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On Insecure’s Revolutionary (And Real) Depictions Of Young Black People Having Sex

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Last night’s Insecure finale ended with both a bang (Lawrence finally deciding to take Tasha the bank teller up on her, um, offer) and a whimper (Issa’s couch cry in Molly’s arms); culminating a season unlike any other I’d seen on network or cable TV. Of course, we’ve seen shows where friendships between Black women served as the show’s creative fulcrum — one of which was literally called Girlfriends. We’ve also seen love triangles, love trapezoids, love flow charts, and love Venn diagrams. Issa’s back and forth with Daniel and Lawrence, while compelling, wasn’t necessarily new. And although both Issa’s and Molly’s relationships with their well-meaning but oblivious non-Black co-workers — interactions which vacillated from absurd to “Are you fucking kidding me?” — was perhaps the “realest” part of the show (and my personal favorite) we’ve seen that before too. In fact, we see it every Wednesday on Blackish.

What I haven’t actually seen before — and this is with 30 years of TV watching — is a show that literally showed so many Black bodies in various stages of undress having sex. It wasn’t just alluded to hinted at or implied. We actually saw Issa fucking and Daniel fucking and Lawrence fucking and Jared fucking and Molly fucking. We saw Black asses and Black titties. We heard the shit talking and the skin smacking. We felt that shit. And there was a diversity both within the actual sex and the message the sex meant to communicate. The season’s longest and most passionate love making scene (Issa and Daniel’s studio hookup) was immediately preceded by the audience reflexively cringing — knowing exactly what was about to happen — and immediately followed by Issa’s post-sex mirror glow-up and subsequent rush of shame. It was used to hilarious effect with Jared and Molly’s hook-ups. It was employed multiple times to communicate Issa and Lawrence’s still-very-awkward reconciliation; none better than their feeble attempt at post-workout shower sex (which, for the record, is always fucking awkward). We saw make-up sex and the sex scene to conclude the season, which can best be categorized as (back-breaking) break-up sex. We saw (lack of) sex used as a synopsis of a relationship’s poor health, and a sexual history used as grounds for dismissal. It was used to console and to reconsider and to crush. We saw blow jobs. We saw pussy eaten. We saw blue balls. We even saw a Black strip club, with realistic-looking Black strippers and an extremely sobering (for Lawrence, at least) exchange about the blunt sexual currency within the club.

Of course, sex on TV isn’t new. It’s definitely not new on HBO. From Dream On and First and 10 and True Blood to Real Sex and Tell Me You Love Me and even Game of Thrones, HBO has never shied away from showing people having sex on screen. Girls — which probably should just be renamed White Girls Having Bad Sex In Brooklyn — wields and incorporates sex the same way Insecure has. 

But Black people having sex — and having that sex run the gamut from mundane and matter-of-fact to explicit and explosive — has remained somewhat taboo in mainstream media. And a not-at-all-insignificant reason for this taboo is that our bodies are still considered to be more pornographic than our White counterparts. This makes Black sex scenes seem more obscene, a dynamic Wesley Morris explored last month.

There’s a more pernicious problem at work here, too. The underrepresentation of the black penis bespeaks a larger discomfort with depicting black male sexuality with the same range of seriousness, cheek and romance that’s afforded white sexuality. The history of American popular culture is an immersion in, if not loving white people, then knowing that white people can love.

Although his piece focused more on Black male sexuality — pop culture’s relationship with the Black penis specifically — much of the same could be said about America’s relationship with Black sex in general. With Insecure however, Issa Rae subverts this expectation, creating a show that seems to exist refreshingly oblivious to this historical context. Knowing how long this show took to develop and produce — and knowing Rae’s history and how in tune she is to our cultural zeitgeist — I have no doubt that this obliviousness was intentional. That she’s very aware of the existence of this context — of our country’s uneasiness with Black bodies and Black sex — and intended to confront and eschew it.

I believe she knew this would be revolutionary. And all she had to do was be real.

