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On Derrick Rose, Chris Brown, And Black Men’s “Non-Existent” Pain

"Walk it off, little bitch."

“Walk it off, little bitch.”

As last season’s NBA playoffs intensified, I found myself rooting for Derrick Rose harder than I’ve ever rooted for any professional athlete. Defending him, even. Sometimes, I’d even feel my temperature rise when hearing or reading a criticism lobbed his way.

This by itself is nothing really worth mentioning. Rose is very popular and plays with an aesthetically pleasing recklessness and audacity that is completely unique to him. Of course I—an NBA diehard—would be a big fan of his game.

Except, well…

Derrick Rose is not one of my favorite NBA players. In fact, if I had to list the 20 or players I enjoy watching the most, Rose probably wouldn’t crack the list. I actually think he’s somewhat overrated.

Also, he did not play a minute of NBA basketball last season.

So, um, why was I rooting for him?

Well, in April of 2012, Rose tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee. For an athlete, this is one of the scariest and most devastating injuries you can receive. For someone like Rose, a man whose livelihood is predicated on his ability to twist, torque, and explode off that knee, it would be especially harrowing.

Between surgery and rehab, it usually takes a year before you “fully” recover. And, “fully” is in quotes because, as long as I’ve been watching NBA basketball, I’ve never seen anyone recover completely from a torn ACL. Sure, players have returned and have had very productive careers, but no one has come back as quick and explosive as they were before.

So, Rose sat out the entire 2012-2013 NBA season. But, as the Bulls advanced into the playoffs—and as reports leaked that his knee was healthy enough to play—he became a national source of ridicule for his decision to not suit up.

“Man, that dude has no heart!!!” men screamed while sitting on their couches in their Dad’s old pajamas, smearing Cheetos stains on the universal remote.

“Derrick Rose is a quitter” others typed on message boards, moments before going back to XHamster.com and searching for Asian DPs.

“F*ck you, p*ssy!” some even screamed at him during games, shouting so vigorously that the rolls on their backs did the Wobble.

None of this surprised me. The sports world is a strange place, and strange things—like people questioning the heart of a kid who scratched and crawled his way out of the Southside of Chicago to become one of the best athletes on Earth—happen in strange places.

It did, however, reinforce the idea that athletes in general—and young Black athletes in particular—aren’t supposed to own their bodies. It didn’t matter that Rose repeatedly said he wasn’t physically or mentally ready yet. A doctor whose salary is paid by the Chicago Bulls said he was ready, so that nigga better play! F*ck how you feel, and f*ck your future. Get on the court, and help us fill up that arena!

You know, I thought about Rose yesterday when reading a piece at Jezebel about Chris Brown’s recent admission that he lost his virginity to a teenager when he was eight. (Eight!!!)

Titled Chris Brown Brags About Losing His Virginity When He Was Eight, it mocks Brown as the author wonders how he was able to turn “…a personal confession into yet another opportunity to showcase how unpleasant he seems.” If you think the author’s tone completely and intentionally glosses over the fact that if Brown was truly eight years old (Eight!!!) when this happened, he was raped, you’d be right.

Although Brown’s admission obviously is in a completely different ballpark than an ACL tear, the flippant reactions to both Brown’s story and Rose’s injury seem to come from the same place: Black men aren’t supposed to feel any physical, mental, or emotional pain.

You blew out the knee your career is dependent on? Who gives a damn? We’re playing the Clippers. You need to guard Chris Paul. You admit you had sex with a person twice your age when you were still at an age where some kids still think Santa Claus exists? You’re a Black male, and you’re inherently hyper-sexual. I’m sure you loved every minute of it, and I’m also sure that experience had absolutely no effect on your self-esteem, your self-worth, or your feelings about women. Go take another nude selfie.

The NBA season is a couple weeks away. The Bulls open up against the Heat. Lebron James is one of my favorite players, and I want the Heat to win. I do not want everyone who questioned Rose’s heart last spring to tear their ACLs while jumping off their futons to celebrate a vicious Rose dunk. But, you have to admit, that would be kinda poetic.

—Damon Young (aka “The Champ”)

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Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a contributing editor for EBONY.com. He resides in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes.

