“the unsupportive sista”, and three more stupid stereotypes about black women

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next year, that trophy is MINE, bitch

apparently, something called a “slim thug” recently blogged at vibe magazine about the current black dating and relationship dynamic. although his blog touched on everything from “reasons why some people shouldn’t use equations” to the benefits of bagging and boning ivy-educated mulattoes, the prevailing theme in his piece was that (most) black women are perpetually disencouraging chickenhawks who need to be a bit more becky.

before i continue, i will concede that a rapper, athlete, or entertainer might encounter a different type of woman than the “average” black man. if you (willingly) move in circles were a woman’s interest and eventual wetness is usually directly correlated to the size of your rims, you’re probably more likely to encounter, well, women whose interest and eventual wetness is directly correlated to the size of your rims. since he’s (probably) put himself in situations where contact with “regular” sistas is limited, his limited perspective about black women is understandable. dangerous and stupid as f*ck, but understandable.

but while this peculiar “slim thug” entity lives in an alternate universe filled with strange and deadly beasts called cubanalusts and katstackses and evelynlozadas, he brings up a meme that’s been expressed many times on regular ‘ole planet earth: black women don’t support black men. and, as a man who’s befriended, wooed, pursued, dated, and belonged to black women my entire life, i can say with no hesitation that this popular claim is 100% wrong.

maybe i’ve just been lucky. maybe my personal remembrances, anecdotes, and experiences with sistas are uncommon, but every. single. one. of the black woman i know are extremely willing to offer more support than one of aretha’s bras. seriously, i literally can’t name one black woman i’ve ever personally known who wasn’t supportive of positive and even semi-positive brothas. even the ones i know who are married to or exclusively date white men still support and encourage us. sh*t, there are probably some sistas reading this right now champing at the bit, waiting for any brotha to do something so she can throw some random encouragement his way.

if anything, you can make the case that (generally speaking) black women are TOO supporting, too willing to sacrifice themselves and their well-being for the betterment of black men and the black community, but thats a topic for another day.

anyway, this subject made me think of some other stupid stereotypes about black women, and here’s three more.

black women love thugs

no. silly women love thugs. big difference.

(educated) black women hate giving head…and are terrible at it when they do

since i’m trying to keep things pg-16 here, i’ll just say that the common perception of the prudish professional black woman is completely false. while sisters might be a bit more, ummmm, discerning about who and when they decide to fellate, they love to lewinsky their mates just as much as the next becky.

and, as far as this hold white women have on the mythical “best head in show” title, my only sexual experience with a white woman (i was in college. don’t judge me) contained 150 seconds of quite possibly the most excruciating head that’s ever existed. seriously, she tugged and twisted on me like i was a wet dishrag she was trying to dry. at one point i even looked down at my wang and mouthed “i’m sorry, man” like i was watching through a fiberglass door as it was being tortured by sayid from lost.

i know this is completely anecdotal, but if this incident is any evidence of why white women keep the “1st place, head category” trophy on their mantles, i’ll stick with my honorable mention sistas.

black women don’t take care of their bodies

to quote the kid talking to mcnulty about the late snotboogie, “it’s america, man”.

to expound, it’s america, man…nobody takes care of their bodies here. have you seen ourselves? sh*t, as i’m typing this in the coffee shop down the street from my apartment, i’m watching a man eat two cups of cream cheese…by itself.

***pausing to allow you to re-read what i just typed, and re-typing the previous sentence just in case you didn’t read it the first time***

sh*t, as i’m typing this in the coffee shop down the street from my apartment, i’m watching a (white) man eat two cups of cream cheese…by itself. he’s scooping that sh*t up with his thumb and eating it like it’s f*cking peanut butter. it’s easily the most disgusting thing i’ve seen since last sunday. in fact, the fact that he’s using his thumb instead of his index finger makes it even more disgusting. my point? we’re a nation full of fleshly-ass nightfeeding motherf*ckers. but, for whatever reason, black women seem to catch the most “ya’ll need to take better care of yourselves” flack, and that sh*t needs to stop

anyway, people of vsb.com, can you think of any other stupid stereotypes about black women (and black men, if you desire)? also, can anybody refute my claim about the fact that “the unsupportive sista” doesnt actually exist? if a slim thug wrote a blog about black women in the woods, would suzie ketcham buy a round?

the carpet is yours

—the champ

552 thoughts on ““the unsupportive sista”, and three more stupid stereotypes about black women”

    • “but while this peculiar “slim thug” entity lives in an alternate universe filled with strange and deadly beasts called cubanalusts and katstackses and evelynlozadas, he brings up a meme that’s been expressed many times on regular ‘ole planet earth: black women don’t support black men. and, as a man who’s befriended, wooed, pursued, dated, and belonged to black women my entire life, i can say with no hesitation that this popular claim is 100% wrong.”

      I see your 100% and raise you an extra 10% for shiggles (word to Gem). Because the one thing that pisses all of his claim that we don’t support black women is that even though we cuss ya’ll out for dating Becky, call you all types of deadbeats and negroes, and any other variation of “niccas ain’t sh*t”, we STILL consider you number one choice when it comes to dating (in general).

      And *gag* at the man thumb-eating cream cheese. Yes, eating it with his thumb is more gross. We use that to pick up things properly, not to eat cream cheese.

      Also, this:

      “black women don’t take care of their bodies”

      Your post is so sweet and nice, Champie and I know Panama is gonna offset it and bombard in here, say “Precious”, then drop his mic at some point today.

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      • I haven’t read the posting yet (*shakes fist at work getting in the way of late of my vsb’ing). but this was the buzz on my fb the other day.
        my friend found this in response to some rapper dude that no one is talking about in music circles (#teamdrizzy).

        *apologies if this is already posted above me. just wanna join the convo!

        Dear Slim Thug (And those that think like him):

        I’m not going to soften the blow of my letter by hurling witty insults at you or by presenting this letter in an indignant manner because I want the full weight of what I have to say to be felt; not just heard or read but felt. The Open Season that’s been going on a…gainst Black Women since the beginning of 2010 is over. No longer will she be the media’s doormat. It’s time that you and the people that think like you open your eyes to realize that the problem isn’t Black Women. I don’t want this to be about pointing fingers or placing blame; however the Black Woman is the last person that should be talked about when it comes to people getting their act together. For generations, Black Women have done nothing but get their act together. It’s time that the rest of us catch up.

        The media is quick to point out how single the Black Woman is. They are quick to tell you that 70% of Black Women have never been married or will never be married. She can’t find a man. Her standards are too high. She’s too strong willed, too aggressive. She needs to tone it down a notch. But all of that is wrong, maybe the Black Woman doesn’t need to tone it down a notch, maybe everyone else needs to raise it up a notch. Rather than telling her to descend, maybe we should concentrate on ascending and reaching higher levels. Higher levels of moral integrity, higher levels of education, higher levels of commitment, higher levels of testicular fortitude; maybe it’s time we rise to the level of the Black Woman rather than trying to lower her down to our level of mediocrity.

        In that letter, it was said that black women need to learn how to have their man’s back. But over the past 200 plus years in this country, whom more than the Black Woman has been a bigger supporter, nurturer and caretaker of Black Men than Black Women? When we have nothing, they are there. When we gain a few dollars to fold together, they’re there making sure the books are right. The Black Woman hasn’t turned her back on us, if anything; we’ve turned our back on them. An unfair representation was given of Black Women in that article because if we check the numbers, we’ll see that in higher numbers than Black Men, Black women are graduating from college, owning homes, owning small business, having better credit scores and climbing the corporate ladder. Now, if you don’t know any of these Black Women, maybe you should step outside of your comfort zone and look at the world a little differently. I will gladly introduce you to Black Women that are doing their thing, not waiting for a handout of some rapper or anyone else.

        The media is doing an excellent job of tearing down the Black Woman with the help of the Black Man; all while trying to earn her Black Dollars. It makes me wonder why we’ve never heard the other side of the argument, why we’ve never read an interview with a man that adores Black Women. That’s not to say that the Black Woman isn’t without fault because no one is perfect, however, while we’re all debating about what’s wrong with the Black Woman; she has her act together a little more than the rest of us right now.

        Signed,

        A Black Man/@DaWriter

        and let the church say…

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        • sorry. this was supposed to be an independant post.
          the site or my comp is having ish this morning. *insert thumbs down.

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        • Yawn… stretch… yawn again

          This entire situation is so mindnumbingly tiring its borderline unfathomable. Even if I didn’t have the opportunity to hear Slim’s explanation of the blog in question, I still would shake my head unmercifully at this matter. When I first read his blog article, the way it started off confused me. Why, because it clearly wasn’t a complete conversation. It was an extracted portion. That’s 1.

          Two, just reading some of the lines that got pulled out, by other bloggers and angry/P.O.’d/fed up black women… going back and looking at the context, they just didn’t seem right. What I mean is, they were almost too outlandish and out there, to be received by my brain as real and actual feelings of his. Again, this is excluding the radio interview I heard this morning.

          Three, can someone explain to me why THIS “article” got so much more attention from black women (in the social media world), than ALL of the other print/tv media reports that spoke of the “plight” of poor marriage rates of African-American women? My guess, because it actually came from a black man. Never mind the fact that this particular black man’s name is Slim Thugg. Not a blog by an African-American man named, Abdul Johnson, or Roosevelt Thomas. But Slim Thugg.

          Ladies, gentlemen… whoever is listening. PLEASE, someone explain to me why there was so much tweeted/facebooked/etc. drama about a blog posting from a brotha named Slim Thugg? In a VIBE.com article. Not I don’t know, Cosmo or People or US News and (friggin) World Report. Don’t worry, I’ll wait. Here’s what I think happened, women, read this article… combined it with the fact that it came from a black man, saw the BLARING, GLOW IN THE DARK quotables that they’ve read/heard in other stories or from actual black men… and said enough is enough. And you know what, I get that. I really do.

          BUT dude, really? All of what he said isn’t gross generalization. There’s some truth in it. But due to poor reporting (it was a blog, not an article carefully written by a journalist for a national publication), bad choice of words here and there… coupled with irritated and frustrated readers (who are the “target” in this blog), everyone is on ready-set-attack Slim Thug, his “followers” and those that think like him.

          Stop the madness. This is the way I see it. Generally speaking (because that is the root of all of this bs), a majority of black men were not going to read that blog. Only black women. So there really was no fear of it influencing brothas and their thinking (THIS FACT DOES NOT MAKE WHAT WAS SAID OKAY, i’m just saying). A majority % of white people were not going to read it either, please… VIBE, no disrespect, but let’s keep it funky. So they were not going to be influenced about the gross stereotypes of black women either. Black women drew any and all attention to that article. My thing is, if you don’t like it. Just say you don’t like it. Not because of X,Y, and Z. You just don’t like it because of how you feel it portrays you. Eventhough, he didn’t say ALL BLACK WOMEN, he only said most/some/alot. Again this is coming from a man named Slim Thug, not I don’t know… Colin Powell.

          I’m all for black women, revolting against the machine, which has been on the attack since 01/01/2010 hit. Putting pressure on enough or all of the proper channels, until articles and specials are run, that explain why the marriage rates are what they are. Why women have moved into a more authoritative role, out of want and necessity. What can and needs to be done to deter the systematic degradation of the black race since the 60s and 70s, which ultimately led to present day issues, with black love (or lack there of)/the black family etc. Hey, sign me up to assist in anyway I possibly can for that cause. But, let’s just work to find ways to do that… not go on the attack when a brotha named Slim Thug, states some things in a blog about black women to VIBE.com. C’mon sistas, c’mon now… really. I get it but damn, come on. Other than a select few sistas I know that, are actually feminists… some/most/alot of “ya’ll” (hello, generalization), didn’t raise half the hell over prior instances of “black female attack.” Put it in VIBE tho, from a black man named Slim Thug though… UH OH!!!

          ===and unrelated, but mentioned in this article===
          I’m a black man from SE, Washington, DC. Educated in the midwest at Ohio University. I work downtown in DC, wear a suit and tie 80% of the week, I’m married to a black woman and have never dated a white woman. What’s funny is, when I’m in the hood, fresh from work… “hood” types of women pay me attention. Whenever I’m around more what would be perceived as corporate types of women, say on a weekend, and I’m dressed in a more “hood” type of apparel… those types of women pay me attention. Or at after work functions in my “church clothes (lol),” and a more relaxed bit of my personality or verbiage slips out, THEN I’m attractive. I’ve had women str8 up tell me to my face, you’re a nice looking brother in your 9-5. But when you are in some sweats and timbs… (I won’t even finish the rest of that statement, but you get the idea), these are corporate types.

          Mr. “The Champ” (1st time reading your stuff, me likey) — come on bruh, women have just as hardcore a preference as men do, 13 times out of 10. Some women, are attracted to thugs. Or at the absolute least, that persona and vice versa. Thankfully I’ve been blessed to be around a myriad of diff. types of people. And I’ve talked to women who will only date thugs. Heard of women who only date drug dealers. Just like I’ve met a “smart woman”, that wouldn’t give a man (true story), the time of day because he drove around in a ’94 Accord in 2008. So she just brushed him off. I’ve seen this brother’s portfolio, he owned his home and had a beachfront property on another coast. At the end of the day, its all preferences and generalizations. I’ve had conversations with women with 2 and 3 degrees, who won’t date a respectable, loving, well-read sanitation worker/garbage man, because he’s not on her level. She instead wants someone moreso with her pedigree and background. That’s remotely understandable. But when you shrink your pool of possibles like that, find one that fits the criteria, but things don’t click. Then what? Preferences (which are understandable) v. generalizations (of what could be what you need). Love and compatibility come in all forms, and I personally feel that there is a decent percentage of women (usually the extremely educated and more well-off types) that don’t fully grasp that concept.

          I like to tell my female friends who come to me for advice… you don’t have to lower your standards per se. But you do have to make them realistic.

          Just my thoughts.

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          • Ladies, gentlemen… whoever is listening. PLEASE, someone explain to me why there was so much tweeted/facebooked/etc. drama about a blog posting from a brotha named Slim Thugg?

            My question exactly. His name is mothertruckin’ Slim Thugg… What do you expect for Chrissakes?

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          • “a respectable, loving, well-read sanitation worker/garbage man”

            This false dichotomy comes up often in the unending discussion of 2010 of “Why Black women are single/need to lower their standards.” I do have to question, why is this person more plentiful for my 2-3 degree having self than someone who is formally educated?
            I do not doubt that there are men who have chosen blue collar work and spend their free hours reading literature and listening to NPR, but I imagine that this man is rather rare, like his degreed brethren.

            There may be several less well read yet, loving, sanitary workers. What do I have in common with them besides skin color, if I put such a premium on my education and career that I spent an additional 8 or more years earning additional degrees?

            It isn’t always perceived status or material wealth, as it is often hypothesized. Sometimes at the end of the day, I want to find someone who shares similar values. This might be a bigger road block in educated Black women finding someone to date. If the values difference is too great, no matter how open I am to dating different men, there will be failure.

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      • @Cheekie, oh how i thought you knew me. i wouldn’t dare come up in a post about upliftment of Black women and drop the precious P-word as a means of disproving something my partner in write said.

        though she is definitely not oh yee of little waist.

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        • “though she is definitely not oh yee of little waist.”

          Go sit down somewhere. If you’re already sitting, stand up, then sit back down again.

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    • How was splice?

      Me and Ms. Gundam saw get them to the greek which surprise the mess out of me cause P. Diddy was funny as hell. But, that African child video=Not-so-much

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    • “That lady on the left look like Splice.”

      she does!!! realmad at you for bringing that image back into my memory right before i go to bed.

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    • @Cheekie,

      I didn’t even see Splice, but that reference made me be momentarily mad at you and giggle (or shiggle) like crazy. Dayum you! (with Love :) ). Plus, I agree with your point.

      @Muze,

      Was it good? What the heyall was Splice spliced with? Was she a bat, a moth?

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      • @legitimate_soul

        …you just have to see it. she was spliced with some other organism they’d created in their lab. this goes back to the fact that white people are crazy. that was like 85% of my thoughts watching that movie.

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    • Ya’ll are killing me saying she look like Splice, when Splice was not that chick’s name! Wasn’t it Dren or something? lol

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      • lol, yeah I had a feelin’ that wasn’t e’en her name. I feel like those niccas that say, “You know that broad, Chelsea Lately? I love that bish!”

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      • @Andi

        i saw the movie and i still called her Splice during the whole thing. i specifically remember texting “ahhh shaat! no more ms nice splice!” lmbo.

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        • i saw the movie and i still called her Splice during the whole thing. i specifically remember texting “ahhh shaat! no more ms nice splice!” lmbo.

          if you sent that text to me, i probably would have deleted you from my address book forever

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          • LOL.

            well, twas an inter-state date, so he was at the movies watching too. … it was in context. i wouldn’t randomly text that to someone. lmbo. lol. yeah, we’re mad corny like that.

            but when he’s out of town, what can you do? i thought twas sweet. :)

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  2. So glad VSB addressed this. 2010 seems to be the year to rag on black women because its getting to be too much.

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  4. You know, I always go to my local “slim thug” or “fat mac” when it comes to relationship advice…

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      • “personally, i prefer to get advice from the neighborhood meth addict.”

        yooooo but why was there like a swat team raid of this house down the street from where i live recently?! they had a whole meth lab going. crazy.

        that’s what happens when you live around 2520s. no crack houses but definitely every other type of drug housing going on. smh.

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      • Exactly. This reminds me of when Dave Chappelle was talking about MTV interviewing Ja Rule after 9/11. I regularly say this in stressful situations to try to lighten the mood. “WHERE IS JA!?!? OOOHHH… I NEED SOMEBODY TO MAKE SENSE OF ALL THIS!!”

        LOL

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      • “Exactly. This reminds me of when Dave Chappelle was talking about MTV interviewing Ja Rule after 9/11. I regularly say this in stressful situations to try to lighten the mood. ‘WHERE IS JA!?!? OOOHHH… I NEED SOMEBODY TO MAKE SENSE OF ALL THIS!!’”