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for GQ.com And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at damon@verysmartbrothas.com. Or don't. Whatever.

  • This last…no this entire season I’ve been awaiting some commentary from VSB. The love scenes have been used EXPERTLY to communicate so much. And I feel like it’s so real…because in life we communicate alot through that activity. Man…I have so much respect for Issa and they way she’s getting this done. I’m VERY emotionally invested in this show…as @RewindingtonMaximus:disqus Can attest to LOL. I couldn’t even sleep last night.

    That being said…WHY is everyone having such a hard time making love in the shower? It’s NOT that hard guys.

    • Sigma_Since 93

      “WHY is everyone having such a hard time making love in the shower?”

      You must have stick ’em for skin, a Mimi pole or must be extremely light. Getting and maintaining good leverage is hard in the shower.

      • What’s stick ’em?

        LOL it’s really not that complex. Honestly.

        • Sigma_Since 93

          Stick ’em is a tacky substance used to help keep your grip. Think of how the sticky side of athletic tape feels….that’s stick ’em. I’m not trying to goto the hospital for lacerations or concussions…my copay is high enough as it is.

        • Brother Mouzone

          It’s not difficult, it’s just a little over rated

    • HouseOfBonnets

      Tight spaces equal limited lol

      • I mean…you have to respect the circumstances of where the activity is taking place. It requires a bit more finesse that other areas…but it’s not hard…it’s just a little different. I’ve never NOT enjoyed it there…and it’s never been boring either.

    • Scorpiogoddess??

      Your shower don’t got water that makes it slippery?

      • I mean…yea but…I like that.

        • Scorpiogoddess??

          Different strokes for different folks. Those of us with Obama care that gets rejected every now and again cannot be out here slipping and sliding and breaking bones.

          • LOL I don’t understand what y’all are doing to make it so dangerous. It’s no more dangerous than say…doing it bent over the balcony railing…and ppl are always doing that.

            • miss t-lee

              Um…there’s way more risk in the shower than the balcony ma’am.

              • Y’all have a lot of trust in railings.

                • miss t-lee

                  You have a lot of trust in shower tiles and tubs.

                  • Epsilonicus

                    We are *here* today

                    • miss t-lee

                      I really don’t want to die like that.

                    • Epsilonicus

                      I always said I wanted to die while getting some but not in that way.

                    • miss t-lee

                      Not with a broken neck…that’s the epitome of un sexay.

                    • Epsilonicus

                      Not the story I want told during my eulogy.

                    • miss t-lee

                      Zacklyyyy.

                    • cyanic

                      What about cause of death from some sensational road head while you drive?

                • Sigma_Since 93

                  Spike Lee showed me it was possible

            • Scorpiogoddess??

              Goodnight.

    • Question

      I think height plays into this too. Angles and such. Ya know?

      • That’s a good point. I’m usually with men who have about 6 inches on me tho…idk…I’ve never had an issue. I’ve never lost my footing or anything. PLUS the water feel glorious cascading down your body while you’re in the throes of passion.

        • Brother Mouzone

          Taller women, 5 7 and above, definitely make it easier for a guy who is over 6 feet tall.

          • I’m 5’6…Maybe I pose less of a challenge.

    • KwameF

      Depends on the shower head, the size of the shower, water temperature, the size of the participants. It’s super tricky.

    • NomadaNare

      It easy to do in a larger shower

      • LOL I got a regula degula shower…

  • Mika

    Finally! this show is great, and I think what makes it so great is………well, its so relatable. I am still team Lawrence tho lol issa blew it.

  • HouseOfBonnets

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    • Yes cause I was like “WHY aren’t they talking about this? WHY AREN’T THEY DISCUSSING THIS?!” LOL I was getting mad.

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      • PinkRose

        Need. More. FEMALE. Writers. IJS.

    • Ausar Mars

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  • cyanic

    Lawrence’s get back was the most explicit the show has ever gone. And for those of us on Team Issa it was the most devastating blow.

