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7 things i’ve thought about erykah badu and her “window seat” video

1. after making a few jump shots in a row, occasionally lebron james will race down court the next time he gets the ball and shoot an uncontested 35 to 40 footer with 20 seconds left on the shot clock (watch from 0:29 to 0:59 here for an example). for those not familiar with basketball, doing this is the equivalent of approaching your manager to ask for a raise and your own parking spot, receiving both, and then approaching him later that day to ask for a blow job.

in basketball terminology this is known as a “heat check“. basically, you’re doing something seemingly outrageous to test the limits of how far your “hot” streak will go. in lebron’s case, it’s also a way of saying “i’m lebron f*cking james. i’m better at playing basketball than anyone on earth and any other alternate dimensions were basketball might be played. i can do whatever the f*ck i want.

this idea isn’t limited to basketball. from kanye’s 808′s and heartbreak and the ipad, to the entire career of ray j, pop culture is filled with popular artists heat-checking themselves, and erykah badu’s uber-controversial “window seat” vid is another example of that.

while many have lauded this as ultra-creative, paradigm shifting, envelope pushing, and iconoclastic, personally, i just think it’s her way of saying “i’m erykah f*cking badu. i have millions of die-hard fans, i single-handedly made a jersey-rocking rapper from atlanta start dressing like a drag-queen mannequin at an H&M fashion show, and i have a fat ass. i’m bored, i can do whatever the hell i want, and my fans will still love me. creative schmeative¹

2. the overwhelmingly positive response (and condescension towards those who disagree) to this vid is more proof that, in the “cultured” corner of the black community, the headwrap gets you a pass.

mind you, i’m not passing judgment on the artistic merit of the video, but there’s no doubt in my mind that the general sentiment would be much less supportive if keri hilson or nicky minaj or ciara or anyone else not named erykah badu or india.arie or jill scott pulled a similar stunt.

3. while beyonce usually serves as black america’s patron paragon of paradoxy, noone’s art paints a more seemingly contrasting picture between their persona and the actual person than erykah badu.

it’s almost like someone blindfolded her and had her aim at a dartboard of cliches to live by, but she happened to accidentally hit all of the ones that contradict (“sleep with a bunch of rappers”. “make great and empowering music”. “be a role model to black women everywhere”. “have multiple baby daddies”. “have a big butt”. “dress like queen amidala”)

4. meta-commentary aside, i loved the video. it officially ranks as my third favorite badu moment ever²

i loved the zapruder feel to it. i loved the stunned “this isn’t really happening, is it?” faces on the oblivious extras (especially the guy at the 2:00 mark who starts picking up her clothes and chasing her down, then all of a sudden has a change of heart). i loved how the video relates just enough to the song to inspire conversation over whether or not it actually does. i even loved the eerily fatalistic feel to her words at the end. most of all, i loved, well…

5. when erykah badu’s ass talks, everyone listens. and dies. helen keller’s favorite color is erykah badu’s ass. erykah badu’s ass can slam a revolving door. erykah badu’s ass did in fact, build rome in a day

i want to buy erykah badu’s ass a chicken dinner and never call it again. we need it. hell, i need it. i’m a mess without it. i miss it so damn much. i miss being with it, i miss being near it. i miss its laugh. i miss its scent; i miss its musk. in fact, when this all gets sorted out, erykah badu’s ass and i should probably get an apartment together.

6. seriously though, erykah badu’s figure is what every black man in america has in mind when thinking about “the foundation”³. to expound, the reason why some men only consider thinner women as potential wife candidates is because they hope that after a decade and a couple kids, she’ll be built like badu instead of a post-office mailbox. she has, what my uncle would call, a perfect three baby booty.

7. lastly, this video has cemented her status as the one woman i’d be hesitant to actually look in the eye. wait, hesitant isn’t strong enough. she scares the f*ck out of me…

…but for good reason.

¹if ultra cynical, one could also interpret the video as badu saying “look. i have three kids, and i haven’t released a platinum album since the first season of the sopranos. i need to do something to stay relevant because, sh*t, ms badu gotta eat too“. i’m not ultra cynical, though.
²the other two? 1. the “but you can’t use my phone” at the end of her live version of “tyrone”, and the audience reaction to it. 2. the “can you top this” battle her and jill scott have while performing “you got me” at the dave chappelle block party
³word to humble one

—the champ

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a contributing editor for EBONY.com. He resides in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes.

