the black pass

sometime last week i decided to put all of my kanye-influenced music into one itunes playlist. from “this can’t be life” to the original version of “homecoming“, anything that had any type of connection to the arrogant one is now compiled in one neat little pocket, like a card case or a bottle of ky. while doing this, i came across the forgettably underrated “drive slow“, a track from late registration featuring paul wall, which immediately reminded me of a conversation i had with a friend a couple years ago. this friend, who’s usually a cross between undercover brother, “hooper x” from “chasing amy”, sonja sanchez, sister t, and tookie williams, surprisingly had no issue when finding out that mr. wall was married to a black woman.

“he gets a pass” he remarked, “any n*gga with a degree with a song on their album titled “Sip-n-Da Barr” can bone whoever the hell they want. he gets a black pass”

loosely defined as the possession of status that allows a particular white person to bone/date/marry a black person with general approval (on both sides) from the black community, the doleing out of the black pass is as synonymous to black culture as grape kool-aid, long-winded church names, and grade school playground acorn fights around the swings.

in true vsb.com fashion, we’ll identify and examine a couple members of this elite club.

bobby deniro

claim to fame:

like the champ, deniro is a living icon, one of the five greatest actors of all-time.

reasons for making the cut:

—black women love portrayals of bad boys on film, and no one has ever done this better or with more swagger than bobby d.

he’s been romantically linked with black women for basically his entire adult life (chris rock once joked that the only thing a white chick could do for robert deniro is tell him where the sistas is at)

—at least one of his movies (goodfellas, the godfather part 2, casino, a bronx tale, heat, or the adventures of rocky and bullwinkle) is on basically every black males top ten movie list

honorable mentions:

al pacino, james gandolfini, quentin tarentino, pat riley, steve nash, bill maher, jon b circa 1995, peter north, terrance howard

tina fey

claim to fame:

an award winning actress, writer, director, and producer, fey is the funniest woman in america, and has been for at least the past five years.

reasons for making the cut:

—fey combines a level of sharp-ass wit that all women of color appreciate with the exact right amount of non-threatening sex appeal that allows black men to openly and freely profess that she get it while in the presence of black women...who will actually nod in approval or co-sign (“yeah. if i had a w*ng i’d bag her too” ). an astoundingly ground-breaking feat!!!!

—three words: sarah palin impressions. each palin snl skit extends fey’s black pass another 15 years. at this point she could shank tristan wilds at the emmy’s and it still wouldnt affect her standing

honorable mentions:

teena marie. this is it. there have been no other white women in the history of white womendom to receive black passes other than teena marie and tina fey. sans pink for a day or two in the summer of 2001, no one else has ever come even close.

am i forgetting anyone?

—the champ

  • http://nextbigthing.blogsome.com Hostess

    So you sayin’ Terrance Howard isn’t Black??

    I don’t issue Black passes. But I have heard the following names tossed about:

    Justin Timberlake
    Eminem
    Robin Thicke
    Bill Clinton

    • tits mcgee

      keep wild Bill on the list. hittin’ switches in the oval office and ending up on Oprah to talk about it? he definitely gets a pass.

      • http://nextbigthing.blogsome.com Hostess

        Being Black isn’t about doing ‘hood rat’ things though.

        • Gem of the Ocean

          it’s d@mn near impossible to define “being black”. when it comes to non-members (as i like to call them), a “pass” is always going to be based on some type of stereotype, whether good, bad or hood.

          • http://nextbigthing.blogsome.com Hostess

            When I think ‘pass’, which I do not give out, I think of someone who is accepted into the community. Someone who is comfortable around US and who we are equally comfortable around. Someone who isn’t trying to be down. They are just being themselves. But what would I know since I am not a pass issuer?

            • Gem of the Ocean

              gotcha.

            • Leila

              I concur! I can’t really think of too many famous people who fit this, but I know some people that live in my community.

            • http://nextbigthing.blogsome.com Hostess

              Darn. I hit reply too soon and ran out of editing time.

              I’m thinking this ‘pass’ y’all are giving out is kinda like when a white person says Oprah, OJ, and Obama have transcended race. They are accepted into the white (mainstream) community because of who they are but NOT rejected because of skin color.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                “I’m thinking this ‘pass’ y’all are giving out is kinda like when a white person says Oprah, OJ, and Obama have transcended race”

                its not about transcending race as much as its about transcending sneers and side-eyes. as sensitive as many of us are about interracial dating, i dont think the people i named would emit any type of animus. for instance, if a black woman was seen in public with bobby d, i dont think she’s receive any of the eye rolls and teeth sucking that black women who date white men usually say they receive when they’re seen in public. is this making sense? i havent had my toast yet, so it might not

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

              “Someone who isn’t trying to be down. They are just being themselves”

              in a nutshell and sh*t

            • http://singlesisterspeak.wordpress.com/ Nicki Sunshine

              Yeah, I don’t like giving them passes b/c it makes em too comfortable… “the Others” as I affectionately call them. I had an Other friend and b/c she dated black men as was thick, people would tell her, “girl you black, you one of us,” and I’ve heard her say the N-bomb a couple of times… too comfortable.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                “I’ve heard her say the N-bomb a couple of times… too comfortable”

                how did you react?

