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The Insult And Intimidation Of Black Women Is As American As Apple Pie

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In an ideal world, we would spend the next few hundred words articulating the significance of a Black woman achieving rapid career acceleration in the entertainment industry after decades of hard work. Leslie Jones’s addition to SNL, an institution Whiter than tampon commercial underwear, is a major accomplishment. As is her being cast in the Ghostbusters reboot.

Instead, we are forced to lament what continues to be the striking reality for Black women in the age of social media. That with increased visibility comes increased vitriol. And that we exist in a society that feels entitled to dictate the narrow confines of where Black women are allowed to flourish versus the spaces that we should not encroach.

This isn’t a tale limited to Leslie; the Rio Olympics had us revisiting the targeted insults lobbied at Gabby Douglas, a young woman who has also been open about how the ill-spirited commentary affected her. Talk to any Black woman of any level of notoriety or platform in social media and you’ll be regaled with tale after tale of unprompted gender-based and race-based (and sometimes both at the same time) hate speech from keyboard trolls the world over. Ultimately, the plight of online harassment, on Twitter especially, has been an oft-discussed problem that seems to have received minimal traction from the company on a grand scale. 

One could argue that yes, this happens to many women regardless of race. But the layering of race is too critical to ignore here as just a minor component. Jones’s costars Kristen Wiig, Melissa McCarthy, and Kate McKinnon certainly haven’t been compared to a deceased silverback gorilla. Or referred to as “big-lipped coons.” Or been the target or a publicly coordinated attack by a Breitbart writer. Or any of the other vitriolic slurs that targeted not just Leslie’s gender, but her race, as well as her aesthetic existing on the outliers of what is viewed as traditionally beautiful for Hollywood elite. Jones has been forced to bear the brunt of the attacks herself, with limited public support (if any) from her costars, a circumstance, which, by her own admission, she is used to. An unfortunate reality for a Black woman with a certain level of exposure.

This all came to a head, when hackers infiltrated Leslie’s personal website with her sensitive personal information, not only doxing her, but leaking nude photos from her iCloud and uploading a video of the deceased gorilla Harambe.

The last time this happened on a major scale — with the victims being Jennifer Lawrence and Kate Upton, amongst others — the public outcry was so deafening that the FBI got involved. I’m still awaiting for any of these two conditions to arise in the light of these circumstances. At the time of writing, her costars have yet to comment publicly in support of Leslie’s continuously unwarranted plight. (Editor’s note: The FBI is involved now.)

Instead, what I have witnessed is a plethora of jokes at Leslie’s expense with regards to leaking her nudes; as if a woman who doesn’t fit the perceived mainstream standards of desirability should be less entitled to outrage at her violation of privacy than the Jennifer Lawrences and Scarlett Johannsons of the world. The impetus behind leaking, after all, isn’t just to share the bits and kibbles of America’s most beautiful; its to inflict shame and embarrassment upon women for exercising the right to celebrate their body at their discretion. And the additional layer of comparing Leslie’s physical aesthetic to that of an animal — a comparison with historically racist implications — is intended to add further insult to her public exposure, inviting criticisms to the concept of her or anyone else celebrating her form as an exercise in mockery and humiliation.

It shouldn’t be expected of Leslie to just persevere and rise above this. While it is admirable that she has so far transformed the spurts of written violence into moments of awareness and advocacy, that isn’t a weight that she should have to carry alone, and the absence of certain voices to uplift her in these trials and tribulations is also deafening. We shouldn’t be expecting Leslie to push through this adversity, we should be demanding civility and gatekeeping from the arbiters of the ecosystem that was intended to be built for healthy public engagement and not hate speech. Cyberbullying against Black Women shouldn’t be our expected burden to bear; we are people, not battering rams, entitled to justice, civility and a base-level respect that should be afforded to any human at all levels of celebrity. As social media continues to expand and transform, it is paramount that we collectively hold accountable the gatekeepers of the applications we keep viable via our engagement, and demand that the protection of Black women from targeted attacks be prioritized in the ongoing battles of cyberbullying and internet harassment.

Shamira Ibrahim

Shamira is a twentysomething New Yorker who likes all things Dipset. You can join her in waxing poetically about chicken, Cam'ron, and gentrification (gotta have some balance) under the influence of varying amounts of brown liquor at her semi-monthly blog, shamspam.tumblr.com

  • “While it is admirable that she has so far transformed the spurts of written violence into moments of awareness and advocacy, that isn’t a weight that she should have to carry alone, and the absence of certain voices to uplift her in these trials and tribulations is also deafening.”

    The sad, unfortunate truth…

  • Is this kind of vitriol only reserved for black women on a certain end of the complexion spectrum. I’ve never seen anyone attack a black woman the way Leslie has been attacked in recent months.

