a law student, a lawyer, two neuroscience phd’s, an engineer, a banker/engineer, and a scientist/published writer enter a room.
although this sounds like the beginning of an extremely ambitious version of the aristocrats joke, the italicized sentence represents a (partial) resume description of each of the seven people i chilled with saturday evening, as what was originally just supposed to be a 6pm fish fry at the lawyer’s crib turned into a rum and coke and convo filled all-nighter (we didn’t leave until 3am).
with this cast of characters, you could reasonably assume that the conversations probably included topics such as the social dynamics behind the public reaction to the gulf oil spill, how black academics can learn from john wooden’s coaching legacy, why blanche devereaux was more carrie bradshaw than carrie bradshaw, and any other ridiculously intellectual subject that sounds like it could be a title of an article at the root, and you wouldn’t be wrong to make that assumption.
why? well, if you were to randomly ask 100 educated negroes to list 10 characteristics any potential mate and/or friend must have, “the ability to talk about immigration and irrigation and other serious topics“ would probably show up on 98 of the lists. typically speaking, we (educated negroes) are a bunch of pretentious assholes (on paper, at least) so it wouldn’t be completely off-base to think that this particular gathering of educated negroes contained more evidence of said pretentiousness.
in no specific order, these were the topics actually discussed saturday night:
homeless white women. the genital daredevil. running trains. how our white neighbors would react if we decided to grill chitlins. threesomes. royce reed. pretzel m&m’s. titties. freestyle rapping. mexican midgets. howie mandel’s sexuality. tok and the chi-chi man song. lebron, gloria, and delonte james. granny panties and soulful white men. white people are crazy
hmmm. not exactly real time with bill maher.
just to show that this night wasn’t an anomaly, here are some of the topics discussed during a black law association cookout i attended memorial day weekend:
dominican hairdressers. how burnt is too burnt for a hot dog. spades. road rage. parking spot chivalry. kanye. dating in pittsburgh. white people are crazy.
even i–a man with multiple public proclamations of love for women with “asses, glasses, and advanced degrees”–can’t remember the last time i had a long conversation with my soon to be phd’ed girlfriend about something that didn’t have to do with cats, netflix, sex, food, or her friends.
i’m not bringing this up to boast about how awesome my circle of friends are, or even to chide those who usually have conversations about serious topics in social settings, but to say that those actual serious conversations about afghanistan and health care and learned helplessness and the legality of profiling don’t actually happen…ever
wait, lemme rephrase that. it’s not that they don’t happen ever, but why do we put such a premium on a person being “informed” and “knowing about the issues” when we’re 100 times more likely to actually have conversations about drake than darfur?
you can probably say that the ability to have these conversations is m0re important than actually having them. but, if this is true, why stop at “the ability to have serious conversations“? why not list “the ability to fly a helicopter blindfolded” or “the ability to eat an entire kosher ice cream cake in one sitting” as well? i mean, i can surely think of a few circumstances (ie: hostage situations, jewish weddings, etc) when both of those skills would be extremely useful. its all the about the ability and potential, right?
since any hoodrat with an HD feed can speak in-depth about basketball wives, to me the focus on the serious convo is just a way to further hierarchy ourselves and our wants from the uneducated masses. this makes sense in theory, at least until you realize that the vast majority of us would much rather date or befriend someone who’d much rather expound on fiddy’s unexpected weight loss than the financial crisis.
i guess this makes us all hypocrites. but, i’ll be that as long as you can tell me were you’d rank ray allen on the list of ”top five NBA players with surprisingly good looking mothers“.
—the champ
“why blanche devereaux was more carrie bradshaw than carrie bradshaw”
Um. I say Blanche was more the OG Samantha.
I have to co-sign that observation. I think Dorothy would have to be Carrie but then again I barely watched SATC so that’s an uneducated hypothesis. (Look at me with the fancy words! The benefit of all that book learnin’!).
you know you had to do a spell check on that “hypothesis..” dictionary.com is yo friend..
MUAH!!
You’re right.
SATC, Living Single and Girlfriends all use the same character formula as Golden Girls. You might want to draw similar parallels to the Facts of Life, tho FOL started airing before GG, but didn’t get into a GG-like formula until later seasons.
Main Character, generally sensible:
Dorothy
Kadijah
Joan
Carrie
Dim, fun-loving one:
Rose
Synclaire
Lynn (though she wasn’t that dumb but definitely more free spirited in comparison to cast)
Charlotte
Sexpot, Self centered:
Blanche
Regine
Toni
Samantha
Smart, cynical:
Sophia
Max
Maya
Miranda
TV is cyclical. We’re all buying into the same storylines and characters.
@Liz,
That was a pretty damn good analysis, Liz.
Good analysis… but I’m willing to guess that it’s because it somewhat mirrors the “idealized” female relationship combos…
Although I find Carrie to be a dumber version of Dorothy… much dumber.
What? Moderation? Is “combo” a dirty word?
It’s probably how you said…you ain’t have to bring out the bedroom voice, smh.
That was supposed to be @Sula…
Now I am dying to know which one of my comments elicited such an *interesting* response… Lol.
And that was a response to @Shay’s response…
#vsbreplyfail.
Carrie was pretty dumb someitmes. I just didn’t like how she never knew what she wanted even though she came off like she knew everything.
Wow, this was pretty cool, Liz.
You’re absolutely right Liz. Designing Women did it, too.
Julia-sensible lead (also somewhat cynical)
Suzanne-sex pot
Charlene-dim bulb
Mary Jo-smart (not as cynical as Julia but she had a cynical streak, too)
Designing Women also had the token guy pal Anthony (Meshach Taylor–he looked so much like Arsenio Hall)
Girlfriends has William
Living Single had two in Overton and Kyle
Not so much in GG, but Stan, Dorothy’s ex could’ve fit the bill.
I didn’t watch SATC so I can’t comment there.
“Um. I say Blanche was more the OG Samantha.”
you’re probably right. question: how come whenever you have a show with three or more women, there always has to be one who is the hotpants one? why just one? why not none, and why not just have a show full of sluts?
these are the types of questions i need answered before the next fish fry
“why not just have a show full of sluts?”
I think they called that Flavor of Love.
THIS! or Basketball Wives, or pretty much ANYTHING on VH1…smh
But, where’s the fiction show full of sluts? Yeah, I know you can argue that today’s reality shows are fiction, but I’m talmbout non-reality shows. Sitcoms, dramas, etc.
“But, where’s the fiction show full of sluts?”
I think they call that Desperate Housewives.
But seriously, it would just be hard to have a fictional show full of sluts. The slut is usually the character that ladies secretly admire because of their “i’m getting mine/grab life by the balls” (pun intended) attitude, but not necessarily a character that they can connect with. You can’t have a fictional show with one type of character and have that character be someone that people can’t connect with. It would only work if you’re making pr0n, which might not get you aired on ABC. HBO on the other hand…
*nodding head* @That Damn African’s assessment
i’d have to agree with his assertion.
@That Damn African (love your name btw),
“I think they call that Desperate Housewives.”
LOL, I was waiting for someone to put those characters within each label. I don’t watch the show nor really listen about it in the media (kinda like I did with SATC…I never watched the whole series, but always got the gist before I started watching it) so I’m not familiar…so basically all of those women are promiscuous huh?
But yeah, I agree with your assessment. But, is it not possible to have a slut character with a heart of gold? Or a girl next door slut? I’m half-kidding.
I’ve watched every one of these shows (minus VH1′s current debauchery) and initially each of these shows work to portray women as strong independent characters in either traditional or non-traditional roles (mothers or as successful lawyers).
The problem is that chex is viewed both as an unstoppable form of entertainment as well as a sense of agency. The whole premise of SATC is that these women have it all, career success as well as the upper hand in sexual politics.
The Golden Girls revolves around showing that senior citizens are still viable people. They can still function independently and have sexual needs.
The only problem is that tv networks are whores. They will give it up to whatever gives them the most money. Therefore what initially is an opportunity to portray women as anti-stereotypical (catty useless housewives), they not only reinforce these stereotypes (passive aggressive fighting/endless gossiping), they create new ones (dirty husband-swapping jezebels)
@Cheekie
lol thanks for the name approval. I just tried to think of what people probably say to themselves when they see me coming (half-kidding).
“so basically all of those women are promiscuous huh?”
Honestly, I have no idea. I figure at least some of the characters participate in sluty shenanigans. I’ve never seen the show. But I figured it would be the most believable (i.e. get the most laughs). I swear, I don’t watch it every week while curled up in a blanket. No, seriously.
“But, is it not possible to have a slut character with a heart of gold? Or a girl next door slut? I’m half-kidding.”
Most of those characters are written so that they have a jaded sense of morals, which help them rationalize their decision to be promiscuous. However, every now and then they give them redeeming moments that show they are good people at heart, unless you’re Catherine Tramell. “See she’s the reason for the word bish” #3stacksvoice
gossip girl and 90210 perhaps?
“how come whenever you have a show with three or more women, there always has to be one who is the hotpants one?”
Since hypersexuality is typically a masculine trait, the over sexualized female character brings a male point of view to otherwise “typical” female subjects.
My educated guess or “hypothesis”.
@ Mrs. Dr. Evil
I love that your response read like an excerpt from a “Human Sexuality” text book! You just took me back to college
Human Growth and Development ED503
This is usually the dynamic of most crews in real life. I won’t tell you which one I am…
I think you’ve already told us, naturallyalise!
you’re probably right. question: how come whenever you have a show with three or more women, there always has to be one who is the hotpants one? why just one? why not none, and why not just have a show full of sluts?
Would Maxine Shaw in Living Single be considered the hotpants? Im on the fence about that one, if not then there is a counter example.
@Deeds
I think Max and Regine split the hot pants role. Except for when she was dating Kyle, Max was bedding a new dude almost every episode. Regine was a little less overt about the sex but she was also on the “by any means necessary” plot to land a rich dude.
I’d have to give it to Max over Regine. Although Maxine doesn’t relate directly to Blanche. I think she compares very closely with Samantha. Although professionally she’s more like Miranda, but then again Sam is very goal oriented too. Humm…anyway I think Blanche was unique in that the was both man hungry (regine/Charlotte) and a chexaholic (Samantha)
“Would Maxine Shaw in Living Single be considered the hotpants? Im on the fence about that one, if not then there is a counter example.”
i was thinking of regine when i wrote this, actually. she seemed to be the most focused on men and dating
Betty White (Rose) was no doubt Charlotte (aka the undercover freak). She up there causing men to have heart attack right after chex.
She’s my fav!
Regine is more of the hotpants than Maxine is… Maxine is more the “liberated, quasi-feminist” one… that comes with some hotpants activity too.
thats true….hoes run in packs, rat-packs.
but what bigger than a hood rat and just a nasty?
A HOODPOSSUM!
terribke strikes again
thats true….hoes run in packs, rat-packs. but what bigger than a hoodrat and just a nasty?
A HOODPOSSUM!
terribke strikes again
I’m a lawyer and so are most of my friends. However, we rarely discuss economics, politics and/or social issues because that is what work is for!! Instead our times together are an interesting mix of pop culture, relationship drama and food/liquor. Life is hard enough without my social time being consumed with the woes of the world.
As for dating, sure I’d like a man that’s aware of current affairs but that’s not as important as him being able to make me laugh or being willing to slide down to Takoma Station for Long Islands and Suttle Thoughts.
Some of us are too intellectual for our own good! Remove that pole from your a$$ and learn how to relax people.
“Remove that pole from your a$$ and learn how to relax”
***filed under “confusingly considerate things said by prison rapists”***
^^^That is a perfect example of why I love you! Not many people can make me laugh out loud by reading 1 sentence
lolol….. Dido….. The Champ knows how to play with words
I hatechu, Champ. Maybe a little less than Panda.
@Cheekie, you can lie to me, but don’t lie to yourself.
“you can lie to me, but don’t lie to yourself.”
Saying this 80-leven times doesn’t make it true. And. What.
“Life is hard enough without my social time being consumed with the woes of the world.”
I think this is what it really comes down to. No one wants to talk about the redistribution of wealth and Revelations when you’re trying to have a good time. I know I don’t. I rarely want to talk about my research when I’m out with friends. And I know they don’t want to hear about it anyway. Obviously there are instances where conversations like this happen, but they come few and far between when relaxing and hanging out with your friends/SO.
I echo what most people have already been saying: people want their SO to have the ability to have intellectual conversations about Barack Obama’s achievements/mistakes. Just don’t kill my buzz with that noise.
“I echo what most people have already been saying: people want their SO to have the ability to have intellectual conversations about Barack Obama’s achievements/mistakes. Just don’t kill my buzz with that noise.”
PREACH!!