  • knightnick

    I cosign number 5.

    She went from currently irrelevant to the hottest thing out in a matter of 5 minutes. I know guys are going to buy her album simply because of this video.

    sidenote: what if she releases an uncensored version?

    • Officer Ricky

      @knightnick,

      Broad is still as irrelevant as me knowing the color of your socks. Give her a week or 2. Gone with the wind.

      She got an ass tho’! SHET!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @knightnick,

      sidenote: what if she releases an uncensored version?

      you know, this is one of those times when seeing “everything” would actually make things less alluring. some things dont need to be any more “uncut”

      • T.

        @The Champ,

        essentially what you’ve said is that Badu is the female equivalent to Prince (you can’t look her directly in the eye).

        or, that creature from the Golden Child behind the curtains.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @T.,

          basically. she makes the cut, as well as nicole kidman (she’s scary to me) and jim jones

    • http://rainbowlens.wordpress.com Gem…from Houston

      @knightnick, Apparently people in Canada and other places got the uncensored version.

      • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

        @Gem…from Houston,

        Hmm, so there is one. It makes sense Canada and other less pantiesinabunch countries get an uncensored version.

        I would seriously like to meet anyone who saw this happen in real time or who was actually in the video. lol

        • Sula

          @Cheekie,

          other less pantiesinabunch countries

          Classic! I am stealing. Thanxmuch. :)

        • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

          @Sula,

          LOL, no problem. It’s funny because it’s true.

    • JessKnowsBest

      @knightnick,

      her tummy is still amazingly flat given her booty and fittyleven kids.

  • Ms. Smart

    According to a bew report I saw, those weren’t extras, she had no permits to shoot, and the city is considering charging/fining her.

    • Ms. Smart

      @Ms. Smart, bew=news…typing on iPod

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Ms. Smart,

      According to a bew report I saw, those weren’t extras, she had no permits to shoot, and the city is considering charging/fining her

      i know. thats why i put “extras” in quotations.

      *or, at least i had extras in quotations before liz edited out. smh.*

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        @The Champ, wtf? I didn’t take no quotes off “extras.” I did take them off 808s and heartbreaks because you don’t quote and italicize album names. Don’t make me go down my list of stuff I fixed that did NOT include extras! extras deez.

        • charli skipper

          @Liz,

          yaaaaaaassss! i really identified with this comment for some reason.lol

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @Liz,

          go down your list of deez

  • http://bourgieinterrupted.com Kia, JD

    Yes to your top two Badu moments. This could be a post in and of itself.
    I appreciate EB more for her so-called contradictions. It makes me think of *gasp* a real person. From jump Ms. Wright has refused to let us put her in a box – not the neo-soul box, not the head-wrapped earth mother box, not the rapper baby momma box, nope. While she may hop from island to island she never gets comfy in any one spot long enough to be pigeon holed. I LOVE that.
    I said on FB earlier that EB is my spirit guide. So long as her music is speaking to me and she’s being that crazy, spiritual, homie/lover/friend I’m down.
    Oh, those in the know been peeped EB’s um, figure. While she doesn’t have to flaunt it all the time, who the hell is gonna tell a grown ass woman with three kids that she gotta cover up forever? Not me, not when she looks like that!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Kia, JD,

      who the hell is gonna tell a grown ass woman with three kids that she gotta cover up forever?

      her kids maybe? “mommy, put a bra on” seems like it would work

    • Sula

      @Kia, JD,

      I appreciate EB more for her so-called contradictions. It makes me think of *gasp* a real person.

      Exactly. When I go down the list of artists I truly heart, I realize that I like the ones that are human! The ones with quote -flaws-unquote… who also embrace their humanity and flaws. Those vulnerable artists make my heart flinch and talk to me through their music. And that is why EB and LH et al are some of my favorite-est performers ever…

      I guess (if I want to be deep now that I am a year older, ha!) I seek humanity in my fellow humans… Color head-wrapper extraordinaire… Although I prefer the term free-thinking flower child…He he he. :)

  • Gem of the Ocean

    flat lined @ ” i single-handedly made a jersey-rocking rapper from atlanta start dressing like a drag-queen mannequin at an H&M fashion show”

    regained life long enough to wave a hand in agreeance @ “the headwrap gets you a pass.

