Do you all remember the dead prez song “Hip-Hop”? When that song dropped EVERYBODY who had even the slightest love for hip-hop was going apesh*t.
The beat was crazy. The hook was crazy. The video? Man they duped every man by showing the fat tushy right at the beginning.
In 2000, dead prez came thru with the vengeance. So being the hip-hop lover that I was (and still am) I copped the album, Let’s Get Free, (this was before illegal downloading was the thing to do). I didn’t love the album but I was vibing with them because they were on some God-body, back to Africa stuff. Okay, not really, but they were on some revolutionary, do for self, get-right speech.
And then, Track 8.
It took maybe 22 or so minutes of listening, but when I heard Track 8, I officially hated dead prez.
The track? “Mind Sex”.
Oh you know this track even if you haven’t heard it. It’s the song where they discuss how they don’t just want to get in your drawerz ladies, they want to get into your mind. Every deep cat has gone this route at least once.
Le sigh.
Let me just say upfront, I HATE it when men get to pandering to women in order to make themselves seem like they’re not like every other man. “Hey girl, of course I want to see you naked, but I’d like to see your mind’s eye naked to and make sweet love to your cerebellum under the constellations while we wax philosophical about Egypt and ancient Mathematics from Greece. Girl, it’s your mind that arouses me, not your derriere.”
Ninja please.
To quote the great Phonte from Little Brother, “…at the end of the night, y’all just trynna f*ck like me…”
Look, I know men SAY these things, (not ironically) to get the booty, but you aren’t supposed to lame out on wax. Permanently. For one, it makes you sound bigger than you are, but for two, mostly it just sounds uber-corny. I find it hard to believe that even most women found that song to be inspirational and positive because it went SOOO hard in the lame-cat category.
Here’s some lyrics. Ladies, imagine if a man were to say this to you, how would you respond?
But tonight well try a different route, how bout we start
With a salad, a fresh bed of lettuce with croutons/Later we can play a game of chess on the futon
See I aint got to get in your blouse/Its your eye contact, that be getting me aroused…
Before the nights through, we could get physical too/I aint tryin to say I dont wanna f*ck, cause I do But for me boo, makin love is just as much mental/I like to know what Im gettin into
The last few lines are the only lines that don’t make me cringe (it’s still corny though). That sounds like what real men would say. By real men, I mean honest and true to life cats. And I know, revolutionary cats are the same ones on that non-sensical, “My Black Queen is the sand beneath my mandals…”
But still, that’s the problem with this song to me (and all songs like it), why lie? Further, why lie and make yourself look THAT lame in the process. Now, I could be wrong and maybe women LOVE it when men offer them fresh salad and croutons first in which case, I’ve been going about it all wrong for years.
However, seriously ladies, if you were dating a man who came at you with some croutons on some, “girl I’d like to put you on the wall, but first, let’s get healthy. Here’s also some tofu and soymilk…” wouldn’t you give the cat the side-eye? And nothing else?
Perhaps I just read to much and its really not that deep (no pun intended) but that one song ruined an entire groups catalog for me because they sounded like some b*tches. But maybe there is an entire population of women out there who long for this type of gayness lameness sincerity.
This all lends itself to a larger point, people laming themselves out and ruining all future interactions. For me dead prez is some b*tches. But others may love them.
Ladies, just how lame a man would you deal with? If your dude came at you on some “mind sex” would you think it was cute or would you automatically dry up faster than Dr. Ruth’s special place in the Sahara? Better yet, what happens if you can tell that he ACTUALLY means it? Do you proceed?
And is there a such thing as a lame woman?
Basically, do croutons have any place in relationships?
-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL, HE A 3
This one takes a minute for everyone to marinate on.
Females can very much be lame (we just call them “wack”). Maybe they’re too boho, bubbly, religious, self esteem too low…but if the box or the durb is on deck, we’ll bear wit’ them for an extended period of time (which is lame of us when we should just cut bait). Thing is, dudes gas these broads up so goddamn much in the name of wantin’ arse (see Myspace pic comments), the game is completely effed up…..
Oh, and Dead Prez? We were just struggling for new music that spring, so we let “Mind Sex” slide…..but I can understand taking the focus off just the draws, if a chick is wifey material (you can rub one out for one more night and be patient while establishing yourself in her brain).
Props to myself on my first “First!” on this blog…
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
“Thing is, dudes gas these broads up so goddamn much in the name of wantin’ arse (see Myspace pic comments), the game is completely effed up…..”
I gotta cosign this. The game is totally effed up. Some chics are gassed on premium octane. I have seen dudes do this first hand. Between gassing and tricking dudes artificially raise the cost of getting some women.
@Humble_One, it’s why so many fat broads swear they’re super-tens* and can get any guy they want. They got better self-esteem than fit and thick chicks now (nttawwt per se)
*There are plenty of fat girls with that foundation meaning they’re cute and quite serviceable, but a good lot of these other heifers need to, how y’all say in these parts? Oh yeah, SADDOWN!
@Humble_One,
Too many females definitely have a false sense of their attractiveness (or lack of) due to the internet and thirsty/fake n*ggas. Of course everyone loves to be complimented, but the fake comments I’ve seen and heard from dudes along with their OBVIOUS intent to “hit it” and the female being thirsty for attention, just makes me nauscious.
I swear a lot of women think they are models just because they have a digital camera and a myspace page.
@Monk,
I swear a lot of women think they are models just because they have a digital camera and a myspace page.
lol. true. it’s amazing.
@charli skipper,
Don’t forget the gratuitous mirror shots. with the cellphone. You, too, can be a myspace model with a camera phone and medicine cabinet.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
“Thing is, dudes gas these broads up so goddamn much in the name of wantin’ arse (see Myspace pic comments), the game is completely effed up…..”
This is too, too true. She becomes to brainwash by just those select few ninjas, she starts to think she can get any ol’ ninja she wants. And then she’s promptly shut the eff down by a ninja who ain’t havin’ none that. Then her feelings get hurt. Dudes need to think of the future, ya’ll.
@Cheekie,
imo, the issue is more that lames would rather devalue women so it’s easier to get the panties, not that these women are too “gassed.”
@GiGi,
“imo, the issue is more that lames would rather devalue women so it’s easier to get the panties, not that these women are too “gassed.””
Devalue women? That seems more like what the “bad boy” would do. A woman would never let a lame — or what she perceives as one, since it’s relative — devalue her. He wouldn’t even get the chance. Or am I not understanding you correctly? Which could be true…it’s Thursday and I’m in pre-Friday mode. lol
@Cheekie,
Devalue women? Yeah, that’s not the case in point I think. I believe it has moreso has to do with dudes devaluing themselves with hopes of knocking the boots.
N*gga, just be you.
@Cheekie,
men who say “these chicks are too gassed” would prefer it if those chicks had lower (not necessarily low) self-esteem, thereby making it easier to get with them. if she didn’t think as highly of herself, that man would have a better shot. instead of considering that maybe he should rise to meet her standards (or work to be with her), he’d rather she lowered hers to accomodate him. if she doesn’t then she’s “brainwash(ed) by just those select few ninjas, she starts to think she can get any ol’ ninja she wants.”
i understand your POV, i just have a different perspective.
@GiGi,
Ah, I getcha now. That’s a very valid perspective, actually.
@GiGi, sounds like you’re arguing that a man absolutely must work to get a woman no matter how wack the woman might be.
Do lame/wack women get to have higher standards whereas men of any kind have to take each female exactly as they are and appeal to them?
@Stuff Ghetto People Like, Oh, and Dead Prez? We were just struggling for new music that spring, so we let “Mind Sex” slide
i could not in good faith let “mind sex” slide. what next? the cha-cha slide?
see, that’s how we end up losing bed-stuy. you let a few folks slide and the next thing you know morehouse is only an hbcu, historically.
above all else, that song was just gay. you would, under NO circumstances, tell your boys that you went into some girls place on some “sincere crouton game” unless you’re just a known mac like that. these cats just look like herbs to me. though in some strange way, uber-revolutionary (even as fake as dead prez come off to me) cats seem like the exact dudes who’d come with the salads and croutons in attempts to get to know a chick better.
extremists all around. extremely militant and extremely lame.
@Panama Jackson,
I wouldn’t say dead prez killed it for me with “Mind Sex” (although it may have because I really don’t fugg with them cats to this day), but it doesn’t take away from their sole classic “Bigger Than Hip Hop”. Just the chorus in itself is something that I tell folks at least thrice a week.
Most “revolutionary” muafuggas be on some shullbit when it comes to their personal relationships though. Am I the only one that has notices that?
@Monk, “Most “revolutionary” muafuggas be on some shullbit when it comes to their personal relationships though. Am I the only one that has notices that?”
You are so right. Dated one of these dudes and was sooo disappointed. Didn’t have a f*ckn clue what to do inside a committed relationship…lost in revolutionary space.
What they espouse is not usually what they’re capable of doing one on one with a woman. Talking out of both sides of their necks.
@ATLOshun,
Yep.
See Nas, Lauryn Hill, Bob Marley, etc…
@ATLOshun, welcome and sh*t
i have noticed that a lot of revolutionary cats are quite womanizing at the same time.
@Monk,
FlavaFlav LMAO
“Pardon me love but you seem like my type
What you doin tonight? you should stop by the site”<that was a line made for Very Smart Bloggers in mind, LOL.
First off, i LOVE this song, lmao! The salad and croutons did make me wince a tad, but this made up for it:
African princess, tell me yo interests
Wait, let me guess boo, you probably like poetry
Heres a little something I jotted down in case I spotted you around
So let me take this opportunity
Would you share a moment with me, over herbal tea?
Take a walk verbally, make a bond certaintly
Cuz in my hand I bet your hand fit perfectly
And its like we floatin out in space when you flirtin wit me.
Ladies! Please tell me that is not some street poetry for dat a**!
Would I buy it completely if a guy said or wrote that to me? No. Would I get all dumb and show my gunshot wounds on my face? You betcha.
Signing off,
Eternal Rose
@overitinNYC, African princess, tell me yo interests
Wait, let me guess boo, you probably like poetry
Heres a little something I jotted down in case I spotted you around
So let me take this opportunity
Would you share a moment with me, over herbal tea?
Take a walk verbally, make a bond certaintly
Cuz in my hand I bet your hand fit perfectly
And its like we floatin out in space when you flirtin wit me.