              • http://nextbigthing.blogsome.com Hostess

                They don’t get a pass because they get ‘a pass’–if you get what I’m saying. They are still able to enjoy the undeniable benefits of having skin that’s a color other than BLACK! They are able to up and decide one day that they don’t want to be down anymore. They get the benefits of being down without all the real BS that comes with really being BLACK. Naw. No passes here.

              • http://singlesisterspeak.wordpress.com/ Nicki Sunshine

                I am guilty of ignoring it. She never called anybody an N bomb, but she’d say it when quoting someone, which to me is just as bad. It gave me chills to hear her say it, but she’ll pull tears in a minute and I always imagined her crying if I corrected her.

                We fell out and hadn’t spoken for a while… now we aren’t as close so she doesn’t say them around me. I turned over this new leaf called BE-HONEST-WITH-YOUR-FEELINGS and promised to get at her if I heard her saying it again. Better me telling her than someone else beating her down.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                “Better me telling her than someone else beating her down.”

                this is true

              • http://nextbigthing.blogsome.com Hostess

                Sorry but that whole crying thing is somewhat typical when certain folks get called on their BS. (see Elisabeth H. from The View)

    • http://insidethemindofadeviant.wordpress.com Deviant

      you shouldve named eminem first then Bill clinton. Also MC Serch, he had a hi top jew fade

      • http://www.MrSwagger.com J. McFly

        I don’t know about Eminem, he’s on some crazy sh*t, buggin out on his chick Kim, you know a black women is not beat for that

        • http://insidethemindofadeviant.wordpress.com Deviant

          like you dont know any crazy black people that do that. Maybe thats just me

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        i can see search making the cut under my criteria. shady, not so much

    • http://myspace.com/thomasforbes Monk

      Eminem, being tied with Jay-Z as the G.O.A.T., definitely gets a pass. Even though his lyrics can be zany and laced with white wit and trailor park-ness, dude’s just DOPE enough to be accepted into negro-dom.

    • portobella

      @,

  • overit

    There is a pass, but none of the above have the “get it” factor. Mayyybe Robin Thicke if he is singing, non-stop, but I still see Nsync in Timberlake, ever now and then I see a flash of Mickey Mouse Club across his face.

    I can’t think of anyone, but I’ll be back in the am!

    • Leila

      Justin Timberlake lost his pass after the incident with Janet Jackson and his speech after that at the Grammy’s…

      • V Renee

        I agree. I will give him a BytchAzzNess pass though.

        • Gem of the Ocean

          LOL @ the BAN pass. we need a separate post dedicated to fools who get issued those.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            “LOL @ the BAN pass. we need a separate post dedicated to fools who get issued those.”

            there you go, gem. i commission you to begin that project

            • Gem of the Ocean

              i got your back, Champie. i’ll submit my report to you once i’ve compiled enough data.

        • Vixen

          I agree!!!!!

          but he really never had one

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        “Justin Timberlake lost his pass after the incident with Janet Jackson”

        he lost it? i dont think he ever had one

        • miss t-lee

          I was wondering who gave him one…lol

  • http://blackwomanlost.blogspot.com Naturally Alise 2.0

    most of the time anyone biracial gets a pass….

    oh speaking of “drive slow”, had anyone else had been on that song but paul wall you probablywould not refer to it as underrated or even remotely a good song…. that song sucks thoroughly….

    • Gem of the Ocean

      2.0??

      • http://pbghappenings.blogspot.com/ PBG

        Natural Alise, The Original wasn’t able to post her comments. VSB.com was seeing her as spam. She had to reinvent herself.

        • Gem of the Ocean

          remix it up. i dig it.

    • V Renee

      The remix/video to Drive Slow was hawt…maybe I love it cause it had T.I. in it.

    • miss t-lee

      “Drive Slow” did not showcase the best of Paul Wall.

    • http://graywords1000@yahoo.com Dorian G.

      See this is ridiculous.

      At first listen on the album this is easily the best song on the album. One year later its still one of the top 3 songs on the album.

      • http://blackwomanlost.blogspot.com Naturally Alise 2.0

        that is a great album and that is easily the worst on the album…

        • http://graywords1000@yahoo.com Dorian G.

          Your about to make me OHHLA this right now. From the saxophone to the soft jazz beat, plus Kanye’s first verse??? C’mon.

          • miss t-lee

            I like the fact that you used OHHLA as a verb.
            Good job!!! :)

            • http://blackwomanlost.blogspot.com Naturally Alise 2.0

              that is a hot verb!

          • http://naturallyalise.blogspot.com NaturallyAlise

            i dont like it, but your points are valid… however, paul wall sucks on this song and all songs, lol

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        okay…i’m gonna have to agree with NA2.0 here…for one, that beat isn’t one of the best beats ever…hell, Tupac used it on All Eyez On Me for “shorty wanna be a thug” and NOBODY is talking about that being one of the best songs ever…

        i don’t think its terrible, but i was never really feeling it. and there’s no way in the F*CK that it’s one of the best three songs when “Late” “Gone” “Crack Music” and “We Major” are on the album…and i HATED “we major” for a good year.

