What’s up everybody!
We’ve decided to bless you with another episode of the VSB Files. Join Panama Jackson, The Champ and Liz as we talk a little bit about what’s on our minds. Some thangs we cover in this episode:
- Jersey Shore & Guido Game
- Cartoon Game
- Montana Fishburne & Spotty Butt Problems
- Is Kanye West the most important black person of ALL TIME?
- Women and the men who are intimidated by them: fact or fiction?
- Our Black Weblog Award Nominations: VOTE VOTE VOTE!! You have until Aug 31st to get your votes in!
- Why P is gay
- SXSW ’11 – Hater Blocking 101: Help send Panama & Liz to Austin so we can impart our wisdom on Haters. PLEASE VOTE VOTE VOTE (short and sweet sign up here). You have until Aug 27th!
- VSB BBQ: Some plans and brainstorming
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YASSSS!
If they call it “smush,” it must not be very good.
Lovely voice, Liz. Any chance you guys are thinking of having a podcast where people can call in. I’d love to add my 2 cents.
I’ve said this before, thus I second this emotion.
LOL, aw thanks.
Yes, well…we have a VSB hotline people can call in to leave messages. We just never give out the number. Will do. Anything else is an interview of sorts, which we will start doing soon.
Yeah, I’ve always wanted ya’ll to do that blogtalkradio-ish stuff where there’s a call-in number during live shows.
As an NJ/NY snob, I find Champ’s Pittsburgh accent hilarious.
HAHAHAH!
As an NJ/NY snob, I find Champ’s Pittsburgh accent hilarious.
as a movie snob, i do as well.
word almost as bad as a cali accent.
“What kind of Asian-Ass problem is that”
HAAA!!
If I were PJ or the champ, the theme song would be my ringtone.
Champ, I think you’re funny, but uh… real talk: Kanye West is no where near anywhere close to any of the most important black people in the world. Seriously. He may be very influential, (I wouldn’t even put him on a list of most influential) but he is not important. Sorry to burst your bubble. In fact, Kanye is still beholden to his record label. How important is that?
Hmm. good point.
influence and importance are unrelated?
Yeah, I’m actually with Champster here and completely understood his argument (and thought it had a great point) during the podcast. For someone to have influence, don’t they have to be important in some way? I think the thing is, of course Kanye West isn’t important in the same WAY that Barack is…but that doesn’t mean he’s NOT very important in our culture period. There is not only one way to be important, obviously.
@Champ
Of course not, but I’d much rather be important than influential. Important people are powerful. Influence is a form of power. So, if one is important one can be influential as well as powerful in many other ways. If one is influential one is not necessarily powerful or by proxy important. For me, a great way to decide who’s important and who isn’t is asking yourself the question that in a reasonable situation (ie one that is probable) if you must do things that this person tells you to do. Here’s an example: If Obama tells you to buy healthcare, you’re buying healthcare or the IRS is getting that ass. If Kanye tells you to buy his album, you’re probably not going to buy it (at least I’m not going to) and even a good majority of the people that will get it will illegally obtain it. The only way Kanye is powerful is if people let him be. Obama? Not the case.
‘The only way Kanye is powerful is if people let him be.’
you’re making my point. just because we’ve given him this power doesn’t mean he doesn’t have it.
and, if i’m not mistaken, obama was given his power as well (unless, of course, i dreamed up his entire campaign. that would have been some inception for your ass right there)
I see what your saying and I understand that, but what I think you don’t understand is that influencing some of the things that some people buy isn’t the same as being a world leader of even an economic one. Now, here we may diverge fundamentally/philosophically, but IMO the thing that gives Obama his power isn’t the direct will of people (although in most cases an election is a necessary condition to be satisfied in order for Obama to have power) but the fact that in this nation, we all adhere to a social contract called the constitution which says that if we follow these rules and such and such, Obama has power regardless of if we like him or not. On top of that if Obama says things in a certain way, we as adherents to the rules outlined in the constitution must do what he says or face very real consequences. The difference with Kanye West is as soon as we don’t like him he no longer has the benefits that influence lends to him. On top of that even if Kanye was an important/powerful person, his handlers would be more in control of it than he is.
“The difference with Kanye West is as soon as we don’t like him he no longer has the benefits that influence lends to him.”
