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The Assault At Spring Valley High Would Not Have Happened If The Girl Was White

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I do not know what happened in that classroom at Spring Valley High School before Deputy Ben Fields violently assaulted a teen girl who was, apparently, “resisting arrest.” I’m quite sure, however, that information will find its way into the public sphere very soon. We will also know more about Deputy Fields — his work history, his relationship with the students, his personal life — and we will definitely know more about the girl who was the victim of assault. Perhaps her name won’t be made public, but her academic record and behavioral history will likely be. There will also be conversations about the need to have actual police officers in schools, and whether their presence helps control or helps contribute to an adverse environment.

All of this context will congeal to cloud and color how this case will be deconstructed, assessed, and, ultimately, decided. And this will be the wrongest thing to do, because none of that matters here. At least not in a macro sense. The only thing that matters when deciding how to think about and discuss this story is race. Specifically, the race of the officer (White) and the race of the student who was assaulted (Black). This is where the conversation about this — any conversation about this — needs to start. And then, once you acknowledge that the most meaningful conversation to have about this story needs to start with race, you’ll be more prepared for the next conversation, which is a bit more complex.

I have no doubt that if the student who was assaulted happened to be a Black boy instead of a Black girl, the assault still would have occurred. I also don’t have much doubt that if the student who was assaulted happened to be a White boy, the assault still might have occurred. Maybe it wouldn’t have. But I’m not confident in saying that. I can still see it happening.

I can not, however, see that happening if the student who was assaulted happened to be a White girl.

This isn’t to say that White girls don’t experience violence at the hands of men. I’m not even suggesting that White girls don’t also experience police brutality. But White women and girls are generally treated with a kindness and care that often escapes Black women and girls. They’re (generally) considered more delicate, more sensitive, more fragile, and more feminine, and this often gives them a certain level of, for lack of a better term, protection not given to Black women and girls. (And, to be frank, this is not something that can be solely blamed on White people. This lack of protection for Black women and girls is just as pervasive within the Black community.)

A White girl in that same situation would not have been slammed on the back of her head and ripped from her chair and dragged from the classroom, like a stuffed dog won at an amusement park. Basically, that White girl would not have been treated like a man.

Because you might hurt that girl. You might scare her. You might scar her face. You might make her cry. That Black girl — a Black girl who was more than likely hurt and scared and scarred and maybe even cried — did not receive that type of consideration.

Because Black girls don’t.

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for GQ.com And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at damon@verysmartbrothas.com. Or don't. Whatever.

  • I have witnessed some horrific physical violence, racial and not so racial…but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything quite like this that registers so much emotion in me that I want something devastating to happen to this guy. Can’t wait to hear the whole story. ..if we do get to hear it that is.

    • Damon Young

      yeah, every time I think i’m desensitized, something like this happens to remind me I’m not there yet.

      • Sharron Hunter-Rainey

        Don’t ignore the lack of intervention on the part of the man wearing the white shirt. He appears to be an adult and I presume he is the teacher who called for the resource officer in the first place. He should not have allowed a child to be assaulted in this manner in his presence.

        • Some of the students didnt flinch or look.

          • I noticed that too…which makes me think that this is typical behavior from the deputy…which too me, is a much bigger story.

            • Read somewhere he has a history of doing things like this.

            • KB

              There have been complaints against him in the past for excessive force against students and referring to groups of black children as gangs. Those poor kids looked scared. Oh and it’s worth mentioning that one of the students who tried to stand up/speak out for the girl was herself arrested.

            • menajeanmaehightower

              I have to agree here. This has happened way too many times before. The kids nor teacher even flinched. In fact, it was expected.

          • I heard on the (Houston) news this morning that in his spare time he is a strength trainer or body builder and has a history of this type of behavior on the job.

            • Nick Peters

              Power lifter

          • Question

            Nah they looked and one student who said “this is wrong” was arrested. Yep. Arrested.

            • Just saw a 10 second video from another angle… effin brutal.

              • Question

                Disgusting. A student. For not giving up her cell phone.

          • Asiyah

            That got to me too.

        • JonStevens

          Arresting someone is not “assault”. Why can’t you blacks ever use words in the proper way?

          • Aedi

            I’m curious. What words do you think she could have used that would justify throwing a girl across the room? What WORD – not actions, not movements but WORDS – would make this perfectly acceptable?