        LOL!! Agreed. On the one hand I’m annoyed because I’m over this messaging and I hate him for perpetuating it. On the other hand, I’m FROM Texas and I could give a sh*t about this ninja. He’s completely irrelevant (musically and otherwise), I halfway know who he is and not never did I EVER think he would be the source of anything approaching intelligent.

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    • @Kirk Lazarus, i actually go straight to my Ike Turner “how to have a successful relationship and bridge the gap between black men and black women” primer when i’m feeling particularly unsure about this whole man vs woman conundrum.

      also, whenever i feel like i start to feel violent, i go STRAIGHT for my Chris Brown “Don’t Hit That B*tch: Restraint 101″ manual.

      both have gotten me thru a lot of tough times.

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  5. I saw the brouhaha about Slim Thug all over Twitter yesterday but I’m refusing to read the article. He is irrelevant and I’m not giving him an audience.

    With that said, I’m a ride-or-die chick and will support my family, friends and man (shout-out to my e-boo, Humble) with all that I have (heart, time, finances, etc.). I think I share this with all true VSSs.

    As for the other stereotypes I believe they continue to exist because people continue to give them life like bad urban legends. Anyone who hates on Black women is missing out on epic greatness. How sad for them…

    P.S–Cheekie that broad DOES remind me of the thing from “Splice”! Why would you put that in my head that right before bed? You know I have nightmares :(

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    • Damn!

      I admit it, you got me. I perpetrated this foolishness so I could come and marvel in the beauty that is the black woman and pray upon the resulting inferiority complexes! So I can sell them relaxers and dietary supplements they don’t need.

      I would have gotten away with it, if it weren’t for you meddling kids VSBs!

      I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, I love women in general, but black women will forever have a special place in my heart. There is just a passion and a strength common among black women that I don’t always see in women of other races. Y’all are definitely wanted, and appreciated.

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      • I’mma stop commentin late at night, because this is…the third night that my comment has gone in the wrong spot.

        How you doin‘ MsEsquire?

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    • With that said, I’m a ride-or-die chick and will support my family, friends and man (shout-out to my e-boo, Humble) with all that I have (heart, time, finances, etc.). I think I share this with all true VSSs.

      here here!!! im supportive of YOU only when you’re not tryna fight a battle you cant win. love ya like a play cuz! xoxox

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    • Slim Thug is garbage. From his foolish 2-lukewarm-singles rap career to his dirty Johnny Dang collection platinum grill. He dated and cheated on LeToya Luckett (formerly of Destiny’s Child) and runs around Houston like he’s a boss. GTFOH! Who in the hell asked him about ANYTHING in the first place? VIBE must be really struggling for fodder.

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      • Yeah, Slim had a good thang going with LeToya. He’s a good guy though and LeToya’s REALLY a good gurl. *Call me Toya!* He just got caught up in dat life. Champ hit it on the head, he messes wit so many rats that he don’t know or don’t care when a good thang is around him. But yeah, i’d pass on any advice he’s got to dish out..

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      • Plus I heard on Twitter that he got his own cousin pregnant. WTF. His blog shoulda had a disclaimer “I’m done with Black women…unless they kin.”

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        • “His blog shoulda had a disclaimer “I’m done with Black women…unless they kin.”

          Dead.

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    • “As for the other stereotypes I believe they continue to exist because people continue to give them life like bad urban legends.”

      This.

      And it’s mostly a minority who continue to give them life, but just enough to make it seem like the entire population believes it, which causes the other gender to get defensive and bring out stereotypes, which causes the first gender to get defensive and…..well I think you see where this is going.

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      • @ That Damn African

        You’re totally right! It is an ugly and vicious cycle. That’s why I try not to speak negativity over Black men. Too many women are quick to say “Ninjas ain’t ish!!” when some dude messes up but the truth is THAT particular ninja ain’t ish!! I’m single and I’ve had some bad dating experiences but I know and love plenty of great (not just good) Black men. I refuse to buy into the hype.

        We all (men and women) need to do a better job of living lives that rage against the stereotypes.

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        • Too many women are quick to say “Ninjas ain’t ish!!” when some dude messes up but the truth is THAT particular ninja ain’t ish!!

          REWIND. I agree. I used to play into that stupid stereotype and missed out on a lot of good brothas because of that brainwashed mentality. Thank goodness I woke up

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        • “Too many women are quick to say “Ninjas ain’t ish!!” when some dude messes up but the truth is THAT particular ninja ain’t ish!! I’m single and I’ve had some bad dating experiences but I know and love plenty of great (not just good) Black men.”

          YES. And what we as women need to realize is that we’re not only doing brothas a disservice by lumping them in with not-so-good-brothas, we’re doing OURSELVES one too…by missing out on a great potential love. If women think of it that way, I don’t think it would be such an huge occurence.

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        • “Too many women are quick to say “Ninjas ain’t ish!!” when some dude messes up but the truth is THAT particular ninja ain’t ish!! ”

          *THIS!* Too many times when I was younger than I am now, I said that…I try REALLY HARD these days not to make generalizations, because there are too many good/great Black men out there for me to say ALL of them ain’t worth a damn…

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    • Dang! Dang! Dang!

      First CBG and now Humble One is e-boo’d up too??? Why do I keep misssing this e-boo train??

      With yesterday’s comments about VSB lurkers, I know there’s still some great e-boos out there.

      *leaves to search archives for my own e-boo*

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    • @MsEsquire77, I saw the brouhaha about Slim Thug all over Twitter yesterday but I’m refusing to read the article.

      you don’t know what you’re missing. you should totally read that article. it provided all the comic relief i needed yesterday. it had unicorns and a fire breathing dragon and cooking mulattoes.

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      • “it had unicorns and a fire breathing dragon and cooking mulattoes.”

        PJ, I happened to be drinking hot tea when I read this. I almost choked AND burned myself!! Why do you hate me?!

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        • “PJ, I happened to be drinking hot tea when I read this. I almost choked AND burned myself!! Why do you hate me?!”

          I cackled out loud when I read this…poor thing…

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    • @MsEsquire77

      “With that said, I’m a ride-or-die chick and will support my family, friends and man (shout-out to my e-boo, Humble) with all that I have (heart, time, finances, etc.). I think I share this with all true VSSs.”

      What up? It was cool talking to you Nick and Cheekie last night. You all are too funny.

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  6. When I started typing this, I was second. I never comment, but I read everyday.

    Anyway, much love to VSB. And as a very supportive, very loving black woman who does bikram yoga daily, despises thugs (because I never know what they’re saying…), and has been known to slob a knob or two if I’m feeling fiesty, I would just like to make it known most men who have these “issues” with black women ARENT the types of men that most black (or white. or Hispanic. or Asian. or secure. or sane.) women would look twice at anyway…

    I’m going to go read a book.

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    • “and has been known to slob a knob or two if I’m feeling fiesty”

      @lady_solitaire I don’t know you but you have touched my heart! Also, I co-sign your entire comment :)

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    • I would just like to make it known most men who have these “issues” with black women ARENT the types of men that most black (or white. or Hispanic. or Asian. or secure. or sane.) women would look twice at anyway…

      right. i can spot an i-only-love-beckys from a mile away. if like HER, you damn sure wouldnt like me. and im ok with that. you couldnt hang and i dont have time to train boys to men. *kanye shrug*

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    • “When I started typing this, I was second. I never comment, but I read everyday. ”

      welcome and sh*t. and chill with all that book-readin. vsb gonna give you all the education and entertainment you need this year

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    • I would just like to make it known most men who have these “issues” with black women ARENT the types of men that most black (or white. or Hispanic. or Asian. or secure. or sane.)

      e-dabs for this. See this is why I love VSB I’m meeting so many ppl with similar ideology and chet. I don’t feel lonely anymore

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    • ^^^^^^^^^THIS! 100% Cosign

      I saw over on another site the foolishness that was his blog and thought, “here we go…” I hate any type of shade that black women and men bring to the table about each other. It’s fodder for the media to say “look, ever they think it.” (well, it would be media fodder if Slim Thug was more actually relevant) It’s not enough that we’re assaulted DAILY in the media by stereotypes and mis-information, but to have it come from another black person is too much. This “year of the jump-off” has officially turned into the “year to hate on Black women.”

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  7. aww.. i thank you for this champ..
    i have been the one to offer a tad bit “TOO MUCH” support.. cuz i felt like i needed to overcompensate for all the black women that didn’t.. kind of like the fact that i overtip like a MUG!
    then we started talkin about getting married..and i had to bring homeboy’s head outta the clouds..
    “Your phone is turned off, GET A JOB!”
    i think the stereotypes are something that people cling on to to make themselves feel better at night.. it’s cozy to think “black women don’t give the bobblehead.. that’s why i can’t date them”.. and then hold on to it to rationalize your decision…
    other stereotypes-
    1. black women don’t know how to let a man be a man…
    i could go into the psychology of this.. but i don’t wanna… besides we’re smart people.. you can figure it out..
    2. black women will try to trap you…
    3. black women don’t take care of men anymore.. trust me homeboy, i’m a nurturer.. i’m just DYING to find someone that’s worth it.. TRUST ME!!
    4. she’s gonna suffocate you in your sleep…
    alright.. it might’ve been true that ONE time… but that relationship was no good i tell you!! NO GOOD!!

    ok.. i’m done… *makes counselors appointment..*

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        • Honestly, you ain’t gotta break yourself to overtip, but tipping appropriately tells me you have an appreciation for the server’s effort and are able to step outside of yourself.

          On that note, I usually make it a point to find out the server’s or bartender’s name because it gets their attention much faster then “Hey you!”. Y’know, the cocktail party effect….that and common decency.

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          • lol.. i usually am the one reading the nametags.. and then i’ll drop it into conversation “oh, thanks Kevin”. and watch the double-take.. works everytime..
            i mean, i know how i feel when i hear the “hey you.. or the psst”.. why wouldn’t i respect someone’s name.. especially when i just want people to use mine..
            and if something’s exceptional.. i suaully write a letter or make a phone call to the establishment.. not really for my local iHop.. but if i’m blessing a P.F.Chang’s or such.. then yeah, the manager will know when you’ve been spectacular..
            i just might have too much time on my hands..
            hmmm… *resumes thinker’s pose..*

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      • Yeah, I’m big on making sure to tip especially after hearing how servers have to split with busboys…even sometimes the bartender if he/she has to make drinks with the meal. It’s a shame especially considering they primarily rely on tips for salary.

        I remember I saw this HUGE table at sit-down a chinese restaurant, it had to be about 10-15 people deep and when the server came to get the tip (the group had left), she yelled out, “A whole dolla!”. I died. My motto is (and this doesn’t include extreme cases like absolutely terrible service), “If you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford to eat there”.

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    • #3 in your other stereotypes pretty much has my name written all over it…I KNOW i’m a nurturer, it just really won’t come out until I find someone who is appreciative of it…beyond that, I’m still nurturing, it’s just not on the same level as it would be for my man…#shrug

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    • @Nick
      4. she’s gonna suffocate you in your sleep…
      alright.. it might’ve been true that ONE time… but that relationship was no good i tell you!! NO GOOD!!

      Bwah hahahahahahahaha! I’ve been known to pinch the hell out of him in his sleep. Don’t yell at me in front of your boy…EVER! *evil laugh*…and I broke skin too.

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  8. Slim Thugga’s blog post is a prime example of why some rappers shouldn’t blog. Between him and Kanye, it’s pretty much a crapshoot. I dig dude’s music, even met him a few times, but that Vibe post was that hot bullisht. Black women aren’t supportive huh? Funny, I wish I could get my time back from when I was helping my x with his get rich quick schemes ( pre paid legal, noni juice, amway, herbalife, etc.) and encouraging him as if I really believed in that mess, but then again, BW aren’t supportive huh? Or making home cooked meals for an x who was in graduate school and surviving on ramen. Hmmmm. As far as the dome game? I’ll never tell…

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    • “Funny, I wish I could get my time back from when I was helping my x with his get rich quick schemes ( pre paid legal, noni juice, amway, herbalife, etc.) and encouraging him as if I really believed in that mess, but then again, BW aren’t supportive huh? ”

      this sh*t right here n*gga??? truth and nothing but. my life five years ago. smh. lol

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      • Let the CHURCH say AMEN!

        Now ninjas are on this Organo Gold Coffee/Tea get rich quick scheme. GTFOHWTBS!

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      • I know I’m late and no one will see it, but don’t forget about Primerica! Lawd, I sat in recruitment meetings and day-long trainings just to be supportive…smh. I don’t regret it, but I can NEVER get those hours back…lol

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    • The crazy thing is he wasn’t even blogging. It appears as though he was being interviewed in some sense, he claims in a joking way, and I guess Vibe transcribed it and called it a blog.

      All that to say, he’s a lazy blogger so he’s sure as hell a lazy thinker.

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    • You’re a better woman than me. Pre-paid legal and Noni Juice? I would’ve ran, not walked in the opposite direction. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for supporting dreams but if people really got rich off that stuff we would all be rich.

      *finally deletes ex-boyfriends business plan from her MacBook*

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      • Girl, the things you do when you’re in love (or think you’re in love and clearly dyckmatized). Oh I see ya Liz:-)

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    • Slim Thugga’s blog post is a prime example of why some rappers shouldn’t blog.

      who cares if he blogs? im actually more comfortable with ppl who are straight forward with their assumptions and prejudices lol. i feel like he can speak his mind all he wants, its not like im paying attention (except when its all over my twitter timeline lol)

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    • Or being pseudo supportive when he decides to not graduate from Yale because he doesn’t want to write one paper and he needs to find himself…I’ve heard tell of these business plans. Sigh.

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    • @miss t-lee, Slim Thugga’s blog post is a prime example of why some rappers shouldn’t blog.

      i totally disagree with this. i want him to keep talking to people and giving his opinion out to people. without slim thug or kanye, how will any of us form our own thoughts?

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  9. EVERYONE gives black men support and encouragement and extra bites at the apple.
    From the time they are born and supported by public assistance to the time a collection plate is passed at church to cover funeral expenses, black men receive metric buttloads of support.
    And don’t let them be talented at a sport. They’ll pass grades they never even attended. They’ll receive scholarships for which they never applied.

    Anyone who turns down an educated sista due to 0ral chex concerns should just suck himself off and save all women the trouble.

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  10. Big girls give the great head. Followed by ugly girls. White girls at best get the bronze medal. Big, ugly, white girls is the lady combination that gives the exemplary dome. I thought this was common knowledge.

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    • *thinks back on all of those “odd, interracial couples” she’s witnessed and couldn’t understand*

      …this is making so much sense right now.

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      • Those unfortunate women are said to do ANYTHING. I would not know. I have never been able to do to pull the trigger on bagging Snorlax.

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      • Resident GRitS (love your name) thanks for bringing me into the light. I’ll never SMH at those odd couples again!

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        • I feel so enlightened right now. It really does make all the sense. I just thought he had low self-esteem and she wanted a mandingo.

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        • @ AtypicalLibrarian

          Thanks, hun :) But, don’t thank me…thank Dash. I’m glad he broke it down for us both. Cuz, no, my brotha…it was not common knowledge.

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    • “Big girls give the great head. Followed by ugly girls. White girls at best get the bronze medal. Big, ugly, white girls is the lady combination that gives the exemplary dome.”

      i first saw this when the comment notification was emailed to my phone last night, and it literally made me laugh aloud for 2 minutes

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      • Is that why i see so many brothas with these busted fat white chicks? hmmm, maybe i need to stop taking these sistahs to nice restaurants and get on these dollar Menunaire deals for a becky…jk.

        Any person who seems like they dont get regular lovin seems like they always work EXTRA hard for the D. They be on a mission like they have something to prove!

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    • “maybe i’ve just been lucky. maybe my personal remembrances, anecdotes, and experiences with sistas are uncommon, but every. single. one. of the black woman i know are extremely willing to offer more support…”

      Champ- correct me if I’m wrong, but you’ve never really dated outside of your race right? What if there are cultural differences when it comes to perceived support? If you’ve only dated sistas then the perceived variation in support might simply be due to within group differences, what of without group differences? What does support from a mami, 2520, or Indian look/feel like compared to that of a sista.

      “black women love thugs no. silly women love thugs. big difference” True but
      I have to ask, aren’t we as black men unparalleled in our thugnificence?

      “(educated) black women hate giving head…and are terrible at it when they do”

      Personally I think oral sex should be reserved for more substantive relationships, but damn how you gonna be wifey and stilllll be frontin “on that tip?” (PUN DEF INTENDED) I don’t. Again cultural differences, and its not just 2520’s, the mami’s, in my experience don’t front “on that tip” either.

      Obviously the haterade spewed at sistas are based on generalizations, but we all suffer from all types of generalizations from time to time. (If this sounds like an excuse, it is, we all do it, and get it- deal) For those of you that have bf, SO’s, husbands, ect how would they answer if asked about your enthusiasm “on that tip.” If you are confident that you’d get glowing reviews, more power to you. If not, then what ever, to each their own, just something to think about I guess.

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      • “Champ- correct me if I’m wrong, but you’ve never really dated outside of your race right? What if there are cultural differences when it comes to perceived support? If you’ve only dated sistas then the perceived variation in support might simply be due to within group differences, what of without group differences? What does support from a mami, 2520, or Indian look/feel like compared to that of a sista.

        you’re right in that i’ve never really dated outside of my race. but, short of literally putting me on their backs and carrying me around, i can’t imagine women being more supportive than the ones i’ve been with. and, some of these women were crazy, and a couple were assholes, lol…but they still were willing to provide encouragement and support when needed.

        welcome and sh*t, btw

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        • you can get your chance with the current Afro Romance advertisement at the top of the page. I find this ad incredibly funny on this site encouraging interracial couples. LOL

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    • Ahhh that makes a lot of sense actually. The majority of interracial couples I see, the white women are big and ugly. I always questioned this phenomenon because if black men are using the “black women let themselves go thus they are undateable” excuse, then why is u dating white Precious?