Ladies! Please tell me that is not some street poetry for dat a**!
it aint…it is simplistic abba rhyme scheme lameness..
foolishness
a woman being wooed with this should hit him in the face and run…..he’s a decepticon
@shay_d_lady, decepticon
Hahaha! Love IT!
@overitinNYC,
“Pardon me love but you seem like my type
What you doin tonight? you should stop by the site”<that was a line made for Very Smart Bloggers in mind, LOL.
HAHA! This is the macking of the future. Where you can mack and e-mack simultaneously.
@overitinNYC, Cuz in my hand I bet your hand fit perfectly
that’s the only good line in that entire thing you copied. for one, it sounds like something that might be said genuinely.
i will say, this type of stuff definitely does work with chicks. real talk, i used to write A LOT of poetry. i mean i can write and i’m random…seems like a perfect fit. but the REASON i started writing poetry was b/c i noticed ths UBER lame dude at my job in Atlanta was booking all the chicks like this? they kept wanting to read more of his stuff and after reading it i was like…”how dumb are these chicks?”
so i hopped on the bandwagon and just started writing. now for me, at some point, it became more for the art of it as i attempted to actually get better. but initially, i was looking for the chicks this sh*t would work on…and they were abundantly aplenty.
hell, i once walked up to a chick in lennox mall and said, when i saw you, i thought of these words…
LMAO. and do you know i got her number.
@Panama Jackson,
When it comes to corny, lame, or poetic lines, it all depends if the woman is physically attracted to you. Mental stimulation, charm, and sense of humor does play a part but waxing poetics isn’t slick if you’re on public transportaion, dressed like a bum, and you stink.
@overitinNYC,
If you’ve been entertained by that line and been “subdued”, consider yourself Victim #871,563,339.
That’s a running number and it may be a lot larger upon reading this.
By the way, Me No Partake In The Wackness.
@Monk, LOL, nah i never have, but it makes me feel better. a guy i used to crush on used that line. he IS a bama!
@overitinNYC,
“Would you share a moment with me, over herbal tea?”
i wish a ninja would say some ish like that to me. he would get the mean and evil side eye….
Usually I’m fast asleep but I just finished reading yesterday’s comments. That was an awesome topic. I love corny dudes the ones who don’t try but just are. I also love mind sex because A.D.I.D.A.S. If you had read my comments from yesterday, you will understand. Glad this “corniness” was permanently saved on wax so future generations will have one reminder that not all hip-hop entertainers felt that a certain race of women were hyper-sexualized gold-digging come dumpsters without minds/personality.
@Blue Skyez, Glad this “corniness” was permanently saved on wax so future generations will have one reminder that not all hip-hop entertainers felt that a certain race of women were hyper-sexualized gold-digging come dumpsters without minds/personality
this song does not say that to me.. it says that they obviously do think I mindless with out personality cuase this is the half a$$ bullshyt they came with to woo me…..
especially knowing the ability Dead Prez had to come with some for real hotness….
@Blue Skyez,
“so future generations will have one reminder that not all hip-hop entertainers felt that a certain race of women were hyper-sexualized gold-digging come dumpsters without minds/personality.”
**In my Bonita voice** Now I ain’t one to gossip so you ain’t heard this from me but…..
All I have to say is I know someone who dated M-1 and pulling that “you’re my spirtual wife” ish with one chick while impregnanting and sharing living space with another isn’t exactly my idea of respect
In the words of Flavooooor Flavvvv “Don’t believe the hype”
@TLC,
I know someone who dated M-1 and pulling that “you’re my spirtual wife” ish with one chick while impregnanting and sharing living space with another isn’t exactly my idea of respect
Women have full access to these files, guys, so play it straight!
@TLC,
“In the words of Flavooooor Flavvvv “Don’t believe the hype””
Truer words have never been spoken…lol
@TLC,
do we know each other? i heard the same thing.
I met M-1 when he came to my campus for the… wait for it… State of Black America conference. Yep, I was one of those girls. I still kinda am, but not nearly as loopy. And he was totally pandering to the militant college girl panties that were LINING UP (myself included- I can admit to past stupidity).
I will say, he is certainly fun to get a cipher going with though.
@BlackBerry Molasses,
I don’t think that we do, however, I am in NY and I see you’re in the tri-state area too….probably know some of the same people….six degrees of seperation I suppose:-)
@Blue Skyez, Glad this “corniness” was permanently saved on wax so future generations will have one reminder that not all hip-hop entertainers felt that a certain race of women were hyper-sexualized gold-digging come dumpsters without minds/personality.
yeah, instead they’ll know that some women will fall for anything. which if you think about it, is roughly the same sh*t.
@Panama Jackson,
That’s actual and factual.
@Monk, you know, every time i see those two words together, i start singing the TLC song, “baby baby baby”
@Blue Skyez,
dam had tha day off yestaday fuq *goes to yestadays blog*
@Blue Skyez,
“Mind Sex” is just a slicker way to get into your drawers. Please read between the lines. Wouldn’t you place more worth in someone who was upfront about their wants?
I was just having a discussion about this song the other day. this shyt was uber lame.. like if this shyt was idris, denzel, and boris covered in chocolate and drippin I would walk away with my mouth frowned up in disgust.
I cant stand a lame a$$ ninja.. lame and ignorant go hand in hand..especially a fake concious rap hip hop oh my queen what is high what is higher wack poem writin recitin a$$ ninja..
@shay_d_lady,
“…like if this shyt was idris, denzel, and boris covered in chocolate and drippin…”‘
Oh Sweet Infant Jesus, the visual! That’d be a sundae for that ass!
Okay I’m done now. Sorry.
@8th Wonder, trust, i took that visual and ran it like a field day relay.
@shay_d_lady,
You going HARD, shay_d…tell em why you mad, son!!!!
@shay_d_lady,
“this shyt was uber lame.. like if this shyt was idris, denzel, and boris covered in chocolate and drippin I would walk away with my mouth frowned up in disgust.”
Oooh, you hurtin’ me with that visual. God forbid any of these foine brothas evah become that lame. I’d have to make like Adam Sandler in that movie that 4 people saw, Click and hit the mute button. They don’t have to talk. Why they even have to talk? They don’t.
@shay_d_lady, to futher quoth the great Phonté Coleman…
“…my Black Queen…don’t know nan’ ni**a…”
See, I’m the kind of person that gets offended if I think a man is trying to play me like I’m stupid. So, yeah, if some guy came at me with that foolishness, I’d probably get mad as hell.
I don’t like it when men try to say the things I want to hear with no real effort at sincerity. It makes me want to punch dead prez in the face.
@charli skipper,
Effort? Sometimes it is not that hard for people to say what they mean.
@kamakula,
they don’t mean it.
Ahh yes, this is akin to my repulsion at “Black Shampoo” on the Wu-Tang Forever double disc…an otherwise delightful voyage into hip-hopitivity. Ruined my sophomore season of soccer domination. Here I am bopping along to practice, getting my Triumph on, and then I hear this randomness via U-God(? maybe? can’t remember?) I cannot stop passes effectively with this bull$hit as a warm up! Convinced I missed All-State because of it.
But I digress. Bottom line, the most attractive thing about a dude is being genuine and both Dead Prez’s and Wu’s offerings ring as blatant attempts at hoodwinkery. Therefore, if a heretofore normal hip-hop head had been kickin’ it, talking bout normal ish and then suddenly reverted to that mind chex bullsh, the puma would pucker and I’d have to roll out. Similarly, if a young man was on some MJB and Meth “You’re All I Need” type game, he’d get the drawers and anything else he asked for.
“I’m realizing that you didn’t have to -uck with me” > “lettuce with croutons”…. by about a zillion puma points.
@Sheffield Swats,
“Ahh yes, this is akin to my repulsion at “Black Shampoo” on the Wu-Tang Forever double disc”
Holy ish, I completely forgot about this song. Way to mess up the flow of an album.
@Sheffield Swats, Yeah it was U-God. Un. Comfortable.
I believe the opening bars were, “Massage, peppermint oils, shampoo & pears/cinnamon, aloe, natural for your hair”
@Sheffield Swats, but i mean, it’s U-God…they guy who clearly has pictures of RZA but nekkid with Prince Paul and Steve Rifkind. how else could anybody justify his existence in the Wu?
i guess what im saying is that he sucks.
@Panama Jackson,
yeah they should have replaced him with cappa-don a long time ago…
“my slang is editorial…”
@SouthernCharm,
whata bout that song “Camay” now that was some billy d will smooth ninja shiii
@BLUNTBLAZER, dude please don’t confuse Ghost’s game with anything U-God has ever done. Seriously, Ghost got the best relationship bars of any member of the Wu. “When she told me her merlot need more grapes/I said boo, you never had wine before?”
Save Me Dear, on the Pretty Tony album, is prolly gonna be my wedding song (either that or Saturday Love, Alexander O’Neal & Cherrelle). Can’t decide.
@SouthernCharm, um…cappadonna sucks too.
slang editorial was a hot song. but that album was hot stanky (leg) garbage.
i couldn’t decide if cappa was a genius or dumb as hell. come to think of it, i’m still not sure.
@Sheffield Swats,
In regards to the Wu, Meth and Mary is by all means a classic way of expressing yourself without being “Love Jone”-ish and adding the lame factor.
@Monk, oh, if we made a list, Meth and would be on top.
“Let me just say upfront, I HATE it when men get to pandering to women in order to make themselves seem like they’re not like every other man.”
This made me think about that Drake character. Ha!
How lame? Well I do believe the men I’ve dated are smart where work is concerned. However, they would never say anything like that. Hell, neither would my father or brothers. Are MEN really saying this shyt? Were they raised in a bleeding-from-the-middle convent?
@Ms. Smart,
Were they raised in a bleeding-from-the-middle convent?
Dayum girl. Way to get gully. *daps*
@Ms. Smart,
“This made me think about that Drake character. Ha!”
*giggle*
Nice.
@Ms. Smart, no man should ever say anything like that. period.
unless you’re dating a chick who’s so impressionable that she’ll take anything you say as deep.
then again…all you have to do with them is say sh*t like, “you ever noticed how the sky is always blue?”
her: you know, now that you mention it, it is always blue. why is that?
him: well beyonce, it’s because its reflecting ALL THIS ICE I’M ROCKING. it’s the ROC!