    ETA: Gaborey (sp?) also got hate like this as well when Precious dropped. Again, I have to wonder if they were lighter would they have been dragged in the same manner and put on front street to burn.

    • bear_in_nola

      I think her color and height scares people. They either subject her to tokenism or vitriol (though i do know know there are some genuine fans and advertisers who value her). It’s sickening. She hasn’t even done anything bad!

      • I just want it to be known that black women of a certain complexion are able to pass and not see the same kind of hatred as other black women do but people like to act like all black women get exposed to the same kind of hate across the board.

        • They imitate everything that they hate about black men and women in general.
          Imagine that.

        • bear_in_nola

          Absolutely agree about the colorism. The closer you are to white, the more “protected” you will be. This is why we need Leslie to be successful…and happy and safe!

          • It’s disgusting. I hate that she has to go through all this. White people are terrible.

    • Ari

      As someone who resembles Leslie Jones from my nearly 6-feet physical stature to my chocolate brown complexion, all of this is highly unsettling and makes me sick to my stomach. Unfortunately the vitriol is familiar territory, but the vile depths to which these hackers went to break her down makes me shudder.

      • Women who aren’t super femme have always gotten that BS. Throw in the psychosocial BS of dark skin, and how it’s coded masculine and you have ourselves a mess.

        • Ari

          It’s fetishized and reviled at the same time.

      • Sidenote: Tall women are incredible to me. Lawd, Iuv me some tall women! I remember meeting a tall woman’s social group online, and was asked to design a logo for them. I ended up bringing/hosting them here in Philly (2009) for a weekend field trip. You haven’t witnessed anything more beautiful and majestic than to see these 50 or 60 ladies from the UK, Nebraska, Trinidad, South Carolina, etc, strutting down the street in all their finer. heading to dinner….smh.
        Ok…moving on!

        • Tambra

          So you discriminating against us who maybe a little challenged now?

          • No way, shape or form, dear Tam. You could line up all the women I’ve dated since my 20’s, and:
            None would match…
            Only one was tall.(6’3″ barefoot)…
            And FYI: ex-wife was blue-black, 5’4″ and gorgeous…

            • Tambra

              Ok. You got off. *winks*

              • Nik White

                Yes says the 5.2 VSS

                • Tambra

                  I am so happy to be taller than someone .. oh that was bad, but I couldn’t resist.

                • Mochasister

                  5’4 in the house! High five a fellow shorty!

        • Ari

          Lol thanks for sharing. Being tall has many perks, but many of us don’t experience them until later in our adolescent and adult lives.

          • Tambra

            Some of us never do :(

            • Ari

              I understand.

    • Ess Tee

      I think Leslie Jones’ (and Gaby Sidibe’s) aesthetic plays a significant role in the level of abuse she’s getting.

      • Question

        Of course.

      • miss t-lee

        Always.

      • I agree

    • Junegirl627

      the answer is yes. God forbid a Dark skinned black woman who looks like a regular shmegular – you know like the nurse in the hospital, the girl who takes your order at McDonalds, the woman who tell you she the manager when they look for the white man to file their complaint with – be successful in Hollywood. Because the unwritten rule is Amy Schumer can be a regular looking white girl and be successful but an average everyday black woman who looks like an average everyday black woman can not.

      So this is the alarm blaring. A negro has escaped the confines our their preordained acceptability.

      • miss t-lee

        You’re being far too generous with Amy Schumer…lol

        • Nah, Amy Schumer is pretty average looking for a White girl. She’d get decent burn in White circles. Talent is another story.

          • miss t-lee

            She’s nowhere near average looking.

            • I was wondering who’s gonna say it. Lol. I’m like “wait, maybe I better look again.” I don’t dig her or her style. She looks like a giant pasty faced baby with an expression that says they just got caught in a cookie jar.

              • miss t-lee

                She’s odd looking. Her and Lena Dunham, I see both of them and it’s just meh all day.
                Them chicks ain’t average, unless average is hit.

                • B-Dot Willz

                  Lena Dunham is as MEH as they come. She doesn’t have a single distinguishing feature.She manages to look like everybody an nobody special at the same damn time.,

                  • miss t-lee

                    At the same dayum time.

                  • Val

                    Forget how Lena looks, that woman is a child molester. An admitted child molester. Why is she even still working?!

                    • B-Dot Willz

                      Now there is a question that needs an answer if I ever heard one. Remember how people were caping for the dad from 7th Heaven once they found out he was a sexual predator. They had a million excuses for him. It all comes back to them vs us. We will always be “them” .

                    • Buster Cannon

                      I really don’t know how or why people overlook that part of her so much. She outright admitted it!

