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Maybe You’re Single Because You’re…Wait, Who Gives A Fuck?

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Last week, we published “Maybe You’re Single Because You’re Wack” — a piece from Dustin Seibert articulating possible reasons why some of the more physically attractive and financially fit women in his sphere of influence seemed to be perpetually single. Like the rest of Dustin’s work on VSB, it was a long, verbose, and admittedly entertaining read. (“You can dress like a bag of shit and not be a wack person” made me laugh aloud.)

It — the piece itself and the response it generated — also reminded me why we don’t publish this type of content anymore. Not because it was controversial or offensive or insulting or anything like that. The title of this post has “fuck” in it, for chrissakes. We’re generally not in the business of minding whether people’s sensibilities are aggrieved when they read our content. Because fuck you. But because the premise — both structurally and conceptually — is ancient. And not ancient in the way that a Christmas standard that still makes you feel good even though you’ve heard it 20,000 times happens to be. But ancient like a VHS player. Or a Von Dutch trucker hat.

Creating a platform where one person (usually a man) tells other people (usually women) exactly how fucked up their dating and relationship lives are is a dependable way to get a consistent reaction to what you’re writing and/or saying. And, to be honest, this is one of the reasons why VSB started off as a place where most of our content was dating/relationship/sex centric. Both Panama and I knew that it would be the quickest way to cultivate an audience and amass a following. Sure, we attempted to add some nuance and wit and balance to it — and I believe we were better at it than most — but ultimately we weren’t much different than the dozens of blogs, pundits, and personalities also building a brand off of this.

In the past few years, we’ve been very intentional with expanding our content and changing our editorial focus. And a byproduct of this change has been us writing and publishing progressively less and less and less of that type of content. Because if we wanted to be considered a progressive and relevant and unique space, we couldn’t continue having our brand defined by those types of pieces.

Most importantly, while there’s nothing wrong with responding to a query from an individual woman — or perhaps addressing a question about a hyper-specific situation — there’s just an inherent uneasiness and off-putting hubris in guys volunteering “how to get chose” advice to women collectively. Even if it’s not intended to be interpreted this way, it often comes off as “Listen to me, foolish women, so you’ll have a chance of getting with a guy like me.” Also, racial and social context matters. We (Black men and women) have heard and read and watched reports and blogs and specials and stories and plays and movies about man shortages and uneven ratios and Kim Kardashian ad nauseam. We know that, for myriad reasons, the numbers are skewered in Black men’s favor. Which is why a Black guy getting on a platform to tell Black women why they’re “failing” at dating is specifically reductive, myopic, and even, at times, cruel.

Even as Dustin pointed out in his piece, “wack” men don’t seem to have much trouble getting chose. Or, specifically, being the chooser. And this status is in large part due to this numbers inequality that everyone already knows about. Which is why “Maybe You’re Single Because There’s Just A Lot More Of You With Your Shit Together Than There Are Of Us” or “Maybe You’re Single Because Slavery, Structural Racism, And The Criminal Justice System Has Combine To Created A Society Where Millions Of Black Men Are Permanently Disqualified From The Dating Pool” or “Maybe You’re Single Because There’s Nothing Wrong With Being Single” or “Maybe You’re Single Because You Were Raised Right” would have been much more appropriate and relevant angles.

The best one, though, would have been — and will always be — “Maybe You’re Single Because You’re…Wait, Who Gives A Fuck?” Because there are so. many. fucking. reasons. why someone may or may not be in a relationship. And one of the biggest factors is something we have absolutely no control over: sheer luck. Unless you believe that life is like The Adjustment Bureau, where our relationship fates are predestined (and partially controlled by John Slattery), something as small as a decision to catch the 9:50am bus on September 14th, 2012 instead of the 10:15am bus that day could have made the difference between you being single or married. Or married or single. Or alive or dead. Or whatever the fuck. And because of that inherent whatever the fuck-ness that ultimately determines whether you will happen to meet a person you happen to be compatible with and happen to be interested in and you both happen to be available, trying to break down why person A is single and person B is not even though they share the exact same traits is a fruitless exercise. It like trying to determine why one leaf blew onto the street and another blew onto the sidewalk. And when that is your question, the answer, again, is always “Who Gives A Fuck?

Again Dustin is a very talented writer, and I look forward to him continuing to write long-winded, passionate, and hilariously inappropriate pieces. I’m beyond proud that we’ve evolved to this ambiguous but conspicuously Black place where people like him and Natalie and Alex and Jozen and Shamira and Agatha and whoever else contributes to VSB can be, for lack of a better term, free. But evolution also means you leave some shit behind. And “Maybe You’re Single Because You’re Wack” should have been left in 2010.

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for GQ.com And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at damon@verysmartbrothas.com. Or don't. Whatever.

  • The black blogosphere needed a swift kick in the a**, a playful battle of the seckses turned into an all out assault on black women with ninjas like Dusty leading the charge. Politics aside, what keeps me hanging around VSB was that it was one the first places that saw what was going on and changed directions. It was something I could respect. I’m glad Dusty go dragged because years ago he wouldve praised as women relaxed and took notes about how to be “cooler” to appease some ninja who doesn’t see her as worthy as is.

    • panamajackson

      I don’t know that I agree that women would have been quick to accept that a few years ago.

      While what he wrote could have been approached differently, nobody is above making a mistake. Or at least realizing that the direction they took couldn’t be done differently. Damon has been dragged before. I’ve been dragged before. It happens. Why be so gleeful about this in particular? Damon and I both got dragged for damn near the same type of thing: shortsighted presentation.

      • cakes_and_pies

        When y’all got dragged, did either one of you hold court in the post for three days being rude and arrogant to everyone that didn’t like your piece? Did you concede to thinking the piece could have been written better or double down on how wrong everyone was reacting? That’s the difference.

        • Now now, if a writer feels disrespected he has every right to clap back at the commenter and ignore the whole a** post addressed to him.

        • panamajackson

          I mean…keep this in mind. Artists, and that’s essentially what we are, are sensitive about their sh*t.