  • http://vagabondaesthetics.tumblr.com/ Ricky

    Derrick Rose cries a lot though.

  • B

    I’m so glad that you brought this up. Not only in the sports or music industries, but in everyday life, we fail to acknowledge or even realize that our black men and boys are human beings capable of experiencing emotion just like the rest of us. All too often do we tell them to “Man up” or recite the fallacy that “(Real) men don’t cry.” What we should do is instead embrace their emotions and experiences and teach them how to confront and deal with them. This has a lot to do with the violence that we experience within our communities as well. If we took the time to teach our young men that it is okay to feel and express their emotions instead of pressuring them to suppress their feelings, then we could probably eliminate much of the misdirected anger that leads to senseless killings. We also would probably have men who are more engaged in their relationships and willing to openly discuss their issues without simply walking out or leaving the problem to “fix itself.” I don’t believe that expressing or confronting one’s emotions will solve every problem in the world, but I do believe that it would allow for better relationships for our black men with themselves and others.

    • Sigma_Since 93

      Let’s not forget coaches too; the first question they ask when you need medical attention is “Are you hurt or are you injured” You can play hurt but not injured” How many times does this defacto Man Up moment come back to bite the player and cause more damage? (See NFL concussions)

  • http://brown-c6h12o6.tumblr.com/ AfroPetite

    It’s football season!!!! I’m not here for this NBA gobbledy goop…..HMPH!!!

    • LMNOP

      Offer up a football analogy then, football players get hurt all the time.

      • Val

        I have something. It’s not an analogy but it’s relevant. I love what Barry Sanders did. He just walked away from football in his prime. And, he didn’t look back. The fans in Detroit and even some of his teammates talked much trash about him for doing that but he never faltered. He knew what was right for him and money nor fame could change his mind.

        • SuperStrings

          One of my favorite football players of all time, and arguably the best running back to ever play the game. Just imagining what he could have done with an actual line is a fantasy. Maybe the world just wasn’t ready.

          • Val

            You think Barry was better than Jim Brown and O.J.?

            • T.Q. Fuego

              DEFINITELY better than O.J. Jim Brown’s in his league, but it’s hard to compare the two. Plus Barry’s o-line was feces for most of his career. To this day I still haven’t seen anybody else wow me and leave me in pure amazement at how spectacular a play was that amounted to no gain or 1 yard. I would be baffled at how he avoided losing 6 to 8. The d-linemen would be in the backfield waiting on the QB to hand it off to him.

              • Val

                No one seems to consider O.J. in these conversations anymore. I wonder if all of the stuff surrounding him had not happened would he be more highly regarded as a running back?

                • http://brown-c6h12o6.tumblr.com/ AfroPetite

                  His messiness in his personal life pretty much erased anything he did on the field. No one cares about your stats when you are out here dodging murder cases and treating jail like a revolving door.

                • Sigma_Since 93

                  No one will ever question what OJ did as a player. His off the field activities have dwarfed his playing accolades but for those who can segregate the two will tell you OJ was the man.

              • SuperStrings

                He was that dude you watched to see what spectacular thing he was going to do that game. A pile of players hanging on to him, and you thought he was down, then he’s bursting through the crowd. He never stopped moving his feet.

                • Shamira

                  We’re just gonna flat out ignore Bo Jackson #doe ?

                  • Val

                    Yeah, if Bo had not gotten hurt there’s no telling what he could have done. And, Walter Payton has to be in the mix too.

                    • SuperStrings

                      The Bears did Payton dirty in the Superbowl though. One of the best running backs of all time, and you let The Fridge run in the touchdown on the 2 yard line. I’m salty about that.

                  • SuperStrings

                    I don’t mention Bo because, as a football fan, I just feel plain robbed.

            • SuperStrings

              Different styles of running in different times, but I’d say yes. Barry was an amazing dude. I don’t think anyone could turn a loss into a gain like that dude.

