Sh*t Bougie Black People Love

Sh*t Bougie Black People Love: “Intelligent” Conversations About Reality TV

One picture says 100,000 BBP words

One picture says 100,000 BBP words

The next time you happen across a few random BBP in the street or waiting in line at Target, ask them to do one of their favorite things: name a few qualities an ideal mate would possess. They will not volunteer this information—after all, BBP want others to believe they’re humble—but they won’t hesitate to provide it if prompted.

A few common themes will be found in these answers. Often, these themes are separated by gender. For instance, Bougie Black Girls seem to be preternaturally obsessed with worldliness. They won’t actually say “he must be worldly” though. Instead, they’ll make references to not being able to seriously date someone unless he owns a working passport. They’ll explain their need for prospective suitors to own passports by saying it shows a willingness to be open-minded.

This, naturally, is bullshit, as the main reason passports are a necessity is that it shows that the suitor has enough disposable income to make frequent trips abroad. But, they know how important it is to seem humble, and stressing “it probably means he’s open-minded” sounds a lot more humble than “it probably means he has money.”

Bougie Black Dudes, on the other hand, will often mention how much they love it when women have natural hair. This is not untrue. In relation to their need to be connected in some way to regular Blacks, BBP—men and women—have become infatuated with the concept of natural hair¹. Savvy Bougie Black Dudes, aware of this infatuation, know they’ll get “points” if heard expressing an affinity for weave and perm-less women.

But, they’ll conveniently leave out that this affinity usually only extends to conventionally attractive women with natural hair or women with “good” hair who have made the decision to go natural. Basically, either pretty women whose hair makes absolutely no difference with how pretty they are, or women whose natural hair is as soft and voluminous as weave tends to be.

There are some qualities, though, that both Bougie Black Girls and Bougie Black Dudes tend to have on their lists. One is “the ability to have “intelligent” conversations about “serious” topics.” The “serious” topic usually has something to do with the economy or the prison-industrial system or Asia or whichever other “smart” and “serious” topic is currently being discussed on The Root or MSNBC’s The Cycle. The reasons for this are pretty obvious. BBP want to be seen as “smart” and “serious,” and “need” to be with people who are equally “smart” and “serious” so they won’t feel self-conscious about taking them to company functions and Delta boat rides.

Yet, aside from BBP either employed by the federal government or looking to impress a future father-in-law, BBP very rarely actually have these “smart” and “serious” conversations, and—like most people—would be suspicious of and bored by someone who always did.

What they really want is someone who’s able to make intelligent points about very dumb shit. For BBP, “very dumb shit” = “most popular rap music” and (most importantly) “reality television shows featuring Black people living in New York, Atlanta, Miami, or L.A..”

That BBP are in love² with the holy trinity of Black reality television shows (Real Housewives of Atlanta, Basketball Wives, and Love and Hip-Hop) is perhaps the BBP’s worst-kept secret. For the uninitiated, each show revolves around a group of extremely well-coiffed 25 to 45 year old women who have weekly water-throwing battles to help stay in shape. At first glance, this doesn’t seem like the type of fare the image-conscious BBP would enjoy. But, while most of the women on these shows act, dress, and look like they’re from Mars, there are a few underlying themes many BBP can relate to. Who hasn’t been a concubine for an aging rapper at least once?

Also, BBP relish the opportunity to live vicariously through these characters, as it helps quench the urge to do “hoodrat things” like “fighting on a tiny boat” and “having kids before 30” that grad school and an undying fear of human resource professionals prevented them from doing.

With this appreciation for these shows, it’s no surprise they’re a frequent topic of conversation when BBP communicate with each other. But, while the subject matter is “stupid,” the conversations tend not to be, as you’re likely to hear some of the most lucid and cogent theories, arguments, and opinions you’ll ever hear from a BBP. Perhaps they’re not interested in explaining exactly what sequestration means, but give em three hours and they’ll be able to write a 2000-word deconstruction unpacking the parallels between John the Baptist and Nene Leakes.