@Panama Jackson,
“him: well beyonce”
CTFU
@Panama Jackson,
LMAO @ him: well beyonce, it’s because its reflecting ALL THIS ICE I’M ROCKING. it’s the ROC!
@N.I.A. happyhumpday….,
disregard the humpday moniker….
@Panama Jackson,
naw dog a simple nose touch/eskimo kiss get you a kiss (chicks cant resist that idk why) with then leads to chexin. simple game kinda lame but it works on breeezys ery time ery time
@Panama Jackson,
LMAO!! good one!
@Ms. Smart,
“This made me think about that Drake character. Ha!”
chuuch.
Damn ya’ll for the interesting topics making me share all the stupid ish I have lived through. Here it is…
Five dates in, that “tonight’s the night” feeling in the air. We are at a 4-Star restaurant, on the wharf in San Fran. Brother’s game was tight, I was sipping wine, eating shrimp and whatnot… he reaches across the table, takes my hand and then starts quoting from Green Eggs and Ham. Yes, Green Eggs and Ham! And I mean, he is reciting it slow and in a deep voice like Dr. Seuss was some Shakespeare or he was bringing some Love Jones-style Poetry Jam to the table.
When he finished, he kissed my palm and said, “Baby I just want to reach you with my mentals.” I laughed so hard, I spit wine all over the place. He was really hurt but I could not get past the “Sam, I am” of it all. Worse, he explained to me that “The Seuss” was really the original rapper and I needed to recognize the “sensual cadence” of his rhymes. “Are you feeling me?” he asked.
No, I was not. I tried to just let the night go (trying to finish my surf and turf ya’ll) but then he just got more forceful in his defense of all things Seussian. I finally threw a $20 on the table and bailed. Later I thought, that ish MUST have worked on some chick before, he was too confident. I cannot fathom how Dr. Seuss has ever closed the deal for a brother.
@OneChele,
Chile, this was so wack that it made me want to start avoiding people i don’t even know. and that brings up a whole ‘nother aspect of men trying to say whatever they think you want to hear: men trying to be sensual. ewwwwwwwww. sensuality just IS. i don’t need your big, grown ass trying to lick your lips and stare into my face.
this whole ordeal reminds me of that horrible dating show “who’s got the hook up.” (d.c. people, explain yourselves.) ugh! all those wack, ashy dudes trying to be sexy=hot mess. but i totally feel you on trying to bear it long enough to finish the surf and turf….i’ve been there.
@OneChele, I feel like I just watched a tv show and am so embarassed for the characters that I have turned that channel (but I keep flipping back).
@OneChele, LMAO!!! omg, where do these people come from???
@OneChele, Good Lord. I know I’ve done my fair share of cheesy stuff to win a lady over in my day but dayam!
I would have done that for jokes not as a substitute for a Shakespearian sonnet LOL
@T. Troy Stewart,
for sheeezy ninja those are lines ment to be said at mickey d’s not no 4star restaurant lol
@OneChele,
LOL!
“I cannot fathom how Dr. Seuss has ever closed the deal for a brother.”
Maybe he should have chosen another book? Maybe The Cat in the Hat or Are you my mother? lol!
Terrible!
@OneChele, damn, he must have really dug you to have spent five dates worth of cash on you…esp. if his only mission was to get the trim.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
yea i got 3 strikes/3 dates rule.
@OneChele,
LOL I want to go back and re-read this, but I’m still reeling from the first go-round.
Sigh. I agree with Charli, men “trying” to be sexy and sensual is a fail EVERY SINGLE TIME.
@OneChele,
If you had stuck around…the next date, he probably would have hit you with some Bernstein Bears….
@OneChele,
“When he finished, he kissed my palm and said, “Baby I just want to reach you with my mentals.” I laughed so hard, I spit wine all over the place”
I think I would have laughed too.
@OneChele,
@OneChele,
“Brother’s game was tight, I was sipping wine, eating shrimp and whatnot… he reaches across the table, takes my hand and then starts quoting from Green Eggs and Ham.”
*Lil Jon’ Mode* WHAAAAAT?!
LMAO @ that hot boiling mess of a brotha. I mean, WHAT?!
Like what did he do, go to the Sean Pean I Am Sam School Of Impressing Girls? I’m sure you do NOT like his green eggs and ham. You would not eat them, Sam I Am.
I’m still trippin’, though…HUH?! Like, you can’t write this mess in romantic comedies it’s so outrageous. I need to tell people this one. lol
@OneChele,
see… this is a classic example of talkin’ yo’self out of da booty… all he had to do was sit there, shut up, and order more wine.
@SouthernCharm,
i have a homie that is notorious for talkin himself outa some puss. i be like ninja jus shut up n show her ya six pack and she’ll let u hit.
@OneChele,
OMG this SLAYED me.
**six feet under with a Bible and some Jack**
@OneChele, this might honestly be one of the funniest things i’ve ever heard in my life.
to quote dr. Seuss with conviction and sincerity to another grown ass person in attempts to show your depth.
that’s something even i wouldnt do for kicks. and i used to practice game on chicks in the mall. find a chick by herself and just try some off the wall game to see if it works.
kind of like how a comedian prepares.
@Panama Jackson,
Yeah, this one always slays. You can NOT make stuff like this up!
I’ve got stories like this by the dozen, I apparently attract the fine but crazy… it’s a gift.
@OneChele, I do have a question…four dates and not one sign of this fool’s Seuss tendencies?
@T. Troy Stewart, no clue, he hid his Seussian tendencies well.
@OneChele,
Dr. Suess is the basis for a lot (too many) rap songs (and wack ass love jones-esque poetry these days). So hey…
Weeeell…
I have this album, haven’t listened to it in years, but i do recall giving the song the side eye when I first heard it. But i think he was just using a lot of words to say that he’d like to get to know a female (and see if they are compatible) before they have sex. Game or not there’s nothing wrong with that to me. Song might be lame but I’d rather hear that than “drop ur draws, bytch and spread ‘em” or some other vulgar a$$ ridiculousness. Whatever happened to romance?
@pgh muse, Song might be lame but I’d rather hear that than “drop ur draws, bytch and spread ‘em” or some other vulgar a$$ ridiculousness. Whatever happened to romance?
Thank you!! The song is def a candidate for the lame category, but I’ve heard lamer and more vulgar. And truth be told, when it reallly comes down to it, if a guy continuously said such lines, I’d probably not trust him. I still think its cute when a guy gets more creative than “ay shawty, what yo name eyuh”.
Although I will take a “fu** wit ya boy” LOL, waddup Shay D!!
@overitinNYC,
LMAO!! Did you go to Spelman??
All the Spelman women I knew got hit with “Ay shawty whut yo name eyuh”
I also think it’s hilarious you will take “F*** wit’ ya boy”. Usually that’s reserved for drunken slumber while makin an exit after you’ve noticed a woman’s eyes lingering too long.
“You can admire…but don’t look too long” (Big Syke voice)
Bond. BlkBond.
@BlkBond, LOL, the “fu** wit ya boy” was more for shay d, though i recognized my penchant for thugs early, and took prevantative measures lol. and nah, i didnt go to spelman, i went to school in va.
the funniest line was when i was in richmond, i guess there aint no type of diversity there so this dude gonna come up to me on some “what the fu** is you??” mess.
did you just ask me wtf am i? RUDE.
*crying*
@overitinNYC,
I LOL’d good and long @ “ay shawty, what yo name eyuh”.
@pgh muse, what happened to romance, black romance, anyway…rap music. Candyman started knockin’ boots, then Wrecks N’ Effect came in for sloppy seconds Knock-N-Boots and by the time H-Town got to them, those boots been knocked all over town and all worn out and soggy on the insides; it was downhill for black romance old school style.
okay that’s not the main reason, but degrading romance like that didn’t help.
@T. Troy Stewart,
dam bruh you takin it back *somebody rocky knockin tha bootz* thas my shiii. naw tha track that was playin when i lost my v was “sho feels dam good ta me when im pushin inside of you” from tha “bout it” soundtrack dam tha memories
@BLUNTBLAZER,
“Pushin’ Inside Of You” sho’ was a great track. And it definitely retains it’s greatness approx. 14 years from its release.
@pgh muse, But i think he was just using a lot of words to say that he’d like to get to know a female (and see if they are compatible) before they have sex. Game or not there’s nothing wrong with that to me. Song might be lame but I’d rather hear that than “drop ur draws, bytch and spread ‘em” or some other vulgar a$$ ridiculousness. Whatever happened to romance?
saying that we should eat salad first while i pretend i really not trying to jump you like a snow leopard is romantic?
what i find most interesting about this comment is how so many women, on this site in particular, have said that they’d rather me be upfront about what they want to avoid the games, yet this dude, CLEARLY ON SOME GAME bs, attempts to convince you he’s deep and not just interested in your goodies gets a pass???
no wonder men are so lame…half the time we cant figure out if you all want the truth or just want to hear what you want to hear. that’s why we just keep talking…
…cuz women just like to hear voices.
@Panama Jackson,
“…cuz women just like to hear voices”
End Post.
@Panama Jackson,
after this you may as well just shut down the site. What else needs to be said?
(i may get in trouble when my girl reads that)
@Panama Jackson,
Yep, pretty much sums it all up. Although if we want to generalize things (not sayin’ it’s cool and shyt) but, we can just say women are crazy.
Monk does not endorse generalizations, but there are truth to them.
@Panama Jackson, “half the time we cant figure out if you all want the truth or just want to hear what you want to hear.”
I actually think that they want for what they want to hear to actually be the truth. Hwich is crazy.
@Omar, is it crazy though?
@Panama Jackson,
I don’t disagree with you. Not at all… but unless a woman is really naive then she knows that the man she’s dating wants to screw her eventually- and if she’s dating him and actually allowed the date then she has contemplated some interest in him — it’s just figuring out where he’s at with it. Women like to be wooed. I mean dude can keep it real no doubt and in the song he did – he said he’d like to get physical but wants to eat some salad with the chick first and have a conversation. Why does that come across as such boolshyt?
@Panama Jackson, you dont have to bs me, but you dont have to tell me how you want to jump me like a snow leopard either.
a middle ground can be found.
