There You Go Telling Me No Again.

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For today’s edition of Friday Fun I thought I’d really have fun with this.  Two Friday’s ago we had a freestyle battle and that was entertaining but everybody doesn’t have rap skills.  But you know what everybody does have?

An opinion.  Let us begin.

By now, most of you realize that I’m a big music person.  I litter posts with numerous musical references and wonder who will pick them up.  I have named a good percentage of each of my posts using song titles.  And it seems that a good majority of our commenters (and probably lurkers alike..we’ll test this today) have an affinity for music.  My affinity for music has led to some of the most climactic debates of all time.  On my old blog I actually decided to take on the age old question of:

What’s the best Jodeci song of all time?

I took that question to the streets of DC and got all kinds of responses.  I think that “Freek-N-U” is the best Jodeci song of all time but I got nearly every song in their catalog at least once though I’m pretty sure that “Come and Talk To Me” prevailed (though an argument could be made for any of the first 6 songs on Diary of A Mad Band).  I’d actually like your take on that, but that’s not what today’s debate is going to be about.

Oh no.  We’re going to Debo that one and take it a step further.  You see, The Champ and I have decided to make this here blog relationship-centric.  And despite the myriad explanations of us gangsta’s on this site about how we refuse to pander to the p***y, the fact is, 99 percent of us are tricking, and the other 1 percent doesn’t even realize it.  By the way, there’s a 100 percent margin of error on that last statistic.

Even though me and the rest of the men on this site are some straight G’s, the R&B world has been littered with men who were much less than G’s – men who would get down on bended knee when their river ran dry and proclaimed that they’d make love to you, how you want them too.  Hell, they’d even hold you tight, all through the night.

You know who I’m talking about – the begging arse ninjas who couldn’t help but to give women the sun, the rain, the stars, the moon, and the mountains.  Which led me to this question:

Who was the most begging arse ninja out there?

The easy money is on Keith Sweat but truly, I’m not sure if that’s accurate.  Babyface was one begging mofo.  Hell, do you REMEMBER the words to the song “Ready or Not”?  Or what about “When Can I See You Again?”

Aaron Hall?  He was a beggar too.  Coincidentally, he begged R. Kelly for his style back but R. Kelly just pissed on him.

Zing!

Johnny Gill?  Gay, but a beggar nonetheless.  Hell, New Edition were all some begging dudes.  Is this the end?  Yes Ralph, it was.

To tell the truth, the entire male R&B genre of the late 80’s and early 90’s was an ode to men who just couldn’t get enough of that good lovin’ and didn’t care who knew about it.  Sensitivity, anyone?

So there it is ladies and gentlemen, for today’s edition of Friday Fun, who was the most begging arse singer?  Lay out the argument.  All of you are music aficionados today.  Put some Lisa Lisa & The Cult Jam on your iPod, max and relax, tap into your music selection of the glory years and put somebody on blast.

Dom dom didday!

And while we’re at it…what IS the best Jodeci song?

I fully expect lurkers to chime in today.  You have an opinion.  Sharing is caring.

(And by the way, Bobby Brown’s Don’t Be Cruel is the best R&B album EVER with the only possible arguments being Michael Jackson’s Thriller and Off The Wall, though I consider them straight pop albums.  You can argue with me on this, but you will be wrong.)

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P

PS Happy 3-day weekend for those who get Columbus Day off.  Yay gov’t employment.

563 thoughts on “There You Go Telling Me No Again.”

  1. Tangle Jig, I’m gonna need you to watch yourself when speaking of New Edition. That is, unless you want me to windmill on yo’ a$$ the next time I see you in the streets.

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  2. Damn. This is a hard one. I’m a maverick so I’m not following the rules. I’m gonna talk directly to the people.

    My beggin-est group isn’t a group at all. It’s most rappers from the Cool C to…well I don’t know. But I think it was right around Cool C–as I recall–where men started listing what they had (Translation: the material things they thought would make them more attractive to women who’d normally never look at them once, let alone twice). I call it Jedi-Beggin’. It’s basically saying, “Please look at me. I got keys to a new car and a ‘diamelle’ in my ear and a Hey-Suese piece ’round my neck.”

    Cool C went so hard with it that his ass ended up in jail. For what? Stealing. Why? After the rap career went south (this in no way means it ever went north), he needed a way to get women to sleep with him. But he had no funky dividends so he robbed a bank (or was it a store–google it). He went to jail on the Jedi-Beggin’ tip. That’s the ultimate price right there!

    For all you Joe Six Packs playing a drinking game: MAVERICK!

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  3. I have a couple of questions myself.

    **Am I the only one who ever wanted to poke Aaron Neville’s mole with a stick, like Austin Powers did to “Mole”?

    **Does A. Neville still wear them extra shmedium lycra and viscose shirts that show his nipplage at the right temperature?

    **Has the stock of activator dropped since the 90s?? ALL them dudes were rocking the h*ck outta s-curls.

    **Has anyone seen Jo-Jo lately? Homeboy is on that tooth-loosening diet. *Sigh* No one made him watch “The Corner” huh? *The More That Mofo NEEDS to Know* (No Shooting Star. Just a puff of smoke)

    **Did anyone else want to slice their veins with a butter knife when listening to Keith Sweat for more than 5 mins. That nasal voice was sooo irritating.

    **Did Ginuwine stop using Prostyl gel to slick down his baby hair yet?

    THESE, my people, are the important questions I’d like to know.

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    • I will FOREVER be angry w/Ginuwine about that brown gel’d down baby hair and the way he chose to spell his stage name. Just…ewww.

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    • This

      **Does A. Neville still wear them extra shmedium lycra and viscose shirts that show his nipplage at the right temperature?

      and this

      **Has the stock of activator dropped since the 90s?? ALL them dudes were rocking the h*ck outta s-curls.

      and this

      **Did Ginuwine stop using Prostyl gel to slick down his baby hair yet?

      had me laughing so hard my head hurts…

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    • **Did Ginuwine stop using Prostyl gel to slick down his baby hair yet?

      I don’t know. But I do know (suspect) that Mc Brains and Ginuwine are the same. Has anyone ever seen them on the same stage?? Exactly!!!

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      • I can’t believe you dug up MC Brains! Me and my girls had a dance routine to that damn oochie coochie song for a school talent show once. How they let us on the stage with that foolishness I still do not know. *laughing and hanging head in shame*

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        • shyt mc brains brainstorming is one of the best joints eva!!!! so you wanna be loved by me.. my name is mc BEEEE…..LMAO

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            • that HAS to be a joke. it didnt even show up on vh1′s greatest hip-hop songs of all time. and we KNOW that vh1 knows what they’re talking about!

              i mean, they had pete rock and cl smooth’s “t.r.o.y.” at like 90 or something. and we all know that missy songs are way better than that which is why she was so high up on the list.

              viva la vh1.

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              • I didn’t catch the list. But if they didn’t have the Lost Boyz “Renee”, then it probably shouldn’t be trusted.

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      • You know what? A friend from another forum I visit has the same theory as you do Hostess. I really think ya’ll might be right…lol

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    • **Has anyone seen Jo-Jo lately? Homeboy is on that tooth-loosening diet. *Sigh* No one made him watch “The Corner” huh? *The More That Mofo NEEDS to Know* (No Shooting Star. Just a puff of smoke)

      ***looking side-eyed at corner security for letting luvvie out***

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  4. PBG I gots some Diva Dust for you. I like your style.