    • T.Q. Fuego

      Cam Newton’s disappointing me. I want him to be great, but he p*ssed me off Sunday. Dafuq was that sh*t? I know the Cardinals’ defense is underrated, but there’s no excuse for that performance. He insists on taking a step backward after every step forward smh

      • http://brown-c6h12o6.tumblr.com/ AfroPetite

        You are preaching to the choir TQ. He came out of the gate connecting ALL (I repeat) ALL of his initial passes to both Greg Olsen and Steve Smith in that game. Whenever pressure is applied to Cam he crumbles in the worst way. I don’t know what he has to do in order to sustain his own confidence throughout the game but he needs to find out how to push himself past the sacks, missed connections, dropped passes, etc.

        I think his contract ends in 2014/2015 and Gettleman might be shopping around for a new QB if Rivera doesn’t get fired first. Either way. Cam isn’t the clutch QB I thought he might pan out to be. I’m not confident in Cam ever being the QB Carolina needs when we’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.

        • Sahel

          Hehehe

          • http://brown-c6h12o6.tumblr.com/ AfroPetite

            You can dive head first into an empty pool.

            • Val

              I think Cam is selfish. I think he’s always been selfish, which is what got him in all that trouble in college. That selfishness impairs his ability to lead. If he can overcome that then he has a chance to be a good NFL QB.

              • http://brown-c6h12o6.tumblr.com/ AfroPetite

                Kobe is selfish, he’s been doing just fine in his NBA career.

                • Sahel

                  NBA is different to NFL. The QB cant score all the points by himself. Kobe did 81,remember Ryan Leaf

                  • http://brown-c6h12o6.tumblr.com/ AfroPetite

                    Val was speaking to selfishness impairing Cam’s ability to lead. I know the NBA is polar opposite of the NFL. In the same vein, Kobe being selfish has only recently impaired his ability to lead. He’s never going to get this 6th ring in LA. Y’all can quote me on that. No one wants to play with Kobe. He can drop 90 points a game, every game he plays, and he won’t ever get past the first round of the playoffs.

                    • SuperStrings

                      This is true, but I wasn’t mad at Kobe for going in on Dwight Howard. He’s the softest big man in the league. If you’re that big and can’t be a star, even after personal guidance from Patrick Ewing, then you just don’t have it.

                • Val

                  True, but, don’t forget all of the problems Cam had in college even before he got to Auburn.

                  • Sahel

                    The kid has always been given star treatment. When your team starts dropping soap that’s when you earn your pay as a QB.

                  • http://brown-c6h12o6.tumblr.com/ AfroPetite

                    Welp, his contract is up soon. He can either stay with Carolina or try his luck elsewhere…..

                    • Shamira

                      also, y’all should have fired Rivera at least a season ago. Yall wont prosper with him regardless of whether you continue with Cam.

              • Shamira

                I really think a lot of it is just that he isn’t used to losing. Like, he’s just not used to having all the pieces in place for him to just let loose and flourish. And he clearly takes the losses personally; its just that instead of using those losses to flourish into the leader that everyone wants him to be, he continues to build a hole of self-defeatism (is that a word?). I think if he had a more even-keeled team (no offense @AfroPetite:disqus )he would be doing a lot better, and that could be said for a LOT of QBs. For example , I think that Tom Brady would tank just as badly in Carolina. Yeah I said it.

                • http://brown-c6h12o6.tumblr.com/ AfroPetite

                  I hate Brady. I hate the Patriots. But I agree. Cam coming from Auburn in a league where there are few top teams who can actually compete with you? In the NFL, for the most part, every team is good. Winning isn’t guaranteed and Cam can’t handle it AT ALL!!!!

                • T.Q. Fuego

                  I don’t know if Brady would do as bad, but he definitely would be in the middle of the pack and nothing special. As far as Cam, he’s suffering from the same problem most QBs who have that crutch of being fast suffer from. He’s not comfortable in the pocket when it collapses and never learned how to manipulate defenses from the pocket. The subtleties and details of playing QB haven’t mattered as much to him in the past. So now that defenses are making him have to beat em from the pocket his deficiencies are showing. He doesn’t have the emotional maturity to handle it either. You can tell his confidence is shook smh.

                  • Shamira

                    I’ll give Brady middle of the pack, but no higher. lol. But I agree with you on everything else. Also, even if those issues are fixed…he’s only got Smith and Olsen. They need to build more parts.