        • http://blackwomanlost.blogspot.com Naturally Alise 2.0

          I hated that whole album for a minute, but then it grew on me…

        • 8th Wonder

          “Crack Music” still gets me hyped. And is nobody feeling “On My Way Home” like I do?

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            nope.

            • 8th Wonder

              Sadness.

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

              LOL

              • 8th Wonder

                Shut up, you!

        • http://graywords1000@yahoo.com Dorian G.

          There is no planet in which We Major or Crack Music is a better song than Drive Slow.

          Even Pluto, which isn’t a planet anymore.

          • V Renee

            Dorian G – My name is V Renee and I approve this message.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            who knew that Earth ALSO wasn’t a planet anymore. cuz on this here third ROCK from the sun…BOF of those songs are better than Drive Slow.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            ***inserting more people for dorian g***

          • Jen

            Cosign. Why are these people hating on Mr. Wall?

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

              there’s no hatred for Mr. Wall. we just prefer our music history stated accurately. and accurately speaking, “drive slow” is not one of the top 3 songs on Late Registration.

              i didn’t make up this fact. it just is.

              • Jen

                You are clearly not hating, but other people are!!! I love Paul Wall with all my heart. I loved him before I even knew he was white. Ever since I first heard him on the radio, I just KNEEEEWWWW that n!99a was a n!99a. The thought that he might not be never even crossed my mind and nobody ever mentioned it.

                I had no idea he was white until I moved to Florida and my roommate (from P-Cola) presented to me the very first legitimately purchased Paul Wall/Chamillionaire album I had EVER seen in attempt to impress the Houstonian.

                Paul Wall was my favorite in the new crop of Houston rappers when I was in high school. I still bang N Luv Wit My Money every once in a while…same as I do Tops Drop or My Mind Playing Tricks on Me. Memories.

              • http://graywords1000@yahoo.com Dorian G.

                Know how I know you’re wrong? Drive Slow was such a tremendous song that TI re-released King just so he could put the remix on it.

                When’s the last time a big time rapper did that?

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                i’m not sure what bar that really measures against. for one, it didn’t do anything to spur sales for that album. for two, that doesn’t actually mean anything. folks look for reasons to re-release albums all the time hoping that anybody who didn’t have it will go pick it up. you can’t possibly think that T.I. felt that song was SO good that by putting it on his album and re-releasing it, everybody and their mother would run out to get the album.

                nope. not buying it. pun intended.

              • miss t-lee

                @ Jen
                You’re right. It was a while before anyone realized Paul wasn’t Black….lol

            • miss t-lee

              I put on for Paul Wall, baby…

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

              i dont hate mr. wall either. the earth is a much better place with him in it

              • http://myspace.com/shatani shatani

                i hadnt actually noticed, since i make it a point to avoid all things Wall related…

        • http://singlesisterspeak.wordpress.com/ Nicki Sunshine

          Are you kidding? We Major is one of THE BEST tracks. I love Kanye.

          • laylah

            nope, its roses, without a doubt.

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

              i’ll assume that was a joke too. lol.

          • laylah

            and i would like to disagree with the majority and say i love drive slow…

            ***dodging flying objects***

            i think paul wall’s flow is absolutely sick in this song.

            • http://graywords1000@yahoo.com Dorian G.

              I will not apologize (c) The Roots

              The disco ball in my mouth insinuates I’m ballin…

              That line sh!ts on anything Nas said is We Major, or Game said on Crack Music

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                A) one hot line does not a hot song make. ask Canibus. and for what it’s worth, Consequences’s verse on “gone” sh*ts on anything Paul Wall said.

                B) Game doesn’t even RAP on “crack music”. how that even got factored into the equation is beyond me.

                C) I don’t think “Drive Slow” is the worst song on the album. it’s hard to find a worst song, per se, on that album. however, it’s not in the top three as “late”, “gone”, and “crack music” are far superior. period. lol. Kanye’s verse was good, Paul Wall’s verse was good…whoopty doo. doesn’t make it better than “Late”.

              • laylah

                open up my mouth and sunlight illuminates the dark…

                that makes two hot lines :)

                sorry guys, i really love this song.

            • Gem of the Ocean

              i love it too, girl. but i ain’t gon duck. i’s never scurred.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          “and there’s no way in the F*CK that it’s one of the best three songs when “Late” “Gone” “Crack Music” and “We Major” are on the album…and i HATED “we major” for a good year.”

          p, when did you finally come around? i remember us having intense text convos over the validity of this song (which i called the best track of 2005)

          • http://graywords1000@yahoo.com Dorian G.

            How did y’all really like that song????

            It was the most repetitive beat ever, with Nas just hollering “We Major” over and over again.

            Maybe the term “We Major” is hot, but the song…i dunno

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            not sure when i came around. i still dont think its no best track of any particular year, but on that album, it is a standout track…

            i think i just got tired of not liking it or something…lol.