    Hmmmm…. Begging singer(s)

    Its hard to choose, they all begged so much. I’d have to throw Dru Hill out there. Remember “Tell Me”? Complete with that crazy jump-dance. Were they aerobicizing?

    Oh yeah. Let’s not forget about Silk, Mint Condition, Goodfellas, Portrait, and those guys who sang “Tell Me Where You Want Me to Put It. Oh yeah, and one hit wonder Rome….

    Beggars all…

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  5. I cannot think of another song while I’m already listening to something else. I’m listening to Sweet Honey In The Rock (compiling some music for work) and that is so far removed from this blog topic. As soon as I finish w/this, I guess I’ll come w/a decent opinion on the topic @ hand.

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  6. Hmmm….now all i can think about is lisa lisa and the beggin’ @ss, jheri curl wearing mofo’s in full force beggin’ in i wonder if i take you home. and that damn pink jumpsuit…and keith sweat performing at the zulu ball (my NO folks know what I’m talking about–big deal back home) and good and grown @ss women losing their minds like it was 1989.

    Best Jodeci song though? trying but i’m tired and it’s late. I’ll go by album cause i can’t pick one right now…I’m still waiting, cry for you and luv u 4 life.

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  8. OK, the best Jodeci song is “My Heart Belongs To You”. IMHO.

    And I think Babyface may be the begging-est singer from back in the day. I had to go look and listen to a few songs but umm….let’s just point like half of “Tender Lover”. In particular that song “Given A Chance”. I LOVED this song (whole tape for real…yes, I had it on tape: “19 9-0, junior year @ Dunbar High, the Sony Walkman was rockin’ and PBG was mad fly”) but this was a beggin’ a$$ song. He was gonna make it up to her, ya heard???

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  9. -Most begging-est crooners is LSG, collectively and individually.
    Levert*, Sweat, Gill, or as I shall call them the “Begging fo’ a$$ Trifecta”

    -The best Jodeci song for me is “Feenin’” and funny that it was foreshadowing the cracktivity that has ensued with the Hailey clan.

    *RIP Gerald

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  10. Props to Alise, I wanted to be the first; FEENIN is the best Jodeci song hands down. Enough said.

    It’s too late (early?) for me to get intellectual about beggin’ r&b singers. I’ll have to think about it.

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  11. I write this as I sit here and listen to the most begginist (yeah I said it) song of all time.

    “Because I Love You”~ Lenny Williams

    it will be followed by one of VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P’s favorite artist, Mr. Donny Hathaway

    I Love You More Than You’ll Ever Know~Donny Hathaway

    then the begging will continue with

    Just to Be Close To You~Commodores

    I think I’m going to make me a beggers playlist on itunes…

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    • aww yeah I forgot Lionel Ritchie was a begging a$$ ninja.. and you gotta throw in all the motown era groups.. temptation.. aint to proud to beg? I wishi it would rain?.. harold melvin and blue notes if you dont know me? the love I lost? and the most beggin…Miss you?

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    • I don’t know why people are still posting responses now that Lenny Williams has been mentioned. With his seal-sounding self.

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        • that song was 10+ minutes of begging. this brotha stopped singing and went into a straight monologue:

          “Hmm, hmm
          Hmm…hmm…mmm…
          You know
          One time things got so bad until
          I had to go to one of my friends and talk to him
          And I told him, I said, “You know
          I’m having problems with the woman that I love
          It seems that I call her on the phone and I just can’t get her to answer
          And then I went to her house and I saw a car parked in the driveway
          I knocked on the door, but still my knocks went unanswered
          And then I went home and I-I watched television until television went off
          And then I played my records until I just didn’t want to hear them anymore
          And finally I went to bed, but I found myself waking up a few hours later
          And the tears were running down my face”
          And my friend told me, he said, “Lenny,
          You just oughta forget about her”
          But I told my friend, I said, “You know
          Maybe you’ve never been in love like I’ve been in love
          And maybe you’ve never felt the things that I’ve felt”
          But this is what I told my friend
          I said, “You know, sometimes you get lonely
          You get lonely, you get lonely”
          Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
          And I cry, I cry
          Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
          And the tears would fill up in the wells
          In the wells of my eyes, aww baby
          And then it got so bad, it got so bad
          Till one time I thought I’d roll myself up in a big ol’ ball and die
          And then I met you, darlin’
          And you smiled at me
          Oh, oh, it was such a pretty smile, yes, it was
          And you reached out your hand
          You helped me (Helped), you helped me (Helped me), you helped, oh
          I’m glad, baby, I’m glad, baby
          Oh, oh, oh, baby, ey, ey, ey
          I won’t ever leave you, baby
          I won’t ever grieve you, baby
          I’m gonna love you, oh, oh, oh, baby”

          … i think we have a winner

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      • “I don’t know why people are still posting responses now that Lenny Williams has been mentioned. With his seal-sounding self.”

        seriously. they can make r&b music for the next 2000 years and nothing would beat that song

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    • I Love You More Than You’ll Ever Know~Donny Hathaway

      donny wasn’t begging…he was spilling his soul. lol. there’s a difference.

      RIP…to the window, then you fall….

      i’m SO going to Hell for that one.

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  13. My first R&B casette i ever owned was Keith Sweat “Mke It Last Forever” and didn’t really know as a child that I was singing rape carols, case and point: “You say no, I say yes, girl I bet I can make you sweat”

    and stalker carols:
    “Seen you last night, saw you standing there, couldn’t picture the color of your hair, all I wanted to know is were you really there………. i want her!”

    and dirty old man carols
    “I wanna love you down, all the way down, baby,touch me, girl, ooh, touch me, honey,don’t stop, don’t stop, don’t stop, baby, no, no”

    dang keith we gotta keep an eye on your Sportin’ waves a$$….

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  15. I agree with anyone who says that “My Heart Belongs to You” is the best of Jodeci songs, if only for the sick beat. DeVante was way ahead of his time on his production skills. In regards to “Feenin”, I don’t know why, but I always blush when DeVante says “Hit me. All the chronic in the world couldn’t even mess with you. You’re the ultimate high.” That probably shouldn’t speak to my soul, but it does.

    Blackstreet stayed beggin. They sounded good, but theybegged. “Don’t Leave”, “Before I let you Go”, “Let’s Stay in Love”, “Baby be mine”.

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    • I agree with anyone who says that “My Heart Belongs to You” is the best of Jodeci songs, if only for the sick beat. DeVante was way ahead of his time on his production skills. In regards to “Feenin”, I don’t know why, but I always blush when DeVante says “Hit me. All the chronic in the world couldn’t even mess with you. You’re the ultimate high.” That probably shouldn’t speak to my soul, but it does.

      Girl..me too… me too……

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    • “Blackstreet stayed beggin. They sounded good, but theybegged. “Don’t Leave”, “Before I let you Go”, “Let’s Stay in Love”, “Baby be mine”.”

      I loved that Blackstreet CD. It was my favorite for a very long time.

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    • “In regards to “Feenin”, I don’t know why, but I always blush when DeVante says “Hit me. All the chronic in the world couldn’t even mess with you. You’re the ultimate high.” That probably shouldn’t speak to my soul, but it does.”

      That part speaks to more than my soul, homie.

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  17. on to the question at hand.. the begginest ninja of all times is Crying Lenny… I mean he watched t.v. until the t.v. went off .. I mean when he told his friend… Maybe you’ve never been in love like I been in love..and maybe youve never felt the things that I felt..but guess what? It gets lonely sometimes…….

