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It’s A Low Down Dirty Shame What Remy Ma Did To That Nicki Girl From Queens

When I heard direct shots cast at Remy Ma on Gucci Mane & Nicki’s reconciliatory collab “Make Love”, three words immediately came to mind: are you dumb?

Apparently Remy felt similarly – and on Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 1:03 PM  EST, one Onika Tanya Maraj got her entire life snatched in just under 7 minutes by the Queen of Castle Hill, Reminisce Mackie, in a comprehensive takedown that was the result of a decade of tension by arguably two of the most visible female rappers today.

My love for Remy is no secret. I’ve stanned for her since she came on the scene on Big Pun’s Yeah Baby with the underrated track “Ms. Martin“, and followed that up in the same year with the “Ante Up Remix” – a song that is permanently on my gym playlist (as is the “Girlfight” remix). I still toe whop  to “Whuteva” when the mood strikes. Just a couple months ago, I flawlessly performed the seminal classic “Conceited” during a lipsync/karaoke challenge.

I was verklempt when she was sentenced to 8 years for exacting street justice against a girlfriend who robbed her, and still wonder what would have been her career trajectory if she hadn’t been robbed of her momentum on the heels of two hit singles. I’m sure this is something Nicki wonders as well – when Remy went in to do her bid, the two were publicly squabbling over what Remy perceived to be a shot at her on a freestyle.

As the years passed, it seemed that both women had decided to leave their bygones behind with their curly weave/straight bang pack hair combo and remain cordial. Nicki catapulted to superstardom, going from recording freestyles on project staircases to becoming a pop crossover sensation in the houses of high school fans everywhere – bye bye, “Beam Me Up Scotty”, hello “Super Bass”. And while Remy’s music upon her initial release had a few false starts (me and maybe 4 other people listened to her I’m Around mixtape), she eventually hit her second wind, recording the Grammy-nominated “All the Way Up” (with Jay on the remix), appearing on the West Coast leg on the Formation Tour to  extremely positive receptions, and branding her and her husband as debatably the strongest example of Black Love on Reality TV (as opposed to Yandy Smith’s ‘non-marriage’ to an adulterous felon).

By all indications, the two rappers now exist in different lanes, serve separate fanbases, and should coexist without issue save for the occasional sub (which I frankly don’t mind, if it keeps both women a bit competitive). It’s this fact that makes it all the more befuddling that Nicki took it upon herself to launch the first grenade:

“You the queen of this here?/One platinum plaque, album flopped, bitch, where? /Hahaha, ahhhhh/I took two bars off just to laugh/You see, silly rabbit, to be the queen of rap/You gotta sell records, you gotta get plaques/S, plural like the S on my chest/Now sit your dumbass down, you got an F on your test”

Listen to the song for yourself. It’s largely a middling verse. I mean, she rhymes “Nas” with “nahs” and “knives”. And she took two bars off just to laugh, which might be the most laughable way to create filler since Wayne had that three year stretch of correcting himself after mispronouncing words (go to Google and type “Wayne” and “oops I meant”). I would think that if you were going to declare war against a woman who shot her friend twice in the stomach, you would come with a tighter assault than that, but as they say, hindsight is 20/20.

Less than 48 hours later, Remy got on wax and addressed in no particular order: Nicki’s butt shots, using ghostwriters, switching from crew to crew to get on, her 360 deal and inflated sales, her deflated buttshots, her previous proclaimed fandom of Remy, stealing Remy’s lines, abandoning Safaree, general disloyalty, her pedophile brother, her fake goon status, alleged drug use, stunts on Mariah, Taylor, and Miley, selling a dangerous body image, instigating beef between Meek  and Drake, Foxy Brown’s hearing loss, her stupid ass chicken wing necklace, and flipped the Back to Back cadence to dismiss Nicki’s internet antics.

In short, it was the most comprehensive diss I’ve heard since “Takeover.” Every time I run the track back (I’m easily on twentysomething listens) I hear something new. I fully expect to discover some other rumor that Meek leaked to Remy that I was too busy screaming aloud to notice on my next play.