                    • Val

                      Right. That is the only thing regarding her that needs to be discussed. Everything else is nonsense. FB had her trending today because she took some photos in a swimsuit. You should have seen me rolling my eyes when I saw that in trending topics.

                    • Mary Burrell

                      And on HBO Girls she is naked a lot. She wears ugly clothes and her character is obnoxious.

                    • Blueberry01

                      Well, who you are on the inside eventually comes out.

                    • Janelle Doe

                      right? QTNA!!

                    • Janelle Doe

                      While we are calling out the double standards let’s not forget Charlie Sheen

                    • Mochasister

                      That was disgusting. I felt sorry for her sister.

              • Mochasister

                Lol at “giant, pasty faced baby.”

          • Hammster

            Very average looking…or bit below.

        • Junegirl627

          sidebar…. that chick disgusts me. I like blue humor. I laugh at simone and other REAL comediennes all the time. but she isn’t funny. I actually think that her form of humor promotes rape culture. Even though feminists cape really hard for her.

          • miss t-lee

            I’m not a fan of her comedy, at all.

          • Junegirl627

            and by promotes raaape culture i mean that most of her jokes are about how much or a sluttt she is and how much she loves to get wasted and have questionable sezz.

            The same stuff that men use to say a woman “asked” for it

            (sidebar) I hate what disqus has done to my ability to look like an educated person with and a reading level that’s higher than 3rd grade.

            • Kas

              Are you from the South? Val told me to ask.

              • Junegirl627

                Brooklyn born and raised but the family is from the south.

              • Tambra

                Liar!

                • Kas

                  From yesterday:

                  “Kas
                  So many smart-azz comments I want to make. But I don’t have time today to fight the entire South Contingency of the comment section. Y’all roll too deep.

                  Val
                  Don’t be scared.”

                  I tell no lies.

                  • Val

                    Sorry, Buddy, Tam didn’t fall for it. She knows it was all you instigating. Lol As usual.

                    • Kas

                      Y’all just want let me be great.

                    • Tambra

                      You do that to yourself.

                    • Kas

                      Uhhh, hmmm, well not all the time.

                    • Tambra

                      True enough.

                    • Cheech

                      That new avi is funny

                  • Tambra

                    That doesn’t mean ” Kas,ask ______ if they are from the south”

                    • Kas

                      If you can’t see it, I can’t show it to you.

                    • Kas

                      Tomato tahmahto

                  • Nik White

                    Dang-Is that the busing I hear coming?

              • Blueberry01

                She’s from Brooklyn.

                • Kas

                  How did you know this.

                  • Blueberry01

                    Because I know errythang, pimp.?

                    …and I have a pretty good memory….

            • Jennifer

              “and by promotes raaape culture i mean that most of her jokes are about how much or a sluttt she is and how much she loves to get wasted and have questionable sezz.

              The same stuff that men use to say a woman “asked” for it”

              She can talk about all of the sloppy chex via her unfunny jokes all she wants. She’s grown. She’s consenting. Is that promoting raqe culture? I don’t think so. Is any of it funny? Not really — except maybe for the jokes she jacked from Patrice O’Neal (RIP).

              • Junegirl627

                Sorry was in Disqus jail

                She promotes a segment of raaape culture because a sezz with a woman under the influence is wrong. If you’re with a woman and she’s been drinking you should wait til she sobers up to approach the posibility of intercourse. If a woman consents to sezz while under the influence of anything (including alcohol) it is not considered Consensual and the person who sleeps with them can be charged with raaaape even if the drunk woman is the aggressor in seeking out sezzz.

                So a woman making jokes about getting sloppy drunk and then having sloppy sezzand making it a laughing matter promotes raaape culture. Because she is making it sound fun. Like its not a big deal.

                So yes she is grown (even though that makes it worse because she should know better) but She’s not consenting in the eyes of the law if shes under the influence. and to laugh and make others laugh about it is stupid and dangerous.

        • Buster Cannon

          Yeah, from my understanding the white dudes don’t really find her attractive lol

          • miss t-lee

            She’s anti-cute

          • grownandsexy2

            Probably cause she ain’t a size 2.

            • Tambra

              Question how many ‘real’ women, and I mean women who do not have personal trainers, dressers etc on staff, are size 6 and under?

            • Mochasister

              Like Leslie I don’t find Schumer funny either.

      • ALM247

        Your last sentence= gold.

    • miss t-lee

      Gabby has been getting hate from the jump and still is getting hate.
      How dare a confident big, Black woman who excels at her craft get any shine?

    • Val

      A lighter complexion will not save any of us from those that attack us. Sure having a darker complexion plays into certain racist tropes but it’s not like anyone of this ilk is going to balk at attacking a Black woman or person because they’re brownskin or lightskinned.