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      • but remember when TV used to actually go off, at about midnight with the America nature scenes and flag and patriotic music in the background?

        Hell to the yes.. i remember when BET was only a channel from like 10a.m until video soul went off…..

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        • lol. we didn’t have cable for a while so when tv went off, it was off for real. fade to black with the white dot.

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      • Was I the only kid who got scared as HELLZ when TV went off?? That would spook me the eff out! That and the music to “Perry Mason”.

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    • Can I state for the record that that is the realest exchange in r&b song conversation history! I crack up every time I hear it just imagining that convo.

      Lenny: “sniff…mayne I miss her so muuuuch” (bawls)
      Friend: I can’t BELIEVE this ninja calling me again at 15 o’clock in the morning with this bull…AGAIN…”Lenny, you know, I mean, maybe you should just get over it. You just oughta forget about her!”
      Lenny: (bass in voice) “You know, MAYBE YOU AINT NEVA BEEN IN LUUUUVE LIKE I BEEN IN LUUUV!..blahblahblah”
      Friend: *Eyeroll* *look at watch*

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  18. Loved this, Panama. Here’s part of one my many playlists on Napster:

    Lenny Williams – Cause I Love You
    Jesse Powell – Invisible Man; If I; Is It Over
    Dru Hill – I Should Be; In My Bed
    Aaron Hall – If You Leave Me; I Miss You
    Dave Hollister – Don’t Take My Girl Away
    Petey Pablo – Fool For Love
    Aaron Neville – Your Precious Love
    Anthony Hamilton – Don’t Say What You Won’t Do
    Harvey Fuqua & Etta James – If I Can’t Have You
    Bill Withers – Ain’t No Sunshine
    John Legend w/ Snoop Dogg- I Can Change

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    • “Petey Pablo – Fool For Love”

      lol…reading that list and seeing this was like reading the “what doesnt belong” section in highlights magazine

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      • awww i remember that magazine! my nephews read it now and i think they all could beat me at most of the “games”.

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  19. aww we cant forget beggin a$$ brian mcknight….never felt this way? One last cry and that was before the Anytime album….

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  20. and James brown.. Please..Please Please, please, please, please me (You don’t have to go)
    Baby please, baby please, please me You don’t have to go,Baby please, baby please don’t go (You don’t have to go) Don’t go, I said baby, don’t baby I love you so
    I love you so

    and Al Green for the good times, lets stay together, love and happiness….

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  21. aww and you cant forget.. al b Shu-ure…..who needs to stop hitting me up on myspace talking about his cruise line

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    • al b. sure! has a cruise line?!?! what’s the name of it? this info must be made public.

      off on your own girl was my ish (back when i was like 8)….in effect mode is still in constant rotation, i can’t even front.

      if i’m not your lover, if i’m not your friend….

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      • mannnnn, i used to fux with al b. to this day my mama will not let me live it down. everynow and then she loves to bring out a story about me as a kid standing in front of the tv watching the nite and day video saying, mama i like it when he goes “woo” maybe today that’s why I can’t stand it when singers make that damn sound in the middle of a song. lol.

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  22. And by the way, Bobby Brown’s Don’t Be Cruel is the best R&B album EVER with the only possible arguments being Michael Jackson’s Thriller and Off The Wall, though I consider them straight pop albums. You can argue with me on this, but you will be wrong.)

    This right here is when I knew me and my husband were made for each other..when I looked in his cd case and he not only owned do Dont Be Cruel..but Dance-ya know it..the remixes? Plus every Michael Jackson joint of all times….my eyes watered and my heart swelled 10x like the grinch when he heard the singing after he had stolen all the food and presents…..

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    • don’t be cruel is….is….magical

      i said my first curse word because of that cd (it’s my prerogative, the “and i don’t give a damn, getting girls is how i live”). wasn’t smart to sing it loud as hell in the bathroom. my mom was waiting on the other side….with a switch

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  23. okay this is it and then I am going to bed begginest groups.. Surface-shower me with your love?
    Ready for the world-gently, love you down, Can he do it-
    Atlantic Star

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    • I hit submit before I could name my last two Shai-comfort, if I ever fall in love, come with me
      troop-all I do is think of you

      Those some beggin a$$ songs right there

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  24. Best Jodeci song – Come and talk to me..* i think thats the name of it* OOOOO yeah!… -jo jo with the lip vibrations! lol

    Man- Keith Sweat was the ULTIMATE whiner…man his voice is like nails on the chalkboard..makes my teeth grind just thinkin about it.

    Woman- Stacy Lattisaw…(what u know bout dat) lawds her voice put my butt over the edge..i was ready to hurt someone when i heard her screeching “Let me be your annnnnngelllllllll…..let me be the oneeee for youuuuuuu!!” or “I found lovvvvee on a two way streeetttt…”

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  25. F*ck R&B…that’s too easy. ANY rapper who say’s “it ain’t trickin’ if you got it” is THE most simpin’ n*gga out there.

    Period.

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    • Monk says it best cause it’s dam sure tricking even if u got it. trying to rationalize that shi*t doesn’t make u any less a cake mama/daddy trying to buy favor. at least admit the sh*t to urself and let it be what it is.

      now the begginest nicra ever in r & b was and is Babyface.

      i’ll fix ur car, draw ur bathwater, wipe ur arse, lick ur toes soon as I get home from work. wtf! nicra what?

      best Jodeci song is a 3 way tie betwinxt,

      freakin u
      come and talk to me
      feenin

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          • Nat says:

            “[khan] …get on up’ and ’stay’ for a little while….”

            yep. word. thanks for the love Alise.

            i send the thee caresses. nibbles ur neck.

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        • sup Hedo. going to merrland huh? i may have to hit up upper marlboro soon. they calling for me. my friends that is.

          ya know i miss talking greasy to the soft and sweets of vsb. too. enjoy ur holiday. be safe.

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      • Yeah Babyface did simp out quite often but Jodeci said…and I quote:
        “Take my money, my house AND my car. For one hit of you; you can have it ALL”

        Come on now…that is doing the most.

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        • Treasure Jodeci made it a hot line in a hot song and although Jodeci has done their share of begging Babyface made albums and albums full of begging azz songs. …a veritable career of azz kissin and wuss baggery.

          i always got the feeling that Jodeci was just saying anything to get the ladies wett but that Face might actually believe and do the sh*t he said in his songs.

          anyways have any cats ever offered u the world for some attention? just wondering?

          enjoy ur weekend babe.

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          • “i always got the feeling that Jodeci was just saying anything to get the ladies wett but that Face might actually believe and do the sh*t he said in his songs.”

            I agree with this.

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          • Oh yeah, lots of outlandish things have been offered. lol…I won’t even begin to go down the list. lol…Some of those offers may have been better if they had been crooned to me in the melodic “quiver lip” Jodeci fashion though. lol

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            • Treaj my lip is quivering right now but not in any way to aid my begging. its quivering at the thought of whats being offered. we already know for what? but *dam*. go ahead, share. what manner of loot is being offered for a “Treasure?” …and what fortunes lie in wait for the victor?

              spoil urself

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          • “anyways have any cats ever offered u the world for some attention? just wondering?”

            of all the beggin @$$ stalkers i’ve had in the last 2 years, none of those sorry MFers offered me much more than themselves and a nice dinner. seriously?? just no kinda game or gimmick.

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        • “Take my money, my house AND my car. For one hit of you; you can have it ALL”

          He was singing to crack, for real. He had originally wanted to call it “Ode to Crack”, but the record company wanted to go in another direction.