          • Echo

            Just the mere fact that you said “you blacks”…I am so hoping you are just trolling for people’s skin to get under. I couldn’t help but notice this is the ONLY blog you have responded to on you profile. Is it safe to assume that is why you chose anonymity (no profile pic and common name)?

      • Exactly.

  • Royale W. Cheese

    I disagree on one point. While the race of the girl is important, and will dictate the narrative (blame the victim) I do not agree that the race of the officer is important. The devaluation of black civilians is systemic in the police force. For every klansman there is an uncle Ruckus.

    • Damon Young

      the race of the girl is more important, i agree, but i do believe the race of the officer matters too

    • Question

      I don’t see what “Uncle Ruckus'” have to do with this situation.

      • Royale W. Cheese

        Uncle Ruckus is not represented in this specific incident, but is relevant in incidences when black people are brutalized by black (and brown) police officers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Ruckus

        There are police of color who devalue black people. Side note: Police apologists attempt to use those cases to disprove racism in policing, which is a bogus argument since white supremacy can be promoted by anyone (although it only benefits white people directly).

        • Question

          I understand who and what Uncle Ruckus represents. I don’t understand why Black apologists were invited into this discussion when thus far, none have appeared out of the mist.

          • Royale W. Cheese

            I mentioned Uncle Ruckus to explain why I don’t think that the *cop’s race* needs to be emphasized…a single point of respectful disagreement that I raised in response to the article. Brutality against blacks is a systemic problem within police departments.

            • Cleojonz

              I agree with you. I don’t think all these cases with police brutality are inherently racist, even the ones involving a white officer and victim of color. It has almost if not more to do with police training. They are trained as to what threats to perceive and across the board black bodies, even an unarmed 14 year old girl in a bikini, are more threatening than anyone else. Until we can change cop mentality this will continue to happen.

              • Royale W. Cheese

                I do think that the term “racism” still applies, because the brutality is provoked and amplified by the victim’s race and her perceived character (insolent non-human black brute that needs extra aggression). This particular type of racism is white supremacy, or black inferiority. It can be (is) practiced by people of different races, but ultimately white people benefit the most.

    • #facts Like Ice Cube said, Black police showing out for the White cop!

    • Mary Burrell

      Remember Freddie Gray and the black cops in Baltimore.

    • Anonymous

      I agree, black officers are just as, if not more violent with black students, and girl in particular. There was an article sometime last year about a black girl in Baltimore, I believe, who was beaten badly by a school officer and the officer was a black woman. Violence against black bodies is systemic within the police force and white and non-white officers both play a part. Black officers sometimes are more aggressive w/ black people because they feel the need to prove to their fellow officers that they are “part of the team.”

      There’s also how white supremacy teaches black people from birth to hate ourselves, so black officers have the same animosity towards black people that whites do.

      • fxd8424

        “Black officers sometimes are more aggressive w/ black people because they feel the need to prove to their fellow officers that they are “part of the team.”

        And black officers have been doing this for as long as I can remember. What they don’t get is that they will never be “part of the team” as more than a few have been shot and killed by their “team” while working under cover.

    • Wild Cougar

      These officers should not be in the school to begin with. It’s rural and suburban white boys that are going on mass murder sprees over and over, becoming domestic terrorists, radicalizing each other in packs, and yet, these cops don’t seem to be monitoring these people. Send the school cops to make the white boys obey orders and then maybe the nation will be more safe.

      • Neighbor

        you are being ridiculous. There is more violence in the black community, and the worst schools with out of control, defiant students are majority black. What your attitude of denial will lead to is less control for teachers who have already been warned not to give so many ‘racist’ suspensions, and more teacher turnover which hurts kids.

        • Wild Cougar

          Black kids act like kids. They are at times disrespectful and defiant. That is normal teenager behavior. What is not normal teenager behavior is mass murder and that is what white teenagers do. They are the ones who should be monitored because they are a national security threat.

          • Neighbor

            Oooookay, no reasonable reality-based discussion gonna happen here I see. Your children will suffer for your denial, unfortunately. Teach them respect!

            • Wild Cougar

              Teach your children not to act like savages and go on mass murder sprees. Its become an epidemic and the white community needs to do something about its violent young men. The legacy of brutality and murder has settled into your dna from the time your people began killing and thieving their way across the globe. It must be stopped and you can do your part by teaching your children how to act like human beings.