      • I will agree to disagree. I think being white passing is advantageous to many black women as it concerns attacks similar to this. Still, being a black woman in general is already doubly bad in our society.

        • Val

          Lol Whoa, AP, White passing? That’s pretty extreme. There are a whole lot of Black women that fall in between dark and White passing that have to deal with stuff on a daily basis.

      • Blueberry01

        True, but the type of attacks against light-skinned women isn’t always proportional to those of dark-skinned women.

    • ALM247

      And a lot of the hate aimed at Sidibe came from Black men….

  • Skegeeaces

    This.

  • Vanity in Peril

    Has anyone been watching that HBO show Vice Principals? It touches on all of this and I’m not even sure it was intentional.

    • bear_in_nola

      I think I will watch now. I’ve otherwise heard good things about it.

      • Vanity in Peril

        The second episode triggered me so badly I was shaking but it’s a funny show. Danny Mcbride and jody hill have gone on record as saying that this is not a sjw ‘message’ series which makes me like it more because what they are saying is slipping out from their subconscious instead.

        • bear_in_nola

          Thanks for the rec!

    • Illumina

      Yes. It definitely touches on this. I need to catch the last two episodes.

  • miss t-lee

    I’m glad that the FBI is involved. Some heads need to roll.
    As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not a fan of her comedy, however after reading her story about her literally grinding for years to reach this level of success I can’t help but appreciate her for making it. Having to deal with this kinda sh*t that’s been thrown her way is sickening.
    They’re literally harassing this woman for doing her job.

    • Watch it be some dusty black man behind the hack

      • miss t-lee

        I don’t think so. This has already been linked to supporters of some white kat that was banned from twitter.

        • And that White guy is his own trip. Whodathunkit that playing up how you’re a gay queen could be married to otherwise horrible racial and $exual attitudes. And I hope he’s bluffing about only humping Black guys. Those brothers need an intervention STAT.

          • miss t-lee

            Oh wow. You hipped me to details I had no idea about.
            I just remember reading about him, who he was, and him getting banned.

          • Honey… white, gay queens may steal black culture and identities but they are just as fukked up as their straight counterparts. And yes- he will fetishize the shyt out of black bucks and still be a racist.

            • I know gay White guys get racist, but I’ve never seen them get so bold and flagrant with it. He’s the new breed of racist in the gay community.

              • You haven’t seen it… white queens are the worse.

              • Nik White

                He hasn’t met up with the right black buck yet.

          • will_the_thrill

            I googled this man’s name, and now I’m mad at every white gay I’ve ever met. White gays deserve better. Well, they don’t, but they should.

            • In an ideal world, a group of gay White dudes would pull him aside and encourage him to do better. I doubt it will happen though.

              • lkeke35

                It’s possible not many of them know about him becuz he don’t associate. He hates gay men too.

                • Mary Burrell

                  I have met quite a few racist gay white males in the workplace. In fact his father was a KKK member in Mississippi. He had to stay in the closet when he would go visit his father in Mississippi. I guess klansmen hate lgbt folks as well as other non white folks.

                • Dude needs a hug or twenty-five. LOL

          • Cleojonz

            Self hatred will have you doing all kinds of things. SMDH.

          • lkeke35

            Yeah. Milo Y is a gay white man who hates himself, talks shyt about all other gay people and hates women and all PoC. That man has got some issues!

        • And you don’t think black people are involved in those groups?

          • Question

            What groups? Its the CTO of Breitbart, Mylo Something-greek-sounding behind the hack and the Twitter assault.

            • miss t-lee

              Thank you.

            • I didn’t know they had been identified. Sheesh

            • Cheech

              Yianopoulos, I think.

              • Blueberry01

                He’s Greek?

              • Question

                Yea, him.

          • miss t-lee

            I’m not saying they aren’t. However, this started from one place…Question mentioned it below.

            • I wasn’t aware.

              • miss t-lee

                Yeah. This is where the first round of stuff go started, they’re thinking it’s still the same folks.

                • …and he’s quite the azzhole.
                  Someone should put the fear of God on him.

                  • miss t-lee

                    Somebody gotta pull a Shug Knight/Vanilla Ice move on him.

                • Oh ok. I’ve been off the grid so I’m getting bits and pieces here. Thank you.

          • Brandon Allen

            Honestly, I don’t think black people are typically masterminding these hate groups/attacks. Henchmen/goon evil.

            • La Bandita

              Untrue. The MRA has lots of Black men it. It’s where a Black man and a White man can come together against a Black women.

              • Brandon Allen

                “Typically” Of course there’s black men doing this kind of stuff. Not absolving anyone just doesn’t appear to be a black figurehead like Milo out here doing this sort of stuff.

                • La Bandita

                  That just means Black men are not as organized in there hate. Plus the police shootings distracted a bunch of them. But if they had more leisure time – they have many figureheads on u tube.

