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Paul George Got On Twitter This Morning. He Shouldn’t Have.

Paul George (Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)

 

Athletes are a talented bunch. But nobody has ever accused them of all being smart. Or having any real concept of common sense, decency, or consideration. Such is the case of Paul George of the Indiana Pacers. When we last spoke of Paul George, his leg was breaking every kind of which a way. Well today, he decided to share his thoughts on the Ray Rice situation via Twitter. And yes, you know how this is going to go.

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Look, I don’t know how many times we have to say this to our athletes, especially the super inarticulate ones (like George), but ride slow homey. Pump your brakes and ride slow homey. Do not weigh in. Let the people who do the heavy mental lifting handle it publicly and you can speak your peace at home amongst people who love you and won’t judge you (too much). Clearly, somebody got a hold to him and he sent that last tweet and deleted the non-sensical ones. But still, we have GOT to give these talented fools more training or something.

Something.

 

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  • Aw, hell.

    Here comes a Grand Apology Tour in 5… 4… 3…

    • panamajackson

      He did apologize in his tweets but apparently – as I’m arguing about this via Twitter – there are those who think there’s absolutely nothing wrong with what he said.

      • Val

        Arguing with those people is a lost cause, PJ. Anyone who doesn’t get it at this point doesn’t want to get it.

        • panamajackson

          Gonna have to go on ahead and agree with you here.

  • I wish I could get paid and not have to have any mental fortitude whatsoever. That must be so damb nice.

    • Val

      Speaking of which; what the heck was your dude Cam talking about yesterday?

      • Listen. Cam’s main focus is the Detroit Lions and having his hands full being protected from Donkey Kong Suh and his former Auburn teammate Nick. I think he made that very clear. No further questions from the peanut gallery. Thank you.

        • Val

          If he’s worried about Suh then why is he goading him? Making fun of his name is just going to motivate Suh more, don’t you think? And, being that your dude is kind of delicate he might not want to taunt defensive linemen in general.

          And I got your peanut gallery, lady.

          • .

          • I fully expect Suh to get all up in Cam’s asshh for this press conference.

    • Black Pantha

      *Damn

  • We also have to remember how young dude is. I mean…24 isn’t what it used to be.

    • I’m 24. What you saying?

      • I’m 31. Not trying to be ageist, we’re all young here. The point is that generationally speaking, maturity develops differently nowadays for those that grew up after the advent of full Cable TV saturation, video games, and Internet.

        • Lol so because of the advancement of technology, being in your 20’s during this era = slower maturation. Ok. I’d hate to see how immature this next generation will be once technology does what technology inevitably does.

          • Well, think about it like this: The teachers of today are the children of about 20 years ago (80’s babies like me). The 90’s babies will eventually step in and become the parents and teachers of the NEXT generation…and there won’t be that frame of reference that WE have where we know what it meant to not be globally connected by anything but corded phones and Cable satellite feeds. And so on, and so on.

            Again, not a knock, and not that you guys and the youngings are worse off, but it’s just ‘different’.

            • So the average 31 year old, by your definition, is less mature than the average 31 year old 10 years ago.

              • Yes. The internet, the ubiquity of media/marketing/advertising as a whole (and therefore it’s dumbing-down for lowest-common-denominator audiences), and broken homes have all led to an adaptation of the recent human generations. I’m not married yet, don’t have any kids; my mom had her second child (me) with my dad (34) by the time she was 30, so…?

                • Having children at a young age does not equate to being mature, nor does marrying young. Being in a relationship doesn’t equate to being mature either. So again, what are you really trying to tell me?

                  ETA: By your definition, many of my peers are “more mature than me” because they had multiple children in their teen years.