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  11. 1) I love you The Champ 2)I wish people wouldn’t care what Slim Thugga has to say as it’s rarely edifying 3)I disagree about all women liking thugs, but agree on all your other points.4) I have been known to date 2520s, but I have a little brother who knows how much I love and believe in him. Hell, I even encourage his knuckle head friends just because I believe in support 5) keep on crime fighting

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  12. Longtime lurker coming out of hiding :)

    This is exactly why I heart this blog. I never took offense to Slim Thug’s comments because you honestly cant expect too much from a rapper from the south that raps about cars, clothes and hoes. It’s in his job description to say ignorant things…

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  13. I forgot to add, ol’ boy with cream cheese? Wow,just wow. He should have just asked for the whole tub and ate it with a spoon. High cholesterol game proper.

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    • lol, he was eating it out of those little packets they give you to spread on a bagel. i actually think i was more upset about him eating it with his thumbs

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      • Yeah, I’m still trippin’ over that. It’s like he looked at his thumb one day all, “Ya know what, this finger most resembles a spoon.”

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  14. First of all, *slow clap* to Slim Thug for his cavalier tweet that he broke up with LeToya Luckett after he cheated and got another girl pregnant. That kid’s going to have a great life.

    Second, what educated Black woman wants to cook and clean after a man who can’t be bothered to bathe or iron his clothes? There’s a difference between being your girlfriend and being your mama.

    The good thing is, this scandal won’t affect his career. #SHADE

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  15. you had me @ more support than one of aretha’s bras

    lmao. wowsers. that would be a LOT of support if reefuh’s bras actually supportered her breasts, which im not convinced they do. gravity just refuses to deal with them sh*ts.

    ANYWAY…. i have nothing to add at this time (as i’m still mourning the recent loss), but i do want to just say i think ppl who are offended by this “thin scrub” whathisname character are wasting their breath. my grad student stipend is probably more than he pulls in record sales. and i still remember us being on the same flight to puerto rico– ridin coach. he’s a nobody. ive heard worse things about black women’s “lack of” [fill in the blank] from even slightly more credible sources.

    id rather spend more time worrying about how i can be supportive of MY BOO, Kevin so he and the rest of the boys can win this damn series. much more important.

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    • @Gem
      I’ll assume that “MY BOO” comment was directed at me. Apparently, I’m going to have to show you better than I can tell you. ***heads to Wal-mart to stock up on Vaseline and box cutters***

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    • I shall not wear green again. Instead I’ll wear my Black Irish shirt on Thursday.

      (psst…I still think the Celtics need cuter players)

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      • GO CELTICS!!!

        I think that Jesus Shuttlesworth is cute. Willing to give him the VSS dome-a-thon. LOL

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        • I do too. On one of the lost episodes of The VSB Files I made such a statement and the Champ and Panama disagreed that women think he is cute.

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          • yes Liz…of course Jesus/Ray is adorable, Panama & Champie may want to rethink their disagreeance …lurvemesomejesusshuttlesworth* not really a fan of anysportsteams that are from Boston due to seriously annoying azz fans, however I’m always rooting for whoeverthehell is playing against LA* & being an ol skool NY Knicks fan ..still got it for DocRivers so all that said #No to Lakers in 5-Go Celtics

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          • I do too. On one of the lost episodes of The VSB Files I made such a statement and the Champ and Panama disagreed that women think he is cute.

            no, i said that i think he’s an asshole. his looks have nothing to do with it and sh*t

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          • Ray is okay, KG has always been FINE! The rest of the team – ehh… & Gasol is really, really GROSS! LOL

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        • maybe I have been on the non-HBCU campus for too long but Pau Gasol does something to me…(I’m probably the only one…but still)…

          Celtics…Paul Pierce all day (but I am a Laker’s fan all day)!!!

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    • “lmao. wowsers. that would be a LOT of support if reefuh’s bras actually supportered her breasts, which im not convinced they do. gravity just refuses to deal with them sh*ts.”

      i think she actually might have hired verne troyer to lay on her stomach and hold them up for her. seriously, when have you ever seen aretha franklin and verne troyer at the same time? never. exactly!

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  16. Stupid stereotype about BW? Well the one i’m tired of hearing is that we are stingy whether it be financially or otherwise. Let it be known that I (and a lot of my friends) are willing to share our time, money etc. with our male counterparts if he is Worth it, and willing to do the same if a situation arises. Don’t expect me to do anything for you, that you wouldn’t do for me.

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    • the one stereotype about black women i’m tired of hearing is the “we don’t exercise because we don’t like to wash our hair and that is why more black women are overweight.and even when we don’t exercise ,we STILL don’t wash it therefore it stinks . “

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  17. This post was funny from the pic (I thought they were contestants from RuPaul’s Drag Race) to the tags (the day cream cheese will forever be ruined) and everything in between. I too, have been guilty of offering more support than one of Re Re’s bras.

    My contribution to the list-o-stereotypes is that Black women are lazy. Of course there are some lazy women, but most of the Black women I know are some of the hustlingest beings you’ll ever meet. Whether it’s the girl doing hair and arching eyebrows out her dorm room or single the single moms holding it down at work and home and so on Black women get it done.

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    • “My contribution to the list-o-stereotypes is that Black women are lazy.”

      you know, i dont know if i’ve heard this one before. not saying that it doesn’t exist, just that i don’t think ive heard anyone say this

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      • Hmm, now that I think about it, I’ve never heard it either. Black PEOPLE are lazy, yes I’ve heard that, but have never heard women singled out…

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    • Where I’m from there are a lot of unemployed Black women who have children by men who won’t support them. Instead of getting a job they continue to have children in order to get gub’ment assistance. Instead of caring for those children they put them in subsidized daycare and sit at home watching Tyra and eating crab legs paid for by my tax dollars, thus perpetuating the Black women are lazy stereotype.

      Of course, you both make a valid point that the Black people are lazy stereotype is more common.

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  18. Several stereotypes that I encounter are:
    The “mad, black woman” and the “hyper-sexed Black woman.”
    True, there are times when I’m mad and there are times when I am feeling hyper sexual. Hell, I’ll even admit to there being times when one is directly proportional to the other but, I’ll be damned if I am ever both of these all the time. I mean, its portrayed as if we are either eff’n or cussing…sometimes simultaneously but that’s a whole ‘nother story.

    Don’t even get me started on my telling people that I’m vegetarian and the first thing they ask is “Sooooo, you don’t even eat CHICKEN?”

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    • “don’t even get me started on my telling people that I’m vegetarian and the first thing they ask is “Sooooo, you don’t even eat CHICKEN?”

      That reminds me of Mr Mister’s aunt who upon learning that I didn’t eat pork asked if I was a vegetarian…what one has to do with the other me no know.

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  19. Stupid stereotypes, you say? I got a homeboy (who is Black) that’s notorious for dropping the “Black women have too much attitude” line.

    When you toss that one you there, you probably either don’t know how to deal with confrontation (with not only Black women, but with anyone), or you’re really saying “that b*tch is crazy,” a statement that can be applied to anyone of any race.

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    • “I got a homeboy (who is Black) that’s notorious for dropping the “Black women have too much attitude” line.”

      lol, i can’t believe i forgot about this one. dammit, i need a do over

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    • “I got a homeboy (who is Black) that’s notorious for dropping the “Black women have too much attitude” line.”

      Yeah, this is definitely a big one.

      Like, you I figure they don’t know how to deal with confrontation. And to add to that, they’re not man enough to handle a woman with an opinion. lol

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      • I’m sure…but after that unfortunate slob-gone-wrong you described, you might want to be a little more discriminating about whom you trust your man-man to. Each contestant should probably come (no pun intended) with a list of references and current phone numbers. Know what you’re dealing with before you get to the point of no return.

        Btw, the whole contest reference immediately made me think of How High. Classic.

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  21. I find Black women being very supportive, overly at times. I’m definitely guilty of it. No thugs, thanks… I have some confirmation that my head game is pretty tight… & I’m in the gym so get off me, lol!

    As for other stereotypes, the “Black women are gold-diggers” is the one that gets me. Of course there all some, we probably all know of some. But get to know ME for who I am, don’t chalk me up like that w/o knowing me. I’ve never asked a man for $, never accepted $ from a man (except my dad when I was a child). What I want is someone to come to the table w/ something comparable to what I have – not more or less, & I’m definitely not digging for anything you have.

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  22. Slim Thug can go kick rocks and die. Like you’ve already stated, he speaks about a very specific demographic of women (black or white) who are like leeches on any brotha (or non-brotha) who’s got a job, good credit and a savings account. I really can’t relate to Slim’s overgeneralization about black women and his lazy call to action, because this is not how I operate in any relationship I’ve ever had. And the sistas I know have bent over backwards to support brothas who were far from “paid.” I think if any regular brotha reading this can identify with the proverbial gold digger type, than they need to look closer at the type of black women they’re dating. With that said, I’m all for supporting a brotha-emotionally, physically, and mentally. Just ask Jeffonte…

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    • “Slim Thug can go kick rocks and die. ”

      i tried to go past this and not comment, but every time i scrolled, i cracked up. so blunt. too funny.

      ok i’m going to bed now.

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  23. that cream cheese thumb guy? gross. big 2520 men are the grossest eaters ever. i’m sorry, but they are. i’ve seen one too many incidences of this grossness to not believe it so.

    anyhoo, i heartchu for this post.

    i don’t love thugs, i take care of my body, i am VERY supportive of my (if i had one) man and black men in general, and i shant speak on any other listed quality, cause i’m a Lady. :-) lol.

    i saw the uproar on twitter yesterday and like i said then, i don’t trust anyone who consciously calls themselves ‘slim thug’ to give me any valid revelation about myself as a black woman. i just don’t. and he’s not even slim so we know he’s a liar anyhow. lol.

    but, someone RT’d this yesterday on twitter from him: “i rap about cars clothes and hoes all y’all soul sistas and soul brothas are not my fans so I dnt give a f*** what y’all think”

    …so i guess he said it all.

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    • 1) no curse words and you will likely end up clearing the moderation filter.

      2) I like how Slim thug divides us into two camps: Soul Sisters/Brothers and whatever contingency of chicken heads and ninjas he runs with. I fit into neither category and yet I disagreed with his rant about black women.

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      • lol. sorry. forgot to edit the slim thug’s ninjaness before i pressed reply.

        and i guess in his narrow mind, there are only kat stacks and erykah badus. everyone else needs to just pick either lane. smh.

        i haven’t read the ‘blog’ but maybe i ought to.

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    • @Muze

      “i rap about cars clothes and hoes all y’all soul sistas and soul brothas are not my fans so I dnt give a f*** what y’all think””

      Wow he said this? I like some of his music too. “Move Somethin” is my ish. I wear Gucci sneakers, LOVE CARS, and women. At the same time I like Dead Prez and Immortal Technique so don’t throw cats like me in your nag champa smelling, dashiki wearing, emo-ninja box. This is a bonafide “monte carlo ninja” comment.

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      • @Humble_One

        “so don’t throw cats like me in your nag champa smelling, dashiki wearing, emo-ninja box. This is a bonafide “monte carlo ninja” comment.”

        LMBO! right. he clearly is lacking some internal sunshine. no one named slim thug has the right to categorize anyone. periods and point blanks.

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      • Hey e-boo, I enjoyed our QT last night… **blows e-kisses**

        However, you can’t be hating on Nag Champa! It’s the signature scent for my bedroom and I need to go re-stock.

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    • “i rap about cars clothes and hoes all y’all soul sistas and soul brothas are not my fans so I dnt give a f*** what y’all think”

      Don’t forget he said this about 30 minutes before he locked his tweets. What kinda not so Slim Thug ish is that????

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    • @Muze
      i just don’t. and he’s not even slim so we know he’s a liar anyhow. lol.

      This made me spit choke. LMAO

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    • but, someone RT’d this yesterday on twitter from him: “i rap about cars clothes and hoes all y’all soul sistas and soul brothas are not my fans so I dnt give a f*** what y’all think”

      lol, yeah. i alluded to this in the second paragraph. he lives on a different planet than the majority of the vsb’s and vss’s, so he probably does encounter the types of women he was talking about more often than an average “soul brotha and sista”. .

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  25. sidenote:

    lmao @ the day cream cheese will forever be ruined

    but this brings me to an important question: since when did cream cheese come in a cup?? are you sure it wasnt sour cream?? or perhaps cottage cheese?? cottage cheese is actually waaaaaay worse– that crap makes me gag more than a ho-be fellating fan on game day *smh*

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    • “cottage cheese is actually waaaaaay worse– that crap makes me gag more than a ho-be fellating fan on game day ”

      *DEAD*
      *DEAD HAS ARISEN*

      Yeah, I feel ya on the cottage cheese. That ish makes my tummy cry and my taste buds wail.

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        • I don’t think that my taste buds are mature enough for the texture. Maybe when I’m 65 or something. (I feel the same way about oat meal)

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        • exactly!!!!! im such a texture snob its ridiculous. i can like one food and not like it prepared another way simply because of texture issues. but much like my thighs, my taste buds dont deserve the displeasure of cottage cheese. and it irks me to no end that i have labmates who eat that mess in front of me and actually ENJOY it! *gagging*

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          • “but much like my thighs, my taste buds dont deserve the displeasure of cottage cheese.”

            I can’t even begin to tell you how this statement made my day. lmao

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      • Cottage cheese always looked a lil’ yeasty to me…also, I’ve seen babies bring up milk with the exact same texture…
        Needless to say, I don’t fool with it…

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      • nah, cottage cheese has COT to be that narstiness. have you ever heard “like cottage cheese” used to describe something in a positive way? i can’t touch it.

        ..that isht and mayonnaise…2520s galore on that stuff…

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    • “since when did cream cheese come in a cup?”

      it was a tiny package. the type coffee shops give you to spread on bagels. and yea, cottage cheese is a f*cking abomination

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  26. seriously, truer words have never been spoken!!! Seriously, you hit this nail on the head. Like, I don’t even have anything else to say other than THANK YOU.

    Go somewhere and be blessed. You deserve it :)

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  27. I completely agree with that the piling on of black women is wrong.. Ive only dated black women and of course the supportive thing is wrong, as far as the other two stereotypes, (i know this will probably not be received very well..lol) but i do think that there are a lot of toxic memes in black CULTURE (men and women) and I think poor diets and an over infatuation with “street life” are two of those issues..

    Now I agree that there are systemic reasons FOR these issues, but I don’t think it does us well to act like they are not there. However, to ascribe it just to the women in our culture is of course wrong, especially with regards to the infatuation with hood ish, which I personally think is probably more prevalent in black men than women.. ok, let the pillorying begin..

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    • I kinda agree with you on the diet tip. I think black people as a whole don’t take care of themselves, not just black women, and I think it’s a systematic problem that comes form our slavery days. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks the man has concocted such a plan where we define our culture to include unhealthy foods so that we die off earlier. And pretty much that’s what happening.

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  28. On Slim Thug:

    Like I said on Twitter, I kinda wish I could see a news montage of people destroying their Slim Thug CDs, but no one has any.

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      • Re: the Fubu commercial…

        1. Oh, we’re calling it “FB” now? Why do companies think that ‘altering the name’ of a product will somehow change its appeal to the masses? The only successful name change I can think of is KFC…and I heard they had to change b/c of that “clone meat” scenario Katt warned us about.

        2. If you’re a company attempting to make a comeback, whyyyy would you hire Slim Thug to be your spokesman? Considering the way he butchers the language, I’d be amazed if anyone watching would be able to identify the brand.

        3. Did this commercial ever air ANYwhere?

        4. Too bad he had to use Jay-Z’s lyrics as part of his “script,” ol’ unoriginalazznicca.

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  29. I didn’t finish reading Slim Thugs comments. I’m personally tired of Black men saying this. I find it funny that the Black men I hear say this are at the bottom of scale as far as character. I’ve noticed that when Black men say this they mean the want a woman that will sit down, shut up, and let them do what they want when they want unchecked. While I have encountered and observed women that are like this I can say that the majority of Black women I’ve seen were the opposite. Most of the time what I see is Black women being overly supportive to bum arse ninjas that don’t deserve it and ignoring men that need and appreciate that support.

    “black women don’t take care of their bodies”

    I wouldn’t say this but, I would be lying if I said I see Black women in the gym as much as 2520 women. I’ve been working out in gyms for 10 years and I’ve never seen an equal or just a bit lower amount of Black women in the gym compared to 2520 women. And I stay in Detroit so it can’t be location.

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    • I’ve noticed that when Black men say this they mean the want a woman that will sit down, shut up, and let them do what they want when they want unchecked.

      truf. i cant even be bothered with that mindset in the first place.

      and as far as the number of black women in the gym? we dont have equal representation in terms of population numbers in this country, why should we be more represented in a gym setting?

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      • @Gem of the Ocean

        “and as far as the number of black women in the gym? we dont have equal representation in terms of population numbers in this country, why should we be more represented in a gym setting?”

        Thats why I said I’m in Detroit. Detroit is the largest majority Black city in the country. With so many Black folks here in Detroit and its border cities populatiion numbers don’t count. I don’t expect it to be equal but it should at least be significantly visible.

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        • @Humble_One

          Detroit also has one of the largest populations of overweight to obese black women in the country. people, actually. sooooo… idk if that’d be a good observation. i’m sure the gyms in say, California have a more balanced atmosphere.

          maybe. lol

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          • right. i think its the mindset of ppl in a particular location. im from cali, and most cities in the state have very low minority numbers. but it seems like EVERY black middle-class person i know (male and female) who still lives there stays in a gym. socal, particularly, is all about the LOOK of “hollywood” so nobody really wants to go without their perfect body.

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        • I have girlfriends that keep pledging to go to the gym, but they have to figure out what to do with their hair first. I workout several times a week and my hair is never happy about it. Sad, I know.

          Though it should be mentioned that I don’t see a whole slew of other minorities in the gym. BW aren’t alone in that problem.

