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Snoop Dogg Is Still Gangbanging So Hopefully We Won’t Have To Go Through That. I Guess.

Snoop Dogg/Snoop Doggy Dogg/Snoop Lion fan here. Snoop Dogg recently released an album. It is called Neva Left.

There’s no reason that Snoop should release an album in 2017 where the opening lines of the album are “I gangbang to the fullest, a lot of niggas talk about it, but they really don’t do it, so I’m doing it for y’all…” (on the album’s title track “Neva Left”). The ENTIRE first song is about being a Crip and gangbanging. One could argue that there’s no reason for Snoop to release an album in 2017 period, however, as a Snoop fan and one who appreciates his existence for many different reasons but most of all for the enthusiastic entertainment he’s provided me over the decades, I’ll lay that argument down by (down by) the riverside. Our lives are better because Snoop is in them.

Back to gangbanging Snoop. Obviously Snoop lived that or some version of that life 20-plus years ago – remember this is the same Snoop, then Snoop Doggy Dogg, on trial for the murder of Philip Woldemariam in 1993 on the heels of his frequently violent magnum opus Doggystyle –  but now I see this lanky nigga on TV with Martha Stewart with all the smiles and telling the game he is only supposed to sell, living his best shenanigan-filled life. Which is great for him. I honestly couldn’t be happier for Snoop’s life; he took his life and made it a career and then flipped it and took white people’s money just to do it. Snoop is the uncle we all wish we had (assuming you don’t have an uncle like him already).

Can we take a quick sidebar that will probably be lengthy? I think we shall. If you were to ask my what my favorite music from the early to mid 90s was, without hesitation it would all come from the West Coast. I’m a DJ Quik mega-fan, an ardent Death Row supporter, and believe that early Ice Cube is potentially the greatest rapper who ever lived until he died right after releasing The Predator and was reborn as the artist who made a very-forced Lethal Injection. I owned all of those albums and marveled at the production and sound. Being a southerner, the West Coast sound fit my aesthetic more with its car-ready and melody-driven sound. The hip-hop lover in me liked New York rap because with it I wouldn’t have my music, but I didn’t love it the same way.

Well, considering the heavy amount of West Coast music I listened to, I feel like I owe a very significant thank you to my parents for raising me right. It’s amazing that I wasn’t a 13-year-old raging misogynist with zero regard for women. So much of that early LA West Coast hip-hop was absolutely the most indefensible music, ESPECIALLY in regards to its treatment of women. I mean good gotdamn. There was so much bitches, hoes, rape of bitches and hoes, murder of bitches and hoes alongside the murder and sometimes sodomy of one’s enemies from the other side, etc. I remember thinking about throwing a West Coast-themed 90s party until I realized that it would be five hours of calling women “bitches”. I know we all love Snoop’s “Ain’t No Fun”, but Nate Dogg softens the misogyny blow with his sangin’ ass vocals to open the song as the the opening RAP bars are: “Well if Kurupt gave a fuck about a bitch, I’d always be broke…” And those were my heroes back then.

I’m obviously not the hip-hop ruined the Black community guy so I’d never go down that road. I do, however, look back at some of those niggas defenses of their discussions of women in music and it’s all stupid and idiotic. They all should be ashamed of their damn selves for attempting to justify those songs. I listened to them and loved them, but there’s nothing to defend. Most of their defenses typically defaulted to “well I’m married and my wife is my manager, so we’re not talking about all women, we’re talking about bitches.” They made it REAL hard to distinguish between the two in their music because it seemed like any woman could be a bitch REAL easily. Even if I didn’t know the term or concept at the time, West Coast hip-hop was a very early education in cognitive dissonance for me as I knew and still know all of the words to DJ Quik’s “Sweet Black Pussy”, potentially the genre’s most asinine backhanded nod to Black women, but could never and would never view women in such a derogatory light.

Back to 45-year-old Snoop. I’m glad rappers are making that prime-time coin in the form of television shows and the like, but I think this is the downside to our current fascination with learning so much about our favorite rappers. It’s hard to see you in such an affable manner and then listen to you talk about how hard-body you are, especially when you just sat down at a nail salon with your daughter because her happiness trumps all. It really forces them to sell that “hood reporter” point of view, except they still want to first person it. It’s also hard to buy the same 20-year-old content from people we see who clearly haven’t lived that life in a LOOOOOONG TIME. And that is made worse by the fact that this Snoop album, in particular, is legitimately tuuuuuuuurble in  parts.