          So, it took some prodding and real introspection – which can come for anybody at any time mind you – for both Damon and I on our respective posts to truly have those moments of learning and growth.

          And ultimately, isnt’ that all you can expect out of ANYBODY? Learning lessons and growing from them?

          As a writer, that’s the most we can expect from Dustin. Same as with me or Damon. I ain’t even saying anybody has to like him (or me, or whoever) but I’m saying folks do deserve a chance to learn from sh*t. Damon and I both have.

          • cakes_and_pies

            That’s what i would expect, but my expectation are low for this one.

            • Question

              Why? If it were a different subject matter, would your expectations still be low?

              • cakes_and_pies

                If it’s a story backed up by facts and examples, no. But he keeps purposely aggravating the situation, so my expectations remain low because of that.

                • Question

                  No denying that. I’m surprised for all his good writing (some other pieces he’s done have been quite well written) that he’s still in his feelings.

                  • cakes_and_pies

                    I MIGHT look up some of his other work. I’m not that petty.

          • Damon Young

            “So, it took some prodding and real introspection – which can come for anybody at any time mind you – for both Damon and I on our respective posts to truly have those moments of learning and growth.”

            This is an important point. As someone who has gone through it before, it can take awhile for you to be in a more objective space. Basically, if you feel like you’re being attacked — rightly or wrongly — the first instinct is to double down and defend yourself. Instead of asking “wait…why am i being attacked?” it’s “wait…eff you too!”

        • RewindingtonMaximus

          If he clapped back, it was mostly cause people took shots at how he looked, his skin color, and the ethnicity of his wife.

          NOT HIS WORK. NOT HIS OPINION. No, people was talking s h i t about HIM. That’s fucked up no matter how you call it, and everybody deserved whatever grudge they got coming back to them.

          • Pinks

            I feel this right here. I’m not going to say people deserved what they got because I didn’t see it, but there is a certain way to express your displeasure with the man’s work without going for HIM. The first person who came with “But ya wife ain’t even black” took it somewhere it didn’t need to go. I really don’t want to go back but y’all making me feel like it lol

            • Epsilonicus

              its like 1200 comments. Don’t do that to yourself lol

              • Pinks

                bwhahahah..you right. it’s the messy chick in me that wants to read and be like zaaaaaaaaaaammnnnn

                • Epsilonicus

                  Thats too much effort to be messy lol.

                  • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

                    For real..i stepped away for the weekend came back and was like ‘Daaaaaaayuuummn’. I ain’t trying ta go back through all of that. But I knew there would be some follow-up because, you know. Feelings.

              • Angel Baby

                Yeah I haven’t been on in a while but Im glad I missed the fight! :) Miss you guys!!!! Happy Holidays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                • Epsilonicus

                  Same to you!!

            • cakes_and_pies

              That was uncalled for.

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              You don’t need to read it. But basically one chick felt the need to read his bio, bring up his wife’s ethnicity, and then like 20 other people ran with it, and started talking mad s h i t. But the one chick took it even further, and made claims that he don’t have the right to talk about black relationships if his wife aint black.

              It’s 2015, I sincerely do not have the time nor energy to read some old 1930 j ig g e r boo back door porch monkey logic like that. It’s flat our racist and I do not understand why on VSB of all places, I’m supposed to tolerate that s h i t. Not on my watch. I will come at the neck for anyone pulling that s h i t. And yea, I know exactly how fucked up what I just typed comes off, but I mean EVERY SINGLE WORD.

              We are supposed to be better than what our opposition thinks of us. And here is our safe haven. I will not let it be sullied by the misguided few.

              • XYZ

                Exactly. Which showed just how WHACK they truly are.

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  Indeed. They can dish it but know damn well they can’t take it.

                • I really hate the way you spell wack lol

              • Cleojonz

                When I saw that one comment I stopped reading the rest of the comments. It was just too much.

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  It just wasn’t worth it. I tore her a new one, and all she could say was “boy bye”.

                  Because that’s what losers say.

                  • Anonymous

                    I told you “boy bye” because that is the best you can say to a low IQ simpleton who lacks the social skills and comprehension of a goldfish. I’m sorry that you were confused by my dismissive retort.

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      Nah you got ripped to shreds, you had nothing to offer back, and you still can’t take an L.

                      It’s alright. I’ve destroyed plenty of people in my time, and you didn’t require much effort. Thanks for being so simple.

                    • Anonymous

                      When you tell someone that his message will be poorly received because a) it is too narrowly tailored and b) of who he is as a person, and a third party’s response is, essentially, “I DO WHAT I WANT AND HE CAN TOO,” there IS nothing to say.

                      If you didn’t understand that, if you viewed it as a personal attack, if it made you feel like you needed to “rip me to shreds,” it is because you–you individually–are intrinsically lacking in a quality that is requisite to the sorts of exchanges I willingly participate in. I lack the hubris to sit here and think my keyboarding is going to give you what X years of education, social experiences and your undoubtedly weary mother were unable to.

                      That is an “L” I take daily. Cause some people just ain’t got no sense.

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      You brought up his wife, then proceeded to talk about how he had no right to talk about Black anything because his wife was Puerto Rican. You then proceeded to go in on that point over and over again.

                      That s h i t was disgusting. Say whatever you want, I could careless. You looked disrespectful and minute back then, and surprise! Nothing changed.

                      You talking like you had a valid point. Too bad you didn’t show it the proper way then. Don’t pull your revisionist history bull s h i t on me and kindly leave out the parts where YOU CROSSED THE LINE. That’s a negative captain, YOU FUCKED UP, I’m calling you out on it, that’s YOUR problem if you don’t like it.

                    • Anonymous

                      *couldn’t care less

                      Illiterate.

                      My point was never about what he did and did not “have the right to say.” I didn’t even comment on his article or to what degree I agreed or disagreed with it. The word “right” was never used, nor was its many synonyms.

                      My point was and remains that he was the WRONG PERSON to convey his message and he was lighting his own behind up because it would NOT be well-received from him. And 30,000 posts later, I think my point was pretty well proven.