                  • I didn’t want to put down a dissertation in order to get my point across. The writing’s all out there. Read the book ‘Manning Up’; read this NYT piece that was just posted today: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/magazine/the-death-of-adulthood-in-american-culture.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

                    Point being, there are several factors that have changed what we consider to be the ‘standard’ upbringing for kids throughout the years. Kids these days (KIDS, not 20-somethings) don’t play outside in the streets like we did. Hell, I remember how video games changed how I saw ‘play’ even when I was a kid, but it was just starting to happen then. Now there’s twitter and cartoonnetwork.com and Nintendo 3DS’s and Nickelodeon and 6th graders with smartphones…the whole 9. It fundamentally changes how you socialize, and it removes a lot of the personal human interaction that we used to have much more often. People (age notwithstanding) aren’t as patient as they used to be because of 24-hour media cycles and instant-gratification fixations.

                    Every form of culture has reflected this, I know you see it.

                    • You act like children don’t go outside or build meaningful relationships with peers. They still do both of these things as well as enjoying things you didn’t have coming up. Stop it. You still never touched on my rebuttal about how being a parent somehow equates to one being mature. I can list off a grip of immature individuals who are parents. The ability to procreate is an innate one and has nothing to do with mental maturity. There are plenty of people who have never had children and do not want them either.

                      You can push that whole, kids watch too much tv trop on me but I can easily link you to articles which state that the Millennial generation is outpacing yours in terms of education, political awareness, fiscal soundness, etc.

                    • I agree with this. Let’s forget the having kids thing, because that’s really not what the original post is about. I fucked up there, fair enough (and I did address it in another reply above).

                      In the age of Social Media and rampant information (do not read: ‘knowledge’), there is a trend of people not really knowing how to properly handle privacy, decorum, etiquette, and patience. I’m not saying it’s all to blame on technology; I’m simply saying that technology is enabling the propagation of social trends–sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.

                    • DG

                      Not to nitpick or anything, but you’re actually both part of the Millennial generation. Gen X is now 35 and up (1979 and earlier, if I’m correct).

                    • I never said I was of a completely separate generation. The classification of Generations isn’t really an exact science anyway. It’s kinda socially accepted more than mathematical. I tend to separate things by pre-Internet/post-Internet. It’s really a cleaner divide to me.

                    • I know I am.

                  • Also, I’m not saying that fathering/mothering children makes you mature…I’m probably not picking the right examples and words succinctly because I’m at work and therefore distracted, but I brought up my parents having kids because they were in a stable marriage at the time they were READY to have kids. And they were in a stable marriage because they felt (I presume) they had graduated beyond the need for more schooling and self-discovery. They settled down to make a life.

                    By contrast, I also presume, your teen-parent friends probably weren’t ‘done’ in their minds with the whole growing-up thing before having a kid. Sure, some teens want kids, but call me naive but I’d bet most teens want to live child-free for as long as possible before being READY to settle down and start a family.

                    (I hate that all my responses are paragraphs long and you just have neat compact responses, my bad. I’m not good at being concise.)

                    • Like I said, getting married and having children doesn’t equate to being mature and it won’t ever equate to “being mature”. It’s a personal choice that two consenting adults make because they are at a point in their relationship which they feel warrants a lifetime commitment. Who’s to say that two immature individuals can’t go to a courthouse and sign a few documents? Get out of here.

                      As for your poorly formed responses to mine, sounds like a personal problem to me.

                    • I’m not here to make enemies. I want you to re-read my words, because there are no lines between them. I had another response to your previous comment that apparently got deleted or lost or something, but made better points.

                      Anyway, let me work on my conciseness: “Times are changing.”

                      That work for you?

                    • I agree that times are changing. Your opinion on the maturity of those who were born after you is yours to have.

  • Paradigm

    Just focus on the rehab PG.. Focus on the rehab smdh

  • Royale W. Cheese

    If he were intelligent, he may have said that “no real justice is being served in this totally cluster-f***ed situation” but apparently he is an imbicile.

  • Amy Juicebox

    sigh. next.

  • cakes_and_pies

    Well, bless his heart.