“I echo what most people have already been saying: people want their SO to have the ability to have intellectual conversations about Barack Obama’s achievements/mistakes. Just don’t kill my buzz with that noise.”
PERFECT way to put it. This comment wins.
Last paragraph sums it up perfectly.
“I echo what most people have already been saying: people want their SO to have the ability to have intellectual conversations about Barack Obama’s achievements/mistakes.”
i agree. but my question is why? why place such a premium on something that rarely happens?
“i agree. but my question is why? why place such a premium on something that rarely happens?”
I guess it depends on what you mean by “rarely”. Yeah, serious topics may not happen everyday, but when they do, EVERYone is talking about it (from everyday folks to bloggers to big media), so it’ll nice to have someone to discuss intellectual topics with especially if it’s so important to pop culture. And yeah, the topic may pass into obscurity, but then again, it may pop back up again. The O.J. trial, for instance, never seems to go away. lol
“i agree. but my question is why? why place such a premium on something that rarely happens?”
I’d equate it to car insurance. Something rarely needed, but very important to have. It’s relational insurance, more or less.
But back to “why” it is so important to have, I’ll just quote Ludacris. “We want a lady in the street but a freak in the bed.” We want chameleons. We want someone who acts classy, mature, and decent in public, but freaky, wild, and
psychoticadventurous in private. We want someone who can go on a rant about why Drake’s eyebrows haunt their nightmares and transition to a conversation about the problems of the educational system with no problems. We want the best of both worlds, it’s just that we want Jay most of the time and Kells rarely.“We want the best of both worlds, it’s just that we want Jay most of the time and Kells rarely.”
Exactly
wow, b, you are so on point today. good job.
***I couldn’t get thru all these comments, so I’ll just leave mine right…HERE:
I enjoy being smart. Most enjoy being smart. Unless you’re an idiot, but there are plenty of smart idiots out there. It’s entirely possible to be smart, act smart, look smart, but have stupid things come out of your mouth, and that’s okay! It’s that kid in the movie Parenthood, the really smart one who had zero social skills. You need both, otherwise you just all around suck. That said, some of my closest friends are lawyers, doctors, execs, brokers and at the end of the day, we still gossip and talk about sex. A LOT. I don’t know who made the comment about more than one sex pot in a group of friends, but um…welcome to my life. We are all equal in most of the categories and love getting it in (albeit in a smart way). Of course one of us is the quieter, more reserved one, but that just means we have to pull her juicy details out. One is the loud, theatrical one, another is the sensible one…i dont think I have any quirky friends in my particular circle tho…*stops and realizes it might be me!* lol. But that’s real life. Being that tv isn’t realistic in a lot of ways, and if it is, it’s extremely heightened, they assume their audience is dumb, which if you think about it, most of the time, they are, relatively speaking. Most don’t watch tv to get the meaning of life. They watch because it’s a zone out type of pleasure. So, execs and writers make characters very clear, story lines very tangible and understandable (unless you’re watching Lost). That way, they can do the heavy lifting, while you concentrate on that bag of Doritos.
Anyway, I think people who sit around talking about topics that parade by electronically on CNN are lame-o’s trying to prove how smart they are or how many newspapers/books they read. I knew a guy who was flat out honest and said he used his intelligence to make others feel inferior to him. Not so much a superiority complex as an asshole complex. And that’s what you look like when you constantly try to outsmart people. Wit is cute, being arrogantly smart, not so much. But there’s nothing like being in a relationship where nothing is off limits, all topics are a go because your well matched both verbally/mentally, and physically. So in essence, you can slide up and down the pole while simultaneously, explaining the best tactic to plug the oil spill.
I talk to my SO about those subjects when we’re alone or with friends. My group of friends might be overly bougie though.
“I echo what most people have already been saying: people want their SO to have the ability to have intellectual conversations about Barack Obama’s achievements/mistakes. Just don’t kill my buzz with that noise.”
I don’t think I could have put it better myself…it’s not always about what you talk about on a consistent basis, just about what you CAN talk about if the conversation comes up…
X_____________________
Enthusiastically,
BlkBond.
That is all..
Some of us are too intellectual for our own good! Remove that pole from your a$$ and learn how to relax people.
I don’t think the 2 are mutually exclusive… at all.
It can so happen that one can genuinely enjoy “wait, wait, don’t tell me?”, “Says you” and “Marketplace”… and also have a removable pole in one’s bedroom… I’m just sayin’…
@Sula
What do you know about “Marketplace” and “wait wait don’t tell me”? I guess This right here is why we are friends. Do you listen to “This American Life”?
I try to catch This American Life as often as I can… but it airs on Sunday mornings down here, and I’m usually not in my car/listening to radio during that time…
And yes, I heart the fact that we can discuss pretty much anything!
@Sula, @Humble_One,
Do y’all listen to Fresh Air? I like NPR but those pledge drives make me want to kill.
@Wu Young Agent of M.E.
I listen to Fresh Air when I get a chance. Terry Gross gives good interviews.
“i guess this makes us all hypocrites.”
My dude thats what makes you an intelligent guy! Not a hypocrite, the ability to discuss those topics doesn’t mean you enjoy discussing those topics…. I mean Jennifer Hudson can sAAAAAng, but for she prefers to act. Bush can play golf, but he prefers to run countries into the ground. I can sleep, but I prefer to browse the internet doing absolutely nothing.
I’ma student and I do not want somebody that isn’t qualified or working towards being qualified with some sort of university degree… but I’m not about to spend the rest of my life discussing the aquatic patterns of flamingoes in northern ohio with my partner. I’m VERRRYY dedicated to my education and spend like half my life on campus, but I am notorious for never having a meaningful conversation. My conversations go from nothing, turn into nothing and end up with nothing. I am capable of seriousness (seriously) if the moment calls for it.. but the average moment does NOT call for it, so why bother?
Save the intelligent conversations for those who feel like they got something to prove. I can throw around the ole’ huffington post reference w. the best of them, but that doesn’t mean I actually WANT to. I’d much rather be having a conversation that goes nowhere but makes me laugh, then having a conversation that accomplishes nothing but swells my pretentious gland.
So I feel you on this one my brother… if you’re a hypocrite, i’m a hypocrite, and I don’t know how I feel about you calling me a hypocrite.
@ santa monica
. . . .very well said.
It is prolly the fact that a person “can” and not that they actually do speak of all the intellectualessness. Whie it is good to know that sometimes ones partner is aware of their eventful surroundings and can use replacement words for sad, mad and bad; a college degree isn’t a requirement FOR ME though I’m not knocking your preference. Their are very intelligent individuals that aren’t recipients of PhD/BA/MA degrees, sometimes smarter than those that actually have obtained such.
“Their are very intelligent individuals that aren’t recipients of PhD/BA/MA degrees, sometimes smarter than those that actually have obtained such.”
I couldn’t agree more.
There (sp) – LOL
Lol… you wrong for that
We knew it was coming, LOL
@ Yeah. . .So
santa monica
AND Cheekie
Ever noticed how in school when someone cracked a joke, it was never the joker that ended up fighting, it was the one that said “Oooooooooooh!”
( put ‘em up)
O_O… sure, just one moment *exits in a hurry* (lol)
For some reason, your evil grin avatar along with the spelling correction makes it better.
You know what, I couldn’t edit it so I had hoped we could just move on from here until others felt the need to express “THEIR” .01cents. I guess this wasn’t the best topic to make such an obvious grammatical error, LOL.
Yeah, you’re right! There are definitely individuals out there smarter then I’ll ever be with little to no college education. To me it’s more of a symbol of how much you appreciate traditional education. There are millionaires perfectly poised to take over their families companys w. no need for school but still go and work for degrees because they value education
@santa monica
….right right.
I agree there are various forms of intelligent folk w/ or w/out a degree, we all agree on that, but what stood out to me was that you said:
….I do not want somebody that isn’t qualified or working towards being qualified with some sort of university degree.
Nevermind, I just re-read your statement and that answers my question. You said: someone that “isn’t qualified.” Like, have it or not, you need to know that they actually are”able” to.
Gotcha.
. . . .went over my head.
“I can throw around the ole’ huffington post reference w. the best of them, but that doesn’t mean I actually WANT to.”
I have a co-worker who starts convos with “You know I was reading in the Huff-po today about…”
I strongly dislike him & all the “airs” he puts on.
@sasi, glad we agree!
@lovelyda, most pretentious thing in the world. it’s like im glad for you, really… but id rather talk about the onion.
“So I feel you on this one my brother… if you’re a hypocrite, i’m a hypocrite, and I don’t know how I feel about you calling me a hypocrite.”
you should feel good about it. i know i do
I don’t know how I feel about you telling me how to feel…. Do you think thats okay just cuz I’m a woman?
(files it away in the ‘quick notes to get famous by riding jock on the web)
I am notorious for never having a meaningful conversation. My conversations go from nothing, turn into nothing and end up with nothing
OOOO wi you just described me.
Hey soul sista!
“or a televisionwithoutpity message board”
AHAHAHAHA! I used to really love that place. Now, I’m kinda in and out.
Anyhow, you make a good point. But, I think such an emphasis is put on “able to hold a smart serious convo” over the more shallow topics because it’s easy for folks to talk about shallow topics. It’s difficult to find someone smart enough to thoroughly discuss deep topics. Plus, those who can discuss deep topics can most likely discuss shallow topics in a witty manner because they’re um…smart. But, of course that’s only if the deep-topic discusser isn’t a stiff prim and proper donkey with no sense of humor.
This is something along the lines of what I was getting at.
Did I miss something? What happened on televisionwithoutpity?
Nothing in particular, really. It was just a site that recapped TV shows in a sour witty way (they called it “snark”) and they message board for readers that had that same kinda style. I just had to laugh because of how small the world is…and how I one time wondered if any VSBs frequented that site. Now I know at least one did. And that made me laugh. Because I’m a fool.
Make that two! I love TWOP. I just didn’t see the original reference to it on here so I didn’t know what you were talking about. Between TWOP and VSB I’m surprised I haven’t been reprimanded for loss of productivity!
lol, I know right! When I was super active on TWOP, I worked at a non-profit (but part-time) and I was off-and-on the computer. But, when I WAS on the computer, please believe it wasn’t too productive. lol
Now that my entire job (well 92%) consists of being on the computer (AND the internet…so I can kinda lie that I’m “researching” if I get caught…lol), in terms of productivity? HA! But, I do ultimately get my work done, so…pow.
there was a time when TWOP might have been my favorite website. the recaps of the sopranos were some of the best writing ive ever seen online
“there was a time when TWOP might have been my favorite website.”
Same here. It was their Dawson’s Creek recaps that got me, though. Dayum, I was such a stan. (still kinda am)
@Cheekie – it was Friday Night Lights recaps that used to kill me on there b/c the actual plot for the 2nd season was so ridiculous that the writing just took it to a whole new level. straight hilariy.
@ATypicalLibrarian, Champie, Panda,
re: TWOP
Hmm. Small world, ya’ll. I mean, it ain’t surprising given how big TWOP is, but it’s just somethin’ I’ve always wondered, considering how the wit here sometimes mirrors the wit over there.
@Cheekie TWOP is massive and it kind of seems more so since they were taken over by Bravo. I actually don’t admit to people I actually know that I frequent the site because I don’t think they would get it. I’m also embarrassed to admit in real life that I got sucked in by the Gilmore Girls recaps while I was in Mexico. #theshame
Spare the snark spoil the networks!
“Plus, those who can discuss deep topics can most likely discuss shallow topics in a witty manner because they’re um…smart”
this is a good point. i just wish people would be honest with themselves and say “convo about the recession is great and all, but i really desire someone who can articulate an on-point analogy between tony soprano and rajon rondo”
lol, I guess…
on-point analogy between tony soprano and rajon rondo”
I really, really want to hear that analogy now.
@cheekie
Plus, those who can discuss deep topics can most likely discuss shallow topics in a witty manner because they’re um…smart.
i concur. it is the simple fact that, even when discussing the most mundane of entertainment news, my educated friends’ conversations aren’t limited to “i likeded that jawn.” this is the rationale that i give my middle school english students when they don’t understand why they need to know words like “convey” and “haphazardly.” i smile gleefully when they (correctly) use them in the hallways, even if it’s only to discuss the merits of nicky minaj.
“I concur. it is the simple fact that, even when discussing the most mundane of entertainment news, my educated friends’ conversations aren’t limited to “i likeded that jawn.” ”
Yeah, ya know, it’s is pretty chexy when a guy uses a million dollar word to give an opinion on somethin’ silly and stupid like Basketball Wives…and is completely natural in using it. lol
@Cheekie,
*waves* Hey, Cheeks.
@CBG,
Hey, hun! *waves back* How’s it goin’? Got some rest from all that travelin’?