                  • lkeke35

                    Yeah, the only difference is White men have formed whole organizations dedicated to nothing but dragging white women. The crazy part seems to be that dragging black people seems to be a side effect of them hating white women.

                    • La Bandita

                      No Black men were hating on Black women separate from White men hating White women. Now they’ve joined forces to create a super power of hate.

              • lkeke35

                And they can be in MRA if they want, but it’s not good for them, no matter what they do. the MRA hates black men too.

              • Duff Soviet Union

                I don’t think there are many black MRA’s. They’re basically a white supremacist organisation. I know self hate is a big thing, but that movement is overwhelmingly white.

                Remember that guy “Obsidian” who used to post these long diatribes here about how black women were the root of all evil? He’s one, but there aren’t many.

                • La Bandita

                  There are lots of Black men MRA.
                  And PUA. 75% of the million man march. The Mens Right Association put itself out as a conservative organization that felt the problem w/Black people were Black families and the break down of the Black family was Black women. Listen to Bill Cosby. He didn’t know racist Whites were using his speaches. Or did he?

                  Some say its left over from pimp culture which goes hand in hand w/rape culture. But the men that were harrassing Serena were Black AND White. I suspect the same for Leslie.

          • La Bandita

            Black men are involve in the MRA. It’s the Men’s Right Movement. It’s run by racist White men, but Black men are members. They usual attack and dox Black women on line, so Black men can be associate w/it.

        • Asiyah

          MILO, THAT WHITE KAT BANNED FROM TWITTER, IS A SH*THEAD AND HE NEEDS TO GET A WHOOPING!

          • miss t-lee

            Amen.

          • Nik White

            Here! Hear!

      • When they leaked Jill Scott, my first thought was “A Black man did this.” This time, I think it was young Trump voters at work.

        • What is it about black women that causes everyone to hate us so much?

          • Black and woman. It’s the social hierarchy double whammy.

            • I hope she can find peace out of all of this.

              • I hoe she finds some Game of Thrones type revenge.

                • Tambra

                  Golden crown, perhaps?

                  • Complete with wine glass sip.

            • PinkRose

              You left out outspoken! ;)

              • PDL – Cape Girl Shero

                I don’t know you but I’m glad you came back.

                • PinkRose

                  I ain’t going no where, I’m just at an out of town meeting this week! ;)

              • Janelle Doe

                (and/or) as Jesse Williams put it – FREE :-)

              • Black Women don’t say half the things in public that they say after that 3rd Smirnoff Ice.

                • Medium Meech

                  Smirnoff Ice? Haven’t black women been through enough? SHAME SHAME SHAME

                • PinkRose

                  Not the Black women in my circle, we have NO problem stating facts!!!

                  It’s called middle age, Black don’t crack confidence!!

                • LeeLee

                  This is me.

          • Val

            Is it hate? Or is it anger aimed at us because we refuse to bow down? Or because we refuse to be who they want us to be? It seems like they are angry that Leslie stepped out of the boundaries they wanted to create for her and other Black women.

            Hate also implies that they consider us. I don’t think they really do. They just notice us when we enter into something they care about, like the Ghostbusters remake. Otherwise we’re invisible to them.

            • Asiyah

              It can be a whole bunch of things. Hatred and anger because you don’t bow down. They might only consider you as means to an end, but trust me, you’re considered.

            • PinkRose

              PREACH Val! And folks need to REFUSE to allow their self worth be defined by folks who could give a rat’s a $$ about them!!

            • kingpinenut

              It is hate because black women are the source of life….and white folks know it…. plus they white.

          • Blueberry01

            They hate us cuz they ain’t us…

          • Duff Soviet Union

            Racism + Sexism = Misogynoir.

      • why smh

      • Tambra

        Though it may be endorsed by the likes of Tommy Sotomayor.

        • I don’t wish death on anyone but he is a walking pile of feces.

          • Tambra

            A very apt description

      • mssporadic

        I don’t think black dudes care that much about Ghostbusters.

        • I was more so speaking about black men who hate black women doing this but I have been informed otherwise

          • mssporadic

            I see…

            On the ‘net, I think black men (in general) tend to post negative comments about black women or post ignorant victim blaming type comments. They don’t raise to this level of public trolling unless it’s a black woman they actually know like ex-bae.

            I don’t think black men entice a collective of their fellow trolls to attack on a global scale. From what I’ve seen this is mostly a white male thing. Gamergate is a good example.

            • La Bandita

              Untrue. Black men are part of PUA, MRA, and Gamergate. Even though it’s run by White guys.

              • mssporadic

                My point was that they don’t run it.