When it comes to disses, two things matter: content and punchline delivery. Remy hit on both. Take “Nas” and “nahs” or the “S” in plaques and compare it to this:

I’m sayin’, how you mix Nicki with a Minaj?/I’ma park this bitch, put Nicki in the garage/I’m gettin’ money like Nicky Barnes, I’m the big homie/I responded in less than 48 Hours; Nick Nolte/Gettin’ close like Nick Jonas, grippin’ the gauge/Then blaze off, Face Off, bitch, Nicolas Cage/You animated like Nickelodeon, you fake, bitch/Only the kids believe in you; you St. Nick/Now when I shoot Nick at Nite, they won’t understand it/I’m Wild’n Out, ’bout to hit Nick with the Cannon

Or this:

And stop talkin’ numbers, you signed a 360 deal through Young Money, through Cash Money, through Republic/Which means your money go through five niggas before you touch it/Any videos, promotions come out of your budget/Endorsements, tour and merchandise, they finger-fuck it/You make, like, 35 cents off of each ducat/I own my masters, bitch, independent/So for every sale I do, you gotta do like ten/Stop comparin’ yourself to Jay, you not like him/You a motherfuckin’ worker, not a boss like Rem

….nigga MY feelings are hurt and I didn’t even do nothing to Remy. Whew.

As of writing this, we have yet to get an official response from Nicki Minaj, short of a few deleted tweets to Trey Songz and mentions of album sales that Remy already addressed. It’s safe to say that Onika was served a very sizable L-shaped two-piece, no biscuit; and frankly, while Nicki has certainly had a more successful career than Remy, I don’t think there has ever been a point where she could outrap her, so I am not especially hype for any significant come back that Nickelodeon could deliver. Everyone has their day and Nick Nolte was handed hers.

In the grand scheme of things, this is unlikely to hit St. Nick that hard – at this point, her staple fan base isn’t one that cut their teeth in the late 90s/early aughts era of rap that would have a diss of this magnitude make or break your career, and her crossover content will largely be unaffected. However, this is a major win for Remy, who has struggled to reconcile the rap game she left with the one that she is now walking into. She managed to dominate an entire weekend by leveraging the grit she has always had against a competitor who for the last several years has claimed the top spot nearly by default; in an industry that has the attention span of a hummingbird, she managed to flip the Aubrey-style internet stunt culture on its head by refocusing the debate to content and skill as opposed to retweets, let us and Nicki know in her own words, “don’t ever in your life fucking play with me.” That is no easy feat, and I can only hope to see her capitalize on this momentum in a way that she wasn’t able to a decade ago.

RIP Rap Nicki Minaj. Long live Queen Remy. Buy “Shether” on Itunes.

Shamira Ibrahim

Shamira is a twentysomething New Yorker who likes all things Dipset. You can join her in waxing poetically about chicken, Cam'ron, and gentrification (gotta have some balance) under the influence of varying amounts of brown liquor at her semi-monthly blog, shamspam.tumblr.com

  • Brooklyn_Bruin

    ” However, this is a major win for Remy, who has struggled to reconcile the rap game she left with the one that she is now walking into.”

    So true.

    • Jennifer

      8 years is a long time to be out of any industry.

      • miss t-lee

        It’s like a lifetime.

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          2 in hip hop

          • miss t-lee

            Agreed.

      • I marvel at the fact that Gucci stayed hot considering his various unfortunate incarcerations.

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          Agreed. He honestly sounds a bit dated cause folks ran his style into the ground

          • Gucci always picked good beats which helped his case. The molly in the bu** crowd in ATL took a great deal of his heat.

            • HouseOfBonnets

              In addition he stayed relevant even in jail.

            • Brooklyn_Bruin

              I actually think Gucci is quite clever, like a more subdued Young Dro. I just don’t think that his main fans really go for that type of thing.

              Cause I have no where to chop game on hip hop, the old rappers of the 80’s/90’s participated in the rest of American culture. The references and allusions like grey poupon only land because black folks also participate in mainstream culture. And that, expressed via northern mc’s reflects the level of integration between us and the rest.

              Let’s say hip hop then was 33% majority, and the rest was split among the various flavors of black.

              When hip hop went southern, went ignorant for some, – the South is far less integrated culturally than the rest of the country – the split changed.

              75 southern black American, and everything else. Far less of the Kings English and no Dungeons and Dragons references (word to Busta)

              Instead, the community reached deeper in to the parlance between each other. Not just the words, but the conception, the logic of living next to the beast. Touching on essential black Americaness, and dealing with those themes.

              A lot of the southern word smiths have this much greater respect for internally generated vocabulary.

              There is no point in reading the dictionary to step up your vocab – because the trade of words is all oral. By the time it hits “urban dictionary” it’s dead.

              • MsSula

                I really like your commentary. Spot on.

              • I love this post. I’m BK all day I have to agree.

