Theory & Essay

the king and me: what michael jackson's death says about us

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admittedly, i haven’t been as affected by mj’s sudden death as most others seem to be. while i’m saddened by his untimely end, the news registered with me more in a “damn. someone famous as f*ck just died!!” sense than a “he was a part of my life” sense.

(in fact, when my girlfriend first texted “m.jackson just died” to me, i assumed she was referring to “mark jackson“, which strangely made me feel a little worse than the actual truth)

despite this relative detachment, i’ve been mesmerized and amazed by the consensus public reaction to this news, and, by “the consensus public reaction to this news” i totally mean “the way we’ve, in our odd competition to be the best and most sincere at memorializing him¹, completely glossed over how f*cked up the last 25 years of his life were hawk the slayer online download

mind you, i’m not attempting to throw more salt on michael jackson’s star-crossed life. if that were my goal, i’d merely spend 600 words juxtaposing his career, social, and public perception arc with r. kelly’s (they’re much, much, much, much, much more identical than you’d probably like to believe)

still, when a person has been…

a) defined by their abject weirdness for 90% of their adult life,

b) a lazy punchline for 50% of their adult life,

and

c)

a suspected ***insert word that rhymes with “ghettopile”*** for a third of that time period

…i dont see how you can’t at least acknowledge this exaggerated freakishness when putting their legacy in context.

mj aside, his situation sheds a bit more light on the perception phenomenon discussed yesterday. while we don’t have definitive control over how we’ll be remembered, we can control what we remember about everyone else. you can even argue that our conscious choice to only recognize the positive aspects of a person’s life is our most desperate hope that this same luxury is extended to us.

thing is, whether you view this type of projection as practical or pathetic, you can’t argue the fact that there’s no bigger affront to what makes us fully human and no more disingenuous way to recall a person’s life…especially when you consider that our deeds usually come from the exact same place as our demons.

this is supremely true in regards to celebrities. the same visceral fervor that made tupac iconic basically killed him before his 26th birthday, and the hyper creative eccentricity that made mike moonwalk also contributed to his multiple self-mutilations, arrested development, and early death.

omitting these facts actually downplay and dishonor their accomplishments. there’s no such thing as an adversity-less icon. how can you fully appreciate malcolm x without being completely aware of malcolm little, and what future relevance would “black or white” hold without knowing that the song’s architect was actively attempting to be both black and white

i realize that this isn’t the most popular line of thinking, that some will see this as (at best) tactless and (at worst) malicious, and that its (extremely) presumptuous to tell someone how they should remember a person.  still, this isn’t about michael jackson as much as my fascination with our peculiar reliance on technicolor memories. i just happen to prefer HD.

you know, with all this being said, i still hope that the half-page obit in the pittsburgh post-gazette honoring my (eventual) passing chooses not to include a half paragraph burb on my (future) infidelities and (present) p*rn addiction. lol, i guess i’m not so special after all.

yeti curse of the snow demon movie download on second thought… it might not be the worst thing in the world. at least it’d show i was human, and i think mike would have wanted the same thing.

—the champ

¹despite my general antipathy for BET, i can’t help but defend them in regards to their substandard tribute to michael jackson during their awards show. mj died on a thursday, and, from my understanding, the awards were filmed early saturday. when you consider the hours of inactivity after the initial shock of hearing the news, they probably only had 12-20 hours to tackle the logistic nightmare of preparing a proper tribute. plus, the three people most well equipped to pull this off were either in europe, banned for busting rihanna’s ass,  or the person responsible for effectively ending janet jacksons career. as long as they promise to never air baby boy ever again, BET gets a mulligan from me
Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a contributing editor for EBONY.com. He resides in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes.

  • iloVEGrits

    Once again, Champ, very well done.

    I don’t think the media has glossed over Michael’s past…they’ve brought up the surgeries, the accusations of child molestation, the weird behavior, all of that.

    The common person, though, has allowed their love for the man’s music to cause them to ignore or deny the fact that he was, without a doubt, a disturbed individual. But I suspect that these are the same people who didn’t believe the accusations in the first place and, for whatever reasons, didn’t let MJ’s forever changing face and fading star dim their love for his music. They ‘loved’ him, regardless. And I don’t think his death has so much caused them to forget the bad: I think they didn’t even accept the bad when he was living.

    It’s sad thought that, even in death, his life is a spectacle.

    • An Uninspired Muse

      @iloVEGrits,
      Maybe he means how everyone…and I do mean everyone, who has been on TV acting like they just had Sunday brunch with this mofo or like that wasnt them talking about the child molestation cases like MJ TOTALLY showed up with kids underroos in his back pocket (Geraldo Rivera, Im LOOKIN at you brother.)

      Let me post some real mess in a min….

      • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

        @An Uninspired Muse,
        on the real tho one of the kids that accused mike jus came foward and said his dad made him lie jus so he could get 20 mill.

        • http://mysixcents.wordpress.com klysha

          @BLUNTBLAZER, thank you for pointing that out…yeah it looked bad for Mike because he admitted to sleeping with children on television but it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Mike was exploited for his eccentricity and his wealth by two different unscrupulous individuals who’s parents were on the come up. What kind of parent wants money in lieu of punishment if their child was abused by the monster that Mike was accused of being????
          Yeah Mike was weird… but Mike also gave his entire life to giving us music and inspiration. And he deserves for his legacy to be preserved in a positive light.

          • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ V.E.G.

            @klysha,

            “What kind of parent wants money in lieu of punishment if their child was abused by the monster that Mike was accused of being????”

            Which is why I never bought into the child molestation charges. But he exercised poor arse judgment. After the first set of accusations, you would have NEVER seen me near a kid. lol.

        • Me fail english?

          @BLUNTBLAZER,

          Holy Crap! I didn’t know that. And the first kid was the one I was on the fence about. I always thought the ’05 one was a liar.