                    • T.Q. Fuego

                      Good point. Smith is ancient at this point too. No way he should be the number one receiver. They definitely need more weapons. At least their defense is pretty good now though.

  • I Am Your People

    * The only thing I could kinda get mad at was Derrick Rose making 394539470238498349032975 dollars while not playing a single minute, but he had every right to sit out the whole season. Arguably this preseason as well. ACLs are no joke.

    * Kinda In the same vein https://twitter.com/tejucole/status/386960463617335296

    * I just can’t with Chis Brown. I’ve just given up

    • Kema

      Wow! That racial empathy article was… idk

  • TheOtherJerome

    Far too many in this country think the worth of a Black male can barely fit on the head of a pin……. unless we are entertaining them. In that case don’t speak too loudly. It’s a shame Travon Martin didn’t have a wicked jump shot. His life would have been worth something then.

    As for D Rose, people (white and Black) wanted that boy to perform….. so get up there and dance “boy”. And for that matter, Dave Chappelle, get up there and perform the way we want you to perform!

    And it should go with out saying, 8 years old is too young to be hot for teacher. Why the writer of the Chris Brown article didn’t realize that he was molested is beyond me. If a teenager approached me when i was 8 it would have really messed me up.

  • minxbrie

    Jezebel has been at Chris Brown’s throat for years now. It’s disgusting that because they HAVE to make Brown out to be the second coming of the Devil at every chance, that they feel okay with themselves to snark on the sexual abuse of a child. Like, what kinda mess?

    That being said, pain is a fact of life. I’ve always thought that there were two kinds of people: those who can pick and choose when to be strong, while there are those who will never get the chance to be weak. From what I’ve observed, the surveillance that Black men undergo on a regular basis means “weakness” isn’t an option. Even worse, the *opportunity* to express pain or any emotion that isn’t A)sexualized, B)comedic or c)hyper-aggressive is non-existent.

    • LMNOP

      I don’t understand why it is so hard to say both that what Chris Brown did to Rihanna is terrible and inexcusable AND him being raped as a child is terrible and inexcusable.

      • http://esotericexistentialist.blogspot.com/ MPM

        You just said it, and you’re right. I think it’s easy for us (well, at least me) as non-celebrities to see celebrities in very one-dimensional ways. It’s easier to buy into the media portrayal of someone, because it allows us to either like or dislike someone (especially someone we don’t know), instead of getting into the nuance of recognizing them as a complete person with both positive and negative attributes.

  • Shamira

    I think you’re glossing over a couple of points in the Derrick Rose saga.

    People were absolutely doing too much that’s not a question, but what did him in was 1) Iman Shumpert coming back in time for the playoffs when they received similar injuries at the same time (I know, I know, not all ACLs are created equal) , 2) it being released that he had been in the practice squad for months, followed with that ill-timed clip of him dunking, 3) the entire Bulls organization, INCLUDING Rose, hemming and hawing about whether or not he would play while at the same time Joakim Noah was out there with a broken foot playing full minutes. Is it fair? No. I forget how Jalen Rose put it to Skip Bayless that one time he delivered that ether, but we absolutely take a whole lot of license in going after arguably the 150 or so most talented basketball players in the world (although I think that we should all take pleasure in being thoroughly delighted by the actions – or inactions at times – of Javale McGee).

    That all said, I think the racial element is inflated on this point. We want our favorite stars to play, regardless of the race of the player or of the fan. It could’ve been Kevin Love in this situation. (Sheeeeit it almost was Kevin Love in this situation). But it definitely speaks to the proprietary nature we seem to have over “our” athletes…and I’m including myself in that group, unfortunately. Bad habits are hard to break.

    On Chris Brown –

    I was so disgusted by this. Jezebel and a lot of these other white “feminist” pandering sites dislike CB sooooo much that they will give him no country for “leeway” …even the clear internalization of the fact that he was RAPED. Because admitting that a lot of things have gone wrong in Chris Brown’s life would be too much like making excuses for him – as opposed explaining a lot of his mindset. God forbid. One of the commenters put it well (I must say I was impressed by the majority of Jezebel commenters taking the writer to task for this everloving crap)

    “Hey folks, this is one of the times where you don’t have to preface your
    sympathy for him by saying, “I hate him but” or “He’s a douche but.”
    This is one of the times where you can just be angry and sad for him
    even though he’s Chris Brown. He was raped when he was practically a
    baby and that is disgusting. You can feel badly for him. It’s ok.”