              • Rob Wilkes

                “Wild Cougar”, you are a racist, and shame on you for using this horrendous incident to promote your racist agenda.

                • Wild Cougar

                  Don’t care what you think. I speak facts.

              • Neighbor

                White people are not even over-represented in mass shootings, and 53% of all homicides in USA are by black males, who are 7.5% of the population. Time for you to face reality.

              • sh8896a

                Seriously let’s stop entertaining these trolls. Frankly I don’t give a sh*t about them. They are like roaches. Just spray some raid and keep it moving. They are not worthy of your attention.

            • Asiyah

              how can anybody have a reasonable, reality-based discussion with a person like you? seriously.

          • Rob Wilkes

            “Wild Cougar”, you are a racist.

            • Wild Cougar

              Face facts and stop whining.

            • Asiyah

              you keep repeating that. ok we get the point. come up with something new.

      • Rob Wilkes

        “Wild Cougar”, you are a racist.

        • Wild Cougar

          zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    • Asiyah

      That’s a great point, Royale.

    • markus64s

      The race of the girl matches the race of the cop’s girlfriend.

      Obviously this school resource cop went too far. Tomorrow, he will be gone. But disruptive and defiant students will still be in school and still pushing the limit against authority – both their teachers and the cops brought in to control them. How sad for these young adults.

      The cop will move on and get another job, but the student is the one in real trouble. If she is so poorly socialized that she thinks its ok to defy her teachers and the police, she simply will not thrive in the real world where everybody has a boss and there are lots of rules.

  • PDL – Cape Girl

    Where was this cop with the mac & cheese guy?

    • Damon Young

      the mac and cheese guy is probably his son

      • PDL – Cape Girl

        Mm hmm

  • Charles Johnson

    i know something is wrong with me when i think to myself “thank god she ain’t dead.”

    • Sharron Hunter-Rainey

      Given what has happened lately, I understand your sentiment.

    • PhlyyPhree

      No. Nothing is wrong with you for thinking that because that very well could have been the outcome of that mans actions.

      Something is wrong with a school district that has a need for an officer, who was trained thusly. Something is wrong with a justice system and an educational system and several other systems not nothing is wrong with you.

  • There’s nothing that ANYBODY can say to justify this bs. I’m over the blatant disregard for black folks. I would OWN that mfer. They need an attorney.

    • JonStevens

      You mean apart from the fact she was resisting arrest? Cop was just doing his job. Stop being so entitled.

      • Sigma_Since 93

        entitled???? I know kids that would clearly use the Do you know who my daddy is or I’ll sue line. At a minimum, I’m entitled expect the same treatment from the officer’s of the law. If that’s entitlement then yes….yes I am.

        • Clearly, this clown is a troll or Stevie Wonder because she was sitting still in a chair. You have to be mindful of folks with no pics. No pic means that he isn’t talking to me. *shrugs*

          • Echo

            Same thing I said a little further down thread.

          • PhlyyPhree

            Yup. I stopped replying to them directly.

  • jimmyjam2132

    I’ve worked in “hood schools,” and I’ve worked in schools where the most work a school-based officer was got was the walk to and from his car during his lunch break to pick up some fast food. In both schools, never have I seen such an act of violence extended toward a student who was passive in a given situation. There are no words uttered or not uttered to evoke such a response from a police officer. Thank God someone filmed the situation, or else it may merely chucked up as “just another school day” at Spring Valley High…

  • I’ve started a sentence and deleted it, only to start another and delete that one. I don’t know what to say. No, that’s a lie. I have a lot to say; I just don’t know where to begin.

    I agree, though, that were this a White girl, this very likely wouldn’t have happened. This is where you see patriarchy and white supremacy intersect, and the protection of fragile Miss Ann is of utmost priority.

    Black girls and Black women, though? We’re super human, of course. Therefore, our black skin means we’re impervious to violence.

    • JonStevens

      Bullshit. I’ve seen white people who resisted arrest or ignored cop’s orders get dragged around like this. Big deal. Blacks really love to make drama out of nothing.

      • What if this was your daughter?

      • Sigma_Since 93

        Like the mac and cheese guy right??

        • JonStevens

          The guy who wasn’t resisting arrest and surrendered to police? What does he have to do with anything?

          • Sigma_Since 93

            His behavior is the point. If he had more melanin in his skin, a) the end result would have been significantly different b) you would be saying if he had not spoken to the authorities with such disdain.

