Osama Gone.

I'm dead.

I had intended to write a whole other post and then I happened to look at Twitter. And all of a sudden I see ninjas talking about Osama Bin Laden being dead.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

I stopped EVERYTHING I was doing and immediately turned to CNN and here goes Wolf Blitzer (I swear, if ANYTHING goes down Wolf is involved) and some other white guy I know but can’t name talking about the death of Osama Bin Laden.

It’s an oddly weird feeling to hear this news. It’s been nearly 10 years since 9/11. At this point Bin Laden was just one of those names that’s become part of the American consciousness. For a long time his name caused venom but over time, and much like anything else, he just kind of became part of the culture. Apple pie. New Yorkers. Osama Bin Laden. I think for most of us, we kind of assumed he’s either been dead or quit life altogether and just holed up in some cave somewhere.

It’s kind of like the terror warnings and levels. They mean nothing at this point. They just exist somewhere out there but most of us keep going on about our lives. To some degree it even seems like al-Qaeda had taken a break as they definitely hit a terrorist lull (I’m fully aware that many terrorists acts have occurred around the world and continue to to do so with fervor, but al-Qaeda hasn’t seemed as active) which is either a testament to our foreign ops or a reminder that some of these cats are REALLY trying to take their time planning more attacks. I don’t know, and I think that’s the point. You just never know.

But if its true, the world just took an interesting turn. First and foremost, Obama just got his trump card. Pun intended.

But more importantly, my guess is that Bin Laden just became more of a martyr than he’s already been. And I can’t imagine what kind of retaliations might happen to our troops and any Americans abroad. I’m actually worried about this. The Taliban will either go the short game, immediate action and reaction and death to infidels route or pretend its not true and make sure they hit the airwaves to say that America is lying.

I’m wondering what affect this will have on the world. More suicide bombings? Forgive my lack of focus and clarity but this is just some odd news. It’s world news and world history. It’s a significant part of the fabric of American society. 9/11 has significantly impacted the lives of everybody in the world.

It means something.

And I think it will from here too. If terrorists didn’t have motivation to go out and do commit more intense crimes, they have it now. I feel like the CIA is about to be on their highest alert ever. And we kind of need them to be. Who knows whats about to go down?

Now that we got all of that out of the way….on a slightly more ignant note…I kind of wonder if Obama is giving folks the pound or dappin’ ninjas behind the scenes? Obama is about to be on his Mr. Big D*ck game for a while now. In fact, if I was him, I’d go straight to the GOP and be like, “yo, whatever I want for the next two years,  you all might as well make it happen. I got Bin Laden. Did you? No. You didn’t. So what if I didn’t do it myself. I proved I’m American, b*tched Trump in front of  him AND snagged the world’s public enemy #1 within the span of 4 days. Get like me. They’re about to rename the “dougie” the “obamie”. Oh, and I am about to require American’s to learn the Electric Slide. What?!!! Balance the budget b*tch.”

Sorry. I just had a ninja moment.

Enough.

So, what’s your perspective on all of this?

Oh, and how much you want to bet Osama died with a “Stop Snitching” tshirt on?

Shake something.

By the way, I love how Obama said, “I did this. Me, n***a. I George Bushed da button. What?!”

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka OBAMA IS MY COUSIN aka OSAMA GONE, THAT NINJA DEAD aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL, HE GOT OSAMA

476 thoughts on “Osama Gone.

  1. “guess is that Bin Laden just became more of a martyr than he’s already been. And I can’t imagine what kind of retaliations might happen to our troops and any Americans abroad.”

    so true!

    **now back to studying for law school exams…:(

  2. Inappropriate comment:
    Somebody said his funeral song should be Bury Me Thuggin by Lil Boosie

    I need to leave Louisiana. smh

    Back to lurking…

  3. Yo, that caption kilt slayed

    I found the picture and its caption to be very amusing, sir.

    *goes back to studying for finals*

    • Hells yeah! That damn picture and caption had me crackin’ up for too long. :D

      *back to typing this paper* pout

  4. If its true ……………. i’m praying for us – this dude had martyrs all over the world willing to die for the cause and we have to be certain that they were prepared for this day.

    On a lighter note – Obama is GANGSTA for this one! He was able to do what 3 presidents couldn’t.

  5. Ehh, the interesting stuff isn’t going to happen until weeks and months down the round until when we have a clearer picture of how specifically Pakistan responds to this and the Arab world at large. Ideally people would be more interested in the long term affects, but they’re not. But shoot, at least I get to start random U.S.A. chants tomorrow and the police are going to be all friendly. Wait nevermind, my name is Malik, I’m going to get to JFK security treatment for the next 2 weeks telling any ’25/20s’ my name.

  6. Dave Chappelle has a joke about how every time the US is goin through problems Michael Jackson will just up and jerk off a little kid,nfirst thing I thought off lol now where is my aluminum foil hat?

  7. This is a major accomplishment for the Obama administration and may help him clench the 2012 election.

    OBAMA DEAD YALLLLL. “We gon’ find ya” *Antoine Dodson voice*

  8. Elation followed by anxiousness and worry. Right now, in the eyes of his followers, he’s getting slobbed down by his virgins like a bawse; a beacon of light if you will. Sure, he’s dead, but is the war on terror? A lot of drug kingpins are dead, but is the war on drugs? No and no.

    But, I am gonna vote Obama back in based solely off this. So you got your good and your bad.

  9. Obama is a true Gangsta! First he walks out and drops that ether on Trump at the Correspondent’s Dinner last night then tonight he interrupted the Celebrity Apprentice. Barry walkin’ ’round like “Mahalo, Bish!”

    In all seriousness though. This is a historic moment in the history of this country. This brings at least a symbolic ending to the horrors that took place 10 years ago this September. For all the lives lost on 9/11 and all the lives of our troops since then, may they finally find peace.

    God Bless America! And God bless our President. May he keep us safe.

    • +1. I really think Obama just all but guaranteed his reelection. Between this and putting Trump in his place this weekend. He pretty much had a very good weekend. I bet he looked in the mirror before his announcement and said: “I’m the President B***hes!!!”

      I also think Kanye West’s “Celebration” is playing in the background in the Oval Office right now. lol. http://youtu.be/gqDaOcF-Gk4

      • Obama in secret meetings: And we’re gonna kill Bin Laden!-Nope, already did that!-And then we’re gonna take down Al Qaeda! And then we’re gonna pass universal healthcare! And then we’re gonna fix the economy! PIIIIYYAAHHHH!

    • The White House Correspondent’s Dinner (at the Hilton – wtf?) was pretty much the dopest ever. Shots were being fired all over the place.

      …kinda wanted Pres to drop the mic at the end of the speech tonight and Jigga’s “Encore” to start up.

      God. Bless. America. (waving my flag)

      • Right….I woulda LOOOOVED it if Mr President made the following speech as his last point: ““yo, whatever I want for the next two years, you all might as well make it happen. I got Bin Laden. Did you? No. You didn’t. So what if I didn’t do it myself. I proved I’m American, b*tched Trump in front of him AND snagged the world’s public enemy #1 within the span of 4 days. Get like me. They’re about to rename the “dougie” the “obamie”. Oh, and I am about to require American’s to learn the Electric Slide. What?!!! Balance the budget b*tch.”

  10. Like you, I’m had a whole different topic to blog about for tomorrow. I don’t typically blog about the news, but today warrants that attention. I won’t discuss all of my thoughts, but I definitely have mixed emotions. The celebrations have me feeling a certain kind of way. Ultimately, I think this is good…maybe. But, there are just too many uncertainties for me to know. To all the families affected by 9/11, I’m curious if they feel they’ve achieved justice. But I just don’t know.

    • Not sure the direction you were headed with your comment regarding mixed emotions, but I’m with you on that boat. I generally take issue with the celebration of a person’s demise…”generally” being the operative word. In our collective euphoria we essentially are celebrating the fact that a man was murdered. I’m not a Bin Ladin sympathizer by no means and I celebrate the mission accomplished, and while the mission accomplished culminates in the death of a man, it is not the death that I celebrate. I blame repressed Christian teachings for my cognitive dissonance.

      • “In our collective euphoria we essentially are celebrating the fact that a man was murdered.”

        I’ve been waiting to see if I was the only one who felt this way… On the one hand, I’m glad that this specific threat has been eliminated. On the other, it’s hard for me to be joyful and happy that someone is dead. Even though he was an awful hateful person who killed countless others. Justice isn’t “ours” to mete out…

      • i too cannot celebrate a man’s death; however i recognize that it is symbolic of something much longed for… justice is done as Obama put it. i continue to pray and hope for peace and security among all nations and God’s wisdom and guidance for our leaders.

  11. First, it’s not “he got him” to me, it’s “they got him”. After reading my FB wall for about an hour and seeing the president get far more credit than the troops, I felt the need to mention that.

    Second, it’s not a red or blue thing. It’s a red, white, and blue thing. I may get into the Republicans tomorrow (and they’re already giving me reasons), but tonight there’s a bigger picture.

    That said, I loved the president’s continuous mention of the fact that he made the central decisions in the last week leading up to the day’s events.

    Re: reprisals, I can’t say I’m terribly concerned. The network had been greatly splintered in the last few years, and I seriously doubt the smaller groups can put together a strong enough effort to cause significant damage. Not only have the troops gotten bin Laden and Saddam, but they’ve also gotten a lot of the high-ranking lieutenants in the interim. I’ll stop short of saying “we’ll be fine”, but I don’t see immediate retribution coming.

      • Not mine…I’d say it was 80/20 in “favor” of the president, and most of the 20 consisted of friends who are or were in the military. I won’t impugn my friends (who I’m sure meant well), but I will say that I wish my news feed looked more like yours.

        • Hey, people are excited because the biggest warrior on the otherside has gone down.
          Personally, I’m like so what…they ain’t did nothing in a while. And I’m not even sure if thats them we’ve been fighting…for all we civilians know, we could be bumping heads with twenty or thirty different types of resistance and just calling them all one name.

          Ain’t afraid of no counter attacks….I expect this mess to be over by the years end. Finally.
          But I hear ya…straight up…Pres gets credit because its in his term….but the worker bees….they physically did the job….but as in business, THE CEO GETS THE BIG CHECK, the grunts who do the job get the peanuts. Same tish different porcelain.

          • I disagree with the idea that CEOs should get the big checks too, as I do with management in most areas (I’m heavily pro-labor). I understand that it happens, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it.

            • Oh, I absolutely agree with you…its just not changing any time soon. But then again, I do have exorbitantly high faith in Obama.
              Who knows what he’ll do next season(Yes, I just referred to his term as a season).

    • I hear what you are trying to say but you are missing the major point of RESPONSIBILITY.

      OBAMA gave the order, if this mission had gone wrong or failed OBAMA would be the one with all the blame, and not those troops.

      So as the one who has the most to lose he is deserving of the gain of praise!!

      • *OBAMA gave the order, if this mission had gone wrong or failed OBAMA would be the one with all the blame, and not those troops.*

        This is one of the best points about this that I think I’ve heard made on FB, Twitter, or here.

      • Of course Obama would have been the one to blame if this mission had gone wrong, because…

        1) …we blamed him all those times previous missions failed for whatever reason. Wait, what? We don’t know how many other missions there may have been?
        2) …this mission would have been equally newsworthy if it failed. It surely would have been all over the news and the blogosphere.
        3) …he’s taken so much flak for it already. That’s been his #1 criticism above health care, the deficit, his handling of BP, and his birth certificate. FOX News was always talking about how he hadn’t caught bin Laden and saying his re-election hopes depended on that – oh, wait: he’s already predicted to beat most of the possible Republican challengers.
        4) …bin Laden’s not being caught before November 2008 was the main reason he was elected. That was what people were talking about: the economy had nothing to do with it.

        Even if I subscribe to the idea that he deserves more praise than the troops, the idea that the split should be 80/20 is ludicrous. It is equally ludicrous to say that he had so much to lose: he obviously never caught bin Laden before, so he was only in a position to gain. Can’t lose something you never had.

        I never even said he wasn’t deserving of praise. I clearly stated that I liked how he made sure his stamp was on the effort.

        You clearly missed the majority of the point that I was making – about 80 percent of it.

  12. In my very military neighborhood, I haven’t heard shyt. I’m not sure if it’s because most of my neighbors go to work before dawn or because they know it just go to much real-ER. Obama just essentially walked up to the podium and hit his Dougie. It’s going to take a bunch of Republican interns all night to come up with appropriate talking points that put a negative spin no this.

  13. I could say a lot about terror, but I’m going to briefly enjoy the moment.
    SN: Obama gave his speech and walked off extra gangsta.