                • La Bandita

                  Sending a hate filled message is running w/it. When Black dont do that then we can say that. They don’t have to organize the hate to be hateful. just be part of it.

    • PriceIsRightHorns

      For. Doing. Her. D*mn. Job.

      Her emotions must be all over the place. She bounced back from the Twitter abuse, got invited to Rio and then came back to the highest level of f*ckery. I hope they find the clowns responsible for this.

      • miss t-lee

        Girl…for real.
        Like…you can’t exist for just doing your job? What kinda sh*t is that?

        • PriceIsRightHorns

          It’s quite baffling. Milo and his ilk need to be regulated in these e-streets. The verbal abuse that transpires is repugnant.

        • That’s just being Black at work. We’ve all seen this on a smaller scale.

          • miss t-lee

            I know that. However I can go to my job and exist in some kind of peace because I’m not in public eye.
            She doesn’t really have that luxury, unfortunately.

            • We exist in “some sort of peace” because they will never say what they want to say to your face. I live it everyday. If I give them a directive, and they’re just about to walk out of my office, and I catch that shrug/mumble/eyeroll…
              “Tell you what, could come back in here for a second.”
              Then they look at you like “wha-who-huh?”

              • miss t-lee

                LOL
                And then…those are the people going online and talking sh*t because they won’t do it to your face.

                • grownandsexy2

                  I remember in the not so long ago, working at a place where they would say certain things to your face and not think it racist. Between that and the ongoing sexual harassment from my boss . . . . . .Chile

                  • miss t-lee

                    Oh hellz nah.
                    Sorry you had to deal with that.

                    • grownandsexy2

                      Thanks. That’s corporate America for you. You learn a lot of things in high school and college, but none of those teachings tell you how to survive the corporate world.

                    • miss t-lee

                      True, so true.

                  • LadyJay?

                    Ongoing? HR is non existent?

                    • grownandsexy2

                      That was a while ago and sometimes it’s just easier to move on than to go to HR believe it or not. And the Commission on Human Relations, which deals with discrimination/racism was never really that effective, IMO. I did wait until the project was completed and just moved on. I’m pretty certain none of them had ever spent any time around black people as Philly was and still is pretty segregated, but the majority of them lived in the lily white suburbs anyway. The only blacks they seemed to be exposed to were the blacks on the 11:00 news and thought they were complimenting me when they said I was not like other black people because I wasn’t raised in the streets. *Sigh*

                      As if that wasn’t bad enough, I was invited to a party at the boss’ house (who was the sexual harasser) but didn’t attend because alcohol and whites are generally a bad mix anyway when a black face is in the midst and I didn’t feel like dodging his hands and other body parts. I already knew how that was going to play out so I stayed home. His wife called the office, cursed me out for not attending, and he came in the following Monday angry for the same reason and because I cursed his wife back. That experience was a trip. But that company and its players were not unique. Some are subtle with their racism and others are in your face. The stories I could tell.

                    • NicT

                      HR is about protecting the company, not the employees and short of being assaulted in front of 4-5 witnesses, they’ll usu. say it’s he said/she said or too ambiguous. And some of them just escalate a way to fire you for complaining tbh.

                • Eggzacklee

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              • LadyJay?

                BAWSSSSSE! Love it.

                • If this is the only “perk” I get. I’m gonna have at it.

              • Mochasister

                Nice picture!

              • Blueberry01

                YES! The fake-disbelief-expression-because-I-got-caught-being-contemptuous.

            • Janelle Doe

              I just came online to add that upon reading an article on this where the journalist juxtaposed their write-up on this with Ryan Lochte getting a spot on Dancing with the Stars (meanwhile she is being accused to doing this herself for publicity) I am beyond speech at the moment.

              • miss t-lee

                Oh wow.
                Someone thinks she’s hacked herself?
                Mess.

                • Tambra

                  I can’t even comment. Like seriously, but people will defend anything.

                  • miss t-lee

                    Anything!

              • Val

                Huh? Lockte is going to be on Dancing with the Stars?

                • yep…. *cough* bullshyt.. but he has no other money coming in sooooo….

                  • ALM247

                    Unfortunately, Al Roker is trending on Facebook for catching heat from telling the truth about Lochte. Allegedly “The Today Show” staffers are embarrassed that Roker called Lochte out.

                    • cakes_and_pies

                      This isn’t funny, but it is. Today foisted him to where he is now, and now that’s he’s “stepping out of line” they are acting like grown a** babies. That show is such a joke.

                    • Blueberry01

                      Typical #HouseNegro strategy employed by WP. They thought he’d “stay in line” and “show the others how to act”, if they threw him a bone.

                    • Cleojonz

                      Embarrassed for why? He was right! They should be backpeddling and saying sorry we doubted you Al.