@Cheekie,
Yeah, a little. I went in Houston before noon on Friday and my boss said I didn’t have to come in so I went home and took a nap and go drove up to Dallas for my twin niece and nephew’s high school graduation. They are going to my alma mater in the fall, so I am a proud uncle.
Aw, that is too cute! I know how you feel because that’ll be me next year. She graduates from H.S. next year. I’m so proud her, she’s such a little over-achiever.
Enjoy the ceremony and celebration. After that, get some rest!
Serious topics never come up because
who cares?nobody cares about that boring ishit’s not important. As you alluded to, it’s the ability here that really matters. I view it as a barometer of how well a person… does and thinks and approaches sh*t, for lack of a better term.I got a final in 15 hours, so I’ll leave it up to someone else who will articulate what I’m trying to say better than I can.
dang son!! good luck with that final.. i won’t judge you if you don’t get an “A”.. (yes i will)
i’m.just.being.honest.
lol, I can still get an A in the class without getting an A on the final #imjustthatnice
it would appear you ARE “just that nice”
lol!
“approaches sh*t, for lack of a better term”
*situations, obstacles, life, etc
@Yeah… So, I’m mad that you came up with better terms. lol
I thought “lack of a better term” bit was a cry for help *shrug* lol
It was, which is why I just stopped saying what I was gonna say.
See Cheeks… I’m not ALWAYS being a smart@ss. Well, actually this one was kinda the best of both worlds.
@P. you’re welcome. _O right back at you lol
Dang by the title I thought this was about the last season of the boondocks
But then again there are a lot of pretentious ninjas pretending its some deep philosophical commentary in the episodes
That only they get. Uh no its not but if it makes you feel better bout yo self do you
I would say Boondocks is atleast 50% parody/commentary tbh.
Some of the best jokes have been straight quotes from real life events from Dick Cheney, DMX to the teacher saying he said ninja not ninjer.
The problem with this season is that the source material for the show is way funnier than the show, the lack of relevance of the episodes because of the time between the parodied situations and the show airing, and the feeling that all the ending of the episodes feel anti-climatic and or rushed. The show would benefit with being 45 minutes long.
@Dash – basically what you’re saying is the Season 3 of The Boondocks is the cartoon adaptation of how Spike Lee ends every movie?
minus the extra time for the ending.
Every ending of BD this season feels like the ending of School Daze and Do The Right Thing.
You see, I have never even taken to the Boondocks show itself… I think the cartoon is/was WAY funnier than the show… Does that make me pretentious?
“But then again there are a lot of pretentious ninjas pretending its some deep philosophical commentary in the episodes”
Ya know, there IS a lot of this going on. Instead of explaining what it is that some people “just don’t get”, a lot of people are kinda teasing those who don’t get it and keeping it secret for some reason, which only makes me suspect that they don’t get it either. I mean, if you get it and I don’t what’s with the super secret club sh*t. Share the effing wealth. Yes, I’m a communist.
i find you funny, champ.. Berry funny…
i guess it IS a tad bit hypocritical.. i think it’s not the fact that “mr A” and “ms B” are ever gonna have a conversation about the lack of BP’s oversight.. it’s the fact that if they wanted to, they could have said conversation..
i think everyone seems to think that we’re all gonna be invited to those cocktail parties like in the movies.. and the guy’s boss and wife are standing there and he’s hoping to have someone on his arm that doesn’t say “i ride the steel beast” when the boss asks her what she does for a living..
or says “woulda please pass the jelly!”
i think for a man (more than a woman) it’s nice for him to have that option.. even though once they’re all around peers the conversation is gonna be more about fiddy cent and how A Keys’ baby is gonna look (whoo!) cuz we’re all around shooting the sh*t..
but let me say.. if there’s nothing that you can teach me (as a guy) or at least a way for you to keep my mind entertained, then there will be no further activity.. “abort will robinson, abort!” cuz for me, i’m a nerd and i need to be mind s*xed before any actual s*x goes on..
is it overrated, yeah.. but it is necessary? oh yeah.. cuz my family in jamaica don’t wanna hear about lindsey lohan.. they watch BBC and i’ll be d*mned if i’m bringing you round them and you got eveyone askin me “where did you find this cat?!”
but yeah, after jeopardy goes off we will probably be sitting watching ms peachez on youtube..
“ya hear me!”
“cuz for me, i’m a nerd and i need to be mind s*xed before any actual s*x goes on..”
This is true for me too and it should be true for everyone! My motto is “never sleep with someone you’d hate to have kids with” so if you’re fine-as-wine but can’t string together a cohesive sentence I’ll lust for you but you ain’t touching me. I can’t pass your cognitive delays onto my babies!
This right hurrr is the truth…
My motto is “never sleep with someone you’d hate to have kids with”
PREACH!!
“if you’re fine-as-wine but can’t string together a cohesive sentence I’ll lust for you but you ain’t touching me. I can’t pass your cognitive delays onto my babies!”
hee-larry-us! *high five* i feel the EXACT same way!
“if you’re fine-as-wine but can’t string together a cohesive sentence I’ll lust for you but you ain’t touching me. I can’t pass your cognitive delays onto my babies!”
100% co-sign. This is the main reason why the ability to have a “serious conversation” is and will remain on my list. Admittedly, I rarely have serious conversations myself. And a person who insists on having them at inappropriate times (no religion, politics, TET, or science while I’m drinking) will get as little love as the person who can’t have the discussion at the appropriate time.
@Nick_L_Odeon,
“cuz for me, i’m a nerd and i need to be mind s*xed before any actual s*x goes on..”
See, that right there lets me know I think so much like a woman. I was like that even when I was in college. The art of being mentally seduced by a woman has always been a major turn on for me. Get into my head, let me know what you are going to do, blindfold me. Stuff like that will make me go hard in the paint. #nowakaflacka
i’m in love with you for your “nowakaflocka”
and are you back in the state where you should be?
i don’t know if it means you think like woman.. or more like a person that just got sense..!! i don’t know what’s WRONG with people!
get that lotion i was telling you about! it’ll change your life! #liesitell.. but still, it’s good!
Yes, ma’am, I am back in the great state of Texas. I was just joking about the vaseline thing. I just thought the cherry vaseline was cool because my mom is country as she can be sometimes and she still uses vaseline. I used Cocoa/Mango butter. I like it because it doesn’t flake off when I am out in the sun.
Oh yeah, I got a $20 coupon from Best Buy from their Rewards Program and I took your advice and bought the God of War Collection for $10, brand spanking new. I have to say I don’t know what was wrong with me for not playing these games when they came out on PS2. They kick @$$. Can’t wait to play through them and get God of War 3. Does that make me cool again?
YO!!!!!!! my eyes just BUGGED OUT!!!! when i read that you got God of War…
you couldn’t be any cooler if i was playing it with ya.. (in the background, of course..)
let me know what you think about the storyline!!! and the mythology in it, of course!!!!!!!
you won’t be disappointed.. keep me posted… cuz now that i know you got it, i’m NOT gonna get off your back about it..
go to my blog, and check the contacting Nick page.. and keep in touch..
#POINTS… GLASSES!!!
#seewhatididthere…
and don’t call yo mama country for still using vaseline.. cuz i still use it.. and me and the vaseline have a “fun and sexy time” (10 points if you know the reference..)
me and the sun have a hate affair going on.. matter of fact, i tried something different yesterday.. and now i’m reacting to it (sun poisoning..) so i gotta go back to what works..
cuz the lips ain’t cute when they swell (pause)
#imfilthy
@Nick_L_Odeon,
I am looking forward to the story and I will keep you posted since you are going to hound me about playing it. I beat the Hydra last night and played the “fun minigame” at the beginning of the next stage. lol
The “fun and sexy time” is a Stewie reference, I think.
I hope your skin feels better. When I got out of high school, I had a job in the summer working outside and my skin would flake up when I would swear because I had regular lotion on my arms. I bought some cocoa butter and it was a lot better for my skin. A few years later, they made cocoa/mango butter and the rest is history.
Oh yeah, and this: “cuz the lips ain’t cute when they swell (pause) #imfilthy”
That could have been a crazy tangent go off of right there. lol
Nope.. the “fun and sexy time” is a George Michael reference from Arrested Development.. (please don’t break my heart and tell me you never watched it..)
the hydra was a mean one.. but wait til you see how the stories between all of them connect! it’s greatness i tell ya, GREATNESS!!!
there was just a number of times where i’d be staring at the screen and all i could say was “YOOO!!”
wait til you get to the puzzles.. although you’re a smart cookie, so i don’t think you’ll have much problems with them.. but let’s just say that a manual needed to be purchased for the third installment..
and please tell me you’re playing this on a tv that’s worthy of it?! i couldn’t even play it at home, (most of the time) because my tv doesn’t even have a remote, much less HD..
with my skin issues, i live in the wrong state for real.. (that’s not sexxy where i come from) and my lips swelling is a byproduct of my reaction to the sun.. some say it’s cute, but it’s mostly uncomfortable.. and yes, i realize what kind of tangent could’ve been had.. i got some leftover “feelin froggy” coursing through my veins today left over from last night..
umm.. and don’t think i didn’t notice you said “the great state of texas..” umm *checks head for fever* i went there twice and maybe it was just where i went.. but i DID NOT have a great time.. and almost caught heatstroke rollerblading beside the brown water.. (eww)
@Nick_L_Odeon,
You know what? I forgot George Michael used to say that. I really need to get that show on DVD. I really, really loved that show.
I do like how God of War is so epic in every aspect. I read about the entire opening sequence in God of War III and just how much is going on and Kratos is so small yet still kicking @$$ made me really want to play it. I love solving the puzzles in action/adventure games. Uncharted and Uncharted 2 renewed my love for action/adventure games, oh and GTAIV, too. Oh, and sweetheart, I would never have thought about getting a PS3 if an HDTV was not involved. Surround sound, the whole nine. I tell my boys that if you have an HDTV, PS3 is the way to go. I am thinking about switching out the hard drive for a bigger one before the summer is up.
Oh yeah, any complaints you have about my state is always met with understanding. We got a different kind of heat here and Dallas and Houston are like night and day weather wise. I hope next time you come you have a better time, especially if you don’t come from May-August. Living in Houston is like living in a sauna. The brown water, well, I can’t argue with you on that, especially if you saw the Trinity River. People wonder why I only swim in pools now as an adult.
i own ALL of arrested development.. and every now and then i’ll pull out the chicken dance..
and depending on how i’m feeling, that determines whose version of the chicken dance they get.. although it’s usually Gob’s version that i’ll settle on… the daughter’s version is classic too.. as i can get my legs that high and really do it justice..
there’s supposedly a movie in the works.. but i don’t get geeked up about it until i see it.. *crosses fingers,toes, and legs..*
i’m upset (read: jealous) that your system is just that fantastic.. between that, and the heat, i’m not sure i’d ever come out of your house.. #seewhatididthere..
and umm, the water in your state is NOT what’s hot.. i’m from jamaica (read: clear,sexy water) and i live in florida.. (read: clear water) so i just didn’t know how to behave when i saw what your people call beaches.. and yeah, when i went it was in the summer.. #nobueno
AND i drove.. WITH my mother!?!?! #nobuenoallaround
uncharted?? what kind of game is that.. i like action/adventure games.. so if it’s worthy, i’ll go check it out.. i like first person shooters (Halo-style) but i’m sorry.. i can’t do grand theft auto.. i need different levels and objectives to change.. i also don’t like when i’m being chased (or hunted) but that has more to do with my fears than the actual game.. lol…
@Nick_L_Odeon,
Haha. I got you now. You talk about me and God of War but you don’t know about Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune or Uncharted 2: Among Thieves. It’s about a guy named Nate Drake, who is supposed to a descendant of Sir Francis Drake, and he is a “treasure hunter”. That series is the bomb. You don’t know what you are missing
Sometimes I don’t know why I come out of the house either. Oh, that’s right. I have a job and have to work to pay bills. Darn it. (Oh yeah, I saw what you did there)
Since you are from Jamaica and live in Florida, you are definitely spoiled when it comes to water, but when your economy is based off of oil, gas, cows and the space program, brown water is to almost be expected. I went to college with a lot of people from Jamaica and the Bahamas, had a couple of mentors from the islands, but they love it here for some reason.
@ComicBookGuy & Nick_L_Odeon
Is the Arrested Development movie still coming out?