      • that was the first thing I though when he turned and walked away…completely gangsta and on to hit the dougie in the oval office

        some people still trying to bring in Bush like he helped push the “get that b!tch” button

        SN: Osama is dead, not Obama…I keep seeing that written everywhere

    • @YouMiss
      I could say a lot about terror, but I’m going to briefly enjoy the moment.
      SN: Obama gave his speech and walked off extra gangsta.

      COSIGN! …… and let’s not forget he waited all day to make this announcement in the middle of The Apprentice! Right at the crucial point ~~~ when Nene was about to challenge Trump and be sent home! I really believe that he was making a statement to The Donald! Gansta move Mr. President!

      • Did Nene get sent home? I hope so because she really showed out and made herself look dumb. I’m was yelling STFU at the TV that whole episide.

  14. It’s funny that this happened on the day that Hitler Cobained himself back in ’45. This is a great symbolic victory but the fools who follow OBL’s ideas are still at work. Hopefully the folks in uniform step their game up to prepare for the backlash.

    The President’s detractors can’t say sh*t now.

    *In Connery’s voice*
    “Suck it Trump!”

      • They look really retarded doing so, I remember some yrs ago Obama said that if he became president and there was reliable intelligence to suggest Osama was hiding in Pakistan, he would invade and there was a sh*t storm from everyone about that statement. He was criticized by the Dems and the Repubs., especially the GWB admin for being naive and not understanding the importance of allies. Wonders of all wonders, Osama is hiding in Pakistan. Obama did exactly what he said he was going to do and no one else should take that credit.

  15. Yeah there will be much Fox News anti-Obama hateration despite it all. Still don’t know how I feel. Need to process. Feel guilty for feeling joy at someone’s death, and feel guilty about feeling guilty…

    • Need to process. Feel guilty for feeling joy at someone’s death, and feel guilty about feeling guilty…

      This is a good description…while I recognize the significance of his demise, I am hesitant to allow myself to celebrate someone’s death, even a known terrorist.

  16. talking with cheekie…we noted how interesting that in our world today, news comes via facebook and twitter… technology is truly amazing.

    i remember where i was (in our nation’s capital) on 9/11/01 and that feeling. the WHOLE world changed that day. that attack was on more than just Americans.

    that speech was just everything.

    twitter has made me laugh and angry tonight. and while it wont change anything immediately, let us take a collective moment to breathe and say a prayer.

    and hope that it doesn’t get worse before it gets better.

    and that troops can come home. ALL of them.

  17. What does the death of osama bin laden mean for me personally?
    a less than funny VSB post, I guess.

    And yeah, I just figured he had probably already died in a cave or something, since he looks like 500 years old.
    I think this pretty much seals the 2012 elections.

    • This and the apparent fact that the GOP is too fractured to even present a viable candidate to run against Obama.

      • Yeah… Donald Trump?!?! Really?!?
        oh and random thing I kept thinking with all that trump birth certificate ish, do they even remember that guy who Obama was running against in 2007? Because McCain actually REALLY wasn’t born in the US

        • How is this possible- for any candidate to get that far in the process without clear evidence of being born in the US?

          • Oh, he was born on an army base in panama or something, which I guess is technically US territory, and he was a citizen from birth. But I’m just saying, you didn’t hear a peep about him not being “really american” or anything.

            • I’m saying the whole argument seems impossible. One would have to possess a giant “pair” to run a presidential campaign and try to hide not being born in America. I guess it could happen, just seems very unlikely. I could imagine someone running who makes a spectacle of not being American (trying to test the system), but not otherwise.

              • Even with the recent presentation of the long-form birth certificate I’ve had an anti-Obama co-worker break land speed records to come to my office and report that some expert took the pdf copy of the birth certificate, opened it in Adobe Illustrator software, and determined that it was fabricated from multiple layers of information combined to look like a single document. These “birthers” will not concede!

                • “opened it in Adobe Illustrator software, and determined that it was fabricated from multiple layers of information combined to look like a single document”

                  what?!?!?!?
                  What was your response to that?

                • The challenge against President Obama’s birth certificate was neither rooted in reality or facts before he produced the long form…

                  …why should that change after he produced the long form. The long form just shuts up politicians. They can’t pretend to have doubt anymore. The Insance Clown Posse (i.e Birthers) will accept nothing that conflicts with their pre-determined conclusion.

                • @ Cab

                  I had a co-worker present the same argument. Dude be on Drudge Report like everyday. Coming to me with some more bs.

  18. I’m glad that they got him.

    On another note…what’s the deal with the Obama re-election now? Cuz, real talk…with gas at almost $100 a gallon, I need him to get on that before he gets my full support.

    That…and bring the troops home ASAP. Turn over their damn country, chuck the dueces and make it back home. It’s been too long that folks been over there fighting the “war on terror”…this ambiguous thing that seems like the “war on drugs” (which from the amount of 420 smoked in the open here in Cali, it seems as though we’re losing). Now that we have some degree of “success” we need to exit. It about to get thick over there. Everyone gonna be on the “who’s got the big dyck now”…trying to take Bin Laden’s place.

    Drop gas prices and bring the troops home…then he’ll have my FULL support. As it stands…good job though

    • I don’t think Obama has anything to do with this, but I think gas prices will start dropping soon. OPEC basically sets gas prices and like 2 or 3 years ago when gas kept getting more and more expensive and then it was so expensive that people started driving less, and buying less gas, and then they dropped gas prices from like $5 to $2.50. I bet something like that will happen before the elections

        • I really try to pay attention in economics, but I miss key pieces here and there. Half credit for being right that Obama doesn’t control gas prices, and for using “OPEC” in my comment.

          • You’re not the only one that believed OPEC was the problem, people in media have suggested that OPEC is the problem. They certainly do have the ability to influence price by altering supply, but speculators are largely believed to be behind the price spike that do not follow the supply-demand model. This article gives a good layman’s explanation of how these kind of things happen.

            http://www.thenation.com/article/159078/will-federal-regulators-crack-down-oil-speculation

            • My humble opinion on non-human gas:
              1) Gas will continue to go up. It’s non-renewable. I’ve heard that we’ve past our peak production years. Fighting it is a waste of time. Getting rid of our civilian (non-transportation industry) gas taxes would probably help a little, but I don’t hear too much about that.
              2) The drop in demand affects the price. It’s partly our own faults for the price of gas. (I, too, drive a guzzler though.)
              3) If we can get the Republicans to stop blocking investment in renewable energy we can move away from gas gracefully. If not- move as close to work as possible and invest in passenger vehicles.

              • #1 and #2 is the reason why we should be doing #3. It’s non-renewable, we know it, and yet we aren’t driving any less. It makes no sense to wait until we’re on our last drop to start looking for alternatives.

                Actually adding more gas tax would help more than cutting it. It would force people to drive ONLY when they had to and demand would drop (I know I would work from home as often as I could). Still it would be painful to the 10th power for those who have to commute to work. And in some ways could cripple the economy (transportation costs would sky rocket)

                • “Actually adding more gas tax would help more than cutting it.”

                  uggh, LOL. I understand what you’re saying though. When the price gets high enough to be uncomfortable, the demand will plummet. I believe that happened the last time it got over $4. (They’re already charging $5.50 in Orlando near the rental car places.)

                  • Yeah the problem is when it gets that high it also has detrimental effects on the economy. For products and goods that have to move across the country, the transportation cost is just passed to the consumer and you will pay a king’s ransom to fly anywhere.

                    • I imagine that effect would be temporary. And if people are spending less on gas, they have more to spend elsewhere. Some vehicles would still remain somewhat necessary (trucks) but the auto industry would take a hit. I can’t imagine how politicans begin to balance all these priorities. Maybe they just try to spread the pain as evenly as possible.

                    • They may have more money to spend elsewhere (though I kind of doubt it) but they’ll be paying more for whatever they buy regardless (i.e. the transportation costs). It’s a lose lose situation (IMO)

        • right. Most of that is coming from commodities trading that places bids on oil futures contracts. The market determines the price and they bid on how high the price of oil will be, thus in turn causing gas prices to go up even higher. They’re getting rich off us again :(

    • Yeah, this has been a “best week ever” for Obama but after the last year of busted balls, he deserved his 4-hit (jab, cross, upper-cut, roundhouse kick) combo weekend of serving busting out the long-form, busting a warning flare to Trump and shifting the focus on the war on terror.

      But the war on terror isn’t going much of anywhere as long as things are as unstable as they are now. Political upheaval is as contagious in the arab nations as chicken-pox. As long as we keep taking the moral duty high-road, we will be shipping cruise missiles to the suez canal for a very long time. At least Raytheon and Boeing will keep making cake from the situation. War is too profitable ($830,000 for a single cruise missile and we popped off 60-something on day one in Libya) and weapon sales are wonderful ways of smoothing out international political disputes.

      Oh, and when speculative trading is addressed, fuel prices will become moderated. Getting the oil out of the ground, shipped and processed is about $30 per barrel so the other $81 is pretty much money in the bank on the front end for those trading in the shares.

    • I’m guessing that by the time the 2012 election campaigning begins, the American public will have forgotten about this and will be on some “what have you done for me lately B.S.”.

  19. If i was a betting man, Obama’s approval rating is going to skyrocket at least 20-30 points by the end of the week. I know momentum can swing at the drop of a hat, but Obama can ride this straight into 2012 reelection.
    Also, let’s pray for the safety of our troops overseas. I fear (and i hope im wrong) there will be some sort of retaliation from these terror cells.

  20. ” . . .Get like me. They’re about to rename the “dougie” the “obamie”. Oh, and I am about to require American’s to learn the Electric Slide. What?!!! Balance the budget b*tch.”

    so.done.witchu.

  21. I’m starting to hear a lot of car horns honking, so I guess this is at least as big a deal as people’s favorite football/ baseball/ whateverball team winning the world series.

  22. Am I the only one that thinks THEY are gonna find every way THEY can to not give Obama his props for his part in this?

    Am I also wrong that I think that a lot of people will follow THEM and therefore this historic event doesn’t guarantee Obama another four years?

        • And you’re right to. Within two days this will be twisted in all kinds of ways I can’t even imagine now.

          • I AM happy for Obama cause he really needed something to shove in the faces of his haters even if this only shuts them up for a few hours.

            But the flipside of this feeling for me was, “Okay, Osama’s dead; now what?”

            • “Okay, Osama’s dead; now what?”

              *Looks at a slowly growing, but still in-shambles economy. Gay marriages still not being passed into law (please no flaming). And people still trying to legalize marijuana in all 50 states.*

              Not a damn thing…

              *Walks off*

    • Yeah, I think a lot of people are jumping the gun with thinking that Obama will be re-elected because of this.

      Even though I usually don’t watch the news, I will be watching to see what people are saying about this.

      • Funny I wanted to see the same thing. The repubs are trying to make this a victory for W. Bush. Reps. Boehner, Cantor, and some other repub politicians all mentioned that it was Bush who pledged to relentlessly pursue Bin Laden and they congratulated and thanked him for his diligence. You know they can’t let Obama have this victory outright.

    • I think the backlash from the Right is going to be “This doesn’t solve anything; someone will take his place. He came across Bin Laden by accident. The Left are sheep believing Obama is The Messiah and this will solidify their idolization.”
      They hate giving Obama credit, but I think they may have to fall back on this one. Obama is handling a too much business to be dismissed.

  23. This historic moment has made me hate my entire Twitter timeline… in fact me and Cheekie had a convo about this, wanna hear it, here it go:

    Alise: i hate twittuh
    here is how it always goes
    big news story breaks
    folks talk about it civilly for like 25 seconds (literally, 25)
    then folks make jokes
    then someone gets all bent out of shape about the jokes

    Cheekie: it never fails

    Alise: then someone gets bent out of shape about the people getting bent out of shape about the jokes

    Cheekie: YES

    Alise: it is like an infnite loop
    pinchmycheekie: the circle of strife

    Naturally Alise, pimpin’ Cheekie’s gchats since 2011

  24. LOL at your “ninja moment”..

    I have no words right now..except to say that Obama’s walking away from the mike strut was HELLA sexy. Swagga back in full swing. :)

  25. I’m sitting here utterly speechless. This is such a bittersweet moment for Americans and especially my fellow New Yorkers. I kinda have the same feeling that I did when they killed Hussein…
    Basically its like this…I’m against murder. Live and let live right…but this dude killed sooo many people. Destroyed so many families and created such a deep and utter hole in the lives of a whole freaking nation, that its like what punishment would be fitting for somebody like that. Obviously death…and thats what he got.
    But I’m not gonna lie…I think I’m more afraid right now than I was when I knew he was alive out there hiding in the caves. I’m watching the news now and they’re celebrating outside the White House and Ground Zero is popping right now with people cheering USA! USA! and its like I just want to everyone to be quiet, be still. You don’t celebrate death in that manner..you just don’t. Again its a bittersweet victory and justice has been served.
    I’m proud that my President accomplished one of his goals and proved himself to be competent on so many levels. President Obama is officially having the best week ever!!