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          • I’m loc’d so it’s a little easier for me but I’ve licked the hair thing – it’s all about scarves. Have 2 – wear one TIGHT (& slightly over the hairline) during the workout, & when that one gets soaked, put on the dry one for at least 30 min. after working out. Keeps it fresher longer, particularly edges.

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        • It might be my location (Houston – Westchase)… but my gym is FULL to the brim with black women… FULL. We even have to take numbers for the Kickboxing class… Btw, the kickboxing instructor – a black woman- is featured in the newest Beachbody invention Turbo Fire to be released soon… But I’ll concede that it might just be my particular gym…

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    • @Humble_One, While I have encountered and observed women that are like this I can say that the majority of Black women I’ve seen were the opposite. Most of the time what I see is Black women being overly supportive to bum arse ninjas that don’t deserve it and ignoring men that need and appreciate that support.

      you’re pandering. lol. stop it. 3′s don’t pander, kicko.

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      • @Panama Jackson

        “you’re pandering. lol. stop it. 3’s don’t pander, kicko.”

        nah son. I’m keeping it real and not pandering. I don’t pander it’s not in my blood. FYI I’m a former member of the HOH movement. So kissing arse for play ain’t in my forte’. I’m still a 1.5 that doesn’t pander.

        CLC 4-life

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        • i really hope HOH is not homies over h*es. i’m dead if so.

          and please tell me what a CLC is.

          and also, boooooo you for ignoring me on twitter. ion want your e-boo to cut me, but when i speak, you speak (just like that)…or when i move you move… or whatever. ludacris invaded my brain for a moment. lol. point is… i said hi!

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          • @Muze

            My bad on missing your tweet. I didn’t notice you followed me until Cheekie told me. I am following you so we can keep the laughs coming.

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  30. Don’t exactly mean to call you out, but I do smell some pandering here. That said, if I were you, I’d probably have written a similar post. But since I’m not you, I get to pretend I have some wisdom that doesn’t come from a slight amount of hindsight on this.

    In my dating experience, which has just included 3 races, everyone has been very supportive of me. I even have folks who want to support me despite me unambiguously making it clear that mini kamakula will be focusing his attentions elsewhere.

    I dislike stereotypes when I feel they are incorrectly used. My current and I use stereotypes as a way to tease each other and up the chexual innuendo. Aside from that though, any other usage seems foolish if it’s not being made fun of.

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    • Don’t exactly mean to call you out, but I do smell some pandering here. That said, if I were you, I’d probably have written a similar post. But since I’m not you, I get to pretend I have some wisdom that doesn’t come from a slight amount of hindsight on this.

      this is why you remain one of my favorite commentators and sh*t.

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      • kamakula: I bet you say that to all your commentators.
        Champ: No, no – you really are one of my faves.
        kamakula: then why wasn’t I on your list of fav bloggers?
        Champ: *crickets*

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  31. One stereotype that really seems to be commonly accepted, to the point where it’s unspoken even, is that all Black women are 1)thirsty to be in a loving, long-term relationship and/or 2)want to get married and have 2.3 kids.

    Umm, no. *Some* of us have taken a deeper look over the white picket fence of yore and decided, “Nahh, not for me.”

    Also (and admittedly this is shallow), I can’t really work myself into a frenzy over what Slim Thug thinks or says. If it had been Idris Elba I would be upset. That crap John Mayer pulled a few months ago smarted. Because these are men who I would entertain the thought of sleeping with. Otherwise, what do I care?

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    • The assumption that we all wanna be in long relationships RIGHT NOW is interesting. Sometimes I feel pressured into feeling this way because everyone keeps saying this is how I should feel. But truthfully, I’m good. I really am concerned more about having a long last relationship when I’m ready, rather than force one to happen now. because truthfully, I’m not ready right now. I’m a little too selfish and haphazard. I think many of my black female friends feel the same way. We ain’t trynna be married right now, but would rather be secure in knowing that it will happen someday, when we’re ready to settle down.

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      • Exactly! There is a World of difference between wanting companionship at some point and wanting it all at this moment. Truth is, marriage was the last thing on my mind (and the last thing I’m prepared for), until every media outlet started telling me it was impossible for me and what I needed to fix to acquire it. It was like some awful Ke$ha song that keeps playing over and over again until one day you find yourself singing along and you don’t know how/when you learned the words. Even this weekend, there was some article in the AJC (I won’t even *begin* to expound on their racist agenda: they actually attributed a local riot to free chicken sandwiches) about how Black men were more likely to marry outside of their race and Black women were less likely to marry at all, complete with the big, scary stats. I’ve just grown numb to it all.

        For a brief second of weakness not too long ago, I actually started to believe maybe I was lonely, doomed and needed to get married.

        Then I remembered 1)the realities of what my married (and newly divorced) friends are going through 2)my personal freedom to travel, spend $$$, and generally act a fool without hurting anyone but myself and 3) no one, whether they are Black, White, Yellow, or Brown, is guaranteed the love of their life -that is a personal journey undefined by stats, ethnicity or odds.

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  32. Great post, Champ, and thank you!

    I could start my own amen corner on being too supportive when I should have fell back. I ain’t even thinking about Slim Thug. My concern is sistah’s who are doing too much, have a poor unhealthy view or what being a supportive woman is and thinking dumb ish’ like this right chea’ validates them doing everything. Oh, and if Thug’s girlfriend was the one that he had released pics in the act of giving him fell***o in the bushes, then he really doesn’t give a sh!t about her.

    Untrue Stereotypes of black women:
    -Any long hair is weave or a wig.
    -We are not professional
    -We can’t have friendships in the workplace with non-black folks
    -We don’t speak other languages
    -We are either wonton seductress or mammy
    -We are not green or up on healthy eating
    -We can’t cook
    -We all from the ghetto and never traveled further than our our house to our job
    -We not up on other cultures

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    • “-Any long hair is weave or a wig.”

      Yep! They have always assumed my hair is fake, & what’s even more strange is that you can go to work with short hair one day then long weave the next and they won’t notice a thing. They don’t know if the weave is real or fake if they notice it at all. Funny…

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    • @legitimate_soul,

      I agree, my dear. All of those stereotypes are untrue. I have met at least one black woman that debunks everyone of them.

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    • @legitimate_soul

      “-We are not green or up on healthy eating”

      Word. I think this is a Black folks stereotype. I may be an exception but my family has always been healthy to a certain extent. Growing up people thought that it was weird that we ate turkey burgers. I use to be a macrobiotic and my mom had the whole house on some macrobiotic-type diet. I recycle and I see other Black folks recycling when I take my things there. This is in a city with no recycling program so people are going out of their way to be green.

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      • for some reason it REALLY bothers me that i know so many black folk that dont recycle. even my roommate and her ex (who is currently like our 3rd roommate, *smh*) who completely disregard my BLUE recycle bags for bottles/cans. i stay having to pull stuff out the regular trash because of this. i so much as carry around my empty water bottles (at work or out and about) until i can find a recycle bin to put them in.

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        • @Gem of the Ocean

          “. i so much as carry around my empty water bottles (at work or out and about) until i can find a recycle bin to put them in.”

          That’s funny I do the same thing.

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      • Great point – I hate that the notions of being healthy & giving a sh*t about the planet is seen by some as White folks’ territory. COME ON folks, it’s only 2010!

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    • 20? only if it had a -15 windchill as well. i didnt stop her after 10 seconds because i was being polite, and since i wasnt really experienced then, i actually though that i was the one who didn’t realize what “good” head was.

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  34. Typical untrue Black women stereotypes

    1) All Black women have “attitude”

    2) Black women don’t know how to let a man be a man
    I still don’t get when men say this. How can a woman stop you from being what you are? Maybe they want to be 2010 version of Ward Cleaver? Idk.

    3) Black women only want men with money or status
    I don’t get this either. If I had a dollar for every dude I’ve met with no job or money yet still bags mad women I’d be rich. I’d even be more rich if you counted that same dude and the number of children he has by different women.

    4) Black women have a sense of entiltlement (not the I am somebody, equal respect entitlement)
    All Black women aren’t like this and I’ve seen women of other races with this same mentality. It’s called “princess syndrome” and Black women aren’t the purveyor of it.

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    • i don’t know if i have attitude so much as i’m “fiesty”.. i’ve also been called “fresh”.. but i blame my quick wit.. and the fact that i’m a tomboy (they’re related.. trust me..)
      and i always know that a certain man is special if he can “calm me down” without exerting his “i am man, hear me roar” brand of overcompensation..
      i’ve only met one such person…

      2. i’m actually getting ready to write a post about this.. and i’m using my ex as subject matter.. is that wrong of me? *covers mouth and giggles*
      but i think it’s a factor off too many men not knowing how to be a man without trying to lord it over said woman.. then woman has to bounce back with her “attitude” and do the whole “you not the boss o me!!” speech..
      it’s a very weird push/pull that not a lot of people have learned how to master..
      and if i ever meet another man that can calm me down.. i’d ask him to marry me.. no lie…

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      • and i always know that a certain man is special if he can “calm me down” without exerting his “i am man, hear me roar” brand of overcompensation..

        In calming a feisty woman down, I usually tell her to breathe slowly and deeply… then I start speaking in a very calm, quiet tone…it kinda forces her to calm down so that she can actually hear me…

        If that doesn’t work, a couple of Ambien put in her Kool-Aid works wonders…lol

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        • @DG.. you know doggone well what i meant.. you fool!!
          the dude that was able to do it would be like “my tone of voice hasn’t changed.. why are you getting loud?” (my tone of speech is “elevated”) and shut me the h*ll up… it was so sexy for him to be able to take me from a lion to a kitty in one sentence..
          it said something about his masculinity and made me wanna jump him.. which i usually did..
          *sigh*…
          but now that i know it can be done.. that’s a requisite for all future dudes..
          without the chemicals..
          i can’t stand you!!
          yes i can…

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      • @Nick,

        lol i too have been called feisty, fresh, and even sassy. and thus have rightly earned the nicknames “mouf” and “might mouf”

        yay me! i win at being me.

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    • @Humble One
      1) All Black women have “attitude
      I’m sorry but we do have attitude…but it’s a GREAT thing. At least you know you’re Black woman won’t fall for anything and can stand on her two feet.

      4) Black women have a sense of entiltlement (not the I am somebody, equal respect entitlement)
      NO ONE has a sense of entitlement more than a white woman. I know this for a fact. I live in 2520ville.

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      • @SmartFoxGirl

        “I’m sorry but we do have attitude…but it’s a GREAT thing. At least you know you’re Black woman won’t fall for anything and can stand on her two feet.”

        I don’t consider that attitude. Maybe because I’m use to it. When I said attitude I was thinking about being unecessarily difficult or always mad.

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    • 2) Black women don’t know how to let a man be a man
      I still don’t get when men say this. How can a woman stop you from being what you are?

      I want to e-kiss you right now for saying this. I had an ex who told me I was castrating him and not letting him be a man. This boggled me. In fact I felt castrated because he would only say that when I spoke my mind. It’s like I was suppose to just sit there and say yes massa to everything he said or else I wasn’t letting him be a man….

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      • It’s like I was suppose to just sit there and say yes massa to everything he said or else I wasn’t letting him be a man….

        That’s exactly what they mean when they say not letting them be a man…just say yes is what they want..

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  35. ,” but every. single. one. of the black woman i know are extremely willing to offer more support than one of aretha’s bras”

    Dead……Back to finishing the post!

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    • I read comments like these by an idiot who calles himself slim thug and I weep for his daughter and pray dear Lord please castrate the mo’f*cker before he has any kids and if he already has, take care of them coz they will end up as some messed little brats thanks o ‘dads’ idiocity.

      That being said I thing this war nowadays perpetuated by idiots whos priority is buying rimms rather than making anysubstantial investments(they barely passed highschool if they did that is) needs to stop,we vsb’s vss’s know better and need to educate the younginns that are listening to this crap and probably believing it(sad, I know) that thats bull and sh*t.

      However said being pregnant is great, go drown yourself and die!

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      • I weep for his daughter and pray dear Lord please castrate the mo’f*cker before he has any kids and if he already has

        lol, damn. i dont think we need to turn the dude into a eunch

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  36. The thing that this reminds me of is that I feel black men and women have had this civil war with each other for as long as I can remember. Black men ain’t sh*t. Black women are crazy/too picky. Rinse, repeat.

    But the funny thing is, it’s actually bullsh*t. This war between the sexes is a stereotype in itself and there are plenty of people who are happy to perpetuate it. Don’t get me wrong, there exist sh*tty men who are horrible fathers and don’t take care of their illegitimate children. There also exist sh*tty women who are golddiggers and who love nothing more than to rag on black men. This is what you would call “life.” But why do they get so much attention?!? There are plenty of great black men and women out there and EVERYONE knows it, but the eff ups get all the publicity and apparently establish the definition of what black men and women are to each other.

    It’s like when everyone was on this “hip-hop is dead” movement. Yeah, the hip-hop on the radio today sounds like a rat turd covered in bird hair, but there are plenty of great hip-hop artists making music out there. Plenty. It’s just that the ones with less quality are getting most of the publicity (I’m looking at you Gucci Mane).

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    • This war between the sexes is a stereotype in itself and there are plenty of people who are happy to perpetuate it. Don’t get me wrong, there exist sh*tty men who are horrible fathers and don’t take care of their illegitimate children. There also exist sh*tty women who are golddiggers and who love nothing more than to rag on black men. This is what you would call “life.”

      ^^^ church!

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    • “But the funny thing is, it’s actually bullsh*t. This war between the sexes is a stereotype in itself and there are plenty of people who are happy to perpetuate it.”

      I totally agree with that, i’m sure that it can be proven (if anyone gave a eff to do a study) that the sterotypical B.S. placed on BW and sometimes BM heads is typically untrue. I was so annoyed at the co-signers that were di*k riding Slim Thug on Twitter. It was disgusting. Maybe one day basic bi*hes and dumb ninjas will have each others backs but until then…hmp

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    • Thank you. This was all part of the man’s plan and it is working like a charm.

      Teach them not to love themselves or each other and they will never feel complete.

      New time, new era…cut the shullbit.

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    • It’s like when everyone was on this “hip-hop is dead” movement. Yeah, the hip-hop on the radio today sounds like a rat turd covered in bird hair, but there are plenty of great hip-hop artists making music out there.

      good point, and great simile.

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  37. Who is Slim Thug? No really, he doesn’t sound remotely familiar, and I listen to the radio! I read the the first 25% of that “blog” but then my eyes glazed over and rolled back so I don’t remember anything after that. But I get the picture, Black women suck blah blah, I gots me a Mullata blah blah. Honestly, I’m numb to the attacks on Black women. They’re have been so many at this point… But thank you Champ for shooting down some of the more pervasive stereotypes. I guess I would add the equally pervasive:
    - Black women all have attitude problems

    - Black women are all loud and obnoxious

    - Black women are either messy hoodrats or saditty career women

    - All Black women do is complain about Black men (believe it or not some of us are happy, well adjusted and not really bothered. Not everyone is keeping a Mad Black diary)

    There are more but it’s getting late here on the West Coast. Tata for now!

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  38. “(educated) black women hate giving head…and are terrible at it when they do”

    Are there really ninjas who believe this? Seems like this was all the rage on Spelman’s campus in the late 90′s. (I was a part of the movement)

    One stereotype that I’ve encountered is that of the darker sisters being jealous of the light skinned sisters. I waited for the Good and Bad Hair confrontation to happen on campus one day, but it never did because people had way more to stress over (like school). What I hate most is to hear a brovah say something to this effect to which my response is, “I’m not hating on her because she’s beige, I’m hating because she’s stupid and you can do way better.”

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    • “(educated) black women hate giving head…and are terrible at it when they do”
      Are there really ninjas who believe this? Seems like this was all the rage on Spelman’s campus in the late 90’s. (I was a part of the movement)

      What I’m confused on what the movement was? Was it a bunch of Spelman sistas trying to dispel this myth or were they confirming that this is true?

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    • @Mrs. Dr. Evil, Are there really ninjas who believe this? Seems like this was all the rage on Spelman’s campus in the late 90’s. (I was a part of the movement)

      you ain’t neva lied. i was a supporter of that movement in the late 90s.

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  39. Some men are full of excuses and, after “The Man is against me,” this “Black women aren’t supportive” is the biggest one. I mostly hear this from black men that aren’t doing sh!t to better themselves. I can’t support mediocrity, I’m sorry. As long as you’re working hard to further yourself, I got you. All I ask for is a good plan. It could even be an “in the mean time” plan while you work toward a longterm goal.

    I don’t love thugs. I see them daily. Nope, not doing it for me. I know too many young men that have lost lives and limbs in these streets. Why would I want that in my life? Especially over some dumb stuff like colors? No thanks. The whole bad boy mystique is lost on me. I guess I’ve lived in the hood too long. I’m known in my crew as the one that likes “square boys” i.e. VSBs, lol. And, that’s fine by me.

    As for the VSS & her oral prowess . . . I know a lot of ladies that shatter this myth on the regular. (side note: who remembers that Akademiks “Read Books. Get Brain.” advertisement? Lol)

    And lastly, this “don’t take care of themselves” . . . I don’t even want to speak on it b/c I see that as PC code for “fat black women” and I’m not down with that. I work for a popular plus size retailer and I see larger women of all shapes, sizes, and colors that pay good money to look their best. Plus size isn’t everybody’s preference or ideal body weight but it’s not always a sign of neglect . . . Ugh, I’ve said too much already, LMAO.

    Good post, Champ!

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  40. I would first like to ask if anyone sleeps anymore?

    Then I’d like to object strongly, with a HUGE thuggy gavel that only silly women like thugs. I love thugs. I might’ve written a whole blog about it, yes, yes, I did. But am I going to marry a thug? No, then again, I have doubtful feelings on marriage regardless.

