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Once An Abuser, Always An Abuser…

...or maybe not

Now, it’s no secret that I’m no fan of The Increasingly Bizarre Chris Brown.

He makes shitty music (calling him a “poor man’s Michael Jackson” is an insult to Micheal Jackson, poor men, and lazy analogies), has shitty roles in shitty movies (The shittiest?Takers” — aka “The Screen Version Of Every Hennessy Ad That Ever Made The Inside Front Cover Of The Source”), has shitty advisers, and hasn’t appeared the least bit contrite for that excessively shitty thing he did to Rihanna three years ago (Again, I don’t personally know him. But, from what I’ve seen, heard, and read, he acts as if he was actually the one victimized that night. And, for people who think that people like me need to “let it go,” I’ll let it go when he stops acting like the one who was victimized that night. Actually, “victimized” isn’t strong enough of a word. “Brutalized” is better. For those who think I’m using too much hyperbole, please read the article linked above. Now, shut the f*ck up.)

Despite all of this, Rihanna seems to have forgiven him. Which is (obviously) her choice. They also seem to be dating now. Well, publicly dating now. And, because of Rihanna’s past brutalization, many — myself included — believe that he will inevitably brutalize her again.

But, what if he doesn’t? What if he all of a sudden becomes a model boyfriend, perfect husband, and doting father? Would the second chance he’s received from her be justified, or is the decision inherently bad regardless of the outcome? I realize that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior — and I do realize that serial abusers are called serial abusers for a reason — but just how I think Rihanna may be taking a very dangerous chance, we — people who assume he’ll beat her again — may be dangerously lazy with our thought process. How can we be so sure, so certain, that he will definitely beat her to a pulp again, especially when — to my knowledge¹ — that brutalization was the only time he abused her?

The Increasingly Bizarre Chris Brown and Rihanna’s star-crossed relationship aside, hearing stone cast beliefs such as like “once an abuser, always an abuser” and “once a cheater, always a cheater” never really sat right with me. They don’t account for any nuance. “Once a cheater, always a cheater” would make more sense if it were an addiction and/or caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, but sometimes people cheat once and never cheat again. And, more importantly, those types of statements reek of something a group of “good” and “self-righteous” people (read: people like me) created in order to make sure that people who once did something bad are forever branded and never forgiven. It’s our way of making sure they’re not “rewarded” for not being good.

The Increasingly Bizarre Chris Brown may in fact be my 2nd least favorite entertainer of all-time (R. Kelly will forever hold the top spot on that list). I wouldn’t trade a hot bucket of cat piss for one of his albums. I also realize that Rihanna getting back with the man who publicly brutalized her sets a terrible example for her millions of young female (and male) fans; many of whom will look at their situation and think “Well, Rihanna took Breezy back, so a couple punches can’t be all that bad.

But, despite how I feel about him, can I say with any confidence that if he and Rihanna stay together, he will definitely abuse her again?

No, I can’t. And, since I can’t, I won’t.

¹I’m not super well-versed in Chrihanna news, so if there are any other documented instances of him abusing women that I haven’t heard about, please let me know

—Damon Young (aka “The Champ”)

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a contributing editor for EBONY.com. He resides in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes.

  • Orgasmic Humor

    FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRST!!!!!

    PLEASE BABA GOD LET IT BE SO. AMEN

    • Orgasmic Humor

      Only time can effectivly answer that question /[skepticism] with certainity! It’s too early to tell. In any case, we do not have access to his mental and emotional state to determine the outcome. What I do know is this, the ball is in HER court. She da bawwwwwwwse! [rick ross grunt].

      [Aside] Fellas, please don’t tatt your whole body. It looks like an uncurable, contagious disease of sorts
      [Aside] If you are so desperate for stylish hair, don’t pour blonde or whatever paint you have available in your house, lock it down.
      [Aside]” Don’t wake me up” is MY song. That beat go harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd.
      [Aside] CB needs a PR team that loves him. His current one is in it for the money. No PR team with the right sense of love would allow him near a kompiiiiiyura, much less allow him to tweet.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        “CB needs a PR team that loves him. His current one is in it for the money. No PR team with the right sense of love would allow him near a kompiiiiiyura, much less allow him to tweet.”

        that’s been my biggest question through all of this. who the hell is advising him?