    • On the one hand, showing people partying about this is not a good look – his supporters can channel their mourning into anger and violence. On the other hand, can we really blame our fellow Americans for rejoicing that such a threat is gone?

      You are right, this is kind of bittersweet.

    • Then perhaps you should feel joy in the relief and closure this brings to the families of the thousands killed at the behest of Bin Laden.

    • I can respect that you’re not happy about it or joyous of another’s death. I can also respect those who are happy and/or joyous in feeling as though they got a measure of justice. It’s not cut and dry either way.

      • “Joy” is not really what I am feeling either, and thinking of all the people who have died because of him honestly just makes me feel sad. I’d prefer to have those thousands of people alive than osama dead.

        i don’t know, i can’t really figure out how i feel about this.

        • No I can dig that… I’m just saying for some, they feel joy. Many Jews understandably felt joy when it was confirmed Hitler was dead. Many Iraqis celebrated Saddam’s hanging. We don’t have to endorse their feelings to say we understand them. So I can understand how it would make you feel melancholy, while others would celebrate in the street. Just different perspectives.

          • I think the country just let out a huge sigh of relief. I def feel that and understand it. Ten years! I get all of that and feel the pride swell up about us accomplishing something we set out to do and avenging the deaths of so many for their families. It’s very Rambo, very gangsta. But I also have that sick feeling like I understand the moral of the ‘eye for an eye’ stories and I know this doesn’t solve all our problems and may even create some new ones.

            That being said; Obama should have come out like “we got ladi dadi” a la Mike Epps.

            • You are not the only person to feel “some kind of way” about the news and subsequent celebration.

              I wonder though, how would we be responding if instead of Osama it had been some white supremacist (say from Germany) that had been targeting black people instead of just Americans. If this person had killed nearly 3000 black people, would we still be saying, “I don’t know about this, this might make it worse, it might inspire more supremacists” or would we be celebrating?

              I think interpediation over the celebration is inversely proportional to how close you were to 9/11 (in terms of loss). The people who seem closer to the loss seem more prone to celebrate. The people further from the loss seem more prone to feel concern over the celebration.

              Both responses are understandable.

  26. First off the “obamie”?! <—–*Dead*
    *I really appreciate the fact that he acknowledged in his speech everyone who sacrificed in this, victims of 9/11, military, CIA and everyone involved.
    *People are worried about what is going to happen next…worrying ain't ever got nobody nowhere(in my Granny's voice) we just have to wait and see and pray.
    * Lighter note, He walked off like "Who gone check me boo?"
    *The all night party outside the White House is sick. Only in America
    Bless us all

    • well technically it’s not true…
      i remember seeing images of people rejoicing in the middle east after 9/11.
      the folks out in the streets popping champagne aren’t thinking about what that felt and looked like.
      im not blaming them..BUT…one should always think about what they do, say, tweet…
      it can have consequences…

      • Oh I know. Let me clarify, I meant the amount of people was sick. It went from 40 people to hundreds in minutes.

  27. Best comment I have read yet on fb:
    ?”Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. So it goes. Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars…”-MLK

    I don’t really know if I agree 100% that this applies to this situation, but almost all of the other comments were “Osama Bin Laden is dead.”

    • I love that quote! It makes me think that although Americans seem to be dancing in the street over Bin Laden’s death (something I find disgusting), not much has really changed, and we can’t expect any really positive change because of this incident. We may see even angrier haters, which won’t lead to any positive change, just more hate in an already hateful situation. It guess it begs the question- What have we really gained by taking another person’s life? That said, sometimes violence is a necessary evil in the creation of positive change, however I don’t think Bin Laden’s death will actually make much of a difference. If anything, it will probably set off people who were not so fussed. It might not.

      Sorry, I didn’t mean to go on and on. I think I processed my thoughts as I wrote. I love the quote, though, mostly because I believe in non-violent change/velvet revolutions, and I think it serves a warning and a reminder. I cannot rejoice in the death of another person, even if the other person is a poor excuse for a human being.

  28. Obama was straight boss status in his speech. All the haters need to fall back. Seriously, all this “GWB should be praised” is some BS. Obama got the job done.

    That is all.

  29. It’s funny how different people react to the same set of news. A few of my friends were angry that people were celebrating to which I pointed out, some of them may have personally been affected by the tragedy. People cheered McVeigh’s death and Dahmer’s death. I suppose it’s all macabre, but I can understand even if I don’t necessarily endorse it.

    Some of my right leaning friends were decidedly nonplussed, even somewhat annoyed that Osama had been captured now. They want Obama to fail so bad, they would rather that Osama run around another 8 years so it could happen on someone else’s watch.

    Some of my friends are asking (cynically) will gas prices go down. And no they won’t… nor would they have gone down if Osama hadn’t been captured. (I think this kind of cynicism pisses me off the most) You aren’t going to get an short term relief on the price of gas as long as prices can be manipulated by speculators. It is a GLOBAL market. It is not something under Obama’s control.

    Some of my friends are happy that Obama signed off on the orders to kill Osama because it defies the tea party narrative that Obama was secretly a Muslim… I personally don’t think they’ll stop thinking that but oh well

    Some of my friends are worried about reprisal over US action. Some also feared reprisal in the wake of the capture of Ayman al-Zawahiri. Some also feared reprisal when, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed. Some feared reprisal when Saddam was killed. As I recall, nothing happened after any of them. My comments below are part of the reason why.

    Some of my friends think our Defense forces and Intelligence Apparatuses will have to ramp up. Truth is, they don’t ramp down. They stay on the clock. And what people have not realized is in the 10 years past since 9/11 is that they have gotten exponentially better at what they do. And I’m not just talking about the human forces, I’m talking about their ability to coordinate and share information, and the accompanying technology. You literally live in a world right now, where you cannot hide from the U.S. THAT is scarier than any terrorist ever was. If the U.S. wants you dead, you’re dead. There is no place you can hide where they can’t find you.

      • Real Talk Tezzy… I’m not saying the Terrorists aren’t a threat anymore… and there are a number of reasons why the government would never use against us, what they use against terrorists. I’m just saying, if you are a security threat to the U.S. and they want you dead… you’re dead. To me, that is scarier than the idea of someone seeking to avenge Osama bin Laden.

    • yea,
      I recognized alot of them folks on cnn celebrating in front of the whitehouse, they were mostly GI’s.
      For those of us in the military, its not the joy of killing someone / or of someone’s demise, its the anticipation that, with this event, quite possibly this damn war is almost over.

    • Ugggh… major misinformation. I mean to refer to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed as the one being captured, not Ayman al-Zawahiri. Ayman al-Zawahiri is very much still on the loose.

      #DQFail

  30. 1. Shout out to our president for being on CP time. He was probably hoopin and forgot that he had to give a speech.

    2. How soon before Obama gets on the official “Look at Me Now” remix.”Look at me now, look at me now, I got Osama.”

    3. All jokes aside…what Obama was really trying to say is don’t think everything is sweet.

    4. Pray, pray, and pray some more!

        • After reading the comments, it seems Obama’s announcement cut into Donald Chump’s show. (I don’t watch that chit cause I hate this person almost beyond reason.)

          If he did this on purpose I will love him even more and might possibly commit to having his babies.

          • Exactly what I was thinking. He cut into the main part of Trump’s show and STILL didn’t speak to tha nation for another hour! #Dee-Bo

          • It did cut off The Apprentice- right while Nene was acting an a$$- I wonder if he was throwing a little shade to Trump?

      • he was on CPT to the fullest. but, i mean, this is his moment. he had to sneak some ninjaness in there since he couldn’t be all “how you like me now, tea party?”

      • “I totally noticed Obama was on CPT too.”

        I’d like to think that Michelle was giving him the Lewinsky treatment to help him relax before giving his speech. Perhaps they lost track of time.

  31. If Obama could get rid of Gaddafi and get gas prices down he’d be able to walk on political water. The scary thought is who could be Osama’s successor.

    BTW, I wish you all folks would stop complaining about gas prices. Here in Switzerland, it’s $8/gallon: http://genevagirl.net/?p=200.

    • Wow. thats crazy.
      I didn’t even know they used gallons in Switzerland, i thought there was some metric version.

      • I did the conversion. Actually gas was at $8.11/gallon and diesel $9.01. I’m so immune to the prices by now that I don’t even blink an eye when I put $120 into the tank.

        • $120 dollars to fill your tank?!? I think if that happened for like a week here bad things would happen.

    • Excellent point! I remember when I spent a summer in Spain and was wondering why there were more of the smaller 4-cylinder engine hatchbacks and scooters on the road instead of the SUVs I was used to in the states. When I saw the price of fuel, I understood why very quickly.

      • YES! I recently moved back to the US after living in Europe for about 10 years, and now I have to tell MYSELF to shut the f*ck up about gas prices. It was over $100 to fill my minivan there, so paying $40 to fill my car here is nothing.

        • Used to live overseas as well…except I was too young to drive.

          I pay my own gas now and I’m not used to $8 a gallon. So while it may be better, it’s still too damn high here.

          I want to see a system of transportation that is reliable so I can say “f-k gas” and take the train. Since I don’t live in DC, NY or Chicago, I guess I’ll just have to wait.

          • I absolutely love my bus card but now that I think of it…$2 each way = $4 per day x 5 days a week = $20 a week…Still less than filling up my car once a week. I had to make sure….

    • $8 a gallon? Damn!

      Here in Korea, it’s roughly $1.50-$1.75 or so per LITER….once you do the conversions, that comes out to around $6 per gallon. (I don’t have a car over here, anyway, so it’s a relatively moot point. LOL)

      • Canada is about 1.32/litre.
        I dont do math. lol.
        Sad thing is..we have our own oil here..so why is it STILL so high.
        signed,
        the gas is TOO DAMB high

    • Good lawd that’s a lotta money! But hey, $8 gas would probably negate the obesity crisis in America. Because I know my a$$ would be walking to work (at least halfway).

      • LMAO WIP, that’s just what I was thinking…
        Except I was thinking I’d have to move closer to where I worked to avoid having to walk too much

        • LOL, but you know everything has a consequence. Sunscreen sales would go up, lower incidents of skin cancer. Car accidents would probably decrease. The fitness industry would become nonexistent. Atkins diet would become a myth. Diabetes would be forgotten like Polio- damn, am I making a case for high a$$ gas?

          • yeah, a pretty good case. Spread the word about the wonders of a car-free life, and then maybe those speculators will let us have cheaper gas.

    • Don’t you have free health care? I have to pray nothing happens to me between June and August since I won’t be back on an insurance plan until then.

      So, yeah…about these gas unreasonable prices….

      • StrawberryPoptarts
        (cute name btw), was that question at me?
        yes, i have ‘free’ health care…

          • @squeak
            sorry. just saw this!
            in essence, our taxes are high. but as long as you are born here/citizen – you are issued a health card, that allows you to visit a dr, go hospital and not get charged.
            i can have 1 physical in a calendar year, but as many visits for random other things as needed. i pay for prescriptions. i’m generally healthy, so there may be fees for specialists. you are not billed if you end up in the hospital. if you want to have a baby, you can have a shared (free) room, or pay for a pvt room.
            overall, i am blessed.

            but with the dude that just got elected..im kinda scared… it’s trying to privatize things… so we’ll see. should be an interesting 4 yrs..

            hope that was clear/good enough info! lol.

        • Oh, no @Keisha Brown. I was referring to Geneva Girl as she mentioned how she’s tired of us complaining about gas prices. Perhaps its more expensive in Switzerland, but that doesn’t discredit how much it pains my pockets to pay an extra dollar or two per gallon – especially when I have a million other expenses (I see you Citibank, HMO, GEICO, AT&T, Amex…).