    Next I’d like to address the fact that I could barely read the blog because Slim Thug was apparently THEE child left behind. I needed some damn subtitles or something. So once I got through it I thought, “okay, I’ll write a blog (which I did) and then I’ll force myself to forget about all my inappropriate thoughts I had while watching him on the Hip Hop Honors last night, therefore realizing that I’d never even date a dude like Slim Thug who has the morality clause of one of those chicks on the late night singles ads anyway, so who gives a left frog nut.” Then I’d kill myself for writing such an incredible run-on.

    Congrats to Slim Thug for his quick little moment in the sun. When was his last record?

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  41. I read this and cried a little. Thanks

    Side note: Doesn’t Slim Thug have 2 children by his cousin? Made me feel better, don’t know bout the rest of y’all.

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    • “Doesn’t Slim Thug have 2 children by his cousin? ”

      That’s what they say…(they being the media/blog sites) & he’s not denying it so I assume it’s true and that there is disgusting. o_O

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    • Doesn’t Slim Thug have 2 children by his cousin .

      Say what?!?!?! What kind of hillbilly Uncle Dad type sh*t is this?! Well that explains so much. I wouldn’t be surprised if he himself is the product of an incestuous relationship.

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      • @V Renee

        I wouldn’t be surprised if he himself is the product of an incestuous relationship.

        That would explain his abnormally large head and slowful look about him

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  42. Great Post Champ- Thanks for serving truth & justice & whatnot-I truly love it when you do that, it makes my e-heart go pitter-patter, no panderin *sigh

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  43. Pardon my ignorance but what is a Katt Stacks? Did we cover that on here and I just whiffed on it?

    Vibe actually picked Slim Thug to do a blog? Was that Chinese ninja from 2 Live Crew not around? My guess Slim needed to get his name out again.

    I can’t think of any more stereotypes and I didn’t read Slim’s blog but I have to refute what I guess his main point was: Sisters aren’t supportive and white women are. I’m going to step out on a ledge here and agree with Champ’s saying that Slim doesn’t know normal people. The normal people that Slim doesn’t know would include normal white women. I work in an office filled with 2520 women who have the same relationship problems as all of the black women I know, maybe worse. (They tend to make their husbanbs sound a little soft.) So sorry Slim you need more people. Truth be told, the black women you deal with just aren’t impressed with you anymore because that buzz that you had is over. So normal, supportive, loving, and qualified sisters just see you as a tall ninja with a microphone.

    Just how I see it.

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    • @Wu Young, Vibe actually picked Slim Thug to do a blog? Was that Chinese ninja from 2 Live Crew not around? My guess Slim needed to get his name out again.

      i hope they continue this series though and ask, say, Trick Daddy what he thinks about the way NATO workers are getting sniped in Afghanistan.

      cuz that’s who i’d call.

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        • At least Trick luvs da kidz. Slim just loves himself, dirty skeezes, and apparently his cousin(s). I would pick up a journal featuring the honorary Dr. Daddy (Ph.D)

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  44. I could write about six thousand hundred words about this topic. I only have a minute though. I gotta go, l gotta go, l gotta go…

    I will say that I think it definitely has to do with your circle and what types you are around. Don’t be fooled into thinking unsupportive VSS’s don’t exist. They do.

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      • Nope. I’m rarely late. That stereotype has no place in my realm. I’m always at least 10 min. early. Does Paypal accept monopoly money?

        would it offend anyone if I were to say that everything that Champ listed applies to the majority (50.1%) of Black women? That has definitely been my experience.

        No Bullsh*t

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          • Me too. My co-workers, majority are white of course, thinks I’m a rare breed cuz I’m a black person who’s punctual…

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        • This sentence –>would it offend anyone if I were to say that everything that Champ listed applies to the majority (50.1%) of Black women? does not make sense without this one –>That has definitely been my experience.

          In other words, 50.1% of the Black women YOU KNOW fit those stereotypes… Doesn’t say much about the Black Women demographics in general… just says a whole lot about where you roam and who you frequent…

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          • Isn’t my perception my reality? Of course I don’t know all black women. I’ve had my share to the 3rd power though. Almost all of them were an 8 or better on my scale (intellect+personality+looks).

            I find that most only support things that I do that would somehow benefit them. Everything else is iffy.

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          • Almost all of them were an 8 or better on my scale (intellect+personality+looks).

            which confirms what I said earlier…

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          • I roam the GLOBE

            Who said you weren’t? I am just pointing out that your views while valid to you are only just that your views…

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  45. My thing is if Slim Thugga walks around advertising how much money he has blah, blah, blah what does he expect to attract? How many ivy league chicks are in his videos? I mean that are fully dressed and hold themselves accountable? He going to have to do better!

    My issue is there is very little healthy conversations on relationships. The conversations seem to go them vs. us and finger pointing. People allow their personal insercurties come out when dealing with the subject and that’s where the stereotyping begins!

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    • @Natasha, How many ivy league chicks are in his videos?

      doesn’t matter, he snagged him one anyway. Though I’m not completely sure if he meant Columbia University in NY or like, Columbia community college down by the riverside campus.

      the article states that she went to columbia university, but i’m almost sure that the writer added that in.

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      • “doesn’t matter, he snagged him one anyway. Though I’m not completely sure if he meant Columbia University in NY or like, Columbia community college down by the riverside campus.”

        this reminds me of that show “community” on nbc. the main character (a former lawyer) has to attend community college to “redo” his degree. someone asks him “wait…i thought you had a law degree from columbia” and he replies “yeah…now i have to get one from america”

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        • @natasha “How many ivy league chicks are in his videos?”

          You’d be surprised. Isn’t it like the stripper giving a lap dance while simultaneously telling you she’s studying chemical engineering at Smartbutstrip University?

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  46. sh*t, there are probably some sistas reading this right now nipping at the bud, waiting for any brotha to do something so she can throw some random encouragement his way.

    confused about “nipping at the bud.” i thought the phrase was “chomping at the bit.” unless champion is using it as some non-pg-16 euphemism, in which case…hmmmm.

    but yes, i do feel like all of the women i have dated (exclusively sistas) have been completely supportive (even in my less-than-ballin moments), and without adding to the superhead/hypersexualization-of-black women train, HUGE cosign on sistas’ prodigious ability to play the meat flute.

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    • @brotherspanky, as a cat whose done some real country time in his life, nipping at the bud and chomping at the bit are one and the same.

      kind of like, slapping at the hooker.

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    • confused about “nipping at the bud.” i thought the phrase was “chomping at the bit.” unless champion is using it as some non-pg-16 euphemism, in which case…hmmmm.

      lol, thanks. i confused my idioms and sh*t

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  47. Natasha–That’s exactly it! Where are scapegoated in 2010 for real!

    We’re about to be the cause of the Gulf oil spill. Mark my words.

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  48. I read that foolishness that Slim Thug was talking about…he is just as ignorant as he wants to be…..he has no validity to me, he will not be around in ten years…and he will be with a black woman most likely…cuz Becky won’t have his azz…….

    I agree with you Champ. I think Black women can be a little too supportive and sometimes to a fault.

    Black women are more discreet about giving head. We are indeed not doing it all willy nilly…..and that is the big difference.

    You didn’t directly address the issue of black women not taking care of their bodies…you kinda touched on it and around it…but, according to society black women don’t have the ideal body type..so, anything that isn’t boney..is going to read “not taking care of my body”…so it is what it is….

    As far as “black women love thugs”…what we really like is “swagga”…its not about thugging out..that is what society doesn’t understand.

    Another great one Champ!

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    • Black women are more discreet about giving head. We are indeed not doing it all willy nilly…..and that is the big difference.

      CO-SIGN

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  49. Great post, Champ!!
    I haven’t read a Thug Named Slim’s blog post. Frankly, I don’t care what men like him say because I know there are more men like Champ in the world, and those men (who love/support black women) are the men I care about.

    It is interesting that so many people are upset with his interview/blog instead of being upset at the magazine who posted that nonsense. Vibe? I haven’t read Vibe in at least 10 years. And if it wasn’t for Twitter, I wouldn’t have heard anything about the blog.

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    • Vibe? I haven’t read Vibe in at least 10 years. And if it wasn’t for Twitter, I wouldn’t have heard anything about the blog.

      I thought the same thing..Vibe is still out there? Haven’t read it since the 90′s.

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  50. The real problem is that darn Twitter…I stopped subscribing to Vibe moons ago & who gives a rats a** about their website? If not for Twitter 98% of us would not even know about this foolishness to comment on it.

    BTW
    “sh*t, as i’m typing this in the coffee shop down the street from my apartment, i’m watching a (white) man eat two cups of cream cheese…by itself. he’s scooping that sh*t up with his thumb and eating it like it’s f*cking peanut butter. it’s easily the most disgusting thing i’ve seen since last sunday”

    WTH happened last Sunday?

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  51. “i will concede that a rapper, athlete, or entertainer might encounter a different type of woman than the “average” black man.”

    EXACTLY!

    “if anything, you can make the case that (generally speaking) black women are TOO supporting, too willing to sacrifice themselves and their well-being for the betterment of black men and the black community, but thats a topic for another day.”

    This is exactly the point I was making in my latest article on my blog. Black Women (BW) are VERY supportive!!! Thank u Champ for this well needed article. I love you for this!!! :D

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  52. “If anything, you can make the case that (generally speaking) black women are TOO supporting, too willing to sacrifice themselves and their well-being for the betterment of black men and the black community, but thats a topic for another day.”

    Can I rsvp a spot at the top of the comment section on this day? I can’t keep up w/ the late night creeps for posting’s sake anymore…

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  53. I’ve said it before, and I will continue to say it…I have NO issues serving my man, so long as he continues to prove that he is worth serving.

    The man should do the majority of the work. Period. My job as a woman is to support him and ensure that he has the spiritual, emotional, intellectual, and physical nourishment that he needs. I will happily provide all of those to him, so long as he doesn’t forget that he is a man, and should act accordingly.

    Maybe the issue (in Slim Thug’s case and many other men who feel the need to blame black women) does not reside with us, yet with the fact that they fail to be men that a woman would be proud to have as their own. Maybe the black women they have encountered did not accept their mediocre fame or rims as great incentives, er, characteristics, of a man. Maybe, just maybe, the black women they have encountered required them to be men.

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  54. willing to offer more support than one of aretha’s bras I heart this comment (looks at pic).

    Slim Thug who? He must have an album dropping because he is too irrelevant to come up in normal conversation.

    I am so tired of black women having to defend themself because some azzhole with insecurities wants to justify why he dates ‘others’. If you don’t want to date me because you don’t like me…fine. If you don’t want to date me because you have a preference…fine. Don’t say what a black women has to do to get you if you don’t want a black women anyway.

    You don’t have to put down a black women in order to defend why you date Becky. I could give to shyts as to why you date her…you not climbing into my bed at night and your mere existence does not impact my daily. There are tons of men of all nationalities who love black women.

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  55. This post is right on cue w/ a discussion Ed Lover and his goons were having on Power 105.1 this morning. Men were calling in and explaining the differences (and benefits) to being in relationships with black, hispanic, or white women.

    I found it shocking that hispanic women were praised for the homekeeping and chexual skills…of course white women were docile and much more relaxed…and I only heard one positive comments about black women: that we can relate to black men.

    I found it very disheartening to hear a black man say hispanic women are better in bed AND if you have kids with them…you’re children will have good hair….REALLY?

    I support black men 100%…but really….with comments like this who would want to support the person saying things of that nature?

    While I suppose the nature of that convo was supposed to be funny…it honestly didn’t feel too good hearing that or reading Slim Thug’s blog. The black women bashing is out of control.

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    • wow. this just made me sad.

      maybe it’s because i only interact with positive black men who LOVE black women, but i would have never thought this. especially after attending a mexican-and i mean VERY mexican- birthday party the other day, in which the birthday girl (my friend) wore a wedding gown. a wedding gown! and like 5 of her friends had shanks tucked under their way too ruffly for a cabaret-dresses, and were seriously giving us tips on how to fight and preserve your sexy. lol. but overall they were basically talking about how much they hate their kids, men, and life. lmbo. i was very culture shocked. but the birthday girl is my homie, soooo yeah. twas interesting.

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      • @Muze

        Please refrain from such descriptive tales…my imagination is a FOOL!!!! LMAO @ the wedding dress and shanks….I can’t!!

        But yes, it is very sad. Especially since I posted the link on Facebook and “regular, everyday” dudes are co-signing it.

        One said we make it hard for them, so can we blame them and how we act funny. I don’t know guy..maybe it’s because you’re like 30 years old, unemployed, and spend whatever money you get trying to be a rapper.

        But I digress.

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        • @LaBakir

          “One said we make it hard for them, so can we blame them and how we act funny. I don’t know guy..maybe it’s because you’re like 30 years old, unemployed, and spend whatever money you get trying to be a rapper.”

          This is one of the biggest issues I have with Black men that say this. I’m willing to bet that these dudes have had mad chics that had their back and they ished on them. I know what it’s like to be with a nonsupportive woman. These dudes don’t. They want a woman that will entertain their BS.

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          • @Humble_One

            They want a woman that will entertain their BS.

            That’s exactly what I said to him. He wants his foolishness to be tolerated and his ego to be stroked…all w/o putting in the necessary work on his part.

            And as SouthernCharm said in his post below…he’s didn’t even count the women who were supportive of him that he wasn’t in a relationship with. I know about that 1st hand…smh.

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    • @LaBakir It’s a sad era when we can’t even count on most BM to have our back. It really makes me question my loyalty to a group of men that tend to pre-judge us and often prefer other races. I am so through listening to the B.S. It’s time for me to start ignoring the bashing before I become the person that THEY think I am. AN ANGRY BLACK WOMAN. *sigh*

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      • @TheOpinionated1

        It’s a sad era when we can’t even count on most BM to have our back. It really makes me question my loyalty to a group of men that tend to pre-judge us and often prefer other races.

        That’s exactly how I feel in a nutshell. Nice pic BTW…Gravatar blows,lol

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    • @ LaBakir
      I’m so sick of it and it really does hurt. That Black man doesn’t even realize how much hispanic, indian, asian women fear him. They are NOT willing to date his Black *ss. They won’t even look black men in the eye. He may get some, but not most…can’t say the same for a Black woman..and since when is EASIER better? Don’t you want a woman who challenges you? Ugh

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      • @SmartFoxGirl

        I heart your comments below! *thumbs ups*

        But yes, it does hurt. And while I know not every black man thinks this way, there’s a some strong co-signage (ha @ my new word) out there. I posted the link of FB and the dudes brave enough to comment actually signed on the dotted line.

        It’s like…what more can I do to be accepted by you (the black man)…I’m baffeled.

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        • I think that there are many man-children out there parading as MEN. Unfortunately, waaaay to many sistas can’t tell the difference. I would even suggest that waay too many sistas are attracted to the gangsta man-child. This isn’t surprising to me, given that most black children grow up in single parent house holds and its been that way for a long time. Many sistas don’t even know what a “Real Black Man” is they just think they do.

          “It’s like…what more can I do to be accepted by you (the black man)…I’m baffeled.”

          @ LABakir – stop confusing boys with men, and start listening. Not to boys that just say what you want to hear, but men that may potentially challenge you and your ideas.

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          • @IETCHERI

            Whoa, whoa…pipe down buddy. I’m not confusing ‘boys’ w/ ‘men’ and what is it that I should start listening to?

            The comment of mine that you quoted wasn’t meant to be taken literally…it was in the response to all the criticism black women seem to garner. D@mned if you do, d@mned if you don’t.

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          • I think that there are many man-children out there parading as MEN. Unfortunately, waaaay to many sistas can’t tell the difference.

            Yes! I need my fellow black Women to be a little bit more discerning on whom complaints they take to heart… Someone who is calling a public show on the radio in the morning??? Yeah, no I don’t care about your viewpoint, homie.

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    • #urbanradiofail.

      What kind of discussion is that to have in the morning? While you should be getting ready for the workday?

      #nprforthewin.

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  56. Response to slim thug’s vibe interview

    Slim is experiencing backlash after making disparaging comments about Black women but women aren’t the only ones up in arms. Pop the hood for details

    Marc Lamont Hill, the Columbia professor who was previously insulted by Bill O’Reilly takes the rapper to task in a recent open letter. His comments are posted below:

    Slim,

    A few days ago, you made comments in Vibe magazine that have caused a great deal of controversy. While I appreciate your willingness to offer your opinion in public, you made several statements that were not only unfair and untrue, but deeply damaging to our community. Normally, I would reach out to you privately, but since your comments were made in a very public place, I feel compelled to respond in the same manner.

    As an artist who is respected by millions of fans, particularly young ones, I found your comments to be hurtful and irresponsible. For good or for bad, our children follow the lead of you and other artists for everything from fashion and slang to self-esteem, body image and relationships. Imagine how a young black girl feels to hear from you, her role model, that her “standards are too high” and that she should “bow down” and “settle for less.” Consider the pain that our beautiful brown skinned babies feel when Yung Berg says he doesn’t date “dark butts.” Think about the self-esteem of our community when Nelly refers to our mothers, sisters, and daughters as “Tip Drills.”

    As celebrities, your public comments are not just your own. Instead they influence the choices, beliefs, and lives of an entire generation of young people who look to you for direction.

    Of course, you have every right to say things that you think are true. The problem, however, is that there was very little truth in your comments.

    In your interview, you talk about how much better white women treat their partners than black women. If what you’re saying is true, why do Whites have the highest divorce rate of any group? Do white men get tired of being treated like kings? In reality, it seems that you are buying into (and selling) a stale but dangerous ideal that constructs White women as ultra-feminine, loving, queens, and Black women as angry, selfish, and untrustworthy hoes.

    Even more disturbing was your comment that “Black women gotta start being down for their man more.” Since slavery, Black women have had to withstand rape, torture, and humiliation (from both white and black men) in order to sustain their families. Now, in 2010, 1 in 3 Black men between 20 and 29 years old are incarcerated or otherwise under criminal supervision. Every day, Black women are raising children without men in the house, working multiple jobs (for less pay!), and supporting brothers as they finish their prison bids.