        • shay

          Gone is my shyt

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      i appreciate the name change. see, we got some very smart sistas up here and sh*t too.

      btw, the one drop rule still applies, so theres no pass needed

  • http://www.myspace.com/regal_muse Muse

    Black passes are crap and I don’t give them out to anyone. As Paul Mooney said “everyone wants to be a nigga but no one wants to be a nigga”

    Are you for real with this post Champ? Not one of my favorites….

    What’s with folks thinking that just because a White person has an appreciation for black culture or steals it (ala Justin Timberlake) we can hand them a pass? Maybe with the exception of Robert DeNiro who is actually married to a Black woman (that speaks volumes specially in Hollywood), most White folks don’t have a true appreciation for Black people unless it involved picking cotton or showing them the latest dance moves.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      What’s with folks thinking that just because a White person has an appreciation for black culture or steals it (ala Justin Timberlake) we can hand them a pass?

      i think you missed the point, ms muse. this isn’t about “honorary” black folks…just people who a black person can date (and vice versa) and not be met with disapproval.

      lol…its really not that serious

      • http://keepittrill.blogspot.com Kit (Keep It Trill)

        From Champ: this isn’t about “honorary” black folks…just people who a black person can date (and vice versa) and not be met with disapproval.

        In that case, add to my list:
        - the George Carlin if he were still alive
        - Bill Maher would be fascinating
        - Robin Williams would be fun,
        - essayist Tim Wise, many whom you all have read.

        • JBoogie

          Robin Williams…yep, I’d go with this one…he’s on my list too. Wait, I just realized my whole “white men that can get it” list is populated almost exclusively now with men 40+ years of age…hmm…

        • http://liffy.blogspot.com Luvvie

          Robin Williams?? He is a gorilla with ADD (but I do enjoy him). But to DATE him?? I’ll pass THAT pass.

        • IVR

          Bill Maher for smashing supahead . . . LoL

        • Jen

          No self-respecting Black woman would ever date Bill Maher.

          And what is with all these Godless heathens on your list? You know Black people would be trying to douse holy water on anybody trying to bring George Carlin to the family reunion.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            “And what is with all these Godless heathens on your list? You know Black people would be trying to douse holy water on anybody trying to bring George Carlin to the family reunion.”

            nah they wouldn’t. they’d figure he already got drenched by your wet set of tents.

            • Jen

              You’ve been slinging soggy blankets today, too.

      • shay

        “i think you missed the point, ms muse. this isn’t about “honorary” black folks…just people who a black person can date (and vice versa) and not be met with disapproval.

        lol…its really not that serious”

        lmao i was thinkin the same thing…

  • puff

    i am furious you put terrance howard on this list… i personally revoked his black card after he got a conk. yeah, i said it, a CONK. someone needs to let that ni99a (and i use the term loosely) know that it is no longer 1942. ish is not the business *smh*

    i have a question: does michael jackson technically get a black card now he looks like a white woman on account of services done for the black music community pre-”bad”? or did he lose all right to claim blackness after the nose-job/kiddie molestation/colour #1b yaki pony weave he’s been rocking since “you are not alone”?

    also, under the paul wall theorem would fat joe and big pun (RIP) similarly get a pass?

    • http://www.idatewhite.com Eathan

      Michael lost his card with his nose. You can’t have 2 different noses and keep ya card.

      But that makes me wonder if Mark Wahlberg has one. He is making a mark on movies. aka 4 brothers.

      • http://blackwomanlost.blogspot.com Naturally Alise 2.0

        mark don’t even claim the funky bunch no more, no pass for him….

        • SouthernGirl

          lol. damn! the man is trying to move up in the world…i personally like him better now that he says he’ll never do music again. is pretty much admitting you sucked at it not “claiming” it?

          • Gem of the Ocean

            lol agreed. and really, who wants to remember him strippin down to his undies for no apparent reason?? for the sake of all that is good, let’s all pretend that the “rap” chapter in his life didn’t exist.

            • 8th Wonder

              “and really, who wants to remember him strippin down to his undies for no apparent reason?? ”

              Me. Don’t act like Marky Mark didn’t have body.

              • miss t-lee

                I remember them Calvin Klein ads, and him getting down to the skivvies onstage.

              • Gem of the Ocean

                his body was bangin. but seein a grown (?) man on stage in his drawers bothers me. in my room?? i wouldn’t have a problem.

              • puff

                it was that extra nipple what which got me a lil “eh”. i cannot fault those abs though, and he got a cute smile.

              • 8th Wonder

                extra nipple?

                What is this abomination you speak of?

                I’m apprehensive now.

          • http://blackwomanlost.blogspot.com Naturally Alise 2.0

            but he makes me sick though, he needs to lighten up, can’t you talk about your missteps in jest, if it won’t for the MarkyMark & Calvin Klein days who would know him?

            • SouthernGirl

              i see your point. but i think we all have some sh!t we just don’t want to talk about, even in jest. i don’t think it’s that serious myself but i guess it’s just that touchy for him. oh, well. he’s still hot though. lol.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        between boogie nights and the departed, marky mark has had principle roles in two of my favorite movies. i think i’m enjoying the mark walhberg era.

        btw, other than “keith murray”, was there ever a less creative rap name than “marky mark”?