@ pgh muse
agreed that this song’s particular lyrics may be CORNY as all get out, but it’s the big picture that matters: we are not all video vixens and venus hottentots. and nor should men expect that. some healing needs to happen in our community so we can fully worship and respect one another’s spirits.
and, i don’t care what anyone (i.e. Panama) says, the end is BEAUTY-FULL!
“She’s love
she’s truth
she’s real,
as real as the stars that shine in the heavens
as real as the sun that bathes her body,
as real as the moon that glows and the birds that sing and the rose
that blossoms in spring for she is that rose
and not just any rose,
oh, but a black rose,
black rose that stands taller and stronger
than any other plant
A black rose, that stands as creator,
of nations
a Black rose
that never loses her petals,
and blossoms all year round
black rose,
sweet rose,
thornless rose,
ETERNAL rose
please look my way,
please look my way
Please look my way
Black rose”
@LadyPolitik,
I wanted to boo that dude. That’s like dudes running around calling you all “queens” all day. When someone refers to me as “your highness” I guess I can soften up to the concept.
@LadyPolitik,
Ya know, when you write it out like that, this ish IS beautiful. Maybe it’s the delivery? Or the deliverer? *shrug*
@LadyPolitik, i’m pretty sure i wrote a poem like that one day…
roses are black, so are you
i’d like for us to make it do what it do
and do you know that sh*t works 98 percent of the time…
@Panama Jackson,
lolololol yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah*gucci mane voice*
@BLUNTBLAZER, gucci likes to hit women. no more, gucci! and trust me, i liked randomly yelling it out,lol.
aye!
@LadyPolitik,
First, yep, I agree.
I understand what you’re saying but if a dude is just spittin’ that shyt cause he (generally speaking) just wants to F*CK, does that really make you feel better with “giving it up”?
Are you ignoring other factors?
And really? The whole “our community” should be doing this and that but, this isn’t a Black issue if you ask me (assuming you’re Black).
@Monk,
as for making me feel better about who I share myself with – that decision is made on a case by case basis (depends on what i’m looking for when i wake up that morning).
but, if this is supposed to be long term and serious, sincerity matters, A LOT. and originality. i don’t want to hear anyone who’s runnin’ around gamin’ people with some plagiarism tryin’ to come off as “original.” you gotta look at the whole person and filter out the fakes from the true gems.
i’m curious, what factors do you have in mind that i may be missing?
as for directing messages solely targeted at our community (and yes, I am Black and Proud!) i was talking about the wounds specific to our community that are a result of the legacy of disrespect (misogyny, anyone?), fragmented family units, poverty, and crabs in a barrel BS our brothers and sisters have inherited from our tragic yet proud history.
did i miss anything Mr. Monk?
but, yes, all peoples need some healing.
I never liked the song “Mind Sex” because I thought it was corny…
I hate feeling like a man is trying to convince me. Don’t tell me how different you are, show me… I don’t need words.
@Nicki Sunshine,
Truth alert over here…
Bond.
@Nicki Sunshine,
Word. Life.
@Nicki Sunshine,
*snaps in Z-formation*
word.
@Cheekie, *snaps in Z-formation*
i do this ALL the time, lol.
(my name starts with a z, im not corny..well, THAT corny)
@Nicki Sunshine,
Nicki quick question. You don’t want a man to say how different he is because it might be BS. Can’t he just as easily BS you by showing you what you want to see?
@Dorian G., I don’t want him to say how different he is because it’s corny- and there’s just no need.
A man can bs with his words or his actions, it really doesn’t matter…. but the truth will come out in due time.
I was just having a convo with my home boys the other day about how non-Alpha males have to develop some sort of charm or charisma in order to compete in the woo pitchin’ tournament that takes place today. They automatically get discarded because of some superfluous reason and have to overcome whatever aspect about their person in order to make it through to the next round.
But these advances in their evolution are impeded by the asinine examples of the lyrics above. Mind games always seem to have karma attached to them.
just ask my boys. some ninjas never learnOf course this could all be eliminated if everyone just joined eHarmony and found that person just as corny as yourself. lol@Double J,
LOL @ eharmoney.
“non-Alpha males have to develop some sort of charm or charisma in order to compete in the woo pitchin’ tournament that takes place today.”
I kinda agree with this. I feel like men with swagger ( i know folks hate this word) don’t have to spit any game. Women flock to their ntural presence and don’t need the ad lib. It’s when you lack this, you have to come up with something (lame a$$ convo) a woman might want to hear. As a result of it not being natural it comes off corney (i.e. Panamas’s use of the cerebellum).
@Double J,
mind games and karma
-hell yea dont be neyo one day then switch to too short in the mornin tha beeezy gonna want the neyo treatment
Dead Prez huh? Wow.
I’ve actually had the displeasure of seeing them live in concert, and aside from “Hip Hop” the whole set was a mess. They performed the “Mind S*x” song and what a snooze that was. They knew what they were doing too, saved “Hip Hop” for the last song on their set. They know what everyone wanted to hear…lol
Lames? I can’t. When you start talking and I start hearing Charlie Brown’s teacher’s voice, it’s a wrap for you my friend. Straight sham-wow action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUyLwXhqlWU
@miss t-lee, sham-wow is the greatest!
Two things:
Being funny and a good listener always worked best for me.
Mind Sex was/is a great track, however, I liked the WOLVES interlude much more.
I could never, ever be as cool as dude was on Mind Sex on my best day.
@T. Troy Stewart,
“Being funny and a good listener always worked best for me. ”
This DOES work for a lot of chicks, including me.
@Cheekie, a dog, a horse and a possum walk in a bar….
@Cheekie,
yea my folks have a inside joke bout laughin tha panties off a chick
@T. Troy Stewart,
That’s why I like you…
I like corny. I will take lame over stupid and/or aggressively stupid and ignorant any day.
Sometimes, it feels like we don’t know what we (women) want. One day, we complain that we are considered “bitches” by the media, and not being “respected” and so on and so forth (cf Drake’s video)… Now there is a song doing the exact opposite, and we complain still?
Miss me with that chick logic.
@Sula, I’m so corny my nickname is He Who Walks Behind The Rows…
@T. Troy Stewart, Mind Sex was/is a great track,
gonna have to disagree with you there, hombre. it’s a terrible track.
and this: I could never, ever be as cool as dude was on Mind Sex on my best day.
you’re alreyad cooler than him…by hanging out on VSB.
@Panama Jackson, I like it for what it did, go against the norm of “smash’n snatch”
and I appreciate that…man, y’all should make a VSB banner or something like a VSB Seal Of Approval or something
@T. Troy Stewart, like Donuts track 2, we’re “workinonit”
Don’t know woman want a lame dude. That is why women are so attracted to bad boys. Because of the daring aspect of them. I think women want a man with two sides. He has to have common sense and street smarts but she also wants him to be able to get down if need be.
I always took the approach of wanting to know the woman first before engaging in other activities. But I would be honest with her about being attracted to her and wanting her in a physical manner. Then let things go from there.
@J Money,
What’s the difference between common sense and street smarts?
Is street smarts knowing where to buy a bag of weed? Or is it knowing how not to get knifed. The latter is common sense, if it’s the former, I wouldn’t want any part with women who placed such high value on that kind of knowledge.
@kamakula, They can be one in the same but different at the same time. Street smarts to me is being aware of your surroundings and knowing how to deal with our people.
Common Sense to me is everyday stuff that someone with a 1/3 of a brain would do.
@J Money,
Do folks with street smarts really know how to deal with other people?
“Street smarts to me is being aware of your surroundings and knowing how to deal with our people.”
Sounds like common sense to me.
@J Money,
Being aware of your surroundings seems like common sense to me. If you’re a white guy walking at 2am deep in the middle of an all black neighborhood, common sense dictates that you do not yell out “hey my n1gga” at the top of your lungs.
How would street smarts play a different role in that situation?
@kamakula, Street smarts would not have in a position like that to begin with. That is where I believe it would come in. It is common sense to us because we know the reaction but to other people it is not that simple. That situation is a little extreme as well.
I think street smarts also go into understanding our culture and the way we do and perceive things. These are not common sense things people learn on an everyday basis. We may know it because we live the life or know people who have but to the outside world it is nonexistent.
Honestly, that song fit with the album and as sappy as it was, actually rocked. Can’t really see the wackness in it. The only portion of it I don’t care for is that cat spitting “poetry” at the end of it. The rap was cool, while his pandering was the shyt that makes me roll my eyes and boo people at open mics. Besides…that song is just a road bump to the song “Happiness” which is one of the best summertime tracks of all time IMHO.
@CPT Callamity, that song is just a road bump to the song “Happiness” which is one of the best summertime tracks of all time IMHO.
I’m going to have to dig this out and listen to this track
Happiness makes me happy!
@CPT Callamity,
Agreed.
@CPT Callamity, Honestly, that song fit with the album and as sappy as it was, actually rocked. Can’t really see the wackness in it.
i can see the wackness from 400 feet away without a monocole, telescope, or the eyes of two fat chicks named bertha.
@CPT Callamity, I’m mad they changed the drums for the album version of “Happiness” instead of sticking with the drums on the original.
After reading some comments from the women I see I need to find more women like the VSS here. Me and my friends talk all the time about how women fall for corny ish. There have been times when I’ve said corny ish just to see a womans reaction. And a lot of the time they fell for the BS. I wish I had a dime for every woman I saw fall for a ninja telling her what she wants to hear. I’ve met some women that will damn near beg you to tell them what they want to hear.
@Humble_One, i’ve come to the conclusion before that women just like hearing men talk.
eitehr that or most women have had THE worst dating experiences ever so anything is a step up.
i like lamp.
@Humble_One, I wish I had a dime for every woman I saw fall for a ninja telling her what she wants to hear. I’ve met some women that will damn near beg you to tell them what they want to hear.
nobody said they seriously want to find their life partner thru a dead prez lyrics. i love writers/poets and am all about the magic of words. i’m not saying the dead prez lyrics are IT, but i appreciated the sentiment. and i really the think the lyrics are what i like, its just a victim of “its not what you say, but how you say it”.
black rose.
I just want to say, damn that salad looks good. 2 hours until lunch… carry on.
@Ivy St.,
I thought it was just me…lol
All men want to get to the same destination: clitoris cove, breast boulevard, and all spots between. Some guys chose less respectable routes to get there.