    • Scorpiogoddess??

      Lawrence. All the way. He a tall piece of chocolatte, which is reason enough to be team him.

      • HouseOfBonnets

        In Issa’s defense (which still doesn’t excuse her actions especially since I feel like she holds partial blame to what lead to it) we’re brought into the story right on the verge of Lawrence’s glow up. Yea we see his struggles but we don’t fully see them over the years like Issa has just her complaints. While she should have told him (in better ways tbh) he was still stagnant and not contributing (something I can relate to especially if money is tight) yeah it’s easy to be team Lawrence now especially after Daniel but still.

        Plus the petty of leaving that Damm shirt.

        • cyanic

          Leaving the shirt was the only thing I give Lawrence a dab for.

          • That was well played.

          • HouseOfBonnets

            That and taking that 10.99 Burlington coat factory pillow from his side.

            • cyanic

              Did he steal her Nicki throw pillow though? Didn’t see it on their new bouch.

              • HouseOfBonnets

                Questions that need awnsers lol

        • Scorpiogoddess??

          There’s no defense, at all. You can LEAVE.

          • HouseOfBonnets

            True but given the way she was stagnant on everything else it didn’t surprise me that she was stagnant on that we saw that punk break up attempt in episode 1.

        • She could have left him.

          • HouseOfBonnets

            This is very true as well which is why a lot is on her.

          • Scorpiogoddess??

            EXACTLY WU! If it was Lawrence who did that, my God, the womenz would have put up a protest! Why she dealing with a ninja with fucc boi ways?

            • I hate when people try to ascribe some form of nobility to infidelity based on gender. It’s all based in the same pettiness, disloyalty, or selfishness most of the time.

              That Daniel fellas thirst was bad.

              • Scorpiogoddess??

                We are !!!!

              • Freebird

                Great comment

          • mssporadic

            Yeah, but it can’t be easy to walk out after 5 years. And, they live together. And, she knew he didn’t have a job. I’m pretty hard core, and even I wouldn’t want to kick someone I love to the curb under those circumstances.

            • That’s one of my non-religious reasons for not cohabitation. Not doing husband sh*t if I’m not a husband.

        • No petty would’ve been smashing Tasha in their bedroom, but my man Lawrence has more class than that.

    • pls

      I’m scared to watch!

    • Mika

      nah im team Lawrence. all she had to do was shade Daniel from jump and she wouldn’t have blown her cover.

    • I’m torn. Issa was dropping EVERY ball that was in her court all season…Lawrence WAS getting mo’ fine and then MO’ FINE every episode tho…and that FINAL level up…I was like “girl…you don’t f’d up” SMH It’s all so sad.

      • Scorpiogoddess??

        She really phakked up. You don’t kick a man like THAT when he is down. That’s just gritty.

      • cyanic

        He was never as unattractive as they attempted to make him in earlier episodes. His status made him pits. And she was too tough to still go for the but he’s cute thing.

      • mssporadic

        His glo up over 8 eps was beautiful.

    • mssporadic

      I’m not even hurt by him leaving and banging Chase H oe. We all knew that was going to happen. It’s that phone call from the strip club. It made his actions after the phone call so brutal!

      • cyanic

        He seemed cold over the phone.

      • NomadaNare

        The phone call was a little brutal wasnt it

        I fully though t they were going to get back together after that call

        The kicker for me was leaving the Best Buy shirt

        That was a read beyond which I have never seen

        • mssporadic

          That phone call hurt my soul because he set her up. Got her hopes up and then dipped.

          The Best Buy shirt was an amazing F U to Issa which she deserved.

          If they have any hope of getting past all their passive aggressive BS and the infidelity, they need to break up. Lawrence needs to stand on his own 2 feet. He didn’t really improve himself until she left in ep 1. Issa needs to learn to be assertive about what she wants in a relationship.

  • miss t-lee
    • Epsilonicus

      I feel the same way about this show.