    With Black male unemployment as high as 50 percent in some cities, sisters are often holding down households without child support or other financial assistance. Black female incarceration rates are skyrocketing, partly because Black women are “riding” for their men, hiding guns and drugs, operating as mules, and refusing to snitch to authorities. In addition, Black women are the group most likely to be victims of domestic violence and the least likely to be married. Still, in spite of all this bad news, Black women are less likely to date outside their race than Black men.

    How much more “down” do you want Black women to be?

    I agree with you that both brothers and sisters have work to do. Over the last year, we’ve seen countless TV shows, movies, and bestselling books telling Black women how broken they are, how ugly they are, why they don’t have a man, and how they need to behave. Instead of adding to this pile of pain and ignorance, I would encourage you to turn the mirror on yourself. How does the image of the pimp/player/baller/dopeboy promoted in your music help to create the “gold diggers” that you badmouth in your interviews? How might your own admitted failures at monogamy undermine the type of loyalty that you find missing in Black women? Criticizing the vulnerable is easy. Working on yourself is the difficult part.

    I hope you don’t take this letter as an attack, but as an act of concern and love from one brother to another. Through your fame and wealth, you have tremendous power. You can use it to hurt or to heal, to injure or to inspire.

    The world is watching. What will you do?

    Your Brother,

    Marc Lamont Hill

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      • @TheOpinionated1

        I think so as well. I’m still confused as to why Slim Thug is writing “articles” anyways. That was the most incoherent piece of crap I’ve read in a while.

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      • @ComicBookGuy

        He definitely did a good job with writing his response. I feel like I recovered some of the brain cells I lost while reading Slim Thug’s piece

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      • @ComicBookGuy, you must be joking right? why does he deserve kudos for addressing retardedness? Slim Thug is not anybody of consequence. most of us forgot he existed. twitter is the reason anybody cares about this.

        that was a huge waste of time and energy. kind of like the NAACP burying the n-word with full funeral honors when you KNOW somebody at the funeral was like, “damn n*gga, why ain’t it more n*ggas here? why n*ggas always late?”

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        • @Panama Jackson

          kind of like the NAACP burying the n-word with full funeral honors when you KNOW somebody at the funeral was like, “damn n*gga, why ain’t it more n*ggas here? why n*ggas always late?”

          LMAO!!!!

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        • “that was a huge waste of time and energy. kind of like the NAACP burying the n-word with full funeral honors when you KNOW somebody at the funeral was like, “damn n*gga, why ain’t it more n*ggas here? why n*ggas always late?”

          i heartchu so much for this comment. LMBO!

          i said the same thing… like word? how can you bury a word that people are probably using 3635 times at the ‘funeral’?

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        • @Panama Jackson,

          I feel you on what you are saying, Panama. I like the letter because of a post you guys did awhile back about things that a black woman should look for in a black man. One of those things was to have a man (father, friend, uncle, mentor) that puts him in check when he gets out of line. I felt like this letter was a nice way of saying to Slim Thug “Hey, ni@@a, chill out”. Sure, the letter was long and people have ignored what Slim Thug even said. Hell, I didn’t even read it, but it was good to see one black man tell another black man he was out of line because a lot of us don’t that nowadays to even our closest friends.

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        • why does he deserve kudos for addressing retardedness?

          Like we say where I’m from: “Merci la bas!!”

          I mean, really??? A Columbia professor replying to slow-looking Slim Thug? Please. It’s just too much wind around what a non-entity has to say… What we should address is why anybody would have a Slim Thug as a role model, now that’s an issue I would like to see addressed…

          *rolleyes*

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    • he and slim were goin back and forth BLASTIN up my twitter timeline..
      well, only from his side.. because honestly, who follows slim thug?
      but thank you for posting..
      it’s attitudes like slim’s that make me sad.. then angry.. i don’t have the patience to school everybody about how there are still beautiful women out there..
      and i can’t date alla ya’ll to show you it’s true… not only that but my VSS’s won’t do it either…
      their minds are so far gone, they’ve passed “Go” 5 times…

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    • while i can appreciate the sentiment behind the letter in supporting black women, i cant appreciate/co-sign/applaud its existence. why?

      hill said “As an artist who is respected by millions of fans“. which makes the whole REASON for the letter null and void and more of a soliloquy than a letter. waste of breath to direct such intelligent, articulate comments at SLIM THUG, an irrelevant @$$ incomprehensible misogynist ninja who just became pseudo-relevant via all the ppl who care enough to be offended by him (including VSSs! lawd). the mere fact that this whole “why we should love our black women” argument has to be told to an idiot makes the person doing the argument seem like a bigger idiot since A fool hath no delight in understanding(Proverbs 18:2).

      *smh*

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      • Exactly!! Why would anyone waste so much time making this ninja relevant, and giving validation to his ignorant ideas on black women?
        We give too much soapbox time to the wrong things.
        Cue Kanye…
        “You worry ’bout the wrong things, the wrong things. You worry ’bout the wrong things, the wrong things.”

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  57. I looked at a youtube video of Slim Thug called, “My di*k wont suck itself.”

    *PAUSE*

    The nerve of this man….SMH…& then he mentioned in the video that he made his girlfriend pay half on her plane ticket to go to NYC with him. WTF? That told me right there that the ninja is broke or either just a straight up a**hole!

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      • @Panama Maybe so, but he’s still an idiot. He needs to understand that when you’re in the spotlight people listen to what you have to say, so you can’t talk out the side of your a** and think no one will have an opinion about it. Why piss off a huge part of your fanbase??? I know why….cuz he just don’t give a fu*k!

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        • @TheOpinionated1, he’s not in the spotlight.

          and let’s be honest, slim thug did NOT piss off a huge part of his fanbase. if anything, his fanbase agrees with him and doesn’t understand why folks take issue. i liked some of his songs, but i’m not a fan and never have been.

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          • @Panama

            Well (as I stand on my soapbox) lol…being that I’m from AR and he’s from TX we hugely support TX music simply because they are a State away. Our radios play their music more so than east coast/west coast artists and they tend to have many shows here. Arkansans….we know who he is…alot of us has seen him perform, and alot of us WERE fans of his music. Most women I know down here is down with Slim, Paul Wall, Mike Jones, Tum Tum, & etc…So Panama…I think he DID piss off alot of his (at least southern) fanbase. That is all…:)

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          • @TheOpinionated1

            not tryna be an ass (well maybe just a little lol) but you BLINDLY support s.t. because he’s from tx and tx is close to ak? this is not a good argument for s.t.’s so-called relevance lol.

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          • @Gem
            No I never said that I (or AR peeps) support him because he’s from TX. I said that the fact that TX is right near us causes US to 1) Hear the music more often & 2)To be more likely to know who he is. When I say that we support their music because we are a State away, I’m not saying that everyone does. The closer you stay near an artist the more likely it is that you will know about them and their music. I don’t think Slim is super relevant, I’m just stating that WE know who he is therefore there are people that his comment will affect. and the truth of the matter is, he IS in the spotlight to some degree, I mean, he has almost 100,000 twitter followers, has had a song with Beyonce, and is considered a celebrity.

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          • ok. perhaps i misunderstood “being that I’m from AR and he’s from TX we hugely support TX music simply because they are a State away“?

            my bad.

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          • @Gem

            You’re right, you did misunderstand me but I’m not gonna sit here all day and try to explain myself because it’s not that serious. I’ll just end with the point that relevance is in the eye of the beholder & if you were to read my post on my blog I made it clear that I feel that Slim is barely relevant so what is the issue with me saying that Arkansas supports TX musicbecause we are a state away? I never said anyone BLINDLY supports TX, of course you would listen to it and decide you like it before supporting it. A large portion of us however does listen to & support TX artists. Jeez

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        • Why piss off a huge part of your fanbase???

          Who is this fanbase of his?? I live in Houston, and I am black and I don’t know not a one person who is a “fan” of Slim Thug… :)

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  58. This moron isn’t “slim” or a “thug” or relavent, he actually looks like the tweety bird monster from the Jeckyl and Hyde episode of Bugs Bunny/Looney Tunes, LLS!!!!
    He is a phcukin poser, and we attract what we are :-)

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  59. It’s downright baffling that the SAME “black, proud, women” who are up in arms over this will go out in droves to buy the latest Jay-Z, TI (a favorite among black women), Fabolous, Plies, Gucci Mane, etc records.

    And these dudes REGULARLY talk about how women are little more than disposable semen receptacles. And believe it or not, women (particularly black women) are the biggest consumers of their music.

    Imagine that.

    So Slim Thug comes along and basically repeats the age old “bitches aint shit” mantra except this time it’s on a blog and not over a beat, and *now* we’re all offended?

    I’d sit down and try to figure that one out but it’s not worth the headache.

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    • And these dudes REGULARLY talk about how women are little more than disposable semen receptacles. And believe it or not, women (particularly black women) are the biggest consumers of their music.

      .**things that make you go “hmmmm”**

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    • I’d sit down and try to figure that one out but it’s not worth the headache.

      The VSBs have termed it “chick logic” or something along those lines… :) … It’s the most interesting of things…

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  60. “black women love thugs” – Women love men. Just like some black men, some black women dont understand what it means to be a man or what a man is.

    “(educated) black women hate giving head…and are terrible at it when they do” – I swear fo gawhd this is a lie.

    And that is all

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  61. Actually, one doesn’t have to go far to shatter those stereotypes. This website alone and porn pretty much take care of that.

    From what I’ve heard (because I live cloistered away from all temptation and technology – don’t ask how this comment got written) even in the filmed business, black women give the best. Who else has got that head bobbing move down pat? You know, the chicken neck move/if I didn’t have this in my mouth you’d think I was about the tell somebody off?

    Ahem. I could go on but this is not the place to elaborate. . . again on things that I’ve only heard 5th hand. . .

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    • BTW, I recognize the irony in using porn to disprove a stereotype. Explaining why this is still a valid argument is an exercise left to the reader.

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  62. I have yet to really read all the comments but I’m pretty sure folks are up in arms at what he said in some way shape or form, which truly baffles me. lol. the fact that freakin’ Dr. Marc Lamont Hill would even go out of his way on a Monday or Tuesday to pen a respone seems like such a waste of time…

    it’s slim.thug. he don’t take ‘em out to eat. i read his comments the same way i watch Baby Boy – i treat it all as comedy. the fact that ANYBODY would be up in arms at statements made by somebody named Slim Thug is beyond me anyway. that’s like asking for religious discourse from Lil B cuz he tells folks that “he looks like jesus”.

    frankly, i laughed the whole way thru reading it. his quip about his mixed girl cooking for him b/c of her white side damn near got me fired. i had to close my office door AND muffle my laughter. hell, it’s my gchat status right now. i love ignorance. he is slim thug. ignorance is his forté.

    for some reason this matters more b/c its in Vibe? gtfohwtbs. who the f*ck reads Vibe anyway? the internet makes people’s comments daily fodder so that’s great b/c it gives folks something to care about for a second, but uproar?

    motherf*cker please. i sent that article to people who responded back to me UPSET. im like really? It aint like Obama came out and said, “b*tches ain’t sh*t but hoes and tricks”.

    oh, and here’s a real snifter! (by the way, misusing words is my new sh*t), some of what he was saying wasn’t wrong. the whole spiel about men and women’s priorities wasn’t wrong.

    but yeah, black women are uber supportive. period. i think we all know that. anybody who read what he told to somebody else and got up in arms really should consider the source on that one. it’s slim thugga motherf*cker, y’all must don’t know his name. see? he told us.

    and yes, champ, there’s some pandering going on here. lol.

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    • lmao @ that’s like asking for religious discourse from Lil B cuz he tells folks that “he looks like jesus”.

      oh the hilarity of it all. def entertaining.

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        • overit (shout out to my etwin)?

          Where is she btw? Miss her!

          Just like you, when I’m over something, I Liz shrug it out and call out next. No need to get all up in arms over Slim Thug’s musings… and truly, how far fetched is his viewpoint from his substandard lyrics anyways? People are acting all surprised like, it’s something new…

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        • is that what women do when they’re over it? get upset? heaven help!

          I can understand letting shrugging it off, but it depends on what the situation is for me. I am a venter so I got to say how I feel honey! So I am speaking for the many women venters who spoke their disappointments lol.

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  63. Lawd I’m afraid to read the replies as I know we are having a field day on this one. What’s sad is that these stereotypes about black women came from one source: Black men. I know this to be true because who else dates us in majority? Let’s be honest here. Most races don’t want us because of all the stereotypes. Do I care? Not really because here are somethings I learned about Black women and being a black woman:

    1) We LOVE Black men. So much so that we rarely date outside our race. It’s almost common to see a black man with any race woman but not very often do you see a black woman with any race man. Think about that and let me know if I’m right. I also read some poll online that shows black women to be the most faithful, we had a lower rate of infidelity over white women. Don’t know if that’s true but interesting none the less.

    2) We support Black men before anyone else does. If any Black man thinks that a white, hispanic, asian or other woman can empathize, support, and relate to his burdens over a Black woman…he”s a fool…and I know from personal experience that if you eff up…that white woman will leave you faster than Usain Bolt runs a mile. I always know this stereotype to be true: NO ONE can understand you better than your own.

    3) Who says we’re not good in bed??? I know for a fact we ride the D better than white woman. The African woman invented hip grinding…it’s in our soul to move well. If we really wanna get gully..the slave owners was creepin into the slave quarters to get that ooh wee they weren’t getting from Becky. I see the way white, hispanic, other men stare at me and my Black friends EVERYWHERE we go. You know they know we’re good. I think the head myth got started because Yes you can talk a white woman into doing something more easily than a sista. Sorry if I sound racist but it’s true. I’m sure the first time a Black man asked a sista to swallow, she gave him the ninja please look. So, just because they may let you eff their mouth and nut on their face…doesn’t mean they’re better. TRUTH.

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    • Oh and if we want to talk about CARING for a man…our ancestors taught white women how to cook, clean, raise kids, sew, etc.

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    • cosign entirely…not only do they stare and damn near break ‘they’ (using Panama’s ‘using the wrong word intentionally’ theory) necks but more and more men of other races are checking out my ‘rearage’ to the point where it will make me uncomfortable (got use to black men doing it, now I have to worry about Bill and Habib smh)

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      • Habib (chuckles)

        like re-re’s vertebrae alignment, those breasts are throwing me off. Everything I see them, it’s like someone tried to be funny and went too far with photoshop. But dang, these things are real.

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    • @SmartFoxGirl,

      “I know for a fact we ride the D better than white woman.”

      This is very true. *shakes head greatly in agreement*

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      • This is very true. *shakes head greatly in agreement*

        I’m not sure your girl is going to like that… :lol:

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  64. Man, where should I start? Let’s just dive into it, then.

    I saw links to this interview earlier this week. Did I click on them? No. Why, you may ask? Because I knew something that would cause women like the VSSs like they have today would come out of it. The fact that I live in Houston and I listened to Slim Thug’s and know about his local popularity, I knew there was not going to be an enlightening inking about what he had to say.

    Now, The Champ is correct with his presented stereotypes being nothing but crock of bull. Black women do support their men. They just don’t support weak @$$ ni@@as, especially women who have some common sense. Some may take longer than others to realize it but in the end, women hate weak men in any aspect, and there are a lot of weak @$$ ni@@as walking around here making it harder to for good black men to meet and get to know good black women. Forget bi**h@ssness. No more weak@ssness.
    Immature women like thugs. Champ hit the nail on the head with that one.
    A black woman will give you good head if she likes you. If you feel like a black woman is giving you weak head, she might not be feeling you like you think she does. Women are pretty damn smart. There are probably some Phd sistas that could suck your back into your stomach (if you are into that sort of thing), but if she ain’t feeling you, you probably never know. Ain’t nothing wrong with some class from a woman. Momma always told y’all not to put foreign objects in your mouth all the time anyway.
    This country is full of people that don’t take good care of their bodies, no matter what race it is. I feel like that black women may get focused on a bit more in this country is probably because when a black woman is on it bodywise, with all of her natural curvature, she is a dangerous, and I mean DANGEROUS (#noAkon) force of nature. So that is probably just hating.

    Look, we have all had be around women that can make those stereotypes true, but that’s the thing about stereotypes. It takes one idiot to make one thing that someone does to make it the judgment of an overall group of people. There are good and bad examples of every race of man and woman on this earth. We all have every right to life, but I wish more people would just shut up once in awhile. I’ve said it before on here, but I like saying it so I’ll say it again. Black women have every right to be intelligent, beautiful, educated, classy, funny and gorilla-f*cked, and not have to apologize for it. This “attack” against black women this year, especially the beautiful, intelligent, well-spoken ones, is getting pretty damn annoying. I got a niece that is going to college that I am very protective of and if it is a bad thing for her to be educated, pretty and selective against weak @ss ni@@as, then I am about to have a real problem with the status quo. The sh!t is stupid.

    Much love the VSSs. Y’all have let me know that a soft-spoken glasses-wearing guy who read comic books can actually get some love in this world.

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    • I feel like that black women may get focused on a bit more in this country is probably because when a black woman is on it bodywise, with all of her natural curvature, she is a dangerous, and I mean DANGEROUS (#noAkon) force of nature. So that is probably just hating.

      I cosign this whole comment. Plastic surgery is on the rise when it just comes naturally for us. Only a sista can have big breasts AND big *ss…with thick thighs to boot. Haters. Being that I have none of these, (i’m built like an indian woman) I will stop and congratulate a sista with beautifully big assets.

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      • @SmartFoxGirl,

        First of all, how you want to marry me and you don’t even know what I look like? lmao

        Secondly, this here: “(i’m built like an indian woman)”, I don’t believe you, you need more people. lol

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        • Love is blind baby…and yes I have an “other” persons body. Just regular from head to toe. lol I wanna be stacked like them african women. Wulla wulla weh un na na yeh

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    • @ComicBookGuy

      “Momma always told y’all not to put foreign objects in your mouth all the time anyway.”

      LMAO!!!