        • SweetSass

          His insane mother who thinks he is the second coming of MJ.

          Mamase mamasa mamamakusa…

        • Jessica

          It could very well be the same person/people advising Romney. “Binders full of women” = great call.

    • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

      Congrats on being first, AM.

      *gives AM a bacon and chocolate doughnut*

      :-)

      • Ms Pepsie

        You get a Bacon and chocolate donut for being first????? *sets alarm for 2:47 am*

      • Orgasmic Humor

        Thanks VAL !!! :)

      • nillalatte

        WOW!!! All I got was a cookie from TAC when I was first. Either you are making being first too enticing or TAC was cheap! :D

    • Pseudonym

      Please burn that picture of half-oiled down Wyclef you have for your avatar.

      • Orgasmic Humor

        hey girlllie!!!

        I like nude men!

    • Pierre

      Your profile picture………………O_o ok i’m done

  • http://www.iamyourpeople.com I Am Your People

    So Chris Brown beat the crap out of Rihanna and they got back together. Who says they can’t be the next Osbournes? I mean, that IS the Osbournes story right? And d*mn near every other heavy metal artist? (including, surprisingly, the one-armed drummer in Def Leppard) And what self-respecting country music star hasn’t beat the everlasting f*ck out a woman? (well, maybe Bonnie Raitt hasn’t)

    And how does Charlie Sheen get a pass for SHOOTING Kelly Preston?

    Breezy was wrong, wrong, WRONG. But he didn’t invent domestic violence any more than Trey Songz invented s3x.

    • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

      Yeah, Charlie Sheen, in a fair world, would just be getting out of jail about now after serving about 15 years.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

      “And how does Charlie Sheen get a pass for SHOOTING Kelly Preston?”

      It was determined as an “accident”…

      • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com Tristan

        Winning, duh.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “And how does Charlie Sheen get a pass for SHOOTING Kelly Preston?”

      How exactly did he get a pass? People seem to bring it up all the time. It’s just that, like Chris Brown, he’s liked enough as an entertainer that it doesn’t seem to matter much. I wouldn’t call that a pass, though

      • mh

        Charlie Sheen didn’t GO TO JAIL like so many other highly-paid white male felons in the entertainment industry.

        OK, reading the story Champ linked: I’m not excusing domestic violence of any kind, but this goes to a whole other level. You can’t do what was described in that police report without having a fundamentally screwed worldview; it shows an entrenched belief system of entitlement and justification for violence such that this guy would have to erase and reboot his entire personality to keep it from happening again. He makes Alex and his droogs look like naughty kindergartners.

        One sign that you’re starting over and making change: you give your victims the right to move on and find somebody else. You start OVER.

        So, yea, I get that never is a long and big word – but, considering his recent face-tattoo, I’m not seeing evidence that any changes have been made. We’re all just marking time; If I prayed, I’d pray for Rihanna.

      • Stephy

        It wasn’t just deemed and accident, Kelly insisted it was and would not testify against him.

    • Asiyah

      They’re all wrong and they’re all scum!!!!

    • Stephy

      I don’t think it is fair to compare CB with the Osbournes. We all have had thoughts about doing things we know are wrong. Most people have the self control not to do it. Ozzy did initially, but then drugs and alcohol got in the way. Once he let that go, he regained self control. Chris doesn’t have a vice like that (that we know of) he is naturally missing the self control switch in his brain. Not sure there is recovery from that.

  • http://www.iamyourpeople.com I Am Your People

    …and why the R. Kelly hate? I. cannot. wait. for the new chapters of “Trapped In the Closet” to come out. Then again, I had a crush on Arruh back when I was young enough to date him so…

    • DG

      Lmao @ “young enough to date him”

    • http://mommaused2say.com Kirsten

      Back when I was young enough to date him…you’re killin’ me! LOL

    • Orgasmic Humor

      IAYP!!