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    • Notice in the past year, the phrase “it ain’t trickin if you got it” has been used in songs by Lil Wayne, T Pain, Ludacris, and TI.

      Using deductive reasoning I have to conclude that proud tricking is a southern thing.

      To further my point, ni99as up north are making songs like “suck it or not”, and “I don’t take ‘em out to eat, i don’t let ‘em trick or treat, I AIN’T HEARD OF THAT!” (excellent beat by the way)

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      • “To further my point, ni99as up north are making songs like “suck it or not”, and “I don’t take ‘em out to eat, i don’t let ‘em trick or treat, I AIN’T HEARD OF THAT!” (excellent beat by the way)”

        In defense of my southern brethren…

        Nas – You Owe Me
        Jay – Excuse Me Miss, Anything (trickin’ song with Usher)
        Not to mention LL Cool J… the hip hop version of beggin’ arse r&b ninjas

        I Ain’t Heard of That is a Slim Thug song by the way…

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  27. Leave it to me to go the other way with this one, but I always liked that Profyle song, “I Think You Better Leave”. That was a nice anti-begging song, especially toward the end when one of the dudes sings “the get the f on”. That song cracks me up just thinking about it.

    As far as Jodeci is concerned I’ll go with the unplugged “Lately” also the K-Ci “If You Think Your Lonely Now” joint. I suppose I like them best when they do it old school, Stevie and Bobby respectively. “Cry for You” was nice too and allows me to answer both questions at once.

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  28. Christopher Williams? now that was a beggin’ *ss dude! but thats when you ladies were giving light skinded brothers the time of day. I think after he got his hand skewered to the table in New Jack City, yall gave up on us.

    pretty mutha f**ka!
    Nino Brown

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    • “I think after he got his hand skewered to the table in New Jack City, yall gave up on us.”

      this made me giggle

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  30. The best Jodeci song is Feenin’, Forever My Lady & Lately.

    The best begging ninja is hands down Keith Sweat–and I don’t know too many women who would have turned his butt down either.

    Don’t be talking about New Edition. They weren’t beggers, they were lovers…lol

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  31. P, your choice in the best De La CD was downright disturbing,but I’m with you on this one! Bobby Brown (pre-crack,pre-Whitney)was the official issue. I fight with my co-workers DAILY over this. No other singer has that many hits on one CD ‘cept MJ, Teddy Riley’s best work…these two things alone make Bobby Brown the undisputed King of R & B.

    Yeah, I said it!….WHAT?Ha!

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  32. I ain’t too proud to beg and I ain’t ashamed that female singers and even Diva’s Beg cause when the gettin is good its worth beggin for…

    If I Were Your Woman ~Gladys Knight

    No Me Ames~Jennifer Lopez and Marc Anthony
    (what you know about that)

    Do You Still Love Me ~ Mel’isa Morgan

    Why ~ Annie Lennox

    and the list would not be complete without

    If Only You Knew ~ the Diva herself Miss Patti LaBelle

    there are more, but this is just what I been listening to while I’m packing for my road trip…

    I might be back

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    • Hedo i do so love this attitude:

      “I ain’t too proud to beg and I ain’t ashamed that female singers and even Diva’s Beg cause when the gettin is good its worth beggin for…”

      not enough women do this when they are feeling it. (the good and healthy kind of begging) believe it or no the khan has done a lil begging here and there. …and i have certainly been on the receiving end of a few beggars. did i oblidge? sometimes yes. many times no? generally begging is not a good look when there is real “seeking of approval” to make urself feel acceptable. desire and intent yes. seeking approval from someone else that determines ur own self acceptance: nope.

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  33. Hostess,

    “MAVERICK!” sounds like something you shout whilst throwing down the highest trump card in a game of bid whist or any game in which you commence to spanking someone’s a$$ real bad.

    Example: “MAVERICK!… That’s game b!tch.”

    I digress…

    Joe is the begginest R&B cat out there. “All The Things Your Man Won’t Do” followed by at least 3 songs in which he proceeded to coax some chick away from her current man guaranteed him a top spot on this here countdown.

    And the best Jodeci song?… That’s like asking me to choose a favorite child… of course I do have one.

    “U&I” (Forever My Lady) is the best Jodeci song. There will be no arguments. It simply is. And if you don’t know it then you are not a true fan of the Brothers DeGrate and Hailey.

    Honorable Mentions (I love ALL my kids)…

    “Come & Talk to Me”(Hip-Hop Remix) was the best remix

    “Lately” the live version from Uptown unplugged was the best live performance (except you know seeing them in concert)

    “Feenin’” (Diary of a Mad Band) is probably the most popular Jodeci song. Ever.

    “Ride & Slide” (Diary of a Mad Band) had the “Devante Solo”

    “S-More” (The Show, The After Party, The Hotel) is a personal favorite. I could go on but I’m being paid to direct my attentions elsewhere.

    Good Day.

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  34. Two things P.
    1. Don’t forget to pay homage when jockin Dorian G. (yeah). A simple “(c)” would be nice. And also whats really good with this happy hour though?
    2. This is the easiest question y’all have ever asked. Check it

    - This dude was always admittedly single and lonely
    - This dude was very satisfied begging not just to any female to other’s ni99as girls
    - This dude admittedly was ok doing all the nasty sex slave things that the other man won’t do
    - He was such a lame that he wasn’t even invited into the Best Man quartet (which included some real lames like Case)

    This man of course is Joe.
    Post.Over.

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  36. We should play name that Jodeci lyric. I’ll start.

    “Let’s do some freaky $h!t and then I’ll make you come.”

    The first person to give me the name of the song and the album it’s on wins absolutely nothing. Not even my affections. But you’ll have fun in the process.

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  37. Let me preface this by saying GERALD LEVERT is/was MY NINJA. I loved loved loved that man (even though there was a rumor that he was creeping with Carl Winslow).

    Anywho, Gerald Levert had the begging game d@mn near on lock….Baby Hold on To Me – Wasn’t he there when THAT ONE made you cry?? Mr. Too D@mn Good put out Applications n sh*t looking for a new love. Let’s not forget Already Missin you – ol girl had bags packed with one foot out the door. He tried to stop her @ss like “Wait a minute, wait 1 d@mn minute. I miss you baby, even though you haven’t gone yet”.

    ** As I sit here and wipe a tear away. The memories….oh sweet memories. I miss my homie

    Anywho – BEST Jodeci song, damn this is hard. Ima go with 4evermyladyfreaknyouloveu4life

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  38. Speaking of Keith Sweat – here’s a joke

    VRENEE: Did yall her about what happened to Keith Sweat

    VSB Crew: Naw, what happened?

    VRENEE: He was in a plane crash

    VSB Crew: (Gasping) No I didn’t hear that

    VRENEE: Yeah the plane went down and they only found his head but NO -BODY (in a singsong voice)

    VSB Crew: Booooooo Get her off the stage, not funny

    VRENEE: Forget yall, that sh*t was funny

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  40. You guys beat me to the punch on the R&B cats, but lets do some rappers:

    - Biz Markie: You really gonna plead about how she has what you need even though some dude is tounge-kissing your girl in the mouth? I’m sure you can find another broad in 9/10 pants and a very big bra.

    -LL Cool J: I need love, hey lover, Luv U Better…all that lovin, I’m surprised you can still walk properly.

    -Chingy: Okay, you’re only one call away. But when you answer the phone, all I heard was, “How you dooooooin?”

