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On Insecure’s Revolutionary (And Real) Depictions Of Young Black People Having Sex

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Last night’s Insecure finale ended with both a bang (Lawrence finally deciding to take Tasha the bank teller up on her, um, offer) and a whimper (Issa’s couch cry in Molly’s arms); culminating a season unlike any other I’d seen on network or cable TV. Of course, we’ve seen shows where friendships between Black women served as the show’s creative fulcrum — one of which was literally called Girlfriends. We’ve also seen love triangles, love trapezoids, love flow charts, and love Venn diagrams. Issa’s back and forth with Daniel and Lawrence, while compelling, wasn’t necessarily new. And although both Issa’s and Molly’s relationships with their well-meaning but oblivious non-Black co-workers — interactions which vacillated from absurd to “Are you fucking kidding me?” — was perhaps the “realest” part of the show (and my personal favorite) we’ve seen that before too. In fact, we see it every Wednesday on Blackish.

What I haven’t actually seen before — and this is with 30 years of TV watching — is a show that literally showed so many Black bodies in various stages of undress having sex. It wasn’t just alluded to hinted at or implied. We actually saw Issa fucking and Daniel fucking and Lawrence fucking and Jared fucking and Molly fucking. We saw Black asses and Black titties. We heard the shit talking and the skin smacking. We felt that shit. And there was a diversity both within the actual sex and the message the sex meant to communicate. The season’s longest and most passionate love making scene (Issa and Daniel’s studio hookup) was immediately preceded by the audience reflexively cringing — knowing exactly what was about to happen — and immediately followed by Issa’s post-sex mirror glow-up and subsequent rush of shame. It was used to hilarious effect with Jared and Molly’s hook-ups. It was employed multiple times to communicate Issa and Lawrence’s still-very-awkward reconciliation; none better than their feeble attempt at post-workout shower sex (which, for the record, is always fucking awkward). We saw make-up sex and the sex scene to conclude the season, which can best be categorized as (back-breaking) break-up sex. We saw (lack of) sex used as a synopsis of a relationship’s poor health, and a sexual history used as grounds for dismissal. It was used to console and to reconsider and to crush. We saw blow jobs. We saw pussy eaten. We saw blue balls. We even saw a Black strip club, with realistic-looking Black strippers and an extremely sobering (for Lawrence, at least) exchange about the blunt sexual currency within the club.

Of course, sex on TV isn’t new. It’s definitely not new on HBO. From Dream On and First and 10 and True Blood to Real Sex and Tell Me You Love Me and even Game of Thrones, HBO has never shied away from showing people having sex on screen. Girls — which probably should just be renamed White Girls Having Bad Sex In Brooklyn — wields and incorporates sex the same way Insecure has. 

But Black people having sex — and having that sex run the gamut from mundane and matter-of-fact to explicit and explosive — has remained somewhat taboo in mainstream media. And a not-at-all-insignificant reason for this taboo is that our bodies are still considered to be more pornographic than our White counterparts. This makes Black sex scenes seem more obscene, a dynamic Wesley Morris explored last month.

There’s a more pernicious problem at work here, too. The underrepresentation of the black penis bespeaks a larger discomfort with depicting black male sexuality with the same range of seriousness, cheek and romance that’s afforded white sexuality. The history of American popular culture is an immersion in, if not loving white people, then knowing that white people can love.

Although his piece focused more on Black male sexuality — pop culture’s relationship with the Black penis specifically — much of the same could be said about America’s relationship with Black sex in general. With Insecure however, Issa Rae subverts this expectation, creating a show that seems to exist refreshingly oblivious to this historical context. Knowing how long this show took to develop and produce — and knowing Rae’s history and how in tune she is to our cultural zeitgeist — I have no doubt that this obliviousness was intentional. That she’s very aware of the existence of this context — of our country’s uneasiness with Black bodies and Black sex — and intended to confront and eschew it.

I believe she knew this would be revolutionary. And all she had to do was be real.

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for GQ.com And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at damon@verysmartbrothas.com. Or don't. Whatever.

  • Jayde

    I was wondering a similar line while watching Love and Other Drugs.

  • Vanity in Peril
    • Scorpiogoddess??

      Giiiiiirl that man…..is the epitome of everything body wise I like. Tall and lean and dark and yes God.