The need to have these intelligent conversations about reality television shows featuring Black people comes from a simple place. Keeping up with these shows helps the BBP convince themselves they’re not too bougie to still understand and appreciate regular Black people—even if these characters tend to be more “faux bourgie” than “regular Black”—while the intelligent conversation reminds the BBP and anyone paying attention that “Hey, we enjoy and appreciate hoodrat things (from afar), but we’re still BBP!!!”

(If not buying any of this, remember that since Girlfriends no longer airs and there’s no Black equivalent of HBO’s Girls or Sex in the City, BBP don’t have much to choose from if wanting to see Black people on TV. Moral of the story: When all else fails, just blame White people.)

¹Ironically, although natural hair is one of the things BBP associate with being “authentically Black,” you’re much more likely to find a BBP with natural hair than a regular Black.

² Do not let the BBP convince you this love is ironic. It is not. It is both unironic and unconditional, and anyone doubting the depth of this love needs to just ask a random Bougie Black Girl “Which basketball wife are you?” and watch her spend three to five minutes happily explaining exactly why she’s more of a “Tammy” than an “Evelyn.”

 

—Damon Young (aka “The Champ”)

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a contributing editor for EBONY.com. He resides in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes.

  • http://fourpageletter.wordpress.com keisha brown

    LOL.
    this is hilarious.
    *goes to twist my hair tho.

    • Think2Inspire

      With shea butter tho?

      • AfroPetite

        Perhaps coconut oil with a splash of peppermint to stimulate blood flow to the scalp.

        • camilleblue

          THIS!!

      • renae

        with shea butter i brought whilst in africa…not in harlem on 125th (sips tea)

        • Regular Black

          In the covered market where I bargained for it in the local dialect, which I learned in

    • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

      Ok, I know all of the natural VSS’s will appreciate this… I FINALLY found a stylist who can do natural hair! Yay! I’ve been natural for over a year and she’s the first stylist to have any idea what to do with my hair. Plus she still a student so her rates are really, really low. BONUS!

      Anyway, last night she did this really pretty braided style for me and I feel super cute today *twirls*

      • camilleblue

        girl…don’t you feel like you just hit the jackpot?? cause natural hair salons are pricey…

        • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

          YES! I wanted to give her a hug but didn’t wanna be too much of a creeper, so I just gave her a really good tip instead lol.

          I didn’t realize natural hair salons were expensive.

          • IcePrincess3

            My homegirl at my school has the most beautiful natural hair I’ve ever seen. She just washes it then wraps it in old school sponge rollers. It creates these bouncey shirlt temple curls. It’s so healthy & shiny jet black. She said she wanna dye it, & I’m like noooooo!! I like it when black girls wear black hair. It just looks better than blonde, red, whatever. Her hair is beyond gorge.

            • Kema

              Well I’m coloring my hair today! Auburn! Yay! I color once a year so its a very big deal. :-)

              • camilleblue

                get it kema! show us a pic when it’s done..

              • IcePrincess3

                Awesome! I get super excited when I color my hair too. It’s so fun being a girl, isn’t it :-)

                • Dreadlock smitten

                  not when the crimson tide is due or past due, uh uh.

              • http://dominicanabanana.wordpress.com Asiyah

                I’m thinking of coloring it too, Kema. Reddish brown. Maybe if my hair is a lighter shade I’ll be less dark lol

                • Kema

                  Sounds pretty! Go light for summer.:-)

  • lifesajourney09

    I am about to copy and past this to a friend’s FB status from the other day inquiring why everyone only wants to talk about hood rat things when there are more important things happening that need our attention. Mind you, his previous 10 posts were about hood rat things as where the subsequent 10.

  • iamnotakata

    If this is the criteria for bougie, well then I guess I’m not. Granted I do have natural hair, but my hair has been natural for the past 7 years far before the whole natural hair revolution happened.I also have mixed feelings about being called “bougie”. I don’t classify my self as a bougie type person, but I have been referred to as such and I disagree. I say this because I am super frugal, although I have been out of the country, it is nothing special to me and I don’t tote around my passport like its a rolex watch that everyone should know about.