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      And she still avoids what I said. This is what I mean by weak.

                      All of this. Just weak.

                    • Anonymous

                    • Actually you saying that he was the Wrong Person, was worse, if you think about it. It’s one thing to say he’s wrong for this and that reason, you basically, said he was disqualified by the fact he chose to marry outside his race…which if you apply consistently as a principle, applies to tons of black men and women.

                      At least if you had based it on what he said, you’d be disqualifying him base on his opinion and not who he is as a type of person.

                    • Anonymous

                      I disagree. I was merely advocating for emotional intelligence. To paraphrase what I said there: no self-respecting Black woman is going to be berated as deficient for being single by a man who didn’t even marry a Black woman.

                    • Question

                      Lets be real – who he married didn’t matter. He could’ve married Viola Davis, Lupita Nyongo and Sanaa Lathan, at the same time, and we still would’ve had our guards up. We’re tired of the narrative.

                      So who he married was just ammo, but the gun was already cocked with the target locked.

                    • Guest

                      No it matters. Because it was his thinly veiled attempt to give advice to a woman about getting married who he himself wouldn’t marry. If he was just complaining about black women, that’s one thing. Pretending he wants to improve the inferior black woman by telling her about herself…..while not being hitched to a black woman already benefiting from his own advice makes him look even more stupid.

                    • Question

                      Oh, so you were ok with his contents until you realized he was married to a Puerto Rican?

                    • Guest

                      There’s no black and white. There’s varying levels to this sh**t. It made a bad situation worse. That’s like hearing a doctor giving bad advice on how to do surgery. Then turns out his azz aint even a surgeon.

                    • Question

                      Exactly. We were already on edge because of the subject matter – and his being married to a Puerto Rican made a bad situation worse. But lets not act like it was only then that we were weary.

                      The title alone made us weary. The first 5 sentences confirmed our weariness. And the rest of the post was a slow rise of the mercury.

                    • DustyKnuckles

                      I don’t understand, Puerto Rican can’ t be black now?

                    • jolly

                      But. But. But. Who ever said Puerto Ricans are not Black??? I’m a NYer and I know too many Puerto Ricans proudly flaunting their Taino, Spaniard and yes Black heritage. Why people not similarly mad about Obama’s use of “popping off” and screaming misappropriation, or did we forget that he’s half white and heck was raised by a white woman? That hasn’t seemed to disqualify him from speaking on black issues…

                    • Anonymous

                      All Puerto Ricans are not recognizably Black. It is not a phenotypically homogeneous country.

                    • jolly

                      Didn’t realize we were talking based on phenotype. This too is the American curse.

                    • Anonymous

                      In my experience, the one drop rule is a standard that is exclusive to the U.S.

                    • jolly

                      You’re right given a conversation I had with a Brazilian the other day. She’s mestizo by her own definition, yet knowing that most of the African slaves in South America were in Brazil….also knowing what I know about Brazil’s colorism issues I just looked at her like…you got it! Except if this was Jim Crow I wonder which section you would be allowed to sit in. lol Whites or Coloreds?

                    • Guest

                      She isn’t black. Now shut up. He was talking about non latin, Africa to US black women. Don’t bullsh**t with the semantics.

                    • jolly

                      Lol. Okay arbiter of the race gates. Your internet tantrum throwing is wack. By the way, What part of Africa you from…lol? Or is that semantics too? I’ll shut up when I’m ready thank you.

                    • jolly

                      Lol. Your internet tantrum throwing is hilarious. No, I will not shut up…thanks for clarifying the race of someone you don’t know oh merciful arbiter of racial assignments. Africa to US black women…how much do you know about the slave trade and slavery in the Americas? lol, which part of Africa you from by the way? Or is that just a question of semantics? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9ced57497d51c9a97aefa33e8dff4ae17ed90398c99d8775ff65f49e57cd934.jpg

                    • Guest

                      My family still owns the slave plantation our elders were from, I know who our families slave master was. He is also my great great grandfather. That being said…this was 25 days ago…….and you’re posting meme’s like it’s fresh off the presses? Girl……..Get your life.

                    • jolly

                      Lol, so the answer is no. Happy Holidays !

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      Not I. Speak to Anonymous about that. I know the difference, can’t be a life long Brooklyn boy and not know that simple fact. But some chicks love to see any woman not Black as somehow devil made and inferior. It ain’t like we colored folks don’t have enough issues externally, not trying to internally have have a battle for better ethnicities too.

                    • Guest

                      Only reason you thought it was disgusting is because you yourself desire a Puerto Rican and feel a black woman isn’t worthy of even mentioning the race of another nonblack woman. She’s better than I am, all this discussion. I think you can suck a bag of puerto rican d*cks far as I am concerned and be done with it.

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      And the only reason you’re just named Guest is because you exemplify the flithest, most worthless trash possible. It’s always cute to pop off when you show no true signs of yourself.

                      Your entire existence is pathetic. You really get off waiting til the conversation is done, picking your spots to make random statement you know you don’t need to be responsible for because…who knows you? Who can see you? No one…well because you are no one. Nothing at all. Insignificant since day 1. You should because proud.

                    • Guest

                      Guest means visitor big dummy where’d you get the rest of all that weird stuff? You’re crazy. Look how crazy you are. You probably wish you could shred a woman up and eat her on a tortilla…..all that nasty pinned up anger coming out on the internet in front of God and everyone else. I’m screenshotting this. It’s weird.

                    • holychick

                      So you feel good about yourself claiming to have verbally ripped a woman to shreds? Since when did it become a crime to have opposing view points? I was taught that men are to protect and honor women. Getting on the internet to call a woman a loser does not make you a winner in my eyes.

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      Neither does one person using multiple recently created Disque names to make multiple comments and then up vote themselves.

                    • Guest

                      No one seriously gets *ripped to shreds* on the internet. That’s crazy. People have real lives outside of this, keep telling yourself this, you don’t know any of these people and your opinion is not as strong as you think it is……your names are vague, your little pictures are hard to see and you cannot personally attack someone you haven’t even breathed the same air with. Step back……look around. Get out of this virtual reality.

