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New York City Approves ‘Poor Door’ for Apartment Building



In “Separate, But Equal” news, New York City gave the green light to Extell Development so that they may install a separate entrance for affordable housing tenants, who make 60 percent or less of median income.

So, I get it. You’re providing lower income tenants with the opportunity to dwell in a more expensive area of New York. But it’s in a “don’t get a twisted, you still a bottom bitch” type way that doesn’t curl all the way over for me. I’m halfway expecting those in the affordable housing program to be standing in line outside of this “poor door” asking for gruel. Geez.

Also, I wonder if there are any consequences for entering the dough door (I made this up, just now; not the official name) when you’re poor. Like, I really have this urge to go through the rich folks door and hitting them with the Bridesmaids quote, “Help me, I’m poor.”

That should go over well.

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  • Val

    Wtf! I’m thinking the city being apart of this is good grounds for this being unconstitutional.

    • Tonja (aka Cheeks)


    • Depends on what the city agreed to. Worst case scenario, they could just give the money back and build what they want.

  • Razzaq

    118th and 5th ave has a building with seperate condo and rental entrances, no doorman, no package holding area etc etc, i assume this will be a similar set up

    • Tonja (aka Cheeks)

      That is so interesting… like, you live in the same building, though. And I’d imagine… have access to the same common amenities. I’m sure the more “luxury” dwellers may have access to more but the segration is insane lol.

  • ya know…i wonder whose idea this is (owner or designer)? Is it typical to have separate doors from condos and rentals? Is it based on building layout?

  • Nubia Ma’Belle

    I was not surprised by this at. all. My sister has lived there for the past 7 years and my little brother, around 2. Every year I have gone to visit the city, it has becoming increasingly hostile to poor people in subtle ways (i.e. increasing police presence in poorer neighborhoods, “urban renewal” projects etc.).

    I have read in some articles that the amenities are locked and unavailable to rent controlled tenants in addition to them having a separate entrance. Not only that, the exclusivity is a marketing tool to the rich like, “these are only available to you! Those underlings on the other side of the building will (literally) watch you live in the lap of luxury from behind the glass!” It is really disgusting.

    The scary part is that other cities are watching NYC and following suit. I live in KY and our city mayor has said himself that he wanted to do a cultural revitalization similar to the way NYC and Portland (meaning supporting initiatives to push poor people as far to the peripheral as possible to make room for “hip” attractions like coffee shops and local shops).

    I am all for embracing “culture,” but not at the expense of someone else’s. Next thing you know, we will be back to the labels above the doors–except this time they will read “haves” and “have-not’s”

    • Tonja (aka Cheeks)

      SMH, ugh… any reason to separate folks so that people think they’re superior to others.

    • Travel more. The reason behind this stuff isn’t the rich as much as the cop and nurse family in Middle Village who doesn’t want a “certain element” living nearby or the rich dude who got a sweet deal on a rest stabilization place. People don’t understand the chess moves going down.

    • It ain’t even urban renewal. It’s urban reneging. The thing with gentrification, urban renewal or whatever the city officials/developers want to call is that it’s not at renewal if residents are displaced. But this ain’t new, they just stuntin like the forefathers. Maybe this is why the powers that be give no flags at all.
      I grew up in Chicago and saw this. My classmates and professors talked about it at length
      in architectural THEORY. If it’s to be deemed renewal the community has to be there and be active participants in the process. Otherwise, ninjas STILL sneaking in that pool and the basketball court, and the rich well-offs still coming on the otherside to buy some narcotics.
      They can back door deez n*ts.

  • RewindingtonMaximus

    As someone who worked for low income housing…..I support this notion.

    I hate gentrification, but I hate the city’s initiative to combine the poor and the rich together to make it seem like the rich aren’t trying to snuff out the poor. They are. So stop lying to us. Let it be what it is. The elite think we are inferior. Aye, I’d be pissed too if I pay top dollar for my home, and on the next floor, shorty got the same apartment as me for 1/4th of what I pay, simply because she got 2 kids and an EBT card. I’m not with it.

    they need better arrangements, but better than that, they need to refocus efforts on diminishing the reasons why poor people do stupid ish (better jobs in the hood, better food in the hood, less police presence and more oppurtunities to keep knuckleheads off the street by engaging them with promising skills)

    • Real talk, the problem is middle class hoods in Brooklyn and Queens and their snob zoning BS. A few random hoodrats in a middle class hood wouldn’t hurt the middle class and would do the hoodrats some good. Then there’s the whole rent stabilization hustle which is driving the whole gentrification thing. People seem to have trouble with the whole “money is fungible” concept.

      • RewindingtonMaximus

        If they want to put some poor people in middle class neighborhoods, then put them in a program that guarantees education and a job that befits the financial status of that neighborhood, because they can’t take the projects with them, it helps mo one at that point.

        • i agree. makes no sense living in a community where you can’t take advantage of any of the resources like decent schools, food, less crime, better jobs, after school programs, neighbors that might actually care, parks, swimming pools.
          so i wonder how they expect this poor door to work…it’s like diet segregation.

  • The Black Dahlia

    What are the logistics? How can anyone who lives in the building be prevented from entering from any door? How does it work?

    By the by, “Obsidian” is a troll who is bad mouthing black women on WHITE Mens’ Rights Yaktivist sites. Don’t engage him over here!

    • h.h.h.


      • The Black Dahlia

        I don’t really want to promote it but he blogs at as the only black blogger. He mainly blogs about how “the black community” is the “canary in the coal mine” for white America and how in just a few years, whites will be just as dysfunctional as he thinks we black folk are, particularly black women. He goes really hard in the paint on black women in the comments section saying we are the worst women on earth and not desired by any group of men mainly because of our behavior. Some old white guys there are agreeing with him. He spam posts Tommy Sotomayor videos. His blogs are considered “eye openers” for the white readers as they consider his opinions their front row peak into “the black community”.

        He frequently mentions this site and the people on it too.

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