                • Brooklyn_Bruin

                  Our folks don’t respect the rap game enough. They always want to talk about hip hop in they terms. Gramsci, Foucault, Goethe, and Akhenaton…

                  Let me get off this high horse before somebody throws a PhD at me

        • People left that space for him.

  • Brother Mouzone

    I suddenly have an urge to go to Popeye’s and order a 3 piece spicy white with red beans and rice…extra biscuits.

    • Jennifer

      Suddenly? Or, every Monday?

      • Brother Mouzone

        SHHHHH… my wife thinks I’m off that Popeye’s narcotic.

        • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

          Was on Crenshaw yesterday and came so close to busting a U to grab some.

  • “be wary of any man [MC] who keeps a pig farm.”

    Some people you don’t pick a fight with.

    • miss t-lee

      Sure don’t.
      Chicken farm either.

  • LongtimeLurker

    So, any bets on if Nicki responds to Remy by going over “Takeover”? LOL. I hope Meek mill is taking notes on how to properly respond to a diss…but um, yeah, Nicki is going to eat her alive whenever she decides to respond. Seeing as that she has Lil Kim pushing albums on PayPal when she came for her, I’d like to hear what she does to retire Remy, too, LOL

    • Bah Debo

      Think so huh??

      I don’t have that confidence is Miss Minaj. Her overall lyricism has been lacking since the young money train lost some steam… And I don’t think it’s coming back

      • Brother Mouzone

        If Nicki comes back with a LL on Cannibus type of diss, she will officially be crowned baddest femcee in history.

        • Bah Debo

          Yeah…. But I might bet money THAT ain’t happening

    • No Google

      “Nicki is going to eat her alive whenever she decides to respond.”

      LOL

  • TJ

    What I appreciate most about this diss record is that there’s nothing in Nicki’s rebuttal, which I highly doubt will happen, that Remy didn’t already address in shETHER. Nicki can’t clown Remy for anything, because Remy is like, “Yeah. I’m on Love and Hip Hop. And? I said that already at the 6:30 mark.”

    Hopefully, this diss will light a fire under Nicki’s behind, which is probably flammable, to do better with her tracks and verses moving forward. Nicki is better than these KNAHVES.

    You’re right, Nicki’s fan are studying for social studies quizzes. They’re like 12, the universal age for all youths.

    My money touches the federal government before it gets to me, so who am I?!?!

    • Madam CJ_Skywalker

      Yes, however I think Nicki can win in the court of public opinion.
      All she gotta do is get a beat that will kill in the club.
      Make the hook hella catchy for the summer
      Make it super palatable for her fans to gas up,
      and throw in mad punch lines.
      Even if Remy has already mentioned in in shETHER, the fact that the Barbs go hella hard for Nicki and her style of delivery may save her.

      • TJ

        Very true, but in the court of people who don’t have social studies tests in the morning…Nicki has missed the window for an effective diss. Lol.

        • Madam CJ_Skywalker

          Lmao. Sadly I agree.
          But since y’all dragged me into this, Imma get a record outta Nicki one way or another.

          Nicki, please call Mike Will Made It!

      • miss t-lee

        If It ain’t out by the end of the business day folks ain’t gonna care.

        • Madam CJ_Skywalker

          I think they will still care cause we love drama and shenanigans….
          It just won’t be held in as high of regards

          • miss t-lee

            The window for diss tracks is very small. Especially in these days where you can record your stuff and get it out to the masses much quicker than before.

            • Another Man’s Rhubarb

              yep.

        • Bah Debo

          I think she has until the end of the week until it goes to Meek levels of shame… But every day up to then it gets closer and closer…

          • miss t-lee

            The Shane is already creeping.

          • TheUnsungStoryteller

            Give Nicki room to grieve and cry.

      • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

        Maybe..i’m not sure anything subliminal will work here.

      • No Google

        All she gotta do is get a beat that will kill in the club.
        Make the hook hella catchy for the summer
        Make it super palatable for her fans to gas up,
        and throw in mad punch lines.

        The Drake formula.

    • Michelle is my First Lady
    • Brother Mouzone

      *Hopefully, this diss will light a fire under Nicki’s behind, which is probably flammable……………………………………………………………………………..

      ………………………………………..
      You wrong for that gluteal shade…lol

    • TheUnsungStoryteller

      “which is probably flammable” and her “fans are studying for social studies quizzes”… are two lines that should’ve made it on Shether. Do you have personal connections with Remy?

