The VSB Files–Episode 005: Montana Fishburne, Kanye West, & Intimidating Women

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What’s up everybody!

We’ve decided to bless you with another episode of the VSB Files. Join Panama Jackson, The Champ and Liz as we talk a little bit about what’s on our minds. Some thangs we cover in this episode:

  • Jersey Shore & Guido Game
  • Cartoon Game
  • Montana Fishburne & Spotty Butt Problems
  • Is Kanye West the most important black person of ALL TIME?
  • Women and the men who are intimidated by them: fact or fiction?
  • Our Black Weblog Award Nominations: VOTE VOTE VOTE!! You have until Aug 31st to get your votes in!
  • Why P is gay
  • SXSW ’11 – Hater Blocking 101: Help send Panama & Liz to Austin so we can impart our wisdom on Haters. PLEASE VOTE VOTE VOTE (short and sweet sign up here). You have until Aug 27th!
  • VSB BBQ: Some plans and brainstorming

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  • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

    YASSSS!

  • Betamale

    If they call it “smush,” it must not be very good.

    • Betamale

      Lovely voice, Liz. Any chance you guys are thinking of having a podcast where people can call in. I’d love to add my 2 cents.

      • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

        I’ve said this before, thus I second this emotion.

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        LOL, aw thanks.

        Yes, well…we have a VSB hotline people can call in to leave messages. We just never give out the number. Will do. Anything else is an interview of sorts, which we will start doing soon.

        • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

          Yeah, I’ve always wanted ya’ll to do that blogtalkradio-ish stuff where there’s a call-in number during live shows.

  • http://calmpleks.wordpress.com Calmpleks

    As an NJ/NY snob, I find Champ’s Pittsburgh accent hilarious.

    • http://lizburr.com Liz

      HAHAHAH!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      As an NJ/NY snob, I find Champ’s Pittsburgh accent hilarious.

      as a movie snob, i do as well.

    • hehe

      word almost as bad as a cali accent.

  • Rog

    “What kind of Asian-Ass problem is that”

    HAAA!!

  • Shay

    If I were PJ or the champ, the theme song would be my ringtone.

  • NomadaNare

    Champ, I think you’re funny, but uh… real talk: Kanye West is no where near anywhere close to any of the most important black people in the world. Seriously. He may be very influential, (I wouldn’t even put him on a list of most influential) but he is not important. Sorry to burst your bubble. In fact, Kanye is still beholden to his record label. How important is that?

    • http://lizburr.com Liz

      Hmm. good point.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      influence and importance are unrelated?

      • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

        Yeah, I’m actually with Champster here and completely understood his argument (and thought it had a great point) during the podcast. For someone to have influence, don’t they have to be important in some way? I think the thing is, of course Kanye West isn’t important in the same WAY that Barack is…but that doesn’t mean he’s NOT very important in our culture period. There is not only one way to be important, obviously.

      • NomadaNare

        @Champ
        Of course not, but I’d much rather be important than influential. Important people are powerful. Influence is a form of power. So, if one is important one can be influential as well as powerful in many other ways. If one is influential one is not necessarily powerful or by proxy important. For me, a great way to decide who’s important and who isn’t is asking yourself the question that in a reasonable situation (ie one that is probable) if you must do things that this person tells you to do. Here’s an example: If Obama tells you to buy healthcare, you’re buying healthcare or the IRS is getting that ass. If Kanye tells you to buy his album, you’re probably not going to buy it (at least I’m not going to) and even a good majority of the people that will get it will illegally obtain it. The only way Kanye is powerful is if people let him be. Obama? Not the case.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          ‘The only way Kanye is powerful is if people let him be.’

          you’re making my point. just because we’ve given him this power doesn’t mean he doesn’t have it.

          and, if i’m not mistaken, obama was given his power as well (unless, of course, i dreamed up his entire campaign. that would have been some inception for your ass right there)

          • NomadaNare

            I see what your saying and I understand that, but what I think you don’t understand is that influencing some of the things that some people buy isn’t the same as being a world leader of even an economic one. Now, here we may diverge fundamentally/philosophically, but IMO the thing that gives Obama his power isn’t the direct will of people (although in most cases an election is a necessary condition to be satisfied in order for Obama to have power) but the fact that in this nation, we all adhere to a social contract called the constitution which says that if we follow these rules and such and such, Obama has power regardless of if we like him or not. On top of that if Obama says things in a certain way, we as adherents to the rules outlined in the constitution must do what he says or face very real consequences. The difference with Kanye West is as soon as we don’t like him he no longer has the benefits that influence lends to him. On top of that even if Kanye was an important/powerful person, his handlers would be more in control of it than he is.

            • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

              “The difference with Kanye West is as soon as we don’t like him he no longer has the benefits that influence lends to him.”

              Negative. Liking has nothing to do with importance, actually. Kanye West is the BEST example of this because for as many people who hate him, these are the same folks who talk about him constantly…thus giving power to him. A person doesn’t have to be particularly liked to have influence over a culture. And again, influence is not just about inspiring folks and or making them follow rules (i.e. Obama), it’s also about barging your way into their social constructs. And I’d say Kanye did this in sort of a seamless way. His quotables, like Champ cited, are pretty ingrained in pop culture and he was just being his effing self. Which may very well be an a*s, but folks are still talking about him…still quoting him, still paying attention to him. I guess my point is, there are different levels of importance and I think Kanye is firmly within one of those levels. He’s not by no means the leader of the free world, but the mofo is a staple of our society in some form.

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

              “The difference with Kanye West is as soon as we don’t like him he no longer has the benefits that influence lends to him”

              this is true. he (and any other entertainer/public figure) is only as powerful as we want them to be. thing is, my argument isn’t taking place in the future. i’m talking about right now, today. also, i never said kanye was as powerful as obama. all i said was he (and a few other pop culture figures) deserve mention on any “most powerful/influential” person’s list. the exact degree of powerful is debatable. the fact that certain entertainers and athletes wield a prodigious amount of power isn’t.

              there’s nothing about your argument i don’t understand. i just don’t agree that power only matters if what you do has some great intrinsic or moral value.

  • http://www.cedricw.com Ced W

    Enjoyed this! Wished you guys would have gotten into the Dr Laura fuckery, but this was great.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Wished you guys would have gotten into the Dr Laura fuckery”

      she has a sex tape too?

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        LOL No. But after we taped this episode I wished we HAD talked about her too.

      • http://www.iamyourpeople.com I Am Your People

        “Wished you guys would have gotten into the Dr Laura fuckery”

        she has a sex tape too?

        No, but there were semi-nekkid pictures of her online. They first hit the internet back when you still paid for AOL by the hour.

  • tnt_ftw

    i normally don’t do podcasts, but i listened today.
    a few thoughts:
    a. yall don’t sound like ANYTHING IVE IMAGINED
    b. the theme song might be a tad long…
    c. i love the interaction amongst you all
    d. panama king beef really? really?! :sigh: lol
    e. and i dont really have anything else constructive to add since im getting to this so late but i had to throw my lil two cents in

  • RoRo

    LMAO… Thank You P, I am now going to be using “I Read” for my jerkiness. Just b/c.

    Congrats on the nominations. I voted for you all so I hope you all win.

    And Champ….being friendly is an overrated quality.

  • Rae

    I stay lurking, but the theme song had me chortling at my desk

    • http://lizburr.com Liz

      :)

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