Like for real for real tuuuuuuuuuuurble.

The Game did the same thing on Documentary 2, which might debate-ably be the most idiotically Blooded album of all time, which is ridiculous coming from him at this point in life but AT LEAST he’s a legit great rapper and the music was fantastic. So we got a great product from a dude whose on-wax life we don’t buy.  Snoop on the other hand isn’t a great or even above-average rapper at this point in life and the music isn’t that musical product isn’t that good either so it stands out even more and seems EVEN more ridiculous.

It’s also funny to hear him say that he’s just a seed that was planted by Ruthless. I mean, it’s true, but it’s just funny hearing HIM say that because of that awfully sordid history, one tremendously downplayed in Straight Outta Compton, the movie.

The album cover is fire though.

Panama Jackson

Panama Jackson is pretty fly (and gorgeous) for a light guy. He used to ship his frito to Tito in the District, but shipping prices increased so he moved there to save money. He refuses to eat cocaine chicken. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. Most importantly, he believes the children are our future. You can hit him on his hitter at panamadjackson@gmail.com.

  • Kwazi Style

    Ashamed to say… I know all the words to “Sweet Black Puss” too… hey don’t judge me I’m a Californian… (kanye shrug)

    • Freebird

      Hey sis. You new around here? You are killing in that avi.

      • MsSula

        Shoot yo’ shot 2017…. Part Deux! Loll.

      • Kwazi Style

        Not new… just quiet (^_^)

        • Freebird

          Im not new either. I would have noticed if you posted before.

          Quiet women often have a lot to say and I like to listen. Glad you came out. You brightened my rainy Friday just by showing up.

    • welcome to vsb sis

  • It’s hard to find new topics to rap about once you become a man or woman of a certain age. You’re removed from the struggles that defined your early career and that gave your music verge and venom. Like Snoop, you’re comfortable, made some money, and are now firmly affixed to pop culture. In the worst case scenario you simply become a dude bragging about how comfortable you are (Jay-Z, “Magna Carter Holy Grail”).

    Very few older rappers escape this. Nas is the standout, mining his focus on artistry that started after his mom’s death (“Stillmatic” and especially with “God’s Son”). He continues to make great music because he’s open about his struggles in mind life; “Life is Good” is a solid album exploring the themes of divorce and how he can’t seem to get his love life right. It’s mature hip hop far removed from Snoop’s fake posturing and Jigga’s ennui concerning the throne.

    • MsSula

      I was saying something similar to the husband. Nas’ music seems to evolve with him. And I think that’s how you understand a musician artistry. I am a big Nas fan.

      • Hadassah

        And it helps that he hansome. My vanity knows no bounds. These urchins popping up now I can’t even.

        • Isn’t he dating Nicki Manji now?

          • Michelle

            If you ask me, I think this is a pure publicity stunt.

            • porqpai

              It does feel very Drake and JLo doesn’t it?

              • Quirlygirly

                It sure does..Plus she was with Meek. Can’t have Meek’s L’s rubbing on to Nas..

                • TheUnsungStoryteller

                  I thought she was with Drake. That’s what Buzzfeed said…

          • Hadassah

            I don’t know.

          • TheUnsungStoryteller

            Who isn’t dating Nicki Minaj now?

        • Even at all… EVERY LAST NEW RAPPER IS UGLY AS FUGG!

          • Quirlygirly

            They so ugly they got Lil Wayne looking decent.

            • TheUnsungStoryteller

              Mannnnn….

            • And you KNOW that’s ugly

          • Nitty Scott fine though

        • TheUnsungStoryteller

          STRAIGHT UP URCHINS…it’s like dude. Go back to school or at least get your hair done. You look jacked.

        • Professor

          Phonte makes excellent Grown Man Rap as well

      • Freebird

        He’s showing how you age musically in rap. Jay out here making Drake like sounds on songs with Bey.

        • MsSula

          Exactly.