    • HouseOfBonnets

      Some are gifted that way lol

    • mssporadic

      You would if you were stuck paying all his bills for 4 years.

      His body at the end of Ep 6 had me doing major rewinds. Got me watching Season 6 of The Game.

      • HouseOfBonnets

        Speaking from experience bummy can knock you down at least 2 to 3 pegs on the scale.

      • Vanity in Peril

        Lol I thought I was the only one watching that raggedy a33 season just for him.

        He couldn’t get 4 unemployed yrs off of me but maybe like 3 yrs and 7 mos.

        • HouseOfBonnets

          Good day madam lmao

        • Simms~

          3 yrs and 7 mos took me right out.

        • mssporadic

          I skipped that season when it aired. I started watching it after Insecure. I think there is only a 3 yr difference between the shows but he looks pre-pubescent on The Game. Lawrence >>>>> Blue!

      • He was all glossy! mmmm yes!

        • Scorpiogoddess??

          Looool. I think Daniel should talk to you in real life. If he do, tell him I said he is a great actor, because he irks me.

  • HouseOfBonnets

    Can we discuss the roundtable discussion at the strip club though? Thoughts? Any reassurance? Because given the way that insecure has been so relatable to my life I feel like this is my future dating pool in about five years and that scares me y’all.

    • Julian Green

      What do you want to know?

      • HouseOfBonnets

        Mainly am. I going to have to lower standards in order to get a mate? I would like to think that people don’t have to settle for that unless they want to. Also is the view point realistic for that age range?

        • Epsilonicus

          I dont know if folks settle. I do think what we view as qualifying/disqualifying changes with age though. We may tolerate more stuff because we see in that other person our own faults and hopefully become more forgiving.

          • HouseOfBonnets

            I guess the things that people are willing to accept is what gets me because a lot of the things people mention would be deal breakers for me like cheating, certain behaviors, fraud, major secrets/lies, ect mainly because I wouldn’t want to do that to a person I love so I would think thier mindset is the same.

            • NomadaNare

              Those people were always around though

              I guess the difference is the stakes are a little higher because of the time pressure for women

              The other thing though is many people underestimate the size of the pool

              Not only does it vary with area but naively a full half of the folks you saw married in their early twenties will be getting a divorce at some point and this goes for folks inside and outside your social circle

              • Julian Green

                I think the time pressure thing is happening to me right now. In the last year I’ve had a few women checking for me that would (did) not see me in that light 5 years ago. It’s confusing because I’m pretty much the same person that I was then and I’m not even doing that well now.

                • NomadaNare

                  Its happened a couple of times to me already as well

                  Friends I had known for years suddenly became interested

            • Epsilonicus

              I get that. But if you have done those things, it in some ways humanizes the faults of others.

        • Julian Green

          I don’t know if “lowering standards” is the right word. I think that as we get older, or priorities change and things that used to be a big deal to us, relationship-wise, don’t matter as much. But, yeah, the POV of Lawrence’s friends regarding dating women in their late 20s, early 30s is pretty prevalent.

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          *sheepish smile*

          • HouseOfBonnets

            Just give me the truth so I can prepare accordingly in case lol

        • Medium Meech

          I thought any liquor in a glass bottle was balling and that Black label was one of the finest scotches on the world when I was in my 20s. A lot of people get older and realize what they thought was important at 20 in a mate aren’t as profound and unchangeable as they thought they were. I hope my taste in women has grown as much as the rest of me has.

    • NomadaNare

      I think Issa and crew have a hilariously hard time writing men

      The only relatable male character on the show was Lawrence and even still I dont know any dudes that will spend four years trying to put together an app to the exclusion of everything else (and I know many an app dev)

      The field doesnt really change as one gets older

      You do and that means you can decide to glow up and pull the higher quality guys or not

      • HouseOfBonnets

        This too! I wish we had more information on the type of app too but even then unless he was trying to get major investors for a start up solely focusing on that isn’t the way to go he could easily support himself and hustle during downtime all entrepreneurs do it tech is not exception.

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        He knew someone at YouTube or the NSA.