    • Complex Simplicity

      @iloVEGrits, this line here, “It’s sad thought that, even in death, his life is a spectacle”, I totally co-sign. The media will not let him die. There will be enough MJ “news” to last the rest of the year and into next few years . It’s sad that his affairs like his life was in such disaray, paternity of the kids, financials, the cause of his death…too many questions and there will really never be any answers.

    • Me fail english?

      @iloVEGrits,

      Yeah, I don’t think the media glossed over much. In fact, they just had “Jacko’s 5 most bizarre moments” on ET last nite and it wasnt pretty.

      As far as normal folks glossing over stuff, it’s just a matter of the people feeling that the loss of talent outweighs the other stuff. If Mike was as strange as he was and the eccentricities out-weighed his talent, ppl would take a very different tone. Is this noteworthy or intriguing? Not really, IMO. Don’t we do this for everyone?

      Question: What’s the fascination with remembering in HD about? I don’t find it particularly useful.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        @Me fail english?,

        “it’s just a matter of the people feeling that the loss of talent outweighs the other stuff.”

        see, i don’t think you can have one without the other. i think the talent and the “other stuff” are inextricably linked.

        as far as the HD question, i just prefer to remember things in the exact context they occurred. without that, (to me) the memories are meaningless

        • Me fail english?

          @The Champ,

          Well obviously, the man was who he was and no part could be without the other. I meant in terms of his importance to fans, some stuff outweighed the rest. The way we tend to remember Gandhi more for nonviolent resistance than his racist law school essays. They’re both Gandhi, but we find one thing more relevant to his legacy than the rest. Doesn’t mean we forgot.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @Me fail english?,

            I meant in terms of his importance to fans, some stuff outweighed the rest

            if this is what you meant before, i agree.

        • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

          @The Champ,

          “see, i don’t think you can have one without the other. i think the talent and the “other stuff” are inextricably linked.”

          Naw, that can’t be true. The phrase “separate the man from the artist” wouldn’t even exist if that were the case.

          And I don’t think he would’ve been nearly as consistently successful as an adult solo artist if folks weren’t able to separate the two.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @Cheekie,

            Naw, that can’t be true. The phrase “separate the man from the artist” wouldn’t even exist if that were the case.

            lol, thats a bullsh*t cliche though. when you’re talking about art, you can’t overlook the fact that a person’s personal demons have a direct role in the art they produce. even on a physical level, you don’t think half the popular music released during the 70’s would be any different if everyone wasn’t hopped up on tical?

            that “other” sh*t matters

            • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

              @The Champ,

              But, that phrase has to do with how people react (i.e. support it or not) to his music, not how he created it. They DO put his other stuff aside because they become lost in his music…the other stuff DOESN’T matter because you’re too busy getting into the groove.

              Who actually seriously ponders about the weird stuff about MJ when listening to his songs? If you do, you’re ruining your music experience. Like how you look writing mental essay regarding the various levels of weirdness throughout MJ’s life while listening to the pure bliss that is Billie Jean?

              That’s why folks use music as an escape from the daily stresses in life…it does make you forget about the “other” stuff, whatever that may be.

            • Me fail english?

              @The Champ,

              ‘that “other” sh*t matters’

              I think this is the part me and the other MJ fans don’t get. Why does it matter?

              Do I really need to look up vitiligo on Web MD in order to “get” Remember the Time? I think someone here said on Friday, when his records went overseas they’d translate the lyrics into nonsense. Not all of those fans around the world even knew what he was talking about and they were still in love, crying, passing out, everything.

              U tryna tell me they didn’t “appreciate” Thriller unless they knew about Bubbles?

            • Me fail english?

              And I’d like to add (not that anyone asked me, heh heh) that MJ was an international star before anyone suspected him of being strange. Nobody knew the little kid singing “ABC’ was so lonely or self-conscious or sensitive. Ppl just thought he liked James Brown. It wasn’t until nose job #2 (cf. Thriller time) that ppl started asking “what’s up with dude”? And even then, they didn’t think he was a nutcase yet.

              The point is long before we even knew about “the other shet” ppl loved and appreciated him. So to say we can’t love and appreciate him now unless we harp on the other shet makes no sense.

              In fact I’d argue, that although I’m a lifelong MJ fan (including Invincible), I connected LESS with his music as I learned more about his other ish. Not because he was getting weirder. Just a question of musical taste.

  • iloVEGrits

    “there’s no such thing as an adversity-less icon”

    This, my friend, is so on point. You have been taking your wisdom pills.

    This entire entry is probably one of the best piece I have read in years. Again, good job.

    • iloVEGrits

      @iloVEGrits,

      And, to show that I am a nerd and that I actually read footnotes, I will comment on those, too!

      I agree that BET needs to be cut some slack on the awards. They had very little time to pull it together. Yeah, New Edition didn’t sound great but they had less than 24 hrs to rehearse and, to be real, Ralph T. is too old to be singing a song written for a pre-teen boy. But they got the steps down. They tried. They tried. And it’s the thought that counts.

      *nerdiness ends here*

      • overit

        @iloVEGrits, I think BET should have had a separate tribute for MJJ, and the Neo/Jaime bit at the end, with shoutouts sprinnkled throughout would have sufficed.

        The BIG ARSE CHAIN ruined it for me.

        • iloVEGrits

          @overit,

          They did try to do a lil’ too much in one show. At one point, I was wondering where the awards were. But they tried.

          • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

            @iloVEGrits,

            “I was wondering where the awards were. But they tried.”

            Aight so of Harriet had just TRIED to escape slavery, we woulda just applauded her too? The Underground Railroad woulda been a broke down train car.

            *cackles* Ok I’m pushing it.

            But still. BET doesn’t get an E for effort. I won’t applaud their failed attempt. I give a 5-yr old a gold start for trying to sing “Twinkle Twinkle” and not quiet getting it. I give BET a *side eye* for trying to call that show a “tribute”.

            • iloVEGrits

              @Luvvie,

              Stoopid. Just stoopid. lol.