We need to get a VSB/VSS PS3 friends list.
until fairly recently.. i was playing Sly Cooper on ps2 (great) and then God of War happened upon me. and i was never the same..
but when it comes to me and video games..i like the old stuff.. i have nintendo on my computer (even though it can hardly run it) and go back and forth between SMB1 and 3.. and Mortal Kombat.. and let’s not forget Donkey Kong Country..
i’m not gonna lie, the premise of Uncharted sounds FABULOUS!! i will have to go check that out.. (can’t we arrange a trade!?) considering the person whose ps3 i had access to and i aren’t seeing much of each other these days.. i’ll have to wait until you upgrade your system and let me get your old one for a GREAT PRICE.. (like, free) #notsosubtlenick
i don’t work, so if the sun is out.. then i’m not leaving the house.. i dont’ even open the blinds.. but then again, i’ve been called a vampire for the hours i keep.. so maybe it’s true.. nuffsaid..
i won’t say too much more about your state.. cuz that would just be mean.. but i’m glad you can understand where i’m coming from.. maybe next time i go, i’ll have a better time.. my best friend lives in austin but he’s married so that’s not gonna happen.. but maybe, just maybe there’ll be a nice tour guide that can take me around.. #seewhatididthere.. OOH! maybe when i come to pick up that old system..!
ok.. let me stop.. cuz there’s several people that wanna shank me right now.. lol..
i won’t ride you too tough about God of War.. cuz i’d hate for someone to be up under me like that (without invitation) but i DO like hearing first time reactions to it.. (i prefer seeing them, but you get what i mean) because seeing someone else’s reaction to it is like playing the game all over again… i hope it doesn’t let you down..
@Nick_L_Odeon,
Sorry for interrupting y’all’s conversation but this –>i didn’t notice you said “the great state of texas..” umm *checks head for fever* i went there twice and maybe it was just where i went.. but i DID NOT have a great time.. makes me ask WHERE did you go?
Everybody who visits me in Houston… wants to move down here… even the pretentious ones. The H is a blast… #ionknowaboutDallastho.
@Humble_one… i heard that the movie was still coming out.. but i don’t hold my breath anymore.. i can’t afford to get my feelings hurt if they report that it’s fallen through again..
i wouldn’t mind a ps3 group.. but everytime i tell someone to keep in contact with me (off thread) they act like i just spoke to them in swahili.. (AND said something about their momma..) so i give up..
@Sula..
i went to Galveston (pre-hurricane..) and almost died.. Moody gardens was alright.. and so was the creepy house that i visited, but other than that, there was nothin doin..
like i told CBG, if i had a tour guide, it might’ve been different.. but DANG! when “going out” involved the Super Wal-mart that was next door to my condo.. i’d rather stay home.. AND on my flgiht back, my plane lost power.. IN THE SKY!! i don’t have good memories of texas.. my friend says that i need a good memory to negate the other one..
@Nick_L_Odeon
I’ll put you on my friends list just tell me your network name
@Sula,
Everyone loves to pick on my city. I just tell people home is home, and Dallas will always be home.
@Nick_L_Odeon,
First, that entire comment was hilarious. Seriously, you are funny. Second, when I say upgrade, I mean just change out the hard drive, not the whole system, so sorry. The reason why I love the PS3 is because of all of the old games you save on your hard drive. I got Final Fight, Super Puzzle Fighter, Tekken 5, Mortal Kombat II, the remake of Bionic Commando and few others. I love the Playstation store. I kinda relive my childhood in there. I feel you on the vampire thing. I am a night person and college only made it worse. Don’t worry about hurting my feelings talking about Texas. I travel around this country and love the different places I got, but home is home. I know I won’t be disappointed with God of War. Usually the really, really good games out there don’t disappoint, like Modern Warfare 2, which, much like all other FPS, I suck at.
see.. you got all tech-y on me.. i usually just tell people to click on my name.. and on my blog it says “contacting nick”.. and because i’m not above lookin silly.. when you asked for my network.. was that the fancy way of asking my name on aim,gmail,hotmail.. etc??
for future reference..
and also because “knowledge is power”..
lol
@Nick_L_Odeon,
Lol. He means your screen name when you play online on PS3.
@Humble_One,
Mine is Gundam1906. Hit me up.
@Humble_One.. i didn’t mention that the above comment was for you… so “that one’s for you..” *winks and points finger from onstage..)
@CBG..
you know what.. there’s only so many times that you can break my heart and still expect me to be cool with you homeboy! fine, FINE just upgrade the hard drive..
you my friend, SUCK! (literally and figuratively..)
i hear you on the mortal kombat II.. but my favorite one was the trilogy. i think it was because of the massive amount of characters.. ALTHOUGH i think that they could’ve been a little bit more creative with the characters.. and not just had 17 different people in the sub-zero outfit with different colors.. “ermac, cyrax, scorpion, reptile, sub zero.. and noob saibot(?) etc”
oh.. and killer instinct and primal rage did it for me too..
#combobreaker!
and i SUCK at FPS.. i tell everyone that my aim STINKS!! not only that, but it usually takes me a minute to figure out that the controller is inverted.. and this usually happens after i’ve died 17 times, and gotten frustrated..
don’t pick me for no “capture the flag” minigames.. cuz you’ll end up with your feelings hurt.. and not want to talk to me for the rest of the day
#itsthatserious..
i understand about Dallas being home to you.. i’ve moved all around south florida.. and for me Jamaican holds the best times, and the best memories.. and nothing can sully them in my mind.. (even with the foolish way that my people are actin down there.. *throwsdownpassport*)
but seriously though.. you need to hop on it and plan a trip someplace where you can see the ocean floor.. cuz pool water ain’t good for people.. no wonder your skin is always ashy!! #chemicalsnobueno.. honestly, i don’t trust anything that’s made in a lab..
i’m.just.bein.honest….
like i happened to mention.. me and the person whose ps3 i was accessing ain’t seeing much of each other nowadays..
thus, i’m rendered ps3-less.. which SUCKS because i would’ve LOVED to play online.. but then again, ya’ll would’ve just been clowning me..
nolie..
*hangs head in shame, while feeling lame…*
OOHH, i just saw that rhymed!!
Girl, you really killing me. You are hilarious. I have been to places with clearer water than what is in Galveston Bay, like Florida and the Delaware coast, which is actually pretty nice. I just worry about jellyfish when I go into the Gulf, because the idea of some taking a leak on me to save me from jellyfish poison is not the business. lol Oh yeah, I get my butt kicked in anything I play online, Street Fighter, Tekken, Uncharted, Modern Warfare. I dare not play Madden online. My heart couldn’t take it.
it all depends on who is peeing on you though.. because if it was selita ebanks.. that might be a different story..
true story.. me and my ex (boyfriend at the time) went to the beach.. and i saw jellyfish floating around us EVERYWHERE!! i got out, and asked the lifeguard (safety first) what was up and he’s sitting in his sassy-tower and asking what color they are.. “because if it’s like a blue irridescent then they’re not venomous” WTF?!?! how bout, i don’t want ANYTHING of a venomous nature swimming anywhere near me..
not only that, but my boyfriend proceeds to pick up jellyfish off the shore and throw them at me..
#fail..
we broke up shortly thereafter..
and you need some kind of tutorial with the games you play online.. on behalf of players everywhere, i’m sad for you..
i would ride you harder about it but you wear glasses and that has so many positive points in your column… it would take a #fail of epic proportions to bring you into the negative side of the point system…
MUAH!! consider it a festivus gift.. (100 points for the reference..)
OHHH!!!!!!
i was in the shower and it fianlly dawned on me…
“they wanted to play online..”
i promise, i’m not daft.. it just took me a minute…
don’t judge me.. i was hungry, so there was no smarts going to the brain..
“i think everyone seems to think that we’re all gonna be invited to those cocktail parties like in the movies.. and the guy’s boss and wife are standing there and he’s hoping to have someone on his arm that doesn’t say “i ride the steel beast” when the boss asks her what she does for a living”
lol, this is one of those hypothetical anecdotes that gets repeated alot, but seems to never actually happen.
I’m into doers, not talkers — regardless of life station. Don’t whine to me about the oil spill if you’re not boycottin’ gas (and other petroleum-based products), and don’t whine about the white supremacist power structure if you “fix your face” to impress whites (and/or their represenatives).
Don’t get me wrong, I think folks should be as well informed as possible; but what good does all that knowin’ do if it doesn’t inspire folks to act?
If you’re about motion, we can hang. If not, gimme 50 feet.
I like tha way you thank..some things are outta your control, but if it is don’t talk about it, be about it.
Agreed.
You’re on point with this. I actually think the type of ppl who talks a great deal and think they know how to solve every problem but doesn’t do sh*t about it are the true hypocrites.
I wouldn’t call them hypocrites. I imagine they feel powerless, and sometimes, don’t realize how powerless they imagine themselves to be (and I guess I know this personality all too well because I used to embody it).
The hypocrisy comes in when our deeds contradict our words.
I’m dating an iBanker largely because he’s an iBanker.
I do pick his brain wrt my option trades.
When I dated a dr, I exploited him for a ‘script (or two). *shrug*
I really don’t like it when men have no appreciation for substantive books and movies — or when they can’t refuse to explore the complexity of scientific or social issues.
If men just want to watch action adventure movies or reduce cultural differences to “Americans rule, and everyone else can go to hell,” then the relationship is DOOMED.
OTOH, I have no patience for religious yip-yap, so if a dude wants to debate doctrine for hours, then I’ll lapse into a drooling coma.
Champ, your groups were too diverse.
If it had been all attorneys & law students, they would have kvetched about the bar exam & CLE courses @ some point. Guaranteed.
But you’re more cultured than this post states outright. No one in either group brought a gun, a cousin-wife from the hill country, or a 40 oz bottle of Schlitz.
cousin -wife just about killed me. lmbo.
‘No one in either group brought a gun, a cousin-wife from the hill country, or a 40 oz bottle of Schlitz.’
lol, you can’t be too cultured if a topic of serious conversation is grilled chitlins
LOL @ granny panties and soulful white men
i told yall i cant be givin mediocre lookin white boys my good vicky draws. no matter how seductively soothing the voice. gotta be on ur robin thicke face game to upgrade from the grannys.
anyway… some topics we discussed that u failed to mention:
miss patterson’s new man. male cheerleaders. gary cole man and dirty draw’rs. so-called homosexual acts in hetero rel’ships. homeless/dental-plan-less veterans. how to blacken fish. sybians.
“so-called homosexual acts in hetero rel’ships”
I’m intrigued….
“so-called homosexual acts in hetero rel’ships”
I’m intrigued…”
it was basically a conversation about whether it was “gay” for a man to be aroused by a woman doing a “gay thing” to him (ie: finger in the poophole, etc).
hahahaha! I just remembered that one of the townspeople got killed for having dirty draw’rs. hi-lar-i-ous. i love us.
Don’t forget Ninjas stealing knives, “Mama, she smashed the homies” and “Shbonds, James Shbonds”
I would say the most serious topic of the night is whether gay people are gay by nature or nurture.
“I will be back.”
“I will be back.”
this was gay
lmao @ “shhbonds. james shhbonds”
good memory roomie!
Guess what I’m most intrigued by? That’s right, Miss Patterson’s new man! I remember reading about how you hooked her up, Gemmie. How’s everything goin’?!
Delonte James *dead* I’m curious to know where that convo ended!
welcome and sh*t. and that convo ended when the genital daredevil came on screen
“Delonte James” *dead* I’m curious to know where that convo ended!
clearly i love to talk about foolishness and engage in mindless chatter about random musings. but if i so choose to take a moment to be serious, concerned or even satirical about national/world affairs, i absolutely NEED to have some one who is (a) willing to entertain the convo and (b) able to keep up and provide insightful, knowledgeable commentary.
i made a joke about the arizona immigration law and the guy i was talkin to didnt get my joke at all. why? because he had no idea what was going on with az. and i just prefer not to be bothered with ppl who dont care to know whats going on in the world so they can add something to it besides waste.
@Gem of the Ocean
Light bulb moment:
I could care less if you aren’t savvy enough to spit wise every detail about BP & how kids of lesbians have fewer behavior problems. However, if I wittingly reference oil spills while frying chicken & you’re giving me the gas face…then I can’t mess with you & you ain’t getting none of my chicken!
“I can’t mess with you & you ain’t getting none of my chicken!”
this was actually the original title of “diary of an angry black woman”
Please refrain from typing. Thanks.
bwahaha!
You captured it nicely….not all half-ass like the lower marine riser package…
I thinks it all comes down to balance. I like the fact that my friends can all have talk about wordly issues, while still holding an opinion on where Lebron should end up. (I got NJ)
And I don’t know if a top 5 list can be made of NBA moms, but if there is Stef Curry’s mom gotta top that list!
@Kirk Lazarus,
Stef’s mom is getting done.
“And I don’t know if a top 5 list can be made of NBA moms, but if there is Stef Curry’s mom gotta top that list!”
yea. she’s not even on the list because it wouldnt be fair to the other moms
“I like the fact that my friends can all have talk about wordly issues, while still holding an opinion on where Lebron should end up. (I got NJ)”
i think chicago has the edge, just because of their dynasty potential
@Champ
As a Pistons fan I hope he doesn’t go to Chicago. Do you think Reisendorf and Krause cheap arses are going to pay for him? It’s hard for me to see it. At the same time they did give Ben Wallace all that money.