        So believable

        • NomadaNare

          I have a friend at the NSA a couple of friends at Google and Apple as well as a friend with Army Intel/PsyOps and a few doing their own startups

          I think it would be reasonably simple to get a video pulled from Youtube and I am a couple of thousand miles away from the Valley

          I am sure it would be much simpler for someone like Lawrence

          • Brooklyn_Bruin

            ^ Obama reads VSB

      • mssporadic

        He started a business (the app startup?) that failed. He’s spent most of that time being depressed about his failure. He wasn’t focusing on the app all 4 yrs.

        • NomadaNare

          Is that what happened

          Why was he making a business plan for Woopty Woop (LOL) if it had failed already

          I was under the impression he was using perfectionism as a cover for his insecurity concerning the apps success

          • Scorpiogoddess??

            Just because a business fails doesn’t mean you can’t come up with new strategies, hence new business plans or amending of the first one.

          • mssporadic

            Well, he said he learned that he was farther ahead than the company he now works for, so I’m assuming he’s re-configuring the business.

    • Lawrence seems to have outgrown his friends. It happens.

      • Scorpiogoddess??

        Shhhiiiiid. When you ain’t making bank no more, ‘friends’ will outgrow you

  • Julian Green

    I’m sad the season is over- I wanted at least a few more episodes. I’m glad Molly and Issa made up, and I’m surprisingly glad that Lawrence didn’t take Issa back. That relationship really needed to end, for both their sakes. I just hope he’s mature enough to not do what so many of us do after a bad breakup and turn into the wild scumbag. Remember Lawrence; hurt people, hurt people.

    Most unrealistic thing in this episode was that Kelli didn’t get laid. Malibu is full of weirdos.

    Tiffany is the perfect AKA stereotype; light skinned, rich, siddity as fuck, married to an Alpha, continuously humble brags. She has to have been intentional; somebody in that writers room was sending shots to someone..

    • Scorpiogoddess??

      Who is Kelli again?

      • Julian Green

        Issa and Molly’s big friend.

        • Scorpiogoddess??

          She is insignificant, so far.

          • HouseOfBonnets

            She’s been bumped to a series regular so I’m hoping for more backstory from her.

            • Scorpiogoddess??

              I don’t care for her.

              • HouseOfBonnets

                I feel like if they tone her down from being the loud fat friend it can be a promising story. Then again I give a lot of leeway for characters that reflect me lol

                • Scorpiogoddess??

                  I’ll give you that.

    • HouseOfBonnets

      Kelli not getting laid was also unrealistic to me lol

      • Yea I HATE how her character is being written…I mean I get it, I guess she’s supposed to be the big jolly insecure fat friend…buuutttt of ALLL the characters, IMO she is the most one-dimensional, and useless character. I feel like she adds NOTHING to her scenes.

        • Scorpiogoddess??

          She adds NOTHING.

          • Aside from working my nerves and making me roll my eyes. UGH…they coulda did the ONE truly pluz-sized sister on the show better than that. We are NOT all catty thirst-buckets who can’t even seal the deal in Malibu…like whaaaaa? WHO is she supposed to be?

            • Scorpiogoddess??

              Giiiiiirl. Me no know. Me no care. You look pretty doe.

              • thank you doll!!

                • allpoliticsbaby

                  Natasha Rothwell (Kelli) got upped to series regular for season 2 so we’ll be seeing more of her and more of an exploration of her character. Natasha was a writer too btw.

                  • I wish she’d written that character better. I HATED seeing the one plus size girl be such a cliche.

        • MsCee

          Yeah, I’m not gonna lie that kind of pissed me off. Like everybody has a dating life but her. Side eye Issa. Don’t get all these W’s then drop the ball on the big girl.

          • Yeah I find that to be quite irksome

          • mssporadic

            Why do you assume she doesn’t have a dating life? From the convo at the party (where we are introduced to her), she is dating. She has some sort of podcast, which may or may not be her job. Kelli seems like she’s doing alright to me.

            • MsCee

              I’m not assuming. She is the only one of the girls who wasn’t shown actively dating. There was some small mentions about her dating preferences but you never actually saw her dating like Molly, Issa or the bougie AKA friend.

              • mssporadic

                Tiffani (AKA friend) is married and you don’t see her outside of the group, just like Kelli.

                • MsCee

                  Ok.