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      And real people don’t take the time out to secure anonymous names and bounce around to talk s h I t , and yet you here you are, a true master at it.

                      Who needs the reality check and breath of fresh air again?

                    • Guest

                      Guest is no more anonymous than Rewindingblahblahblah. Neither is a Government Issued name. I am Guest…..when someone says some sh**t like, you’re a whiny weird internet douche bag, it was Guest that said it because Guest said it cause I am Guest. Guest is my name. What do you mean there’s no more candy? My name is Guest and I LOVE Candy.

              • True

                It’s funny how faux offended you were by the comment, but not by the article ;) And I’m PRETTY sure I know why………..

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  Well your mom clearly isn’t complaining.

              • Guest

                No one said anything cruel about his wife. I think many men feel that a black woman dare not offend other women of other races so the immediate protection of all things non black woman seems like the most logical thing to do.

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  Your reading comprehension skills are always questionable

                  • Guest

                    Oh please. We aren’t doing the *reading is fundamental*, *get hooked on phonics* *you can’t read* bs of old….this is not AOL I did not get 450 minutes free on a disc. You keep saying everyone is TRASHING his wife, in a DISGUSTING way, but I have yet to see anyone say anything other than she is Puerto Rican and that’s it. THAT’S IT. So you want to have lightskinndidty kids and you have a crush on Jenny from the Block….nobody trashed her no matter what nationality makes your peenny weeny hard.

              • JanuaryBabe

                Tell it!!!!!…..didn’t read his article but like your stand!…..

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  Trust me, it doesn’t hurt to read, it isn’t as bad as it might seem given the comments. Thank you however, that’s that’s a nice vote of confidence.

            • Agatha Guilluame

              Yo…he kept saying black women in his post…so who is wife is matters. If I was talking shyt about all black men but I was married to a white man I bet people would be giving me ALL of the side-eyes.

              • menajeanmaehightower

                I noticed him mentioning his wife’s ethnicity the first time he wrote something on here and I was like “oh, he’s one of those guys.” @AfroPetite:disqus called him out for it and i agreed with her.

              • jolly

                So Puerto Ricans are not black? Or not black enough that if you marry one, you lose your black card?

                • Agatha Guilluame

                  All Puerto Ricans don’t identify as black. I know black identified Puerto Ricans and Puerto Ricans that would cuss you for insinuating they were black/morena. I’m speaking as someone who grew up in NYC. And went to school with my fair share of Puerto Ricans.

                  • jolly

                    Fair Enough. But just like our Dominican brothers and sisters, whether or not they choose to identify or not…they black. Taye Diggs’ kid?Black. Obama? Black. Period. The Jack & Jill types that grew up thinking they were “different black” or paperbag test affirmed? Black. At least per genes…and our society’s social construct. They are black. The phrase skinfolk ain’t always kinfolk exists for a reason and color though ambiguous and stupid as it may be to base something off (thank you racism) has dominated people’s psyche so much that I attribute the former examples to brain poisoning.

                    I don’t know,it’s just a twisted long road if we asking for people to identify as black before they pop off about black anything. Look at Rachel damn Dolezal?!?! What is the perfect combination of genotype, phenotype, and identification choice that allows one to talk about being black, especially in a country like ours where people have been “passing” for white (until Dolezal)
                    for centuries? I’m not defending his article wholeheartedly, in fact I think maybe he should have left race out of it.
                    There was one paragraph in particular I found fault with:

                    “That said, it’s an incredibly wack, sell-out-ass move for black folks of either gender to write off dating their own. I take umbrage at the idea that black women are inherently recalcitrant or that black men are naturally shiftless and disloyal; the only valid reason I can come up with for a black person unwilling to date their own is that they hate what they see when they look in the mirror.”
                    (Upon another read though I’m like ok, your opinion on the whole preference of dating thing. As to the stereotypes he built upon and the judgement he made on those people hating themselves as a result of their “preferences”, eh….)

                    I just personally didn’t see it as a pointed attack on black women. In the least. I mean from the cover photo that was chosen it seemed more of an essay on “wack” people by the author’s own definition with the freedom for everyone to disagree. He spoke about “wack” black men too and I guess I just read it as (arrogant as it may be) a PSA forcing people to introspect before they cherry picked some minutiae (whereas Damon pointed out in this article could be as unscientific and unplanned as a leaf blowing one way or the other) as to why they were single. That furthermore, even the tagline states: Maybe it’s you, not them. Something that would apply to only those men AND women both single AND complaining about the wackness of the dating pool. As with everything—introspection and I guess the responses has caused this author to introspect himself.

                    • Agatha Guilluame

                      But when did you read his post…the day of or AFTER he heavily edited it? Because it was black women this and black women that. The title spoke about “wack” people but the content was directed at black women.

                      Even post edit.

                      Also, I get what you’re saying but how someone identifies has merit too. So his wife could be visually black but if she saw herself as something outside of that…something a part from that…and that was the narrative in their household. That would say a lot. And it seems like Dustin and his wife do see her as something set apart from black. I mean it’s in his bio and in his writings…”his Puerto Rican wife”. That speaks volumes.

                      And I know a lot of black latinos/hispanics that identify as Latino/hispanic first and black second, if at all.

                      Either way, he’s lost his ability to speak to black women.

                      In the same way, if I married an asian man, I’d lose the privilege of telling black men about themselves.

                      Dems the breaks.

                    • jolly

                      Didn’t realize there were heavy edits, definitely read it a day or so after.

              • Mochasister

                And rightly so.

            • U can read em and report back…. Cuz nah.

              • Pinks

                noap. i like my eyesight

          • Wellllll. I critiqued his actual text because he kept insisting that folks weren’t understanding what he wrote.

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              I know. YOu and everyone else who just commented on the work were fine. It was the others going for the neck that was disgusting.