                    • Val

                      I saw that, I was like wtf. Talk about bizzaro world. Al was the voice of reason. If anyone needs to catch h3ll it’s that Billy person.

                    • He kept sat “embellishing”..I wanted to fight him.

                    • Mochasister

                      You would have to get in line. Oh and what about those people calling Lochte and the others “boys” and “kids” having fun. Lochte ain’t been a boy in many moons.

                    • Shanna

                      Can’t stand Billy Bush

                    • Yeah I’m working on an open letter.

                    • no one cares

                      no one cares about your letter. no one is going to listen to it. you are wasting your time. it will end up in the trash

                    • Medium Meech

                      I appreciate all the Aaliyah flavored visuals you’re giving us. She holds a special place in young Meech’s heart.

                    • ?
                      She is very much Detroit’s daughter. ?

                    • lkeke35

                      Lol!

                    • Blueberry01

                      #RIPBabyGirl

                      Negra, don’t fall for this clown’s tactics.

                    • Janelle Doe

                      I can’t even

                    • Mochasister

                      I was proud of Al. Lochte is the emperor walking around like some naked fool. Al dared to point out his nudity.

                • I am working on a piece about him now

                • Jennifer

                  It was apparently in the works before the Olympics. But, the Olympics happened, so why is he still inking that deal? They couldn’t find another Olympian or C-List Disney star to take his place?!

                  • Val

                    Exactly. At this point he needs to go. And we all know that had Gabby told that lie he did in the works or not she would have been dropped in a heartbeat.

                    • Nik White

                      They would have asked her to return those metals and canceled her endorsement deals post haste.

                • LadyJay?

                  Yap

                • Nik White

                  Yeah -he has to make up for the Ralph Lauren Speedo money that he lost.

                • Janelle Die

                  he sure is Val. And that woman cook with the racial slurs too. Paula someone.

                  • Val

                    Paula Deen? Well, they don’t have to worry about me watching. Smh.

                    • Shanna

                      Paula was on a few seasons ago, unless they’re bringing her back.

                    • Mary Burrell

                      Steve Harvey went to Paula Deen and said he forgave her so there’s that.

                    • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

                      I won’t be watching either.

                  • Cheech

                    They should make them dance with each other. On a floor waxed with bacon grease.

                    • Janelle Doe

                      Chuckle. Or could they at least rename the Show, these two are far from Stars. Though I don’t know what they should call them.

                • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

                  That’s wild. Lochte going to Dancing with the Stars is another proof that white privilege is real.

                • Cheech

                  Oh FFS.

              • lkeke35

                Actually, blaming the harassment on the victim is a common GamerGate tactic. It’s what they do/did after harassing several female game critics out of their jobs. Their nonsensical bs is that the victim did it to themselves, or made it up for attention.

                • Janelle Doe

                  Wow. I would like Stephen Colbert or John Oliver to take this on. Especially the latter. He’d be good sto dissect and decimate this vile stuff and reveal what’s behind the curtain for what it is.

          • Mika

            Yea, like everyday at work.

        • WPshit

          • miss t-lee

            Listen.

    • Absofugginlutely

    • Janelle Doe

      ok and also is Twitter blocking people’s accounts for anything that pile on? I must ask can (can’t) social media sites do some evolving to better protect people from this sort of abuse?

      • Illumina

        They can but they won’t.

        For example, highly visible black women have been complaining about twitter’s troll and abuse problem for years. But they won’t because even trolls are users. Twitters valuation relies on such metrics as user growth. If Twitter actually put in place tools to combat online abuse, alot of these trolls would leave the service. Twitter doesn’t want that happening.

        So Twitter will throw users a bone every now and then, but until there is a mass migration away from the service, I don’t think they have enough incentive to change.

        • Val

          I’m not usually a proponent for creating our own just because there’s a problem but in this case starting our own version of twitter would be a perfect response.

          For one, twitter is vulnerable financially at the moment. Second, we Black folks are disproportionately high users of twitter. Which means, in this instance, that taking our collective business elsewhere would have a huge impact not only on twitter by on social media in general.

          • Illumina

            I think that would be a great idea! Unfortunately my coding skills aren’t up to snuff.

            It’s hard as h*ll to get funding for black startups. I don’t really know of any black VC firms.

            • PinkRose

              Mine are reasonably solid, I’m just very busy using them to address health disparities. But I’ll run this idea by a few tech sista’s I’m connected to on LinkedIn and see what their thoughts are about.

            • NonyaB

              Have you looked lately? There are quite a few now: Smashd Labs, 500 Startups (just launched a $25 million fund for Black and Latino led companies), Kobe Bryant just launched a $100M fund, etc. Also wouldn’t ignore non-Black VCs; it’s about who invests in your industry at your company stage.

          • Quirlygirly

            Val, I soo agree with you on this.