Yeah, errbody is talmbout how he’s coming here. Haven’t heard about Mayor Daley offering him free lap dances or nuffin’ tho…
Wait, that didn’t sound right. I meant, offering him passes to go to a club where they give you free lap dances. There. Though, I kinda like the first one because our Mayor would do anything for more city publicity (read: dolla dolla bills ya’ll).
yea I just can’t see him changing the pressure from winning one championship, to the pressure of having to win 6. I think the bulls have the best team out of the lot, but i just don’t see Lebron changing his situation to take on more pressure to win.
But if they do get Phil as a coach (like the rumor mill has been saying)… then it could be a reeeeally interesting NBA….
Sometimes we just like to do hoodrat stuff with our friends
-Boondocks and Latarian Milton reference
^I’m kidding! LOL! I agree that most when relaxing and hanging with their friends don’t want to have a serious conversation. We get enough seriousness in day to day life, so we just wanna’ relax and chill. No harm in that. Sometimes the seriousness still comes up in many ways and you end up with a good convo balance anyway. This is especially for those who are already putting their views into action. Plus, some folks might be friends because they share similar views on issues.
^Okay, the situation with that young man is really sad, but the reference popped in my head. Kidding aside, I hope that young man gets the guidance he needs.
@legitimate_soul,
You like to smoke with cigarettes?
LOL! No, I don’t smoke. However, I can not knock the young man for making the distinction. He smokes with cigarettes, not with marijuana. Him smoking is wrong either way, but that little 7/8 year old has a way with words. It’s disturbing and on point at the same time as V Renee so aptly put.
“Sometimes we just like to do hoodrat stuff with our friends
-Boondocks and Latarian Milton reference”
I read this early this morning and laughed my azz off. I will forever ? Latarian Milton for that quote. It was so horrid yet, profund. And clearly described the things that I myself like to do. If I ever met him, I would buy him a
drankquarter water.^I could hug you for laughing! I’m so glad you got my reference. Some probably don’t know the young man in the news that the most recent Boondocks episode was based on. Also, so glad you know I wasn’t trying to be an insensitive jerk regarding the misguided young man.
Man, they did a job on OctoKate’s weave, I mean “extensions” and those kids sure have grown!
Even though Vanessa Davis got the water thrown on her, she was still BOSS for saying, “You’re not even a wife!!” to Evelyn. Check. Mate.
I think I have a crush on Big Baby, and Doc Rivers was looking like he had a jersey on under that suit and was coming in!!
My friends and I have mo’ degrees than a thermometer, but this is the sh!t we talk about.. Along with Brandy’s faux babyhairline/eyebrow ratio..
Along with Brandy’s faux babyhairline/eyebrow ratio
Brandy’s hairline/eyebrow makes me sad….
“Even though Vanessa Davis got the water thrown on her, she was still BOSS for saying, “You’re not even a wife!!” to Evelyn. Check. Mate.”
LOL
“Even though Vanessa Davis got the water thrown on her, she was still BOSS for saying, “You’re not even a wife!!” to Evelyn. Check. Mate. ”
I agree! I was waiting on SOMEone on the show to voice viewers’ opinions. And you can tell it hit a nerve because that was just when Evelyn snapped. She had no good comeback to that.
I was disappointed in Royce though for not saying “Um, you’re pretty much a baby mama being strung along with a ring” when Gloria and her holier-than-thou self said she wouldn’t ever be a wife with a ring. Because well, she ain’t a wife yet either. lol
It’s true that VSB’s & VSS’s don’t always have the “serious” conversations but we can if need be. It’s just another thing in our magical bag of Very Smart tricks.
I want to be able to take my boothang to a faculty party and not find him hiding behind the hibiscus b/c a professor tried to talk to him about the impact Obama’s election and all he could say was “Yeah, it was about time we had a brotha in office!” I need him to be able to go deep even if he is just bullsh!tting until he can excuse himself.
Also, these “serious” issues are the new “how about this weather we’re having?” topics. If we find that no one in the group can relate on some normal stuff like white people being crazy (which I LMAO’d at on both lists) then we can always to default to something “serious” like the oil spill or something.
Good post, Champ!
“I want to be able to take my boothang to a faculty party and not find him hiding behind the hibiscus b/c a professor tried to talk to him about the impact Obama’s election and all he could say was “Yeah, it was about time we had a brotha in office!” I need him to be able to go deep even if he is just bullsh!tting until he can excuse himself”
lol, i think the ability to bullsh*t might be the most important quality any mate can have
“lol, i think the ability to bullsh*t might be the most important quality any mate can have’
A-ha! Moment.
“It’s just another thing in our magical bag of Very Smart tricks.”
I want a VSB tote bag that says “Magical bag of Very Smart Tricks” on it now. VSB store? lol
I tend to not have “deep” conversations anymore because I generally leave the convos unimpressed with the other participant’s ability to articulate their views. I always feel like I just listened to a Nas, Dead Prez, or Talib Kweli album. Which is not a good thing because I do not think their music has any real depth, but is supposed to; therefore listening to them grates on my nerves. I also do not discuss hip hop, cheating in baseball, Barack Obama, LeBron Jame’s free agency, or PBF-PacMan negotiations/double standards.
@Dash – I tend to not have “deep” conversations anymore because I generally leave the convos unimpressed with the other participant’s ability to articulate their views. I always feel like I just listened to a Nas, Dead Prez, or Talib Kweli album. Which is not a good thing because I do not think their music has any real depth, but is supposed to;
LMAO. i think you just killed hip-hop.
Now that I have killed Hip Hop, I will move on to destroy the remnants of Neo Soul.
I will move on to destroy the remnants of Neo Soul.
Then we can talk in all liberty about Folk music of the south east asian peninsula. (is it even a peninsula?)
I’m good friends w/ a few teachers who are also mothers. I’m not a teacher, I’m not a mother, but I’m frequently forced to listen to long conversations about education. To be honest, I’d rather not (!!) but I’m odd that way…
lol, you know, i will say that people in education usually spend roughly 75 percent of their time talking about kids in some manner. this is one of the reasons why the teachers need the summer vacation more than the students do
This is very true Champ. Vacations are the BEST!!! This message needs to be sent to year around schools.
When I find myself always talking about my “kids” I instantly change the subject. The thing is I am passionate about what I do so it will show up in my day to day life as well.
Agreed – teachers need summer vaca, a drank & some new subjects!!
LOL @ Cali. Yes, happy hour is very popular where I work. The thing is I LOVE what I do and that is rare. It’s natural to talk about what you LOVE! I understand why us teachers do that. I also know it can be a turn off. You may want to tell your friends too because they may not realize it.
Ooh, I could never tell them! I think they’d think I was just being selfish. I suffer through it, it’s actually interesting to me for the first 15 minutes or so but after 40 minutes I’m beyond DONE, lol. I just look for opportunities to steer the conversation another way… or stay in my plate (sigh)
I do have serious conversations with my boyfriend (we are pretentious poets), but usually wedged between a conversation about hosh*t, Twitter, collard greens, and yep, that white people are crazy…..
@naturallyalise – do you all use words like “reality” and “fallacy” and “fallacy of reality” a lot? i got this impression that “fallacy of reality” is a pretentious poet staple term that is used at least 3 times a day. lol.
Point blank, unless there is money or position involved, I get bored easily. I am a shameless pretentious social climber and my college friends are too. My friends from the old neighborhood, they could care less about civil war in Darfur. Our last conversation had something to do with how to eat a cool cup (frozen Kool-Aid in a styrofoam cup) properly (you turn it upside down in the cup).
Going back to my “HATERATION” list on Panama’s post:
1) I hate people who feel the need to talk all the damned time. Shut the F@CK up already!
It’s like the guy who always has too talk about how good he is in bed. If you were REALLY King Ding-A-Ling, your performance would speak for itself. I’m just saying.
“Point blank, unless there is money or position involved, I get bored easily”
***filed under: “things said on vsb that could have also been said by kat stacks”***
***filed under: “things said on vsb that could have also been said by kat stacks”***
Great, now it goes down in infamy.
[insert “Game Over” sound byte from PacMan”
Just for that, Champ…..i’m gon itroduce you to what we college educated “hypocrites” from the Caribbean namely Trinidad say for
______________________________
we call it *ded* , the plural being *dedera*
According to my AKA aunts. Cool Cups are not to be flipped. It is bad manners. You are also to only eat them with a desert spoon.
“According to my AKA aunts. Cool Cups are not to be flipped. It is bad manners. You are also to only eat them with a desert spoon.”
And yet they forgot to lift their pinkies! Smh, first the Fat Boys break up now this.
This conversation got interesting to me @ “cool cups”. But I’m wasting my good ole edjumacation.
Once in a while I dont mind meeting up with friends and doing the serious conversations for but a minute or two. See, we spend all week being serious at work the last thing either of us want is doing it again unless those debates that are more of a joke than anything. However I think its the potentiality of a SO to hold a serious convo intellectually without embarrasing themselves to you or your/his family or friends that is important even tho most of the time you talk about his/your friends, relatives, sex, children, entertainment, football, rugby…e.tc!
see, i think its possible to not embarrass yourself if you don’t know anything about the topic.
Maybe by shutting up, lol!
champ,
hands down this post is the business. air out the black bourgeoise’s dirty laundry. yes, it is all about the **capability to have the intellectual conversation as opposed to having it for the sake of having it. and i would argue that 95% of the time while partaking in these conversations, youre simultaneously patting yourself on the back for your perceived brilliance and knowledge and not so much for what is being said. often times, after the conversation has ceased there is a mutual and subtle yet silent confirmation that there is a mutual/shared intellectual level between the engagers. they then walk away proud, feeling accomplished, like their thousands have paid off, knowing good and darn well, it was all pretentious bullshit and fluff.
be sexy with your degree, but put it on the backburner, show that through your lifestyle and actions. instead, hit me up with some conversation related to “family business: brandy & ray j” “tiny & toya” “the real mccoy” yea i said it!!
and…
‘and i would argue that 95% of the time while partaking in these conversations, youre simultaneously patting yourself on the back for your perceived brilliance and knowledge and not so much for what is being said.’
interesting observation and sh*t
champ,
hands down this post is the business.
air out the black bourgeoise’s dirty laundry. yes, it is all about the **capability to have the intellectual conversation as opposed to having it to fully engage yourself. i would argue that 95% of the time while these conversations occur, the individuals are simultaneously patting themselves on their backs, gloating in their perceived brilliance and not so much for what is actually being said. often times, after these conversations cease there is a mutual yet subtle confirmation that their intellectual level is shared. this then leads to them walking away feeling proud, accomplished, like their thousands toward their degrees have paid off, knowing good and darn well, it was all pretentious bullshit.
be sexy with your degree, but put it on the backburner when necessary through showing it through your lifestyle and actions. hit me up with some conversation related to “family business: brandy & ray j” “tiny & toya” “the real mccoy” yea i said it!!
and…
Just goes to show that most of time, people just really ain’t talking bout isht.
*nodding head* Yep.
I believe a great percentage of people’s conversations are just them wanting to hear themselves talk and add their two cents on EVERYTHING or it’s “forced” conversation where we just feel like we SHOULD be talking about something.
I guess this is why I consider myself ‘semi-social’ ’cause more often than not, I don’t like to be involved in many bullshyt conversations.
I’ll listen though if it has some entertainment value.
“I guess this is why I consider myself ’semi-social’ ’cause more often than not, I don’t like to be involved in many bullshyt conversations.”
I concur.
….reason number 2,387 why I rock with you. BURR!!
Bond.
@blkbond
something else for you to read while you’re crafting your nba rebuttal.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=klosterman/071026
Aye!!!!!
“Just goes to show that most of time, people just really ain’t talking bout isht.”
Hellz Yeah!!! I’ve been saying that for years. People talk just to hear themselves talk. And I let them, because it can be amusing at times.
Yep…parties are definitely the worst sometimes because of this alone.
Shole ain’t.
I love to argue on any topic just for the sake of it. I like to be heard and I like to listen to other people whether their opinions are ‘informed’ or ‘uninformed’.
I have dumped friends because of their lack of honesty and pretentiousness because in any conversation I want to hear your truth not some crap you heard or read. There is nothing wrong with not knowing or being wrong at least around people I consider my friends, I should at least be able to ask for as much info as possible or to say I don’t know or I don’t care and it is still good.
I change my opinion as often as I change my hairstyles, bi-monthly. My SO and I do not agree on many topics but like the champ stated it really does not matter. He makes me laugh a lot and there is no baby-mama-drama, so we are good.