      I would love to hear your commentary on Wyclef and his speedo draws/six pack/skinny long legs, watchuthink bout that situation?

      • http://www.iamyourpeople.com I Am Your People

        WordPress is being a yamp right now. I’ll blog on it tomorrow. But yeah *cries*

      • http://www.twitter.com/think2inspire Think2Inspire

        When I saw that mess I thought it was a joke. Why, why are his legs ashy but upper body glistening? I

        • http://www.wildcougarconfessions.com Wild Cougar

          We studied the picture at work. Did some tests and analysis. Brainstormed and collaborated. Made a power point. This is what we came up with:

          Wyclef been bench pressing up a storm to get his littlechest to pop out all gangnam style, so he wanted to show off. He’s flexing in the mirror and says “hey, I’ll take a pic on my bike!” He goes in the kitchen to get the crisco, that will make him look bigger. At this point he has his jeans on and hes gonna take the pic shirtless, to show off his work. He takes it and looks at it and decides its not smexy enough. Then he takes off his jeans, but forgets to apply crisco to his legs. Just like he forgot to work out his legs. He be forgetting siht.

          • Orgasmic Humor

            *GLORRRRRRRY BOUND*!!!!!

            For why must it be Crisco and not vaseline?!?!

            • Rockelle

              Crisco makes your skin sinner than Vaseline.

              • Rockelle

                Meant shinnier than vaseline.

          • Butterflydreamz

            WOW!!! Now I usually do not post comments…But The Hysterical Laugh I just had…. almost made me pee my pants! “He be forgettin s***” Frickin Funny as Hell!!! Wheh! I just want to say Kudos to you and your work crew for that very appropriate analysis…..You made my day!!! :-))))

          • A Woman’s Eyes

            I WANT to see that picture, please! Where is it?

            • Kema

              Yes! please someone post a link

              • http://www.wildcougarconfessions.com Wild Cougar

                Pic.twitter.com/Jdsj8TOX I’m not sure if that link works, but you can see it by looking at his twitter timeline @wyclef

            • Orgasmic Humor

              Check my avi!!! :)

              • Kema

                Thats what that is? lol!

              • A Woman’s Eyes

                hahahahahahahahaha

          • jesi

            iDied. “he be forgetting shit” i almost choked to death on my pecan spinwheel. oh. em. gee.

      • SweetSass

        It enrages me.

        Haitians are sleeping on cinder blocks and eating baked beans out of the can while flicking flies away from their tarp refugee tent… while he is using Yele Haiti money to buy a Ducati.

        F*ck this guy.

        • Asiyah

          I effin’ agree! Haiti! Haiti! Eff Wyclef!

    • Asiyah

      “young enough to date him” ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    • the spook by the door

      man you silly…..

    • sincereluv4life

      Lmao, I sadly had a crush on Kelz as well back when I was……..more his steez lol. I finally hit my 20’s & realized what a creep dude is, I can’t even rock w/ his music no mo.

    • CNotes

      “….back when I was young enough to date him”

      LMAO! You will ALWAYS be my favorite. : )

    • http://twitter.com/sylquesaid fixedwater

      Please me and Aaliyah were the same age when she was singing “Age ain’t nothin but a number…” so I understand, however, I CANNOT rock with Arruh no mo’

    • SweetSass

      Ew, he called himself the Pied Piper… as if that wasn’t a pedo red flag…

  • http://www.writingsofamidlifeman.com J. Delancy

    Personally, I think they are this generation’s Tina Turner and Ike, but I can’t say that he will definitely abuse her because I don’t know. The strongest argument in favour of him abusing her or anyone else is that, (wait for it) he’s an ass. That factoid, certainly lends itself to ascribing all sorts of negative behaviours to him.

    We’ll all have to wait and see.

    • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

      “The strongest argument in favour of him abusing her or anyone else is that, (wait for it) he’s an a.s.s. ”

      LOL! That’s the better question- once an a$$hole always an a$$hole?