  • Annalise Keating

    I love Remy but this diss record was kind of lame.
    First the copying the style of Ether was well…unoriginal and uninspiring.
    The attacks were kind of childish:…. you have a bu## implant, you’ve had chex with many men in the industry, and I have a better record deal than you do.???? Really….this is the best she could do? I guess in many ways it was like ether: jay took measured but very effective blows at nas and mob deep with takeover and nas came back with insinuations that jay was gay (which though I love nas would have to say is kind of lame as far as insults go).

    • TJ

      I will admit that the production was rushed and lazy, but Remy had herself a deadline! Lol.

    • JulianWithTheRedCorvette

      99% of diss songs are just pettiness, cheap shots and homophobic slurs. I don’t know why anyone bothers.

      • It’s the school yard with a bigger audience.

        • JulianWithTheRedCorvette

          This! That’s probably the reason why I hate diss songs so much.

          • That boasting is the basis of a lot of black music dating back to the blues though.

            • JulianWithTheRedCorvette

              I can rock with self-aggrandizement. But using that boasting to tear a specific person down? I neither like it, nor respect it.

              When I hear a diss track all I can think is, “This is pointless. If you really have that much of a problem with this n!gga, why don’t ya’ll just fight?”

              • Kylroy

                Because there’s no money or fame to be made being a rapper who assaults other rappers. At least anymore, god willing.

                • Bah Debo

                  …and people are afraid to catch a whooping now, so they just shoot ya

              • Miles

                Remy is on probation…..

            • TheUnsungStoryteller

              TRUE. The Dozens.

      • Annalise Keating

        True. Takeover is one of a few exceptions where jay eviscerated nas by clearly stating how far his career had fallen and using exceptional bars. Not the typical: you are gay and I have more money than you BS many people employ

        • Catfish Jenkins

          Here’s the thing though. Ether so discombobulated Jay, he came back with Superugly, a song so foul his mom checked him.

          • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

            It also deconstructed his career and reinvention as on a blue print developed by Nas…also allegations of being two-face kinda stuck…

          • Annalise Keating

            SuperUgly was foul. Can’t argue with that. I lost a lot of respect for Jay after that song.

          • Miles

            Superugly was superugly. The Blueprint 2 was actually an excellent response that is mostly forgotten because he didn’t release it he just simply put it on his next album. Ether is overrated except for the third verse which works since Jay only dedicated one verse to Nas on the takeover.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Exactly! She has some one liners, covered butt implants, and really took shots at her brother more so than her. It really wasn’t all that impressive, she basically put on wax mostly what other people say about Nicki already in a somewhat entertaining way. If Nicki comes out like she did on “Beam Me Up Scotty” or “Sucka Free”, it’s a rap for Remy, LOL

      • FeeFee

        I’m sorry, not to argue over your personal opinion–understand taste is subjective, but to say Remy took more shots at her brother than her is unequivocally false. Not sure if it’s hyperbole, but if isn’t, you might need to listen to the track again because you’re wrong in that regard.

    • Negro Libre

      By this measure, “Hit Em Up” was just a mediocre diss record, wouldn’t you say?

      • Annalise Keating

        I am ashamed to say I haven’t heard hit em up. I would have to listen to it first and get back to you.

        • Negro Libre
        • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

          Whaaaaaaaatttttt!

        • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

          No more discussing diss records for you. Never heard Hit Em Up. Just shameful.

          • Annalise Keating

            You are right. I am sitting in a corner hanging my head low in shame….?

            • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

              Do we need to explain who he is referencing?

              • Annalise Keating

                You trying to finish me off here. I am badly wounded and bleeding terribly. Just let me die with some dignity. ?

                • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

                  OK. I’m done

        • HouseSublime

          Yeah that kinda invalidates your diss record opinion. You gotta listen to the essentials.

          • Annalise Keating

            I love Tupac. I just listened to this after negro libre posted it and I have to say I am unimpressed. Just the opinion of a lowly diss record non connesieur

            • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

              Get out of our Fort Clubhouse

              • Annalise Keating

                Bro, you aren’t going to let a sister live? Even a sister with poor taste in diss records?

                On a serious note, these rappers need to up their diss game. Not this 5th grade -I f’ed your girl, you are gay, look at all my sh*t, disses they use in their records. Takeover is an excellent blueprint.

                • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

                  Still friends? :)

                  • Annalise Keating

                    Absolutely!

            • HouseSublime

              Love Tupac but haven’t heart Hit Em up? How Sway?!