          • Wild Cougar

            Do you believe there is such a thing as an unlawful arrest or do cops have the right to arrest anyone at any time for any reason?

            • JonStevens

              What’s the relevance?

          • Asiyah

            He was verbally abusive and blatantly disrespectful. Yet he was left unscathed.

      • Vanity in Peril

        I know feeding trolls is so not cool but please jump head first up your own ass and die. Thaaaanks!

  • Echo

    This is one of those I need to gather my thoughts and come back later posts.

  • 2011k

    I can’t lie, I couldn’t even watch the video. my cursor legit hovered over the play button for some minutes before I just gave up and kept scrolling. Is it selfish to say that I can’t handle it right now?

    I can only imagine what she’s going through but thank God she’s still alive. Prayers to her and her family.

    • I also can’t…I tried to watch it….but my heart won’t let me. My reservoir of tears has been dry for years now, and I’m afraid if I watch this I might explode….literally shatter into a million pieces for this girl and her family and all black girls and all black people….it hurts so much…and it didn’t even happen to me, so I can’t even imagine how this girl feels.

    • Echo

      I didn’t even try. We all know how it ends. He still has a job. She is probably out of school and now everything that she a MINOR has done in her short life will be made to seem as though “she deserved” what happened.

  • Maybe it’s just me. But I’m not sure how the teacher was unable to watch his student get assaulted without responding. This is so ugly. I’m not a teacher but I think I may have been outraged with the abuser (cop)

    • Tip Red

      I heard He was an administrator so he was probably used toband or endorsed the behavior

    • JonStevens

      Why? The cop did nothing wrong. You should be outraged with the person who was resisting arrest. What’s he supposed to do, ask her nicely and just wait around while she ignores him? Fuck that. Resist arrest, and expect to taste the floor.

      I despise people who resist arrest, especially when they have the nerve to call it assault. The cop is just doing his job trying to arrest people. That is not “assault”, as any mature adult understands, and that’s why the teacher didn’t respond.

      • Wild Cougar

        This kind of circular reasoning is what white supremacy trades in. Police officers have absolute authority over everyone and anything they do is right, by definition. They are gods. So if you don’t obey everything they say, even unlawful orders (they are the law and have no duty to follow the law), then it’s perfectly fine for them to assault or kill you because white America wants absolute obedience to anyone who puts a uniform on and is willing to see people brutalized and murdered to get their fascist state. White America is just like N azi Germany. The mentality is exactly the same

        • Rob Wilkes

          I’m as white as sour cream, and this made me incredibly angry. I have seen many other white people on the kid’s side in this thread.

          Are there white supremacists? Absolutely.

          Is this cop one of them? Possibly. Or possibly he is just that dictatorial and race wasn’t a factor.

          Are ALL white people “white supremacists”? No. I certainly am not.

          Stop arguing against racism by being a racist. That makes you as bad as the white supremacists.

          • Wild Cougar

            I don’t care about your weak definitions of racism or your entitled fragile little white feelings. I am speaking facts. If you can’t deal with facts about your culture, go talk to a therapist. Your injured white feelings can be coddled there because they won’t be here. I’m not afraid of being called racist. I’m afraid of being assaulted and killed by racists. Your objection about being lumped with others based on race don’t matter. Not in the slightest.

          • mzpw2015

            Quick question though – (I’m being nice, too) why direct this comment towards someone using a logical argument compared to address the Jon dude who is trying to deny, deny, deny the truth by refusing to address the reality that race has? Isn’t that, in a sense, somewhat of a racist, privileged standpoint to take? (& no, no one’s calling you a racist)

        • Imhotep

          Hotep, my sister, you are on point. 1200 American killed by police last year(according to the FBI/Washington Post) over 600 white and white folks are scared to say anything, esp the fake white clergy. Nothing from pimp Olsteen, Robertson, etc. Pitiful. Sankofa

        • JonStevens

          Deal with it in court. Don’t fight it out in the street because you’ll only get hurt. There’s no evidence that there was any unlawful order here though, so there was no excuse not to comply.

          • Wild Cougar

            I don’t know who you think you’re talking to but you don’t give me or Black people directions on what to do. How about shutting the fcuk up because you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.

            • JonStevens

              I’m talking to a negro, so yes, I do get to give you directions.