      • http://www.writingsofamidlifeman.com J. Delancy

        If he’s successfully asinine (along the Charlie Sheen continuum of assiness) then there is no reason for him to change. Note that Sheen is still as assified as ever.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      The strongest argument in favour of him abusing her or anyone else is that, (wait for it) he’s an ass.

      calling someone an “ass” is much better if said with michael madsen’s voice

  • http://mommaused2say.com Kirsten

    I wrote about these two on my blog and basically stated that it was inevitable that they were going to get back together. My friends and I called it over a year ago. They only broke up because “we” broke them up and if we hadn’t broken them up, they would have stayed together despite his abuse. This is nothing but a high school relationship on steroids!

    • curlygirl

      I don’t think they ever actually broke up, it just wasn’t public anymore. “we” flipped out when “we” saw them on vacation together a few short weeks after the incident so they moved their relationship from public beaches and nightclubs to behind closed hotel room and private residence’s doors. they’ve been slowly working on having it be acceptable for them to be seen together. from Rihanna asking for the restraining order to be lifted, to them following each other on twitter, to them making appearances on the others singles, to them being in the same cities at the same time when the other really had no professional reason to be there, to them being at the same party/event/club but on opposite sides of the room, to them openly kissing/hugging in public, to them now openly dating again.

      • Britico Chick

        Now that you put it that way, I think you are soooooooo right. And so now we understand how they’ve been advised by their PRs.

      • Mo

        Cant forgot the timely Oprah endorsement given to her a few weeks ago regarding the relationship. Man this sh’t really has been in the works.

    • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

      “They only broke up because “we” broke them up and if we hadn’t broken them up, they would have stayed together despite his abuse. ”

      This makes all the sense. She said after the press got a hold of it, she was only worried about how he was portrayed.

    • http://twitter.com/sylquesaid fixedwater

      I agree. If it hadn’t been so public, she would have returned to him. and they would have gone through a more natural break up. But because they were kind of forced apart, her attraction to him didn’t get a chance to turn to complete disgust the way it does for those who outgrow their abuser.

    • Wit and Wizdom

      You ever consider that “we” are abusing “her”? If a cat wants some chow and you put a chain round it’s neck and pull it back anytime it gets close to the chow, what do you call that?

  • http://www.twitter.com/mcnairian5 Fiveisthenumber

    It’s that West Indian Poon. That boy was aiight in my book. Then he hit that and got caught up.

    • http://www.twitter.com/think2inspire Think2Inspire

      In this case it is hard to tell if West Indian poon or Chris Brown d*ck is more powerful. The boy had Kerruchelalaly going apesh*t and threatening Riri on the twitter. Ladies be warned Marley Meat and Chris Brown d*ck will have you outside of corner stores with ashy lips asking for change to get a black n mild.

      • Neenay

        I can’t even at that comment lmao Now all I’m thinking about is if it’s worse to be a crackhead or a dickhead…

      • http://www.twitter.com/IluminatiNYC Todd

        Chris Brown peen is on the same level as Marley Peen? Wow…

      • Breezy

        “Ladies be warned Marley Meat”

        LMBO!

        *raises hand* My name is Breezy and I have Marley Meat.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        “The boy had Kerruchelalaly going apesh*t and threatening Riri on the twitter”

        you know your relationship with a star isn’t going to last when your name sounds like a new STD

    • http://Www.twitter.com/daperdany Kenyadigit

      Lol. West Indian poon like that?

  • chameleonic

    i really like that picture. i always feel that way after a screaming match [in my mind]. he looks like he loves her. not so much in other pictures i actually used to think he looked rather disinterested and unhappy like she outlived her usefulness and he stayed around out of habit. cant really say much to his character or the situation cuz i dont really care that much about it. its their lives; theyll do what they want. thats on them.

    personally? when someone makes a mistake/does wrong by me its over. they know its over. in my mind if theres ever a shot at you coming back you have to earn that place. theres things youve gotta do, theres a process you have to go through, you need to come to me remorseful and honest about what happened. you earn your place its fine. IF i like you and IF youre worth it.

    im a pretty callous person so you make a mistake by me, you already know you cant make up for it. leave it alone.

    as for these two? abusers in general? i dont really have an opinion. i cant imagine how it feels for a loved one to put you through something like that. my heart goes out to her and i truly wish the best for him. i hope he makes a change for his own sake.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “i cant imagine how it feels for a loved one to put you through something like that.”

      me neither

      • http://twitter.com/sylquesaid fixedwater

        It can feel like love to the ill informed. There is DV history in my family, so when it happened to me, I was kind of expecting it, almost like I’d been waiting for it. And I was younger than them when it came.