              • Unicorn Tears

                Well good thing is I read an article that Kelli will be a series regular in the 2nd season so we’ll at least get a chance to see more of her dating and personal life.

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        Right, every Kelli I know is getting it in.

        Now I don’t know if they tryna put a ring on it, which puts her in the Molly camp

        • HouseOfBonnets

          And here you have found the underlying issue and potential storyline.

          • Brooklyn_Bruin

            I’ll be happy if they marry her off to some guy that would be perfect for Molly

  • MsCee

    I’m so glad to see Issa out here winning. I mean, she’s been winning…but now she’s publicly winning AND she didnt have to sell out to do so. I remember reading an article about a year ago about a network wanting to buy Awkward Black Girl (her YouTube hit) but they wanted to basically make it more “whyte ppl friendly” and I was so glad she didn’t go for that ish.

    • I’m so happy for her that she really took the time to do it her way. I subscribe to her on Youtube…and she’s been shopping her show around for a few years…ppl wanted it…but they wanted to neuter her vision and creativity. I think…I’m just…swelling with happiness for her win on her terms! It really is beautiful!

      • MsCee

        She better do Kelli some justice though or else I’m taking my happiness for her W back lol.

    • naughtycorner

      The reason the show took so long to find a home is that that some studios insisted that the lead be rewritten for a biracial actress
      i think even Lauren London name cape up and she declined

      • Mochasister

        I get tired of that too. Why can’t they understand that not all of us are light skinned or come from a biracial background?!

    • Mochasister

      I HATE it when they do that! They never worry about reaching out to demographics that aren’t white or from their culture. But a little bit of color or another language and they’re whining about how they don’t understand and making it accessible and acceptable for their consumption.

  • Damon Young

    So, I have a confession to make: I see that some people checked out of Insecure after the first episode or so. I almost did the same thing. One of the reasons why I didn’t write anything about it was because I just wasn’t feeling it that much, but I didn’t want to put an “eh” review out there. Panama and I actually had a couple conversations about how I was somewhat underwhelmed at first.

    But I kept watching the show, and it got much better.

    • she

      What do you think about the male conversations? I know you previously said shows always get male-to-male convos wrong. I’m particularly interested in the one at the strip club.

      • HouseOfBonnets

        Ditto

      • Damon Young

        They still felt quite a bit off. But I’m cool with that.

      • They felt as forced as Tyler Perry’s attempts at male dialogue and interaction.

        • Julian Green

          …I’m a little ashamed to say that those guys sounded exactly like my friends.

          • Everyone is in their 20’s or 30 at some point.

          • Nicole

            I heard some guys in real life talk the way they were talking so I don’t find the male conversations throughout the series a bit off, especially the conversation in the strip club.

          • ThatChickCool

            I second this as well. Note: Friends are in age range of 25-28 so that could be it.

          • Blueberry01

            LOL!

      • NomadaNare

        I found them funny but not authentic

        Crissle and HeyFranHey said his lightskin friend spoke like every sentence was a twitter post complete with hashtags

    • cyanic

      The pilot initially felt basic after watching Atlanta. And I was unsure if I could ever ease myself into accepting the show on its own terms. Eventually I fell for it because the universal kept expanding and the characters became more endearing despite their faults.

    • NomadaNare

      I liked ABG so I was willing to stick around through the initial retreads of that show

      It did get much better through the season didnt it

      I am curious as to what they will do moving forward as the focal dramas all involved men with which the audience has invested emotionally

      • MsCee

        Yeah, I definitely thing that since I was really into ABG that I knew what to expect from Issa’s work so I was tuned in and prepared for whatever.

    • IDK if it’s because I as so psyched for her cause I’ve been a fan since Awkward Black Girl…but I was HERE for it all the way. I did tell some that were on the fence to check out her youtube work.

      • MsCee

        Did you watch the YT series “First?” Now that’s one I would LOVE to see vetted out into a full fledged series.

        • no I haven’t. Is that a part of the #BlackAndSexyTV lineup? I have kinda lost touch with their shows b/c they have an affinity for stopping things cold turkey…it was wearing on my patience.

          • MsCee

            Yeah, I think it may be part of that. It’s really good though but I am still waiting for Season 2 lol.