    • V Renee

      Ummmm did anyone else like his hair in the You Are Not Alone video (minus the fact that he was buckey nakid with a sheet covering his womanly parts)?? Speaking of which, am I the only one that thinks MJ does not have a w*ng?

      • Gem of the Ocean

        *raises hand* i think he’s asexual.

      • kaliber

        MJ is a brunette skipper doll in pajamas. =(

        • http://blackwomanlost.blogspot.com Naturally Alise 2.0

          No, he is Malibu-boo-yo-a$$ Barbie

      • http://singlesisterspeak.wordpress.com/ Nicki Sunshine

        “)?? Speaking of which, am I the only one that thinks MJ does not have a w*ng?”

        HOLY GUACOMOLE! LOL. I think the thought of having intercourse with him just made me lose my appetite.

    • http://insidethemindofadeviant.wordpress.com Deviant

      fat joe and big pun are hispanic they dont need cards

      • miss t-lee

        They were/are Puerto Rican, so no passes would be needed.

      • Gem of the Ocean

        hol’ up, “hispanic” doesn’t necessarily qualify one to be “down”. hispanic covers a WIDE range of people, including very caucasian peoples.

        but i’d partially agree on caribbean latinos not needing cards. despite african roots, many of them do not want to be linked with “negroes”

        • Peyso

          Not all hispanics get cards, just the non uppity dominicans, puerto ricans and the occasional cuban

          • IVR

            Don’t forget about us Panamanians, some of the hondurans, coastal Colombians, Venezuelans (got a black president, even if he is a lunatic) . . . there are a lot of black hispanics running around that you wouldnt think twice about just calling black (such as myself).

            A lot of times I hear that I am not black, which is news to me . . . I may not be african american . . . but we are still black. I normally have to explain it by saying that we got off on the second stop during the free ride to this hemisphere.

        • Vixen

          PREACH!

    • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

      she said he had a CONK…. tee hee haaaaaa!

    • Cheshire Cat

      “#1b yaki pony weave he’s been rocking since “you are not alone”?”

      LMAO!!!!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “also, under the paul wall theorem would fat joe and big pun (RIP) similarly get a pass?”

      this is an interesting question. i think hispanic men (ala giant joe and the deceased obese pun) get “passes” easier than hispanic women do.

      just a theory and sh*t

      • puff

        yeah i think that’s true too. i remember when people weren’t trying cut jennifer lopez any slack for using ni99a on that song with ja rule, although pun and em probably use it more than black people…

        • SouthernGirl

          exactly the example i was thinking of

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          i think with J.Lo its because at the point she used it she had been trying to cross-over and she ALSO never really seemed as much like “jenny from the block” like she made it out to be…basically, at that point in her life, it seemed like the only ninjas she hung out with were puffy and ja rule (for hitmaking purposes).

          it’s like if i heard mariah carey say ninja right now, i might actually be offended. or even soledad o’brien.

          • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

            I didn’t even know Soledad was black until that CNN special…

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

              i’m not even sure i still agree that she’s Black. she’s just a darker skinned white girl.

              • http://myspace.com/Time4SumAkShone AkShone

                ” she’s just a darker skinned white girl.”

                Lol, that reminds me of MURS’s song “D.S.W.G. (Dark Skinned White Girl)”…tight song by the way.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                that’s where i got that from. lol. though I must say Murray’s Revenge was not as hot as Murs 3:16…and i’ve listened to MURS 4 President a solid one time. un.impressed which is sad cuz i like MURS.

              • http://blackwomanlost.blogspot.com Naturally Alise 2.0

                MURS corntastic factor is growing directly proportional with his hairdo…. and that is sad, because i liked MURS too…

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

              “I didn’t even know Soledad was black until that CNN special…”

              she definitely has some black in her.

              if she doesn’t, though, i’d be happy to provide some

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                lol… ur bad.

              • http://myspace.com/shatani shatani

                what did we JUST say about “black by insertion”!?!?

      • http://www.igville.blogspot.com V.E.G.

        I am going to need y’all to start using the term latino/latina.

        • Gem of the Ocean

          thank you.

        • http://myspace.com/shatani shatani

          i feel ya….sometimes i forget too, and i am latina. at least half anyway.

          • Gem of the Ocean

            where yo peoples from??

            • http://myspace.com/shatani shatani

              my daddy’s side is from Panama

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                my name is Panama and I approve your family.

              • 8th Wonder

                Go sit down.

              • http://liffy.blogspot.com Luvvie

                “my name is Panama and I approve your family”

                This made me cackle and snort.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                folks don’t cackle AND snort simultaneously nearly enough…lol.

              • Sk8er H8er

                Watch out there Panama I think she is only referring to her crack habit. You see the code is in the hard consonants of the cackle also notice the double consonant that makes a unison sound ck or cr and snort well we all know that is a resounding reference to blow.

        • miss t-lee

          I use Hispanic because where I live this is what the people call themselves, I’m not trying to offend, my best friend calls herself this.

          • http://www.igville.blogspot.com V.E.G.

            I don’t think anyone is trying to offend.
            Just trying to de-program folks. :)

            • miss t-lee

              Yeah but if you use Latino/Latina (down here) I sometimes get corrected. lol
              Maybe this varies by region?