          • I dunno how it works in Switzerland or Canda, but in Sweden we pay 30% of our income in taxes, and the taxes pay for social services (medical care is one of those). From what I gather from my friends here in the US, they end up paying about the same in taxes and insurance (and whatever else they take from your check here). I think the main difference is that if I lose or quit my job I don’t lose medical care. No matter what heppens in my life, I can see the doctor. We have to pay for prescriptions, but only $300 a year, so once you’ve paid $300, the rest of the scripts are free. If you have a chronic condition you can ask the government for money to help you cover the added costs. We have co-pays of about $20, but once you’ve paid $150, the rest of the year is free. And the year for prescriptions and doctor visits begins with your first appointment after you free card expires. So, for example, if I have a card from March 2008, I have until March 2009 to pay the maximum. If I don’t see a doctor again until September 2009, then a new year begin from that September. Things are different in the UK, but they are close enough that I won’t get into their policies. I love universal healthcare and could ramble on and on for ages about it, so I’ll stop now. You’re welcome (for stopping, I mean). :D

  32. I don’t know how to feel. I support my/our President and appreciate all that it takes for him to do the job (sn: Friday morning he was in my state getting a first hand look at storm damage, apparently taking calls from the military about osama, and preparing to hand tonald drump his @$$). I hope with this troops will come home in droves….I hope.

  33. As far as political theater goes, Obama is like Derrick Rose dropping 39 points against the Pacers…no stopping his drive to the hoop. I feel like the timing of it is associated with the re-election but I can’t hate on it because Saddam Hussain’s snatching out of the rabbit hole was done about the same way. I support Obama’s re-election so I can only admire how it will be orchestrated.

    Outside of politics, the way americans are celebrating isn’t inherently a bad thing but it will be very much misinterpreted. I can see the media coverage of the celebration being used as propaganda in a madrassa on the other side of the earth. Bin Laden’s death won’t atop the movement, it will just create a power vacuum for someone a bit more extra to step in. In a war of ideologies, the players are interchangeable but the games continues the same. It is still violent force being used to effect change (control).

    • The same way others celebrating the murder of Americans was propagandised in the US? Were they grossly misinterpreted too?

      Sorry, but I can’t see how the celebrating of someone’s murder can ever be a good thing, or even an okay thing. Someone has been killed by another human being. That someone was responsible for the deaths of 1000s of people, but that doesn’t make celebrating his murder acceptable. Now if he had had a heart attack and died, that’d be another story, but he didn’t.

  34. OBAMA MADE THE CALL,

    OBAMA TOOK THE RISK and HE IS ENTITLED TO THE REWARD.

    If those troops had failed, then Obama would have been blamed for making the call.
    If Bush had made such a call and succeeded there would be little hesitation to credit him.

    Obama, in spite of some of your feelings, deserves credit for his role as leader in this instance for this particular issue.

    Anything less is simply prejudice and displaced hate (from Haters)

    Congrats OBEEZY!!!!!

  35. I imagine dude was living in a mansion with a “The world is Yours” globe in the living room…I bet the shootout went down like the end of Scarface

    • Hell no it didn’t go down like scarface…I can almost guarantee that he was so scared he s.h.i.t on himself. All these folks that make a career out of making other people kids blow themselves up for no reason are COWARDS….a la Saddam in a cave!

  36. I’m a doubting Thomas. Osama was known to have clones all over the damn place. They better DNA the hell out of him, and put it up in some museum!

    Lawwwd knows this man and his allies have caused heartache and pain across the world, not just in the U.S!

    • Forgot to add, I am jamming to Jeezy’s My President is Black!!! I hope Trump and his wig will not talk for at least a week!

    • Yeah, apparently, Osama has been dead for a week, but they had to run DNA tests galore and confirm that it was him. Now they know for sure.

    • “They better DNA the hell out of him”

      They already did. Obama is smart enough to know that his every move and decision will be challenged. So, I doubt that he would risk credibility by not dotting I’s and crossing T’s.

      • You are absolutely right. According to the news reports I heard this morning, Pres. O refused to make the announcement until DNA results confirmed that it was, in fact, Osama Bin Ladin.

  37. I could write 20 page pper right now on my thoughts/feelings of this news but i’ll reserve them to myself and just keep it light:

    1)POTUS walk off was slick

    2)Trump got trumped!! first obama released birth certificate, then called him out in public sat night then for fatality, he drops world biggest news during the apprentice lmao

    3)By tuesday we will all be tired of this news, bc every news station will be OD’ing on this news for next week

    4)gas is still going be $4/gallon tomorrow smh

    5)who is going collect that $25mil reward that was on osama bin laden’s head?? someone is about to COME UP!!

    6)Obama has already won 2012 election, he showed birth certificate and worlds #1 “terrorist” was killed on his watch. how can any republican/teabagger top that? CHECKMATE

    7)I know Michelle is going give Obama the world;s best head/sex tonight!!LMAO

    • 8)what slick shyt will sarah palin and teabaggers say? i know they pissed bc they gotta give Obama his props

      9) the FUNNIEST TWEET on my TL tonight regarding whote ppl celebrating outside the white house: “RT @toybox: Malia and Sasha got school tomorrow and y’all n-ggaz outside the crib actin a fool”

    • #4- Hello. Gas probably going to go up because the speculators are going to predict disruptions (or some BS to rationalize why gas is high as hell).

    • “5)who is going collect that $25mil reward that was on osama bin laden’s head?? someone is about to COME UP!!

      This is the truly unfortunate aspect of all of this. If some private defense firm or individual had gotten Bin Ladin, then they collect $25 million. If members of the U.S. armed forces gets Bin Ladin, then collect your regular paycheck and hear the Commander in Chief say “Good Job.” Fairness is not to be found.

  38. This whole thing is a bit surreal to me. I was a senior in high school when the 9/11 attacks occurred, I had male friends turning 18 and registering for the draft and enlisting at the time, so to watch this news tonight has been….just strange. What I will say is:
    #1 – mad love, prayers and respect to the NYC, DC and PA victims and their loved ones.
    #2 – mad love, prayers and respect to our armed forces serving at home, abroad and the families they leave behind in order to serve and protect, our intelligence agencies, national security advisors and commander-in-chief (speaking of which…)
    #3 – President Obama’s speech hit all the right notes, touched on all the correct topics, had exactly the right tone and he did a tremendous job delivering it (which leads me to saying….)
    #4 – watching him turn and walk away from the podium was the coldest thing I’ve ever seen on live TV.

    Mdm Z does the Obamie as she falls asleep. God Bless all of y’all fellow readers and posters, all citizens of this nation and all of our brothers and sisters across the world. May this lead to peace not more devastation, reconciliation not more division and closure to this enduring trend of polarization.

  39. So the fear of retaliation is real but on the other hand were we supposed to do nothing after 9/11 because the terrorists might strike back?

  40. My feelings are pretty close to Phidelity15′s and CurlyTop’s. Initially I was stunned by the news. Then I was deeply perplexed by the people celebrating. Then I burst into tears because instantly I was back on an elite campus in upper Manhattan having a horrible day, horrible year. Far enough away and too close. Thought of all the people around me that day that will not have their loved ones resurrected by this death. Then thought the same of all the military families who’ve lost someone.

    Now that I’ve done some reading here, maybe Obama just sealed his re-election.

    I’m not gon think about martyrdom though. I left terror in 2001 with the military planes scaring the sh!t outta me by breaking the eery quiet in the dead skies over the loudest city oin this country.

  41. As a prior vet and someone who had a direct involvement with deploying troops and equipment overseas directly after 9/11, I’m glad to hear tha news. Trump’s campaign and anyone else who runs against Obama is already over. But I’d like to see pics, body and DNA test results before I’m completely sold. #I’mjustsayin

    • It seems like they’ve gone out of the way to state there is physical evidence (how and why he got shot, DNA testing of the sister, how the body was disposed) but I’m guessing it may start an uproar (more than what will come already) if they actually displayed photos of a body. I’m not sure what else can be done.

      • Well the body was buried at sea…so…
        The best folks can hope for is seeing pics of the dead body, which I don’t even want to see. Ya’ll let me know how mangled up he is.

          • They said (“they” being whoever was talking on Good Morning America) that they ordered him to surrender, he didn’t, and they are trained to shoot for the head, in case there is a trigger on the body, and shoot twice.

    • “But I’d like to see pics, body and DNA test results before I’m completely sold.”
      I’m with you.

  42. Let’s not forget the bigger picture….Yeah, we got Public Enemy #1 (No Diddy), but there are still thousands of our nation’s finest (as well as several dozen people I’ve personally served with already) still stationed over in the Middle East. And a place where I myself could end up one of these days.

    I hope “sh*t just didn’t get real”, as Kevin Hart would say.

    It ain’t over until we’re all home safely.

  43. Surely you meant “Osama gone, that ninja dead” right?

    Anyone that has video of Obama walking off after his speech, I’d love the footage…

  44. “I proved I’m American, b*tched Trump in front of him AND snagged the world’s public enemy #1 within the span of 4 days…Balance the budget b*tch.”

    Aww hell. I just laughed so hard I woke my 18-month old up!!!

        • Let me try to help all these “first” people out. First, that’s gone the way of graphic tees. Second, the post times can be edited very easily.

          Who knows…maybe people like the attention of being moved down the same way they liked the attention of being first. Must be some new ‘gangsta’ badge: you know, like how so many of our people consider going to jail to be an honorable event.

          • Maybe, but it still entertains the heck out of me. I laugh every single time, it just never gets old. Hell I might post “first” one day just to make sure it happens.

          • Don’t get me started on the glorification of incarceration in our culture. (wow, just had a jesse jackson moment with the rhymes and all smh) It’s a sad, sad thing.

            • Don’t get me started on the glorification of incarceration in our culture…
              Sponsored by: Taking one for the homies. “I didn’t snitch, now I’m RayRay’s b*tch! ;)

            • click the orange name(Sagey Bear) and tell me who had a Jesse Jackson moment.
              I want somebody that can tell me what I meant. Cause I almost don’t think I know.

  45. top notch post man…

    thoughts:

    i was trying to stay up but i missed the speech of the video *i read the text*…

    oh if anyone is looking for that obama pic… http://i56.tinypic.com/21mublx.jpg #NewFacebookProfilePic

    part of me is happy. Not “joyous” happy, as in “Yee Haw we finally caught that Bin-Laden!” *imagine in an Arkansasian drawl*… because i dont believe in celebrating the killing of another.

    but i’m happy that in a way, justice for the 3000 folks that died 10 years ago, and the countless others who were affected by the fallout, was served. for them.

    and i’m happy for the Pres, who pretty much pulled a trump move for the 2012 election. Pun intended.

    and part of me is…for a better word…Cautious. because as a history major, i know that the US, or Western Europe doesn’t necessarily have the cleanest hands when dealing with other countries/ethncities. i’m cautious because, as was noted, OBL will be a martyr, and you’ll possibly have folks trying to take revenge on the President, or on certain cities in America *cough*NYC*cough.

    as an anime head, i’m sure there is some Naruto phrase on war from Pein that would fit…something like this:
    “”We are just ordinary people driven to revenge in the name of justice, but if revenge is called justice then that justice breeds yet more revenge… and becomes a chain of hatred.”"

    So while i am happy that justice was served…for the families of the 3000 americans, i hope that soon, that the root of this issue is reached, and justice is served for all, without bombings, and without invasions into foreign countries.

  46. “Osama Bin Laden Dead?

    This is merely another setup to have a covert attack on American soil by the American Government while they blame an angry Al Qaeda to put fear in the American “Sheeple” (People who are grafted sheep by the American media brainwashing machine and don’t know the truth and believe everything that the television tells them!) so that we will be so willing to give up what little imagined rights that we think we have so that it will be easier for them to push their agenda of a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT!

    Check out my video right here and let me hear your comments:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbkNqIPXEgU

    Keep Up The Great Work!
    Lance Scurv
    “America’s Most Outspoken Artist”

      • Ha.

        While I love (yes love) and support my president, I am still a thinker; not a kool-aid drinker.

        So I don’t believe most of what the government tells or shows us but some conspiracy theories are just too far out there for me to take seriously.

    • Why does it seem like the ones who lead this, Anti- Obama, Anti- Common Sense, Anti-government, Anti-any one black and educated movement all have a 8th grade reading level. They can be passionate about this ridiculousness but not about anything else. And Tell me, where were all these pseudo-revolutionaries when Bush was destroying the country.

      Now that Obama is in charge, every angry and unaccomplished, loud and ill informed black intellectual wanna-be has come crawling out of the wood work of their mothers garage/basement apartments, to find places on blogs, youtube and street corners, to resound their ignorance and call it conspiracy.

      Sure there are real conspiracies and theories but Prison educated Leroy and Tyrone are not the leaders or informers just because they found some one to teach them how to post to youtube. !!!!

      • Oh the conspiracies were out there… I think we notice it more now because it is in conflict with ‘our’ President.

    • so.. reading a couple of articles and books makes you smarter than me?
      if one mo person calls me a damn sheeple, imma donkey kickem in the shin.
      you dont know anymore than i do. unless you work for the damn cia/un.
      i’m all for QUESTIONING what you read and see…but the arrogance/i am smarter than you and you are a gullible follower sh*t? is SERIOUSLY pissing me off.
      where da people at with the stadiums of seats and ting??? grrrr….