I am anti-caking, but it does seem to be a prevalent theme with women today–they expect you to pander to them, because most guys do.
Mind sex as a song was on some corny ish—but considering how them ninjas look…I couldn’t even be mad. Ugly ninjas gotta pull out all the stops…”By any means Necessary”, lol…
Bond.
@BlkBond,
“Ugly ninjas gotta pull out all the stops…”By any means Necessary”, lol…”
Too true. They were way less than good looking.
@miss t-lee,
“Too true. They were way less than good looking.”
You weren’t attracted to the dreads, fatigues, and smell of nag champa or body oils?
@Humble_One,
LOL!!! Dreads are cool, but the rest is a no go…
@Humble_One,
I think more than anything, it was the sporadic teeth placement that made me uncomfortable.
@8th Wonder,
iQuit you for ‘sporadic teeth placement’
just pack yo e-sh*t now.
@8th Wonder, That’s what I was about to say!
@8th Wonder,
*spits coffee*
@8th Wonder, I think more than anything, it was the sporadic teeth placement that made me uncomfortable.
LMAO. took a risk and showed very visible signs of not giving a fuq at the office.
@miss t-lee, but were they 3s? as a noted scholar and 3, i never had to resort to such f*ckery to woo the opposite sex.
in fact, i often just walked into a room, pointed a chick, then made the “will you give me dome” motion, gave her the, “will you?” shoulder shrug and that’s how i bagged most of my chicks in college.
works 7 out of 10 times. the other 3 might result in jail time, however, those 7 times made it all worth it.
@Panama Jackson,
You’re on a roll today sir…lol
@Panama Jackson,
That’s a hot, steamy mess right there.
So do you just know Supahe@d’s itinerary like that or your peeni just got built in GPS?
@BlkBond,
“I am anti-caking, but it does seem to be a prevalent theme with women today–they expect you to pander to them, because most guys do. ”
Exactly. Some women act as if there is something wrong with you if you don’t cake. It’s to the point now that if you are really being genuine it doesn’t matter because it’s what they expect anyway.
@Humble_One,
It’s also called entitlement and it’s creating dozens of perpetually single women, daily.
@CPT Callamity,
That right there….that ish right there….is the gospel!
:::Holy Ghost dancing like George Jefferson:::::
Bond.
@CPT Callamity,
co-sign and loan payment.
@CPT Callamity,
Hilarious… but sadly so true.
@CPT Callamity,
Luvs it.
LMAO….
First off sex is about 90% mental maybe even moreso.
Lameness tho is the anti-weTtt…I”ll give you a much better much wetter example in Hip Hop..Eric B and Rakim’s “Whats on your mind”, this song is pretty much about courting, getting to know someone and establishing true intimacy=(closeness, trust) etc BEFORE anything physical goes down. Dude really wants to know whats on her mind, where her head at, who she is……..
2nd verse
“About a week went by and I called her, “Hello”
I said yo, can I speak to, um, she said no
Hey yo, I know I didn’t call, I didn’t wanna stress you
Go out my way to impress you, press to undress you
See I wanna get to know you so I can show you
What a strong relationship can grow to
But you gotta trust me and you’re gonna love me
Squeeze the phone and hug me, use your mind to rub me
Now how does it feel when my mental, massage ya temple
Telephone’s hot from the vibes that I sent you
Now tell me your inner thoughts and deepest emotions
Next you see ectacy’s explosions
Now I’m coming to see you to spend some time
I’m a romantic warrior but is it a crime
And if you hide your feelings and they hard to find
I wanna know whats on your mind, (I wanna win girl)”
Now this is very much where its at, so hard to find tho LOL
@OrangeStar616, you know, i think i have a problem when dudes use the word “mental” when hollering at women.
i think that’s it. it seems like a redflag phrase to me.
but if you’re going to use that route, you also have to use other words like, “righteousness” “spiritual” “reality”
you know, deep words.
@Panama Jackson,
just string ‘em all together and trick her into thinking you’ve got the dope deepness
eg. “black soul water reality righteous spirit mental connection iwannagetthepannies”
@BlackBerry Molasses, LMAO
and
Panama yeah its getting to be now-a-days ……but you know that song old skool… LOL…. the overall point was the sentiment…. but yeah if some dude rolled up me tryna be all metaphysical and philosophical without really saying sh*t yeah he’d get the mean o_O
Sincerity is a beautiful thing….. just be yourself….. let your actions do the talking, words are very cheap anyway
This reminds me of a convo I had with a male homie of mine regarding, Common’s “Come Close”.
He said it was corny, I thought it was sweet. Maybe the video hooked me (teetering on the brink of lame, I know) But in the end when you realize why he’s showing her pictures in front of her window I had to let out an “Aaawww”. Just one though
Boho Decepticon niggs (cleverly named above) always remind me of Shazah (spelling?) from a Different World. GTFOHWTBS
and met two Shazah’s in college. One we aptly nicknamed Black Jesus, lookin like the black Jesus painting erbody’s grandma had with the locks.and I don’t even like locks. Dude was that fine.
We later called Lucifer after word leaked out about his not-so-Mother-Africa-Spiritual ways wit his MANY women.
@AngelicNastyness,
OMG I remember Shazzah!
I met a couple of them types too. Usually beautiful to look at and reeking of Nag Champa and rockin’ man-dals, constantly commenting on the superior beauty of the black woman (probably the only true statement they will make to you).
They are never to be trusted. Think they slick.
@BlackBerry Molasses,
And one of his ladies was white!! NTTAWWT
@AngelicNastyness, HAHAHA at Shazzah! Too funny.
Before you hate too hard on “Come Close” (I’m similarly ambivalent about it), remember that Common hit us off with “The Light” before that. Seemed way more authentic. In my head Come Close shoulda been called “My Half-Hearted Attempt at The Light, pt. 2″
@Sheffield Swats,
Because I agree that The Light is untouchable!
@Sula,
Random but I always liked Come Close better. I found the hook on The Light slightly irritating. The timbre of his voice (yea I took a few music classes) turned me off.
Not that Mary’s did much for me either but I just liked the melody more. . .oh well
@AngelicNastyness,
I actually like the timbre of the voice of the singer… Or maybe I am not being totally objective about The Light since it has such a special place in my heart.
@AngelicNastyness, “come close” was corny. the video wasn’t. the video was actually really cute and creative.
but that song was cleary an attempt to pull “righteous b*tches” as common has called them.
@Panama Jackson,
neva heard tha song without sein the video. Wonder if it would have the same vibe if i jus heard it……….naw the video has stained that song that video is tha shiii plus he had the muscle car
@Panama Jackson,
Wasn’t “Come Close” in his Crochet pants wearing days? I can’t blame him for that Erykah but the Badu on him…
…sh1t could’ve happened to anybody.
@Omar, lol…you’re right.
and i’m almost sure he had on corduroy pants on in this video and pepole in the background had on shorts and wifebeaters.
@AngelicNastyness,
“Boho Decepticon niggs” <<< COMICAL!!! And don't mess around and be a Natural chick. You'll d@mn near choke on all that musk oil while they look deep into your eyes (his will be bleary) and try to pontificate the panties off ya…
@bittersweet’s baby,
LOL @pontificate on the panties.
I love rarely used words. My friends think I’m tryin to stunt when I say such things but I seriously enjoy using SAT words in non-SAT contexts. such as above.
I found my e-home
Another fav, doppelganger.
@AngelicNastyness,
Don’t get me started! I’m quite the fan of words and under-used phrases. If I can stop in more often, I’ll leave a gem lying around every now and again.
Eh, I dunno.
Like I said earlier, I met and hung with (read: enjoyed herbal refreshments and libations with) M-1 back in 2001. They were still riding “Hip Hop” and were riding on that “Mind Sex” thing pandering to militant college girl pannies across the nation. Whatever works… they had good shyt with them and I was a broke college student… but I digress.
At first, I did find the song interesting, but I think it was a case of Jumpin on the Bandwagon. I realized that Little Brother was speaking that truth. Its ALL game. So from then on, dudes that came with that ‘black queen/lover of souls/vulcan mind meld’ crap got the immediate side-eye.
I’ve been “mind f*cked” a time or two and really enjoyed it. The thing was, they weren’t playing that sappy ish like the lyrics in Mind Sex. True “mind sex” comes when two people find truly experience that spark that doesn’t originate in the nether regions… ok, maybe it does, but it is fueled by a strong mental and spiritual vibe. It can happen over time (which can lead to lasting fulfilling relationships) or it can happen in one night by a chance meeting where you spend all night talking and wondering if you should just shut up and get to bidnezz already. **has flashbacks– calms self with coffee**
@BlackBerry Molasses,
*side-eye*
And you know why, lmao. SADDOWN.
@8th Wonder,
*slinks away to go SADDOWN and think about her lifespace. Again.*
@8th Wonder, *side-eye*
And you know why, lmao. SADDOWN.
LMBAOROFL.
rude.
@BlackBerry Molasses,
Okay this whole comment had me cracking up. I feel ya though!
@BlackBerry Molasses, I’ve been “mind f*cked” a time or two and really enjoyed it. The thing was, they weren’t playing that sappy ish like the lyrics in Mind Sex. True “mind sex” comes when two people find truly experience that spark that doesn’t originate in the nether regions… ok, maybe it does, but it is fueled by a strong mental and spiritual vibe. It can happen over time (which can lead to lasting fulfilling relationships) or it can happen in one night by a chance meeting where you spend all night talking and wondering if you should just shut up and get to bidnezz already. **has flashbacks– calms self with coffee**
i totally agree. as long as all parties agree that its just game, then cool. but dont pretend like you’re this deep vessel who’s above just the physical. most men couldnt care less about your mind when we’re ready to bone. we want to talk later…
…while you’re cooking for us.
@Panama Jackson,
…while you’re cooking for us.
and RIGHT THERE is the f*ck up I talked about in comment thread 27. All good up until that point. LMMFAO.
@BlackBerry Molasses, The Arsonist…checking in for duty.
Wow! I think Panama was looking at my Recently Played list last night because I was listening to Dead Prez (Turn Off the Radio, not Mind Sex) and Little Brother. Anywho…I’m light weight dealing with someone who CLEARLY wants the bidness but insists he wants to get to know me better and build a friendship first. I wouldn’t call it lame, but I’m giving him strong side eye b/c I don’t know if he means what he says, or if that’s just his M.O. for impressing women. I hope it’s the former. *sigh*
@Voiceofreason, time will tell if dude is sincere, along with his actions on a CONSISTENT basis…….
see it for it is at all times tho, not what you want it to be, could be etc
@OrangeStar616,
Yeah, I’m just letting him reveal himself slowly but surely.