        • Well at least it’s only for her! lol

          • Freebird

            According to her last album though….

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      • I think Nas expresses vulnerability in his music that he cannot do in personal relationships.

        • TheUnsungStoryteller

          Wow…that’s deep. You should be his therapist.

      • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

        Exactly. I need to see growth.

    • Kylroy

      Once you’ve been recording for 20 years, it’s hard to find much of anything new to put on a record – what do you have to say that you forgot about on the first 5-10 albums? This is why so many artists make songs about getting older – it’s the one thing their 20-year-old selves definitely had no insight on. Rappers get hit with this especially hard, because emphasis on authenticity and being “real” is so much more intense.

    • Giantstepp

      I think that Jay Z is another one that has risen above the old life style. He raps about where he is in his life now. Reasonable Doubt is a far cry from Magna Carter Holy Grail. IMO, he has shown consistent growth thru out the different stages of his life and career.

      • I don’t think so. “Magna Carter Holy Grail” was garbage.

        “Life is Good” has a rightful place in Nas’ top five albums of all time.

        • Sigma_Since 93

          this wasn’t about the album being good; it was about growth in the material.

          • I mean, tumors grow, but I don’t think anyone would call it quality growth.

            Jay evolved his natural, but not his artistry, so we thus get garbage albums like Blurprint 4 and MCHG.

            NAS green both his material and artistry, and we thus get strong albums.

        • “Magna Carter Holy Grail” was garbage.

          So trash. Low calorie trash.

        • Considering Nas has like 3 good albums that’s not a high bar

          • Illmatic.
            It Was Written.
            Stillmatic.
            The Lost Tapes.
            God’s Son.
            Street’s Disciple.
            Life is Good.

            I can count- that’s more than three. And three of those- Illmatic, Lost Tapes, and God’s Son- are what I consider classics.

        • Giantstepp

          Not rating the record, but speaking on lyrical context as it relates to current lives and age (old gangstas etc). I am a fan of Jay, but not necessarily that record. And for every rapper with multiple albums, there will be someone that thinks that some of them are “garbage”. Every single one of them! You assessment is fair if that’s how you feel.

        • Giantstepp

          I was not rating the record, but speaking to lyrical content as it relates to where rappers are in age and lifestyle. The content is different from his earlier records. I am a fan of Jay, but not necessarily that record. For every rapper with multiple albums out, there will be many that see some of them as garbage. Every single one of them. I’ve heard the same assessment of the “Life is Good” and “Hip Hop is dead” records from Nas.

          Gucci Mane wouldn’t be in my top 10 (maybe 20), but my 29 year old nephew swears he’s the best to EVER do it. lol Everybody has their thing in hip hop.

          • Can’t separate lyrical content from the art. You can have the hottest bars and most mature content- but if the music sucks, it sucks.

            • Giantstepp

              What sucks is subjective. Hip Hop is diverse and has grown into something I don’t often recognize or feel, but I accept that many do. I see artist I don’t get with packed shows, everyone into it–jamming while I scratch my head in amazement. Subjective.

      • TheUnsungStoryteller

        Ehhhhhhhh…I’ll take a no.

    • TheUnsungStoryteller

      I love Nas…and I can’t stand Jay Z and I feel indifferent about Snoop Lion so I agree with everything you just said. I hated the fact him and Kelis didn’t work out. They were sexy together. Lol.

      • MsSula

        I was legit heartbroken when they split. Because Kelis speaks to my little alternative heart so much, and I just love NAS, so I thought it was the best couple ever. Oh Well.

      • Blueberry01

        Apparently that’s what their neighbors said…or heard. Lol.

    • LoveTrenia

      Well said.

    • Uncle Remus

      Andre 3000 and Mos Def / Yasiin Bey are a couple more who made new music (for them and for the listeners) on each album out. Every one of their albums had to grow on me because it was so different from any other work at the time and every one of their albums are now music I can listen to from front to back and enjoy the work.

    • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

      Exactly this MM. I was coming here to point to Nas as the archetype of music that grows. Yet even on Life is Good, he keeps very authentic and real enough to define the complexity of all of us who come from the hood and may have ‘escaped’ it physically but still have a good portion of our souls caught up in it. Moreover, as a rap artists, there are a lot of little tidbits and stories and things that Nas has not reviewed or rapped explicitly about, so there are street, pay dues and flashing rhymes that still seem new coming from here. Another point that you didn’t mention explicitly, is that Nas (as he always has) does talk about politics, society and the community well-being in a way that can never become stale when it’s done effectively.

  • MsCee

    I can’t read a whole piece on Snoop Doggy Dogg…BUT, hey y’all! It’s Friday!

    • panamajackson

      Luckily this entire piece isn’t about him!

      • MsCee

        No shade was intended. I made it to Sweet Black…..so I did read most of it. Lol

      • Hadassah

        I skipped all the way to the cover being fire and disagree.

        • panamajackson

          How can you disagree on the cover being fire? Look at that young Snoop!

          • Hadassah

            I’m disagreeing to be disagreeeable. There is no logic behind it.

            • Val

              Lol

    • Gotta focus on your focus skills, my dear. You can read the entire thing!

      • MsCee

        I read a lot so my skills aren’t the issue. Let me clarify, the content on this one isn’t something that I’m interested enough in to try to form some kind of commentary…hence the reason I skipped over it and said hey to everybody. No shade intended.

    • MsSula

      Same. I skipped and picked up key information here and there. So yes, happy Friday!! Yesterday was a public holiday down these parts so today feels like a Monday rolled into a Friday.

      • MsCee

        Do you get a 3 day weekend for Memorial Day? If so, you outchea winning!

        • MsSula

          Not really. Memorial Day is not a thing here. We will get a 3-day weekend next weekend though as it is Pentecost.

          • MsCee

            Where are you?

            • MsSula

              Abidjan, Cote d’Ivoire. It’s on the coast in West Africa.

              • MsCee

                Ohhhhhhhhh, I thought you were in the states. Wow, I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone that actually lived in Africa. All my African friends were born and raised here. You just made my day, lol.

                • MsSula

                  Awwww. That’s so cute. I lived in Texas for about 12 years, but I have moved back home 5+ years ago.

                  Glad to make your day. :-)

                  • MsCee

                    I live in Texas! Born and raised! So you know your’re my VSBestie now, right?

              • Hadassah

                Their food is bomB.

                • MsSula

                  Yes, that’s the one thing I will always be able to brag on. Our food slays.

              • grownandsexy2

                Wish I were there.

                • MsSula

                  You’re welcome anytime! (Although it’s currently rainy season… better to come in September). :-)

                  • grownandsexy2

                    Thanks. Yeah, I was just checking the weather there and minus the rain, it looks like my kind of place.

    • InstaRaeN

      co-sign. i skipped RIGHT to the comments LMBO

  • outlyer06

    for the record lethal injection was cube’s last good album…….

    • panamajackson

      yeah, agree to disagree. i think it SOUNDED better but it was a clear shot to follow the Dr. Dre school of album making and quite a few songs were very forced. but, i won’t fight nobody over Lethal Injection.

      • outlyer06

        fair enough…

      • KB

        You Know How We Do It is my favorite Cube song of all time

        • panamajackson

          I do love that song. It’s perfect riding music. It’s so smooth.

          • KB

            That song and “We Can Freak It” by Kurupt are two of my west coast ridin songs

          • Aintnuthinwrongwitcornbread

            Bird in the Hand and Jackin for Beats for me. L-E-N-C-H M-O-B don’t get enough love.

  • Val

    “…but now I see this lanky N***a on TV with Martha Stewart…”

    White folks see Snoop Dogg as an example of the stereotypical Black male and
    they love to embrace him for that reason. It’s another example of the lowered expectations many White folks have with regard to Black folks in general.

    Side note: It’s frustrating when your comment is moderated for quoting from the post you are commenting about. Sigh.

    • panamajackson

      moderators gon’ moderate.

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    • Seymore Cases

      He’s safe, plus he seems to do decent work with his football leagues in SoCal (they put a lot of dudes in the NFL). Definitely stereotypical but I can respect that he doesn’t try to move out of his lane too much. Probably won’t be hanging out with Trump like Kanye and Steve Harvey.