              • Annalise Keating

                I am a disgrace to Tupac fans everywhere. ????
                I started listening to him late, after he died. I have the album and heard that song once or twice before but it didn’t really grab me so I just kind of ignored and forgot about it. And I really didn’t follow the puffy/big vs PAC beef when it was happening.

          • Annalise Keating

            That’s my point though-Takeover was an exceptional diss record. I don’t have anything against insulting or belittling your opponent. But do it with excellent word play, good punchlines and exceptional bars like Takeover did. Not which junior highs school stuff like you are gay (which is also problematic because it is homophobic), you are fat, I had chex with your girl and I have more designer stuff than you.

        • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

          Sorry Annalise, no love lose, but I can’t read any more of your comments on this thread. lol.

          • Annalise Keating

            I understand. I really should have kept my head down in shame. ?

          • MsSula

            I agree. Annalise darling, we will talk to you on another thread. Loll.

      • miss t-lee

        *cackling*

      • *nods

      • TheCollinB

        Hit Em Up was weak too

        • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

          Who are you? Where CollinB?

          • TheCollinB

            In the words of Mystikal, da man righ’chea

      • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

        Back when rappers were literally dying over sh*t on wax.

        • Negro Libre

          When beefs led to coastal wars smh.

      • I mean after Pac it’s terrible.

    • Courtney Wheeler

      It was way better than Back to Back though…the last popular diss track IMO

      • Annalise Keating

        I hear you. I would say back to back is a different kind of lame.

    • guest9900

      Given ether more or less became a verb afterwards…I felt it was appropriate. But I would think the shots at her implants make sense to me if you have a song Anaconda calling out skinny bitches when you bought yours (hence the Spongebob line), you can be a boss but if you only got on by sleeping your way to the top how much of a boss are you, and also along boss lines you need to own your own stuff. Other than Uncle Sam..you should get first cut. I dont know. Most of the time it is cheap shots (and uncalled for ones – Hey Tupac “He got sickle cell or something” ) but I dont think this was the case here. Rap/Hip-hop/whateva is about authenticity and Remy shows Nicki doesnt have it in some areas she claims.

      • Annalise Keating

        The implant thing is old news and beating a dead horse imo.
        Sleeping your way to the top thing is kind of questionable as some of the men remy claimed she slept with denied it, some are her peers (not necessarily her superiors) and well attacking someone based on the amount of men they have slept with is kind of 3rd grade ish.
        I will give her some props for the stuff about her record deal though…

    • HouseOfBonnets

      Was it sloppy Yes but it was effective…..that’s what counts.

      • TheCollinB

        Sloppy. That’s the word for it. The bars didn’t go with the beat.

        • HouseOfBonnets

          She turned it around in less than 48 hours…..as someone who is notorious for tight deadlines I give it a B-.

          • God Shammgod

            also Ether is hard beat to ride because of how the drum sequence is structured. She didn’t do any worse than Nas. I hate the beat altogether tbh, but I get why she used it.

            • TheCollinB

              You were able to sum up why I hated the original so much. When I first heard Ether I thought it was music they played at Medieval Times, in his idiot savant ways, picked a trash beat and made magic happen. I get why she used it but maybe it was a little premature.

          • TheCollinB

            It got the message out that this is gonna be a thing. The rap was probably already written tho tbh

            • HouseOfBonnets

              Had to be…..Once again the math was done lol

            • God Shammgod

              I think parts of it may have, but she made too many references to what St. Nick said in the actual Make Love track for it all to have been prewritten.

              I dont mind if it was though. I’m sure when it comes down to it, Pusha got a shoebox of preplanned disses for Drake if he ever steps up to the plate

              • TheCollinB

                Terrence has been asking people to take a shot for the longest. I think he feels like to put him self in the echelon he believes he’s in he has to sacrifice one of the best. Nobody will take the bait tho because of how secular Pusha is. The big crowd really wouldn’t get it.

                • Bah Debo

                  …and Pusha would sn@tch the lyrical soul out of most rappers in a diss record. I think there are a lot of people who know better (…Drake), more so than think he’s too secular.

                  • TheCollinB

                    If I was a newer artist that professed to not know the history of rap Pusha wouldn’t scare me. He’d just be a n*gga that still wears braids and expensive clothes that makes records that 95% of hip hop listeners don’t really get.

                    • Bah Debo

                      …that might be the most hilarious mistake ever

                      Imagine lil Uzi vert coming out the side of his mouth on a record about Pusha t…

                    • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

                      Self-immolation.

      • Annalise Keating

        Definitely sloppy too.