  • PG is 100% wrong, but I have a problem with the notion of people saying “athletes dont speak out like they used to” then when somebody does say something, they are told to shut up because “they’re stupid”. Its either one or the other. Are they only allowed to speak when their opinion matches everyone else’s?

    • I think people tell athlete’s to “shut up” when they start speaking on things which are beyond their scope, ie: Paul George being wholly ignorant of the seriousness of domestic abuse and using his Twitter account to make light of said situation.

      “If she ain’t trippin, then I ain’t trippin (insert “lol” here to let the people know that I’m not mature enough to handle a discussion concerning violence against spouses)”

      • BlueWave1

        But who decides what is or isn’t “beyond their scope”? What does Paul George need to be qualified to speak on domestic abuse? I only ask because I think cedmond422 makes a very valid point. We want celebrities to take a stand and “be real” but we don’t like their real when they show it to us.

        • This is true. I suppose beyond his scope would be him speaking on astrophysics or something of that nature. I think taking a stand isn’t encouraging other men to be in alignment with “if she doesn’t care that I hit her, then I shouldn’t care”. That’s a dangerous mindset to spread especially when you have a large following of young black men who already probably have negative views of women and how they should be treated.

          • I don’t particularly agree with almost anything Bill O’Reilly has to say. Should he have to be quiet because HALF the country disagrees with him or thinks he’s an outright baffoon? No. I seen someone Im friends with on Facebook was part of the “I Support Officer Wilson” page. I didn’t unfriend him even though I found that whole page assinine(?), we just happen to disagree. I know he’s still a good dude. Athletes are people just like anyone else that pays taxes….

            • panamajackson

              Here’s a real question and its not about your boy. I dont know him. But doesn’t stuff like that make you look at people differently though? Like how does one support something so blatantly wrong without it saying a lot more about them as people? I struggle with that. Nobody has to agree with me in discussions; I enjoy the sport of debate from different angles. So I’m open to vastly different views.

              However, when I find out somebody supports something that is largely questionable based on what we all deem to be facts, its hard for me not to make a larger judgement on the person. Again, they could be great people with extremely opposite views, but its hard for me to just be lke, you’re great in every way but one. It’s never just one.

              • I see your point, but for me its like the first time i disagreed with my mother after i was an adult. It was heated, but i respected her opinion cause she’s my mom. Ima love moms no matter what. Ifyou think about the amount of selfish, single minded drive it takes to be a pro athlete, its amazing MORE of them arent douchebags to me.

        • panamajackson

          Your last sentence is an important distinction. It’s a bit sobering when you realize that many of these athletes are probably not really good people. There was a time when athletes got to just be admired for their talents and nobody really focused on the substance of the people. Realizing what’s really in their minds has many of us wishing I could just admire them again without even knowing. But its a slippery slope.

          I dont care if celebrites take a stand personally. I’ve learned that celebs are people just liek the rest of us and subject to the same non-sense. Which is okay, be human. But their words don’t carry any heavier weight, even on the positive end.

      • st george doesnt exist

        nah we say it retroactively when they say something stupid that needs to be judged. Yet they never act like the common and call out b.s in a timely fashion. In a way they are million dollar slaves. But im guilty too as Im going to keep watching games and what not. Its just amazing how they have something to say when its bat shit stupid..

    • h.h.h.

      Are they only allowed to speak when their opinion matches everyone else’s?

      Yes.

      • panamajackson

        I dont know that I think this to be true. But like most things on social media, when somebody disagrees with the wave, lots of folks get in their feelings. I’m not sure how this quite matches up with this situation though. What he said was fairly trivializing of domestic violence. No matter how you feel about the man or the situation with Ray Rice, its hard to come out on the side of folks who downplay it as not really being a big deal. It’s not nearly as bad as Ceelo’s comments but its heading in that same direction.