BTW, I am gregarious so often I talk because I can about anything to anyone.
welcome and sh*t (i think)
I have dumped friends because of their lack of honesty and pretentiousness because in any conversation I want to hear your truth not some crap you heard or read. There is nothing wrong with not knowing or being wrong at least around people I consider my friends, I should at least be able to ask for as much info as possible or to say I don’t know or I don’t care and it is still good.
This!
I’d have to agree wholeheartedly with this post.
I recently went on two datees with two very well educated black men:
black man #1: topics of the evening included how our political system is broken, the irrelevance of voting, the entitlement attitude of educated black people, and the migration statistics of the DC population.
black man #2: topics of the evening included how it’s cheaper to pack alcohol in your suitcase instead of buying it at your destination when going on vacation, how to pack said alcohol correctly so it doesn’t break and soil all your clothing, the disadvantages of wearing hair weaves, and why I’m two shades away from being considered dark-skinned.
As you might have guessed, I never went out on a second date with black man #1 and am still dating black man #2. It truly is more about the ability to have a serious conversation than actually having it.
oh gawd i would have died on a date discussing all of that with that first dude. i hate when men try to over-impress me with too much of their resume on a first date. like, relaaaax homie, balance is key. a sprinkle of political isht and a sprinkle of ignance is more than enough to show you have the intelligence to hang.
i went on a date once where dude literally described every aspect of his position and title and thus the duties of said ‘respected’ position. all before the main course was brought out! booooooo.
“i went on a date once where dude literally described every aspect of his position and title and thus the duties of said ‘respected’ position. all before the main course was brought out! booooooo.”
I would have excused myself to a cab!
I would’ve picked Guy #2 as well. I went on a similar Guy #1 date where this dude only talked about how much he hated his job, religion, his job, the existence of God. I don’t know if he was finding himself or something but it was a complete snooze-fest. Don’t get me wrong, I’m an artist and I love having philosophical conversations. I have deep thoughts but I don’t like having deep convos all the damn time. Every time I’d try to change the topic and ask questions about his culture, his passion, who he be, he would answer vaguely and go back to talking about religion and his job…
“topics of the evening included how it’s cheaper to pack alcohol in your suitcase instead of buying it at your destination when going on vacation, how to pack said alcohol correctly so it doesn’t break and soil all your clothing, ”
He’s a keeper based on the above info alone.
I am willing to bet it has more to do with the fact that you liked guy#2 more than guy#1…
lol, Good point Sula. Kinda in the same vein as Champster’s (great) theory on how it doesn’t matter how soon you bed a dude because if it’s a problem to him, that means he wasn’t that into you in the first place.
I agree that the ability to have a “serious” conversation is more important than having them. The ability to have a “serious” conversation is VERY important to me. I was in a LTR with a woman that could not hold one these conversations and it killed me. She was a teacher and asked me “Why do kids need to learn who George Washington and Thomas Jefferson is? How does knowing these men help a kid from the hood?”. I was dumbfounded and speechless at this question. I will never get involved with a woman long term like that again. When you are not only ignorant but happily ignorant of what is happening around you I can’t deal with it. I don’t need to talk or desire to talk about revolution or politics in every conversation. I can be silly at times so that wouldn’t work for me. The majority of my friends are not informed enough to have the conversation Champ was having with his friends. I’m still friends with them because we vibe in other areas. That being said if you want to be taken serious you should be able to discuss these things with some knowledge and not sound dumb when you talk.
“She was a teacher and asked me “Why do kids need to learn who George Washington and Thomas Jefferson is? How does knowing these men help a kid from the hood?””
I actually kind of feel her though. What purpose does knowing this information actually serve? They can become a Jeopardy contestant? History sh*t that I learned in elementary/jr. high, I did NOT remember and had to relearn in later years. And that was mainly for sh*ts and giggles.
i’m so mad at your ex for asking that question…
ican’t…. even… see… straight…
” When you are not only ignorant but happily ignorant of what is happening around you I can’t deal with it.”
that is the truth.. i may not know everything, but i’m willing to learn.. but it’s when you laugh at my jeopardy playing.. or after “what’s for dinner?” the conversation stops.. then i have a problem..
i love this post.
but i have a different perspective.
see myself, i have two very very different groups of friends. the ones whom have “more degrees than a thermostat” as someone upthread stated (loves it) and the ones who would give you an evil eye if you told them school was the path they should consider.
funny thing is, the serious discussions are ALWAYS brought up at the lesser-educated gatherings. it’s as if people feel the need to prove that they are smart, despite the lack of traditional education… and they generally are.
on the other hand, the only highly educated group gatherings i’ve been a part of that consistently delve into in-depth conversations are those where a group of poets/spoken word artists are gathered. and it HAS to be 85-90% poets. any lesser mix, and the conversation is on the supremacy of Red Kool-aid over grape, brandy’s hairline, and how whorish-yet effable- pilots and flight attendants are.
the ability to have these conversations is important, true. but i think that just goes along with wanting someone that is interested in MORE than the news that BET, MTV, VH1 and E! provide. cause i like men that read and such. lol.
**off topic: what would you say about a MBA having, 5 successful business/ventures owning, straight Black Man who argues the literary merit (on the high-positive gradient) of ALL of E.Lynn Harris’ novels. …cause he’s read um, them all?
@Muze
I have different sets of friends also. They break down into
1) street ninja friends
2) friends from school
3) friends I grew up with
4) friends from work
The funny thing is that the serious conversations are usually with the street ninja’s and the friends from work. Neither group went to college.
“The funny thing is that the serious conversations are usually with the street ninja’s and the friends from work. Neither group went to college.”
this seems to be the pattern with my friends. i think it’s a common knowledge that we all are pretty well-informed, but seriously, my friends who didn’t go to college use terms like ‘urban sprawl’ in regular convo. lol. it’s weird.
@Muze
**off topic: what would you say about a MBA having, 5 successful business/ventures owning, straight Black Man who argues the literary merit (on the high-positive gradient) of ALL of E.Lynn Harris’ novels. …cause he’s read um, them all?
What would I say to about or to him other than:
“Go sit down.”
**off topic: what would you say about a MBA having, 5 successful business/ventures owning, straight Black Man who argues the literary merit (on the high-positive gradient) of ALL of E.Lynn Harris’ novels. …cause he’s read um, them all?
He’s not straight….
@Muze Ol’ boy sounds suspect to me.
**off topic: what would you say about a MBA having, 5 successful business/ventures owning, straight Black Man who argues the literary merit (on the high-positive gradient) of ALL of E.Lynn Harris’ novels. …cause he’s read um, them all?
I would expect for him to have a fascination for glitter, unicorns, the color pink, astroglide, and arches his eyebrows because he is comfortable with his sexuality.
@Jai
#pointsblouses…
LMAO!!
not at all. If you got ANY E. Lynn Harris novels, dude….you need to explain.
Bond.
**off topic: what would you say about a MBA having, 5 successful business/ventures owning, straight Black Man who argues the literary merit (on the high-positive gradient) of ALL of E.Lynn Harris’ novels. …cause he’s read um, them all?
Yeah, um, no. You should ask him if it’s must be crowed in that closet with his degrees and literary masterpieces and all.
**off topic: what would you say about a MBA having, 5 successful business/ventures owning, straight Black Man who argues the literary merit (on the high-positive gradient) of ALL of E.Lynn Harris’ novels. …cause he’s read um, them all?
Sorry, but that is pretty damn suspect.
what would you say about a MBA having, 5 successful business/ventures owning, straight Black Man who argues the literary merit (on the high-positive gradient) of ALL of E.Lynn Harris’ novels. …cause he’s read um, them all? .
That he may like “homosexual” activities in heterosexual relationships?!?! And that’s not throwing shade because I do. LOL
And that’s not throwing shade because I do. LOL
LMAO…. and I feel you.
“off topic: what would you say about a MBA having, 5 successful business/ventures owning, straight Black Man who argues the literary merit (on the high-positive gradient) of ALL of E.Lynn Harris’ novels. …cause he’s read um, them all?”
i guess he just likes reading and sh*t
lol. look at Champ being nice.
i was/am highly suspect of the existence of his affinity for girls. justsaying.
“see myself, i have two very very different groups of friends. the ones whom have “more degrees than a thermostat” as someone upthread stated (loves it) and the ones who would give you an evil eye if you told them school was the path they should consider.”
Ooh, this is a good aspect of friendship and I think many educated Black folks can related to this. Being able to seamlessly fit in with both extremes: the multi-degreed and the hood folks. I can fit in with both groups at times, using different forms of language for each, but still ultimately being myself. It’s a talent that a lot of my brothas/sistas have and for that I always have to gives us mad props.
@Cheekie
now THIS, more than anything, is something i appreciate. not only the ability to fit into the law society conversation, but also kick it on the corner with regular ninjas and not seem like the ‘whotf brought this one?’ guy. i think this is VERY important for a black man, and it makes me all cartoon-heart eyed when i witness it. i call it the Barack factor. lol.
basically vsb/vss’ rock like new socks.
“i think this is VERY important for a black man, and it makes me all cartoon-heart eyed when i witness it. i call it the Barack factor. lol.”
Yeah, I am thoroughly turned on by any brotha who can do this with ease. lol
@ everyone who responded to my off-topicness
thanks for validating the fact that i’m not crazy. lol.
i mean, his books are much for me, and i’m a woman.
Me too and I’m a
futurelibrarian. The topic of sex and erotica just came up in my class readers advisory and E. Lynn Harris was all I could think about it and I’ve only read one, maybe two of his books!I think we just want to know in case the subject of politics or immigration ever came up…that special someone could speak on it intelligently. I personally, don’t want to spend all night talking about these subjects, interesting as they may be.
I find that talking about Basketball Wives, Chilli, and other nonsense makes for better conversation..lol.
It does bother me though..if someone doesn’t even know what is going on in the world and just gives you the BLANK stare when you mention AZ or anything in the news..its like, “huh”? Or they have the facts ALL WRONG…that may be even worse. LOL.
Or they have the facts ALL WRONG…that may be even worse. LOL.
lol, i actually love talking to people who love to cite wrong facts. it makes my day hearing someone talk about how penny and tim hardaway were brothers and how they should just go ahead and make puerto rico the 51st territory.
I also think the ability to have the knowledge of said pretentious subjects can also go over well when it’s just being referenced in a regular conversation. Por ejemplo, my parents just left for a cruise out of New Orleans, and I asked will they see any remnants of the oil spill. Now, if someone was totally ignorant to current events they wouldn’t know what was being referenced and I would probably give them the side eye.
I also remember talking with this guy and using the word incestuous in a sentence and he didn’t know what the word meant. So, even though we weren’t talking about anything serious it was kinda annoying to stop and explain the meaning of a word.
I also remember talking with this guy and using the word incestuous in a sentence and he didn’t know what the word meant
lol, thats too serious of a word to use in a regular sentence
Most of the conversations between my crew and I are dumb because when we link up we’re usually ready for beer, talking about behinds, guns, and whatever foolishness that comes up. My friends and I didn’t start having serious ultra serious convos until recently, a toddler with sickle cell, a pending divorce, and several sick parents will do this.
We just don’t sit down to talk about Gaza strip or the plight of little black boys in southwestern SC all the time but these conversations have happened. (Usually after everyone is sh*tfaced.) Sure we’ll swap an “North Korea, wtf?” text but we just don’t debate about anything serious while we’re destroying a wing platter because serious conversations tend to make lemon pepper wings less appealing.
“Sure we’ll swap an “North Korea, wtf? text”
lol, really, what else needs to be said about north korea other than “wtf”?
“lol, really, what else needs to be said about north korea other than “wtf”?”
It’s either “wtf?” or Pray to God he don’t drop that sh*t!
first of all, i really can’t believe how late/early you all stay up to comment. good grief, charlie brown, 1:30/2am? I can’t. Just reading those earl arse comments make me tired.
Now, back to the topic at hand.
My social circle is all professional college educated black folk, and we rarely have serious discussions. And if the alcohol is flowing, you can forget about. Usually, we start talking about something serious like the oil spill, and someone will tell a crass joke, and there’s the end of our serious conversation. It happens like that almost every time. lol.
Ummm…I know this is off subject but I finally saw S&TC 2 movie this weekend and guess what…I REALLY liked it! It was wayyyy better than the first one, in my opinion. I was just a bit surprised by something that happened at the beginning though. If you are a true S&TC fan then you know what I mean…I was like…HUH???
You already hit the nail on the head…it’s more about the ability to have those types of conversations than to actually have them. As long as it’s not ALWAYS about Drake, Lakers v Celtics, and iPADS.
Classism is alive and well, folk do it in a vareity of ways to feel “better” than the next man/woman, but when it comes down to it, a degree, advanced degrees etc doesn’t make the individual, at’tall nor is it really an accurate measure of intelligence.