    but then died @ “in fact, when this all gets sorted out, erykah badu’s ass and i should probably get an apartment together.”

    wowers!!!! this post was ridiculously hilarious while simultaneously completely ON POINT!!! i cant believe it but i had almost exactly the same 5 reactions to this video. except, i dont want to move in with e.badu’s ass–i want to hijack it and keep it for myself. im not getting any younger, a 3-baby booty may be just what i need to snag “the one”

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Gem of the Ocean,

      except, i dont want to move in with e.badu’s ass–i want to hijack it and keep it for myself

      if you do that, you should definitely bring it to the next game night

      • Gem of the Ocean

        @The Champ,

        done. done. and done.

    • Beremore

      @Gem of the Ocean,

      “wowers!!!! this post was ridiculously hilarious while simultaneously completely ON POINT!!! i cant believe it but i had almost exactly the same 5 reactions to this video. except, i dont want to move in with e.badu’s ass–i want to hijack it and keep it for myself…”

      CO-SIIIIIIIGGGGGGGNNNNN! This said it all…

      Champ….good sh*t :) oh and extra co-sign on the #2 footnote, that block party performance is HARD!

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        @Beremore,

        Champ….good sh*t :) oh and extra co-sign on the #2 footnote, that block party performance is HARD!

        i wonder where the block party concert ranks on the list of “live performances people would give their first-born’s first shoes to see”? it’s definitely top five for me

        • Beremore

          @The Champ,

          “live performances people would give their first-born’s first shoes to see”<— LOL exactly!!

          For sure top 5, that concert was Classic!

    • Ivy St.

      @Gem of the Ocean,
      “i want to hijack it and keep it for myself…”
      I cosign. When I saw the video and saw the response of the man watching the video with me I thought, if I had an a$$ like that, I could say so long to grad schools because my bills would be PAID.

      Gem, if u do happen to hijack it, share. She has enough for all of us.

    • OftenConfused

      @Gem of the Ocean,

      except, i dont want to move in with e.badu’s ass–i want to hijack it and keep it for myself. im not getting any younger, a 3-baby booty may be just what i need to snag “the one”

      100% cosign I’d share though, I think that’s too much booty to handle

    • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

      @Gem of the Ocean,

      ” i single-handedly made a jersey-rocking rapper from atlanta start dressing like a drag-queen mannequin at an H&M fashion show”

      Yeah, that killed me. But what killed me DEAD is that pic of Andre at the end. I had to stifle myself because I was reading this on a train full of Irish Catholics and they just wouldn’t understand.

  • jana.love

    i swear i love her and have the biggest girl crush on the chick.

    and i’m not gonna even front, i saw the vid and hit the gym, shawwty got a fatty.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @jana.love,

      and i’m not gonna even front, i saw the vid and hit the gym

      me too. but, by “hit” i meant “beat” and by “the gym” i meant “my meat”

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        @The Champ, gross.

        • Gem of the Ocean

          @Liz,

          lmao yes, gross indeed.

      • charli skipper

        @The Champ,

        uh uh.

      • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

        @The Champ,

        *does a couple of hail marys*

      • Keisha Brown

        @The Champ,

        ewwww….tmi…
        lol.

    • Sula

      @jana.love,

      You and I are >< here…. I was breathing extra hard on my abdominals this week! Gotta get that tight, tight stomach!!!

    • StrawberryPoptarts

      @jana.love,

      honey, squats and lunges were on deck im-me-di-ate-ly. operation #windowseat… oh leh do it..!

  • http://shay-d-lady.com shay-d-lady

    can I just say He-ll to the yes on the first several points.

    1 I love the video but for real its shock value! the statement doesnt match the song and even if the video does make an interesting statement about group think; Group think is the reason its hot right now.the whole situation provides an interesting paradox much like badu herself. If you use nudity in an artsy way and then use the artsy nudity as shock value to generate buzz for you new single and album that to this point have nothing to do with the statement of the video.. does that make you revolutionary or basically a beyonce?
    and by beyonce i mean a person that is not changing the game as much as playing it better than anyone else?
    Badu is basically the beyonce of the headwrap crowd.
    but I love her and her ballsy ness and the video.. or rather assyness…and her overall badass im doing me vibe. so
    the song?
    eh
    its aight

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @shay-d-lady,

      but I love her and her ballsy ness and the video.. or rather assyness

      i’m definitely adding “assyness” to the champs daily lexicon

      • charli skipper

        @The Champ,

        chile, me and my momma been saying “assyness” for years. where YOU been?