    -Ja Rule: ……

    And Jodeci favorite? Man…this all comes down to the 3 (of many, lol) sides of 8th.

    Freak 8th: Feenin
    Lovey Dovey 8th: Love U 4 Life
    Baby baby please come back 8th: Cry For you

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    • - Biz Markie: You really gonna plead about how she has what you need even though some dude is tounge-kissing your girl in the mouth? I’m sure you can find another broad in 9/10 pants and a very big bra.

      ***guffawing***

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  41. Carl T. has a song called “The Babymaker” it matters not that his voice is only so-so. The R&B market is flooded with so-so voices. He had the forsight to make a song strictly for the purpose of babymaking which makes him an R&B genius.

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  42. Well let’s not forget about Tevin Campbell. He was a major beggar. This fool started dreaming, writing letters, and talking like a baby just from seeing homeboy homegirl once. I don’t know about you, but that’s just a little too much for me. So Can we talk? No. “Tell me what you want me to do,” you say? Uhm…go Round and Round away.thanks.

    Oh, and Forever My Lady is that bidness! Though, Feenin can get it, too. Eh…it’s a toss-up between those two for me.

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      • I’ve been reading though the zillion comments on here, giggling all the way cause NO ONE had mentioned Tevin Campbell, yet. Darn it, I just knew I was on to something. TEVIN CAMPBELL HAS TO BE IT! Really? Tell me what you want me to do, all before he even before he ever got some (from a man or a woman, but whatever). Begging before you even really know why you should be begging is to me the ULTIMATE beggar. (BTW, I still rock his music in heavy rotation on my Ipod)

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  43. Can I just say that in honor of the moment, I’m bumping Forever My Lady as we speak and the intro to the B-Side (I had the tape first) sounds eerily similar to MBJ’s Can’t Live Without You…

    Coincidence? I don’t believe in them.

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  44. Bilal has a song called “When Will You Call” that is a begging anthem if I ever did hear one, if you are not familiar here is a snippet of the lyrics:

    “3 in the morn’ tossing and turning it’s late.
    Just can’t rest waiting for the phone to ring.
    Will you call ring my phone girl
    I hope you did not forget me
    I can’t sleep and I can’t eat and I won’t until I hear your voice
    When will you call?”

    She must of had that gotdamn.

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        • ok… maybe not all, how about 60%
          “When Will You Call”
          “For You”
          “Sometimes”
          “Queen of Sanity” not technically a “begging” song but definitely a whining song… my ish – but he’s whining
          if i can think of another reason why i’ll get back… i don’t have the album infront of me but it’s definitely begging and whining… of a high quality… but it is what it is.

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  45. Keith Sweat, hands down was the biggest begging dude out there. His style alone was like begging no matter what he was singing. I put Tevin Campbell as a close second.

    Sh*t, what about Silk, Shai, and H-Town, they were begging too. The entire new jack swing era was a beg-a-thon.

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    • H-Town… wowwww i almost forgot about them. i will never forget the day my mom took me to the store and i bought the “Knockin The Boots” cassette single. i was a bit disturbed when she fell in love with the song too and sang it around the house. *smh* and people wonder why i’m so scarred…

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    • “The entire new jack swing era was a beg-a-thon.”

      *sigh* You right, you right. *browses CD collection, realizes there’s not ONE song out of hundreds without the words “baby” and “please”*

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  46. Official lurker cheking in….. my 2 cents….Babyface by a landslide. “Soon as I Get Home”…….digusting

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  48. IMHO both the worst and the most begginest ni99a in R&B is Mario Winans. He should have stayed a producer and never started singing. He shamed his family name by suckin so much.

    This man had 3 hits and 2 of em were begging for a girl and the other one was begging a girl not tell him how she been touchin skins w/ another dude.

    And the best Jodeci song is…….

    When they were on Martin. They were singing Lately on the Vernel Hill Show and Martin jumped in and started singing with them. Anyone who doesnt think Martin had the best verse is a clown.

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    • Yeah, “I don’t wanna know” was by far one of the most pathetic songs EVER, lol. It used to hurt my soul to listen to it.

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    • “When they were on Martin. They were singing Lately on the Vernel Hill Show and Martin jumped in and started singing with them. Anyone who doesnt think Martin had the best verse is a clown.”

      thank you for this memory. that was a GREAT episode!! Martin with his wife-b and saggin pants lmao hilairous

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    • When they were on Martin. They were singing Lately on the Vernel Hill Show and Martin jumped in and started singing with them. Anyone who doesnt think Martin had the best verse is a clown.

      LMBAO!!! I loved that episode. I think I have it recorded on the DVR. I WILL be watching it tonight!

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      • LOL!!!!!! That Varnell Hill episode is ridiculous. Definitely in the top 5 Martin episodes.

        “Oooohhhh!!!! I’m a man of many wishes…I hope my Gina does the dishes!!!”

        I gotta watch that this weekend.

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  50. Old school -
    1. Lenny Williams did sing the most begginist song ever…Intellectual Hedonist is correct.
    2. Phyllis Hyman – I Don’t Want to Lose You. ILOVE her but we all know the lady had some issues with men.

    New school -
    1. In the current era, Robin Thicke takes a close second with his song Lost Without You. I swear he sounds like the neediest man ever plus it is in falsetto so it is less effective.
    2. Jennifer Hudson singing And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going. I know that it’s Jennifer Holiday’s song but J Hud put her foot in it like no other. I’ll give them both credit for the beggin.

    Beggin Group-
    In terms of an overall group that has made a career of beggin, I’ll go with Silk for four reasons.
    1. Most of their songs are girl, please, girl would you, etc.
    2. Their lead singer sings so hard and extra all the time. He is so sincere with his begging.
    3. After making five beggin albums, they released an album where they are singing other people’s beggin songs.
    4. Silk was discovered by Keith Sweat.

    I rest my case. (dropping mic like Mr. Randy Watson in Coming to America.)

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    • lmao…

      1st about Phyllis Hyman – she was from pgh and my dad used knew her. I know her neice… they are all a little touched.

      2nd- the mic drop is classic. i just listened to Silk.

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  51. “Xs We Share” is also a winner.

    “Let’s plan the day to go out at night.” – That was a sign. That’s crackhead speak right there.

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  52. maxwell….whenever wherever whatever. one of my favorites songs eva!

    never felt this way-b mcknight. also lifetime fav

    it ain’t over till its over- lenny kravitz

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    • it ain’t over till its over- lenny kravitz

      Man, oh MAN! This is one of my all-time favorite songs! Lenny Kravitz is one s3xy negro.

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  53. Begging @ss lyrics + silky tshirts + “easy listening” arrangement = Brian McKnight

    Do I ever cross your mind, anytime? Do you ever wake up reaching out for me? Do I ever cross your mind, ANYTIME? I miss you?

    Almost gave me diabeetus.

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  54. Jodeci…I miss Jodeci. I took an office poll (asked the Black people in my office about Jodeci favorites) but I didn’t agree with any of their answers. Lol So here are my favorite:
    1. Stay (the live version on the MTV Unplugged cd)

    After scanning Jodeci on my ipod, I’ll list my 2-5…
    2. Freaking You (That song always gets me hot and bothered.)
    3. Alone (It’s not the best, but I like it…then again, I love sappy R&B)
    4. My Heart Belongs to You
    5. You and I

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    • Jodeci…I miss Jodeci. I took an office poll (asked the Black people in my office about Jodeci favorites) but I didn’t agree with any of their answers

      so, ummm, what was the point of the poll?