Negative. Liking has nothing to do with importance, actually. Kanye West is the BEST example of this because for as many people who hate him, these are the same folks who talk about him constantly…thus giving power to him. A person doesn’t have to be particularly liked to have influence over a culture. And again, influence is not just about inspiring folks and or making them follow rules (i.e. Obama), it’s also about barging your way into their social constructs. And I’d say Kanye did this in sort of a seamless way. His quotables, like Champ cited, are pretty ingrained in pop culture and he was just being his effing self. Which may very well be an a*s, but folks are still talking about him…still quoting him, still paying attention to him. I guess my point is, there are different levels of importance and I think Kanye is firmly within one of those levels. He’s not by no means the leader of the free world, but the mofo is a staple of our society in some form.
“The difference with Kanye West is as soon as we don’t like him he no longer has the benefits that influence lends to him”
this is true. he (and any other entertainer/public figure) is only as powerful as we want them to be. thing is, my argument isn’t taking place in the future. i’m talking about right now, today. also, i never said kanye was as powerful as obama. all i said was he (and a few other pop culture figures) deserve mention on any “most powerful/influential” person’s list. the exact degree of powerful is debatable. the fact that certain entertainers and athletes wield a prodigious amount of power isn’t.
there’s nothing about your argument i don’t understand. i just don’t agree that power only matters if what you do has some great intrinsic or moral value.
Enjoyed this! Wished you guys would have gotten into the Dr Laura fuckery, but this was great.
“Wished you guys would have gotten into the Dr Laura fuckery”
she has a sex tape too?
LOL No. But after we taped this episode I wished we HAD talked about her too.
“Wished you guys would have gotten into the Dr Laura fuckery”
she has a sex tape too?
No, but there were semi-nekkid pictures of her online. They first hit the internet back when you still paid for AOL by the hour.
i normally don’t do podcasts, but i listened today.
a few thoughts:
a. yall don’t sound like ANYTHING IVE IMAGINED
b. the theme song might be a tad long…
c. i love the interaction amongst you all
d. panama king beef really? really?! :sigh: lol
e. and i dont really have anything else constructive to add since im getting to this so late but i had to throw my lil two cents in
LMAO… Thank You P, I am now going to be using “I Read” for my jerkiness. Just b/c.
Congrats on the nominations. I voted for you all so I hope you all win.
And Champ….being friendly is an overrated quality.
I stay lurking, but the theme song had me chortling at my desk
1)The Jersey Shore. One word.
ghetto a$$ white people
2)Spots on her a$$. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUMoGObuHtU
*DEAD*
I cain’t breathe.
Champ, I agree with your theory that what we might refer to as fcuked up behavior (e.g., becoming a pron star) can be attributed to the neglect of a mother just as much as it can be attributed to the neglect of a father. In a “nuclear family”, a mother provides nurturing and provides a reflection for how how to carry herself as a young woman. On the other hand, a father should provide protection and reassurance that she is worthy of only the best from the opposite sex. So, in this instance (of a young woman choosing to become a pron star) we can point the finger at either parent. If the mother isn’t present, lacks nurturing qualities, or is too narcissistic to provide an example of womanhood, the result can be just as damaging as an absent father. Psychology is far too complex to place “the blame” on one parent’s actions. Also, according to many behavioral psychologists, neglect in general does far more damage psychologically and developmentally (particularly early development of self-esteem) than other forms of abuse -and either gender can be guilty of neglect. That’s just my 2 cents.
Oh the quoteables… great job guys
“that’s some Asian ass problem to have…”
“never mind she looked like a gremlin…”
“…nobody gets shot at our block party…”
Panama you’s a fool lol!!
Oh and I wondered that about the blog of the year too… Good luck!!
“You don’t see her anus in HD.”
I’m done.
Liz’s laugh is so infectious…lol
Them spots are hard to come by.
I haven’t heard “nincompoop” in quite some time. *thumbs up*
Kanye? Ehhhh….
Champie I love how you say Kanye’s name.
I don’t like “Power” either, I’m not impressed.
You’re coming to SXSW Interactive? Yay!!!!! I had been thinking of volunteering for the festival this year.
Wow…I assumed the stalker was female…that’s suprising!
I try to hide my laughs but it’s difficult with these two!
Regarding the “intimidation” topic, I think you guys are incorrect in saying that if a man is intimidated by a woman, then he would never have approached/talked to her. Does being intimidated mean never taking risks?
I cannot lie! The more I hear the theme song the more I LUV IT!
best part= “Ooo girl he’s a freak!” ROTFLMAO
Another hilarious show, guys!
I really enjoyed the discussion & I ? the outro ?.
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Family Guy is a prerequisite for everything in life (ok not really), but seriously it is one of my favorite shows period.
Great discussions! I am hooked