      • Kylroy

        Snoop’s living his best life, harming nobody (now, at least…) and doing some good. Hard to knock him for that.

      • Hadassah

        About Steve Harvey….his end is nigh.

        • siante

          Have you seen the videos online about his ex wife?

          • Seymore Cases

            What’s going on with her?

            • siante

              To sum it up: Steve has done some shady stuff to her & it’s coming to the light- collusion during the divorce- getting married to the new woman before the assets were divided from his previous divorce. Not following the visitation order, taking her son & money & then throwing her in jail for non-payment of child support & then placing a gag order on her where she can end up in jail for 28 years if she tells her story. I’ve seen some of the documents since it’s all public record. I don’t know how he thought he was gonna get away with all of it smh.

          • Hadassah

            Giiiiiiiirl. Her street name is/was, Ms. Heroine.

            • grownandsexy2

              Isn’t his present bride Ms. Heroin and not his ex?

              • Hadassah

                Yes.

            • siante

              Her life story is interesting to say the least. She marries one cousin who’s a major drug king pin, has babies by him, he gets locked up, then she marries the next cousin who’s a major drug king pin & has a baby by him (which makes her kids siblings & cousins I think? & then he gets locked up & she manages to stay out of jail through all of this???? I want her to write a tell all.

              • Hadassah

                She doesnt acknowledge her past. We do.

                • siante

                  & the courts do as well (depending on how well she covered her tracks) we’ll see how it all plays out………..

                  • Hadassah

                    Which courts? Steve done bought them all out. From the lawyers to the judges.

              • Quirlygirly

                Maaaan..you can do dirt and it don’t come back to you one way or another

                • siante

                  I believe all that stuff catches up to a person eventually- life has a way of swinging back around on people when they least expect it.

                  • TheUnsungStoryteller

                    Can’t wait for it to happen to 45.

              • TheUnsungStoryteller

                Wow…she looks so together from what I’ve seen of her. Where did you find that information?

      • Val

        Safe? Safe for them, White folks, maybe but promoting gangs is certainly not safe for Black folks who live in gang infested communities. And why would anyone let someone who promotes gang violence and misogyny coach their kids? Smh.

        • Seymore Cases

          Yeah that’s what I mean, safe for whites’ consumption. There’s also a moral relativism argument. In absolute terms, he’s problematic. Historically though, there have been quite a few rappers that really were ’bout that life moreso than Snoop (Master P for instance), so Snoop by comparison looks harmless.

        • Ni66as are ALWAYS gonna Ni6!

        • JulianWithTheRedCorvette

          From what I understand, parents try really hard to get their kids involved in that league. Apparently, Long Beach has so few resources for children in poor communities that Snoop’s football league is something of a godsend for a lot of people who want their sons to stay away from the streets.

    • Sigma_Since 93

      You can’t be taken seriously in the hood when you’re baking with Martha Stewart.

      • Val

        Why? Martha is a criminal.

      • Gibbous

        Are you telling me the “hood” doesn’t respect money & TV?

        • Sigma_Since 93

          I can’t see Snoop checking Martha for wearing the wrong colors on set.

          • Cheech

            I wanna hear him rap about insider trading, lying to the FBI, and teaching macrame in minimum at Alderson.

            • Sigma_Since 93

              “I wanna hear him rap about insider trading,”

              My lil homie gave me the scoop on LB

              I put down a G and now my pockets so swole I look obese

              I promise not to give up my day job; I’m not vested yet! lol

          • Charles Johnson

            Wife: so how was work today?
            Snoop: Martha came in today with red blouse with a red apron!!
            Wife: the nerve!
            Snoop: I know! I asked why and she said “I’m just bickin back being bool”
            Wife: Bish whet?!
            Snoop: I almost had a worldstar moment, but I knew she was trying to test me. So I said “Jesus Christ Holy Ghost Fire! Not Today!”
            Wife: but forreal tho, we gon roll up on the bytch or nah?
            Snoop: you see that’s why I love you.

          • Gibbous

            No, but I can see the “hood” watching them together on TV whilst cackling!

      • Bruh! and the innuendos are GROSS!

        • Charles Johnson

          I’d smash. Am I Rite?!