              Again…we expected one kind of tribute and are all mad cuz we didn’t get it. But, he!!, the Oscars tribute is a video montage of all the folks who died that year. There are different ways to pay homage to someone. Did they promise a musical tribute? I’m not sure…

            • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

              @VEG,

              ]YES! BET promised a musical tribute. Debra Lee got her *$$ all up thru the TV saying how so many celebs were volunteering to pay tribute to Mike at the show.

              iCan’t with you and this Johnny Cochraning of BET’s fail.

            • iloVEGrits

              @Luvvie,

              BET can’t make the artists do something.

              As I mentioned below, performers like Beyonce…if they wanted to pay tribute, could have reworked their routines. Instead, they didn’t.

              I think the ones who called and offered help were given assignments. Folks are up in arms cuz the bigger stars didn’t do anything. I don’t BET can be blamed for that.

            • superwoman

              @Luvvie,

              Aight so of Harriet had just TRIED to escape slavery, we woulda just applauded her too? The Underground Railroad woulda been a broke down train car

              heh heh heh, foolish gel!!!!! still heated, huh? ha ha!

            • Me fail english?

              @Luvvie,

              I agree the awards sucked. They were just sloppy as hell even if without mentioning the MJ tribute. And if it was taped “early Saturday” and didnt air til Sunday night, how come no one could edit out the Star Trek lady peeing when she was sposed to be onstage? How about editing the cussword out of Eddie Levert’s speech instead of whatever non-cusswords came after? And how the hell does a taped and edited show run 4 hours long for a 3 hour spot? I actually woulda cut them more slack had it aired live. In a former life I worked for a network with lots of live broadcasts and we NEVER effed stuff up that bad. You mean to tell me they had a whole 24 hours to edit that BOOSHEET?!?!

              *dies softly*

            • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….

              @Luvvie,
              @Me fail,
              that show still would’ve been bad w/o all the MJ stuff. the MJ stuff was actually good. Ne-yo, Jamie, Janet…that was good. It’s the fact that the entire show was the usual BET ninja shyt, and i think many of us expected them to at least try to act right for MJ…act like they would if they were at the Grammy’s or the Oscar’s….

      • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

        @iloVEGrits,

        I feel like BET tricked everyone into thinking a bulk of the show would be dedicated to MJ. Why else would CNN cover it? Not b/c they are just ITCHING to see Souljah Boy “turn his swag on”. They wanted to see how BET was gonna pay homage to the King of Pop

        • iloVEGrits

          @Luvvie,

          Actually, quite a bit of the show was dedicated to MJ. Just not in the way we expected it to be. We wanted performances, not monologues from folks on how they remembered MJ. We wanted to see video tributes, all that. They put together what they had time to do.

          The show was bad but not, IMHO, b/c of the MJ stuff or lack thereof.

          • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

            @iloVEGrits,

            Yes the show was bad but in the past, I’d just change the channel and watch something else. What made me keep watching was my expectation of that final GRAND tribute to MJ that never came.

            • iloVEGrits

              @Luvvie,

              I was looking for the finale, too. lol. And I am sure they tried to pull something together but couldn’t. lol.

            • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

              @Luvvie,
              hell yea exactly I thought they was gonna bring some dancers out but nuthin jus dumm a$$ bey and her weird a$$ outfits and Jay Z aka mr king of BET D.O.A. 4 real? I woulda rather seen CB dance

            • pinksghetti

              @Luvvie,
              I agree, I only watched to see the MJ tribute, the tributes were the best part. Fortunately I was brushing my teeth during the Lil Wayne and Drake stuff. I never watch the BET awards and I love award shows but I can’t get with too much of today’s music.

            • pinksghetti

              @Luvvie,
              I just wanted to make it clear that the only tribute that was good was Neyo’s. I don’t want anyone thinking I approve of Ciara’s “singing” and whatever Beyonce did (I left the room).

            • Monk

              @Luvvie,
              “Yes the show was bad but in the past, I’d just change the channel and watch something else. What made me keep watching was my expectation of that final GRAND tribute to MJ that never came.”

              I’m calling bullshyt on that statement. I’m highly inclined to believe that you was going to watch the show IRregardless of an MJ tribute. You need more people, animals, parasites, aliens, and naps from yours and Naturally Alise’s hair put together for me to believe that one boo.

          • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

            @iloVEGrits,

            @VEG

            BOOOOOO!!! Don’t gimme the “They tried to pull something 2getha” line. Even BET said “Many celebs have called us to ask how they could help”

            All they had to do was tell the celebs. “You go on at 9pm. work something out. we need it big.” Mariah and her spandex dress coulda done something. Re-Re Franklin coulda donned her fave spaghetti strap dress. ANYBODY coulda dome something.

            That don’t cut it!

            • iloVEGrits

              @Luvvie,

              “Even BET said “Many celebs have called us to ask how they could help””

              That don’t mean they wanted to come up with a routine in two days. C’mon, dude. You are giving the network – which I admit, sucks – a lot of he!! for not having Usher, dressed as MJ, fly across the auditorium while singing Billie Jean, then landing on stage as Chris Brown and Justin Timberlake moonwalk onto the stage, at which point the three of the have an MJ sing off.

              Folks are mad cuz BET didn’t get Tracee Ellis Ross to dress up as her mom perform “Ease on Down” with an MJ look alike dressed as a scarecrow.

              For all I know, they did tell the celebs to think big and what we got was Kerri Hilson in some bu!!shit outfit, and a bunch of ‘we love you MJ’ in the acceptance speeches.

              If Beyonce WANTED to pay tribute to MJ, she would have got her arse in the studio and did something. So I doubt celebs were calling with the ‘how can we help?’ crap BET put out there. I’m pretty sure the ones who asked how they could help were put on the stage…New Edition (rather, Diddy made them do it), Ciara, etc. and share their personal memories. The other stars…did jack.

            • Me fail english?

              @Luvvie,

              I agree, even if it wasn’t celebs, they coulda invited a dance team to re-enact “Beat It”, I’m sure they coulda called on “Brutha” to sing like one verse outta”Dancin Machine”. And this aint hindsight talking. I was actually lookin forward to seein smthg in that vein before the damn show! Nada. Zip. Zilch. How you got a company full of interns and that’s the best you can do?