      • reading a couple of articles and books?
        I don’t know… sounds more like he has a friend who’s cousin’s ex’s crazy father said he read this in a book. And maybe you can’t trust everything the government tells you, but your friend’s cousin’s ex’s crazy father? every word is the gospel truth.

      • I don’t think there’s anyone that takes everything on TV at face value. I also think sometimes the conspiracy theorists give people too much credit for 1)being smart enough to put these plans together and 2) for being able to keep their mouths shut. I, personally, question the ability for all these schemes to go down without one person putting everything on blast. Seems like someone would always be greedy enough to sell a juicy story or at least the outrageous claim.

    • Say what you want, but I completely agree with his thoughts on youtube.

      But in this particular situation, all I’m asking for is solid verification that he’s dead. Did anyone see him die or were you told he was dead? It may very well be true, but it’s a known fact that the govt can’t be trusted and tells the American people what they want, when they want. This was right on time with Obama’s re-election. Say he’s dead, send a look a like out to sea, party’s ova! Another 4yrs cemented in office, no questioned asked. We WATCHED Saddam hang, what’s so hard about a picture?

      • Sigh. So you’re 100% sure that was Saddam who got hanged? not a lookalike? not a fake scene orchestrated for us?

        the demand to see the recipients are ridiculous, especially coming form those who already distrust the govt. why demand “proof” when you don’t trust the gov’t anyway? as if some photos will win over your trust? how/why? sounds like an oxymoron. i’m not sure how the conspiracy theorists don’t see the giant ass catch 22 they’ve put themselves in. nothing is going to satisfy unless you did the killing and spying yourself.

        so. there’s that.

        i feel neither safer nor more unsafe now that he’s gone. im only glad he’s dead so we can move on to the next act in this story. it was becoming quite the snoozer. the navel gazing and speculation is going to kill me though. i won’t be watching televised news for quite some time, I see.

        • Maybe they’re afraid to televise it because of the effect it might have on Bin Laden sympathizers. There were lots of people who sympathized with Sadaam who became some of his biggest fans when they saw him being hanged. Made them mad. Maybe they’re trying to avoid the same thing with Bin Laden. Strong maybe though. Not too convinced.

        • the demand to see the recipients are ridiculous, especially coming form those who already distrust the govt. why demand “proof” when you don’t trust the gov’t anyway? as if some photos will win over your trust? how/why? sounds like an oxymoron. nothing is going to satisfy unless you did the killing and spying yourself.

          Ok, Liz…nice to hear from you ummmkay? Let’s be clear, I love my country but I don’t trust my govt. 10yrs AF working for Air Combat Command at Langley AFB, VA and another 4yrs working for the govt as a contractor in Baghdad,
          I’ve seen and heard alot of things you or anyone else on here who’s never served in the compacity I have (no combat, contigency operations side) can testify too.

          I’ve got every right to feel how I feel, but that’s a whole nother arguement for a whole nother day. My arguement is that IF he is dead, the govt up to this point isn’t even TRYIN to satisfy the american people’s concern for verification.

          Oh, how do I know Saddam was hung? Hmmm, would being deployed to tha prison camp he was being held (Camp Cropper) on TDY (temporary duty) during his incarceration suffice? Maybe?? Left 2 days before the hanging, but i think you get the idea. So you’re right, simple pics wouldn’t satisfy me, but govt don’t piss on my leg and call it rain. Luv you Liz, but it is very possible this could all be a govt ploy to get Obama back in office. #justmythoughts

            • not interested in goin back and forth with you, specifically. obviously conspiracy theorists have their own loopholes but never ones to generally satisfy everyone. thats precisely the problem.

              EDIT: actually you prove my point exactly. since you were in the military or something during Saddam’s massacre, you believe it to be true. seems like you need something similar in the case of Osama. that doesn’t do any of us any good though. you really need to believe with your own eyes before you will take it as truth. catch 22.

              • Awww, don’t be madd Liz. Can’t satisfy everyone. so i’ll be dat. For every arguement why they’re always going to be why not’s. You’ll call em “loopholes”, I call it “first hand experience” But if anyone questions it, I’m ready to answer what I can.

                I know I’ll never be popular here in that aspect, nor am i tryin to be. But I’ll NEVER try to push what i believe on anyone, I’ll just give my opinion on what I’ve seen, what I feel I know, why I know it, and leave it at that. If you disagree, cool. Not a nut job, nor would I EVER think I’m smarter than anyone else on here, soooo..

                Didn’t even want to go HERE today cause of this convo precisely, but i hate to see people get attacked simply cause it don’t fit in wit tha majority.

                • I’m not mad. i really am super busy with some personal things going on and dont have time to argue with you or anyone, especially about something I am so far removed from and personally don’t care about enough to get riled up over.

                  but do you see how retarded this all is my point here? just cuz YOU may have seen Saddam die first hand (or close enough) means nothing to anybody else re: his death, and that still has nothing to do with the plausibility of osama’s death. Commenter B doesn’t know you from adam….you are just out for your personal interest, as are most armchair conspiracy theorists navel gazing on this topic. the navel gazing and self righteous indignation never presents an absolute solution to shut everybody up.

                  • you are just out for your personal interest, as are most armchair conspiracy theorists navel gazing on this topic. the navel gazing and self righteous indignation never presents an absolute solution to shut everybody up.

                    What makes you think I’m out for my own personal interest? If you read up thread in another convo, I specifically said I was happy to hear he was gone. All I asked for was verification. Am I or anyone else wrong for that?

                    And besides, me and every other “arm chair” conspiracist you’ve labled, simply cause we have a different view on the situation could bring EVERY SHRED of what we would preceive as evidence to our “cause” and it wouldn’t matter.

                    IMO it’s a massive waste of time. Why? Because everything “we” know is out there, been repeated a million times and all anyone has to do is find it, see what’s been going on around you, how it’s progressively getting worse economically, choose to believe it…or not! Can’t make anyone (as you’re making my case, quite clearly) “drink tha kool-aid”.

                    You and everyone else wanna be convinced that somethings NOT going on in the govt, and when you’re aren’t to the level of your satisfaction…we’re Anti- Obama, Anti- Common Sense, Anti-government, psuedo – revolutionaries as Yale Gent described.

                    But consider this, ever wonder if you’re wrong? About the NWO, the North American Union and everything you’re too “enlightened” to consider? You’re a smart gurl, you’ll figure it out or you won’t. It’s not my job to make sure you or anyone else does. And now back to my regularly scheduled program….

        • *why demand “proof” when you don’t trust the gov’t anyway?*

          This about sums it up for me. I mean it’s the Obama birth certificate all over again. If you have already concluded that your conclusion is the truth, no evidence incongruent with that truth is valid. And that’s why bamas still talking about the birth certificate.

        • Thank You LIZ,

          I couldn’t have said it better myself.

          Nothing will satisfy their perpetual doubt and that makes them all the more silly.

      • Of course there are myriad possibilities but my guess- He didn’t pass as easily as reported and/or they don’t want anyone to see what was done to the body.

  47. prepares proposal for boss saying Twitter should be considered a news source..*

    this is the first I’m hearing of this.. in a totally honest moment, I didn’t even know what the Twin Towers were when the attacks happened.. It was one of those things that became more horrible as time went on.. The attacks caused a weird ripple effect on my life..
    Sometimes we get in our little bubbles and forget what’s happening around the world.. Totally forget that the military has been looking for this guy.. Like you said, Osama just became “that guy that caused all that trouble” buried in the back of my head..
    I know in some way I should be happy, but I’m slightly worried.. Because there’s always someone else that Bin Laden was an icon to just waiting to pick up where he left off on some “his legacy will not be forgotten” tip..
    I really need to see what happened with Obama and Trump.. I didn’t catch that either..
    Playin catch up and the week just started,
    *sigh*

  48. You took my thoughts and put them in this blog. So yeah, all of this. It does produce mixed feelings.

  49. I was way too tired last night to fully comprehend the news but I will say this:

    Obama had his “ninja” moment last night too; telling everybody it’s going down at 10:30 PM EST and then not showing up until around 11:35 PM? Yep, that’s how we do it!

  50. Yippie, Osama is dead and the election is right around the corner. This will be another selling point as to why we should keep Obama in office.

  51. On one hand I’m glad Bin Laden is gone. On the other hand I’m disturbed that a government has killed him. It’s one thing to kill someone in battle it’s another to seek out and assassinate a person. When it comes to assassinations of political figures the US hasn’t been on the right side of history. I would have preferred for him to stand trial in a US court. I don’t know if the raid was to arrest him or assasinate him. Bin Laden has now become a martyr for some and the terrorism won’t stop. Once again the US celebrates ending a problem it created. As long as the United States and other Western countries have an economic interest in that part of the world the terrorism will not stop. It’s in our best interest economically to support governments that create terrorist. Last year the United States discovered $1 trillion in natural resources in Afghanistan. If you think US corporations will walk away from that you’re crazy.  

    • This is definitely a more symbolic victory than anything else. Many people lost loved ones and I guess this is a small amount of retribution. I think the official announcements and proclamations will make him into the martyr. I wish this was handled a little more normally (a line on the CNN news strip), but I think it meant a lot to many people personally.

    • Their orders were to kill him as it’s being on Huffingtonpost. And no we will not be leaving Afghanistan, nor would we if we never found Osama (and not just for natural resources). Terrorism will not stop as long as we have 1 set of rules for some countries and a different set of rules for others. Terrorism will also not stop as long as huge economic disparities exist between the haves and the have nots (any and everywhere). It’s not just oil… I’m tempted to say it’s not mostly the oil.

      • “Terrorism will not stop as long as we have 1 set of rules for some countries and a different set of rules for others. Terrorism will also not stop as long as huge economic disparities exist between the haves and the have nots (any and everywhere).”

        Precisely. There is much more to be done.

        But this is definitely a symbolic victory for Obama. What it will mean for the rest of us is yet to be seen…

      • @DQ

        “Terrorism will not stop as long as we have 1 set of rules for some countries and a different set of rules for others. Terrorism will also not stop as long as huge economic disparities exist between the haves and the have nots (any and everywhere). It’s not just oil… I’m tempted to say it’s not mostly the oil.”

        I agree. The disparities b/w the haves and have nots and terrorism is GREATLY influenced by US foreign policy which is mostly but not totally dictated by economics.

        • Influenced? Perhaps. Dictated? No. The Saudi royal family is awash in wealth that has not trickled down in a way that I’d call significant. That is not a direct result of U.S. foreign policy. Let’s not infantilize the Arab world, they are accountable for their actions as well. We are not exonerated for our part, but we are not accountable for other’s decisions either. It’s true that poverty is fertile breeding ground for extremism, but it’s hardly limited to the impoverished. Case in point: Osama bin Laden.

        • Another large piece of it is the U.S. unwillingness to realize that the people in the Middle East do NOT want us there. We’ve been wasting countless American lives and tax dollars trying to get cushy over there and it’s not going to work.

          Our presence alone helps breed terrorism.

      • Terrorism will not stop as long as we have 1 set of rules for some countries and a different set of rules for others

        DQ. this. this and ALLLLLLLLADIS.

  52. Fvck OBL! Real talk, my dad worked at the WTC and just missed them planes by a few minutes. I know for most people, bin Laden is about a military attack on America. For me, bin Laden’s the dude that tried to kill my pops. On top of that, yesterday was his birthday. Fvck bin Laden and everything the man stand for. I know life goes on, but right now, I’m happy.

  53. A fail at this mission would have simply been that, a fail at this mission as I am sure they failed many times prior without it being public knowledge.

    The intelligence community has failed at so much most prominently in recent history Scooter Libby divulging the CIA Agents name yet it basically went unoticed because so many were concerned at how Bush was going to handle his man, but it’s implecation were tremendous as he made it seem easy to unravel the layers Agents have over them to protect their mission, their families, and their own livelihood. No one here can honestly believe that since the last year in Bush II’s administration (2007-2008) they had this information and didn’t try to get at Osama do you? That ‘ish between the Bush’s and Osama was personal and idiots don’t plan, they react hence the war in Afghanistan resurging in 2006 and 2007 to throw the scent off the fact they had discovered what bin Laden was doing in Pakastan and NOT Afghanistan. Track the news, there was a Osama VIDEO every year up until 2007……..Think about it they tell us what they want us to know. That TV ‘ish that reporters get their hands on intelligence reports is bull’ish, really. They had to go after dude and failed a few times before this sucess. I’m not saying Obama does not deserve any credit for keeping the fire burning but the Intelligence Community deserves most of the credit for this one and rightfully does the Bush’s for involving the US military in their personal vendetta.