            I just think if we did have our own version on twitter- we would end up like gawker. It would be bright, it would be brilliant and it would be gone.

          • PinkRose

            Heavy sigh!! There’s just s much I could say about how Black folks use tech versus how “other” folks use it.

            • Val

              Lol Say it, PinkRose. You’re not one to hold back.

              • Mary Burrell

                She doesn’t take no tea for the fever.

        • Duff Soviet Union

          Twitter is just a joke. Basically they enable this because trolls are their number one fastest growing demographic and create revenue. Of course, their overall growth is minimal because for every troll who signs up, there’s someone (most commonly a black woman) leaving in disgust. And yet, they still won’t fix it. They can, they just won’t. Hiring more black woman programmers would go a long way to fixing this.

      • miss t-lee

        I’m not sure. i know they’ve supposedly been cracking down on harrassment as of late.

        • Duff Soviet Union

          They haven’t.

          • miss t-lee

            I don’t believe they have either.

    • Your Mama

      where’s the brothers though, why they never outraged when things like this happen to us. it feels like we are collectively fighting these battles alone? Why they not mad, b/c Leslie isn’t lightskinned, mulatto looking and cute to them? im just confused..

      • Jo ‘Mama’ Besser

        You’re not confused, you just answered your own question.

      • Mary Burrell

        Yes that’s why they aren’t caring.

  • PDL – Cape Girl Shero

    I hope Leslie is not deterred by the foolishness of it all. I don’t think so though, because she was back on Twitter for the Olympics. Cowards. She don’t need acceptance, she just need to get paid.

  • I wish we circled the wagons around her earlier.

    • I think a lot of that comes from many not being a fan of hers as well as how she is perceived aesthetically like AP stated down thread.

      • miss t-lee

        This is sadly true.

  • We clap back by continuing to be great and unified.
    They lose sleep typing.

  • Brandon Allen

    Can someone hip me to what sparked these attacks on Leslie specifically? Why does this turd from Breitbart have it our for her? The sacredness of Ghostbusters was ruined by the black woman or something?

    • Geechi_Luciano

      literally that’s the only reason.
      they’re disgusted that a black woman landed that role.

      • Cheech

        They do understand that a Black man had that role in the original, and that in the remake all the original roles are filled with women?

    • Ess Tee

      That’s my read on the situation. That Breitbart sucker and his ilk were already upset over a female remake (as though Ghostbuster is a national treasure). Then you add in a Black woman to the cast, specifically a Black woman who is dark-skinned, tall, curvy, and it was ripe to go alllll the way into misogynoir territory.

      • Detroit Skater

        to lazy to google for myself, but wasn’t earnie hudson an original GB?

        internet trolls/cowards are one if the worst type.

      • Tambra

        He is a misogynist, who seems to think him being gay gives him the excuse for being nasty. He ramped up the gamergate controversy. I think , am subject to correction, that it was from that he managed he was propelled to his position at Breitbart.

        • Ess Tee

          That’s the other thing, too. This idea that because one is gay that they are devoid of any other prejudices and biases.

          My really good friend is a gay, Black man, and we’ve talked about the racism and prejudice he’s experienced from White gay men.

        • Jennifer

          The Gamergate thing still makes my head hurt. YT male fragility is a muthafucka.

          • Tambra

            Girl! How dare a woman leave a man.

    • MoMoG

      She had the nerve to be a black woman cast in a remake. And when they attacked her on twitter for it, she did not cower. So this Milo guy encouraged his legion of trolls to try and destroy her. And again, she fought back until she couldn’t take anymore and left twitter. The loveforlesliej hashtag was born to support her in this fight and people reported Milo as a serial racist and harasser. As a result in Milo being banned from twitter for life. A month later… they hacked her website.

  • Other_guy13

    It seems that every time a black woman breaks the mold of what society thinks she should be, there’s some a$$hole who attacks her. It doesn’t make sense…this woman is brilliant and beautiful and has fought HARD AF to break through. Why on earth would someone try to break her down. It really pisses me off because its the same D@mn rape culture that continues to be unchecked by Thumb Thuggin cretins . These small minded milksop’s wouldn’t approach her to hurl their insults if she were there. They can only do their dirt in the dark and I for one am over them. She shouldn’t have to rise above this…she should go after them with everything she has. I’m glad this is being investigate but I also have no faith justice will be done because she is a black woman. If she gets an Erin Andrews sort of justice I will be surprised. I don’t care what color these people are…they are cowards, fools, and the worst type of people. I hope they stub their toe everyday for eternity and get paper cuts in their eyeballs. Don’t make no dang sense folks doing this to a woman who has worked so hard to get where she has and all she wants to do is bring joy to peoples lives with laughter and her personality. SMH

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