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @charli skipper,

          obviously not chillin on the couch with you and your mom. you usually ask me to just stay in the bedroom

    • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

      @shay-d-lady,
      “I love her and her ballsy ness and the video.. or rather assyness…and her overall badass im doing me vibe.”

      Are you saying you love her ass or the fact that she had the courage to do this? If it’s the latter, do you love the courage that other women have when they shed their clothes on camera in public? Or just Badu?

      • Miss Patterson

        @Monk, I want to speak on this. I don’t put Badu’s nudity and say girl #43 from the tip drill video in the same category. I think it’s because I know that she was in control of her image, rather than a director’s vision that correlated with an idea and/or lyrics that objectified her and took her nudity to a gratuitous and pornographic level. (i.e. when i can count the number of folds in a woman’s labia during a video’s dance sequence) And even if one were to argue that girl #43 knew what she was getting into when she signed the Lap Dance/P*ssy Poppin/Right Thur video contract it always leaves me feeling a little cheap and dirty for them. They’re not making a statement, they’re not even making a pseudo-artistic statement, they’re just bodies being used like burners. I felt more empowered by Badu’s nudity, sort of like I did with Madonna’s in the early 90s. Matter of fact, where’s my 8mm camera…I’m gonna make me home video in the Burgh. Wylie Avenue, here I come!

        • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

          @Miss Patterson,

          Seems like you’re painting women who appear in videos with very broad stroke and generalization. In reference to the “Tip Drill”‘s and similar “un-cut” style videos, those are exotic dancers or strippers. That’s something totally different from a model playing a role in a video or just dancing in a video. Let’s not confuse that.

          I still see a huge double-standard and contradiction in saying that something’s wrong with a woman dressed in club attire or even a bathing suit willingly dancing or posing in front of a car (no one makes you do it) on a closed set, but it’s perfectly fine for another woman to strip butt-booty naked and prance down the street in front of an unsuspecting public with children and everyone else being unwillingly, unknowingly exposed to public indecency. You know what Erykah is about so you can draw the conclusions on why she did it. One can only assume why each individual video model does it…and believe me, the reasons vary.

        • Miss Patterson

          @Monk, make no mistake I am speaking strictly about the uncut naked video exotic dancers & strippers when I made the comparison in my earlier comment. And I have a very negative visceral reaction to those that videos in particular that is hard to articulate without generalizing. As for the highly stylized video models that you see in a video like “the whisper song”, my response is very different. No soap box there, I’m just jealous-lol. Hey, at least I’m being honest :) I just wanted to be clear that my earlier comment was comparing nudity to nudity. Rather than short dresses to Erykah’s donk.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          I still see a huge double-standard and contradiction in saying that something’s wrong with a woman dressed in club attire or even a bathing suit willingly dancing or posing in front of a car (no one makes you do it) on a closed set, but it’s perfectly fine for another woman to strip butt-booty naked and prance down the street in front of an unsuspecting public with children and everyone else being unwillingly, unknowingly exposed to public indecency.

          things that make you go hmmmmm and shit

      • http://www.shay-d-lady.com shay-d-lady

        @Monk, I give it up to any woman or man that’s about doin them!
        I more sop applaud erykah for being comfortable enough with herslef to be
        Butt naked and makeupless with no airbrush. It showsa comfort with yourself on a whole
        Other level!

        • http://tkresia.blogspot.com T

          @shay-d-lady, I more sop applaud erykah for being comfortable enough with herslef to be
          Butt naked and makeupless with no airbrush. It showsa comfort with yourself on a whole
          Other level!

          Co-sign!

        • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

          @shay-d-lady,

          Gotchu.