        • SororSalsa

          I lost my appetite when Martha was feeding Rick Ross like she wanted to slide up in those DM’s. [shivers]

          • That whole episode was gross as hayle… AND RICK ROSS IS A DAYUM CREEP.

            • Aye Bee

              That episode most def made me cringe!

      • Martha did a bid homie.

        • lmao

        • SororSalsa

          For that reason, Martha’s more real than half the dudes Snoop has made records with. At least if Martha got on wax talking about life in the pen, I’d know she was actually there. Coordinating the bed sheet to the steel bars, I’m sure, but still there.

    • AnotherBlackGirl

      Snoop is way too old to still be gangbanging. He should have left that lifestyle years ago. How can anyone take him seriously when he still glorifies this way of life?

  • Seymore Cases

    Those were the times. Watch Def Comedy Jam from the early 90’s and then imagine comedians making those jokes today.

    I’m firmly in #TeamMillenial (1986), but my arms-length opinion on Black Gen Xers was that they felt this overwhelming sense of disappointment. The promise of the Civil Rights Movement and potential for a better future was dashed by Reganomics, crack babies and the realization that all of these trusted “leaders” lied to them. There’s an anger there that you don’t see today. Black Gen X anger in those days is like the Alt-Right of today. I’m not saying it’s the SAME but both sides feel like they’ve been cheated in some way. The songs and the culture were two big, black middle fingers to The Establishment. Misogyny was low on the list of -isms that needed to be corrected in those days, I guess.

    By contrast, I think Millenials are more optimistic but also more tired. The Gen Xer was full of energy like a hyperactive kid or a Tasmanian Devil. Our generation feels like Ehrmantraut from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul.

    • MsSula

      I like this breakdown. Anthropology analysis of musical eras. Brilliant.

    • Brown Rose

      I think this is a good breakdown, speaking as a late, late X’r. We are also far more cynical and a ruthless level of self sufficiency then Boomers and Millennials.

      • outlyer06

        i’m definitely more cynical and disillusioned as of late…i’m noticing that in some of my closest circles…even tho most of are doing well economically

        • Brown Rose

          For X’rs were was a level of disdain from Boomers and the older generation that Millenials don’t have. After all it was called the slacker generation among other things and there was never a sense that the X Generation was a great generation. So there is always this underlying cynicism that runs underneath. Coupled with what the OP mentioned on how devastated communities were because of violence, drugs, and racism, even if you survived all that and are doing well now, that cultural memory never goes away.

          • Zil Nabu

            Gen X is amazing. We gave the world Clueless, Mallrats, Reality Bites, Beverly Hills 90210, and Melrose Place.

      • Seymore Cases

        Xers have Boomer ego minus the pretentiousness. Xers are like “yeah, I’m hitting you in the face.” Boomers are more “if your face hits my knuckles, so be it.”

        Millenials will hack your Facebook and post weird stories about you.

        • We Xers will hit you in the face then go schedule an appointment with our shrinks.

      • TheUnsungStoryteller

        Yesss I definitely agree. You guys have seen some pretty terrible things in the U.S.

    • Rastaman

      I am not into this inter generational squabble because I believe people haven’t changed since the first ashy feet sister walked out of that African bush eons ago. Times change we humans have not really evolved as much. We have been teetering on that line between barbarism and civility for as long as we have existed on this planet if you disagree (see Trump election circa 2016). But as someone who has been of majority since the 90s and is alive now, i can tell you that the differences are minuscule. I work with millennials and the IQ level is no different and so is the social consciousness. Liking or retweeting are on the same level as wearing kente cloth clothing as it applies to social activism or being woke.
      Someone wrote that “middle age seems to act as hip hop kryptonite.”, it is hard to argue with that because what no one wants to admit is that the music is intended as a vehicle for the young. Millennials I do notice are way more nostalgic than their parents especially about the art and music of their parent’s time.

      • Michelle

        I was once berated by “hip hop purists”, who were equal parts hotep and pretentious music snobs (a.k.a. middle-aged, Black men who watched “Hidden Colors” one too many times and still wore their hair in mild high-tops), because I said that hip-hop/rap is a ‘young man’s game’. If I had to use a slogan for the genre, I would say ‘Live fast, die young’. It wasn’t intended for the elderly or the middle-aged.