      • miss t-lee

        *daps*

        • Sigma_Since 93

          couldn’t get past the first episode.

          • Epsilonicus

            I watched two. Never again.

            • naughtycorner

              I did not like the first two episodes either . Big Yawn
              I only stuck it out because I was fan of her Web Series Awkward Black Girl i was like Meh she cant recreate ABG magic so Im out. But the show kinda caught its stride like ep 3-4 glad I hung in there

            • Brother Mouzone

              I don’t usually like these type of shows, but I think it’s pretty good. At first I thought I was enjoying it because my wife loves it, but the last couple of episodes, I watched on dvr by myself and was quite entertained. I understand though. I imagine the people who don’t like it probably feel the way I felt about GIRLFRIENDS and THE GAME, and everything Tyler Perry. When I would voice these opinions in certain circles, folks would come at me like I insulted their mama.

              • Epsilonicus

                I had actually liked Girlfriends. I thought it was funny and witty. I did not like The Game very much. And Tyler Perry stuff I just like for laughs. I know its not the best but at times it can be funny.

                I find most of the shows like Insecure that is about millennials to not be entertaining for me. Maybe because it comes off too relationship angsty.

          • miss t-lee

            LOL

      • LOL y’all two are buggin’

        • Epsilonicus

          Maybe my bougie quotient isn’t high enough.

          • miss t-lee

            I know mine definitely isn’t.

          • It’s…not that bougie. It’s really quite relatable.

            • Epsilonicus

              If you are bougie of course its relatable.

              • LMAO I’m NOT bougie. What makes it bougie? Didn’t you say you haven’t even watched it?

                • Epsilonicus

                  I watched two episodes. I quit after that

                  • cyanic

                    You need to be strapped down with your eyelids held open ala A Clockwork Orange and watch the entire series. Only eight episodes and get your life.

                    • Epsilonicus

                      I will stick to Atlanta.

                    • cyanic

                      They’ll definitely strap you down there.

                    • Sigma_Since 93

                      You gonna lose some with the Clockwork Orange reference but daps you up anyway

                    • Yes!!!

        • miss t-lee
      • I’m home!!!

    • HouseOfBonnets

      Awww tee you don’t like it?

      • miss t-lee

        More like I’ll never watch it. So thou carest not.

        • Epsilonicus

          I watched 2 episodes. You aint missing much

          • miss t-lee

            You’re better than me.

            • [Insert Creative Name Here]

              What is wrong with y’all?! This show is sooo good. Molly’s sense of humor alone is enough to watch.

              • miss t-lee

                *looks around*
                Me?
                Me?
                *unfurls scroll*

                Clearly y’all are feeling a kinda of way that we ain’t feeling this show…lol

                • HouseOfBonnets

                  I understand it’s not for everyone, at least you’re honest about it lol

                  • miss t-lee

                    Always :)

                • Kas

                  I checked out after episode one. I can talk to my friends (both male and female) about effed upped relationships and dating, I don’t need to watch a show about it.

                  • miss t-lee

                    *cackling*

                • Aw yes. The “ninjas are pressed because I/ain’t mad about/like/love/hate/care about something they ninjas are pressed because I/ain’t mad about/like/love/hate/care about” matrix.

                  #theInternet

                  • miss t-lee

                    Basically…lol!

    • TeeChantel

      Right there with you, sis.

      • miss t-lee

        YAY! our little group is expanding.

        • TeeChantel

          Yes we are!

          • miss t-lee

            Si se puede!!!!

  • Scorpiogoddess??

    I beg to differ. I don’t find various state of
    black undress as being revolutionary.

    Having said that. I hate that Daniel’s character. He is shady af. He definitely was the one who put that video up on YouTube and he pretending like he wouldn’t do her diiiirty. He a Drake.

    It was very obvious that Lawrence was going to sleep with ol girl.

    One thing that bothers me, is the chemistry between Issa and Lawrence be sooo off. It’s more like friiiiiiiiiiends. Or maybe I’m intense?