            • I was way invested in RoomieLoverFriends…but they were dragging it. I was into The Number…dragged it…I was in to Hello Cupid…you guessed it…DRAGGED. So…I checked out. But maybe I’ll check back in, because I loved what they were doing for black character portrayal in scripted media.

              • NomadaNare

                I like RoomieLoverFriends it just wasnt enough for a full show by itself

                • Yeah…I felt like they were TRYING to make it so…but it was too stop and go. It was deflating my excitement.

                  • Quirlygirly

                    It was very stop and go..I got bored and lost interest. I feel like that with a lot of the Black and Sexy TV line up. They have the right ideas and can execute them relatively well but it seems like they lose focus or direction and it shows in the final product

                    • L8Comer

                      Without Jeanine Daniels, it’s not as good imo. I still like it tho. Daniels was responsible for That Guy and The Couple.

              • L8Comer

                The number reboot just started back (2 episodes) and hello Cupid reboot just finished. Haven’t heard anything about roomie lover friends

            • Kim

              The First Series is part of Issa Rae’s you tube channel (as someone else mentioned). William Catlett is the male lead and he also played a lead role in That Guy which was on B&STV. Both are definitely worth the time to watch. “First” had two full seasons and it was great – I’ve been waiting (and hoping) for season 3, but don’t think it’s going to happen.

          • Blueberry01

            No, it’s on Issa Rae’s YT channel.

          • charisma_supreme

            New series on Black and Sexy called Tough Love…. LOVE it!

        • mssporadic

          First is on Issa’s YT channel. The guy made a cameo on Insecure. I feel like Issa took parts of First to create the back story for Issa and Daniel.

          • Liloo

            His name is will catlett and he s such a great actor. I love that she gives all those comedians a chance to appear on her show.

            • LyricMeThis

              Love me some Will Catlett!

            • Blueberry01

              I love him with his skinny chexy self!?

        • Keri Henderson

          Loved the series “First.” Still waiting for season 3!

          • Scorpiogoddess??

            Now THAT was the series! Very provocative. And it flowed.

      • HouseOfBonnets

        Same I. Was waiting for it as soon as she announced it lol

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      It’s hard to figure out what is lacking in the show, other than the story line could have been ripped from the comments here

      • It falls into what a lot of TV fiction suffers from-the insertion of big drama. Most TV shows can’t pull off subtle drama so they go the giant disaster/Shonda Rhimes route.

      • cyanic

        Atlanta ruined regular TV by being so much more than the medium is use to.

        • NomadaNare

          This has slowly happened to me over the course of years

          I have stopped watching TV below a certain caliber and this means I binge watch really good stuff and then dont watch TV at all for months on end

          After the Westworld season ends this week and Queen Sugar in a couple of more weeks Ill be dry until February when House of Cards drops

          After that I have no idea what to watch besides maybe Rick and Morty

          • spacie19

            Try Chewing Gum on Netflix.

        • Nik White

          Indeed it did.

      • Medium Meech

        It’s not a bad show by any means. This isn’t a knock on Issa because she’s a fine character but she can’t carry a show by herself. It’s like if girlfriends just had Joan and a friend. She’s a straight man and needs more of an ensemble cast to play off of that (it feels weird to say that about a modern television show). The one friend and another straight man character in her boyfriend just isn’t enough.

        The crazy thing is I think the delay in production came from working in her best friend and boyfriend because they realized the limitation of a first person perspective show about Issa.

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          Like a chex and the city, Baldwin Hills style.

    • NonyaB?

      Yeah, my initial impression was that it seemed to be a watered down version of Awkward Black Girl and I found ep1 so underwhelming that I couldn’t even finish it. But based on how The People kept getting in their feels about it, I might give it another chance.

    • naughtycorner

      Agreed

    • BrownKitty289

      ditto

    • Ausar Mars

      Not gonna front the show lost a little steam and my attention but looking back I think that was due to how much the show “Atlanta” had a hold on me. Kudos to Issa Rae and Larry Wilmore who is back “winning” after they stopped his show on Comedy Central. I feel like he just needed a good counter part to help keep the show moving through slow moments. Wilmore is kind of like this generations Paul Mooney the topics he covers and the insight and with he puts with it is rare nowadays and so refreshing :)

  • Val

    I’ve only seen one episode of Insecure. It was aight. So I don’t know anything about the rest of the season. But what I do know is that Aretha Franklin is still singing the National Anthem in Detroit as we speak.