@Voiceofreason, I wouldn’t call it lame, but I’m giving him strong side eye b/c I don’t know if he means what he says, or if that’s just his M.O. for impressing women. I hope it’s the former. *sigh*
if he’s ever told you he wants to get to know your “mental” he’s just trying to wax philosophical so that he can wax your tropicals.
i’m starting to think that the word “mental” really just means p*ssy.
@Panama Jackson,
He essentially expressed he wants to wait until we know each other better before he tries anything. I could be wrong, but that makes me think he’s gonna try something regardless. The getting to know me part is what will make him decide whether or not he wants to pursue a relationship.
@Voiceofreason,
yea thas why i jus say whats on my mind when you get to that “start sumthin point” where ya both want it but both is to shy to ask for it. shiiiii i used this line on sun night
scene-layin down fully clothed lookin at eachother
“action”
me- *cheeeeeesin like im fresh from the dentist*
her- wha?
me- nuthin jus thinkin bout sumthin
her- wha?
me- nuthin *cheesin even harder n sexier(chanellin my inner denzel)*
her- please tell me *lookin you dead in the eye*
me- i wanna be inside you hella bad
boom her legs open we get ta kissin n touchn n fuqin
@BLUNTBLAZER,
D@mn! Not the inner Denzel!
@Voiceofreason,
I know! That inner Denzel is the killah! That lazy eye is the sword to my heart.
@BLUNTBLAZER,
I swear I can’t stand you.
@BLUNTBLAZER, I don’t know why but this literally made me ctfu. dang. i hope u didn’t just meet this woman.
@BLUNTBLAZER,
dumb as shyt. BWAH!
@BLUNTBLAZER, because of you, i’m no longer hired, my boss say i been fired.
on to tha next…(comment)
ps) i hate you
I absolutely LOVE Little Brother…thanks for mentioning them!!
As far as a corny dude I think that there is such a thing as over kill. Although it is kind of refreshing and somewhat flattering to have a guy put some effort into getting IT. It seems that the attitude today is that everything comes easy & fast. It used to be that you meet a guy and he asked you out on a date. Now when I meet dudes and they ask if they can come to my house…WTH!!!
I am a woman that likes to be courted and I enjoy the sweet talk. It makes you feel kind of giggly and womanly instead of like a piece of meat. I was one of few girls in my family so I’d hear my uncles & male cousins sweet talking the ladies. They’d use all kinds of slick sayings. I thought they were funny and the women always responded favorably. Yeah they were pimps LOL but you could tell it made the women feel a certain way. I’d rather hear “GIRL YOU GOT THEM BABY MAKING HIPS” than “DAMN YOU FAT AS SH*T”. But that’s just me!
@Yaa,
lol, you’ve heard someone say “girl you fat as ish” as some type of compliment?!
Bond.
@BlkBond,
“lol, you’ve heard someone say “girl you fat as ish” as some type of compliment?!”
They didn’t even add, “And that’s with a P-H” at the end of it?
Which is still lame, by the way.
@Cheekie,
i told my girl she was so thick her ash hada shadow.lol. it was true tho dam thas my 95%r rit thea
@Yaa,
you’ve heard someone say “girl you fat as ish”? Was that a compliment or motivation to use that Bally’s membership he purchased as a Christmas present
Bond.
@BlkBond, in reference to my BEEEEHIND lol. Sorry it’s a DC thing. PHAT…not FAT.
@Yaa, @BlkBond,
I was thrown when I heard some young’n throw that at some woman. Then I started hearing ” (blank) as sh!t” and understood.
@BlkBond,
I’m guessing she meant phat.
*crossing fingers*
@8th Wonder, LOL. Yup.
@Yaa, “GIRL YOU GOT THEM BABY MAKING HIPS”
that’s the name of my next single. actually, im not joking. i just released a song called “sexxy two piece”
lol. its from my album as mr. oh so sexxy called “im so sexxy, i cant help but be sexxy”
@Panama Jackson, RETARDED…oops MENTALLY CHALLENGED LOL!
LMFAO @ croutons. It reminds me of that episode of the Cosby Show when Cliff took all the kids to this fancy restaurant and Kenny (aka Bud) fronted like he was used to classy joints such as that one and when he ordered a salad he was like, “No Croutons, please” only he pronounced the “out” part like the word “out” not like “oot”. Cracked my ish up forever.
But that has nada to do with today’s topic. This, however, does:
“Let me just say upfront, I HATE it when men get to pandering to women in order to make themselves seem like they’re not like every other man.”
I agree! I hate qualifiers and disclaimers like that period. If you have to go out of your way to state something about yourself, that usually warrants a side-eye. Sorta like, “Man, I’m so cool, so confident, ninjas always jockin’ my style, etc.”. Um, if you gotta SAY you’re cool, then you’re not. Other folks say it for ya. Bottom line, you can say, say, say ’til the cows come home, but it’s what you actually do that matters. By making a point to state what you’re not, it only brings more attention to it and makes folks think you actually are.
Things is, I don’t want you doing a poetry grand slam on how you are like no other man and how you gon’ treat me right…I want you to just be yourself and show me through your actions. Be natural with it. Giving me a speech about it just seems rehearsed and fake.
@Cheekie, “Um, if you gotta SAY you’re cool, then you’re not. Other folks say it for ya.”
‘zactly.
@Cheekie, Things is, I don’t want you doing a poetry grand slam on how you are like no other man and how you gon’ treat me right…
you’d be amazed at how often that works. i dont think women realize that most of us men are natural rappers.
we speak poetically cuz it comes easy…so that you come easy.
@Panama Jackson,
“you’d be amazed at how often that works. i dont think women realize that most of us men are natural rappers.”
Ha! You’ve proved this with the below:
“we speak poetically cuz it comes easy…so that you come easy.”
Nice.
Now, I make exceptions (you gotta be a BAAAAD brotha to be an exception), but hemming and hawwing about how you “different” gets an immediate side-eye. If you seem worth it, you may get a trial basis. lol And usually, during the trial basis, you prove my gut instinct right.
@Panama Jackson,
I think lots of women realize this. Lots of men do too, and yet they’re STILL too lazy to put in more than minimum effort to get to the moment. When they’d actually find out how easy it may be…
Salad? naw in DC we’ll offer ‘em chicken wings and mambo sauce…
Anyway this is just conscious brown-nosing, that’s all, same sh1t different toilet…
“Is it black girl lost or shorty owe you for ice?” – Jay-Z
… every so often the game gives us some brown nosing-ass rappers or song before it was LL Cool J and more recently it’s Drake.
I guess they’re just following advice…
“If you want to make your money rap for the bitches…” – Tupac
@Omar, that stuff looks good on paper but no woman who has any class or respect for herself is going to let herself go out like a sucka for some dude who treats her like some broad in a rap video unless there’s a big payday down the road for her (see Kelis and that dumb idiot Nas for more details)…
pay attention to all these rappers like Ice Cube, Snoop and Lil Jon…they talk that ish about “bit*hes and garden tools” but look at them when they at home with their wives, none of that bull.
@T. Troy Stewart,
Especially Snoop! His wife runs the show.
@T. Troy Stewart,
hol up cube aint on tha garden tool level
@BLUNTBLAZER, sorry, Ice Cube was more down with the “female dog”.
@T. Troy Stewart,
lol oh yea forgot boyz in the hood “hoes gotta eat to” lol
@T. Troy Stewart,
I almost forgot somebody did go and marry Lil Jon didn’t they, I guess you can buy happiness…
“YEEEAAAAAH” – Lil Jon
@Omar,
“H-WHAT?!!!!!” -Lil Jon
see… this is a classic example of talkin’ yo’self out of da booty… all he had to do was sit there, shut up, and order more wine.
@SouthernCharm, wonder how often men do this?
ladies? estimates?
@Panama Jackson,
they say that a woman knows whether or not she’s going to let you play lickemhighlickemlow within the first 5 minutes of meeting you. YOUR job is to NOT F*CK IT UP.
So… I’d put the conservative estimate at 78.98% of the time.
@BlackBerry Molasses,
5min pick a nig is very true for ninjas i think it only take 3 min.
@Panama Jackson,
I’ma go with 60%.
This:
“I HATE it when men get to pandering to women in order to make themselves seem like they’re not like every other man.”
And:
“You aren’t suppose to lame out on wax.”
are the reasons why there need to be another Million Man March. Too much inappropriate pandering running rampant amongst dudes. Too many dudes compromising theirselves (read: being honest, true to one’s self, and standing behind your personal convictions).
In regards to the music, I grew up on (and still listen to) gangsta rap – a lost genre where cats really said what they felt, no holds barred. Wasn’t not pandering to the ladies who were gonna buy the records more than guys. They just did what they did…and women followed suit. I know tons of women who enjoy the “Sweet Black P*ssy”(Quik), “B*tch Betta Have My Money”(AMG), “A B*tch Iz A B*tch”(Cube), “Ain’t No Fun” (Snoop) and other lovely tunes where men don’t pander to women like that. I still look at some of these supposedly hardcore artists of today a different way when you’re rapping beside Ciara, Ne-Yo, John Legend and the such. Yes, it may be cool music, but pandering to females you are…just to sell records. Sell out.
@Monk,
Don’t forget UGK and the Geto Boys…lmao!!!
@Monk, ahh gangsta rap…the fakest rap genre of them all. chumps from the suburbs spinning ghetto fairy tales about gangbangers and hood life and then going out to make ARE WE THERE YET movies and be Officer Token on Law & Order and only speak about their “hard knock rap lives” when they on VH1 I Love The 90s or on somebody’s talk show…meanwhile, fools in the hood are shooting and killing one another from L.A. to Little Rock just because they liked what they heard on a record.
and you know what’s worse, O’Shea was just like the nig*a in the first verse….
@T. Troy Stewart
“gangsta rap…the fakest rap genre of them all.”
Exactly.