    • Damon Young

      I beg to differ. I don’t find various state of black undress as being revolutionary.

      would you consider groundbreaking to be a better word?

      • Scorpiogoddess??

        Mmmmh, yeah.

    • Daniel is SOOOOOO messy. Like…who shows up at someone’s job?! UGH. BUT Issa left the door open to mess…soooooo she holds much of that fault.

      I think the chemistry between them was purposefully written that way. Their relationship was stale and stagnant…and they were tip-toeing around it.

      • pls

        she was bored and it’s the only way anybody could cheer for her after cheating. I hated their scenes together because you can tell there is so much not being said.

      • Scorpiogoddess??

        He is such a DRAKE! God. Over emotional. Over the top. I’m done with his periodesque emotions. Yes, Issa is to blame too for allowing that ninja back. And he ain’t even foine. I mean Lawrence ain’t making that kind of change but still.

        • He’s got a SICK body tho…dipped in the most velvety dark chocolate… (I have a weakness lol I’m aware). But yeah he was doing toooooooooo much

          • Scorpiogoddess??

            Who?!

            • Daniel

              • Scorpiogoddess??

                You know what he do. But I dislike him so much that I’m blind to all that.

                • cyanic

                  I’m not to his backside.

                • LOL I can see that…but girl…RE-VISIT that scene in the studio…and just take a moment to appreciate the black magic that is his body…OUTSIDE of his rediculous #MessyMalik character. It’s a thing of beauty.

                  • Scorpiogoddess??

                    I seen it. Beautiful beautiful skin.

          • cyanic

            Velvety chocolate is the best. The use of blue, green, and violet to light medium and dark brown people in dark spaces on the show is the best.

            • You sound very well-versed in lighting and color palettes miss. Check you out! But yes there is so much attention to detail on this show…right down to the color palette. It’s…immersive!

        • HouseOfBonnets

          Plus first episode he said he wasn’t looking for anything lol

          • Scorpiogoddess??

            He just talking. Talk is cheap HOB. Look at him now being a bish.

            • HouseOfBonnets

              I mean we are in the era of fuck boi R&B lol

      • [Insert Creative Name Here]

        She certainly shouldn’t have been shady at the fundraiser. “You’re an itch I needed to scratch.” WTH?

        • Scorpiogoddess??

          But he is. Shiiiiid. Like what else is he?

          • [Insert Creative Name Here]

            Sorry. I was unclear in my comment. It wasn’t what she said that bothered me, it was WHERE she said it. Yes, Lawrence put two and two together but Daniel could’ve done much worse than just walk away after she said that.

        • HouseOfBonnets

          It had to be done, Ty dolla sign and trey songz do it every day b

          (hits killa cam)

        • I mean…idc about his feelings. STOP SHOWING UP AT MY JOB!!!!

          • Scorpiogoddess??

            Like. I would spazz the phakk out. Nucca. Don’t you have a life outside of your dyck?

            • LOL he was so extra. Take a hint my guy…you are being curve. RESPECT THE CURVE!

    • Brother Mouzone

      Yeah, when ol girl took interest in his ideas for an App…. it was a wrap! Hey! That rhymed.

  • Sigma_Since 93

    All I can say is the Lord’s work is being done. Between the chex on Insecure and this right here https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41d462929965613f9b7b9e058d597894956d9e22a7af04eaebeb4347993dce0d.gif

    It’s nice to be seen in complex chexual situations and not just an afterthought of the director and producer.

    • Scorpiogoddess??

      That’s because the folks behind the shows are US! FUBU all the way.

      • Sigma_Since 93

        I only give credit to Spike in this department. Everyone else prior has dropped the ball.

        • Scorpiogoddess??

          Spike is not the only NOW.

      • Nik White

        And the music…

    • Val

      *wonders why Sig finds this (gif) so fascinating?*

      • miss t-lee

        You know why Val.