    Last week when Patraeus was pegged as the new director of the CIA I was dumbfounded because thats simply not how it works and he is not the typical CIA type…..now I see why! I’m not political at all, but I am not stupid. Before you go giving accolades to those not truly involved (Obama, Bush I, Bush II) give respect to those troops who were used as pawns to see this through and to those intelligence agents who put in countless time in the field and in the research areas to ensure when they struck this time, they got their mark.

    God bless our troops, our Presidents (past, present, and future), and the NY Knicks, Jets, and Yankees (shoot they need it too)

  54. Some thoughts since I heard this last night (I tried to stay up for the President but I fell asleep.)

    1. The dancing and cheering in the streets is a little disturbing. I understand it; it just worries me. I can recall the images of some middle-eastern people dancing in the streets after 9/11. I haven’t heard everything, but we don’t know who else was killed. We don’t know if children or civilians were killed and we’re partying in the streets. That may invoke the same disgust many American’s felt.

    2. Yes, you can’t tell Obama nothin’ right now. I noticed when he spoke he emphasized it was a hit that he ordered. He essentially handed all opponents a \_ (ya, I stole it.)

    3. I haven’t heard the explain why they went to the compound yet. I thought I heard them say they didn’t know Bin Laden was in the place until the Seals got there and recognized him.

    4a. Think there will be an influx of recruits for the bad a$$ navy seals??
    4b. Who is the cat that actually pulled the trigger? He’s about to be WINNING.

    • For point 1, you don’t realize how deep it is in NYC. So many people lost loved ones and had their lives changed that I’d be worried if you don’t react. It’s OK if you didn’t want to see him killed (I had a HS classmate quote Gandhi to that end), but you have to understand where folks are coming from. Heck, doing the knowledge, I see where those peeps in the Middle East were coming from. People are, well, people. About point 4, I think the lucky gentlemen know how much their lives have changed. Wow. I’m not going to front on the domestic policy tip with Obama. I haven’t always agreed with him, though I knew that when I voted for him. That said, unless there are some kids we don’t know about, he can cruise to reelection. People ain’t that damn racist.

    • 1. According to the president, there were no casualties in this attack and no Americans harmed. But the scene bothered me because death shouldn’t be celebrated.

      2. Kudos to him for not announcing that they were gonna put a hit on this dude. Remember Shock and Awe? lol!

      And now they’re saying that DNA testing is underway…yet they said last night that they’d already done it. And then earlier they said he was buried at sea. Come on, folks…

        • Likely the blood was from Bin Laden’s camp (because I’m sure he wasn’t there alone and they had to get through layers of armor), but the President was referring to civilians who could’ve been nearby (i.e., not directly involved), and the Americans who were doing the attack.

  55. Pictures or it didn’t happen!!!

    Just kidding.

    I can honestly say that after the shock (and awe?) of the news last night, I don’t know what to think as far as what comes next. What I do think, though, is that it’s unlikely Osama’s folks are going to take this lying down, so I’m a little wary of the next attack. It also brought back vivid memories of 9/11 – where I was, my immediate reaction, the reactions to follow nationwide. Then I thought of all those families who lost loved ones in the attacks. Some of whom have never been fully recovered and therefore weren’t properly buried at the very least.

    However, with this news, I’m glad those families have some sort of closure. Their loved ones aren’t coming back, but this will at least give them SOME peace. What’s not giving me peace are those drunk folks who were celebrating outside the White House. Made me think back to the “celebrating” that was done in other countries (or maybe it was a Wag-the-Dog thing, but I don’t know), and how that made people feel. Um, sit your happy a___es down. This is nothing to celebrate. Just meditate on it and keep it moving.

  56. my feelings about this are ambivalent. I just dont know what it means to me and my life, my brother serves in the army, does this make his life any easier? does it bring anybody back that died in 911? is it really justice for those victims and those families?
    now dont get me wrong, i dont feel any remorse or empathy for him and i definitely have Samuel L Jackson-esque ” I hope he burns in hell” type feelings for him in general but joy? rejoicing? celebration of death? eh i aint feeling all of that.

    • I take solace in knowing that at least one leader in particular, OBL, will not be ordering additional attacks on U.S. interests, that OBL’s organization is in turmoil for new leadership (even if only temporarily), and that any forthcoming leader of opposition against U.S. interests will understand that his days are numbered.

  57. My 1st thought was when are Black Ops operations detailed on TV news? I’m glad for all the so called government transparency but it just seems a breach of security for on going operations elsewhere. And since I have family out doing the Black Ops stuff in hot spots, it only makes me more concerned.

    So Bin Laden dead…and?? He’s just a figurehead at this point. What soul killing attacks are coming to elect a new Taliban figurehead??

    You’re going to dance in the street because a dang near 7ft tall, dialysis patient is dead after be the most wanted for 10 years?? Is that justice?? Is that even sane??

    Come on, I think all this is just more government BS. My taxes are still high, ultility bills are getting higher & food prices just doubled. Bin Laden dead isn’t changing that.

    • Doesn’t seem like they tell us too much sometimes? Transparency is needed in when you’re telling me a company is “too big to fail”- not so much for anti-terrorist warfare.

  58. as a michigander… i am slightly worried.

    happy Obama got Osama and all, but um… i grew up near and went to school in Dearborn, Mich. any quick googling will tell you this city holds the highest arab population in the nation. i’ve personally heard about a number of terrorist relatives/supporters/opps being discovered in this very city, even in recent years. of course that doesn’t mean the whole city is terrorists, just like all of detroit isn’t ignant ninjas. BUT i don’t think they’ll be very happy. happy for Osama bc now he is a martyr, but um, i’m worried about the secret phone calls going back and forth to their peoples now. a little.

    someone said on twitter: “RIP Osama: World Hide & Seek Champ since 2001.”

    i’m sorry, but that was funny. lol

    • @Muze

      ” i grew up near and went to school in Dearborn, Mich. any quick googling will tell you this city holds the highest arab population in the nation”

      Actually it’s the highest Middle Eastern population outside the Middle East. I think Paris, France is 2nd. I stay near the Detroit/Dearborn border and I’m not worried one bit. They way Homeland Security is around here and knowing a few Arabs, Yemeni, and others from the region I can’t see anything happening.

    • @ Muze,

      I know a lot of people in Dearborn, and the majority of the Arabs there are Shia Muslims. Shia Muslims DETEST Osama because Osama considered Shia to be heretics and wanted them dead. As a matter of fact, the Taliban he sponsored killed so many Shia simply because they were Shia. If they’re not out celebrating his death it’s not because they see him as a martyr or because they are mad he was caught, it’s because there are other issues they have beef about. Of course, you will find a portion of the Arab population in Dearborn who are not Shia who will sympathize with Osama, but that number is smaller than one would expect.

      • ohhh. interesting. thank you for clarifying. i’ve read different reports on it and of course they publicize the negative more than anything, so it’s my fault for not researching deeper. thanks for that. i’ve heard about Shia muslims from a coworker of mine who told me they dislike Osama… but like i said, the news and papers mostly publicize the negative.

        • Word. I’m Shia and I detest Osama. Not only because he hated Shia, but he’s aided in the murder of many of our Sunni brothers and sisters. Even before I became Muslim, I hated that guy. Never bought his version of Islam. Never bought that he was sincere in standing up for oppressed Muslims. If you contribute to the deaths of the very people you are trying to protect, that makes you a hypocrite. Plain and simple.

  59. bin laden been dead. This announcement changes my view of the Prez. Things must be getting really bad for him to use this move at this point. It would have been better for him to wait until next January to put out this lie.

      • Logic and my supreme powers of deduction. Do you think this scenario make sense?

        We kill OBL in the first or second year after 9/11 and announce it publicly. After killing him what motivation do we have as a country to get behind Dubya’s invasion of Iraq?

        I think this one makes more sense.

        2. We kill him and keep his image alive. It frees up the money from congress for the MIC. There has already been a story about the military using PSYOPS on Senators. Who didn’t already assume that?

        Don’t believe the hype and ALWAYS look behind the curtain.

        • If he died like ten years ago, wouldn’t his body be all rotted by now?

          Or does the government have a giant secret freezer that they keep bodies in until the time is right? let me guess, it’s behind the curtain.

            • well if your critical thinking came up with a better explanation than the secret deep freezer, please share it.

              • Deep freezer…really?

                How about this. The only people that saw the face of the supposed OBL are all killing machines who work for the intelligence agencies of our government. It would not be hard at all to show up with a body and say it is whoever you want it to be. No one on the ship including the commander has a clearance high enough to say anything to those guys except “how can I help you” and “the president ordered me to fully cooperate with you.”

        • @Sandpaper

          The jist of my question was primarily due to how definitive your post was. Use of deductive reasoning is fine, but I’m not sure what facts you are basing that on. Just because something is logical; that doesn’t necessarily make it true. “He been dead” is a belief and not necessarily a fact (unless you have more proof than a theory). Just saying.

          • Right, I think there are any number of probable scenarios, including the one that has been publicized. If he was dead, and has been dead for years, wouldn’t the oppostion have tried to discredit the US with that info? All the public can do is get as broad a perspective as possible- if the public even cares, not just regarding this scenario but on political news in general.

        • I don’t believe everything the gov tells me BUT if he was killed ten years ago I think this would have gotten out because he had so many supporters and family members and Pakistan leaking intel in recent years and what have you. When we first went to war I recall everybody around me who was paying attention looking around with the “somebody s*it in my cereal” face because we knew the country and the republican party were giving us the flim flam. We knew it was garbage playing on the very real fears of all of us and an excuse for the agenda (whatever people want to argue the agenda was and whoever people want to pin-point was really to blame) back then. 2-day, alot of my twitter feed and FB is clogged up with people saying Jay-Z and Obama are play cousins and in the illuminati and we will all have the mark of the best by Hov’s next album drop, we’re sheeple, yada yada… but I’m just supposed to believe these people because they say so? what’s good enough for the goose… ya’ll know the rest.

      • exactly.
        i dont understand people.
        like i said..question reality all you want because it is def questionable..
        but to make a point blank period statement like he’s BEEN dead like you are a family member who attended the funeral… -______-

  60. “Death is only the beginning” you can best believe that Al-qaeda will be on that Daz Dillinger Revenge, retaliation and get back ish. I do hope that people aren’t foolish enough to believe that just Osama is dead that Al-Qaeda will just roll over and die, whatever happens next it would be wise of all Americans far and wide to be extra vigilant and pay attention to their spider senses

  61. I feel kind of stupid about this, but haven’t the orders to kill bin laden been out there since like september 12 or so?
    I thought they just couldn’t find him to do it.

  62. ObL’s death doesn’t end things but it will dampen the movement for quite some time. He was the face/symbol of the movement. Other organizations “franchised” with al Qaeda/the Taliban. While they were free agents they might be despondent about his passing.

    I expect mourning throughout the Middle East. I don’t expect immediate retaliation except in Afghanistan and Pakistan. American embassies should be on high alert just because. I hope Westerners (especially Americans) keep an extremely low profile.

    Not sure this guarantees re-election but it certainly bolsters it. I expect his team to be workin right now to weave this into the campaign. Actually, I think this takes another topic off the table in the general election. No Republican will be able to beat the President over the head about being soft on defense…EVER.

    Terrorism will be in a state of flux as several MEN attempt to fill the vaccuum left by ObL’s death.

    • I read a statement that rings very true. This shows the ridiculous power of the US government. If the US government wants to find you there is literally no where on Earth you can hide. You have to beg off all technology to remain hidden. No internet, no phone, hell no UPC codes on anything you purchase, no wire transfers, no nothing. ObL’s phone calls were monitored a few years back until some news outlet published a story saying that the US intelligence community was monitoring his calls, he then tossed the Sat phone.

      If you hide in the Crescent of Instability (North Africa to SE Asia) that makes you harder to find but they found him in the middle of it.

  63. He’s dead, but a bigger victory would be for the U.S. to stop building these “masterminds,” dictators, etc, that eventually become our enemies in the first place. People forget that Osama was financed, trained, and armed by the CIA.

    And he’s just one among many (Pinochet, Noriega, Hussein, etc).

  64. My brother called me just before I went to bed to tell me to turn to CNN. I proceeded to cuss him and threaten him in the case that this was something stupid.
    A few thoughts:
    1) I’m glad but at the same time I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop. Ignorance is bliss, my a*s.