          • Asiyah

            I commented on his work. #notallwomen

            LOL :p

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              I didn’t say all my dear, I know waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than that.

              • Asiyah

                ahhhh I’m just being cheeky, my dear :)

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  Come hang with me soon!

              • True

                Why do you call women “love” and “my dear” in conversations? You do know that it is 2015 and it’s very skivvy to keep doing that. Is the sexism and misogyny of your forefathers so deeply permeated?

                • Hugh Akston

                  I guess….I do not know how many women called me “honey”, “love” in my young life…it never crossed my mind that they hated me, or men in general..

                  it’s simply an expression…don’t go too deep…eh?

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  Open my jeans and find out.

                  • True

                    Petty ninjas like you and Dusty never have enough to fill up their jeans (a 28 Short, I’m guessing?). That’s why they throw tantrums with women. They’re not brave enough to take their complaints directly to the god that didn’t bless them in that department. Eventually they settle on a non-black women who just want a black man in their bed to act as a living, breathing dild0 and someone to make their Daddy angry LOL

                    • Sad

                      Little peens are dildos now?

                      Do Puerto Rican women make you so insecure that you can’t even think straight?

                      Would it help if I PayPal you dough for some weave?

          • SB

            Not true…I specifically commented on the writing style and verbosity…and the lack of a fresh take on a stale topic. He questioned my intellect and reading comprehension…as if I couldn’t possibly disagree if I would have completed the 10th grade. Like the comment above I find him rude, arrogant, cliché and NOT a “very talented writer.”

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              Welp, I’m not fighting you on that one. If he replied like that, feel free to pop off as much as your heart desires.

          • veryaveragebrotha

            I’m sorry, I have to respond to this, because it’s written from a position of privilege.
            You have the PRIVILEGE of reading an post like that and looking at it objectively, because you don’t belong to a demographic that has been repeatedly attacked and told they are not worthy in the context of relationships. No demographic has been continuously and consistently insulted and denigrated more by society as a whole, with regards to relationships. At virtually every turn there is some a-hole trying tell them why they ‘are not worthy’ in one way or another.
            So yes…surprise surprise when some black women take YET.ANOTHER.PIECE on why they are not worthy VERY personally and respond in kind. Especially when it comes form someone who isn’t even currently dating black women.

            I’m not saying that they should have responded like they did, but context matters, don’t act like it doesn’t.

            • Anonymous

              The ironic bit about this is that Rewind here is specifically referring to me and I didn’t even “take a shot” at the ethnicity of Dustin’s wife. I would have no place to do so as someone who dated interracially before I finally married. I merely pointed out what you have, here–that context matters. Dude was more hurt by my indication that his message would be poorly received than the author was!

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              In this context, you’re right. I’m not a Black woman, so I have the luxury of being objective. I’m the same breathe, I’ve been through enough “Black Men Suck” convo to know it ain’t always about me. I might not like what I’m reading but the people speaking don’t know me personally. It’s not diminishing my character in anyway. It’s not my job to rage at people who say fucked up stuff about my group. I can, but how far am I getting besides writing angry font?

              I’m merely saying, this isn’t gonna be the last time any Black woman here is going to read some s h is t about Black women they aren’t going to like. The goal though is grow better with each discussion, so that when people try to pull the same crap, we have a much better way of handling things than merely just being angry.

              • veryaveragebrotha

                You do realize the irony in saying that they should ‘control’ their anger, while you failed at controlling yours – the anger in your responses was palpable despite having no reason to be personally offended. In a lot of those threads I saw (before I stopped following), you were doing a disservice to the discussion (or what was left of it), your comments were only serving to escalate the anger and reduce civility.
                If you really want to ‘help’ black women as you say, then perhaps you should be less concerned with telling them how they should feel and react and more concerned with understanding how they feel and why they feel that way. Nobody is going to listen to someone who hasn’t taken the time to understand them….just a thought.

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  My responses were based off people going on a tangent and attacking an innocent person. I had no qualms that the author and and his work were up for target practice, but not his wife. She had nothing to do with it. So no, I can’t rock with you on that one.

                  You’re dismissing the fact that I’m not disregarding the fact that Black women would be anything rye over something like that post. That doesnt mean your anger gets to flare up in every direction. I’d day the same thing if we were talking about racism.

                  I’ve got no problem with Black women being angry when they feel attacked. But stick to the origin of your anger, not create a whole bunch of collateral damage. That isn’t just for Black women, that’s for EVERYONE. Ain’t no one exempt from being an a s s h o let when they let their rage blow up everywhere

                  • MsSula

                    Rewind, did we read the same responses? I specifically remember Anonymous saying “his lovely wife”. Nobody said ANYTHING disparaging about his wife (I know I read all the comments… being up at night would do that to you). The mention was that his wife is NOT black. Is that an insult now?

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      They are there. Some were deleted (how interesting) but they were there on Friday.

          • True

            It’s obvious that you feel the same way as Dusty did. Therefore, prepare for the same clapback. And tell your likeminded brethern to also prepare. Black women are not here for it anymore.

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              It’s obvious you’re pointless, yet somehow you left that out.

          • but so what? Happens to women all the time. boo to the hoo.

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              Petty is petty. You wanna be that way, cool.

      • The problem is a lack of perspective.

    • RewindingtonMaximus

      Nah, I don’t agree. Dustin didn’t need to get dragged I said it before. He needed to word the entire article better to avoid people pushing their personal beliefs onto his opinion by covering all bases. But now he knows. Lesson learned. But the backlash he received, a lot of that was personal bull s h i t people had no business bringing to the table.

      To me that showed utter stupidity amongst anything else.

    • -h.h.h.-
    • I don’t think that’s been the case.

      I remember seeing videos of all these “blog relationship/ gender war” back and forth taking place on TV talk shows in the 80’s. The truth is people like Dustin have always been dragged, it’s the lack of generational wisdom being passed that makes it seem like most of this unproductive convos are new or a product of insightful thinking.

      • Freebird

        You nailed it.

  • Brooklyn_Bruin

    You aight with me Dustin, although that will probably bring down your stock.