    I often find when around other women of color that I guess outright try to be “bougie” if I’m referred to as bougie and they are not…there is a little shade and they act offended. I attribute this assumed behavior that people claim I exhibit to my growing up in the Austin suburbs around white folks and then now living in extra urban, extra hood Houston…Plus I think brown people here are not accustom to brown people speaking proper English…

    • Jen

      LOL. This doesn’t apply to me, either. I don’t have a tv. I certainly don’t have cable. I have natural hair, but will wear a weave in a second. The traits I am looking for in a man are intelligence and good judgment. I kind of assume everybody I socialize with has a passport, so I would not think to ask. I tend to be quiet until I find other people who have interesting perspectives on ideas, social phenomena, law/policy (I tend to distinguish these from politics) or other topics I care about. Otherwise, reading is more interesting.

      • Rewind

        You may not have TV or cable…but you do watch some TV shows on your computer right?

        But +1 for being a reader.

        • Jen

          Of course! Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Game of Thrones. I just got into Scandal after a full year of peer pressure, though, sadly, it cannot touch the former three shows. Also, I watch Modern Family if it is on TV while I’m at my parents’ house. That’s about it, though. I can’t imagine people streaming reality TV onto their computers, although Netflix keeps recommending me these shows ever since I watched Scandal.

          Thanks, Scandal.

          • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

            Oooh… I cannot WAIT for the new season of Mad Men!

          • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

            Seasons 1 and 2 of GOT have been my weekend work buddies. I’m ready for little Jeffrey to get beheaded.

            • camilleblue

              right??? he is such a shytty little b@stard….

            • camilleblue

              and daenerys is coming for her throne with those dragons tho…

              • Rewind

                Daenerys goes into OG mode this season.

            • BKSweetheart

              YES.

            • Rewind

              Oh he gets something better than beheaded.

              I love books.

          • http://twitter.com/inomallday Shamira

            I’ve been meaning to try again with Game of Thrones…I watched half of the first ep and wasnt too into it. But who’s gonna come up off that HBOGo password and let me be great?

            • Kema

              Girl you better find the show you wanna watch online. I use 1channel.ch

              • http://dominicanabanana.wordpress.com Asiyah

                Me too! Or tubeplus.me

          • Rewind

            Ok good, you’re honest.

            I talked to someone who said she doesn’t watch TV, and criticized people for watching TV, yet knew all the TV shows because she watched them on her computer. She literally thought her comment did not make her a hypocrite because she actually watched the shows on her laptop instead of a TV.

            And GAME OF F*CKING THRONES IS ABOUT TO COMMENCE! I just finished reading the third book. This season is going to be some gotdamn awesome.

            • camilleblue

              so, has the show stayed true to the books so far??

              • Rewind

                It’s changed a lot of details. Honestly, all the Winterfell kids are supposed to be…kids..not adults like Robb & John are. Robb & John are technically 16 in the book, Sansa is 13, Arya is 12, Brann is 10, and & Rickon is 6. Danerys is like 13 when she marries Drogo.
                Helps flesh out the story more when you realize all these horrible things are happening to little kids.

                Other than that, things changed for dramatic views but it mostly sticks to the books. I love it.

                • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

                  my future daughter may just be named Danerys or Khaleesi. For all that stuff I said about kids’ names, I love those names.

                  • camilleblue

                    ok wip…when she come home with a baby grand-dragon don’t say nothin’…

            • Jen

              Well, I think that the “I don’t watch/own TV” is becoming a popular thing to say because people want to demonstrate that their lives do not revolve around television. You know, how you can come into some people’s homes any time of night or day and the TV is on–whether or not anyone is watching it? Yeah, that. I don’t dislike TV. I enjoy all sorts of media and absolutely love certain shows. I just don’t have a lot of time for it because I am involved in other things. I’m probably going to get a TV next month. But I don’t watch enough TV to invest in cable.