    It’s just sad. While I definitely suffer from a case of Chris Brown fatigue, the insistence of the media to constantly find ways to villainize him instead of pushing him to get the help he clearly still needs to work through his demons is just so disappointing. It’d be one thing if it didn’t come from a place of malice, but it does – and it only contributes to Chris’ continued insistence on being the victim in all of this, which doesn’t help him come to terms with his very real issues.

    *scrolls up* sorry for the essay y’all.

    • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com/ Tristan

      jalen ethering skip was one of the greatest moments in television

      • Shamira

        listen, when he called him Water Pistol Pete I damn near fell out my seat.

      • T.Q. Fuego

        Richard Sherman fried his @ss too. “I’m better at life than you” lol…But how many human beings on planet Earth talk as much sh*t as Richard Sherman? lol

        • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com/ Tristan

          Diddy

          • Shamira

            Diddy got on Bad Boy for Life, said “Dont worry if I write rhymes, I write checks” and it’s all been downhill from there.

            For the life of me, I will never understand why he was shirtless in the Let’s Get It music video <– top ten tracks of all time? I think so, lmao

        • John Shannon

          Floyd Mayweather, Wesley Pipes, etc

          • T.Q. Fuego

            Lmao @ Wesley. Yeah, I agree about Floyd. Forgot about him. I prefer Muhammad Ali’s style a lot more though.

            • John Shannon

              Ali though was Honest and a Man of Substance when it came to Vietnam. he paid a price as far as a Citizen and as Heavyweight Champ. To This Day, while Vietnam was a Failure there are folks who call Draft Dodgers and Those Against that war Traitors, but Iraq was basically the Exact Same Kind of Meaningless War………………..

    • LMNOP

      I read about Chris Brown getting raped on Clutch and it was covered pretty appropriately, I am trying to get my head around how anyone could possibly react so inappropriately to a young child getting raped. It really made me think when I read that about what happened to Chris Brown. A lot of people seem to be quick to downplay rape (ie the criminal justice system), but that can really have a lot of lasting consequences for both the victim and other people in the victim’s life. It is really sad.

      • Michelle

        Ugh.. Clutch commentators. I love reading the articles but I am starting to dislike the commentators. They are hypocritical as well as choosy when it comes to who deserves their sympathy/respect.

        • Todd

          Starting? Man….listen. The issues I have with those excuses for female humanity. That I’m still hetero after reading those comments is a triumph of biology, not logic.

        • LMNOP

          Yeah, I saw some comments that seemed to be missing the entire point of the article (basically that raping a child is very wrong and chris brown should get help dealing with what happened to him) and was just like wtf? but apparently there are websites that actually published that perspective. What a world.

        • Kema

          I look forward to your comments on clutch but a lot of the other commentators are so upset with men that they cant see straight.

        • Sparger

          Sounds like every website on the internet.

        • Val

          The comment section there started going downhill about a year ago. That’s when I gave up. They are really starting to attract the Bossip crowd.

      • Shamira

        I can barely stand Clutch as well. There are a couple of gems of writers there, but they do the same level of pandering, just to the black community. Whenever Beyonce does something there 17 articles discussing it. I’m over it.

        Yeah, Chris has been through a lot. This rape, witnessing his mother get abused, and if rumors are true a nagging drug habit (which I wouldnt be surprised by that boy is looking more and more like a skeleton) . The problem is you can truly on help people who want to get help. I worked at a DV shelter all through college and its truly devastating to see people staying in a cycle of destruction, but all you can do is tell them that youll be for them when theyre ready. I just wish Chris didn’t have so many yes men around him.

        • Val

          Clutch has one writer that does the majority of the posts over there and she is such a lazy writer and her posts are so unnecessarily inflammatory.