Now I can converse with everyone from paupers to Kings and everything in between, esp if folk are cool and interesting LOL, people that live from the spirit tend to transcend.
“Now I can converse with everyone from paupers to Kings and everything in between, esp if folk are cool and interesting LOL, people that live from the spirit tend to transcend.”
Simply truth.Nothing is better than having a glimpse of someone’s spirit that is what I want to know and hear.
“”top five NBA players with surprisingly good looking mothers“.”
Okay, I thought it was just me who saw that.
And I think the verb form of the noun hierachy is “hieracheritize”.
And originally I thought this post was going to be about the “so what are we” talk that couples have.
And originally I thought this post was going to be about the “so what are we” talk that couples have.
me too!
I guess my opinion on this is that there is nothing wrong with informing yourself with what is going in the world outside of our everyday lives and interests. I know most of you are like me and you are the only black person in your office and/or the only black person with a college degree or more. There are things here that I don’t talk about with my boys or my family, like politics, baseball and what is going on in the news. Me and my boys talk about girls, football, basketball, girls, video games, movies, girls and their butts, music, shoes, why women drive us crazy, stuff like that. Every once in a while, stuff in the news comes up but it is usually the most extreme or ill stuff in the news, like that sink hole that looks like a path to hell in Guatemala. I learned that you don’t have to throw everything you know with people when you talk to them. I’m a shy dude anyway so if something comes up where I can have a simple conversation with someone, especially a woman, that doesn’t have any overbearing subject matter, I usually go for it. It helps me out when I talk to customers, too. At the same time, I am a geek and I have always had a thirst for knowledge, so if something peaks my interest, I try to learn as much about it as I can. I am the same way with women. I have always felt like the guy that could talk about anything with anyone it has gotten a lot, and I mean A LOT, of free drinks. There is nothing wrong with gaining knowledge of the world and the things that go on in it. Just don’t make it feel like you are better than the next man because of it. Let gaining knowledge be about self improvement, not being an @$$hole.
when you talk wit people, a good communicator meets folks where they are, sort of like a good writer/story teller, you have to know your audience, and adjust, being very malleable in this fashion, gets it in and understood most times.
@ComicBookGuy
Let gaining knowledge be about self improvement, not being an @$$hole.
Yes baby you hit the nail on the head. I’ve met too many sassy women with degrees and jerky men with degrees who are so arrogant it’s a complete turn off. News flash: ANYONE can get a degree now a days. You don’t have to be smart to sit through class and memorize *sh.
It’s all about insight and being able to relate to others as we need each other to get by. Be yourself, talk about what you want. Don’t fill some expectation on what you think will make you deep.
I can tell you are smart…and stuff.
@SmartFoxGirl
Yes anyone can get a degree…these school (some online) are handing out degrees like BET hands out awards…
LMAO…it’s not sacred anymore
@SmartFoxGirl,
Thanks. I’m just some tall guy who wears glasses. You’re the smart, hot one.
Thanks but glasses are sexy…especially shy, reading types that add meaningful comments to blogs…and are 6’2 and willing to grab the cereal on the top shelf for me….jus sayin.
@SmartFoxGirl,
*blocks his face to hide e-blushes*
Man, you’re good. lol
“Let gaining knowledge be about self improvement, not being an @$$hole.”
T-shirt?
I am all for it.
There is nothing wrong with gaining knowledge of the world and the things that go on in it. Just don’t make it feel like you are better than the next man because of it. Let gaining knowledge be about self improvement, not being an @$$hole.
In a nutshell. Liking the knowledge for the sake of knowledge will not make you feel like those conversations are “pretentious”, because you are not talking/discussing these topics to impress anyone… It’s the people who do it in an effort to impress that end up finding it tedious… IMHO.
I wanna throw something out there…Who says a person with a degree or even advanced degrees is smart?
I’m college educated and so are 99% of my friends. My parent is physician and everyone in my family has a bachelors, masters or higher. Even my “baby” cousin starts MIT in the fall. Hence my username, I would like to think that I am smart but a degree only says that you are BOOK smart…and only smart in that specific field.
Intelligence is not measured on what you know. It’s your ability to comprehend and problem solve. Does college teach you that? That all depends on the person. I believe Life teaches you that. Being informed on Darfur or talking about the politics doesn’t make you meaningful or your conversation meaningful.
When I am with family and friends, I discuss life and our situations. We converse with each other on real topics affecting us and try to be a support system or help each other sort out our life’s problems. Talking about how smart we are or world news means nothing to me as I could care less what you think about it. The point is to know what’s going on around you..who cares about discussing it? My girl Ms.Twix (who is also educated) and I will discuss Beyonce’s lace front wig and then jump into why she sabotaged her date on Friday…it all depends.
I lost my point but it really irks me when people talk about how many degrees they have and how “smart” they are. Especially when people use that to describe how “good” a person is. I.e. “Yeah Calvin is a nice guy, he has his masters.” Really? So I should trust Calvin around my child cause he has is masters? Please.
what makes it meaningful is the connection isn’t it??, how true, how valid, how strong, how deep
*finger snaps*
I like your point on intelligence, especially the life aspect. Life does teach you how to comprehend and problem solve because when if kicks your @$$ enough, you have to either adapt, which requires you to solve your problems using that thing sits on your neck, or be left behind.
Yes! Yes! Yes! *excited voice*…whew (lights up cig)
You are too funny. *wipes sweat from SmartFoxGirl’s brow*
@SmartFoxGirl
I heart you for saying this. We are >< on this. I am tired of statistics being used for judgements of character and intelligence. I run into this a lot in my field of work. This is one of the reasons people graduate from undergrad and grad school with a sense of entitlement. I think it's also why work that isn't white collar or work that is dirty is looked down on. It's funny you bring up "Calvin". I had a situation with my mother this weekend with the female version of "Calvin".
I heart you and your gravatar lol but yes this gets on my nerves. Especially now that everyone is trying to hook me up with some guy and the first line is always what degree he has…Yes and? Ugh I feel you. I’m not sure why blue collar jobs are looked down upon (I lied, yes I do) but I don’t agree. My ex was a baggage handler and was financially in the same boat as many college grads I know…except he had a job and many of them didn’t. Let’s keep it real, in this economy nothing is for sure so we are all in the same boat.
And the only time someone’s degree is beneficial to me is for business purposes…not life, love, or friendship.
@SmartFoxGirl
“Especially now that everyone is trying to hook me up with some guy and the first line is always what degree he has…Yes and? Ugh I feel you.”
I feel you. This is the reason behind the situation with my mother. Everyone is trying to hook me up. The first thing they say is “she has so and so degree and is working on ____ degree and is _____ at ____corporation. I get all of this before a name. I’m sick of it.
“Intelligence is not measured on what you know. It’s your ability to comprehend and problem solve. Does college teach you that? That all depends on the person. I believe Life teaches you that. Being informed on Darfur or talking about the politics doesn’t make you meaningful or your conversation meaningful. ”
This is too true. I mean, anyone can list off a bunch of facts, but I think what people really admire is being about to make an informed and interesting opinion based on said facts. Something that I believe is not so much taught in college, but in Life 101.
Life 101
love it
There ya go!
i’m late, but i heart this whooooole comment.
thanks.
One thing to add: Just b/c you’re talking about silly, seemingly unintelligent topic, in order to do it well, one must be articulate and intelligent. You learn alot more about a person’s personality and intelligence from casual conversation. Its not these conversations are actually devoid of all things intelligent, its that these convos are overflowing w/ intelligence but its interpreted and experienced in a different way
I agree. I feel like I learn a lot about a person by not necessarily observing what they talk about, but how they talk about it…there’s a certain level of intelligence that has to be present in order to talk about anything and make it make some type of sense…
The majority of my friends come from different backgrounds. The fact that I am a black female republican w/at least 2 friends says something in itself. You have the ones who are highly educated to the ones who roll thru WalMart w/slippers, booty shorts and half of their weave done. Not all of my friends are friends w/each other, but each one serves their own purpose.
We don’t sit around and talk about all of our degrees (but we damn sure talk about those student loans…sigh) or the fact that we have great careers (or at least the fact that we have a job). People are sensitive about subjects that they passionate about. To avoid the drama we just avoid the subject of politics and religion and focus on things that really mean something in the world….MAC, dating, weaves, wigs, current events, current celebrity gossip, shoes, First 48 and family.
The fact that I am a black female republican w/at least 2 friends says something in itself.
This made me chuckle.
….MAC, dating, weaves, wigs, current events, current celebrity gossip, shoes, First 48 and family.
Damn Jai, I talk about these same things too. *obama dap* lol
When I go to a MAC store and they have a new cremesheen (i hearts partial to pink!), I get all happy inside and I am like a kid in a candy store.
@SmartFoxGirl…you are officially a friend in my head!
Oh yes I am an addict.
…you are officially a friend in my head!
Um…duh!
lol oh yes those dam student loans. how could I forget. We talk about those usually 1x a month when they’re due
Let me find out that I need to change up my corner on Georgia Ave for something closer to Silver Springs and raise rates…
They’re always screwing the small business owner.
I work with in an academic department at a majority university. My department has a very diverse international faculty and I’m one of two Blacks in the department and one of a few non-Phd’d. Of course working in academia your supposed to be all academic and thangs but making it through lunch, socials, or mixers with these people is absolutely painful. I mean is it asking too much to want to discuss Brandy’s lace front versus Kate’s extensions over bruschetta, crab bisque and unsweet sweet tea?
It’s as if people think VSBP live in bubbles or we’re on some superhuman intellectual bull 24/7. I’ve gotten the side-eye while watching Jeopardy (and killing it) in my own home. The same individual thought it was absurd that me and my boo watched an episode of “You are NOT the Father!” and took bets on who would pass/fail the paternity tests. That person is just as smart (if not smarter) than me, but because I am a self-professed nerd she just finds it odd when I “turn it off” but really, how boring would I be if I didn’t.
Which brings me to my cousin. She has her master’s and works as an academic advisor at a prominent public ivy. Our family has secretly dubbed her the “guidance counselor” because she just will. not. quit. She did her master’s in the Midwest, where she lost her southern accent. I feel sorry for her because no one wants to fool with her at family gatherings because she acts like she’s our family’s self-appointed life coach. Some times I just want to shake her and say, “Earth to ______! We are your family, your cousins and ‘nem. We slept 6 in a bed–three by the foot and three by the head. Please eat a burnt hot dog and sit down!”
I liked this comment.
Thanks
I don’t post too often but when I do it always seems to be a pretty long post. #needtoworkonthat
In my experience, these “important intellectual coversations” are being had…just with my family. We talk about politics, world affairs, wendy william’s wigs, and all that other stuff over brunch. But during my social time w/friends we’re more likely to talk about less stressful stuff.
With my boyfriend we tend to talk less in general. Why? To quote Chris Rock “We got f*cking to do!”
Best post ever…
Now you getting into some real shat…we want to see each other for who we really are…not hear sound bites from CNN or presentations on why our accomplishments reflect who we are. Be real…take off the mask…let me see you. Maybe…some people just can’t handle the truth…would rather the person they are meeting be a Sex in the City Character or the Range Rover family…than be themselves. I’m confused…
Maybe it depends on your friends Champ.
I’m a PhD engineering student. A lot of my friends are also engineers in similar fields, or computer science students who have now gone into law, or people in some sort of scientific or technical field. My dad’s a professor in a mechanical engineering dept, my mom has her Masters in Chemistry (at some point was working on her PhD).
Dinner time at our house was always one of discussion. That’s just the kind of people we are. We would talk about what was going on in school, things we were just reading, the news, and the politics of what was going on in DC or out in the country.
When I hang out with my friends, we don’t always have deep discussions, but it is something that happens from time to time. I remember especially during the last presidential campaign season after the financial crisis really started hitting the news, every night that I was out at the Library or ShadowLounge or Tiki, there was always discussion and arguments about the socioeconomic system of the US. A friend of mine was living at my place while on coop at CMU and so not only were we having these discussions when out with other friends, he and I would have these arguments almost nightly. Then we’d stop and play StarCraft.
I think we look for the ability of people to have these discussions not because we are pretentious or some sort of snob, but because we want people in our lives to have similar values and care about similar things. For example, one of the things that I want to do is improve educational programs and opportunities at the secondary school level that will get a lot more kids interested and motivated to go into robotics and engineering. My best friend has that same goal. It is not something we talk about often, unless we are working on a specific program or need to exchange ideas on the topic, but it is definitely something that is part of the bond that makes us as good of friend as we are now (he’s practically my brother – his parent’s have more or less adopted me as their fourth [and black] son).