              • Rewind

                See that’s reasonable to me. I could move away from cable if I wanted, since I know ways to get every TV show I want, and things like Hulu Plus exist…but you’re right, when you’re busy, it makes no sense to have a cable bill.

          • http://www.alltherightquestions.com T.Q. Fuego

            This Jen sounds like a keeper. I also love breaking bad and game of thrones. What have u been reading lately? Since u have such good taste in shows I’m gonna trust ur tastes in reading material.

            • Jen

              Thanks.

              I am reading Another Country and re-reading Hitchhiker’s Guide since they just published a new book in that series and it was a childhood love. Just read Silver Linings since I liked the movie. The book’s message was better than the movie, but the movie was a better movie than the book was book (a rarity). People have been encouraging me to go ahead and read the A Song of Ice and Fire books since I love Game of Thrones so much, so that’ll probably be up next.

          • http://www.alltherightquestions.com T.Q. Fuego

            This Jen sounds like a keeper. I also love breaking bad and game of thrones. What have u been reading lately? Since u have such good taste in shows I’m gonna trust ur tastes in reading material.

  • Malik

    BBP seem like the most shallow and insipid Black people to ever be around going by these VSB posts.

    • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

      Burn…

    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

      @Malik:
      “BBP seem like the most shallow and insipid Black people to ever be around going by these VSB posts.”

      O: That’s because…

      They are.

      O.

      • The Guy Formerly Know As Hmmmm

        ding. ding.

    • Rewind

      I wasn’t aware a different version existed.

  • That Ugly Kid

    B-but, I love natural hair regardless of how attractive the woman is. Even with women who are….facially misunderstood…I still enjoy seeing them go natural. I mean sure, I’d rather play in her hair than to look at her face, but I still admire it (the hair, not the face).

    Then again, I’m not sure that what ever meant to apply to me in the first place. I’m not a Bougie Black Dude. Nor a Diva Dude. In fact, I have absolutely no clue what I am. Kinda bothers me now that I think about it…

    • That Ugly Kid

      that was*

    • Dreadlock smitten

      “facially misunderstood” LOL!! :)

      • That Ugly Kid

        Yes, don’t act like you don’t know what’s goin down in these street…

        • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com Tristan

          the facially misunderstood struggle is real outchea

      • Rewind

        facially misunderstood clique represents hardbody.

    • AfroPetite

      *picks out afro and slides dangerously close to TUK*

  • Breeze

    Haha, your officialy a genius to me. Since I’ve been following this blog, every so often you nail me with your points on black women, I’ve been very guilty of exhibiting such qualities (the good ones mostly i promiseeee) but this sh*t right herreee man! *emoji tears*

    The “he must be worldly” tag line is my classic guy of my dreams description! I’m only a sophomore so I’ve yet to go abroad, but even in highschool, worldiness to me was just knowing that yes, theres black people on the other side of the city, or in London, and its okay for us to like rock music too. Now days, i guess i’ve upgraded my boujie man standards to requesting a “cultured gentleman of color”, who doesn’t take me to bars we go to wine-tasting n’shit.

    I also get a lot of heat for not always bearing my god given gift of “good hair” I choose to wear 20 in hair extensions, but STILL i’m boujie because of the type of hair I buy– to me its not about showing up hoodrats its a freakin investment! I was blessed with a mama that took care of my hair so I can wear it natural and I very often do. but alas, weave is my vice and I will go down a black dudes throat who chooses to heavily criticize my “white washed self perception”, when they choose to date white women because they’re “low maintenance” , or call a black girl who has a little wave in her hair and light pigment “exotic”. Self professed culturally aware black men today wouldn’t go near a dark skinned, kinked or afro-haired woman without looking at it from a back-to-africa perspective and not diversity amongst who we are today.