          • Shamira

            I have seen no less than 20 articles on there about how black women dont work out, and I’m like says who? The top women in almost every sport are black, why ain’t they worried about their hair? It’s just tiring. I hate regurgitating the same topics over and over. Black people are multifaceted, how about we have a publication that reflects that?

            • http://missrosen.wordpress.com/ esa

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            • Val

              I think they have certain topics that they know will get lots of clicks and they have decided to just repeat those same topics over and over. So, I guess they get their clicks and their revenue but I think they are cheating their readers out of a lot of important topics that they don’t cover.

          • The Champ

            “Clutch has one writer that does the majority of the posts over there and she is such a lazy writer and her posts are so unnecessarily inflammatory.”

            I wouldn’t say that. I mean, when you’re writing 8 or 9 different posts/articles a day, they’re not all going to be home runs. But, I wouldn’t call her lazy either.

            • Val

              Well, either she’s lazy or cynical. She leaves out a lot of information in her posts. So, either she does that because she’s trying to incite readers or because she just didn’t do the research.

    • Kozy

      everything in this post, ma’am. point by point. thank you.

      +1 for the avid sports fan in you, as well.

      • Shamira

        :-D I be tryin’. Although I don’t know if I can be an avid sports fan this year. Giants, Yankees, and soon the Knicks….my heart is slowly dying this year smh. *starts to chug beer* *remembers its 930 AM*

        • ED

          I have faith in the Knicks. I really don’t think the Nets will be as good as the “experts” are proclaiming. They’re old, with a brand new coach who was playing just last season. Pierce and Johnson have a similar style of play, and they have a pretty short bench. Indiana scares me though.

          • Shamira

            the Nets made all those big roster changes and they’re still gonna end up in the same playoff position they were in last year and I’m gonna laugh.

            This is the first year I’m actively rooting again them. Last year I was ambivalent save for rolling my eyes at the bandwagon Nets fans who were trashing the Knicks EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD SEASON TIX AT MSG LAST YEAR…but my hate for all things KG trumps everything.

            No seriously, fuq that guy. My ire for KG burns with the fire of a thousand suns. Only ball player I hate more than him is Reggie Miller, who I would try to fade on sight (even though he’d beat my azz to a pulp, I’d have to at least attempt it).

            • ED

              I’m glad someone agrees with me on this. I’ve been losing my breath arguing about this! And I will be rooting against them this year too.
              About KG, I was a big fan until the bs he pulled last season on Melo. I hate Reggie too but I respect him. That meant has put me through some angry, frustrating, and nearly tear-inducing moments! FVCK REGGIE MILLER!!! Ok I’m done

              • Shamira

                KG has been a baby back B*SH for the past decade and I’ve never seen it for his trifling azz since he came to the east coast. No country, no township, no principality for Mr Garnett on these streets. Eff him and his beady eyes. Seriously if Tim Duncan aka Winnie the Pooh actively hates you, you’re a USDA Grade-A certified bag of douche.

                And I rewatched the 30 for 30 special on Reggie Miller recently and started throwing things at my TV screen.

                • ED

                  Lmao @ Tim Duncan aka Winnie the Pooh. Ok I’m done! lol. I laughed through this whole post lmao

                • BreezyX2

                  Best 30 for 30 I watched was based on “The U”. Didn’t know they did one on Reggie. I will have to watch it JUST so I can share in throwing things at the tv screen.

                  • ED

                    Get a stress ball and prepare for several rounds of “woo sahs”

                    • BreezyX2

                      LOL, I just found it on Youtube and it’s one hour and 11 minutes. I will be back with a full report.

                    • Shamira

                      girl, prepare yourself.

                    • BreezyX2

                      BOL, you and Ed are killing me.

                    • BreezyX2

                      Wait!!! Already 2 minutes in and:
                      1. Reggie is talking smack about my boo Starks!!!

                      2. This troll referring to Indiana as the Holy City and New York as Sodom and Gomorrah!

                      O__O….this is going to be long.

                    • Shamira

                      EYE. TOLD. YOU.

                      only keep soft objects around you, breezy. I don’t want you to crack your screen when you start throwing things.