  • curlygirl

    I tend to stay away from the “once a ______________ always a _____________” philosophy because it doesn’t leave any room for analysis of the circumstances in which __________ occurred and any growth that person subsequently goes through. The guy who was incredibly selfish and cheated in his twenties does not necessarily lead to a repeat of that behavior in his thirties. I would argue that the person who makes a mistake and actually feels some devastating consequences from those actions is actually LESS likely to repeat it. Generally people who are serial abusers or cheaters don’t have any consequences. Charlie Sheen was mentioned up thread, he shot his girl, shoved his girl, held one at gunpoint, and still ended up one of the highest paid stars on tv. No consequences means no change in behavior. The average man who loses his family, freedom, and/or finances because he cheated or abused someone doesn’t repeatedly repeat that scenario.

    • Tx10inch

      This entire comment is on point!

      • Britico Chick

        For real – hands over soap box

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “I would argue that the person who makes a mistake and actually feels some devastating consequences from those actions is actually LESS likely to repeat it. Generally people who are serial abusers or cheaters don’t have any consequences.”

      nodding head

    • http://www.wildcougarconfessions.com Wild Cougar

      This

    • Asiyah

      “Generally people who are serial abusers or cheaters don’t have any consequences.”

      That’s the thing. I don’t ascribe to the “once a _______, always a _______” philosophy because I believe people change, but with serial abuses/cheaters, the fact that they don’t face any real consequences coupled and a lot of times don’t show any remorse is what makes me think that a man like Chris Brown or Charlie Sheen will continue on the path he’s set out for himself.

    • A Woman’s Eyes

      Don’t forget he also bit her with his big ass teeth.

      • Orgasmic Humor

        LMAOOOOOOOOOO!!! @big ass teeth, are they the size of an elephant?

  • Toria

    I’ve never been abused but I have been cheated on. Multiple times by different men, sadly.

    The last one cheated with his ex right before he deployed. I was in another city unable to visit bc of finals and he was scared of leaving. It was early into our relationship.

    I forgave him and we are working on it now. He hasn’t and can’t cheat since he’s deployed. But I’m scared of when he comes home. We still won’t be in the same city.

    I gave him a second chance because I think if we can get past this, we are great for each other. And I slick love him though I haven’t told him that.

    I guess I can sympathize with her situation. Circumstances don’t negate feelings just your reaction to them. Though I feel like she should distance herself. Physical abuse ain’t no joke.

    • Tx10inch

      He hasn’t and can’t cheat since he’s deployed. But I’m scared of when he comes home.

      Umm, hate to break tha news to ya babygurl. Him being deployed has nothing to do with not cheating. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. TRUST. If he’s gonna be faithful, it’s because he wants to, not because he’s in a foreign country.

      • Kema

        Exactly what I was thinking!

        • Britico Chick

          Shout it from the rooftops

          • Toria

            I get that. But where he is, it’s just him and 15 dudes… no females. I realize he is capable of it given the time and opportunity. Just hope he’s not willing.

            • A Woman’s Eyes

              There are women who specifically service military men.

              • A Woman’s Eyes

                who are overseas.

              • Tx10inch

                Yep, if he’s that type of dude…foreign country = foreign coochie

            • CNotes

              “But where he is, it’s just him and 15 dudes… no females”

              Speaking as an ex-Navy wife…..that doesn’t matter in the least. They will always be somewhere in the vicinity. But, I would worry less about “if” women are around my man…and ask myself “if I have the type of man who can’t control himself around women”. It takes an incredible amount of security and trust to be the significant other of a military man (or woman).