              • Gem of the Ocean

                see my reply below to #22. people who prefer to be called hispanic have self-hate issues, imho.

              • miss t-lee

                I don’t agree, but I get your point.

          • http://insidethemindofadeviant.wordpress.com Deviant

            I’ve never heard anyone trip about that before

            • http://www.igville.blogspot.com V.E.G.

              Hispanic is a no-no term in Chicago.
              Never had the issue in New Orleans as there were like 5 Latinos in the city. But that was pre-Katrina.

              • SouthernGirl

                Never had the issue in New Orleans as there were like 5 Latinos in the city. But that was pre-Katrina.

                damn it V! I almost choked on my gummy bear. true though…

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                “damn it V! I almost choked on my gummy bear. true though…”

                who eats just one gummy bear?

              • SouthernGirl

                who eats just one gummy bear?

                stop being so literal and sh*t champ! lol. there were many but she almost killed me on one of the last ones (red) if you want to be particular.

              • http://sugahoney.blogspot.com suga

                “Hispanic is a no-no term in Chicago.”

                I live in California, and I’ve never heard that ever. Hispanic, Latino, Chicano…all of those terms are welcomed. It must be a regional thing.

          • JBoogie

            I don’t even use Hispanic…typically, they will TELL you where they/their mama/daddy/grandparents wer from…or you can check out the ever present flag on/around their car somewhere. Assimilated ones…you gotta play wit a little bit.

            • http://insidethemindofadeviant.wordpress.com Deviant

              that is true. if you know anyone from south of the border or the carribean you know for sure where they are from cause its no secret. You dont have to guess like you do with most peoples

              • miss t-lee

                This is true my best friend refers to herself as Hispanic, and her husband who is from Nicaragua, will tell you in a heartbeat that he is proudly Nicaraguan.

              • Gem of the Ocean

                this isn’t always true. the color complex is alive and well within the latino community, across various ethnicities. not everyone from “south of the border” and other latin american countries/islands puts on for their country/island and will say they are simply hispanic.

        • http://adopefiend.com Dope Fiend

          “I am going to need y’all to start using the term latino/latina.”

          VEG said it best.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          question: is the term hispanic insulting, or just non-pc?

          i’m asking because until today, i had no idea that hispanic wasnt a proper adjective/noun to use

          • Gem of the Ocean

            read through the rest of the blog, you’ll see more explanations. and if you still don’t get it *patting Champie on the back* i’ll draw you a diagram.

          • Jen

            It’s not offensive, and its not non-pc.

            Hispanic = Spanish-speaking, from any country (people from Spain, Cuba, Mexico and Argentina are all Hispanic)

            Latino = “Latin American” with no language contingency (People from Mexico, Brazil and Haiti are Latino, but not people from Spain)

            Different people b!tch about both terms for various reasons, typically that one is a Eurocentric term while the other is preferable. Well, they are Both Eurocentric, as is every gd thing else about American linguistic choices. OH TO THE WELL.

            • maria

              @Jen,
              Hispanic can be offensive…there is an association that it was code word for spic…which as I’ve had explained to me derived from “no speaka inglish” in ablitity to speak English correctly. So I don’t use Hispanic or respond to it w/o side eye stares….

  • Gem of the Ocean

    though no one on VSB (except Ivy) knows my mother, she def has a pass. in fact, i don’t think she was actually given one, i think she jacked it from taye diggs–he’s obviously not using it, so it works out. my mother is mexican but she feels this “connection” with black culture. she kinda looks like a sista, i guess. her husband’s black, she has [half] black children. she can throw down on collard greens, potato salad, and mac n cheese. she often refers to 2520s as “mr. charlie” or “the man” or (if she’s extra angry) “crack @$$ crackas”, even tho some of her best friends are 2520s. she’s pretty much ride or die down with the struggle, so to speak.

    if i had any authority (being confused as some one middle eastern or indian probably invalidates the possibility), i’d give her pass a stamp of approval.

    • miss t-lee

      Your Mom reminds me of my best friend…lol

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        “Your Mom reminds me of my best friend…lol”

        ***although tempted, slowly backing away from this statement***

        • miss t-lee

          Her mom reminds me of my best friend because she’s hispanic and can cook greens.
          Get your mind out the gutter young man.

          • Gem of the Ocean

            lol he’s a fool. but i got you. it’s funny cuz when ppl meet moms for the first time they automatically assume she’s the black parent and my dad must be the non-member. she’s gangsta, i love her!

            i’ll never forget the time i said somethin about “puffy” and my mom gave me an annoyed look and said “um it’s diddy now” lol like scuuuuuuse me, dang.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “in fact, i don’t think she was actually given one, i think she jacked it from taye diggs–he’s obviously not using it, so it works out. ”

      ***chuckling***

      • SouthernGirl

        lmao. i never really got his appeal. i like some of his movies and all but he never did it for me. and isn’t he married to a white woman?

        @ champ

        you mention white men married to white women but what about the other way around? what about david bowie and iman?