                    • BreezyX2

                      Man, watching this just make me miss the old days of basketball more than anything. I just cracked up when Spike Lee said “…our IQ wasn’t the high” regarding Mason fouling Reggie at the end of that game. I have the most vivid memory of the facial expressions Mason would make…he is like the thug you love…lol!

                  • Shamira

                    I really enjoyed that one. You watched the Fab 5 one? Also amazing.

                    • BreezyX2

                      Will watch that one after I survive Reggie and these teeth.

                  • Val

                    I love those 30 for 30 films.

                    • BreezyX2

                      Me too!!

              • T.Q. Fuego

                I was the biggest KG fan you can imagine until I started realizing how f*cked up he is. Three particular things made me stop rooting for him. 1) I saw him sneak and punch Channing Frye in the d*ck while he was shooting a 3 a few years ago 2) When he called Charlie Villanueva a cancer patient. 3) The rumor is that he said something slick about “Happy Mother’s Day” to Tim Duncan in a f*cked up way cause he knew Timmy’s mom had died. (I don’t remember the details, but I remember thinking that it was lower than low. There’s trash talk and there’s taking sh*t way too far and apparently K.G. routinely does the latter smh

                • ED

                  I didn’t konw he was that bad smh

              • BreezyX2

                LOL, definitely lost a lot of respect for KG with the whole Honey Nut Cheerios comment. Players talk trash but come on man, that was not cool. I have always always carried an uncontrollable dislike for Reggie Miller and his aerobics taking teeth….and his sister for that matter.

                • ED

                  Yea I lost some respect for him because of that too. And Reggie… *blood boiling*

                  • Sahel

                    Reggie and Chuck really hate the G.O.A.T talk that involves rings.

    • Todd

      The one thing I will say about Chris Brown (and celebrities in general) is that for all of their money, it’s probably harder for them than the average person to go get help. On one hand, you can literally spend your days hearing about how wonderful a person you are. On top of that, most of your entourage is dependent on you constantly working and not getting help to pay your bills. In other words, their livelihood is directly opposed to your greater good. Unless you have a good support system to hold you do (and in Chris Brown’s case, it’s pretty clear that he has the exact opposite of that), you have the means and motivation to go much further down the rabbit hole than the average person.

      • LMNOP

        Also, when I was reading some of the things he said I realized he doesn’t seem aware at all that he needs help. And that level of self-awareness (or lack of self-awareness) is certainly not uncommon among people his age, but his celebrity status is probably going to make it harder for him to get to kind of a rock bottom place where he has to take a really hard look at his life and all the awful ish that brought him where he is now.

        • Yonnie

          Especially when he was talking about his anger management courses. I think he should have to repeat that class b/c it doesn’t sound like he learned much.

      • Shamira

        Yeah, he absolutely needs distance from his group of yes men. But that’s not gonna happen as long as he feels that he’s the victim in all of this (which to be fair, at this point with the vitriol some people in the media give him, he partially is.). I don’t know what it’s going to take for him to “get it” though – and part of this may be due to age, for sure – I just hope it wont be rock bottom.

        • http://brown-c6h12o6.tumblr.com/ AfroPetite

          Chris is going to have to truly hit rock bottom for him to “get it”. Federal prison, someone close to him dying, some sort of close brush with death, etc.

    • http://TheNewEve.com/ Bunni
    • The Champ

      I agree that the Rose situation should have been handled differently. He probably should have just come out and said “Look, I’m not playing this year, so stop asking me about it.”

      • Shamira

        Agreed. Also, his brother should have shut his trap ALL the way up.

    • Yonnie

      Gawker also wrote about it in a similar tone and I’m happy to say that the commenters there went in as well. How is it possible that the first though of everyone who read the article was, “this is rape,” yet NO ONE in their offices thought this before publishing it.

  • Msdebbs

    Nuff said…

    • The Champ

      I hate when pics like this have faulty grammar.

  • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com/ Tristan

    while the memes and such were funny, i had no issue with derrick rose sitting out last year, we seen far too many penny hardaways and grant hill career arcs.

    as for chris, its disgusting what happened to him and its sad writing has all been reduced to pandering to audiences and getting hits. if this was a blind item story, no one in their mind would dare blame the boy but because its a singer youre not fond of youre just going to ignore the egregious act. to shamiras point chris, obviously not considering this incident, needs to stop acting like a victim, you dont get to tell people move on, you just stay low and keep firing like kobe after denver.