      “This “attack” against black women this year, especially the beautiful, intelligent, well-spoken ones, is getting pretty damn annoying”

      IT REALLY IS!!! “Just shoot me now!” is the thought that comes to mind each time someone else goes on a rant and then I think about Joel Mchale on ‘The Soup’ taking that fake gun to his head & pulling the trigger. (I love that show)

      “Y’all have let me know that a soft-spoken glasses-wearing guy who read comic books can actually get some love in this world.”

      Awwwwwwww & you know what…I LIKE guys like THAT! Especially when he can draw. LOL *hugs*

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      • @TheOpinionated1,

        Funny. I used to draw a lot in high school, but lost my love for it after being flogged by my professors for my engineering drawings in college. Speaking of comic books, it’s Wednesday aka new comic day. Will be stopping by the comic book store at lunch.

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          • Don’t worry. The love for has always been there. I sketch stuff every once in a while. My love of art continues my niece who is going to major in architecture. I give her my old comics that I don’t want to keep and uses them for inspiration.

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    • “Momma always told y’all not to put foreign objects in your mouth all the time anyway.”
      LMAO!!! my computer screen thank you for the drops of water i spit on it… #fail

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    • “Momma always told y’all not to put foreign objects in your mouth all the time anyway.”
      LMAO!!! my computer screen thanks you for the drops of water i spit on it… #fail
      if you feel like it’s getting annoying.. imagine how women feel? i look at thoughts like these and wonder “why?” i have enough on my shoulders without having to deal with all the fallacies thought about me too..
      not only that, but if black men don’t even wanna deal with us then what’s left? however, for those that subscribe to slim thug’s brand of thinking.. i don’t wanna deal with you anyway.. and since you don’t wanna deal with me, then we just filtered each other out of the pool…
      so “thank you..”

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      • @Natasha,

        Thanks a lot. I’m just really getting tired of weak @ss ni@@as walking around here. It’s like they are getting paid by the hour. Take care of your women, take care of your kids, get a job. Just tired of excuses. Every time I talk to my mom and sister, I realize that I am a really lucky dude to have had them in my life.

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      • @Nick_L_Odeon,

        I was waiting for it. lol Almost erased it but I wanted to see who would catch it. Nice avatar, by the way. I see ya with the nails did.

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        • thank you sweetie.. i do my nails a bit too much..
          lol.. yeah, i don’t let much slide..
          it’s like i need to let everyone know “you didn’t get it past me”..

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  66. “i will concede that a rapper, athlete, or entertainer might encounter a different type of woman than the “average” black man. if you (willingly) move in circles were a woman’s interest and eventual wetness is usually directly correlated to the size of your rims, you’re probably more likely to encounter, well, women whose interest and eventual wetness is directly correlated to the size of your rims.”

    Mann, this is the only article I have read so far the hit the “nail on the coffin”….All these “educated” professors going in on Slim like he’s is suppose to make sense. He’s a rapper. Enough said. Obviously he’s speaking from his perspective and his friends. Thank you VSB for being “Smart”…

    Awready (Southside Till I Die, TX)

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    • “Mann, this is the only article I have read so far the hit the “nail on the coffin”….All these “educated” professors going in on Slim like he’s is suppose to make sense. He’s a rapper. Enough said. Obviously he’s speaking from his perspective and his friends. Thank you VSB for being “Smart”…”

      i try. welcome and sh*t, btw

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    • All these “educated” professors going in on Slim like he’s is suppose to make sense.

      In a nutshell! :)

      It’s Slim Thug…. Slim Thug!!!! He makes sense to his crowd and little friends. He shouldn’t make sense to you… and if he does, then my bad :lol:

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  67. Taking a trip down memory lane of past relationships:

    Ex #1 – Didn’t work out. However, she held it down for a brotha while I was pledging.

    Ex #2 – My last year of undergrad… a brotha was under, and i mean under! At this point, I was just trying to make it to the land of B.A.’s and B.S.’ses… she was getting deployed, and was home for a couple weeks before leaving. We had a snow/ice storm that year. Nothing too major. Her first night back home, she drives in the snow/ice to see me just so we can exchange Christmas gifts.

    Ex #3 – She was from the Carribbean. She went back home for a couple of weeks. Meanwhile, I managed to get into a wreck. Totaled my car. Called and told her about it. Ironically, I had a spare key, and she told me to drive her car as long as i needed to.

    Ex #4 – Cooked for me. Made me lunches for work. Took care of me while I was sick. Helped me get my car fixed at one point. Was there for me at my highest and lowest points. Supported my endeavors.

    And these are just things off the top of my head. This doesn’t include the black women I dated, talked to, had flings with, etc, who I was never in a relationship with… who still played supportive roles at times without even having the title.

    You can’t tell me black women aren’t supportive.

    Also, about Slim Thug’s article:

    “My girl is Black and White. I guess the half White in her is where she still cooks and do all the sh** that I say, so we make it. She just takes care of me and I like that.”

    So it’s her white side that supports you? Really doggie?

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      • @ TheOpinionated1,

        Thanks. Black women have been taken thru the ringer in 2010. We need more positive articles to negate all of the bad press.

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    • @SouthernCharm,

      “My girl is Black and White. I guess the half White in her is where she still cooks and do all the sh** that I say, so we make it. She just takes care of me and I like that.”

      See, it’s stuff like that makes me glad I stay away from reading anything he had to say. What an idiot.

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  68. some one mentioning the stereotype “Any long hair is weave or a wig” reminded me of another stereotype, one that other black women all too often make…

    -black women who perm their hair and/or wear weaves/wigs hate themselves and their “natural” beauty.

    i know this is a sensitive subject for many. and while its true many women think that “nappy” is ugly or unflattering, there are plenty of women who dont. and just like doing different styles and having different looks. and some women like the convenience of not having to deal with “natural” hair (its harder, more expensive, and more time consuming for me to manage my hair in its naturally curly state than it is when its pressed–natural hair takes work!). not all women alter their hair pattern out of self-hate or to be beckys.

    it just makes me sad (and irritated) when black women start bangin on each other over hair. HAIR! why cant we embrace the diversity and style black women bring about with the keratin that grows out of the dermis on their heads? yes, we should be mindful of making sure our black children know their natural hair (body, etc) is beautiful but they should also know they can still be beautiful if they change it up with a track or press or whatever.

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    • @Gem of the Ocean

      “-black women who perm their hair and/or wear weaves/wigs hate themselves and their “natural” beauty.”

      I would also like to add that all Black women with natural hair are not soulful pro-black revolutionaries.

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      • THANK YOU!!!!! ive met plenty of “natural” chicks who are shallow, dumb as rocks, and straight up a$$holes.

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    • thank you!!!
      i got my “Babylon system establishment” friend that seems to think i should be cutting my hair off and going natural..
      i’m like, “peer pressure didn’t work for me in elementary.. what make you think that’s gonna happen now..” she’s always trying to inflict her way of thinking over here..
      and then the next moment be all like “OH.. you look latina when you wear your hair wavy.. and all the dudes love that..”
      STOP TALKIN ABOUT MY HAIR!!
      then i got my Buddhist friend that’s all like “at least i don’T bow down to the chemicals..”
      and i look at her like, “b*tch please!! but you’ll wear fake nails and bleach yo mustache.. (no michael jackson..)
      GTFOHWTBS!!
      it’s BEYOND annoying!!

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    • you know what else..
      “black women don’t like their hair touched..”

      i can’t tell you how many times i’ve heard this.. and i gotta be like “pull it homeboy, stroke it.. yank it.. it won’t come out!!”
      but i won’t get into the whole “good hair” side of this argument..

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    • @Gem of the Ocean,
      Co-sign! I been natural for 7 years (twists, puffs, curly fros, up-does…oh my!), and started pressing my hair again for the last 3 months. I have a lot of hair and it takes time to style. Even a wash and go isn’t simple for dense curly hair. I like sitting in a chair for now and letting someone else do it. All hair is beautiful. Like my mom would say, “Any hair on your head is good hair”.

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  69. @ Champ “if anything, you can make the case that (generally speaking) black women are TOO supporting, too willing to sacrifice themselves and their well-being for the betterment of black men and the black community, but thats a topic for another day.”

    I cant wait for that day…

    (educated) black women hate giving head…and are terrible at it when they do

    Sighhh. I have around equal terrain with both races and I think the major difference is what hcamp says about being more selective with who they fellate. While Beckys will give out a lewinsky as a greeting. What does this mean? Sometimes you gotta prove what you will do for a man to keep him off the bat. I kid i kid.

    Unlike champ my experiences have never been bad. Actually, very positive. very positive. *Runs to nearest tanning salon/spa to scoop a becky*

    The one negative experience I have has come from a educated black sistah. I know many who say they dont who are all black. cant name a SINGLE white chick who says they wont. Now before women go and say we like to keep that private. Trust we talk to our boys and vocalizing that you dont give head will even make a dime look like a 6. Stop playing games, no need for shame baby. I believe in reciprocity.

    In regards to taking care of bodies. Hell no one does. However, obesity and other illnesses that are tied to weight issues are very prevalent in the black community. White women jog alllllllll day long or don’t eat food. I personally prefer my women thick, southern thick not precious thick.

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    • “I know many who say they dont who are all black”

      i knew women like this in college, but it seems like grew out of it once they hit the mid-20′s. or, maybe they all died off. either way, i dont encounter this chicks anymore

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      • mid 20′s….This aint stock. I dont have time to wait for my investment to mature. I NEED THIS NOW!!!

        “Hold on while I muster up the courage.”-Sistah
        “Ninja please, becky down the street is already on it. Lata”-Brotha.

        and thats how we lost another one….

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        • ^I’d wager that is partly men’s fault. The minute a man grabbed his junk and told a woman to suck his d*** as an insult or music made oral into a nasty thing, some sistah’s began to associate it with “hoe-dom” or “nastyness”. Any woman being disrespected about being permiscuous was humiliated specifically about fe**atio. “She swallowed it” was used to deride and I’m sorry I had to get graphic but that was the image and perception left in some women. So if some are not doing it, that might be a small reason why. Americans can be uptight about sexuality anyway. But, when you add the history of black women in this country during and after slavery and facing the stereotype of being over-sexed, then some are hesitant. Now, I ain’t saying it’s right, but it’s a small reason. Plus, everybody’s parents didn’t keep it real about sexuality and share that it is and can be beautiful. A lot of women were simply told to keep their legs closed (good, respectbale girls didn’t) and men to sew their oats. Brothers feeling Becky don’t mind needs to recognize that some sister’s are finding out Biff doesn’t mind either. Brother’s have had the same sexual hesitation and hang-up with giving oral to a woman. That said, I hope we are all moving beyond that (if it’s confortable for you). Anytime I come across a man or woman who refuses to do oral for soemone they love and is in a committed relationship with I look at em’ like discontinued labels. “They still make you???!!! WTF!”

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  70. I honestly think the point of the media frenzy is to further the divide b/n black men and black women. A divided community can never be strong. The sad thing is that so many of us fall for and buy into it. If we are constantly at each other’s throat how can we concentrate on the issues that we face, how are we supposed to work together to make anything better if we are constanntly fighting. What other group of ppl do we see doing this to each other. We both need to uphold the men and women in our communities but we tear each other down and the encouragement of the media. It’s such a shame.

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    • I dont think the media or the man is out to get us(but then thats prolly exactly what they want me to think). I think if anything they are shedding light on the problem of incarcerations, becky chasers, and how these amongst other things leaves you all unwed. As black women yall will naturally become black mothers(ideally we would be black fathers but lets not bank on that). By shedding light I think it should encourage us to come closer together. Have perhaps speed dating and other gatherings where you ninjas dont have your guards up nor dance in packs preventing men from approaching you. Obviously as a black male we have alot to do too(understatement). I personally feel as though women are in control of most situations and if you all say what you want/expect many of us will respond accordingly because of the power of the *P*.

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    • I agree with you. The corporate elite do have some control of the media. The fact that I have seen this story in so many forms on blogs, newspapers, national news, etc. It just seems a little odd. NOBODY cares about us, NOBODY is trying to fix our community. This is either being done because white people get a thrill out of putting us down(just look at the comments from are less melaninated brothers & sisters on a forum discussing this topic) or further undoing all social cohesion we have left is on the agenda.

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  71. @The Champ

    This is totally off topic but I’m so mad I missed you in NYC last week! I ended up going out of town for the weekend. I totally forgot about the Matchmaker event when I was booking my flight. Seriously, i would have pushed my trip back if I had remembered, i was looking forward to it :-(

    Oh well…. catch up w ya next time.

    Oh yeah, I didn’t get a chance to comment on your post yesterday but I must say the latter part about you being introverted and having difficulty switching gears from online to in-person was very sincere and candid. As a woman, i appreciate a man that is grounded enough to speak openly and honestly about his (perceived) flaws and/or shortcomings. Especially in a public forum. It makes you seem human. It seems men (esp black men) these days are so caught up in playing this “role” (i.e. cocky, invincible, infallible) because they want to impress women (which probably works 83% of the time) so its refreshing to hear a little honesty and keepin-it-real-ness for a change. I commend you.

    Ok enough with the mushy stuff…. F*CK SLIM THUG!!!!

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    • “Oh yeah, I didn’t get a chance to comment on your post yesterday but I must say the latter part about you being introverted and having difficulty switching gears from online to in-person was very sincere and candid”

      thanks and sh*t. and yeah, enough people read this who know me in real life that would call me out if i tried to portray myself as something i’m not***. but, i do understand why some guys feel the need to put up that type of shield, especially if (like you alluded to) it impresses people.

      ***that sentence was constructed horribly, but i think you see what i mean

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  72. @ Champ:

    Just came to say that the NBA rebuttal has BEEN finished. I’ll post it when you want, either back in that thread or here….today I understand you’re dealing with some plex by da self-claimed boss of the nawfside…

    **back to work**

    Bond. BlkBond.

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    • Just came to say that the NBA rebuttal has BEEN finished. I’ll post it when you want, either back in that thread or here….today I understand you’re dealing with some plex by da self-claimed boss of the nawfside…

      bring it. and, i’m flattered and honored that you spend two weeks writing this.

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      • Be honored, not flattered my friend.

        I didn’t spend two weeks, I have been busy. Along with my real world problems, the blogosphere has decided to give me some as well.

        (Tupac voice) How do you want it?

        Bond.

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    • “I understand you’re dealing with some plex by da self-claimed boss of the nawfside…

      Silliness. :) We barr no plex round chere. :)

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  73. heard about this Slim Thug mess and I just read his article on Vibe and was just disgusted. Not only is he further contributing to the falseness of what a real black woman’s character is he is further pushing men of all races away from dating us. Its bad enough we have a difficult time meeting someone but to be put on blast for actions made by silly ghetto street walking trash groupies that follow rappers, sport stars, and drug slinging pookey and them around trying to get a free ride because they are too stupid to get an education and career is just ridiculous. This needs to stop. And may I add that Slim Thug before posting that nonesense should have had his Columbia graduate mix breed g/f proofread his article and give him some grammer/english lessons. I’ve always been very supportative of the guys I’ve dated. I am just over all these influencial/semi-influencial black men contributing to these stereotypes about a black woman’s character…its just sad and damn near depressing to know that our own people are bringing us down.

    And to note on the comment that black women do not take care of themselves….I would like to add that I do take care of myself…I run at least 3 times a week and try to eat as healthy as possible..I see plenty of black women at the park running and being healthy.

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  74. I don’t know if this has already been said in an earlier comment, but I think that this post is applicable to latin women as well. The media portrays us as some jezebelles who run around ruining marriages with our sensual lolita ways. Much like black women though, the number of latin women in college vastly outnumbers the number of latin men, they’re the ones with better credit, they open small businesses, and they’re the ones (generally speaking) busting their butts trying to do better.

    After a period of remorse for dating other ethnicities, I decided to go on a latino-only diet. The men I encountered (for the record NOT ALL LATIN MEN), were just struggling to catch up. Not only were they struggling, they weren’t even trying to be on anything legitimate.

    In my mind, the biggest question that I think applies to latin and black women is “Why should we coddle men who aren’t about anything?” Why must we be a mother/a housekeeper/a great lover/a dime AND be in “our man’s corner?” As supportive as we are, as much settling as we do and as much crap as we accept, some of these cats don’t deserve us in their corner…

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    • you know, i never really thought about any struggles latinas have, just because it seems like the stereotypes about latinas seem to be “positive” ones.

      anyway, welcome and sh*t

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  75. WISE MEN DONT ARGUE WITH FOOLS… bottom line. i really appreciated MLH’s response to Slime B*tch’s comments.. but my SO on the other hand thought it was “panty pandering” #whatever But the part when he talked about black women being mules for their men, it did make me LOL and think about one of Biggie’s lines “Half a brick of yay in her bra, where her t*tties at?” (Or whatshisface from the Lox “transportin in her chocha…”) I don’t know how many women are actually doing this but they make it sound so cool in the rap songs lol.

    But seriously though that sh*t was just garbage.. I’m half white too but I don’t separate the two sides of me like ‘oh the white side of me feels like cooking a nice meal for my man but the black side wants to curse him out and go upside his head with a frying pan’ what kind of schizo sh*t is that..

    Oh and people saying black women don’t give the skullduggery???? Where dey do dat at??? (always wanted to say that lol) I been around black women my whole life, belong to a black sorority, and have lots of black female friends… and I’ve NEVER in my life heard nere notta one of em say that they don’t give head. What kinda bull is that

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    • Oh and people saying black women don’t give the skullduggery???? Where dey do dat at???

      lol, these guys obviously never met any chicks from the hill.

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  76. *Bravo*
    Slim Thugs comments speak to an inferiority complex…if I had to guess I would say that just as he associates White women with “good” or “better” than Black women, he does the same regarding Black/White men.

    I’ll also add that any White woman associating herself with the likes of Slim Thug and his ilk has extremely low self esteem from to begin with…so I can see how dudes like him could be so happy w/ women they can walk all over. No self-respecting White woman would accept the stigma of dating interacially just to be with a grown man wearing braids with beads on the ends!

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    • No self-respecting White woman would accept the stigma of dating interacially just to be with a grown man wearing braids with beads on the ends!