        • Sigma_Since 93

          I gave my reason last week. It would be interesting to hear why you think I find it fascinating?

          • miss t-lee

            Because it’s two ladies getting it on, correct?
            The same reason a whole lot of hetero guys seem to be interested.

            • Sigma_Since 93

              Noap.

              From last week

              “The Lord’s work has been done.

              You have two beautiful women with two different body types that were shown in a tasteful, yet sensual manner.

              You have a chexually free woman that will shoot her shot regardless if you are a woman or a man.

              We don’t get to be those characters let alone both characters at the same damb time”

              Other than the L Word, when was the last time you saw a Black lesbian couple? I mean the Women of Brewster’s Place and The Color Purple alluded to it.

      • Freebird

        I do too V and I have not the foggiest idea what the gif is from.

  • Yellow Tail

    Finally some Insecure content! I feel like I’ve been waiting an eternity to talk about this show as we had to wade through all the election crap. I’m so proud of where Issa has progressed from Awkward Black Girl.
    Even though I’m an Issa stan the thing that’s hurt me the most on this show is the number of good guys gone bad due to insecure “good” women. RIP to Jared, Daniel, and Lawrence. Yall deserved better!

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      MESSAGE?!!!?

      • cyanic

        Did the show recover for you?

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          I cut the cord, so Sunday night it’s between Westworld and Insecure. I end up watching insecure on Tuesday

          • cyanic

            Which means you still give it a look see. BTW is your handle here the same as it is on Twitter?

            • Brooklyn_Bruin

              One in the same, I tweet nothing. Twitter is a much worse distraction than this

              • cyanic

                Confession. I saw your handle and your avatar and decided to follow you.

    • Simms~

      Jared and Lawrence were the only good guys – Daniel: not so much.

      • mssporadic

        Is Daniel really a bad guy tho?

        • He’s not a “good” guy.

        • Simms~

          What @twilishalynnmcclelland:disqus said.

      • Yellow Tail

        Perhaps good is not the best term to use for Daniel but he did make it pretty obvious that he had some kind of feelings for Issa beyond wanting to just smash and after all that to hear her say he was just an itch…I felt that sting. Given a different set of circumstances where she wasn’t cheating on her BF and leading him on he had the potential to be a “good” one.

        • Simms~

          Meh. I don’t think he’s a bad guy just not as good as the category in which I would put Lawrence and Jared. I felt for him when she hit him with that line but why would you show up at her place of work? I agree that she fostered all of those situations by not putting an immediate end (like Lawrence did with bank chick), but I still don’t see Daniel in the same grouping as the others.

  • Insecure got better as the season progressed.

    -I’m glad the rapping in the mirrors and everywhere else stopped.
    -Issa needs to battle Nova Bordelon in the “Bush Hog, I’m a non-Self Reflecting, Disloyal, Hypocritical, Terrible Friend Bowl” in Memphis on December 28th. I’m really glad Molly gave her the riot act.
    -Molly and Issa’s friends are taxing. The loud girl (Who made me realize again how much that I’m not a birthday person) and the bougie lame girl with the bougie lame husband (Who obviously dry snitched to his wife about the break up) get old fast.
    -I’m puzzled by Daniel: In the first episode he’s being King Thirst while basically telling Issa that he wasn’t looking for anyone then get’s all Drake after he smashes and shows up at the fund raiser.
    -Issa was dead wrong for going outside on Lawrence but I’m wondering if Lawrence bumping uglies Tasha and kicking her to the curb starts a circle of scorn.

    • mssporadic

      Daniel is probably used to ghosting girls and didn’t expect it from Issa. Also, their convo at the studio hinted that it’s a pattern with him.

      • Scorpiogoddess??

        He is in love with Issa. And thought that he could do her however, being they have a history together. But shock on him, Issa got the reigns of control.

        • mssporadic

          I don’t think Daniel is in love with Issa. She’s his “In Case of Emergency” girl. Always welcoming him back when he wants her.