              • Wild Cougar

                Somebody take out the white trash, thanks. I just wanted my hands so I’m not touching it.

      • LogicalLeopard

        Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww………………….
        This is a KID. If you did that to your OWN kid, it’d be considered child abuse. So how can a cop do it? I mean, seriously…..
        Or, if you want to be more official, exactly which sanctioned police technique did the officer use to obtain the compliance of the suspect? Hint: Dumping her on the floor, dragging her, and then THROWING her like a sack of potatoes are not sanctioned techniques.

        • Asiyah

          To him this would NEVER be his kid because his kid “has respect for authority.” *eyeroll*

          • LogicalLeopard

            *LOL* Right! *more deflection* And besides, why is she on her phone in the middle of class?

            • Asiyah

              “My child would NEVER do that! My child knows MANNERS!” LOL

              • LogicalLeopard

                “And besides, I taught my child at a very early age that whenever police officers enter a room, they were to immediately lie on the ground and thread their fingers together behind their heads. I mean, it’s all about respect for law enforcement…..”

        • JonStevens

          It wasn’t a kid, and no it wouldn’t be considered child abuse, but that’s beside the point since cops have rights that regular parents don’t.

          Throwing a suspect to the floor to floor to restrain and cuff them IS a sanctioned technique, dumbass. Dragging them to a location where they can be safely cuffed is also part of it.

          Comparing her to a sack of potatoes is nothing but emotional garbage in order to manipulate people and portray her as some kind of victim.

          • ChiefbutnotA_Keef

            “It wasn’t a kid”

            WHAT???

      • Asiyah

        That is straight up assault because the reaction does not match her action. IF she was resisting arrest it was done so in a nonthreatening matter. Did she physically attack him? Did she even threat him? Was she verbally assaulting him? NO.

        I hope you’re not a police officer because people like you are scary. If you find this officer’s reaction justified you need to seek help for your anger issues. You’re clearly a danger to society.

        • JonStevens

          Who told you it had to match?

          • Asiyah

            Common sense should tell you that unless his life was in imminent danger there was no need for a physical assault. She was nonthreatening. Supposedly you’re taught at the police academy that you should only use force when your life is threatened, so…

            That’s who told me it had to match.

            • JonStevens

              It wasn’t physical assault, it was an arrest. And you’re confusing “force” – which is always necessary when a suspect is resisting arrest – with “deadly force”, which is a totally different thing altogether.

      • LMNOP

        Shoo fly, don’t bother me…

      • spineshank155

        NO excuse for throwing the child around like that. Yes the child was resisting arrest but you don’t go throwing child across the room endangering them in the process. This was plain and simple child abuse from a bad cop.

        • JonStevens

          That wasn’t a “child”. And throwing someone to the ground is normal when they’re resisting arrest. In other words, the cop had every excuse. It was to PREVENT the suspect being endangered that the cop dragged it to safety away from the table and chairs.

      • ds9sisko

        Fool, even if she’s being mouthy, even if she’s not moving, SHE’S SITTING IN A CHAIR. That’s not a risk to anyone. There are ways to remove people form situations without that kind of unwarranted violence. And yet yoU DESPISE people who “resist arrest”? She wasn’t UNDER arrest when hat cop dragged you, you idiot. Good God, save this nation from fools like you.

        • JonStevens

          She’s wasting time when there might be a more serious crime happening elsewhere. The police don’t have to spend their time fucking about with idiots. Just drag them and cuff them.

          • ds9sisko

            “Wasting time” is no excuse for that behavior. “Dragging and cuffing” students for infractions like that is not only ridiculous but morally indefensible. But your own lack of a moral compass, as well your approval of this kind of behavior on the part of the police is EXACTLY how people like you are not only a danger to CIVILIZED society, but contributing to the decline of this civilization by tacitly approving of fascistic tactics. She did nothing wrong to merit this behavior by the cop and a real American would be appalled by these kind of thug tactics.

            • JonStevens

              So how else should police deal with suspects who refuse to comply? Ask them nicely?

