends to avoid roommates who threw up in the shower after excessive drinking. She eventually moved home.

    ——

    *insert H Rap Brown gif!

    • MsSula

      She needs to understand that the world does not revolve around her navel. Yeesh.

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        She is representative of a lot of red state YOUTH. I don’t understand how the Bernie Bros/Chapo Trap House guys are going to appeal to her economic self interest. She’s not interested in improving her lot in life. Apparently her god isn’t strong enough to operate among heathens and infidels. Very un-Christlike

        Not that I haven’t seen this in my literal community. But when cats wise up, they’re already here.

        • BM, Superman

          Chapo Trap is garbage so she ain’t missing much.

    • Cheech

      In the W admin, that resume would have gotten her a front office position at DOJ. She should send one to Sessions.

    • JulianWithTheRedCorvette

      The girl in that story needs to get over herself.

    • Val

      She never heard of Liberty college? Those are her peoples.

      • Oluseyi

        Oral Roberts? Brigham Young?

        There’s a bunch of institutions specifically established to protect these delicate conservative Christian sensitivities. Don’t go to Party Central U and be mad that Sunday morning church attendance is low.

      • conlakappa

        Or the school geared for the home schooled? Is Bob Jones U still open?

    • LadySiriboe

      And so?!

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        The black impact is that our “allies” are abandoning us for people who hate the mere idea of Thai food.

        With that in mind, knowing that a lot of my quinoa eating/NY Times reading/bike sharing comrades are mulling this over,
        – new strategies to wake them up
        – new Jim Crow survival strategies

        • LadySiriboe

          You don’t eat quinoa?

          • Brooklyn_Bruin

            Cornmeal porridge

            • Tam

              You can not admit to eating porridge on this forum

              • cedriclathan

                Right! Grounds for expulsion.

            • LadySiriboe

              Too rich my dude.

    • Diego Duarte

      As someone replied in a tweet about a conservative afraid to speak his views in college because he was afraid they might be viewed negatively: “LGBT and POC are afraid to leave their house because they might get murdered.”

      Fuck her feelings.

    • BrothasKeeper

      Po’ baby. I hope she doesn’t think the black olives are too “icky”. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/253eec4dbc583859f42c80ef80c87543d4557261748f45e3c04b2d709df7049a.gif

  • Mary Burrell

    Why is Ray Lewis speaking he is in no position to give anyone any kind of advice he who beat his wife senseless on an elevator? Ray Lewis needs to STFU.

    • Epsilonicus

      That was Ray Rice. Rat Lewis beat a murder charge

      • Oluseyi

        “Rat Lewis.” Freudian slip?

        • cedriclathan

          It works.

        • Epsilonicus

          Very Freudian lol

      • Mary Burrell

        Thank you I should have read the article before posting. I stand corrected.

    • Brother Mouzone

      Ray “Sir stab-a-lot” Lewis figures he can parlay his negativity towards Kap into a coaching gig, like Michael Vick just did.

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