          • Scorpiogoddess??

            Yes he is. Who the phakk shows up to someone’s job multiple times?

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      She did tell Molly she knew how to keep a man….

    • Julian Green

      I liked her little rap-asides. They were cute.

      And Daniel just made the classic mistake; he smashed, got all up in his feelings and assumed that that girl was his. He should’ve seen what was up when he woke up and she’d already left the studio.

      • The mirror raps were a little to manic pixie ish for me. Kind of annoying.

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          Plus she can’t rap at all. Elementary school teacher, suburban district

        • Scorpiogoddess??

          I like the broken pooosay record

    • cyanic

      I like her plus size girlfriend. Outside of Molly I wanted more from her. Now HBO has offered her a deal to do her own thing.

    • mssporadic

      I liked the raps because it was the only you learned how she really felt.

      Kelli (PS friend) is hilarious! “Of course I hear myself. I have a podcast.”

  • Am I the only one who tried to watch and couldn’t get into it?

    On another note…I binge watched “Queen Sugar”…LAWD…..YES!

    • Epsilonicus

      Join T-Lee and I. Welcome

    • miss t-lee

      There’s a group downthread. Come join!

      • I knew yall wouldn’t let me down!!! Lmao

      • It’s not the best thing on TV but I like it. I get why people don’t because I got tired of the web series after two or three episodes.

        • miss t-lee

          Yeah. I clocked out during the webseries days, probably never to return.
          However, no hate on chick. Just not my cup of tea.

          • Epsilonicus

            Right. I just might not be her intended audience. Thats cool.

            • Brooklyn_Bruin

              I truly wonder who that is. Much like Love and Hip Hop

              • NomadaNare

                20 somethings of color within some reasonable proximity of their own quarter life crises

                • Brooklyn_Bruin

                  Naw, I know smart people in that age group.

                  #shotsfired

    • Scorpiogoddess??

      Lmao. I’m the same with Queen Sugar.

    • TeeChantel

      We’re all here.
      But Queen Sugar tho. :-)
      If I ever see Ralphangel in person.

      • Maaaaan…I’m gonna respect my husband’s good name but I will say….I’m a heathen with lustful thoughts.

        • TeeChantel

          Amen sis – well…. I can’t say the same for me lol

        • Mochasister

          Ain’t he a pretty Negro?! Lawd, I feel like a cougar! Lol!

          • Lawd yes.

            • Mochasister

              Mama always said leave a pretty Negro alone!

              • Shiiiiiiiiiiiit! The way my libido is set up…. HE GOTTA BE PRETTY!!

                • Mochasister

                  I hear you. But why does it seem like they always cause more problems?

      • Nik White

        Yeah he could get…well if I wasn’t engaged. But I do need him to stop whinning.

        • TeeChantel

          Ahaha – he does whine a lot. Poor Baby

        • L8Comer

          He cries a lot. He’s super emo.

          • Nik White

            But sho is pretty (sigh).

      • Blueberry01

        Girl, Kofi! #SkinnyChexy ?

    • After 15, 20 mins of Ep. 1 – and I channel surfed my way back to Atlanta.

    • blueevey

      Ms. Tumbao, I totes thought of u when I was on facebk going thru news articles abt Castro’s death. … and then realized I hadn’t seen u on here for awhile.

      I hope all is well with you.

    • Nik White

      I watched 1 episode after seeing a couple of Awkward Black Girls on YouTube but it didn’t grab me. I’m glad it’s doing well.

      Glad you got ino Queen Sugar.

      • I felt like I had been denying myself all the good liquor and food…..it’s brilliant!!!!

        • Nik White

          Indeed!!!

    • NonyaB?

      No, you’re not. I was just saying that I found ep1 so underwhelming that I couldn’t even finish it and I dismissed it as a watered down version of Awkward Black Girl (which I enjoyed). But based on how The People kept getting in their feels about it, I might give it another chance, someday…

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