        • h.h.h.

          what Mr. George said was insensitive to victims of D.V., but at the same time is based off of something that most people ignorant of DV are aware of, the fact that Mrs. Rice has stated multiple times (on her instagram page, and i heard an ESPN report Tues. night) that they will work it out as a couple. because of that i think a lot of people are being confuzzled (trademarks confuzzled as a new word) (yes i know that denying assistance is a symptom of D.V., i was not hip to that either)

          when the public complains about athletes not taking a stand, it’s because back in the day, the athletes didn’t make anywhere near close to what they are making now, and as such, still lived in their hometowns, and could actually see what was what (until the 70s/80s, most players from all 4 major sports still had side jobs in the off-season). nowadays, you have players that are kept apart from general pop, who do nothing but train for their craft and cultivate their brand, and occasionally log onto a phone that connects them to twitter…i wouldn’t be surprised if they are ignorant to most of the issues today.

          even if you have an athlete who amazingly keeps abreast of what’s going on, and can tell you what’s going on in Ukraine and how many waves of femin*sm there are, if he speaks out, then you have the other side of the population, who will speak out and complain, and the team would have to tell him to shut up as well.

          which is why i say…unless it’s the overwhelming opinion of the majority, most athletes should keep quiet and tweet motivation quotes.

    • panamajackson

      You know what I think the difference is, back in the day, athletes who were activists were likely more informed. Folks minded their lanes. If you cared to speak you did, but there was a different level of awareness. Nowadays, with the advent of social media, all these athletes and entertainers that decades ago wouldnt be speaking into the ethos are able to do so. What we’re learning is how ill-informed athletes and entertainers are about any number of things. They’re humans. To that end, short of something sports related, you will never hear me complain about athletes (or anybody for that matter) speaking up.

      If they chose to speak up that’s fine. But that doesn’t mean that they’re thoughts aren’t subject to scrutiny. On a smaller scale, its the same thing with sites like VSB. Saying anything opens you up. Social media has removed that barrier between regular people and celebrities so they get sized up like everybody else does.

      So, they’re allowed to speak up whenever they want, but they’re open to the same criticisms as anybody else.

      And I think we can agree there’s a difference between speaking up and just saying sh*t. If what you say is clearly misinformed, ridiculous, or just plain wrong it’s not wrong to call somebody on it. I had this discussion on Twitter as well. The main tweet that was problematic essentially implies that as long as the wife doesn’t have a problem, then no problem exists and everybody should move on. Which completely ignores the fact that something very real happened. It does trivialize it and he rightly tweeted later (probably with the help of PR or at the request of somebody in the org) that he didn’t mean to downplay it.

      Some stuff really should be said amongst the homeys and even then probably not at all. Everybody’s entitled to their opinion, but it does help to think that sh*t thru first and that’s a lesson to anybody.

      • I agree they should be called on stuff when theyre wrong, i just object to people saying they shouldnt have an opinion at all. I think Floyd, Ray Rice, and PG should be ripped for WHAT they said (or did), but no one should tell them they got no business speaking…

        • panamajackson

          I think most people chalk it up, “they shouldn’t have said sh*t” as more of a, if you’re gonna say something, why say that. It’s less a permissive thing than a “why say that?” thing. Nobody begrudes folks the right to speak. I even hope the folks i hate speak their minds, but we all should be ready to be called on our non-sense.

      • This is what I was trying to say earlier about the advent of instant social media. Public figures of decades ago might have been just as misinformed AT FIRST, before they started talking with their family and friends and agents and whatnot, becoming more informed, and then developing an informed opinion.

        But because you can just diarrhea at the mouth and people all across the world can read it in 5 seconds, AND the fact that people naturally want to ‘belong’, people are more inclined to impulsively say or do something that they should’ve/would’ve otherwise taken time to think through first.

  • XYZ

    I can’t help but believe when people make statements like Paul G. they have hit and/or will hit and feel justified doing so.

  • st george doesnt exist

    Bird got on his ass. its on espn.

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