    • The Champ

      “if this was a blind item story, no one in their mind would dare blame the boy but because its a singer youre not fond of youre just going to ignore the egregious act.”

      good point

  • Todd

    First, f*ck Jezebel as a staf, a website and a m*therf*cking crew! Seriously?! Black boys being abused is somehow A-OK? The author needs some revolutionary justice applied to him, period.

    (Also, I’m just going to ignore the whole Derrick Rose thing. The journalistic term here is called burning the lede, mmkay!)

    But going back to the original Guardian interview mentioned, Chris Brown is so obviously traumatized that it isn’t funny. First, there’s the sketchy crew of “shady” guys that “he can relate to.” Ninja, you got platinum plaques and thousands of screaming girls still hot for you, and you relate to the lowest of the low? That’s what we call low self-esteem, children! Plus, there’s the admitted hypersexuality. Finally, this section reminds me a bit too much of ritualized self-injury for comfort:

    Given his evident desire to leave the past behind him, I still can’t understand why last year he got a tattoo on his neck that looks just like the infamous police photographs of Rihanna’s bruised and battered face.
    He has always disputed the resemblance, insisting it’s just a “random
    woman”, so I ask if he’d realised it would be misconstrued and cause so
    much fuss.

    “I really don’t care. A tattoo’s a tattoo; it’s my body, my skin.”

    Suddenly he is sulky and petulant. “My favourite line is, ‘Fuck you.’ I like
    giving the world a big fuck you. Every tattoo I have is a big fuck you.
    So it’s just, like, this is just me, and I’m the guy who’s going to be
    just the same guy at all times.”

    Flip the genders on this, and it’s worldwide headline news, filled with new specials and treacly pianos and women showing how strong they are in the face of abuse. With Chris Brown, welp…he deserved what he got. That girl knew he’d grow up to be an abuser! GTFOHWTBS

    Two, this kinds of changes the background around the infamous Chris Brown/Rihanna incident. After al, there was talk it was sparked after his manager sent him a racy text…a manager that was alleged to have slept with Chris Brown when she was 39 and he was 16. Now, we can safely move that affair from the “possibie” column, to the “HYFR” column, especially since we know that being victimized once means that you are likely to be victimized again. While I in no way condone his behavior, the incident seems less evil and more tragic than it did at first blush.

    Three, this ties into this article I read about a series of studies done about sexual abuse in the prison system. Of particular note is the face that 9.5% of juvenile detention inmates have been sexually abused, 7.7% of them have been abused specifically by staffers, and 95% of the staffers abused were WOMEN. Apparently, the ladies of the juvy hall can’t keep their hands off the merchandise and have a think for boy snacks. :( Let a bunch of male staffers abuse girls like that, and the firings and resignations would be headline news. Apparently, though, it’s OK for boys, and particularly Black boys (since they are more liklely to be abused by staff) to be sexually abused by women. Maybe this explains the whole Black-men-as-sexually-skilled phenomenon. When you’re taught from a young age that you have to hump right to survive, that’ll give you warped views about women. :(

    Lastly, to completely destroy your faith in humanity, I have a Reddit thread for you: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/v73r4/men_who_have_been_raped_by_women_can_you_tell_us/

    Enjoy! :)

    • kidvideo

      The spirt of 2Pac got into Todd for this comment…Hit’em up, indeed.

    • LMNOP

      “Two, this kinds of changes the background around the infamous Chris Brown/Rihanna incident. After al, there was talk it was sparked after his manager sent him a racy text…a manager that was alleged to have slept with Chris Brown when she was 39 and he was 16. Now, we can safely move that affair from the “possibie” column, to the “HYFR” column, especially since we know that being victimized once means that you are likely to be victimized again. While I in no way condone his behavior, the incident seems less evil and more tragic than it did at first blush.”

      I had no idea about this, but it makes sense that this would have really upset him.

    • Yonnie

      Man. That Reddit thread.