        • Keisha Brown

          @shay-d-lady,

          *co-signery

      • Sula

        @Monk,

        I have argued this and will argue it again… I don’t even think Badu’s video is $exual… It actually has quite an a-$exual feel to it… You are forced to think $ex because well, that a$$ can not be ignored… but ultimately, it doesn’t even come off as chexy if you remove the arse… Same thing as the video who originated hers. Matt and Kim’s…. It wasn’t chexy at all… but if it was starring Scarlett Johannson, of course because of her curves it would have had a certain chexual subtext to it…

        And I believe that’s the dichotomy or rather interesting-ness of this video. Had it been performed by anybody else but EB, it wouldn’t have produced parallells with Video girls etc… but because her physique is the typical video girl’s physique… the comparisons cannot not be made…

        • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

          @Sula,

          “It actually has quite an a-$exual feel to it”

          I agree. And I believe it’s what she was aiming for. She didn’t glam herself up or anything. Sure, she can’t help if folks find it sexy regardless (because hey, makeup-less and non-glammed women CAN be chexy), but I think she executed the asexual-ness very well.

        • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

          @Sula,

          I never said it was a sexual video and whether it’s sexual or a-sexual is of no consequence.

  • MzKang

    Badu said on twitter that it was unplanned, no warning, no crew, 1 take, done in 2 minutes, and then she ran like hell.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @MzKang,

      it was unplanned, no warning, no crew, 1 take, done in 2 minutes, and then she ran like hell.

      replace “she” with “he” and this sounds like the first time i had sex

      • Gem of the Ocean

        @The Champ,

        *dying*

      • MzKang

        @The Champ,

        LMBO!

      • MzPW

        @The Champ,

        (snickering quietly while at work)….ha, ha….oh yeah, ha!

      • Made In Hawaii

        @The Champ,

        *smh* :)

      • Smiley Face

        @The Champ,

        *blinks*

      • TiP

        @The Champ,

        That was funny as hell!!!!

        I think i wanna have yo baby…..

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        @The Champ,

        surprised that noone caught on to the fact that by substituting “he” for “she”, it makes it sound like i had sex with a man. i definitely need to hire a copy-editor

        • Miss Patterson

          @The Champ, I caught it, but I didn’t want to be judgmental about your first time. ;)

      • Sula

        @The Champ,

        That TMI was funny as hell. :)

    • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

      @MzKang,

      “Badu said on twitter that it was unplanned, no warning, no crew, 1 take, done in 2 minutes, and then she ran like hell.”

      I wonder how long she remained lying on the ground? I find it hilarious when imagining that she lied their in the exact time it took for the video, then when the director yelled, “Cut!”, she got up and Speedy Gonzalesed her tail outta that joint.

      And Champ (Cole), you stoopid.

  • http://keepthechangeanonymous.blogspot.com/ Tenchi

    There shall be folk tales of folk tales of folk tales, regarding Erykah B. and this video in particular. (The latest of which is a response to her disrobing while “da babies” are present…yeah, a green screen is being reported.)
    I can say a couple of things to this:
    If her baby’s daddies had been Tone Loc, (some one from) Crucial Conflict or 9thWonder (sorry…too soon?!)…nobody would bring her babies into this.

    If she had not donned the boy shorts…we’d still know (and drool or swoon appropriately)….but we did it MORESO watchin’ those cheeks twitch in the Dallas sunshine semi clad and laced.

    If her meat pillows were bigger…this would be porn (no Anna Nicole).

    Seen on a dude (namely Usher’s untalented arse) that pelvic crease is EXTRA CHEXY!!! (…ummm, if you’re a heterogirl).

    Look, I enjoyed the vid. It’s E being E and if she didn’t eventually step it up…she’d be Sade (praying that the music carried her through for every one else…not just me.)

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Tenchi,

      If her baby’s daddies had been Tone Loc, (some one from) Crucial Conflict or 9thWonder (sorry…too soon?!)…nobody would bring her babies into this.

      lol, if this was true, it would be like baxter the dog eating the entire wheel of cheese. more impressive than anything else

      • http://uphereoncloud9.wordpress.com Wuyoung Agent of M.E.

        @The Champ,
        “9thWonder (sorry…too soon?!)…”
        Are you channeling Phonte today?

  • P.

    Man, muthaf*ck the people who pull down videos on Youtube, keeping ninjas like me who get on the internet like twice a day and thus miss out on Erykah Badu videos and sh*t in the dark.

    • http://lizburr.com Liz

      @P., just go to http://www.erykahbadu.com/ and click on the purple ankh. you’ll see it on a bigger screen.

  • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

    First off, I love Erykah Badu and I really LOVE her music.

    Now that I got that out the way, that video is hot friggin’ garbage. Trash. Rummage. This is coming from a man who loves a$$ and bitties as much as the next red-blooded dude, but the shyt’s just WACK. As you’ve stated (and I have in million conversations this week), the ONLY reason people like it is because it’s Erykah…and they like Erykah. It’s like Ms. Badu has casted her voodoo over the masses and now they’re all falling into “groupthink” theirselves.

    From a technical standpoint, it’s overexposed, it’s poorly shot, there’s a lot of out of focus moments, and it basically looks like a film school flunkee demo reel circa 1986.

    It’s not as “deep” as people wanna make it out to be. It’s just not. It comes across to me as she’s TRYING to be deep which isn’t authentic. And yes, I do “get” what she’s saying, but the video is not creative or artistic at all…actually, it’s juvenile and basic. C’mon, how much creativity goes into, “We’re just gonna shoot it gurerilla-style and I’m gonna walk down the street, strip, and get shot. I’ll have a message at the end and it will trip muafuggas out.” Ding! Sorry, you don’t get credit for that.

    I’ve heard people say everything from the nudity is “tasteful” and “artistic” to some women just wanting a body like hers. What’s tasteful about indecently, publicly exposing oneself to an unsuspecting public in a major metropolis where there are people’s kids out there?

    Regardless, a video model can be connected to sleeping with a rapper and she’s instantly branded a hoe, but let it be someone whom you love such as Erykah who in many ways can be looked at as a rapper groupie herself (does it make it better that she let the rappers raw her, bust in her, and have kids with them?), and then people wanna change the rules and say it doesn’t apply to HER. GTFOHWTBS!

    I guess I say all that to say, people tend to look at things differently if it’s someone that they like, but if they like or care for the individual, they’re quick to rip them to shreds.

    • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

      @Monk,
      *correction*
      “but if they DON’T like or care for the individual, they’re quick to rip them to shreds.”

    • http://lizburr.com Liz

      @Monk,

      From a technical standpoint, it’s overexposed, it’s poorly shot, there’s a lot of out of focus moments, and it basically looks like a film school flunkee demo reel circa 1986.

      All of this was clearly deliberate, not just somebody not knowing how to film lol. The look is supposed to be a throwback to JFKs assassination, hence the location and the opening. I expect the blurryness is also due trying to work around the fact that they didn’t get anybody to sign any releases to “be in the video.”

      • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

        @Liz,

        I get that. Still wack in its execution.

      • Sula

        @Liz,

        I was about to write just that. Took the words right out of my mouth. :)

    • Gem of the Ocean

      @Monk,

      It’s like Ms. Badu has casted her voodoo over the masses and now they’re all falling into “groupthink” theirselves.

      i said a very similar thing the other day!!! goomh

      (does it make it better that she let the rappers raw her, bust in her, and have kids with them?), and then people wanna change the rules and say it doesn’t apply to HER. GTFOHWTBS!

      i have said this in my circles on more than one occasion!! again, goomh!!!!

      while i wouldnt say the vid was straight whack, i do agree its not very impressive. i think its art, though. but i also think gucci mane’s “lemonade” vid is art. i LOVE the yellow black and white. hate the f*cking song tho, but i digress… i do see where badu was going with the vid and while it may be distasteful to disrobe in front of children in some circles, why must nudity in a non-sexual form (she was just walkin! not her fault that booty was clappin) be labeled distasteful? kids see their parents naked all the time (or is that just in white families?). nudity shouldnt be shunned. vulgarity is the bigger issue when kids are involved, imho. but thats a convo for another time…

      all that to say, i appreciate hearing a fellow badu fan give the vid a negative review. i havent heard ONE since it came out. the closest was 2 friends saying “i just dont get it”.

      • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

        @Gem of the Ocean,

        Is the video obscene as in possessing no artistic value? Of course not. I agree, it is “art”. In my opinion (and I fairly assume yours), it’s just not good art. Art is subjective so to each his/her own.

        I actually do think “Lemonade” is a better video…and I like the song…well, at least the beat and the chorus.

      • Smiley Face

        @Gem of the Ocean,

        “kids see their parents naked all the time (or is that just in white families?)”