              On any other awards show parkly gloves and “Michael Jackson is guns.” would not qualify as a tribute. BET is giving affirmative action style sympathy.

              edit: Neyo and Jamie did great. And Bey sounded like an angel

            • Me fail english?

              Heh, heh. I meant to say BET is getting Aff. Action style sympathy

          • shay_d_lady

            @iloVEGrits, If Beyonce WANTED to pay tribute to MJ, she would have got her arse in the studio and did something. So I doubt celebs were calling with the ‘how can we help?’ crap BET put out there. I’m pretty sure the ones who asked how they could help were put on the stage…New Edition (rather, Diddy made them do it), Ciara, etc. and share their personal memories. The other stars…did jack.

            now I completely co sign this.. yall know Beyonce got a blond jerri curl wig she could have thrown on and sang off the wall or rock wit you … but instead she said F1ck it.. Imma sang this prayer in this tutu and f!ck MJ..my written statement read during the pre awards show is enough..
            hell Jay could have done something too mr. I can write a song in 10 minutes.. that ninja could have rolled out song cry with a mj verse…..and then Jamie didnt help with his constant..this shyt here, this shyt here comin up next? shtick……

            • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

              @shay_d_lady,

              Why she chose to sing the animal cruelty song is lost on me. She needed to be presented with a ‘h*, sat down gift basket’ for that one.

            • http://cookinwitgrease.wordpress.com chasdizz

              @shay_d_lady,
              LOL so sad that a song about angels has been reduced to the animal cruelty song.

              damn puppies.

              I heard Beyonce’ was scheduled to do her set which included an MJ song….”I’ll Be There”…I wanna say…(don’t quote me on that song tho) at the end of the show. For some reason they asked her to move her performance and do somethin else I guess so Jamie and Neyo could do it.

            • Monk

              @shay_d_lady,
              “yall know Beyonce got a blond jerri curl wig she could have thrown on and sang off the wall or rock wit you … but instead she said F1ck it.. Imma sang this prayer in this tutu and f!ck MJ..my written statement read during the pre awards show is enough..”

              Like really? Is this why people didn’t like the awards show…because of what they felt like the entertainers could of/should of done?

              Fugg outta here.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @iloVEGrits,

            Actually, quite a bit of the show was dedicated to MJ. Just not in the way we expected it to be. We wanted performances, not monologues from folks on how they remembered MJ. We wanted to see video tributes, all that. They put together what they had time to do.

            **nodding head**

            again, i think we’re letting our feelings about mj and BET make us forget how impossible it would have been for them to pull that off. i mean, sh*t…it takes most families at least 4 days to plan for a funeral for a single family member. i can’t imagine trying to completely choreograph a tribute to the king of pop in 24 hours.

            • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

              @The Champ,

              “i can’t imagine trying to completely choreograph a tribute to the king of pop in 24 hours.”

              Me neither. But then they shouldnt have said they would and sat the h*ll down w their braggadocious faces. That’s all i’s saying,

              Overpromised but underdelivered majorly

            • Me fail english?

              @The Champ,

              “i can’t imagine trying to completely choreograph a tribute to the king of pop in 24 hours.”

              You do realize that Chris Brown got into his trouble mere hours before the Grammys this year and JT and Al Green stepped in with an excellent performance.

              And as a dancer, it is totally possible to put together an MJ dance routine within 3 days. He had a pretty distinct style so you couldve even put out some freestylers to take turns doing his signature moves. Let’s all admit BET just didn’t really try that hard. I blame Don Cornelius

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

              @me fail

              “You do realize that Chris Brown got into his trouble mere hours before the Grammys this year and JT and Al Green stepped in with an excellent performance”

              good point.

      • shay_d_lady

        @iloVEGrits, I think BET’s mistake was in the overhyping.. they said it was the best thing since motown 25 and then delivered that shyt. had they just said, we have a great awards show, we will do a small tribute now and it’ll get greater later…maybe but instead Debra Lee azz was all over the place talking about how “chock full” of MJ tribute the awards show was.
        But I do think the tributes were lack luster because very few artist were willing or able (if you believe the tweets) to perrform….I mean BET is ridiculous but you really th ink they would have let CICI sing that shyt had chaka or diana… f!ck ashford and simpson been willing to get up on stage and do something?

        • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

          @shay_d_lady,

          “Debra Lee azz was all over the place talking about how “chock full” of MJ tribute the awards show was.”

          I didn’t see any of these. My opinion would be different had I seen them. lol. Best thing since Motown 25? Wow. She had big dreams. And I’m sure as she called and folks weren’t able to perform…she was probably getting nervous. lol.

          • shay_d_lady

            @iloVEGrits, Debra Lee azz was all over the place talking about how “chock full” of MJ tribute the awards show was.”

            Girl yes, on her pre awards interview she was like “you have to watch the whole show we have done so much , you wont beleive how much we have managed to pull together in so little time” and I wanna say she actually said the awards WERE a tribute show to Michael…..

            • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

              @shay_d_lady,

              OMG. I am LMAO. I actually expected a video montage and hoped for an MJ dance off. Bare minimum. But she was promising BIG STUFF. I am glad I didn’t see any of that. Cuz then I’d be all bitter like Luvvie. :)

            • Me fail english?

              @shay_d_lady,

              Word. I was thinking as I watched the show….”did she ever get told about the final product?” Surely, she didn’t know this was the tribute. LOL.

            • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

              @shay_d_lady,
              exactly she was sellin hellllllllllllllllllla wolf tickets i hate her for that hella false advertising i wanna sue that bish for the 3 hrs of my life back

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @iloVEGrits, yeah, no. it is not the thought that counts. in show business, it’s the execution that counts. their execution sucked.

        i’m sure them ninjas at BET THOUGHT they could pull it off. i’m sure they THOUGHT they did. the fact is, they did not. now, is it possible that people enjoyed the MJ tributes? of course.

        i listen to Ray J.

        my point is that, just b/c people like bad sh*t doesnt make it good. it just means that people like bad sh*t.

        • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

          @Panama Jackson,

          I would hope that they do not think they pulled it off. I hope they had a post mortem and decided never, ever to attempt to pull off big ish in less than three days time.

          But, I give ‘em a ‘C’ for the thought and what I know was a long weekend for the staff.

          • Me fail english?

            @iloVEGrits,

            That’s one thing I can give em a pass on. The size of the team. On creative projects, if there isnt a strong leader, you can get too many cooks in the kitchen. So a million great ideas can devolve into a single shetty execution.

            • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ V.E.G.

              @Me fail english?,

              I am sure they all had big hopes and, after seeing the final show, let out a collective ‘awww damn’.

        • http://stuffghettopeoplelike.wordpress.com Stuff Ghetto People Like

          @Panama Jackson,

          just b/c people like bad sh*t doesnt make it good. it just means that people like bad sh*t.

          From the mountaintop, my brother…from the mountaintop.

      • http://mysixcents.wordpress.com klysha

        @iloVEGrits, Who can pull together a tribute that can adequately remember the greatest entertainer of our lifetime perhaps all time in 24 hours?????? Those celebrities probably had other engagements and were just barely able to fly in to make the show, much less make the show and put in some extra rehearsal time on a totally reworked show….. Yeah we were let down, but only because our expectations were not realistic. So BET’s failure was in getting peoples expectations up. The timing was just unfortunate…..now the show itself sucked in a number of ways in it’s own right, but not because they didn’t adequately acknowledge MJ.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @iloVEGrits,

      This entire entry is probably one of the best piece I have read in years. Again, good job.

      thanks and sh*t

  • overit

    I’m not even tired yet, but my head is spinning so I can’t write just yet. Some valid points in here, but some I’d like to have more clarity on.

    Be back in the am.

    • RedBeanzNRice w/Fried Chicken

      @overit,

      Agreed. My stomach is still sick, but I just wanted to see what the topic was for the night. AM it is!

  • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

    Of course MJ was a flawed being. and what sucks is that his last 10-15 years were spent being the butt of comedian’s jokes. Hell, I admit to making a couple myself. But admittedly, we sometimes dont appreciate folks until they are gone and this is definitely the case here.

    But despite all of MJ’s weirdness, one cant deny the impact of his music on the world. No one comes close! Not even Elvis.

    • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

      @Luvvie,

      “we sometimes dont appreciate folks until they are gone and this is definitely the case here”

      Honestly, I don’t think its a case of him not being appreciated while he was alive. His music career was held up as the standard other artists should aspire to. I think its more the fact that he provided so much fodder for ridicule and that, in the wake of his death, people seem to forget all of that. We want to, now that he’s dead, negate the “bad” when, as Champ so eloquently put it, the “good” – his career – fueled the decisions that lead to the “bad”. But, as I wrote, I think those who make no mention of the surgeries, accusations, disappearing melanin, probably didn’t put too much stock into those things while he was living.

      • shay_d_lady

        @iloVEGrits, ;I think its more the fact that he provided so much fodder for ridicule and that, in the wake of his death, people seem to forget all of that.

        Okay VEG…. if Lauryn Hill (knock on wood) should meet her demise anytime soon, I am sure you are going to be remembering them grammy’s and her talent and not wanting to constantly dwell on that clown shyt and walking around barefoot lookin for oodles of noodles or whateva she had going on…

        • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

          @shay_d_lady,

          “f Lauryn Hill (knock on wood) should meet her demise anytime soon, I am sure you are going to be remembering them grammy’s and her talent and not wanting to constantly dwell on that clown shyt and walking around barefoot lookin for oodles of noodles or whateva she had going on…”

          But that’s the thing: If you recall, I don’t dwell on it now. He!!, I think I said that Lauryn was free and we all should pray to get to that level of freedom. lol.

        • shay_d_lady

          @iloVEGrits@shay_d_lady, I got ADD.. and hit submit before I was finished! LOL

          but even if you do choose to put in Miseducation and sing it loud while re-enacting videos..there is nothing wrong with that… those people who never recognized his issues are crazy true.. but most of us recognized it, were saddened by it and are hoping that in death he finds peace… we are not trying to make the world forget what he became, but instead asking them to celebrate who he was…..

          • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

            @shay_d_lady,

            “those people who never recognized his issues are crazy true.. but most of us recognized it, were saddened by it and are hoping that in death he finds peace”

            I agree with your sentiment but there are many who were in deep denial then and now. I saw someone on some news show today say ‘it was his face. Nothing wrong with a little plastic surgery.” GTFOH.

            • shay_d_lady

              @iloVEGrits, . Nothing wrong with a little plastic surgery.” GTFOH.

              LMAO…. yeah there are lot of people in denial but the majority of tributes and such are coming from sane individuals just trying to pay their respect to someone that affected thier life (through his music) in a positive manner…

            • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

              @iloVEGrits,

              “I saw someone on some news show today say ‘it was his face. Nothing wrong with a little plastic surgery.” GTFOH.”

              Ok NOW that person was just a crock pot full of Sh*t.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @shay_d_lady,

            “…we are not trying to make the world forget what he became, but instead asking them to celebrate who he was…..”

            aren’t these the same thing?

        • Me fail english?

          @shay_d_lady,

          Good point. I DO think Lauryn is strange and angry now. And I DO make jokes now. God forbid she passed, I certainly wouldn’t make it a point to remind people “Remember that time she showed up in clown makeup at the concert?” “Remember how she was sleeping with Rohan, having all them kids and he was knocking down her cousin too?”

          I just don’t see the point. And I disagree completely that this same shetty stuff is what made them special. There are a lot of self-mutilating plastic surgery addicts and chicks who get knocked up by philanderers. None of em can be Lauryn or MJ. What made them special was their gifts from God. That’s what I’m going to miss witnessing and that’s what I mourn for.

          To the ppl who want us to remember all the flaws of our heroes, do you also celebrate adultery on MLK day?

          • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

            @Me fail english?,

            “To the ppl who want us to remember all the flaws of our heroes, do you also celebrate adultery on MLK day?”

            ooooooo.

          • V Renee

            @Me fail english?,

            To the ppl who want us to remember all the flaws of our heroes, do you also celebrate adultery on MLK day? .

            It was years before I was aware of this. Good point.

          • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….

            @Me fail english?,
            To the ppl who want us to remember all the flaws of our heroes, do you also celebrate adultery on MLK day?

            of course not…instead they name schools, roads, and chapels after him, and want their sons to be like him….BS!!
            interestingly enough, the people who weren’t really touched by MJ’s death are the same ones who want us to “remember” his flaws…you know what i say to that….
            remember deez!!

            • http://stuffghettopeoplelike.wordpress.com Stuff Ghetto People Like

              @N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,

              “@Me fail english?,
              To the ppl who want us to remember all the flaws of our heroes, do you also celebrate adultery on MLK day?

              of course not…instead they name schools, roads, and chapels after him, and want their sons to be like him….BS!!”

              But that’s the nature of canonizing someone. MLK, Jacko, Tupac, Jordan, ya mama…can’t do no wrong, they’re model citizens.

          • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

            @Me fail english?,

            To the ppl who want us to remember all the flaws of our heroes, do you also celebrate adultery on MLK day?

            I knew there was a reason me like Me fail….
            I’m going to go back to being mute for the day.

          • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

            @Me fail english?,

            “To the ppl who want us to remember all the flaws of our heroes, do you also celebrate adultery on MLK day?”

            Check. MATE.

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            @Me fail english?,

            “To the ppl who want us to remember all the flaws of our heroes, do you also celebrate adultery on MLK day?”

            Tell ‘em! (no soulja boy)

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @Me fail english?,

            To the ppl who want us to remember all the flaws of our heroes, do you also celebrate adultery on MLK day?

            knowing about mlk’s adultery doesn’t really put his achievements in a different context. does it put his legacy in a different light? sure.

            thing is, when those flaws and accomplishments are directly related to each other, than yes, (to me) it is vital to know exactly what was going on behind the scenes

            • Me fail english?

              @The Champ,

              “knowing about mlk’s adultery doesn’t really put his achievements in a different context. does it put his legacy in a different light? sure.”

              You’re getting semantical now. What is his legacy if not his achievements? Further, can’t the same thing be said of MJ? What does Moonwalking have to do with arrested development? And how exactly, are you sure that there’s no link between adultery (and possible homosexuality) and beliefs in brotherhood and the importance of being colorblind?

              So you only prefer HD for Malcolm X and MJ, but technicolor for MLK? Arent you still cherrypicking the things you remember about the man …like you accuse the rest of us of doing. I’m gonna bet anything, you didn’t do a post on MLK day asking why it seems, nobody was acknowledging his shortcomings. True? True.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @iloVEGrits, i have to wonder who you people are talking too in general. there really hasnt been a single tribute, article, or reference to him that hasnt included his failures.

        people are largely speaking on how MJ impacted their lives when they do tributes. hell, its tributes where people are “glossing” over the uber-negatives. but man, if you cant do that in a tribute, where do you do it?

        nobody thinks Mike was perfect. his imperfections have been broadcast to everybody for the past 20 years.

        i guess i don’t see why there’s such a “seeming” divide. why is it that if folks want to pay tribute to MJ, SO MANY other people want to make sure that they correctly assess him as the flawed being that he was?

    • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

      @Luvvie,

      and ‘flawed’ is an understatement. We are all flawed. We’re humans. Disturbed, lost, distressed…is more accurate, I think.

      • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

        @iloVEGrits,

        Agreed. MJ was definitely disturbed. I shan’t lie.

        • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

          @Luvvie,

          “I shan’t lie.”

          Good. Cuz if you did, your nose would grow long. And that’s not a good look.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @iloVEGrits, why is it so important to you to “accurately” assess MJ’s persona?

        • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

          @Panama Jackson,

          Like Champ, I just generally feel its important to have a realistic and honest view on a person/sequence of events, etc.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @iloVEGrits, let me rephrase. why is it important to remind OTHERS that he was flawed in convo?

            its great that you want to make sure you have a realistic and honest assessment. kudos. really.

            however, why would you make sure to note to others that perhaps they aren’t fully categorizing the man’s persona? why do you care so much how accurately other people chose to remember him?

            • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ V.E.G.

              @Panama Jackson,

              Iunno. I guess it’s important to honor a person’s full and true self?

              You make me think, man. I don’t like it.

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

              @V.E.G., i’ll be patiently awaiting an answer on this.

              i just honestly don’t get why its so necessary, especially right now. the man just died and people are doing their best to make sure that people know that he was f*cked the f*ck up. and for the life of me I don’t understand why that’s so important to people.

              it’s one thing if somebody’s writing a book on the legacy of michael jackson and omits his more tenuous years, but it hasn’t even been a week since he died and already folks want to make sure we “accurately assess” MJ.

            • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ V.E.G.

              @Panama Jackson,

              Dang, man! I said iunno.
              Quit badgering me.

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

              @V.E.G., pauvre bebé.

            • Me fail english?

              @Pan Pan,

              I’ll take a stab at it. I think the HD view is really just a perverse kind of voyeurism. The same kind that drove folks to buy Nat’l Enquirer and read 12M articles about him sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber. The same kind that makes us watch Maury and turn our noses up at THOSE people who can’t find their baby daddy. People like to play couch potato psychologist (I admit, I like it too) and ruminate over “what’s wrong with that guy”. It has nothing to do with the man’s legacy, only our morbid preoccupation with trainwrecks.

              Also, mourning in earnest kills the cynic in us. And we got reps to maintain. *tough*

      • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

        @iloVEGrits,
        erybody got issues some worse than others

        • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ V.E.G.

          @BLUNTBLAZER,

          Naw, a serial killer or rapist has more than ‘issues’. lol.

  • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

    And Champ, sorry but I disagree with you on the BET tip. I never have expectations for the BET Awards and expect CRAP. However, when BET themselves said that they would devote most of the show to MJ, they put it out there. If they hadn’t made that bold statement and had everyone expecting them to, people would not have thought “YES I WILL SEE an MJ Tribute SHOW”. BET made promises it couldn’t keep. Thats what it comes down to.

    Isweahfo Queen Yawnce’s liquid leggings and one-piece spandex that BET is on my permanent sh*t list, next to beets, horror movies and clowns. iRebuke you in the name of Diva, Halo & Ego to the pits of Dereon Hades w/ 3-headed dog in the finest kanekalon hairhat.

    BTW everyones. I wrote a SCATHING letter on my blog called “Dear BET, iQuit U” that further explains the reason why iRebuke BET in its entirety after that janky awards. Read it. Thanks you

    • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

      @Luvvie,

      This is where the problem comes in. People heard this:

      BET would devote most of the show to MJ

      and expected:

      an MJ Tribute SHOW

      That’s what we all get. “Devoting much of the show” can come in many forms. lol. They kept their word, I’d say, even if it fell far short of expectations. Having worked in live TV before, it is hard to turn on a dime. Especially when you have sponsors who paid to have their ads run before such and such performer. And when you’ve spent your budget making sure Bey can have a lingerie outfit to perform in. They probably had $200 left in the show’s coffers and spread it around as much as they could to pull off what they did.

      • shay_d_lady

        @iloVEGrits, This is where the problem comes in. People heard this:

        BET would devote most of the show to MJ

        and expected:

        an MJ Tribute SHOW

        and BET knew that shyt and used it to their advantage.. they do get a fail for that shyt.. cmon it was bait and switch at its finest…..

        • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

          @shay_d_lady,

          if they promised something better than Motown 25, then I agree. lol. All I saw was “BET celebrates MJ”.

          I didn’t hear all these promises y’all are saying they made.

          • shay_d_lady

            @iloVEGrits, if they promised something better than Motown 25, then I agree. lol. All I saw was “BET celebrates MJ”.

            I didn’t hear all these promises y’all are saying they made.

            maybe thats what I get for watching BET before the show!!! But yeah Debra was all on the red carpet before the shyt..they had clips of her in the commercials..Rocsi and Terrance were all on 106..them ninjas were writing mad checks that arena league version of an awards show didnt cash….

            • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

              @shay_d_lady,
              i saw that too got me all hyped up she was all like “im glad we get the chance to celebrate mike life/death first here on bet and ya gotta watch the whole show not jus wait till the end” shoulda known i was gettin tricked but i fell for it.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @iloVEGrits,

            I didn’t hear all these promises y’all are saying they made.

            me neither.

            but if its true that she made this comments on the network, you can’t argue that you wouldn’t have even watched BET if she didnt say something…because you were obviously already watching BET to hear her say it.

            i think i just crossed my own eyes, btw

            • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

              @The Champ,

              “you can’t argue that you wouldn’t have even watched BET if she didnt say something…because you were obviously already watching BET to hear her say it.”

              I had the same thought.

            • Me fail english?

              @The Champ,

              I would have definitely watched the show whether MJ died or not… and DEFINITELY would not have stayed up til 11pm if I wasn’t expecting an MJ tribute.

              I was kinda embarrassed for BET. MJ tribute aside, I think it was one of the worst BET Awards I’ve seen in years.

            • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….

              @The Champ,

              i didn’t hear her say this on BET. I saw other new channels report her saying this. CNN was not there to see Young Money….

            • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

              @The Champ,

              “you can’t argue that you wouldn’t have even watched BET if she didnt say something…because you were obviously already watching BET to hear her say it.”

              Yeah cuz news clips and stories are shown exclusively on just one channel, Champ. o_O

            • shay_d_lady

              @The Champ, you can’t argue that you wouldn’t have even watched BET if she didnt say something…because you were obviously already watching BET to hear her say it.”

              I never said that, I said that chick overhyped some shyt she didnt deliver….

            • Me fail english?

              @Luvvie,

              lol. I just realized what he meant! lol. She didn’t say it on BET! She said it on CNN and every other cable news network re-broadcast it!!

              E for Effort, Champipple (not to be confused with “A”…for Achievement)

        • Gem-N-Eye

          @shay_d_lady,

          they used it to their advantage INDEED. BET got 10.6 mil viewers, a record for them, supposedly making the show the most viewed cable show of the year among “ad-supported networks”. they played a whole lotta ppl.

    • miss t-lee

      @Luvvie,
      Queen “Yawnce”’s

      Um…I’ma need a work cite…please and thank you…lmao

      • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

        @miss t-lee,

        Yawnce (c) Miss T-Lee. Addition of “Queen” was me.

        LOL I’m mad I need footnotes now

        • miss t-lee

          @Thuggie Luvvie,
          Thanks ma’am. :)

      • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

        @miss t-lee,
        Bey is boring i jus look at her body

        • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

          @BLUNTBLAZER,

          “Bey is boring i jus look at her body”

          This cracked me up for a good min.

          • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

            @Cheekie,
            i always put her music videos on mute lolshakira get the same treatment

            • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

              @BLUNTBLAZER,

              So, I’m sure their (muted) duet is just bliss for you. lol

    • pinksghetti

      @Luvvie,

      I just have to comment. Are we twins? I hate beets and horror movies too. I’ll add coconut and snakes to that list as well. I just had to say that, lol.

      Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

  • ebonyI

    Excellent post Champ. I can’t really add to what iloVEGrits has said about your writing today.

    I’m an MJ fan, sincerely, and very sad that he’s gone. I was having a conversation with a friend today and my (completely unprofessional) analysis is that MJ was always looking for love. He found it consistently while performing and sought it inconsistently (and sometimes disastrously, see: trials) off stage. He was lonely.