    I’m more surprised that people focused on particular sentences than others and then brought more baggage to the plane than they could hopefully carry. The way i read it menfolk didn’t fair that well under your astute analysis either.

    So now that you’ve been spanked, you’ve learned your lesson.

    • Agatha Guilluame

      Smh.

  • PDL – Cape Girl

    Maybe Dustin he should have distinguished the wackness of single black women from the wackness of married men creeps that cheat….see wackness can’t be the reason, cause wack. In turn, he would have reconsidered, gathering they were likely cheaters before the nuptials (or wack), further concluding that “wackness” is a disqualifier as to why BLACK women are single. Perhaps?

  • Pinks

    I didn’t even know ish got that real over there. Real talk, once I log in and see the comments are at like 200+, I be giving up. Like, I know somebody already said what I wanted to and I don’t feel like scrolling all the way down lol

    It was comedy though. I would imagine that the author of that piece could’ve expected some dragging – I mean, really. Any time you come up in someplace with guns blazing talking about “this is why y’all can’t get chose,” there’s bound to be some ruffled feathers.

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      I wish disqus made it easier to view huge threads.

    • Baemie St. Patrick

      this. and don’t start off keeping up, but leave and then return to find the threads have quadrupled. NOBODY GOT TAHM.

      • Cleojonz

        This is what happened to me. It was at like 300 wish I can usually catch up on but I had legitimate work to do so I said I’d be back. I came back and they were at 800. So it was a big nevermind lol. And comments are still happening. Hence this article posting.

      • The comments get over 100 I only follow thru my replies

      • God Shammgod

        You guys are spoiled. Before VSB switched to the disqus commenting format, the replies used to get narrow and narrower. By the time you got the fourth reply

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        • Epsilonicus

          I remember this. That ish was soooooooooooo annoying.

          • God Shammgod

            OG commenting struggles.

            Kinda sad we lost all of that commenting history though. Some folks’ entire necks have been saved by that.

            • Epsilonicus

              Now they can run for mayor lol.

              Plus all those battled folks had with Uncle O gone. There needs to be a VSB lockbox for memories like those lol.

              • Nawl, that goes into the sea of forgetfulness. You don’t regurgitate poison to remind yourself how it tasted. Blech.

                • Epsilonicus

                  Its history. Preserving history, whether we like it or not is important lol

                • Sigma_Since 93

                  Why y’all hating on Uncle O??? He definitely brought a diversity to the readership where we could disagree without being disagreeable.

                  • He wasn’t disagreeable to YOU maybe lol. There is more than one way to be insufferable without hurling epithets. He mastered that. Lol

                    • Ughhh. I’m glad he went on his merry little way. I did enjoy doing the para-phrasing for a while.

                    • That was genius and highly enjoyable lol

                    • LMNOP

                      So great! I forgot all about that.

                    • God Shammgod

                      Dog whistle connoisseur, that one was.

                  • LMNOP

                    Without being disagreeable? I don’t remember that part, but if you say so…

                    • Sigma_Since 93

                      O never called your mama, yo daddy, or yo ex into the mix if he disagreed with you.

                    • Wild Cougar

                      You are so wrong about that. You ain’t been around long enough.

                  • Asiyah

                    I miss him sometimes but he got to be too much. Eventually it became a gimmick and I wasn’t sure if he even believed what he was writing anymore or just being deliberately provocative.

                  • Wild Cougar

                    You MUST be joking. Need I remind you…..

                • God Shammgod

                  Eps stands in the mirror and says Bloody Mary 5 times to see what happens.

                  • Epsilonicus

                    I never believed in those myths.

                    I was also the person who got the classroom in an uproar in school but never got the blame for it. *Kanye shrug*

        • Baemie St. Patrick

          I cannot confirm nor deny being spoiled. hmph.

        • RewindingtonMaximus

          That s h i t was the worse for so long. It was like a drink that was getting empty near the bottom

        • cryssi

          I used to just give up on trying to comment, lol. I can’t even read this

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        • ChiefbutnotA_Keef

          Smh.. i forgot about this lmao

        • And I used to twist my phone every which way tryna read that isht lol

          • menajeanmaehightower

            At 1am in the morning!

            • The good old daaaaays

            • LMNOP

              At 1 am, when you’d already missed the chance to be FIRST!!!

        • LMNOP

          Lmao

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        • miss t-lee

          OMG, yes.

        • Lea Thrace

          I remember these days. DO NOT MISS THEM!

      • Pinks

        Liiiiiiiike I go to the bathroom to send my daily crotch shot and see a notification talmbout 37 new comments above. EYE CANNOT.

    • PhlyyPhree

      Look.
      I wanted to reply, but by the time I actually finished doing WORK at work that day? I was half way through my drink

      • Pinks

        I hate when y’all get going on a topic and I gotta actually do real work smh

      • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

        As soon as I read the article and my weekend came around, I pretty much knew I’d never get back to it before the comments topped a G. Nah, son…

  • Ari

    I will admit that I was a little surprised to see that type of article on VSB in 2015. But at the same time, why not throw in a little trivial innuendo/fodder on here from time to time to keep things interesting. As vitriolic as the comments were, I really don’t think much harm was done to the perception and expectations of the brand…

  • Damnpops

    Love your work bruh

  • Dr. She Who Reads

    I’m single. I’m not wack. Sometimes I think I’m not meant to be married like Shonda and Oprah, and then sometimes I feel like I do. I’m conflicted.

    • Asiyah

      me too, except I know that I’m wack.

  • God Shammgod

    *starts subthread on top-ranking thanksgiving sides*

    If anyone says Green bean casserole, they’re excommunicated.

    • Nick Peters

      Stuffing…

      I kick out anyone who brings pumpkin pie to Thanksgiving

      • Baemie St. Patrick

        Every time I read stuffing, I think they use stovetop =/

        IT’S DRESSING DANGIT

        • Nick Peters

          It’s stuffing

          • cakes_and_pies

            You eat your dressing out a foul’s booty hole? Nope.