      LOL.

      long time no type and sh*t

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  77. Too many comments to read.

    Whenever I hear negative things said about Black women, I remind people that Black women keep having babies. We’re obviously not to fat, too unsupportive, too uppity for men.

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  78. *Picks up mic and stands on soapbox*

    Hmmm, the unsupportive black woman is definitely maligned by the media and by uneducated black men. And this Slim Thug might be right. I say this because I do not support stupidity. And most “endeavors” of the local neighborhood hood figga are just that. Hood figgas want women to support their drug habits, drug business, and drug convictions. Mr. Slim Thug probably had a girlfriend leave him when he got locked up, for the 14th time, and that means she is unsupportive.

    *Extreme side eye* *BBM Child Please Face* *Drops mic*

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      • I think I’ve lurked long enough to jump up on a soapbox… Plus: I’m kind of short so I need to stand a little taller…

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    • Slim Thug. is a well off surburban bama, perpetrating a fraud hon…that part of his wack allure. He is not street or even hood LLS.
      Most hood nuccas have more sense than this clown ass

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  80. Off topic: Anyone peep that the sistah in the pic above was the Baltimore government sistah in The Wire and was in “Love, Sex, and Eating the Bones” with Hill Harper?

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  81. other stereotypes: (in no particular order)

    1. we all have huge asses you could sit a coffee mug on-> seriously, I think I only have two friends with booties like this and one of them is white…and mormon, go figure.

    2. it’s impossible for us to have “good” hair -no lye-> the number of times someone has asked if my hair is mine or real or whatever. especially when it’s curly, they say, “Omg, what did you do to your hair!” Nothing…not literally nothing. Got out the shower and didn’t blow it out.

    3. we all have wide noses->this might be more black people in general, but i always get asked who “did” my nose. Um…my parents? God?

    4. we’re all pissed-> i wonder why.

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    • 1) Im sorry but sistahs do by far compared to other races(not counting PR and DR which contain black ancestry) have big asses. Is this even negative? I personally think its a beautiful thing, compliments your nice full lips.
      2) lol
      3) definetly blacks in general get that stereotype. Big lips, nose, booty *cue blackface image*. There is some truth to this as a stereotype. Amazed that someone said that to you though.
      4) HAHAH. Blame tyler perry!

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  82. A few stereotypes:

    Stereotype:
    Black women all they do is yap off at the mouth to their man.
    Reality:
    Correction all women yap off at the mouth, other races just wait until they get in the house/car before the yap off.

    Stereotype:
    Black women only want your money and are gold diggers.
    Reality:
    If you think Becky is with you for your good looks, you are wrong. She is with you for potential and when you lose potential she is out. I have two uncles currently going through a divorce because their women found bigger and better. I also know of a girl who stayed with her man through college (nba potential) and when they graduated and he didn’t get drafted, she left him for a white man. Mind you she washed his closed, fed him, did it all. Trust she is a smart gold digger and you don’t even know.

    Those are my two cents.

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  83. Hi Champ:

    Thanks for this post just wanted to comment on “silly woman love thugs”. I like the way you put this and it’s funny because just about a week ago I was trying to figure why exactly that is. I know as educated as I am (B.A. in Sociology from SJU), not much just saying; I definitely took that walk on the “thug side”. I can’t speak for anyone else but I believe that the unconscious hope behind getting involved with a thug is hoping or thinking that one can change another. For me I think it was this call to nurturing and wanting to show my ex-factor that there was so much more to life on the “legit side of town”. I also think there were some underlying control issues on my behalf because I honestly felt superior on an intellectual level. Other than that it’s exactly how you called it “silly”, because I’m still smh years later as to why I was ever in that situation. I will always be supportive to whomever I end up with down the road yet I will expect that same supportive nature from my mate.

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  85. Thoughts

    1. Slim Thugg really?? Who is he?? I live in TX and wouldnt support the garbage that is his craft. So I doubt he’d be able to do anything extracirricular like give relationship advice.

    2. I find myself being hypocritical when I lose black men to a woman of another race. There are some i’m willing to sacrifice…we can go ahead and chop him off the list of ones we’d like to keep.

    3. I love champ, I read daily now that school is out (I’m a teacher) it’s kinda the highlight of the morning.

    4. Panama, you cause me to laugh loudly in the most inappropriate places…not cool sir!

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  86. I am a new lurker. Only found this site yesterday. I browsed and read a few articles including this one. You guys balance the speak truf/dropping knowledge/keeping it real/saying it plain very well all the while keeping it very entertaining and funny lol. Well done.

    Thanks for this article, love your take on the whole slim thug (who?) situation. I don’t think when your name is “thug” that your opinion should matter *shrug*

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  87. don’t why any of us are paying any attention to “soon to be broke” thug. I can only imagine that his educated lady is calculating his demise and waiting to take her piece of him and skip town. Sistas are always holding down their man and have been doing it for centuries without complaint (most of the time).

    Peace, Love and Chocolate
    Tiffany

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  88. Another Black woman myth is that of the “gold digger”. Sh*t, if Black women are like 90% likely to date Black men and you look at Black mens incarceration, unemployment, and higher education statistics the point of dating them for money is moot. I for one have dated many brothers who earn less than me and am often met with hostility and resentment because of it. I’m on some “negro make up your mind” space. I can’t… Oh and White women invented “gold digging”. The end…

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  89. This is a great topic, and while I’m glad you made your points, I’m disappointed in the racist undertone of the column. I had a hard time getting past the photo and caption, and completely stopped reading after you asked readers to forgive you for being with a white woman. I suppose there’s not much point in my posting this comment since you clearly have a chip on your shoulder toward us white girls, but as some one who works in the mainstream media, I think my point of view is vaid and you shld know that you lack credibility in my book since you are so clearly bias. You really can build your black audience without hating on white people.

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    • Sorry dear….but the truth is that you will probably NEVER experience the same type of discrimination and difficulty us Black women have, do, and will most likely have to face simply because of race. Because of this, I highly doubt that you’ll be able to understand the tone of the blog….nobody hates whites, no one is saying that whites are above or below, it IS being acknowledged that we Black women are getting blasted from all angles for all reasons, and the common stereotypes about us are ridiculous. That’s the main point….not “let’s trash Becky just because”.

      Accept history- white women have always been set up as “the beauty standard” and we women of color have had to deal with constant berating for not having the typical traits. We have learned to deal with the negative beliefs and misconceptions from many cultures (I’m speaking generally, and notice that I’m not pointing out white men specifically); however, when we become berated by Black men, the SAME group who has had to deal with many of the SAME types of discrimination and foul treatment we Black women have dealt with, things have reached a completely different level.

      Example? Black women are often STILL teased about skin complexion. Yep, even in this day, folks are STILL trippin’ about being with “redbones” and “lightbrights” over darker women. Yet, tanning is a very common practice. Black women are constantly criticized about out shapely figures; having hips, thick thighs, butts, full lips, etc are seen as traits of us bing fat our “out of shape”. Yet, the BIGGEST fad nowadays are butt enhancements; collagen injections into lips and hips are a billion-dollar industry. You see a pattern here?

      Not to be disrespectful, but what credibility do you hold in the first place? Have you ever experienced some of the stereotypes and discriminations listed in the post? Can you DIRECTLY relate to the complaints and comments listed by other readers?

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  91. I agree with all but the last one. Yes americans as a whole need to take better care of themeselves but black woman need to spend more time in the gym. A properly maintained black female body is one of if no God’s most beautiful creation. So ladies please keep it tight. This whole big is beautiful thing is strictly in our community and I think it is unattractive and UNHEALTHY. I’m not saying skinny is sexy because that is not my cup of tea either but if sistas spent as much time in the gym as all the white women in my office it would be a beautiful thing. Don’t get mad at me ladies. I just LOVE yall enough to tell you the truth.

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  93. ATTN: 2010 is NOT the year of “attacking the black woman” I’d give it circa 2006-present with the Don Imus, Asher Roth, and John Mayer.

    Noticeably those caucasian counterparts jumped on the PUBLIC bandwagon of degrading black women back then….now we have Chad OchoCinco, Terrell Owens, Marques Houston, and other black bamas who want to emerge from the wings of “sell out land” to throw salt in the womb. When will it ever end?

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  94. I’ll be short and quick.

    What’s the big deal? He stated an opinion, one that he is entitled to, and now everyone is up in arms about it? So now is it our job to persuade the slim thug to reverse is current way of thinking? NO. It’s this mans opinion, not saying that it’s right, but his nonetheless. If you don’t agree, then state why you don’t agree, but don’t go so far as to put the mans character in question.

    Personally I can say that I have met women like the ones he (slim thug) described, so I don’t see what the fuss is all about. If these type of women didn’t exist, then this blog could have never been written.

    There are not many black women that will date a brotha based simply on the fact that they share a genuine interest in one another. There usually comes into play that whole, “on my level crap.” Well if you are looking for the perfect man, then plan on riding solo for a long time. Black women have to accept at least some responsibility for why they are single, if they are single.

    Then theres the, “black women have supported black men in this country for the last blah blah blah.” Maybe true, but what is that doing the black man in the present? Maybe todays black woman should take on that persona of the black woman of old. Lower your nose just a tad.

    If a black man wants to date outside of his race, then so what! Same thing if a black woman chooses to experiment with someone other than a brotha. Someone find the rule book that says I ONLY have black women as an option. Why does a black man that isn’t tied to a black woman have to almost prove his blackness? If this bothers you, then maybe you should try someone other than a black man. Stop limiting yourselves.

    Now I will say that there are some black males that are not taking care of business. They do make it hard for black women, and no one should have to just settle. So I can agree on that much.

    If you don’t like what slim thug has to say, take a step back and see if there is any justification or reason why he was even able to formulate these thoughts in the first place.

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    • Sorry dude, but this just sounds like a more intelligent, “sensible” version of the Slim Thug rant. (Sigh)

      If I can address your points…
      - People are up in arms because we Black women are tired of the same ol’ “Black women are no good and single because….” crap that we’re constantly fed. It’s even worse coming from a Black male. I don’t think anyone really gives half a damn what Slim Thug actually thinks….or does, for that matter.

      -”Black women have upported Black men through the last blah blah blah….”. Hmmm. So….according to your logic, our support has actually caused Black fellas to slack off? MAYBE, just maybe…..certain Black fellas hae been so supported that they never grow up to realize that they live in this place called the World. Then they continue on with ridiculous, asinine activities. Example? How are you gonna be 42 years old, still rockin’ a grill, sellin’ CDs out the back of your Acura, talkin’ ’bout “I’m is on the come-up…word!” Go get your Uncle Joe, please.

      -”Now I will say that there are some black males that are not taking care of business. They do make it hard for black women, and no one should have to just settle. So I can agree on that much”…..makes PERFECT sense. So, if there are a few Sean’quittas out there making it hard for the rest of us VSBs, then we should all pay? Really?

      -”Then theres the, “black women have supported black men in this country for the last blah blah blah.” Maybe true, but what is that doing the black man in the present? Maybe todays black woman should take on that persona of the black woman of old. Lower your nose just a tad.”…..in other words, settle. Um, no thanks, bro. Instead of us lowering ourselves, how about you lift yourself up?

      Bottom line = real Black women are no longer going to stand for being doormats to ‘less than whack’ Black fellas who don’t want to grow up and take on the responsibilities a true man would. Slim Thug and all the fellas with his mindset are just that- little boys not able to mentally comprehend what being a man truly means. I mean….wasn’t he RAISED by a Black woman? You can try to make a logical argument from ol’ dude’s opinion all you want, but if you place roses on a pile of garbage, it STILL smells like bullisht.

      Stop it with the excuses.

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  95. taken from another blog….written by Chris

    The things I’ve witnessed over the past 10 days or so, especially tonight, have truly led me to understand why black women remain the most unmarried demographic of females in the entire fucking country. I can’t wait for Bill Cosby to write a followup to his original book “Come On, Ladies – Get The Fuck Out Of Your Own Way.”

    Jesus fucking goddamn Christ…I did not think it was physically possible for me to be this pissed off.

    Editor’s Note: So I don’t have to hear anymore dumbasses waxing retarded about my alleged hatred of black women, I’m posting a followup comment I made several days ago to the front page of this post. To the other dumbasses who think this post was the result of me being rejected by a black woman, you are wrong. Sorry. If you read this comment and still think I hate black women, feel free to kill yourself.

    The Comment:

    “I know my own self-worth and I won’t lower my standards for yackity yackity yackity yack…”

    What’s interesting about Muse’s response is that the problem good black men tend to have with black women (I’m leaving idiot black men out of the discussion because, like idiots of every color, they are irrelevant) is the very fact that so many women DO lower their standards. Then after getting burned they don’t raise their standards, they just come up with a bunch of stupid ones.

    Damn near every black woman travels this path:

    1. Fall for some assclown 50 cent lookalike wannabe music producer
    2. Get burned by the assclown, but in the process learn what you don’t want in a man
    3. Good guy falls in her lap, but she’s too busy dismissing him wholesale or beating him to death with her emotional baggage from the last relationship to realize she’s fucking herself over to, ironically, keep from getting fucked over

    To illustrate:

    Scenario 1) Sue is Jack’s “boo”. Jack doesn’t have a job, is forgiven. Jack cheats on Sue, is forgiven. Jack emotionally abuses Sue, is forgiven. Jack goes to jail on misdemeanor drug possession, is forgiven. Jack disrespects Jill’s friends, is forgiven. Jack reveals three illegitimate children, is forgiven.

    Scenario 2) After Sue finally dumps Jack, she meets Bill. He is attractive, intelligent, and funny. She learns he owns his home, has a stable and high-paying career, and volunteers frequently. Sue is really into this guy…until she learns he’s two years younger than she is, which is against one of the new horseshit relationship rules she pulled out of O Magazine. When he asks if he can call her, she says “you’re too young” and walks away.

    After exiting a bad relationship, women love to establish sets of criteria that their next guy will have to meet. This is a good concept except that the criteria the women pick are usually completely irrelevant when it comes to avoiding bad guys, and are at the same time remarkably effective at deflecting good guys. Shit like “I won’t date guys more than three years younger than me” or “I won’t give my number out at a bar” are typical examples of women thinking that having a lot of standards is the same thing as having good standards.

    Black women aren’t the only ones that do this of course – women in general just love to make good guys jump through a thousand hoops while inexplicably opening the floodgates for marginally charismatic jackasses.
    Non-black women, however, aren’t subject to the unfortunate and extremely unfair social circumstances that black women are; in short, black women, through no fault of their own, simply can’t afford to have this attitude.

    Every black woman hears this argument about being attracted to bad guys and dismissing the good and cries “NOT ME, I’M DIFFERENT!”, and yet – as so many black men on this board can attest – we see it happen more often than not. It’s like ten years ago before it was cool to admit to watching porn: everybody said “I don’t watch that filth!”, yet porn was somehow a multi-billion dollar industry.

    Other women throw nonsensical excuses at the person making the point:

    1.) The good guys coming at me are dorky, ugly, and/or have no game
    2.) You just hate black women
    3.) Your problem is that you just have a fetish for white/asian women
    4.) You hang out in the wrong places
    5.) Don’t be mad because black women aren’t throwing themselves at you

    I find it sad that in this age of female empowerment so many educated women are responding with this decidedly unempowering response. (Enthusiastically assigning blame to others robs you of the ability to fix the problem yourself and is decidedly unempowering.)

    Granted, I could be accused of doing exactly that…except for the qualifying word ‘enthusiastically’. It does not make me happy to recognize the seemingly pathologic attraction black women have to liars, cheaters, losers, deadbeats and gangbangers. This might sound arrogant, but fuck it…I truly wish that I could assign most or all of the blame for my own mishaps with black women and their frequent attraction to unworthy men on myself – if the problem is me, then at least I’m in control.

    I suppose I misspoke by saying these are all conclusions I came to in the last ten days. That’s not true; these opinions have been forming for years based on everything from personal experience to readings of doctoral dissertations (yea, I’m that asshole). It’s just the last ten days that finally set me off about it.

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    • @ Mike- I would love to debate this topic one day to get it out in the open, especially on VSB where there are plenty of VSS that could shed some light. Unfortunately the issue your bring up are often ignored and dismissed as if there are no valid points in there what so ever. Denial is a very powerful psychological coping strategy.

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  96. i agree with you 100%. I’m grew up with mostly boys. All of my favorite cousins are boys, i hung out with my dad and all his friends when i was younger, i have a younger brother (who i love and adore with all my heart). all of whom are black men. most of whom have openly told me that “the family is filled with black women that’s why i’m dating a white girl” or “wow that girl looks mean, but she’s lightskinned so it’s all right” and yes i did say that they say this in front of me. these are all the boys that i have cooked for & cried over. I have gone to every football/basketball game (or every game that i could). these boys/men are my heart and soul and they do not feel any loyalty to me or the black women who have loved/love them.
    so yes i agree black women as a ppl are far too supportive.
    (I’m and 18 year old college freshman)<<<don't know why thats significant but whatever lol

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  97. The champ,

    I agree with your post wholeheartedly. There are so many stereotypes about black women it’s too complicated to count them. the problem is when so many people believe them, especially as you were saying black men because this just separates us further as a race. stereotypes like these are unfair to so many black women who are nothing like they’re commonly depicted or thought of as. I hope people, especially blacks themselves, will work harder to reverse their way of thinking and combat these stereotypes that cause so many issues within society.

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  98. We got to understand that putting women in categories of black and white is the simple to try to justify our own stereotypes. If you have not read “The 52 Types Of Women” you might want to check it out and really look deep into the different types of women to get an understanding of what type of women you are dealing with and if that woman is right for you. One woman can be a queen for one man and hell on wheels for another.

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  101. I find it funny that Slim Thug could articulate. I met him and a woman he was dating back in 2006 at a Laker game. She was a regular black woman that complimented my hair and hair color. He just sorta grunted and stared at me like I had 2 heads. Needless to say I was not impressed with him at all. He has a right to his opinion and I have a right to ignore his azz!!

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