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  55. (1) though PJ alluded to them in the post, Boyz II Men definitely had some beggin moments. they need to be added to “Beggin @$$ Fools” list. they have so many songs where they’re sing-beggin over each other. for example, “End of the Road”. pain in your head, you’d rather be dead?? you can’t let go?? you knew i was runnin out on you but you don’t care?? seriously, get your life together. immediately.

    (2) i can’t choose between “Freek’n You” and “Forever My Lady” as best Jodeci song. in my mind, they both get the gold medal.

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    • So i know deal breakers was yesterday but i swear ‘fo god if a ni99a could twist his lips in any way to defend R. Kelly’s behavior that would be cause for a quick dismissal… just had to get that offa my chest cause i saw his name…

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  56. “To tell the truth, the entire male R&B genre of the late 80’s and early 90’s was an ode to men who just couldn’t get enough of that good lovin’ and didn’t care who knew about it. Sensitivity, anyone?”

    You know what…those were the good ol days where people could sing all about their love and didn’t care who knew it. People were honest. Now a days, it’s just hit it and quit it. People like R Kelly (although he is so darn catchy) make it seem like you giving them some is doing you a favor. WTF?!? I miss the old days. I am against these R&B changes. Say no to change!

    Disclaimer: I support Barack Obama.

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  57. Teddy P – Come Go With Me

    Begging at its finest (And it worked! in the song anyway – lyrics jacked from some website)

    TP: Come on and go with me.
    Girl: Hm, hm. Hm, hm. No. No, no.
    TP: Come on over to my place.
    Girl: Not tonight, no.
    TP: You see, it’s not far from here.
    Girl: No. I’m leaving.
    TP: It’ll just take a minute, if you think about it.
    Girl: Oh, man.
    TP: Would you just think about it? Think about it, yeah.
    Girl: I’m thinking about it, but I’m gonna have to say no.
    TP: Come on and go with me. Come on over to my place.
    Girl: No. Oh, no.
    TP: You’ve been sitting in here for quite a long time.
    Girl: Yeah, I’m slightly bored. I hate being bored.
    TP: You see, I’ve been watching you.
    Girl: I’ve been doing the same thing.
    TP: I’ve had my eyes on you.
    Girl: I’ve been checking you out all night long.
    TP: You look so nice, and you look so sweet.
    Girl: (laughs) Oh, thank you. That was sweet.
    TP: You look like you ought to be with me.
    Girl: Yeah, but what are you going to do with me? That’s the problem.
    TP: It seems that you feel the same way that I do.
    Girl: I think it would be very interesting.
    TP: It seems that you need some company, too.
    Girl: Hmm. Oh, well.
    TP: Yeah?
    Girl: You said that your car is right out front? Right out front?
    TP: Yeah.

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  58. I think I’m going to start my own war against drugs for killing all the good music.

    I’ll have ads like:

    Words on Screen: “Before”

    Show video clip of artist before drug habit go too bad. (Think K-Ci in ’91)

    Words on Screen: “After”

    Show video clip of artist’s work since drug habit got out of control (Think K-Ci on Who’s got Jokes finale or Jo-Jo at 1:39 – I think we’ve all seen that video by now)

    Words on Screen: “Crack IS Wack”

    Narration: “This message brought to you by Music Fans (MFs) against crack.”

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  59. Okay..so I will come out of hiding again today….Thanks P.

    No one mentioned Anthony Hamilton yet. He wanted Charlene to come on home cause his heart was aching! That man was hurt!!

    And…”no matter what the people say…Im gonna love you anyway…you are my life…I cant let go..”

    Ok..that one made me tear up a little……

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    • true on that Anthony Hamilton – what about ‘I’m A Mess’
      the whole song is begging but dude:
      “…/and the dog cried out
      Knew I was suffering/ he was chained to my pain.”

      even the dog is like get your head up fool.

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        • lol, yep …
          “I Cant Stop Loving You”
          “…somebody tell me why i feel like im dying?/Lord, whats come over me?/Baby cant you see/ I cant stop loving you?”

          why cant he see that apparently the woman has stopped loving him?

          there’s no where to hide
          lol

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  60. p.s. i had the biggest crush on Mr. Dalvin from Jodeci back in the day. when the video for “Love U 4 Life” came out, i wished it was me instead of T-Boz. awwww to be young and silly *sigh*

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  62. I was too young in the 80′s to care and not really paying attention to music during the 90′s. As much as I want to join this conversation, I have nothing to contribute.

    I have missed you guys for the past couple of weeks. (grad school is a killer)

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  64. The most begginest song out there is U2′s “Sweetest Thing.” Homeboy forgets wife’s birthday and proceeds to write this song. “I wanted to run but she made me crawl.” Can’t get any better than that!

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  65. I’m not sure there’s an R&B performer or group that wouldn’t make this ranking. I think it’d be harder to name the least begginest R&B singer of all time.

    Cause I can’t think of one. Not even counting singing a$$ rappers like Ja Rule. He was a beggin’ a$$ chigger too. (And yes I am aware that a chigger is a parasite.)

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  66. ” No one mentioned Anthony Hamilton yet. He wanted Charlene to come on home cause his heart was aching! That man was hurt!!”

    i was going to say Anthony Hamilton….. drats! anywho… i strongly believe the source of his begging was because he couldnt get or keep a woman with all that spoiled, mangled nappy a** taco meat he had chillin on his face. not a good look Ant…. not a good look at all….

    does the Chef from South Park count as a beggar……?

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    • “believe the source of his begging was because he couldnt get or keep a woman with all that spoiled, mangled nappy a** taco meat he had chillin on his face”

      LMAO!!!

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  67. Lurker checking in.

    I don’t know if my previous commented actually posted…

    I’ll put Tank down for an award (Maybe I Deserve, Please Don’t Go).

    BUT Avant takes the cake with “Don’t Take Your Love Away.”

    “I get down on my hands and knees begging you please baby please. Don’t leave me now. I need you here with meeeeeeee.”

    Begging a$$ mf-er.

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      • I used to reenact this song on the regular. This was after a night of drinking (and sometimes sober). What can I say college+liquor = skits

        Maybe I deserve (MID) for me to ask you where you been
        (MID) for you to say I better stop tripping
        (MID) To grab your neck until you let me know
        (MID) for you to run crying, crying out the door
        (MID) to grab my coat and chase you down the street
        (MID) To say it aint you it’s my own insecurity
        (MID) for you to say YES I cheated on you

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        • “college+liquor = skits”

          You should hear me do a mean “Love Under New Management” by Miki Howard, my friends make me do that when drunk, it is the best thing EVER!!! Hand me a hairbrush mic and it is on and popping!

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          • Alise, we need to have a Hairbrush Showcase cuz I tear it down singing “How Do I Ease The Pain” into my old wig brush. I get enough homemade margaritas in me and you can’t tell me I’m not bangin’ those high notes out!

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      • ““Maybe I Deserve” was more on some domestic violence tendencies and sh*t”

        Yeah that fool was like,

        Maybe I deserve…to hit you upside the head with my gat and then pull your arm out the socket right before you left to make love with that other man thus causing me to take your other arm too and slap you with it later…

        I never liked that song.