              • ds9sisko

                Well, besides your slash & burn tactics (which could potentially wind up costing the school district, police department and/pr city and taxpayers a ton of money if a lawsuit were to go further — bet you never took that into consideration), since the student was just sitting there and ” being mouthy” (which has been ruled Constitutional to talk back to an officer), class could have been suspended or moved and the cop could have called backup and she could have been removed with much less force than was employed in this case. Instead the cop is now on camera with multiple witnesses, a student & her family may have serious grounds to sue, and bad blood has been increased between the police and community, as well as students who have been badly affected by this event, from a cop who has already been banned form the school because of this incident and who was name in a lawsuit for excessive force previously and who graduates and students say has a history of violent behavior toward students. but you think THIS was worth ALL that damage and potential liability. Morally bankrupt AND fiscally irresponsible. SMH

                • JonStevens

                  Nope, too much time. Someone elsewhere could be being murdered while this entitled little bitch was wasting the officer’s valuable time. They’re cops, not social workers. They don’t have to fuck around and coddle you if it’s not necessary.

                  I don’t know which video you watched, but there are absolutely no grounds to sue, and there’s no reason for bad blood, unless you already have a chip on your shoulder against the police and need an excuse to hate them.

                  • ds9sisko

                    “Nope, too much time. Someone elsewhere could be being murdered while this entitled little bitch was wasting the officer’s valuable time. They’re cops, not social workers. They don’t have to fuck around and coddle you if it’s not necessary.”

                    In other words, you’re making an argument that the school and administrators wasted the time and resources of the police on an allegedly disruptive student when they could be out preventing murders or catching murderers..

                    “I don’t know which video you watched but there are absolutely no grounds to sue,…”

                    Let’s see what the police department, FBI and Department of Justice have to say about that, since they are all investigating the incident. Depending on what one or all three have to say — and whichever attorneys are undoubtedly advising the family now or soon — we shall see.

                    “…and there’s no reason for bad blood, unless you already have a chip on your shoulder against the police and need an excuse to hate them.”

                    Ah, there it is: the old, classic “chip on your shoulder” trope, usually deployed against Black people when the person using that tired cliche has run out of an argument/excuses. LOL

              • mzpw2015

                Be realistic…..there is a clear difference between gaining control of a situation vs taking control of a situation. The child was sitting in a seat, no acting as a physical threat towards anyone, unarmed. Physical force of that nature cannot be justified; cops are taught other various techniques that can be used to gain control of someone. Have you ever read the words of the pledge policemen & women state upon being sworn in? Do so- maybe that will help you understand that their role as a cop is always to cause as little damage and/or harm to citizens as possible…

                • JonStevens

                  It wasn’t a “child”, and it was wasting precious police time. Just grab her and cuff her. No damage was done here.

      • You are a wanker.

      • Imhotep

        You must didn’t look at the video. She didn’t move and did not say a word. So its similar to passive resistance of the civil rights movement. But you must have watched a different video. Hotep

        • JonStevens

          If Rosa Parks got arrested for not moving when she was told to, so can this bitch.

          • john hark

            Most ignorant comment since the internet was created. Congrats.

      • howardroar

        when did the cop say she was under arrest?

      • john hark

        The real issue is why a student is under arrest for simply being non-compliant in the classroom. And if anyone knows the research about discipline and punishment in schools, they know that race plays a role. A white student would’ve been given a lot more leeway.

        • JonStevens

          I’ve seen whites get worse. Leave the race card out of this.

    • Avery

      I thought the same thing. I’m not a teacher, nor do I have children, but I’m not sure my conscience would let me just stand there and watch a defenseless child be assaulted right in front of me,

      • LogicalLeopard

        Yeah, I would have had to say something as well.
        Edit: But, I’m not blaming the teacher, because some people can be so shocked they don’t speak. I can’t say I wouldn’t’ be either.

        • Question

          This. Sometimes you don’t even realize what’s happening when its happening.

          I would like to think I would’ve intervened, but its perfectly reasonable to believe that someone was shocked into immobility. Or he himself scared.

          • LogicalLeopard

            It happens.

        • Avery

          Yeah, I think it’s unfair to blame the teacher for the situation. However, from what I’ve read, this particular officer has a certain reputation for this type of behavior. I’d be hard pressed to believe that he was so shocked he couldn’t speak or act in her defense. Maybe fearful he’d be subjected to the same treatment, but not “shocked into immobility” as LogicalLeopard stated.