    “But, they’ll conveniently leave out that this affinity usually only extends to conventionally attractive women with natural hair or women with “good” hair who have made the decision to go natural. Basically, either pretty women whose hair makes absolutely no difference with how pretty they are, or women whose natural hair is as soft and voluminous as weave tends to be.”
    —this disclaimer isn’t so much about the weave as it is about the girls sexual appeal itself, but the REALEST SHIT EVERY ANYWAY

    • http://www.twitter.com/IluminatiNYC Todd

      Now days, i guess i’ve upgraded my boujie man standards to requesting a “cultured gentleman of color”, who doesn’t take me to bars we go to wine-tasting n’shit.

      Well, you would have loved my VSB NYC meet-and-greet. I actually did it at a wine bar. Of course, I had to school a Certain VSS on wine Yoles, this means you but it all worked out for the best. :)

      Oh, and I agree on that real ish about attractiveness. To me, if you date someone to make a statement, the only chick that man should be dating is Rosie Palmer and her 5 friends. GTFOHWTBS

      • http://twitter.com/inomallday Shamira

        Todd, I think you and I have to get to hunting on a NYC VSB whiskey brunch…they must exist, surely! (And I’ll actually come this time…)

        • LMNOP

          Whiskey brunch?!?!

          That does not sound healthy.

          • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

            OK, what happened to Mimosas??

            • camilleblue

              go hard or stay home wip!! lol..

            • http://twitter.com/inomallday Shamira

              LOL I’m a fan of mimosas/bellinis and such as well. This was just an offshoot of an earlier conversation, and mostly in jest. But the key is to eat plenty of carbs :)

            • KENYADIGIT

              Got to upgrade to a Bromosa

            • kid video

              OK, what happened to Mimosas??

              Does Cold Duck count?

        • Rewind

          Whisky brunch? Leave it to me. I will find it. And by find it, I mean sample the goods and type to you in a drunken stupor.

          • http://twitter.com/inomallday Shamira

            yes please!!!!!!

      • Rewind

        So because I chilled with you in a wine bar, my girlfriend now hates my guts because I would never go to a wine bar with her before.

        she doesn’t seem to understand it was just a place for us to group up and it wasn’t anything personal, but she don’t wanna hear it.

        • camilleblue

          d@mn rewind! your girl stay giving you the bidness! lol…

          • Rewind

            Because I surely know how to pick them.

            She’ll be alright.

        • http://dominicanabanana.wordpress.com Asiyah

          I love wine bars! (says the Muslim who doesn’t drink)

          Those cheese platters fulfill my needs!

          • Rewind

            They had a hummus platter that was great for my empty stomach, and some fancy ass cheeses that I can’t pronounce

        • http://www.twitter.com/IluminatiNYC Todd

          Well, look on the bright side. I get the business for MUCH more trivial stuff than that. If you only knew the stuff I don’t put on here. LOL But sorry bro. Didn’t mean to blow up your spot.

      • http://dominicanabanana.wordpress.com Asiyah

        I always miss the fun stuff! Effin’ sister having a bday and ish. Me being schooled on wine is like a halal or kosher chef being schooled on how to make pork. Totally useless but good to know I guess?

        • Rewind

          I’m not a wine person. But Todd suggested one and it was pretty good. But he gipped me on going to a bar! So he owes me a shot of Jameson.

          And he gave me a good lesson on beer. I don’t care for that either but it is good to know. He’s about his business.

        • http://www.twitter.com/IluminatiNYC Todd

          Believe it or not, it wouldn’t be completely useless. The same principles that apply to wine tasting apply to all sorts of beverages as well. You just have to work harder to get the same effects. :)

    • Wild Cougar

      What you say about the weave?! The troof, girl. I get weave, braids, twists, and I’ve gone natural. Natural is not a good look. Doesn’t fit my face. Anyways, I recently changed from twists to a weave and as much as bougie Twitter dudes protested, I get way more attention with the weave. Ain’t brand new with it, because I saw that phenomenon last time I got weave. Bougie men gazing in my face like I’m suddenly girlfriend material, looked right past me with the twists. I’ll go back to braids or twists or whatever when the wind shifts. I’m a black woman. Privileges.