        Nope, in my fam it’s the norm to let it all hang out, lol

        • Sula

          @Smiley Face,

          In my fam it’s the norm as well…

          (no wonder I turned out “white girl crazy”, uh? :lol:)

      • Caballeroso (resident nudist)

        @Gem of the Ocean,
        “why must nudity in a non-sexual form (she was just walkin!) be labeled distasteful?”
        Thank you Gem for succinctly writing what I wanted to say, but would have written an entire essay to express. People seem to be so “faux puritan” when it comes to nudity. It amazes me how we are all born nude, but all of a sudden we’ve just GOT to cover up. When it all boils down, we essentially all appear generally the same in the nude, have generally the same parts (just in different proportions and it really is not THAT big of a deal. If God wanted me to be covered I would have been born with fur! As far as the kids go, exposure to something mitigates curiosity. How many kids would hide somewhere saying “I’ll show you mine if you show me yours” if it were something they saw all the time? Are they really going to be damaged because they saw a booby or a penis or a badonkadonk? If you are there to educate your child and answer the questions in a suitable manner, what gives? On the news last night they alluded that the mother of the child who got an eye full wants to sue. Give me a f*ckin break people. Get a job and a life and stop with the get-rich-quick schemes! *climbing down from soapbox – allowing blood pressure to normalize*

        • Sula

          @Caballeroso (resident nudist),

          People seem to be so “faux puritan” when it comes to nudity

          Ok, I am so stealing faux puritan!

          American puritanism boggles my mind at times… it really does.

          A nude body is just that a NUDE body!!! It’s just the sum of titties, arse and everything in between… It’s all over the place, everybody has one and it’s not something nobody has never seen… Everybody has seen one of those at some point!

          I just don’t get why people in general are so gung-ho about the whole nudity thing… Nudity is freedom, y’all… Embrace it! :)

        • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

          @Caballeroso (resident nudist),

          @Caballeroso (resident nudist),

          I’m trying to understand your argument. Are you saying that since we weren’t born with clothes, we shouldn’t wear them? Should we all just take it back to the days of before loin cloths and just carry on our day to day activities in the raw? Do you wish for yourself and everyone else to sit on filthy, germ infested seats on the bus or train with their kitty cats and wangs exposed to all types of germs and diseases? Me personally, I don’t like the feel and don’t find it in the least bit liberating to walk through the concrete jungle without my shoes and socks off let alone other parts that clothes protect. My body is a temple and shyt.

          I don’t think nudity in itself is necessarily distasteful, but when you expose someone else’s child to something before their parent has a choice to do so, I do find poor taste in that. Just because one is an adult and wants to feel liberted and free, does that really justify them smoking crack or weed around someone else’s 4-yr.-old…IN PUBLIC?? You can’t tell me that there shouldn’t be a level of social responsibility there.

    • Officer Ricky

      @Monk,

      Now that I got that out the way, that video is hot friggin’ garbage. Trash. Rummage. This is coming from a man who loves a$$ and bitties as much as the next red-blooded dude, but the shyt’s just WACK.

      Amen. I just seent the video last night. I do not understand the hoopla surrounding it. In fact, I was honestly disappointed. I know I got cheap thrills but gadamn that was straight up f*ckery. Wat the hell is going on people? Ranting and raving over this?

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Monk,

      you know monk, the next time you leave a comment, you should tell us how you really feel instead of holding back so much

    • Miss Patterson

      @Monk, “It’s not as “deep” as people wanna make it out to be. It’s just not. It comes across to me as she’s TRYING to be deep which isn’t authentic.”

      I totally get what your saying, Monk. I encountered this all the time as a student of writing while discussing critically acclaimed authors, whose apparent “genius” was completely unabsorbed by me. For example, Roberto Bolaño who wrote an entire novel without any paragraph breaks. But guess who thought it was brilliant? Yep, every fiction major except for me. (do you know how many red marks and exasperated sighs I’d get if I had ever handed in a short story like that?) This is what I call artistic license that loses the connection between the artist and the receiver for the sake of being different. So, I totally get what you’re saying, and I respect it. But, I think that in this case there are a few layers of interpretation. And I’ve experienced all of them –from your reaction to Gem’s to finally appreciating it for reasons that I don’t even think Badu has considered. But again, I’m more a fan of the song than I am the actual video. (as evidenced by my essay below).