        • http://myspace.com/shatani shatani

          i just find him so yummy! that dark chocolate skin and gorgeous smile. oooh, thats one little man that could get all this 5’10 lovin!

          oooh, lets do a little dudes that could get it list! lol

          • SouthernGirl

            lol. only little dudes? TI. something about him….

            • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

              T.I. is definitely a little dude who could get it! Does anyone remember Wood Harris? He was skinny as ever but he could get it!…

              • 8th Wonder

                Wood Harris looks quite unfortunate in the…face region.

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                Omg… Wood Harris was FIONE!!

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                but i am still cracking up that u said he looks “unfortunate in the face” that is HILARIOUS…

              • Gem of the Ocean

                i’m with you 8th. like he got a cosmetic injection of down’s syndrome in the… face region

            • http://myspace.com/shatani shatani

              yeah, TI would definitely be on the list!

              • http://myspace.com/shatani shatani

                oooh, and ludacris! especially back before he cut off his hair! he could still get it now, of course, but i got a thing with hair…lol

        • SouthernGirl

          ok, i meant white men and black women first of all, and that was the wrong example. i think they or bowie is another example of possible black pass-ness.

          examples of opposite, meaning the black woman seems to be the ‘star’ in the relationship….janet and that renee dude. or was he latino? halle and gabe? and you know naomi campbell keeps a white man.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            “examples of opposite, meaning the black woman seems to be the ’star’ in the relationship….janet and that renee dude. or was he latino? halle and gabe? and you know naomi campbell keeps a white man.”

            is there a question in there somewhere, or are you just making a statement?

            • SouthernGirl

              eh…both. lol. but since reading some of the comments i don’t think these people count. strike this from the record.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                “eh…both. lol. but since reading some of the comments i don’t think these people count. strike this from the record.”

                do you need a hug or a waffle or something?

              • SouthernGirl

                “do you need a hug or a waffle or something?”

                both please. lol. seriously. this day of slacking was well deserved after busting my arse for 2 weeks on a report that was due yesterday. i checked out before i even signed in today.

  • http://loveandnappyness.blogspot.com love&nappiness

    lol. interesting topic.

    i’m wondering which white men we fervently believe should NOT have a pass or should have their passes revoked…

    • http://nextbigthing.blogsome.com Hostess

      That white guy we’ve all worked with (or will work with), who immediately feels y’all can bond over hip-hop music. He also thinks that if he peppers his sentences with some slang he got from rap videos, you’ll become his inst-lunch buddy. Let’s call him ‘Andy’. Yeah his ass!!

      • Gem of the Ocean

        i’ll also add to this–the dude that thinks becuz he’s supporting Obama, he’s “down” with the darkies

        • http://nextbigthing.blogsome.com Hostess

          That should have been INSTA-lunch buddy.

          Anyway…

          “down” with the darkies

          New Term: DWD

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            “down” with the darkies

            New Term: DWD

            ***adding to loose-leaf vsb glossary***

            • Gem of the Ocean

              make sure i get some credit, Champie

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                “make sure i get some credit, Champie”

                hmmm. still not sure how i feel about “champie”.

            • Sk8er H8er

              Yo it works gr8 as long as U use Brandi typed slang. Because marauding 1950 or older 2520 mob with the same chant in their mouth has a whole nother conotation.

      • V Renee

        Oh I have an Andy that thinks we are >< because he loves D4L…..wait a minute it’s not D4L, but D12. Either way, he always wants to talk about “black music” with me. He even had the audacity to ask me to make a list of my top 5 rappers.

        And when VH1 had that I want to be a rap star with the 2520′s trying to be rappers, he was in heaven.

      • miss t-lee

        There’s a kat like this at my job. He’s always tryna prove how “down” he is. He stays getting dirty looks and side-eyes from me and the other 7 Black peeps who work here.
        He’s good for free drinks at happy hour though.

        • http://myspace.com/shatani shatani

          i think i might be too non-threatening to the 2520s! (the black tina fey in the house!) i dont generally have any white dudes tryin to act all down to get in my good graces….i could think of a couple that were just a bit much on the whole adoption of black culture. but that wasnt about me, they were jacka.sses even when i was not around.

      • http://naturallyalise.blogspot.com/ eysqueen

        Andy who’s married to a sista darker than midnight, but is still a dork. Andy, who gets no luv from his own race….ahh that darn Andy….

        • SouthernGirl

          i would like to add alice to list. andy’s sister. i was one of two black women but she was my manager. and she was always trying to prove how DWD she was. for example, she had a black friend and she loved her two sons and she made some comment about their hair that i couldn’t remember now but i know i gave her the side eye. and trying to use slang and other random @ss comments that made it hard for me not to want to snatch her at least twice a week.

          • Fabulously Me

            OMG! I have a work buddy. Love.Her.To.Death. But, if she tells me one more time how she wants to adopt a black baby (cuz they’re cuter than white babies *crickets*) I’m going to f’ing scream. Why she thinks that’s cute. I dunno. Guess it proves how DWD she is. She gets the side eye every time that topic comes up.

            • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

              whenever she says that, tell her you’re going to adopt a cockapoo because they are so much cuter than reglar ol’ poodles.

              see what she does with that

            • http://nextbigthing.blogsome.com Hostess

              HA!! One of my friends straight asked me if I would teach her how to do Black hair if/when she adopts a Black child. She was drunk but I said, “Sure.” I’m doing my part for race relations. :-)

    • http://www.idatewhite.com Eathan

      I know you’re not talking about Ted Danson. I know he did Whoopie for a few years.. but damn, he also did the black face comedy skit too. I can’t give him a card for that.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        “I know you’re not talking about Ted Danson. I know he did Whoopie for a few years.. but damn, he also did the black face comedy skit too. I can’t give him a card for that.”

        ted danson’s in his own card category.

        • miss t-lee

          Because of Whoopi?

          • http://myspace.com/shatani shatani

            nah, because of Cheers…

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            because of his hair

            • http://liffy.blogspot.com Luvvie

              Yeah Ted Danson’s hair looks like it is losing a race to his scalp. He just needs to either go bald or invest in a plethora of hats.

              Hair club for men wouldn’t even help him. Dude needs hair rehab.

            • miss t-lee

              Awwww…okay.

  • http://loveandnappyness.blogspot.com love&nappiness

    oh – and i’d say Nigel Barker from ANTM…he’s not completely white but close enough…and yum.

    • Gem of the Ocean

      i love me some nigel, but i raise my eyebrow at him…

    • puff

      Amen to that. Him and his sexy British a$$ could get it.

      Ditto Gerard Butler. He’s completely white and inapplicable for this list, but he’s in a new movie with my other baby’s father, Idris Elba, and his sexxy a$$ Scottish accent gets me everytime. That and his ridiculous abs. And as for Idris, two words: Stringer Bell.

      In fact, I’d like to be in a different kind of movie with the two of them… right after my cold shower.

      • Gem of the Ocean

        King Leonidas?? oh hecks yeah!!

        • miss t-lee

          He’s the reason I had to see 300 on the big screen.

          • puff

            lol i saw that sh*t in IMAX

            • miss t-lee

              Wow. *drooling*

            • http://kamakula.wordpress.com kamakula

              me too puff. hmm, now we have 2 things in common ;)

              • puff

                we do?! what was the first??

    • http://nextbigthing.blogsome.com Hostess

      So wait, are y’all talking ‘Black pass’ or ‘he can get it’?

      • http://www.igville.blogspot.com V.E.G.

        Yeah. the ‘he can get it’ list would look very different. lol.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        “So wait, are y’all talking ‘Black pass’ or ‘he can get it’?”

        i think these are “i’m in heat right now” passes

        • V Renee

          LMAO. I literally d@mn near choked on my coffee.

        • http://liffy.blogspot.com Luvvie

          LMAO @ Champ.

    • JBoogie

      nope, Nigel would NOT be black pass worthy…but he’s cool cause he’s a snarky Brit.

    • overit

      OOH Nigel, good call!

  • http://kamakula.wordpress.com kamakula

    Tina Fey, non-threatening sex appeal. . .

    I’d give a middle school buddy of mine a pass. Father left his family when he was a kid, mother was in jail so he was living with grandma in DC. Now has a black baby momma while he’s getting his JD.

    I don’t even have a baby momma yet. . .

    • http://myspace.com/shatani shatani

      im mad you said “yet” like its in the works! lmao!

  • Sugar HeavenHooter

    I’m gonna issue Black Passes to

    Kim Kardashian

    Chris Martin from Coldplay…just cuz

    David Beckham

    • http://www.idatewhite.com Eathan

      Ok..I agree with Kim.. she got lots of ass. I also have to give CoCo one too. I know Ice T have her a card back in the day for having all that ass.

    • aja

      Big ups on the Beckham! ;)

    • Gem of the Ocean

      kim “all that @$$ and can’t shake it” kardashian?? nah, absolutely not pass worthy.

      • miss t-lee

        Hilarious.

    • http://insidethemindofadeviant.wordpress.com Deviant

      I dont understand your list

      • V Renee

        Me either Deviant. Me either.

        • http://insidethemindofadeviant.wordpress.com Deviant

          I rule that this list be stricken from record

          • http://www.kindredsmile.blogspot.com KindredSmile

            **co-sign** vehemently

            • miss t-lee

              I concur.

          • http://liffy.blogspot.com Luvvie

            I soooo agree. This list is irrelevant, insensible, and indignant (lol i like that word for some odd reason)

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          lol…i was hoping i wasn’t the only one. me thinks the hooter needs to expound, or just a few dozen more people

    • http://liffy.blogspot.com Luvvie

      BOOOOOOOOOO on Kim kardashian. That heffa dont get no black card b/c her ass needs its own zipcode. She’s wack.

      Wackness comes into consideration when we’re laminating these black cards. Yeah I’m, hating. So what? :-p

    • http://adopefiend.com Dope Fiend

      you’re making a funny right?

      David Beckham…SERIOUSLY?

      |||VOID||||

      • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

        Concur!

    • JBoogie

      I’on know about giving Chris Martin that pass…I mean, I *hearts* him and errythang, but he’s married to Gwen Paltrow…that holds me back.