      • Pseudonym

        Yeah, I was thinking something similar. Plus- having worked with military people- if he’s the cheating type, there’s a BIG chance he’s cheating right now. Deployments are one big Getchafreakon Fest.

    • SweetSass

      Girl, you deserve better.

      Listen to what you just typed…

      You are worried he will cheat… and the only thing keeping him from cheating is proximity to a willing punnany?!?

      You need to know you deserve better than having those types of worries.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “I’ve never been abused but I have been cheated on. Multiple times by different men, sadly. ”

      why do you think this is?

      • http://www.wildcougarconfessions.com Wild Cougar

        I always wonder if women who always get cheated on find themselves attracted to the kind of man who cheats. Or maybe their personality attracts the cheater. I dont think either things are negative. Maybe they like men who dress well and know how to approach and talk to women with ease. Men who have a way with words. Men who win, men who are leaders in their field. Maybe the ladies give an air of innocence. Trusting nature. Maybe they seem the type who forgive. None of these things are bad. I just wonder, because I’ve never been cheated on, but my friends and family who have been cheated on are attracted to men who make me gag with their “slickness”

        • A Woman’s Eyes

          You’ve never been cheated on because they didn’t get caught and because they may assume they can sleep with as many women as you sleep with men. I dunno.

          I do think that women who get cheated on are picked by those men on purpose. Those men know he can hide it from her until he’s caught, then onto the next girlfriend.

          Men who cheat tend to cheat on multiple girlfriends, not just that one who “always gets cheated on”

          • Toria

            That’s the thing with this one… he told me. Could have kept it to himself and I would have never had a clue.

            I think a lot more people cheat than we think. Especially women.

          • http://www.wildcougarconfessions.com Wild Cougar

            Ma’am? Scuse? I don’t cheat when I’m in a committed relationship. I have recently decided to sleep with as many men as I choose because I don’t see a good reason not to. Before, I was much more….restrained. I’ve never been cheated on because I can smell a cheater. I’m not attracted to them. And I tell them if they want some on the side, take some condoms. If they want it on a regular basis, just let me know and they can be out. No screaming, no drama. Just bye. For some reason those factors have led to me not being cheated on. As far as I know. But since I’m usually friends with my exes, they would probably tell me. They know I wouldn’t trip.

      • Toria

        Damn. Good point. Y’all are making me think about a lot today!

      • nillalatte

        ““I’ve never been abused but I have been cheated on. Multiple times by different men, sadly. ”
        why do you think this is?””

        Combination of things, but I essentially think it comes down to tolerance and self-esteem. If you make it clear that you will walk away from a relationship after you’ve stated your boundaries “look honey, I love you, but you will not treat me like a doormat because of the feelings I have for you. I will walk away and it will be permanent if I know you’re cheating on me.” If and when you do find out the guy is cheating, you must, repeat MUST cut your losses and walk. If you stay then you indicate that you are willing to accept his cheating behavior. It’s really that simple.

    • Anastasia!!!

      Yeh, um Toria? Beloved (As Iyanla says), please let this one alone. PLEASE find the love of yourself and let this one go.

      He cheats on you because he wants to. He is cheating while deployed. He will cheat when he gets back. And the fact that you say that you have been cheated on by a multiplicity of men says to me that after you drop this ninja, you need to take a good look at the type of men you allow into your life and how much YOUR happiness is worth. Because you are worth so much more than this!! With love from an e-sis!!

    • Anastasia!!!

      Yeh, um Toria? Beloved (As Iyanla says), please let this one alone. PLEASE find the love of yourself and let this one go.

      He cheats on you because he wants to. He is cheating while deployed. He will cheat when he gets back. And the fact that you say that you have been cheated on by a multiplicity of men says to me that after you drop this ninja, you need to take a good look at the type of men you allow into your life and how much YOUR happiness is worth. Because you are worth so much more than this!! With love from an e-sis!!

      • Toria

        Thanks sis! I’m a very trusting person (unfortunately in this scenario). And honest to a fault with other people. I realize now that most people aren’t that brutally honest with others or themselves.

        I’m working on it. And you’re right.