      • http://www.unepetitefillenoire.blogspot.com KayBeezy

        @Miss Patterson
        Ooooh! I feel you on ol’ boy Bolaño. I like his works (especially Savage Detectives)but I hate when people hype up an author and if you happen to think he or she isn’t the messiah people get mad.

      • http://www.shesoflyy.blogspot.com Muze

        @Miss Patterson,

        amen!!! omg some of these authors i have to suffer through… it’s like, really?

        i’m going to smear some mustard and ketchup on my page and write “red is yellow. we glow orange. we evolve. we eat. we die.” on my next essay and i BET NOT get anything less than a 93.5%.

      • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

        @Miss Patterson,

        I totally feel you. Basically, with any form of art, the interpretation is going to be up to the interpreter. And if one reads deep enough into anything, they can interpret it to be whatever they want it to be.

        I just think with the monologue at the end and because it’s w”Erykah Badu”, people are more willing to make something out of it as oppose to any other non-headwrap-wearingartist’s video.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        @Miss Patterson,

        that novel cant be any worse than “tender buttons”, the gertrude stein authored piece of devil donkey shit i was forced to read in college.

        • Miss Patterson

          @The Champ, Don’t even get me started on Stein. One day, I’ll “get” that too.

        • legitimate_soul

          @The Champ,

          Well since we are admitting things: I don’t think “The Great Gatsby” was so hot and I hated “Waiting For Godot”.

          *dodging tomato*

    • http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=518998&id=1395282740 CNotes

      @Monk,

      I too am a Badu fan who says “hell no” to this video.

      “What’s tasteful about indecently, publicly exposing oneself to an unsuspecting public in a major metropolis where there are people’s kids out there?”

      Her so called “Groupthink” message was overshadowed (in my mind) by the fact that she decided to take away a parent’s choice on what to expose their children to. *SMH*

      “Regardless, a video model can be connected to sleeping with a rapper and she’s instantly branded a hoe, but let it be someone whom you love such as Erykah who in many ways can be looked at as a rapper groupie herself (does it make it better that she let the rappers raw her, bust in her, and have kids with them?), and then people wanna change the rules and say it doesn’t apply to HER. GTFOHWTBS!”

      *Major Cosignage* I couldn’t have said it any better.

    • Ivy St.

      @Monk,
      “I guess I say all that to say, people tend to look at things differently if it’s someone that they like, but if they like or care for the individual, they’re quick to rip them to shreds.”

      My dad says this all the time… wait…

    • http://www.shay-d-lady.com shay-d-lady

      @Monk, I gotta slow clap it up for this statement.
      While I do like the video it aint all that deep but I like the statement. The simplicity
      Of how it was shot kind of goes along with the “real freedom” message. That aside
      But it aint the new coming of jesus.
      I also totally agree that we give pseudo deep artists a free pass hence the whole
      Hip hop is dead argument but that’s another post for another day
      But again aside from the fact that I still like the vid. I. Love this statement like champ
      Loves e. Badu’s ass!

    • http://tkresia.blogspot.com T

      @Monk, “I guess I say all that to say, people tend to look at things differently if it’s someone that they like, but if they like or care for the individual, they’re quick to rip them to shreds.”

      As much as I don’t want to, I have to co-sign this even though I’m a hardcore fan of Queen Badu. You made a real good point. I myself looked at this video and automatically was feeling it just because it was Badu. If it had been Beyonce, I would have tored it up. Maybe that’s another “groupthink” that she used to her advantage…

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        @T,

        Maybe that’s another “groupthink” that she used to her advantage

        sounds like you made eye contact with her too

    • Sula

      @Monk,

      Regardless, a video model can be connected to sleeping with a rapper and she’s instantly branded a hoe

      See this is not exactly true. The (true) EB lovers that I know (like moi) don’t get their panties in a bunch if a video dancer prances around naked or is connected to a rapper $exually… I am actually really weary of the word “hoe” for instance… We had a movement here on VSB where we reclaimed our “Hoe-Ness”… at least I did.

      I have always said that I actually quite admire Karine Steffans for her ballsyness and business acumen…

      So no, not every EB lover is quick to call other video models “hoes”… we might not be the majority but we do exist… (where is VEG when you need her!!! :lol:)…