            • Nick Peters

              Isn’t this the same website were everyone, but me, agreed that eating b o o t y was the new Chex fad For young boogie black people?

              • Epsilonicus
                • QuirlyGirly

                  LOL! Perfect response

              • cakes_and_pies

                Don’t know what you’re talkin’ bout.

                • Nick Peters

                  Eat the b o o t y like groceries

            • Mochasister

              Lol! Oh my goodness!

        • Erica Nicole Griffin

          There’s two options. Stuffing is cooked inside the bird. Dressing is cooked in a pan.

          • Baemie St. Patrick

            #OnlyDressingMatters

        • Mochasister

          And it has to be made out of cornbread. We never used that Stovtop crap.

    • Brass Tacks

      Collard Greens, Dressing, Sweet Potatoes.

      • Epsilonicus

        I feel like sweet potatoes are an underrated food item at thanksgiving.

        • No they ain’t… I ain’t for sweet sh t with my food… Pie filling is not a side.

          • Brass Tacks

            Boy Stop!

          • Epsilonicus

            Your aint sh*tness is showing

          • Baemie St. Patrick

            WHET?! Mac n cheese with that glaze from sweet potatoes?! mmmmmmmmmmOOHHMYGAWD

            • QuirlyGirly

              mmmhhhhalllllggggg- Homer Simpson growl

              YES, YES a 1000 times YES

          • Cleojonz

            I’m with you, I don’t mix sweets with my savories.

        • Pinks

          In general. I’m adding them into our weekly dinners more often. Those and mushrooms.

        • God Shammgod

          Candied Yams are an overrated item though. Keep that sh*t off my plate. Yuck.

        • Brass Tacks

          Not in my family. Thats one of the first sides that gets plated. Along with mac&chz, collards and an extra protein (ham slices, chicken etc..)

        • miss t-lee

          Not at our Thanksgiving.

      • God Shammgod

        *looks at @disqus_eYn5UuFr06:disqus’ response.

        This prompts the bigger question: Stuffing or Dressing?! The Negro Community has long been divided on this.

        • Brass Tacks

          Dressing. I know nothing of this stuff..ing? you speak of.

        • Baemie St. Patrick

          DRES. SING.

        • Stuffing gang

          • Baemie St. Patrick

            it’s definitely over.

            how many of you that call it stuffing are really stuffing the bird?!

            • I call it stuffing cuz one day a young Tristan said what’s that and was told it was stuffing… Actually stuffing a turkey is for them folks on the other end of the melanin scale

              • Baemie St. Patrick

                then you need to come on back. we’re telling you it’s dressing.

                • A rose by any other name wouldn’t smell so sweet… Its stuffing forever.

                  • Baemie St. Patrick

                    bye, Felix.

              • TeeChantel

                I guess…

              • uNk

                Idk bro I suffs my bird….it always comes out more flavorful and not dry. Plus its natural juices from the bird instead of canned broth

            • TeeChantel

              I stuff the bird.

            • uNk

              *raises hand*

        • QuirlyGirly

          Dressing all day! It does not need to be in the bird- just put it on my plate

        • TeeChantel

          Stuffing. I’m from up North.

        • uNk

          See I always thought it was just dressing, up until it goes in the turkey. Then you have…..stuffing

          • miss t-lee

            Dressing is cooked inside the turkey, around the turkey, and in a separate pan off to the side.

        • Julian Green

          Easy. Neither one. Everybody in my family hates stuffing/dressing.

          • God Shammgod

            Where did they make y’all at?!?!

            • Julian Green

              The Green/Martin clans will eat the feet, snouts, ears and intestines off a pig. We’ll fry everything that comes out of the ocean and eat it with toast and half a bottle of Texas Pete. We’ll shove a can of Steel Reserve inside of a Turkey and let it cook because we want to eat and get drunk at the same time.

              But we will not. WILL NOT, eat dressing. Standards have to be maintained.

              • God Shammgod

                You eat the part of a pig that smells like your musty auntie’s undertitty on a hot houston day without baby powder but you too good for some dressing. Nuh uh.

                • Julian Green

                  Ma’am, I prefer my bread free of Salmonella and not tasting like the girl from the dorm with the prison showers.

                  • you haven’t had my momma’s stuffing

        • Mochasister

          Dressing.

      • fxd8424

        Yas!!

    • ChiefbutnotA_Keef

      Defo sweet potato souffle

      • IsitFridayyet?

        That sounds amazing.
        *Googles recipe*

      • TeeChantel

        Nice. Made that for Thanksgiving a couple of years ago.

    • Macaroni and cheese is a 1 seed…. Debate your auntie who steals cigarettes when the box is lying around

      • God Shammgod

        you ain’t ever gonna see me be mad at a proper serving of baked mac and cheese. Never.

    • Superstrings

      Mac & cheese, jambalaya, rice & beans, platanos, seafood dressing

      • God Shammgod

        Sounds like my kind of turkey day!

    • Pinks

      Not a side, but I’m about to advocate that we abandon the idea of the whole turkey. There’s always too much of it left over and I don’t like the dark meat enough to even pretend to make space for it on my plate. I brined and baked a turkey breast between last night and this morning that would make your grandmother’s dentures do the Hotline Bling dance.

      • God Shammgod

        BISH YOU DON’T LIKE DARK MEAT? WHAT DID A CHICKEN THIGH EVER DO TO YOU?!

        I agree that Turkey is overrated. My mom didn’t make one last year and we were more than fine. More space for provisions.

        For a friendsgiving this year I did cornish hens and it went over quite well.

        • AlwaysCC

          we eat bbq for thanksgiving *shrug* i have a traditional meal the next day (or at someone else’s house depending on how much visiting we have to do that year)

          • Amber

            We bbq too for just about any holiday even Christmas. My mother would be outside on the back patio in her snow suit

        • Pinks

          I have horrible flashbacks of eating fried chicken thighs as a kid and having a big fat pocket explode in my mouth because they weren’t cleaned properly. I’m scarred for life.