          • LogicalLeopard

            Well, just because the officer has a reputation for that sort of behavior doesn’t mean that he’s done it in the teacher’s presence, though. I mean…..the video is plenty shocking. If I heard that a school officer had a reputation for being heavy handed, I certainly wouldn’t expect to see him flip over a GIRL in her desk and throw her like a lawn dart across the classroom. But yeah, fearfulness of similar treatment could apply in conjunction with that or in place of that.
            You know the part of the video that disturbs me the most? The kid in the red hoodie with his head down. I can’t say what that kid is thinking, but you know, it does look like its business as usual at the school. So you might have something about that reputation thing. I mean, not a single KID said anything. And usually kids will be more willing than adults to say things. It’s really said.

            • Avery

              Yes. It was disheartening to see that the other students not reacting as if that is normal behavior at that school. Everything about the video is sad.

              • LogicalLeopard

                Exactly….

        • tmb

          that’s actually the most common human response to an emergency situation—the brain freezes (cognitive dissonance) because it actually takes time for the brain to process IS THAT REALLY HAPPENING?! It’s one of the reasons eyewitness accounts without other evidence is considered unreliable.

          • LMNOP

            Also a big factor in the development of PTSD.

          • LogicalLeopard

            Yes, exactly! So yeah, I was going to go along with that about the teacher, but I had to pull my punch and remember that being in a situation is a lot different than looking at a situation after the fact.

          • john hark

            Some of your description is accurate, but the brain freezing isn’t cognitive dissonance (that’s a conflict between one’s thinking and one’s actions, or two actions in some cases). I think you’re referring to “emotional hijacking” where the amygdala takes over the brain and leads to the “fight or flight” response in which one doesn’t actively process what is happening.

        • Imhotep

          Hey bro long time. That teacher was shocked and scared..

          • LogicalLeopard

            Hey, what’s going on? Yeah, he did. It’s sad…the whole class room looks like their drunk father came home and started beating on mom.

            • Imhotep

              That never happened in my school and I went to school in the Chicago area with Thugs all around. He is lucky he is in SC, because someone in class in my area would have shot him for doing that to a girl. She did not move or say anything to him on the video I saw.

              • LogicalLeopard

                Yeah, she did NOTHING. Which makes defense of what the cop did just astounding. But it shouldn’t be, because we all know people are going to defend bad behavior against black bodies. Like you said, cops in your old school would never have done something like that to people with far greater issues.

            • Monique Baha

              I was thinking that exactly! It’s as if everything in the atmosphere was holding them in their seats. They could feel the situation yelling,” YOU WANT TO BE NEXT?!”

              • LogicalLeopard

                Exactly! That’s almost more chilling than what actually happened to the girl.

      • The teacher is the one who apparently called robo cop over chewing gum and her refusing to leave the class. Not sure how true that allegation is. Whatever. Point is, to drag her like that? #oshunbearing

        • Avery

          Yeah, whatever she did or did not do I’m sure doesn’t warrant for her to be flipped and dragged like that. I hope he didn’t call said robo cop expecting him to do her like that.

      • Michelle

        There’s a post on Tumblr, where a series of tweets from high school students were compiled. Those students are from that high school. One student was in the classroom, when this assault had taken place. He said that the teacher thought she should’ve complied with the officer.

    • tmb

      I’d be afraid of getting tazed or shot by the officer, TBH. But I couldn’t just stand there, either.

      • john hark

        True, but keep in mind it was kids watching this and one adult. Who called the officer.

    • LMNOP

      A teacher has an ethical duty to keep their students safe and to TEACH all of the students in that class that when they see someone being mistreated they can and should intervene.

      • exactly!!!

      • singingcowboy674

        True. She intervened by asking the young woman to leave. She then called Administrator for assistance when the woman refused to leave. When the Administrator was refused the Administrator, out of options as she was now for all intents and purposes TRESPASSING by continuing to be there, finally called Officer Hulk. When she began to kick and flail as he tried to remover her from the desk, that is considered resisting arrest. Did the officer skip a step of escalation? Maybe. Then again, maybe one of those hits landed and at that point his emotions got the better of him. Did he do wrong? I think. Least by reacting to her to that degree. Was she beaten or helpless like some articles say? No. She was defiant. And then abusive once touched. She def bought and paid for her rug burn. She is also still being charged.

    • MamaChitChatChitterling

      Because this was some ‘Black man gonna teach you Lil black b—” sh-t, that’s why. Black misogyny and a piss poor teacher with no classroom mgt skills.

    • i was wondering the same thing and supposedly thats the principal

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