@T. Troy Stewart,
not to say that i don’t agree with you because you have point. there is/was definitely some side eye worthy frontin’ going on but….what ever happened to growth? i forget what rapper it was i heard say this but it made me think. is it really cool to still be rapping (or ONLY rapping) about the crap you USED to do when you’re wearing my entire college/grad career around your neck in a house my whole neighborhood could fit in?
once your lifestyle changes (no longer in the hood, have a wife and kids) is it really wrong to want to do something your kids can watch?
@SouthernGirl, that’s cool about changing once you grow older but my point is, most of them “gangsta” rappers weren’t even from the hood. That’s why I found all this outrage over Rick Ross being some wageslave for the state so funny. He wasn’t the first to play a thug on wax and he’s not even close to being the last…
Had 2520′s glorified stereotypes the way that some of these cats did, we would have been outraged…
@T. Troy Stewart, true. some were and some weren’t. i straight fell out laughing at rick ross though. i’m not even a fan but it was amazing to me how quick he turned that denial around into a ‘yeah, i did it, so what’ situation. but speaking of 2520s remember vanilla ice tried to play that role too.
@T. Troy Stewart,
You’ve been taking your clever vitamins I see!
It’s a good look.
@Monk, Ain’t No Fun is going to go down as one of the greatest songs in the history of musickind.
it’s deep and you got to get into your mental to truly appreciate the righteousness of it all. the fallacy of reality will have you thinking the opposite though.
^^that sh*t was deep.
@Monk,
thas why erychick loves tooshort i neva undastood this still boggles tha mind
@Monk, Yes, it may be cool music, but pandering to females you are…just to sell records. Sell out.
Hmmmm… Monk – I truly have to ask, what is this whole “Pandering” thing that we’re talking about? Making a record that’s not degrading? Making a song about love that isn’t disrespectful… Method Man calls his woman his queen in “You’re all I need to Get By.” Is that pandering? I don’t know any woman who would rather be called B*tch than Queen. Why is showing love and respect to women pandering? I mean, when these men make a record for women they are making a record for the women and… what’s wrong with that? If ur making a song for men then ur making a song for men. It’s not selling out. It’s communicating to two different audiences. Every man walking around out there isn’t thinking that A Bitch is a Bitch and if he is then he has some issues he needs to figure out.
Oh yeah, “Love Jones” is that shyt. And by “shyt”, I mean “bullshyt”.
Thank you.
@Monk, while I wasn’t the biggest LOVE JONES fan, either, I can really appreciate them making a movie that showed us doing more than the usual stuff Hollywood has us doing…and I can’t hate on a movie that used the classic Isley Brothers album THE HEAT IS ON as prop (Sensuality (Part 1 & 2)–you just put that on and start a convo with your lady and it’s soooo on)
@T. Troy Stewart, i always hate those arguments though.
something is positive by not being negative.
that doesnt make it good. just makes it not the normal crap. you can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig.
just ask kermit.
@Panama Jackson, so you can’t respect the attempt even if it’s a fail?
@T. Troy Stewart, nope. though i dont personally hate love jones, i dont think it’s this great movie as other folks do. i dont hate it tho. i used to watch it all the time.
@Panama Jackson,
“you can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig.
just ask kermit.”
Ask, Barry Obama, too. He OWNED Sarah Palin when he said that in reference to her during the elections. lmao
As for Love Jones, I think it’s a feel good movie and VERY sensual, though I agree it is overhyped.
@Monk,
I’ve said it on here more than a few times.
I absolutely loathe Love Jones (the movie).
The soundtrack was hot though!
@miss t-lee, the soundtrack was indeed hot…I saw Hav Plenty last night for the first time in years and I’m surprised that I am still angry about paying to see it in the theater after all these years…
@T. Troy Stewart,
As you should be. I saw it on cable and I was mad I wasted time watching it.
@miss t-lee,
lol. i can’t help it. i know it’s horrible but i still love it. never paid to see it in the theater but i watch it whenever its on.
40 ounces of love, so intoxicating….
@miss t-lee, yeah, as terrible as it was, i watch it everytime it comes on b/c of how bad it is.
its so terrible that its entertaining. its like you got served.
@Panama Jackson, that’s the way I feel about movies like THE CORE and THE TUXEDO
I love the song (shock, I’m in the minority again). I didn’t get the same vibe out of this song. I think of Dead Prez as incredibly confident dudes who are saying “We gonna fvck, but let’s have some 4play this time.” Or it can also be seen as a spin on the, “Yeah, come on up to my place, we don’t even have to fvck” mind game. So for me, when I hear:
How ’bout we start with a salad, a fresh bed of lettuce with croutons
Later we can play a game of chess on the futon
I hear, “Let’s get a snack, sit and chill, then start making moves on the couch.” And just so the woman in the song doesn’t misread him as soft he says, “Before the night’s through, we can get physical too, I’m not trying to say I don’t wanna fvck ‘CAUSE I DO” to reinforce that this is all really just 4play, not some play date at his spot, at night, just the two of them, alone [*In my best Denzel Voice* THIS IS CHESS, IT AIN'T CHECKERS!!!]. Now this song isn’t something you can quote in real life, but as a piece of art the lyrics are a lot better than, “In three years holla at me Miley Cyrus.”
And I know yall love you some Adore by Prince, but if some random cat came up to you on some “If g-d one day struck me blind, your beauty I’d still see, love’s too weak to define, just what you mean to me” you’d laugh in his face too. But maybe you’re saying it’s cool for an R&B singer to say this and not a rapper?
@An Island,
And you know what? That is my reading as well…
I think sometimes there is a “VSB approved cool” phenomenon that occurs… and it looks a lot like bandwagon-ing at times…
@An Island, And I know yall love you some Adore by Prince, but if some random cat came up to you on some “If g-d one day struck me blind, your beauty I’d still see, love’s too weak to define, just what you mean to me” you’d laugh in his face too. But maybe you’re saying it’s cool for an R&B singer to say this and not a rapper?
um, prince wears onesies. and still could bone probably 97 percent of most women he comes into contact with. i’d say prince can say whatever the f*ck he wants.
and for the record, that’s way more genuinely poetic and believable than: With a salad, a fresh bed of lettuce with croutons/Later we can play a game of chess on the futon
See I aint got to get in your blouse/Its your eye contact, that be getting me aroused…
i believe prince would say that to a woman. i do not believe than any self-respecting man would utter dead prez’s gay ass words to a woman. i guess the main point is, dead prez dude needs more people.
@Panama Jackson
I’ve always heard what I want to hear (ask the last couple women I’ve dated), but:
See I aint got to get in your blouse/Its your eye contact, that be getting me aroused…
is incredibly poetic. To me he’s saying the standard, “You have beautiful eyes, let’s fvck” but in a non-standard way. I’m sure I wouldn’t let some other rapper try to get that off (Method comes to mind), but between the beat, that nice dark sistah in the video (who’s moaning throughout), and the overall smooth vibe, I think it’s a cool, one-time song. Now if they were regularly trying to be the rapping version of Prince or the Isley’s, or if this was supposed to be the official script “poet thugs” are supposed to use in the club, I’d have issues.
@Panama Jackson,
i do not believe than any self-respecting man would utter dead prez’s gay ass words to a woman. .
Who utters any of the words that artists say….well at least to get azz? The exception may be Stevie – I just called to say I love you. LMAO.
This conscious bidness is just another hustle. Maybe it’s just me and my analytical self.
Talking to the ladies is like being a QB. You have to read the defense and take what’s given to you. If they are playing zone, then don’t go deep. If they are playing you straight up, then go for the score. The score is ultimately horizontal hokey pokey time, but initially is just so she’ll give you the time of day.
@Stank-0,
Great analogy!
@Stank-0, yeah, that is a great analogy.
@Stank-0,
Any guy who can give a good football analogy is winner in my book;)
So I guess that’s game too right?
Fake Bohemians are the worst a.k.a. fake conscious mf’ers LOL
Tariq Nasheed had me LMAO when he discussed this………
@OrangeStar616,
Yeah, I loathe fake bohemians too!
@CPT Callamity,
Ditto.
A pox on all lame ninjas.
But, I didn’t think Dead Prez was lame, just figured they had to come up with a creative way to get drawers since they really weren’t pulling broads based on their mansions and fly whips. The game is the game.
@Big Man, the game is the game. but the game is also to be sold and not to be told. especially if it makes you look like a p*ss-a** ninja for eternity.
Oh em gee now I want salad.
I find the phrase “you wanna make out?” to be shockingly effective. No idea why. It seems idiotic on face value, but I’ve never known it to fail.
@Brandon St. Randy, I believe in simplicity. That’s actually how I first got with my husband. Well, not quite. I just said, “hey, you wanna have sex?” His answer was “yes, sure!” Seven years later, we still puke at that poetry seduction bull-ish.
I had too many men try that “hey sista, let’s talk about some poetic mathematics and eat at Soul Vegetarian”. It usually ends with him stringing words together that he barely understands and trying to sway me on curry tofu over curry goat. I like simple. And meat.
(I do have a caveat: he might actually be an excellent poet and not a poseur at all. I’ve had ONE guy read me his poetry while I napped on his couch and it was good. So good I forgot about the nap. )
@madam_ori,
“That’s actually how I first got with my husband. Well, not quite. I just said, “hey, you wanna have sex?” His answer was “yes, sure!” Seven years later, we still puke at that poetry seduction bull-ish. ”
So, ya’ll not a fan of subtext, huh? lol
I don’t know about dead prez, but that salad, can get it anytime
. Lol. But mind sex is corny, cause they were ugly. Cause everybody knows pretty boys can say anything they want cause they are a pretty and it’s expected. Pretty boys equal lame by default. Soo…they can’t get away with it. Smh…it’s ashame that dudes really think that boo sheet work too. Wonder why they get stuck wit cheesy females. Cause you a cheesy *ss frito layed *ss ninja!