So, knowing that a potential mate keeps up on what’s going on with the economy or the state of public schools in Pittsburgh, or whatever else informs us on that persons character and motivations. For those of us who care, it means that to some degree, they think for themselves, rather than just regurgitating something they heard someone else say. It is a shared value and perhaps a shared sense of responsibility. It is something where you know the other person “has your back” without it needing to be explicitly said, it means that the time you do feel about having a conversation on the topic, you are free to be yourself and express yourself fully, rather than holding back because your friends don’t care or are not capable of having the conversation.
I like to be able to talk about things without having to dumb down what I’m saying, or have people give me the “so you think you are better than us” look. Now, just given what I do, there are always going to be things I could talk about that will be over the heads of most of my friends and vice versa. But for a good portion of things that I’m interested in, that I like to from time to time engage others in conversation, I want to be able to have a good back and forth. And even if our discussion on politics only really heats up during a presidential campaign, or the discussion on robotics only occurs once a month, it makes me very happy to have people in my life where this happens.
@kamakula
“Dinner time at our house was always one of discussion. That’s just the kind of people we are. We would talk about what was going on in school, things we were just reading, the news, and the politics of what was going on in DC or out in the country.”
My family is similar. My ex came over for
dinner New Years day when we were together.
The conversation amongst family and friends
was similar to what your family discusses at
dinner. She called my parents and their friends
bougie. It wasn’t that they were bougie. She
didn’t have anything to add to the conversation and she felt out of place. This is
one of the reasons being able to talk about
these type of things is important.
” like to be able to talk about things without having to dumb down what I’m saying, or have people give me the “so you think you are better than us” look”
I go through the same thing. Sometimes I keep quiet because I feel like I’m lecturing. I’ve dumb down quite a few times in conversations with my people
“WORD” on the dumbing down everyone is expressing here. It is hella rampant amongst our people…SMH.
D*MN Kamakula..that was sexy…
“For those of us who care, it means that to some degree, they think for themselves, rather than just regurgitating something they heard someone else say”
i have this problem with the broads down here.. i find myself constantly saying to my mother “the lemmings died at the end of the story..” i just want people to think for themselves.. it’s so convenient for people to accept what the masses are saying as fact.. without finding out for yourself whether or not it fits in with your thoughts and beliefs.. i call it being lazy..
i’ve had to dumb down some conversations.. it’s hard not coming off like a “know it all”.. i’m just starved for some conversation where i don’t exactly have to play “webster” and give you the definition of the words i’m saying…
that’s all…
@humble_one..
is the scenario you’re describing with that same lady from upthread…
cuz i’m getting doubly upset for her caling your people bougie.. X__X
@Nick_L_Odeon
“is the scenario you’re describing with that same lady from upthread”
*holds head down in shame*
Yes it’s the same woman.
awww…
*gives humble_one an e-hug..* because i can’t give you a real one..
we all had our moments darlin…
pobresito…
I think we look for the ability of people to have these discussions not because we are pretentious or some sort of snob, but because we want people in our lives to have similar values and care about similar things.
Pretty much.
And whether we like it or not, those issues DO affect our abilities to discuss lace-front wigs or what have you. So discussing them in a true manner (not just to impress or whatever) is a way to facilitate the Basketball Wives watching…
*does the robot dance from dave chappelle*
lol. i keed, i keed
“asses, glasses, and advanced degrees”
it’s official – i am dime!
Check, check, and check…guess I’m a dime too…who knew!
Oh wait…I can’t actually take credit for that first check…I’m a little short in the asses department…but after I implement my ice cream every day diet I should be able to qualify on all three
Yeah I’m deep….The emancipation of my proclamation is the ejaculation of the precipitation…my brotha. *smoking cig as if were a blunt*…(massive inhale)…Is that a love seat n*gga? How can I sit on that if I aint in love? (exhale) I’m done.
Dead at your whole post!
I think my brain imploded…
some of us smarty art negroes actually *DO* have such discussions. in fact, last weekend, my fiancee and i had a debate about whether owning a home makes you middle-class … in a dive bar, no less.
it’s not overrated for us at all. actually, the fact that i can theorize about the impact of the kyrgyzstan coup (and also spell kyrgyzstan as well as point it out on a map) is a turn on to him … lol.
we’re nerds like that. what can i say?
I don’t feel so alone anymore…
(I actually read your blog daily…
)
I think it has to do with the fact that your experiences influence your perspective. Being educated does not mean you’re intelligent, and in the same vein, intelligence doesn’t beget wisdom…but being educated gives you a pool of experience to draw from, and allows you to more easily relate to others who had a similar experience, e.g. other folks who went to college/grad school/whatever.
That being said, classism does exist. There are people who let their degrees and their place on the economic totem pole define them as a person, and the idea manifests that only people with a similar station in life as mine could want and value the same things as me.
SN: VH1 Dirty South Honors and no 8 Ball and MJG?!?!?! #epicFAIL!!
Which is why I did not watch it. Southern hip hop is not just ATL and MIA. MemphTen had a big influence on hip hop, especially those 8Ball and MJG. Scarface was right for boycotting that s#%! When he said that he was boycotting it, I lost my desire to watch it. Every rapper south of the Mason Dixon was influenced by Scarface and if they say they weren’t, they probably suck anyway.
VH1 Dirty South Hip Hop Honors PERIOD Epic Fail on numerous proportions.
(how can we enhance our image when VH1 promotes such fcukery (along w/their other programs) to the masses and then we wonder why we are stereotyped…smh
Sure am glad I didn’t check for that isht.
It airs tonight.. I scrolled thru the honorees didn’t see OutKast but saw they opted out, and yes the handling, the accuracy etc is phcuked, but thats what happens when outsiders are basically are running the show.
I’m not from the South and I think this is lame. Fab 5 Freddy should know better. How are you going to honor a whole region? As if the South’s contribution deserves an asterik or disclaimer. Like it’s separate from everyone else. They wouldn’t do this to any other region.
I agree 100%! I know there things that interest me that varies. I enjoy talking about education as well as talking about Rihanna changing her hair color and that ugly hair cut! Most of the time it’s the latter. So when my friends want to spend hours on the oil spill I start feeling guity because I feel thats draining.
Your right, like what does it mean to have these serious conversation all the time? I am glad to know I am not the only person that does not take my degreed self so seriously.
I don’t think the premium placed on ability to have the “serious” conversation is really about the actual desire to have many conversations like that. It’s that people who are able to have the “serious” conversations are usually a little more aware of what’s going on in the world and probably have a slightly better vocabulary because they read something other than King magazine (which I’m not completely sure is intended to be read).
Having a conversation about even the most inane topics is way more interesting with someone who can draw a parallel between China’s impact on the global economic markets and the transition of Lil Kims face.
I once dated a guy who was really impressed with his own intelligence. In the middle of a conversation about, oh, say, nothing of any real value, he burst (notice I didn’t say “busted”) out with a question about my thoughts on the European economy.
I was like “Whatdahell? Dude, do you really think I wanna talk about that sht? Boy, stop.”
Can you say “Lame as fck.”?
Needless to say, I probably saw him 1.8 times after that.
I love this post! While I do like to have a serious convo when something major occurs, it doesn’t need to happen at every gathering. I’ve been friends with 3 people since were in 3rd or 4th grade and we’ve all done the whole undergrad in grad and professional school thing. When we get together we want to relax and just be. We were just together this past weekend and convo topics included- who are the 2 members of the Wu-Tang clan we always forget to mention, who’s gonna bust who’s as* on Mario Kart Wii, putting my godson in the dryer, the time we tried to smoke teabags etc…
I do have another set of friends that is sometimes too serious. Lighten up and laugh. And I hate when I decide to not participate in the discussion and they reference the fact that I went to college so I should have something to say. I do not have to prove anything to you!
I think that a person’s everyday life is also reflective of what they talk about as well. For example, my friends and I might reference going to so and so’s graduation or talk about what we want to do in the future. We would also be understanding if one of us asks a friend to go out and and she said no I have to study, or we talk about the day at work since this is our reality.
On the other hand, I have some family members that day to day life is different and the conversation will reflect that. I’m not talking about bringing my gun to “talk” to the parents that chased my nephew and his friends home, or am I worrying about my grandmother not letting my boyfriend in her house because he’s a street pharmacist. Nor am I talking about who my teenage kids are sleeping with and not doing anything about it.
I am an internet junkie. I love spending my work day reading random articles and humorous yet informative blogs
So when I’m with people I genuinely like talking to, I usually will be like “Oh did you hear about…” just to get their opinions and whatnot. I can’t be with someone that A) doesn’t give poptart about current events or B) can’t even indulge me and hold this lame convo.
Trust I can be on my random ish, I can have a DEEP debate on why Miracle Whip will never beat mayo. But dang, can’t I get stimulated sometimes??? (no innuendo)
Besides nothing is more entertaining than having convos about hair weaves, the right grease consistency in fried chicken, and the best way to attack a home intruder with ppl who clearly can be discussing some of the world most pressing issues.
Anyone ever have convo’s with friends that start light and end up much deeper? Watching a basketball game with friends I commented on Ron Artest, which led to a convo about him runnin’ up in the stands and mollywhoppin’ that fool that threw a cup at his head. The convo went like this:
Me: Dude in the stands threw a cup and the back up his head. He deserved to get his butt kicked. (Old skool. If you bomb first, expect to get bombed back on)
Friend; I thought his (Artest’s) behavior was ridiculous he gets paid too much money to act like that.
Me: So now the amount of money one get’s paid determines what type of abuse or disrespect they should allow on the work place? I’m not on TV, but let a colleague throw a filled glass of liquid at my head and see if I don’t try my damndest to defend myself? Also are you implying that one’s self-respect is for sell? If so, that’s a slippery slope. I have to be a robot and except any type of disrespect because I make millions? Plus, it takes responsibility from every human being to act like they got some sense.
Friend: As an athlete that is part of his job to ignore the jeers. He can’t hop in the crowd because someone says something about him he doesn’t like.
Me: This wasn’t a comment. This was a physical act to assault him. What if the cup hit him in the eye and injured him and injured his eye? What does it say for subsequent games that anybody can do what they want because the athletes owe them due to their salaries? So now any spectator can showcase their dissatisfaction in such a fashion and all professional sporting events are fair game? So does that mean if you earn a good salary folks can treat you any old way?
Tons of typing errors * frustrated and apologetic sigh*
Girl you do this every comment- lol… we don’t care about your errors! lol
It does my heart good to read through the posts herein today. In one of my social circles: MBA, Doctor, Lawyer, types, when we get together, it’s all politics and policies and business stuff with a hint of NBA & NFL thrown in….most of which is stuff I couldn’t care less about. I’m usually quiet in these conversations, not because I don’t know what they are talking about, but moreso because I really don’t give a sh*t about it. There’ve been times during these discussions that I’ve inquired “so, what can to do this week to change x,y,z (as related to the topic of discussion or bitching)” to which the response is some glossed over redirection of conversation. My boys are cool and all, but damn, can’t we talk about which is the greater FUPA indicator…a great azz-to-waist ratio in early 20′s or a great bust-to-waist ratio?
can’t we talk about which is the greater FUPA indicator…a great azz-to-waist ratio in early 20’s or a great bust-to-waist ratio?
More importantly is this question: is the FUPA a desired feature or not?
Interesting. I like talking to most people when I’m in the mood for it. Fun thing is when everyone is versed on the subject and the participant’s minds can run w/ ideas that flow to the end harmoniously (newtonian laminar much?) That’s what I think about it.
So who was the bigger sexist the artist who painted god to be a man or the person to feminine the name “godess”?
Oh yeah Chicken Noodle Soup. & a PB&J
I think the first one is… The second one has the benefit of the doubt… In certain languages, “God” has no gender…
And yes, Chicken noodle soup is where it’s at.
Oh and what about people who use big words to sound intelligent…while you are laughing on the inside because you know the real meaning of the word and it didn’t fit their sentence.
Just my thought- I think it is important to have a mate that can talk intelligently about those things…IN PUBLIC. Reading between the lines, if I am going to go somewhere in mixed company, we are NOT going to talk about grilling chitlin’s and how crazy those palm colored folks are. We are going to talk about some issues. Gatherings of black professionals can certainly be a place to rehash those issues, but it’s nice to just be “regular people” sometimes too…able to just shoot the sH%t if you will.
Dorothy is Miranda. Blanche is Samantha. Sophia is Carrie. Rose is Charlotte. I’m just sayin…
Sophia is NOT Carrie nor is Dorothy Miranda. Dorothy and Carrie were both the centerpieces of their shows, Dorothy by way of her supporting familial characters of Stan and Sophia (mom and Exhub). Miranda was always the cynical one, which Sophia was always good for on GG.
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Um, I think VH1 Honors warped my brain cells to formulate an opinion worth typing.
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