    Hiya, everybody! *waves* I hope everyone had a nice holiday!

    • Scorpiogoddess??

      Is her tittays going to be part of the anthem?

      • Val

        Oh my. So disrespectful, AM. Lol

        • Scorpiogoddess??

          Nope. Not disrespectful one bit. Here is why. She refuses and has for a long time refused to wear sleeveless dresses, that fit her.

          • miss t-lee

            You clearly didn’t see her sing the anthem on Thursday.

            • Scorpiogoddess??

              No, I did not.

              • miss t-lee

                That was apparent…lol

            • Val

              She had to be burning up in that heavy-azz fur and that hat. Lol

              • miss t-lee

                I ain’t mad though. That’s peak diva.

                • Val

                  The entire performance was peak diva.

                  • miss t-lee

                    Indeed.
                    And that’s why I loved it. You don’t see it much anymore.

                  • Nik White

                    5 minutes for a 2 minute song.

                  • Mochasister

                    Auntie Ree Ree said, “I’ma show these heathens…”

          • Val

            She’s old, AM. She doesn’t have any fcuks to give. Besides that, I’m not willing to check other women when it comes to how they hide or not hide their boobs.

            • Scorpiogoddess??

              Val. It’s not about hiding boobs. Could care less. Show them if you want. I just hate how she looks in those sleeveless dresses and gets meme”d all the time.

              • Val

                I hear you but she’s not responsible for those memes.

                • Scorpiogoddess??

                  True dat.

                  Will have to disagree to agree on this one though my darling Val. I did not disrespect her. All I did was shade her.

        • HouseOfBonnets

          She did that to herself in that seafoam gown with no support lol

          • Nik White

            Lawd it was a gown?!? I just caught a snippet of it.

            • HouseOfBonnets

              When she did that rolling in the deep cover yup lol

          • Val

            I missed that one, HOB.

            • HouseOfBonnets

              Val, Val, you have to see this https://youtu.be/3k5acPIi0f8

              • Val

                Welp, that’s Aretha being Aretha. Lol

              • Negro Libre

                Looks like you have to be 60 to get in the band lol jk.

                • HouseOfBonnets

                  Cissy Houston gets me every time lol

    • TeeChantel

      Hi Val! I had a nice Thanksgiving break. How was yours?

      • Val

        Hiya, Tee! It was fun. We went to the beach!

        • TeeChantel

          Jealous! I could use a beach day right about now.

    • Mochasister

      Lol! Leave Auntie Ree Ree ‘lone! She got to shine bright like a diamond!

  • blueevey

    Apparently, some guy I went to high school with is on the show. . . Brandon scott

    • Unicorn Tears

      That’s funny, I went to undergrad with Molly’s co-worker’s fiancé.

  • Brandon Allen

    Insecure is sooo LA. That’s my favorite part. It’s definitely hitting those inside points like Atlanta does for the ATL.

  • I checked out after the pilot but conversation around social media compelled me to try again. It’s…better. I don’t know if I really like any of the characters outside of the bank jawn. Like with Atlanta there is something to just seeing, normalized black. Issa wearing a shirt, you would see on any HBCU campus or conversations that feel authentic (the blood on insecure is ridiculous but his timing is so good I’ll allow it), and to the point of the post, just black secks. No Jodeci and cutaways…just funny faces and arches (I haven’t seen the finale but I did see a pic and…again, Bank Bae is my favorite). It seems sad to get to a point where we can see normalized black but I’ma enjoy it while it lasts….we took the 90s for granted and it was done before we could say CW and Bones.

    • Val

      Yeah, we’re definitely in a golden era of Black representation in TV and film that are produced by Black folks.

    • Val

      Have you seen People of Earth on TBS starring Wyatt Cenac?

      • Quirlygirly

        I was trying to catch it but I forgot what time day and time it comes on. How is it?

        • Val

          Not sure when it comes on. I have Sling and it allows you to binge watch some shows. It’s interesting. It’s kind of outlandish but they always bring it back before it goes off the rails. I particularly like Wyatt’s character though.

    • TeeChantel

      Nice avi, Tristan.

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