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        • “Maybe I deserve…to hit you upside the head with my gat and then pull your arm out the socket right before you left to make love with that other man thus causing me to take your other arm too and slap you with it later…”

          i think i just choked on my own laugh

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  68. Ok, I got a beggin’ *ss R&B song. It’s a classic – soulful by one of my favs, but the message contained in the lyrics defy rational thinking in so many ways.

    Ladies and Gents, I present “Use Me Up” by Bill Withers.

    His friends told him, his brother told him and he was so ‘Sunshined’ by this point, he told them that if they knew, they’d wish they were in his shoes.

    He continues, “Sometimes, it’s true, you really do abuse me / You get me in a crowd of high class people and then you act real rude to me”. He goes on to state that it feels good to get “used” up.

    Who begs for someone to “use” them?? Who does that????

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      • Good one Monk…he was completely “gone” over that chick.
        Another old school one I just thought of, “I’m your Puppet”. That one is equally sad.

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  70. Best Jodeci song is “Cry for You.” It’s also the most begging arse song, but that wasn’t the question.

    I don’t know who the most begging singer is/was. I never thought Keith begged as much as he whined, which was even more annoying actually.

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  71. Coming out of lurkville for this one. Loved him to death but Jon B was a begging 90′s dude if there ever was one. I submit “Someone To Love” (with Babyface, of course) and “Pretty Girl” for consideration.

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  72. Don’t be Cruel is a great record. I still have it…along with Dance Ya Know It! (If you know what that is, you’re good, realll good.)

    Okay Best Jodeci song? Hands down. “Cry for You”. C’mon. K-Ci almost had ME wanting to come back to him. Especially that chorus “baby, I’m begging, baby I’m begging, begging baby…” Doesn’t get more beggin’ than that…lol

    My honorable mention is Rome. Yes Rome. Someone tell me I’m not the only one who bought the album. Track #10 “Let Me Come Home”. Listen to that and tell me it doesn’t tug at your heartstrings.

    Keith Sweat, my favorite “How Deep is Your Love?” With lyrical gems like
    “One minute I think you love me, and then next one I think you don’t
    I don’t understand it
    Woo…hoo…ooh… hoo…ooh…ooh…hoo…ooh…ooh…
    I’m just goin’ insane tryin’ to figure you out, baby
    How deep is your love
    I wanna know, you got to tell me, baby”

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  73. Bobby Brown???? I am slitting my wrists in t minus 12.

    The best Jodeci song is “Freek’n You.”

    I think Tank is a beggin’-est, forever messin-upest up man. He needs to write a book on what NOT to do cause he seems to have that part down pat.

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      • Don’t forget “Please Don’t Go” . . . off the last one . . . then the skit after that his girl was gettin it in with another female and some friend of a mutual friend . . . that poor guy.

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  74. I would beg to argue that all of the men on The Secret Garden are classic beggars. Al B. Sure (who I am pretty certain is begging his son Quincy for a dollar), El Debarge (might have been one of the founding fathers of begging), James Ingram (the scary beggar), and Barry White (R.I.P. Beggar)!

    Oh and the Best Jodeci song is Freek’n You! But the remix with Raekwon.

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  75. sidenote… did anyone see the clip of k-ci and jojo performing where jojo passes out on stage and k-ci continues his crackish pelvic girations?

    some funny ish people… now, back to the lecture at hand…

    keith sweat is one begging mofo… but so is avant… “don’t say no, just say yes”… that sounds like some begging to me.

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    • sidenote… did anyone see the clip of k-ci and jojo performing where jojo passes out on stage and k-ci continues his crackish pelvic girations?

      a little piece of my soul died that day. damn it to hell…having been on a stage a few times myself I know the show is supposed to go on and all but sh!t. crackhead or not, can you please pick your brother up? still laughing…and wondering what the world is coming to.

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        • “sidenote… did anyone see the clip of k-ci and jojo performing where jojo passes out on stage and k-ci continues his crackish pelvic girations?”

          Or the pictures of homeboy riding on his bodyguards shoulders through the crowd like Dave Chappelle in the “making of the band” skit? COMEDY! Those pictures are an instant daymaker right there.

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          • “Or the pictures of homeboy riding on his bodyguards shoulders through the crowd like Dave Chappelle in the “making of the band” skit?”

            I saw this on the “Who’s Got Jokes?” finale in 2006. My moms was laughing so hard. Now, when moms is laughing instead of saying “It’s a shame what happened to that boy.” you know it’s comedy.

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      • I refused to watch this clip for weeks after it came out. Then I got tricked into watching it by a friend-absolutely horrified. I haven’t been the same since. *sadness*

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  77. Although he came later in the game, I’ma say Sisqo was the beggin-ist singer purely on the basis of “Incomplete.” Sure, he put butts in the public spotlight again with that damn “Thong Song” but I was always a little confused by him. Sisqo’s sexuality is highly questionable, from the platinum dye job to the celestial sun tattoo surrounding his navel. For me “Incomplete” is him beggin for female love and attention–something he might not even be interested in.

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  78. I wanted bypass the obvious and therefore not say Keith Sweat, but currently” Nobody” is on the radio and it is undeniable. Keith Sweat is the begginist mo-fo on the planet. Plus, have you heard his radio show? Thangs aint changed!

    And the best Jodeci song is “My Heart Belongs to You”, although “Alone” will always hold a special place in my heart (yeah let’s call it my heart).

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    • “although “Alone” will always hold a special place in my heart (yeah let’s call it my heart)”

      i feel your pain (yeah let’s call it pain)

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  79. Slightly off topic. . .

    But was I the only one that while watching the Jaheim “could it be” video thought he was about to get ready to spit some 50 cent type sh!t? . . . even through the beginning . . . “uhh . . .about to take it to ‘em” . . . then came the “oooooooh yeaaaaaaaa” a very lingering memory of my overall confusion as a freshman in college. . .I still remember that wtf? feeling everytime I see that video.

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    • Jaheim cracks me up. He just does not look like he should be singin R&B. He looks like he should be in front of somebody’s liquor store, eyes red from hitting a blunt 10 minutes ago, with a newport dangling from his lip, holding a tall can of Steel Reserve in a brown paper bag and trying to holla at the chicks by singing (with his lip quivering) “I’ve changed”.

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      • “Jaheim cracks me up. He just does not look like he should be singin R&B. He looks like he should be in front of somebody’s liquor store, eyes red from hitting a blunt 10 minutes ago, with a newport dangling from his lip, holding a tall can of Steel Reserve in a brown paper bag and trying to holla at the chicks by singing (with his lip quivering) “I’ve changed”.”

        LMAO! Exactly!

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    • Yeah Jaheim is an unlikely R&B kat, I cut for him though. He’s another one that I got every album that he put out, except this latest one..lol

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  81. How can you forget Mr. Freddie Jackson? That’s my vote. Best Jodeci song ever, “I’m Still Waiting”. And us bankers don’t work on Monday either :)

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  82. Best Jodeci song??

    Not sure if it’s been said, but “Freekin’ You (REMIX)” and “Come And Talk To Me (REMIX)”.

    One of my favorite beginning lines (of all time) to a song is “You got stacks like the International House of Pancakes”…when you start your verse off like that, you can’t go wrong.

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    • “One of my favorite beginning lines (of all time) to a song is “You got stacks like the International House of Pancakes”…when you start your verse off like that, you can’t go wrong.”

      yeah, i referenced this upthread

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  83. ATTN ALL VSBers:

    The boys are MIA.

    P is having a crisis at work. Apparently all internet is down. The Man finally got him!!! He says that none of your claims are validated until he says so.