    • chameleonic

      yeeeeah, when i read this i was like…..

      (._. ) <(how do i put this gently? na, its not gonna sound gentle. lips sealed.)

      but i mean the only thing i could really think to say was this guy cheated on you bc you werent there to have sex with him. thats all you need to see about him.

  • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

    “R. Kelly will forever hold the top spot on that list”

    Champ gets a standing ovation for hating RKelly! I am also a lifetime member of the ‘I hate RKelly club.

    • Aly

      Yup, me too.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

      I’m waiting to see if the women over here are ardent R. Kelly supporters. The last time I roasted R. Kelly was at Clutch- and they came at me like I had made a sexist comment, LMAO!

      • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

        You cannot judge any group of women by comparing them to the women at Clutch. Those women are a constant disappointment to me.

        • Adonis

          @Val

          The old, & ugly girls @ clutch are good fodder. Intelligent, but their hamsters are something of legend. To women’s credit overall, y’all are taking more responsibility for your actions.

          But “good” hair, interracial dating, lightskint women, & black men get those girls in a tizzy.

          • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

            “But “good” hair, interracial dating, lightskint women, & black men get those girls in a tizzy.”

            Lol!

        • SweetSass

          Val, I can’t even venture to the comment section of Clutch… it’s too wild for me. They are unpredictable in what they will be angry at.

          • Orgasmic Humor

            @ SweetSass,

            You would definitely get banned!!!! But would love to see you over there.

          • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

            @Sweetsass

            “They are unpredictable in what they will be angry at.”

            That is soooo true! One day they are mad at something, the next they are defending it.

    • Breezy

      Val and Aly: Ya’ll need to step in the name of love and let go of all this hate…lol. I kid I kid…carry on.

      • Aly

        Nah. Can’t forgive a pedophile who has the audacity to record his disgusting acts.

        • kid video

          But…But, he made 12 Play…
          # sarcasm

        • Kema

          He’s technically not a pedophile… She was not prepubescent

          • SweetSass

            Ephebophile… pedophile… whatever… semantics…

            Is she of legal age? No. He a pedo.

            • Aly

              Thank you SweetSass.

            • Kema

              “Ephebophile… pedophile… whatever… semantics…
              Is she of legal age? No. He a pedo.”

              No… he’s a phebo then. Note I never said what he did wasn’t wrong. Just that he wasnt a pedophile.

              • Adonis

                @Kema

                @SweetsAss just want men to burn. Classic pump & dump girl. So, she itches & moans about male s*xual selection, even though female s*xual selection is way more destructive, and hurt the wimminz way more.

                No different than whites who hates blacks, uses the conditions that urban blacks go through (that are government funded, that white men control) to justify their hate.

                • SweetSass

                  Chris Hanson from “To Catch a Predator” would like to ask you to “Please have a seat…”

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            He’s technically not a pedophile… She was not prepubescent

            yeah, i wouldn’t call him a pedophile, just a dude who repeatedly preyed on, seduced, and raped, er, fucked, er, raped 13 year old girls

            • Medium Meech

              True, but that n*gga shole can sang.

              • GirlSixx

                That’s Right!!

                that is why he ain’t never done time cuz he makes good music.

            • A Woman’s Eyes

              peed on them, and married one behind her parents’ back.

          • Asiyah

            He’s a statutory rapist. He’s gross.

        • Adonis

          @Aly

          They need to lower the age of consent.

          • SweetSass

            So you can lure little boys and girls to your van? You need help. A padded cell. Fo’real.

            • Adonis

              I love how you confuse (post)pubescent with prepubescent. Ah, feminist self-righteous. You need some smanging and a padded seat.

              I think the AoC laws need to be re-evaluated. This idea that teenage men & women are being preyed upon & can’t decide is poppycock. And with the exception of Texas, when the laws are applied they go hard on men, and let the female statutory electric slide on out.

              • SweetSass

                Puberty is happening at 10 years old now. You wanna sex up a 10 year old?

                16 is too old for you? Cus that is what the legal age is in most states.

                Again, you need a padded cell… maybe a lobotomy.