      Anyway, know what’s funny? The weave-ologist laughed at my (very high quality) Remy hair and strongly urged me to put in some virgin Brazilian. Expensive stuff. She figured I chose the Remy because I don’t know what’s good. Put in the 10in hair and it looks like mine, the texture is slightly coarse. Meanwhile, one of my haters was bragging about her $800 16in super shiny wavy virgin Brazilian, and it looks cheap on her head.

      • Ms. Bridget

        Sometimes that super shiny stuff * uber expensive*looks like Barbie hair…

        • Wild Cougar

          I KNOW right? And all that silky shiny stuff on a black woman screams weave. I just can’t

          • camilleblue

            i love to see a weave that you don’t know is weave…those are the best!! the shiny stuff seems tragic – especially when you see a big ‘ol lump of the real hair up around the edges..

            • Wild Cougar

              shut yo mouth about the lump of real hair on the edges…..lmao

              • AfroPetite

                Gotta get that low luster weave. Blends very well with AA hair textures

      • Rewind

        I remember watching Good Hair. To know that some weaves top $1K is mind boggling.

        • http://www.alltherightquestions.com T.Q. Fuego

          +1 Rewind. Also some of the same gender hostility towards chicks we see no issue with is startin to make sense now. There r big money investment decisions at stake in this competition. Never thought about. “The sh*t’s chess not checkers” lol

          • Rewind

            Seriously, the more you find out, the more the hostility makes sense at times.

  • AfroPetite

    OOOOOOOO!!! Loving the new layout *looks around with awe*

    • AfroPetite

      Awwww sh*t there’s a recent comments section to da left to da left!

    • That Ugly Kid

      Tell me about it!!! I looked at the new layout, got excited, jizzed in my drawz, got mad, changed drawz, looked at the new layout again, jizzed again, said “F*ck it” and decided not to wear any bottoms at all, and now I’m sitting here on dangle mode.

      That’s how awesome this new layout is!!! Got a n*gga free ballin’ an sh*t!

      • AfroPetite

        Clothes are totally overrated though lol

        • Think2Inspire

          I’ve been saying this for years but the laws won’t let me be great!

          • AfroPetite

            *yells* Deez laws won’t hold us back! Deez laws won’t hold us back!

            • That Ugly Kid

              *yells* Deez drawz tryna hold my sack! Deez drawz tryna hold my sack!

              • camilleblue

                you are stooopid!!

              • Wild Cougar

                Lmao

        • Rewind

          Negative, clothes saved his keyboard. Clorox can only clean but so much.

      • Kema

        *squeals* And there’s a time stamp!!!! Wooo! (Yes I’m a woo girl.)

  • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com Val

    Wow, new digs. Nice. You just need to center that photo and everything will be perfect.

    “reality television shows featuring Black people living in New York, Atlanta, Miami, or L.A..”

    Especially the ones in Atlanta. Those Atlanta folks are out of control. In fact, they have almost completely turned me off to Atlanta. Those Nene Leakes types have taken over, apparently. And, to think, Atlanta used to be a perfectly respectable city. Those reality TV people are lucky I’m not the mayor of Atlanta. I’d ban all reality TV shows being filmed in Atlanta proper.

    Was that bougie enough? :-)

    • Latonya

      Yeah you are right, the reality TV shows in the ATL are to much Big Rich ATL, Bad Girls ATL,RHOATL and Love and Hip Hop ATL. I guess it is the perfect city for ratchet TV.

      • Sweet GA Brown

        The majority of the ppl on those reality shows are not from GA. Most of them havent resided in Atlanta for more that 7 yrs.

    • http://www.twitter.com/IluminatiNYC Todd

      I think there was a movement to actually try to ban shows from filming there for that reason. There are a lot of residents who think like you.