    2) My president has the.smoothest.walk.ever. I had half a mind to wear an Obama t-shirt to work today just based off that speech and walk alone (these folks might have fired me though…I live in Bush Country). I have been dying laughing at the number of people that said Obama went back to the Oval Office and hit his dougie.

    3) My brother called back to say “Michelle better not hide his cigarettes tonight. Give that man his menthol, he deserves it.” < *sigh* The things college students say. Really puts things in perspective doesn't it.

    4) The amount of stupidity I read on my newsfeed as this happened was astounding. I wish some of the people on my newsfeed would just throw their pc's out the window. They killed that moment for me.

  65. There are so many moving parts to this event, so many things to consider, so many implications, and so many potential outcomes. Objectively, I’m intrigued. It’s playing out like a Clancy or a Ludlum novel. As an American, however, I am concerned.

    1. Bin Laden was found in Pakistan, not Afghanistan. Already, Afghan leaders are attempting to shift blame. What effect will this have on the already tense relations between the US and Pakistan?

    2. What effect will this have on terror cells around the world? Will they be discouraged or encouraged by this?

    3. With Osama on the run for years, I’m fairly certain that a plan for succession was put into place. Who will be the next leader?

    4. How will the varying groups within the Muslim world embrace this news? It was very tactful and intelligent for the US to adhere to Muslim traditions and bury his body in one day. No need to fan the flames any further. However, with such a hurried burial, is there not a window open for refutations of the claim of his death?

    5. What effect does this have in our presence in Afghanistan? Will we finally begin to draw down en masse? Do we relinquish more control to the Afghan government?

    I am very interested in seeing how this story develops.

    PS. Congrats to Obama. He gave the executive order to commission the attack. But before we shower him with praise, let us take some time to congratulate the unnamed men and women who really made this possible. The intelligence gatherers, the strike team, etc.

    • “Bin Laden was found in Pakistan, not Afghanistan.”

      say it again and say it louder. my immediate questions are:

      1. did the previous administration know this and use it as a ruse to invade afghanistan? afghanistan, after all, has a lot of minerals could be important to maintaining our economic and military superiority.

      2. how does bin laden post up for 6 years as a supposed dialysis patient in a populated part of pakistan, in a city with a regular hospital and a military hospital without anyone knowing he’s there? that is to say: i suspect pakistan knew all along.

      3. what do we do to pakistan now since it seems like they’ve been giving him cover, possibly lying about it, and receiving a grip of U.S. aid in the interim.

      4. what do we do to afghanistan now that we’ve made a mess of its infrastructure, tribal region, and government? we’ve deemed karzai unworthy and fear the taliban’s rise (which is a bit of a non-issue for me. let other afghans settle that fight. the taliban’s goal was never to defeat the west. it was to control afghanistan and impose an islamic government.

      • This makes Pakistan look very bad. At the worst, they harbored an international fugitive. At best, they were extremely negligent in their own counter-terrorism efforts.

        I don’t think they are to be trusted. We’ve given them billions, and they have clearly squandered that money. Not just with Bin Laden, but with the growing level of terror cells being found in the country. (the drone strikes hitting civilians doesn’t help either)

        I’m not as worried about terrorism as I am other issues facing this county. The only existential threat we have in this country comes from within.

        • Isn’t Pakistan just as trustworthy as we are as a country? Or any country? I’m not refuting what you have added but just putting that out there.

          • As an American, I don’t find it a stretch to say that I trust the US more than Pakistan. At some point, my interest overlaps with the interest of the country. This probably untrue of Pakistan.

            Trustworthiness is relative.

      • India has already started with the shots fired at Pakistan for harboring Bin Laden. I can definitely see India using Osama being found in Pakistan as leverage in an attempt to sway the world’s opinion of the country.

        • Not to mention how this will affect the region of Kashmir. They’re already fighting for independence from India. This will definitely sway public opinion of Pakistan since it is Kashmir’s biggest supporter.

          • I completely forgot about this consideration. I’m not sure what will happen with Kashmir’s fight for sovereignty, but this event will certainly play a role.

  66. Yes it is great that bin Laden is dead. His death may bring some closure to victims of his atrocities. But as the saying goes, “one monkey don’t stop no show.” Just because bin Laden is dead does not mean his legacy of violent jihad won’t continue. Bin Laden’s death may be a political victory for President Obama, but it also signals the increased attention his administration will have to pay to other terrorist threats real or perceived. The death of bin Laden — even if it is only symbolic — is a victory. I just wonder how long will we remain victorious and triumphant when terrorism itself is not dead. I wonder how long will remain jubilant when terror threats are foiled everyday, and all it takes is for one glitch in the system to put hundreds, thousands, or even millions of lives at risk. I wonder how long we will rejoice in the death of a man who’s preachings and teachings live on to a group of young Muslims waiting to be radicalized, waiting to create their own legacy, waiting to step out of Osama’s shadow, waiting to come out of the wings and stand center stage putting the world on notice that they will be worse than what we witnessed before.

    http://changecomesslow.com/2011/05/02/waiting-in-the-wings/

  67. They’re about to rename the “dougie” the “obamie”.

    Last night, when we were all waiting for Obama to come out, I said on Twitter, Obama should come out crip walkin talmbout “Look at me now b*itches”

    the alternative being,

    Come out with a broadway dance ensemble singing “Can you, feel a, brand new DAYYYYY!!!!” from the Wiz

    Love WH Correspondents dinner video.. the best one I ever seen.. Obama in the mirror at home flexin and sh*t like “Marcy son, what!!!!!” lol

  68. Someone made this comment on another blog and I didn’t want to paraphrase it so I just copy and pasted it…

    you guys need to read up on the Navy Seals Team Six that conducted the operation. They are literally hand picked from the best. The compound only housed roughly 50-60 people with the majority being woman and children. 20-25 special forces troops can easliy get in and get out with what they want without any casualties. Regardless of what your opions may be Osama was without a doubt responsible for the deaths of many americans ( men, women, children). We are not dragging his dead body down the street or holding his severed head for the world to see. We are celebrating this man’s death b/c of what he has done to US as Americans…They took pics and DNA samples that i am sure to be released, and why would they bury him???? So the grave can become a shrine?? He is at the bottom of the ocean which is where he belongs. God Bless all of his victims and their families. and may Osama rot in hell ……

    …Just offering yet another perspective.

    • Maybe some of y’all have already Googled this so I don’t have to. Was this luck or did they go there knowing bin Laden was a target? The news this morning made it sound like a lucky accident. Also they made it sound like several people were killed.

      • From what I’ve been hearing and reading they knew who the target was. They were trailing one of his couriers since August and they recently gathered enough info to place OBL’s dingy looking a** at the mansion which was next door to a police facility.

      • from what i heard on the news, they strongly suspected he was there. i mean, who else would live in such a secure compound and have two of bin laden’s trusted courier’s going in and out? but they didn’t know for sure because they had never seen him.

  69. I’m happy the man is dead and I’m happy for Obama. We all know he needed this. The man gets crucified for everything he does. I’m happy he’s our President and would vote for him all over again. He’s not perfect but relatively speaking, he’s doing a good job. It sucks that you have to kill a man to get street cred but such is life. lol On a serious note, I’m really worried for our troops. I don’t think many people truly understand how serious this is. We took down their leader and there will be hell to pay. I am going to put my faith in the CIA that they will protect us and the troops. I also hope people don’t start targeting Muslims. I’m glad Obama slipped that message in at the end because you know people can be ignorant. Overall, yay America but the saga continues. We won’t ever win the war on terrorism as it will probably go on forever. I’m also alittle suspicious as to what makes someone a terrorist. We throw that term around alot. I read American news that says we kill terrorist everyday then I read world news that says we’re killing civillians. I just hope something good comes from all of this. I’m opposed to us still being over there but I’m no military expert so we’ll see.

    • “We won’t ever win the war on terrorism as it will probably go on forever. I’m also alittle suspicious as to what makes someone a terrorist. We throw that term around alot. ”

      It all depends on which team you’re pulling for. To the English The Sons of Liberty and the founding fathers were terrorists/insurgents. To Americans they were freedom fighters. It all depends on your world view but I think OBL is a terrorist in most people’s books.

  70. I normally don’t comment on things like this. I am a Muslim and whenever us Muslims make comments about extremists, people are usually skeptical and think we are lying and that our condemnation is insincere. I’m not going to sit here and try to prove that Bin Laden did not represent Islam as a whole and that most of his actions were strongly condemned and criticized by the majority of Muslim scholars and people, be they Sunni or Shia. Yes, he had sympathizers, but the majority of the Muslim population hated him. Why? Because, let’s face it, Bin Laden killed as many Muslims as he did non-Muslims, perhaps even more. The atrocities committed by the Taliban against their very own are astounding, and Allah (yes, I said Allah. Don’t be scared) will take care of that. I’m also not going to sit here and remind you that the very people who killed him were the very people who supported him during the 1980s when he was fighting against the Soviets.

    What I am going to say is that the majority of the Muslim world warned advisers that Bin Laden was in Pakistan. The very same country we spent billions of dollars on during the war on terror. Why did it take ten years, thousands of soldier lives, Iraqi and Afghan civilians, and billions of dollar spent to catch this guy? Why did we have to go through two freaking wars for this to happen in a country that was our “ally”? That is ultimately what led to more and more sympathizers for this lunatic. Just like with Sadaam Hussein. They killed him on Eid, a Muslim holiday, and you wonder why some might perceive him as a martyr. The point of this diatribe is not to blame anyone. It’s to put things in perspective: if we don’t fight the right enemies, we will continue to make new ones. And it will be us, the people, who will suffer. Not the politicians or “clerics” who fan the flames.

    • Your first paragraph is something that I think stands out to many Americans. We frequently here about bombings going on in that part of the world killing innocent civilians just standing in a market place or standing in line for jobs. Is there a vocal Muslim backlash against the violence? I haven’t sought it out but I don’t hear it a lot. Is it supressed?

      • I’m not sure if it’s suppressed by governments or anything like that. I don’t live in the Muslim world, however, I have plenty of friends who did and still do, and they all agree that people like Bin Laden are hypocrites who use religion for their own personal gain and vendettas. Here’s the thing, though: many in the Middle East hold an unfavorable impression of the USA and as a result may sympathize with some causes people like Bin Laden champion because of continued US support for some of the most repressive dictatorships in the Middle East. For 30 years, the USA backed Hosni Mubarak, “President” of Egypt, 100%. The USA has funded and supported dictatorships in Tunisia, Bahrain, and is a close ally of the Saudi Royal Family, widely despised in the Muslim world for their very un-Islamic actions. And then, here’s the clincher: Israel. It’s these practices that lead to people like Mahmood Ahmadinejad, President of Iran, to hold such strong negative sentiments. I don’t justify it at all, but that’s why you don’t hear much anti-Bin Laden sentiment. It exists, really it does.

        • It seems there is more obvious,vocal disdain for the US actions than the actions of Middle East natives or for even the dictators. Now, I’m guessing that is because I’m listening mostly to the generic news- CNN. GMA. NPR, etc. It seems like the spotlight is always turned on the US and no one else. That may be the cost of being a “boss” but it’s frustrating. I think that’s a sentiment shared on the Right. (Maybe, one day, I’ll make an effort to read more from these scholars you speak of LOL.)

          • Oh there’s a lot of disdain for the Arab nations that are super rich but let their people starve. It’s just that when America advertises itself as a beacon of democracy, freedom, and hope and it allows dictators to hurt the people. they feel betrayed. I’m Latin American, so I understand the sentiment. But to condone terrorism? Nah. If Bin Laden really cared about issues like injustice he wouldn’t be so quick to kill people.

  71. I’m not a big conspiracy theorist but there is one thing I truly believe:

    The US government has known where to find Osama for a while now. I believe Bush let him be because he needed a boogeyman to justify his “War on Terror”. And I believe Obama “found” him cause he needs this to bolster his re-election bid.

    I think we all should know by now what happens to these leaders when our government feels they have outlived their usefulness. The political gods giveth and they taketh away.

    • I hate conspiracy theories… and yet I do them too.

      If Obama needed him for re-election, why not do it closer to the election? Or, why not do it before the mid term? He cetainly could have used it in 2010 don’t you think? Why sit on “finding” Osama and lose Congress?

        • More obvious than Obama producing his birth certificate and saying, “We do not have time for this kind of silliness” and then producing a dead Osama bin Laden later as if to prove his point?

          Naw, the truth is no matter when he was caught, or if he wasn’t caught, it would result in a conpiracy theory that this was how it HAD to happen then (or in the case he wasn’t caught how it HAD to happen that he didn’t get caught).