    The Champ is not answering any calls. He’s not on AIM. I should probably be worried, but I am sure he is somewhere sipping on some soup and will turn up any moment.

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  84. First off, what’s really good with the picture. I’m pretty sure there are plenty of free picsof a bum (Ashy Larry jumps to mind…crackhead, but a bum nonetheless)

    To stray from the most obvious beggingest ni99as (i.e. babyface, keith sweat and every last of boyz II men), I’ll throw a couple of songs out there.

    1) I Swear by All 4 One – you don’t swear by nuttin, much less moon and stars, unless you really begging

    2) You by Jesse Powell – …

    Damn it, I gotta run but I do have some more.

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    • do us all a favor, K, don’t come back.

      p.s. see yo reniggin, cuttin-behind-yo-pahtna self sat night for the spades tourny :)

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        • You are correct demz is fighting words and I would like to file a complaint against Gem of the Ocean, aka ‘Salt of the Earth”.

          This is my 3rd day posting and have not felt welcome because of all the hateration coming from Mizz Gem. I vote that she be banned from VSB

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          • i welcomed you into my home with food and organic sparkling lemonade, didn’t i?? and then you name call!! what more do you want from me, woman?!?!

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      • Uhhm, if I remember correctly (which I probably don’t because I was drunk that night) we won. And it looks bad on your part to get a$$ whooped by a drunkard :-P

        Furthermore, I did NOT renege…I’m 70% sure of that.

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        • ok, now you’re straight lying on VSB. yall did NOT win, not by any stretch of the imagine. brit and i whooped up on you and seyi. if you’d like to relive that embarrassing moment, just wait til sat night, chick.

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        • editors note: the champ would like to let everyone know that he’s offering his college teammates, the cast of the wire, and everyone on his dad’s side of the family to gem and killa so they can have “more people” to co-sign on their supposed spades expertise

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  85. fave Jodeci joint: “I’m Still Waiting”

    begginist ninja ever: Otis Redding
    1st runner up: Al Green

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  86. Begging is championed by Boys II Men hands down! True a lot of other people have begged on a record. But who has more begging hits than Boys II Men? No one does! Water Runs Dry, End of the Road, Bended Knee, Please Don’t Go, and even though it is sung at funerals and stuff, It’s So Hard To Say Goodbye is a beggin a$$ song!!!! So that’s my vote.

    I was going to put a picture up of me in my VSB shirt but I can’t seem to get it in my post.

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    • “I’m just now watching the VH1 Hip-Hop Honors wondering why no one else mentioned that Cee-lo looked like a pinball?”

      that made me choke on my maple smoked turkey sandwich with meunster cheese

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    • And there should be a standard issued eye patch that only comes in black… Lime green and Turquoise are not hot in the streets right now.

      This is like the Players’ Ball for rappers.

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      • dam Deev’s can we give Slick Rick a break on his colorful eye patches. that nicra be matching like he’s from detroit. betya his socks were matching the patch.

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  89. 112 Cupid

    Baby I’m so tired of the way
    you turn my words into
    Deception and lies
    Don’t misunderstand me when I
    try to speak my mind
    I’m only saying what’s in my heart

    Cupid doesn’t lie
    But you won’t know unless you give it a try
    Oh baby, true love
    won’t lie but we won’t know
    unless we give it a try
    give it a try

    Jagged Edge – Promise

    Nothing is promised to me and you
    So why will we let this thing go
    Baby I promise that I’ll stay true
    Don’t let nobody say it ain’t so
    And baby I promise that i’ll never leave
    And everything will be alright, I
    I promise these things to you
    Girl just believe
    I promise

    would either of these qualify for begging?

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    • I don’t know if they qualify as begging, but I know I was absolutely in love w/that song “Cupid” by 112. I still play it a lot.

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    • I was so in love with this song that I taped it off the radio 4 times, bought the cassette single, burned it on 3 separate CDs, and now have the mp3 in my car. In short, I have followed this song through all the phases of technology, and I’m not ashamed.

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  90. Ok, if I’m repeating any shoot me, but the most beggin arse song, HANDS DOWN, goes to Lenny Williams yall. TLC said he was the inspiration for “Aint Too Proud To Beg”….ok no they didn’t, but who is to say he wasn’t?

    In this song, he darn near cried, he took it to God a la Champs advice, and had more babys, oohs, and ohhs in their than Ashanti and a spiritual combined. Oh and I forgot to mention the all-important talking bit. He stopped singing at one point and just talked straight to the people. Don’tchakno!
    Hmm, hmm
    Hmm…hmm…mmm…
    You know
    One time things got so bad until
    I had to go to one of my friends and talk to him
    And I told him, I said, ?You know
    I?m having problems with the woman that I love
    It seems that I call her on the phone and I just can?t get her to answer
    And then I went to her house and I saw a car parked in the driveway
    I knocked on the door, but still my knocks went unanswered
    And then I went home and I-I watched television until television went off
    And then I played my records until I just didn?t want to hear them anymore
    And finally I went to bed, but I found myself waking up a few hours later
    And the tears were running down my face?
    And my friend told me, he said, ?Lenny,
    You just oughta forget about her?
    But I told my friend, I said, ?You know
    Maybe you?ve never been in love like I?ve been in love
    And maybe you?ve never felt the things that I?ve felt?
    But this is what I told my friend
    I said, ?You know, sometimes you get lonely
    You get lonely, you get lonely?
    Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
    And I cry, I cry
    Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
    And the tears would fill up in the wells
    In the wells of my eyes, baby
    And then it got so bad, it got so bad
    Till one time I thought I?d roll myself up in a big ol? ball and die
    And then I met you, darlin?
    And you smiled at me
    Oh, oh, it was such a pretty smile, yes, it was
    And you reached out your hand
    You helped me (Helped), you helped me (Helped me), you helped, oh
    I?m glad, baby, I?m glad, baby
    Oh, oh, oh, baby, ey, ey, ey
    I won’t ever leave you, baby
    I won’t ever grieve you, baby
    I?m gonna love you, oh, oh, oh, baby
    I?m glad, I?m glad, baby
    Oh, oh, yeah, baby, oh, oh, oh
    I love you, I love you
    I love you, I love you, oh
    I love you, I love you
    I love you, I love you
    I love you, I love you
    I love you

    CHAMP: WHAT DO I WIN?

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  91. young, i love 112′s cupid:)

    So, Ready or Not was sung by Mansun no? And the best Jodeci song is “Cry for You”, they sing in the song “baby im beggin, baby im beggin, beggin, beggin. what more do you want? and of course “Come and Talk to Me”.

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  95. uh…. is it just me… or does the VSB chatter seem to die down around 5pm est…..

    if VSB is a job, i would like to be added on to the payroll…

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  97. Babyface wins hands down…the madness this bredda had others singing

    Girl I’m here for you
    All those times of night when you just hurt me
    And just run out with that other fella
    Baby I knew about it, I just didn’t care
    You just don’t understand how much I love you do you?
    I’m here for you

    I’m not out to go out and cheat on you all night
    Just like you did baby but that’s all right
    Hey, I love you anyway
    And I’m still gonna be here for you ’till my dying day baby
    Right now, I’m just in so much pain baby
    Coz you just won’t come back to me
    Will you? just come back to me

    (lonely)
    Yes baby my heart is lonely
    (lonely)
    My heart hurts baby
    (lonely)
    Yes I feel pain too
    Baby please

    This time instead just come to my bed
    And baby just don’t let me go

    If that aint some serious begging!

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