    • http://dominicanabanana.wordpress.com Asiyah

      I have a love-hate relationship with NeNe Leakes. She’s loud, obnoxious, over-the-top, and annoying, but I still like her. It might have to do with her putting Kim and Sheree on blast. Kim did turn out to be an opportunist and Sheree a total hater. *sigh* I can’t believe I’m discussing this LOL.

      • Wild Cougar

        I love Nene. She is realest. She’s the one I’m most like. Online. And drunk.

        • IcePrincess3

          +10 Nene is my girl, also candy. The rest are lames.

          • http://dominicanabanana.wordpress.com Asiyah

            I’m happy that the 3 of us can love and appreciate NeNe. None of my friends watch RHOATL :(

        • camilleblue

          i did nene….i think that she has calmed down a bit now that she has an acting career…she seems more more at peace…she’s doing more of the laughing instead of the fighting now…

          • camilleblue

            *dig*

  • Think2Inspire

    “Who hasn’t been a concubine for an aging rapper at least once?”

    *raises hand*
    But the economy still isn’t bad enough for me to get pregnant by a rapper yet.

    • That Ugly Kid

      I rap…whaddup doe?

    • Rewind

      *plays 50 Cent f/ Ne-yo – Play No Games*

      Have a baby be my baby/be a millionaire.

      Now get to work.

      • IcePrincess3

        In your case, rewind, it would go “have a baby by me, baby/ be on welfare.” JK lmaoooo

        • Rewind

          Aint no jokes, that’s the absolute truth!

          We’ll be W.I.C royalty!

    • http://www.shay-d-lady.com shay-d-lady

      “Who hasn’t been a concubine for an aging rapper at least once?”

      ummm lol
      i need a definition for both “concubine” and “aging”

      • That Ugly Kid

        Details…now.

      • Sweet GA Brown

        Concubine = Jumpoff
        Aging = washed out(when describing said rappers)

  • rooseveltdunn

    I am African from a good family born and raised in Italy and I have lived in America for almost 10 years I have 3 passports, been to 3 continents and speak 3 languages…..I still watch worldstarhiphop fight comps every week, Love and hip hop NY and basketball wives. In the end the whole “bougie black” thing is just another label people wanna use (Americans seem enamored with labels for some reason) I think everyone is different and for the most part simply a product of his or her environment, a person who is 100 % bougie all the time would be insufferable. That been said this was a very good post

    • http://saysmeblog.wordpress.com/ Aly

      I think everyone is different and for the most part simply a product of his or her environment, a person who is 100% bougie all the time would be insufferable.

      Makes sense, nice summary.

    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

      @RD:
      It’s not an “American thing” it’s a human thing – the human need to form hierarchies and pecking orders, the human need to signify class and rank, and so forth. Buppies aren’t doing anything more or less than Whites, Asians, Hispanics and other groups around the world, are doing. The problem when it comes to us, i.e., Black folks in America, is our unique history of being the red-headed stepchild to the wider/Whiter American family. More on this below in the thread.

      O.

      • Ms. Bridget

        Thanks O. I was hoping someone would say this.

      • Rewind

        True indeed. Black people have too much self-hatred and blow everything out of proportion. You just stopped me from going on a rant.

        Thank you.

      • http://dominicanabanana.wordpress.com Asiyah

        O. is right on this one.

    • Wild Cougar

      What’s a “good” family? You’d have to be from elsewhere, flashing qualifications like Id at the airport. You do know that’s considered….un subtle here, right?

      • http://www.alltherightquestions.com T.Q. Fuego

        Lol, yeah u r like Nene Leakes. I agree tho. Don’t think he meant it in a snooty way, but youre right it wasn’t very subtle and it seemed more like a foreign thing to say, but he did say he was a product of his (international) environment right? You’re just proving his point lol

      • rooseveltdunn

        Unusubtle in what way ? The point was not about my family it was about the bougie label been unnecessary