    Re: BET, they did pull together a show in less than 48 hours, so points for that. Subtract 1000 points for the Baby Boy nonsense and they still end up inthe red.

    unrelated, yet relevant: I voted for VSB for the Black Weblog Awards :)

    • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

      @ebonyI,

      “BET, they did pull together a show in less than 48 hours, so points for that. Subtract 1000 points for the Baby Boy nonsense and they still end up inthe red.”

      lolol

    • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

      @ebonyI,

      “unrelated, yet relevant: I voted for VSB for the Black Weblog Awards ”

      So did I. Is VSB paying us for our votes?

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @iloVEGrits, yeah. the check’s in the mail.

        along with Lauryn Hill’s freedom.

        *shots fired*

        • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

          @Panama Jackson,

          hahahaha.

          I was gonna bit Champ and give you a ‘freedom deez’ but I can’t. You get an ‘A’ for that one.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @iloVEGrits, thank you kindly ma’am.

        • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

          @Panama Jackson,

          I was gonna bite Champ and give you a ‘freedom deez’. But I can’t. You get an ‘A’ for that one.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @ebonyI,

      welcome and sh*t, and thanks and sh*t

  • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

    “mj died on a thursday, and, from my understanding, the awards were filmed early saturday.”

    The BET Awards were filmed LIVE which is why their censor man missed hella curse words, including when Eddie Levert said “Sh*t!”. Best moment of the night! I love when old people cuss!

    • shay_d_lady

      @Luvvie, I Loved seeing Eddie’s azz up there cussing too..
      but about halfway through the performance, i thought eddie’s azz was gone have a heart attack himself.. he was sweating so hard and moving about 2 and a half steps slower than the other two…LMAO

      • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

        @shay_d_lady,

        ME TOO! I was like, “ok, Eddie. Catch your breath.”

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          @iloVEGrits, tell me you didn’t love Eddie Levert a LITTLE bit more after that?

          that’s one cool mofo.

          • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

            @Panama Jackson,

            Eddie’s always been cool to me. Sheeeeyat. When he sings…I forget that looks like a primate.

            • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

              @iloVEGrits,
              i give props to them and N.E, guy, bbd, keith sweat they actually broke a sweat i can appreciate that. Ima huge old skoo Bobby Brown/NE fan so I was giggin on the couch esp when bbd came out god i felt 12 again.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Luvvie,

      I love when old people cuss!

      t-shirt potential

      • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

        @The Champ,
        “I love when old people cuss!

        t-shirt potential”

        One in which, I would wear, proudly. Everything old folks do is funnier, by default. Same with babies.

        • http://stuffghettopeoplelike.wordpress.com Stuff Ghetto People Like

          @Cheekie, this is why Betty White is still comedy gold. And Helen Martin before she passed.

          • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ V.E.G.

            @Stuff Ghetto People Like,

            Betty White is a goddess.

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            @Stuff Ghetto People Like,

            Yes, indeed.

    • Me fail english?

      @Luvvie,

      I didnt see all the O’Jays tribute but thought it was pretty dope.

      “My name is Eddie. This is what I do.” Hahahahaha! Ima start saying that when ppl look at me crazy.

      lol@ the new OJay talmbout “I aint know Michael and I aint make none of these records. But I’ll enjoy this award.”

      The O’Jays keep it real :)

      • miss t-lee

        @Me fail english?,
        lol@ the new OJay talmbout “I aint know Michael and I aint make none of these records. But I’ll enjoy this award.”

        That ish was funny as heyll.

  • shay_d_lady

    I want to comment before I read anyone else’s so forgive me if what I say has already been said.
    I have heard this same sentiment about 100 times since MJ’s death.
    We are not forgetting, hell how can we, shyt we all saw what he looked like. That being said there is nothing at all wrong with recognizing a persons wrong, forgiving them and celebrating the good in them and how they touched or inspired you. I might not be Christian but I am a theist and in death I do believe we are all held accountable for our past transgressions so there is no need for me dwell on the negative.

    • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

      @shay_d_lady,

      “I might not be Christian but I am a theist and in death I do believe we are all held accountable for our past transgressions so there is no need for me dwell on the negative.”

      You, my friend, have also been taking your wisdom pills. :)

      • shay_d_lady

        @iloVEGrits, You, my friend, have also been taking your wisdom pills.

        Girl, I had to do something after all them years I spent spinning in ignance…LMAO

    • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….

      @shay_d_lady,

      great comment shay_d_lady!!!

  • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

    *Calling VEG out*

    Umm… don’t somebody owe me a coupla text messages? I sweah bout these Creoles sometimes. o_O

    • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

      @Luvvie,

      *sighs, takes off earrings, pulls hair into pony tail, puts shoes carefully to the side*

      I haven’t gotten a text message from you today. What you wanna do now?

      • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Luvvie

        @iloVEGrits,

        I text u 3 times. Don’t make me come to the southside and break all the heels of ur shoes!!! We can DO THIS!

        • http://stickwithyocat.blogspot.com/ iloVEGrits

          @Luvvie,

          Girl, you gonna be a breakin’ fool. You know how many pairs of shoes I own? You think you have shoe game? Puhlease, chile.

          I didn’t get ‘em. Swear. Our tranny pr0n loving friend said he texted me, too. And I didn’t get it, so there must be a glitch in the matrix.

  • http://blackwomanlost.blogspot.com Naturally Alise

    I agree that there is no “adversity-less icon.” I also was thinking of a quote “Behind every great fortune there is a great crime” and I also believe that behind fame there is always some great pain or adversity of some sort behind it. I think his death just shows the sad state of affairs of living in a celebrity obsessed world (and this sh*t ain’t new, folks have been worshiping false idols since the dawn of civilization).

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Naturally Alise,

      I think his death just shows the sad state of affairs of living in a celebrity obsessed world

      expound and sh*t

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        @The Champ, @The Champ, one thing she might mean is how the average Joe and Jane can go thru their crap in the peace of not having the TMZ/tabloid lens all over them. Celebs gotta be all Yonce-like and smile all the time, never let anyone see ‘em sweat and all that bomb shyet, lest they eff up their money.

        On another end, it’s also how we treat celebs as our royalty. That’s who MJ, JFK Jr., and such are in this country where we don’t have kings and emperors.