      • Seymore Cases

        We definitely appreciate the “old school” stuff. It’s weird for me because I’ll see people born in the late 60’s through the late 70’s talking about “ol skool” music that was made in the 80’s and 90’s. I’m like “that’s not old school.” Old school to me Howlin Wolf, Muddy Waters, early Motown etc., not New Edition. Basically, when live bands were the norm and not the exception for black groups.

    • BOOM!

    • TheUnsungStoryteller

      I get that. This was great. I see that anger especially with my dad…

  • ????????

    Snoops in this weird space where he’s far removed from his life in the early 90s. But he still wants his street cred to be at the levels it was back in ’94.

    Unfortunately for him, people in general now think of him as pot smoking Uncle Snoop, more so than “Murder was the Case” Snoop.

    There’s this guy Wack 100 (Games manager/ Piru) who is like 5 years older than Snoop but acts like a teenage gangbanger.

    It’s legit cringe worthy to watch Full Grown Black Men act like teenagers

    But I love ignorant sh*t so…

    • panamajackson

      Wack does need to chill. I agree. The thing about Snoop, and why that makes no sense, is that he is like universally beloved by almost everybody. Even folks he had beef with back in the day love Snoop now. If Snoop feels a need for street cred now, especially it would not benefit him in the slightest, that would be the definition of hustling backwards.

      • Giantstepp

        Wack is the worst. I will never understand old dudes repping gang sets way past the age of 30. A sad look.

        • Michelle

          And what makes it worse, try being a gangbanger past the age of 40 and having health problems. I had an uncle, who passed last year unexpectedly. He was in his late-forties. Career criminal. And when I say ‘career criminal’, I mean that this man earned his first legal job, when he was in his mid-forties, only to quit after working for two years. So, there was no social security for him. Or a pension. When he died, he died without a substantial amount of money and no property in his name. For his funeral, his ex-wife, his mother and my mother had to spend their hard-earned cash to provide a funeral service for him.

          • Giantstepp

            Sad. Some waste so much of time in the streets doing nothing, then the realization comes that they need to do something different– but they are older, haven’t finished HS, no skills or trade, so the streets are all that they know and often they return to that. I have a cousin that fits this directly. He’s done close to 20 years in prison of his 44 years of his life. And he is still doing the same thing.

        • You should’ve seen the old bangers providing “security” for W. Kamau Bell the other night on CNN. It was scary to Kamau knowing they were all strapped. One dude couldn’t even make the interview because got shot moments earlier.

      • ????????

        I think it’s something to do with a Black man’s need to be respected. Even if that mindset doesn’t lead anywhere helpful at times.

      • grownandsexy2

        When Snoop makes an appearance on any black awards show, the audience goes crazy.

    • outlyer06

      that dude is annoying…on social media threatening dudes and doing that soulja boy crap

  • Courtney Wheeler

    As ive gotten older and working in entertainment, I’ve learned a lot of things. Most importantly the rappers I grew up with…the ones I know, love, but mostly thought were edgy or “badass” Most of the time it was all PR spin. NWA, Dre, Snoop, they weren’t as “hard” as they portrayed. That was a fun time in music but it was also dangerous. Misogyny was at a all time high and the violence was out of control.

    I kinda miss the gritty New York-ish style of rap but it’s definitely toned down and I like the fact that rappers experiment more.

    Or maybe I’m just old now.

    • raul

      That’s what I’m saying. I don’t recall a whole lot of folks taking the posturing seriously back in the day and those who did were the objects of ridicule. For some of the actual rappers the line obviously got blurred but from the fan perspective it was and is easy to see it for the dramatization that it is.

  • StillThatBitxh

    “Doggy Fizzle Televizzle” is the most I remember being exposed to Snoop growing up. Who remembers that show?!

    I’m a millennial so I guess I’m supposed to know all about OG Snoop and I know some but…I was sheltered in the country so my exposure to hip hop was limited. I had church music and whatever I could catch on the radio lol. So the Uncle Snoop we know and love is more familiar to me. I don’t mind the new album????

  • PDL….HE still working on me

    In other words, lies. Tee hee hee

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