    • God Shammgod

      I feel like you’re minimizing a few of her points, but you’re certainly free to your opinion.

      • Annalise Keating

        I am not really a diss record connoisseur or a hard core hip hop fan. I like a few artists but don’t really get most. So my opinion may be wayyyyy off the reservation

        • FeeFee

          If you’re not much into hip hop or hip hop beefs, then yeah, this won’t do much for you. But folks who enjoy this aspect of the genre, since it’s inception, and know the guidelines with how to drop bars after bars, Remy hit it out of the park.

          • Annalise Keating

            Please break down the guidelines and standards. I am eager to learn….no sarcasm…being honest here

            • Blueberry01

              Factual Content + Witty Delivery = Good Diss Record

    • HouseSublime

      Diss records are going to inherently be childish. It’s basically the dozens over a beat. It’s insults and belittling your opponent with the best wordplay you can come up with.

      Listen to Hit Em Up, Takeover, Ether, Dre Day, No Vaseline, Nail in Coffin, and 2nd round KO. All are filled with what amounts to immature insults (except maybe Takeover) but that’s just how disses are.

      • TheUnsungStoryteller

        Wasn’t there a female version too…What was her name??? She was a rapper back in the 80s who had a baby as a teenager. Deborah? Charlene? Not Brenda though. I can’t remember.

    • Naw the content was excellent. Should be 4min though.

      • Annalise Keating

        Did you think her rhymes were in sync with the beat?

        • lol god now. She was very much off

  • HouseOfBonnets
    • will_the_thrill

      I’ve been waiting for the past 48 hours for this

      • HouseOfBonnets

        Same :)

  • miss t-lee

    Thanks Sham.
    I thought I was the only who remembered her killing that track on Pun’s album.
    I also loved her spot on the Ante Up (Remix).

    • Quirlygirly

      I love that remix due to Remy. Remy been a beast.

      • PhlyyPhree

        BEEN

      • miss t-lee

        “B*TCH RUN THAT!”
        She definitely added that extra heat to any already not song.

    • God Shammgod

      Right. People been intimating that Papoose wrote Remy’s bars and I’m like…Remy been hitting.

      • miss t-lee

        Yeah, I just had that discussion with a dude here at work. That’s a no…lol

      • MsSula

        People, (and by that I mean men) have a hard time giving dues to female MCs… there always has to be a man behind. *smh*

  • HouseOfBonnets

    Personally I feel like nicki should respond especially given all of the queen of rap/she has the throne bravado and the shots she threw on two separate guest features. In addition she knows how this can end up seeing how she was a direct witness to the continued life of losing that is meek. Pull a wanna know if you want to. With that being said after thinking about what Ricky said earlier about her not being a battle rapper and her attempting to respond would be a loss within itself maybe it’s best to take the L, plus she still has the teen nick community which is her bread and butter (although I sideeye all of them).

    • Madam CJ_Skywalker

      Simple. Don’t make a battle rap song.
      Do what Drake and Pac did.
      Make a club record with shots thrown in for fun.

      • HouseOfBonnets

        That will work for the young stans but for us she’ll be taking a L and forever getting a sideeye if she claims queen of rap again.

        • Madam CJ_Skywalker

          That’s fair. But rap fans are diff now a days.
          They forgive easily as long as you got hits for them. It’s an instant gratification society. Just look at Drake.

          • HouseOfBonnets

            I mean in the case of Meek vs Drake Meek played a part in his own demise:

            1. Not having a track already on deck before tweeting
            2. Waiting almost a week to respond (by that time Drake had two disses and 2 random songs out.
            3.Responding via Social media instead at first.
            4. Letting DJ’s inaccurately hype him up (See funkmaster flex).

          • Negro Libre

            Beats > Lyrics.

            That’s the reason mumblers get so much shine.

            • Madam CJ_Skywalker

              Which is why Nicki still has a shot to come out on top in this here battle.

      • Cleojonz

        I heard this expressed on the radio this morning. They said Minaj could come back from this if she just made a club banger that had some shots thrown in. She can’t go head to head with Remy battle style. She would just be playing herself.

  • blueevey

    “…Her staple fan base isn’t one that cut their teeth in the late 90s/early aughts era of rap…”

    Me af. And I’m not even that young. I just didn’t listen to anything in english and current until hs.

    If this keeps going, it’ll be interesting to see who takes sides and which sides. Remy ma was in dj Khaled’s concert last yr who was in Beyoncé’s concert and the 2 plus jayz just released a song. Aaand beyonce and nicki are friends/collaborators

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