@collegebunni,
If the croutons were a fine auss man…I would “go”…HARD! lol
This is how the BLUNTED ONE WOULD SPIT IT
-you on my phoneline/all the time/ buyin ya guy/ that lime green/ im so grindy/ an ya eyes/ always shiney/ so sparkly/ blindin me/ socializing/ winein and dinein/ my queen/ convos always live/ and u serious about life / and you want 4 kids yea that would be about right/ we gettin old i think its about time/ viva las vegas wanna drive or fly/ its only 45 in the sky/ but ta change a playas mind/takes an amazin dime/ erase ya last name and take mine/ say our lines/ seal it with a kiss and a diamond/ ya neva forget who im is/ got ya back like ya spine/ im wit ya in tha night time/ gave up my life of crime/ well jus a lil bit/ cause ya kno i always gotta get lit/and u right there with the spliff onya lip/ then my stick trades places with the spliff/
from “WETTAdendaPACIFIC”
@BLUNTBLAZER, um….have you ever went over a friends house to eat/and the food just aint no good/i mean the macaroni’s soggy the peas are mushed/and the chicken tastes like wood?
@BLUNTBLAZER, since we’re all rapping…
girl look at your a**, your a** is so phat*
in case you didn’t know, i really want to hit that
but before i do, let’s go read some bible verses
watch little house on the prairie, and wash come clothes first-es
girl you make me thirsty, i just want to drink you
but i dont want you to think that i just wanna give you the finger
i mean i do, but that’s not all, i just wanna love ya
get to know your kids, and even the names of your baby fathas
and when its time to slobber, all over eachother’s necks
i’ll make sure that you know, that i really like your legs
they’re long like the nile, and i really wanna smile
open up things gonna get easier…yes yes ooooh chile
but girl i like your mental, dont need no instrumental
i just need some candles, to paper clips and some scentals
i dont eat no lentils, but that ain’t even my point
i just want to let you know that girl, i’d smoke you if you were a joint
that’s the kind of love i’ll give, cuz i respect your mind
now please i’m feeling froggy, i’d like to jump you from behind
yeah, that’s my rap for the ladies.
*that first line was taken from Phonté and their The Story of U.S. limited edition pressing mixtape from YEARS ago
@Panama Jackson,
hahaha good shiii predictable but good multitalented huh
@Panama Jackson,
LOL! at “first-es”
reminds me of Too Short’s “no this ain’t a test-us”
lol
@Panama Jackson, LMAO @ scentals, first-es, and lentils. you need hayseuss!
@BLUNTBLAZER,
and u right there with the spliff onya lip/ then my stick trades places with the spliff/
I was waiting for a reference to the medulla oblongata…it almost ALWAYS comes up whenever a rapper is talking about fellatiotic activites. Oh well…maybe the next rap. lol
@K to the…,
eva got head ina dark room watchin tv lol when the head is bobbin in front of tha tv it has a kinda strobelite effect lol
@BLUNTBLAZER,
LMAO! I’m a female…so I can’t say that’s what I saw when someone has french kissed the nether-lips!
@BLUNTBLAZER,
I’m still one of those people that thinks rap and romance don’t mix well, so I’mma have to go with this:
“Excuse me miss
But what’s your name
Where are you from and can I come
And possibly, can I take you out tonight”
word to Luther’s curl.
@Omar,
“Excuse me miss
But what’s your name
Where are you from and can I come
And possibly, can I take you out tonight”
I think this works the best. Unless said in
Joe CamelJay-Z voice a la the “Excuse Me Miss” rap song. Maybe he shouldn’t kill auto-tune in situations such as that…@Cheekie,
LMAO @
Joe CamelYou will not talk about my fellow December 4th-ian…and make me laugh that hard. Darn you Cheekie!!!
@BLUNTBLAZER, and u right there with the spliff onya lip/ then my stick trades places with the spliff/
i saw that one coming, predictable! lol. you aint have no scentals, no lentils, or green eggs and ham.
put me down down for panama lol, keep blazin!
A great woman told me once that men look for what they want in different women, and women want all those differences in one man.
A ni99a gotta be gentle and gangsta, a good worker and entrepreneurial hustla, extra patient for the draws and a horny beast when its time, a good girlfriend and a dominant alpha male, all at the same time.
@Dorian G.,
“a good girlfriend ”
???
No.
@miss t-lee,
What else you call someone you trying to have 3 hour phone convos with, and ask to go shopping with you?
@Dorian G.,
Shopping? I got homegirls for that, come on.
@miss t-lee,
lol. Yeah, if a ninja goes shopping with me without protest? Suss.
@Dorian G.,
A ni99a gotta be gentle and gangsta, a good worker and entrepreneurial hustla, extra patient for the draws and a horny beast when its time, a good girlfriend and a dominant alpha male, all at the same time.
Preach that gospel. Women are on some ordering their perfect men type sh*t, I sometimes can not understand…
@Sula,
Lol you right. Women do want it all.
If I could combine the 5 guys I talked to into one. Perfect. LOL
Their powers combine create Captain PLANET!
the power is yours.
Wise woman once told me, “he ain’t gotta be perfect just find the make and model you want and customize.” Throw some D’s on it. Pimp ya ride. Make sure you get his regularly scheduled maintenance, shine him up and hit the road.
@Sula, and you know what’s worse, they don’t think they have to do nothing but show up with the vagina…
@Dorian G.,
Nowadays a dude has to be Tupac in a suit.
@CPT Callamity,
*nods*
Croutons are getting men the panties these days? My sistergirls have fallen off.
As far as “Mind Sex” goes, I think if all of this takes place on the night homie is trying to get it IN, it’s lame. Esp. if he’s on some, i Heart Warcraft and Weed during 98% of his day and 2% “You are the rib to my cage” ish the next. Now, if I know the guy, and know his personality and he’s not tipping the scale into either Mandal nor Whack Loser territory, it depends.
But for the most part, no. Hell no. Lame doesn’t even have to involve salad fixings and Mother Africa, it’s just the DNA makeup of certain men. Because, come on…don’t all men want sex? And won’t most men say whatever it is that comes to mind to get said sex?
P.S. Thanks for the welcome and s*it yesterday!
In addition to the song being wack the video was horrible and unrealistic. An inmate is summoned by the warden and he sees his “woman” and rather than indulge in a conjugal visit he would rather have mind sex and OR he qualifies his preference for mind sex because he can’t have any actual sex?
I digress…
I am young and certainly was not up on the dead prez band wagon, however I did hear that song for the first time a couple of years ago (my second year of college). I cringed when I heard the lyrics…why? Because as Panama eloquently put it, it was LAME. I skipped to the next song on the itune play list. Sure I would love to feel adored mentally and feel as though I am some one’s Nubian queen, but mind sex much like actual sex should not feel lame and awkward. I have been able to spot the dudes who are trying to have the mind sex so as to appear as if they are Huey P. Newton type of brothers trying to get some black panther, I have given them many a side eye.
Keep in mind, the “nani” has flooded the market. Females are giving it away like Argentine Pesos back in 1989. I mean the arse has completely lost its value. Or maybe, its just that a brotha hit them damn thirties and now I want a lil substance along with the booty.
But I dig the concept of Mind Sex and I have to defend it to a degree. I know now that there IS value in being attracted to a woman in other ways. In fact, if a woman has no conversation and no vision… I’ll pass on the booty everytime. (At least now I will!) Why?
1. Because, if I look hard enough… I can find one with the look, the the convo, the mind, and the values that I’m looking for anyway. (And the search for that is half the fun!)
2. Because I’m kinda scurred I’ma get spreeznung on a vacuous vixen and have some dumb arse kids, I weed them out from the get-go.
3. How can I find a woman that will make me a perfect companion, partner and a better man… if my selection criterion 1-10 are: Face… check, rack… check, waist… check, arse… check, legs… check, feet… check, smile… check, weave/wig… check, bedroom prowess… check, mental health… check?
To me… Convo, vision, outlook, desires, values ought to fit in the equation somewhere right? So why not prior to the drawls??? That’s not a lame end-around on the booty, I can get that anyway. I see it as the interview process to weed out cadidates that lack what I need.
Am I trippin?
@LouKane, Totally agree with you…(well i’m a female so I’m agreeing from a female perspective) as reflected, sort of, in my comment below yours…somehow I didn’t see your comment before I wrote my own or I would have just cosigned and not bothered with all that typing. The concept of the song is good. And there’s nothing wrong with looking for more in a person than, to quote a friend “smashability,” before smashing. I don’t see why that is lame at all.
@klysha,
Thanks for the co-sign.
But I went back and listened to the song again… Dude did lay it on way too THICK! But again, the concept is valid. While “smashability” is good, it’s definitely not everything!
I want so badly to comment on this topic, but my thoughts are all over the place. I also haven’t actually heard mind sex…actually I think I have but not recently enough to know how I feel when I hear the song. And that would be the deciding factor. Because it isn’t so much the words that a ninja uses when he’s trying to spit game at me it’s how it comes across when he says them. Now if a guy came at me and said all that stuff in the song I’d think he was laying it on a little too thick and I’d see right through it. But if a guy came at me on what came across as some genuine I want to get to know you stuff I might go for it (or fall for it depending on how you look at it).
Anyway I am not mad at Dead Prez’s attempt at coming at women a different way. Yeah all that extra wordage comes across as a little lame but it’s a song and he had to say something or there wouldn’t be any lyrics. It’s unfortunate that a guys attempt at addressing a woman as more than a piece of booty is immediately labled as lame and not keeping it real. So does that mean that the reality is that in guys eyes women are just walking talking pieces of a$$.
Ah ha I just figured out what my point was! Women do want men to be honest with them about what they want. But women (read … me) honestly want men to want to get to know them. So a guy just saying all that stuff to get the drawers when they could care less about getting to know you is lame. But a guy honestly wanting to get to know you and saying something honestly to reflect that is not lame.
I get tired of being approached as nothing more than a piece of booty. If I’m giving up my precious jewels I want to feel like there’s at least a chance of there being more to the relationship than a booty exchange. While giving up the booty for booty givings sake can be fun it’s also very empty. Maybe I’m lame but I’m at a point where I’d rather have an actual connection when I’m giving it up to somebody. I have toys for when an empty O is good enough.
I was really feeling Dead Prez for a while, good thing I never heard that song. There are lame females in the world just like men. Two examples of lame females are are;
-The “I only have sex when I’m in a realationship” chick: Ok, you ve been in 6 realationships this year.
-The “I only date thugs” chick: Have fun requesting love songs to your inmate boo on the radio.
Lol. When I was reading this I was thinking “It’s just a song…chill” but I see what you are getting at. It’s funny because I’ve been on this song for the last couple of days and suddenly here it pops up in your post. && Yah I actually like all that lovey-dovey ish… granted that he’s not just saying it to get to the nana.