          Everybody’s a Negro Nostradamus AFTER the fact. “Yo son, I knew they had to kill him right after the birth certificate joint yo”. No you didn’t ol prison yard philosopher… you are basically a fortune teller telling us how $h!t’s gonna jump off after it already jumped off. That’s how I feel about most CTs.

      • Conspiracy theories don’t hold enough water because of the simple fact people run their mouths way too much. There would also have to be a certain level of competency that our government has seldom shown since maybe 1944ish. His location in Pakistan was probably a well known secret their because they smelled what he was cooking. Anyway I just don’t go for the black helicopter jive.

        • “Conspiracy theories don’t hold enough water because of the simple fact people run their mouths way too much.”

          I just mentioned this above; people are trying to get paid my any means. How can we characterize politicians as greedy and conspirators at the same time? There’s as much money in telling as there is in plotting. I think this is why most people (myself included) are confused and frustrated by politics. There’s no great way for a layperson to get the truth.

    • I agree with you. Obama should have waited until the GOP officially announces their group of candidates. That will not happen until the end of this year. I wonder what he has to top this come Christmas time.

      It is all a game.

      • Look for some retaliatory attacks by Al-qaida to rally the nation around revenge again. I just hope none of them are stateside. You heard it here first.

        Oh yeah…Obama wins in 2012 easily.

        Thanks for playing

    • “The US government has known where to find Osama for a while now.”

      I have to agree with you on this. They can pinpoint someone’s location via cell phone. This man sent faxes, made videos, sent emails, used his cell 24/7 and you say you can’t find him? Naw, son.

  72. My first response was, ‘yay’. I then flipped on msnbc for more details…heard the body was tossed already. My second response was, ‘hmmm’. I’m happy he’s out of the picture. I’m especially happy for those who have personally loss loved ones in this mess. I hope their spirits are more at ease.

    The first 3 or 4 seconds after hearing the news was great for me. I’m not ready to hear the details or think about the economy or the future or even the present yet. I just want to feel great.

  73. This is truly a great moment in black history. I thought I’d never live to see the day when a black man would be allowed to go this hard for imperialism. YES WE CAN.

  74. From the Washington Post:

    In order to adhere to Islamic tradition, U.S. officials would have had to follow very strict rules for handling bin Laden’s remains. The body must be ritually washed three times, by family members if they are available. Prayers are said, and the body is buried, preferably before the next two sunsets. Burial within 24 hours is common, but is not a hard and fast rule.

    “It has to be the family” who does the washing, explained Nasser Saleh, a longtime licensed funeral worker for Aden Funeral Services in Woodbridge, Va., a suburb of Washington. “It is a sign of love and respect. You are washing the body to purify the person and make him presentable to the creator.”

    After washing, the body is generally wrapped in three pieces of cloth. At least one piece of cloth is a white shroud, which will cover the whole body. A hole is sometimes allowed in the top of the sheet to make the head visible. Ritual even governs the number of knots in the cloth and the way they are tied.

    The direction of the head is also important; it must face the holy site of Mecca when it arrives at its final resting place, and when it is laid down.

    Formulaic prayers are said during the washing. Burial prayers are said after the washing. And in ground burials, when the body is laid into the earth, bystanders take a handful of dirt and toss it into the grave, reciting this verse from the Koran: “From this earth we created you, to this earth we return you.”

    Call my cynical, but I don’t believe the US military followed Muslim ritual and properly disposed of Bin Laden’s body after hunting this man for almost 10 years. I got $5 on it that Obama and Bush are taking turns going in on Bin Laden’s body at the Pentagon like those cats on Office Space did to the fax machine.

    • “I got $5 on it that Obama and Bush are taking turns going in on Bin Laden’s body at the Pentagon like those cats on Office Space did to the fax machine.”

      I just watched that this weekend. I don’t know why they would hold the body, but I’m sure it didn’t enter the water with only the bullet holes.

      • I just don’t see how you can hunt the man for 10 years and not want to keep something as a souvenir. Its like satisfaction based upon a job well done for killing the guy after all this time. This is America, we want raises, company cars, stock options, free office supplies and sh*t for our job well done. To get him, kill him, and throw him in the ocean seems anticlimactic. Even hunters keep the head of an elk or deer to show everybody when they kill it. This ninja was the world’s #1 fugitive! I’m sure one of those Navy Seals got some sort of souvenir. I wonder how long it will be before his turban or whatever he was wearing when he died will pop up on eBay.

        • And how many people are going to be diving into whatever body of water to get the body? (Would that be possible? I suppose the Navy could block off parts of a sea…) Maybe they tried to keep anyone from desecrating the body? It does seems like a strange thing to do. I’m thinking somebody f*cked the body up and they tossed it into the water so the fish could feed on it and remove any trace of damage. It would then be difficult to keep someone from getting to the body, which seems like the ultimate goal; it seems more strange the more I think about it

          • It’s apart of islamic ritual, I read. If no country is willing to store or bury the body then it gets dumped at sea within 24 hours.

  75. I’m reflective. I appreciate the jokes and satire e.g. Osama was the hide and go seek champion of the world. I recognize that this is an accomplishment for the Obama administration. I know that the war on terror isn’t over.

    As for 9/11, I feel no peace from this announcement. It was a traumatic experience for the US and opened my eyes to a reality that many people outside of the “developed” world feel. Safety is tenuous and having the biggest, strongest military does not stop extremists. I respect the service of the armed forces, but I also acknowledge the lives of so many people both American and not lost in battle. The fact that I got used to hearing xyz people were killed in another suicide bombing or drone attack does not make me comfortable at all. Terror is a norm now. The pure chaos that erupted in DC on 9/11 haunts me. Sorry for the serious tone, but I can’t rejoice in death because the bottom line is that violence begets violence. There are other Osamas out there and diplomacy will hopefully be used at some point I don’t want a WWIII.

  76. I would have liked some sort of proof of Osama’s demise though. I’m not a mean-spirited person, but it’s kinda like when someone tells you “Ricky dead!”. You kinda have a little shred of doubt until you see it in the obituary section.

  77. Why is it that people act like this is not a big deal and want to stop talking about it? Yes, we know that this does not stop terrorism and the war is not over, but OBL is dead after all these years. an we just have a moment to reflect on that?

  78. Like many of my fellow VSB’s and VSS’s on here I’m conflicted on how to feel. People have lost a friend and a family member, who happened to be a killer. I ‘m hopeful that this has a postive impact on the war on terror but fear it will be the exact opposite. When ever one person like Bin Laden is captured or killed someone just as bad or worse steps to the forefront. I pray for the safety of the many American soldiers and civilians abroad.
    I have laughed at many of the jokes I saw on the internets though.
    Oh and you know Hollywood is gonna turn this into a movie.

  79. Personally, I am feeling a mixture of emotions…happiness, sadness,

    I have a cousin who worked in the World Trade Center during that time. I spoke with her on Monday, September 10th. The next day I was glued to the TV wondering if she was alive. Thankfully she overslept and was late to work. However, everyone she worked with was killed that day – the ENTIRE office (her building was the one where the airplane landed directly in the middle). So many families worked there, and both husband and wife worked together which left their children as orphans. I remember feeling guilty because my cousin was alive while so many others lost so much. But we have all heard the stories over the years since 9/11.

    Am I glad that Osama is gone? Definitely.

    Am I glad that Pres. Obama finally found him instead of lying about it like Bush did? Don’t think we forgot about that ‘ish? Yup!

    I am sick and tired of people constantly trying to discredit MY President for everything he does, especially while he’s trying to clean up the mess Bush left us with.

    • @ Southernq T2DC,

      These discreditors are just looking for an easy scapegoat. Obama happens to be the ideal scapegoat candidate as he is: 1.) BLACK, 2.) BLACK, 3.)BLACK.

      Race and politics in America go hand in hand!! No doubt about that. Even if he doesn’t make a second time, history has already been written as:
      1.) First BLACK president
      2.) Osama was killed under his watch

  80. In one week, Mama CNotes is attending a trial as a witness to the murder of Auntie CNotes and Cousin CNotes. Although the incident happened in 2008 and our family doesn’t rejoice in the possibility of the death penalty for the murdering bastard (due to spiritual beliefs) , we would gain some sort of satisfacation if justice is served.

    With this said, I empathize with the families who have had loved ones stolen from them at the hand and/or order of the murdering bastard, Osama Bin Laden. I hope this provides some comfort to know that their tragedy was not ignored. That is all.

  81. All I want to add to this ‘discussion’ is that I’m glad Osama has been dealt with, even though it’s merely the tip of the iceberg. There’s no end to terrorism so long as there’s hate and hate is overly abundant. Osama’s death is more symbolic than anything else. His name carried too much weight and a weight has been lifted. Somewhat.

    Yes, he’s dead. I’m hearing a lot of theories regarding the disposal of the body. He is dead. The body was photographed; there are DNA tests. Maybe Obama will wait 2.5 years and flash a pic like he did with his long-form birth cert. (lol) But he’s dead and gone and now we can re-focus our effort.

    I predict that now Obama will try and pull us out of the middle east post haste, we’ll see gas prices lower a bit and he’ll be re-elected in 2012. I’m excited.

    Girl marries a prince. Bad guy gets killed. This weekend has been brought to you in part by Disney.

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  83. I’m a little disappointed by all of the celebrating in the streets. I know this is big for the country, but the world is watching. I think its in poor taste to cheer about anyone’s death. Just like it was in bad taste for any extremists to cheer about the tragedies of 9/11. To many of them, they think we’re the enemy, and that we’re just as bad. So, not a fan of the cheering in the streets.

    I am happy for the loved ones who lost family and friends on 9/11. Happy that maybe his death can bring them some semblance of peace and closure.

    This is huge for the President.

  84. I randomly posted my thoughts below under the wrong topic. Ignore it if you see it under yesterday’s post.

    My friends went from cheering last night to quoting MLK today. How did this quote go viral?

    ”I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that” — Martin Luther King, Jr.

  85. Ok-first I bout DIED laughing at Panama on this one….My fam and I were flippin channels and the news folks were talkin big about “there being a big announcement”…matter of fact, it was a bit more to it…I actually got a call from my boss earlier that day saying that we were in hightened security so to be prepared for a longer wait time of getting to work. She didn’t know what was up, but we knew it “tuck your nuts” time…

    First thing I thought (and said out loud) was Mike Epps rendition of “Laudi-Daudi, it’s the ninja you love to hate”…..After I got passed my foolishness, I was like, “I know the RNC is salty than a pretzel right now..Gon be kinda hard to win this one come 2012″…never the less, I was waiting to hear the crowds outside the whitehouse cheering, “Obama!”, but it never happened…

    Some folks just so ungrateful….Prez Obama coulda pulled the trigger himself with a captain america suit on and did a two-step across Osam’s body-and he prolly still wouldn’t have gotten his props…Just wondering how long folks gon keep hatin on my dude?

    Thoughts?

  86. Truthfully, I’m still in disbelief that he’s even dead because the stories seem to still be developing. I’m a war veteran…and from the way it all sounds, it doesn’t add up. Whether he is or isn’t, Skywalker feels indifferent. What I’m more concerned about is America’s response to this information because some of these people are “Christians”.

    This tyrant was notoriously “hated” specifically by most Americans, and despised by a larger populous of the world. His ignorance was highly infectious; he felt a certain way about Christian theology and the path of the American since they were contrary to his beliefs; and like most, he acted on his feelings – misunderstandings (smh). Osama Bin Laden wasn’t the first to make terrorism popular; terrorism existed prior to World War II. Matter of fact, terrorism can be traced slithering close to the roots of slavery (no matter which region or era), and even in the grassy meadows of The Crusades. And man, what a snake, right? This “snake” took the form of Osama Bin Laden….in our eyes. It also took the form of many 11th, 12th, and 13th century Roman Emperors who supported the idea that any God-fearing man who aids in retaking the Holy Land (Jerusalem) from the Muslims will be granted entrance into heaven. To me, that sounds similar to the 72 promised virgins + jannah (heaven) that Osama preached….minus the virgins. No matter the rewards, sacrifices were made in the “name of God”. So, Osama ordered the execution of thousands of people, and in turn was executed. Despite all of the damage done, people celebrated this man’s death as if it were worth the lives of thousands. It seems that we’ve sought to honor the fallen by rejoicing in the death of our enemies. What makes us better than our enemies in this case? There are videos of these so called Muslims (Jihadists) celebrating the deaths of those they killed. So, are we them or us? (shrugs).

    In order to love thy enemy, you must be able to accept their offensive behavior, but of course, defend yourself. Whether Osama is dead or not….Al-Qaida isn’t….nor is the spirit of terrorism. Pseudo-victories boost patriotism.

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