          Cornish hens are the bomb..especially when the lil wing tips get all crispy. Whoooooo chile

          • IsitFridayyet?

            LOL!! That’s terrible.

          • God Shammgod

            *gags*

      • Epsilonicus

        You. don’t. like. dark. meat.

        http://i.imgur.com/Dqk9q4L.gif

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        Local spot sells Turkey like they sell chicken. Might buy a few cutlets and call it a day

        • Pinks

          Easy and quick! I could also go for a large baked chicken

      • cakes_and_pies

        We had turkey legs one year and ham one year. Finding 1001 way to eat leftover turkey is for the…birds.

        • Pinks

          I see what you did there. Turkey soup, sammiches, casserole, tacos – it’s too much! I want to eat turkey one dang day and be done lol

      • Superstrings

        Dark meat is my favorite. And you use the leftovers to make stew or soup.

        • Baemie St. Patrick

          my mama is the turkey/chicken salad GAWD

      • Baemie St. Patrick

        you like the breast?! whet?

        turkey is overrated but there’s nothing like a juicy turkey leg

        • Pinks

          Breast is best for me! I feel so intimidated by big ole turkey legs lol..

          I will murder a pan of turkey wings though. Baked for hours until they’re falling off the bone? sheeeeiiitttt

          • God Shammgod

            If I could learn to enjoy breast meat maybe my human thighs wouldn’t be their current size.

            • Brass Tacks

              …we not going to act like this comment didn’t happen…

              • Epsilonicus

                I can’t comment on thighs I have never seen

            • Pinks

              *throws 2 dollars in the collection plate for my fellow thunder-thighed sista*

              I think the problem is that most people can’t make breast meat moist. It can be like chewing on cotton panties if not done right

              • QuirlyGirly

                Yup- that sounds about right

              • God Shammgod

                True, but even well-cooked breast chicken to me tastes like what I assume getting bomb head with a condom on feels.

                • Pinks

                  So close, yet so far. Totally figgadeal you. I only eat certain outside chicken breasts, though. Like Popeyes. I can’t afford all that disappointment.

            • MsSula

              “Thick Thighs Save Lives”.

      • TeeChantel

        Have you ever fried your turkey?

        • Pinks

          Nope – I’ve also never cooked a whole turkey so I’m the virgin talking ish about somebody’s stroke game lol

          Someone is bringing a fried turkey this year though, so maybe I’ll be converted

          • miss t-lee

            You’ll be ruint, forever.

          • Erica Nicole Griffin

            May God have mercy on your precious taste buds after that fried turkey comes up and through!

        • I had fried turkey once (ONCE!), and it was so bomb. No one in my family does it, though, so it feels like that one time was a fluke.

      • Sigma_Since 93

        You need to have my clan come through. #leftoversbenone

      • Erica Nicole Griffin

        Just for clarification: it would make grandma’s denture’s dance because it was so good or because it was so bad?

        • Pinks

          lmao because it was good!

          i used salt, sugar, rosemary, thyme, sage, peppercorns and fresh onion slices. it was so moist and yum yum diddy

      • MsSula

        You don’t like dark meat????? How sway? And I thought you were so cool! lollll/

        • Pinks

          It’s my mom’s fault. She only cooked breasts and wings growing up, so that’s what I was used to eating. I can tolerate dark meat, but as a last resort, thanks to the man. He got me eating that and pork.

    • Baemie St. Patrick

      mac n cheese, dressing mashed w/ cranberry sauce and greens are the GOAT

    • TeeChantel

      Mac & Cheese, Dirty Rice, Jambalaya, Sweet potatoes, Collard greens

      • uNk

        At first I was going to say nah to the Jambalaya but my fam always has a pot of gumbo made so I cant knock this

        • TeeChantel

          Jambalaya is amazing with some candied yams

    • IsitFridayyet?

      I’ll go with the only sides truly unique to Thanksgiving, Dressing and Cranberry Sauce.

    • Sigma_Since 93

      Dressing / Stuffing

      • God Shammgod

        You can’t play the middle SS! You have to claim a side! Dressing or Stuffing?!

        • Sigma_Since 93

          My mom makes dressing and my mother in law makes stuffing. I’m Monie In The Middle regardless.

          • QuirlyGirly

            Where you at?

          • Aw, I used to like that show… 10 Nostalgia Points for you

            • QuirlyGirly

              Wait- Wasn’t Monie in the Middle a song?

              • Oh, you right, I was thinkin of “Hey Monie!” ‘Member that cartoon on BET?

                • QuirlyGirly

                  Oh yes!! I loved that show. It was good. But alas BET can’t let things be great.

        • It doesn’t matter. #justeatit

    • Sham really came through and just started singing joyful joyful amidst the chaos

      • God Shammgod

        Just call me that little nucca in Sister Act 2 who hit that falsetto note in Oh Happy Day

    • Dr. She Who Reads

      I was in Publix this morning, and the cashier asked me about Thanksgiving. I said I was making green beans. She responds with “green bean casserole?” I rolled my eyes before I knew it. No, girl, green beans. Black folks don’t eat green bean casserole. Also, she was white.

      • God Shammgod

        There’s one (white) coworker who keeps trying to Americanize my moms thanksgiving spread and I hate her so much.

        My mom made a casserole 3 years ago. We all just looked at it and went straight to the stew. My mom doesn’t do Western recipes well anyway.

    • Dr. She Who Reads

      1. Candied yams
      2. Collard greens
      3. Dressing

    • 1. Mac and cheese
      2. Collards
      3. Fat back

    • Julian Green

      1. Chitlins
      2. Mac and Cheese
      3. Aunt Kitty’s Green. Bean. Casserole.

      • Chitlins is a main dish though.

        • Sigma_Since 93

          Lies!! I want to breathe clean air at dinnertime

        • Kema

          Ewwww! Chitlins

          • None of y’all knows good cooking. Bye lol

        • miss t-lee

          The heyll it is…

          • Lol I will be enjoying some over rice this Thursday, I’m sorry you won’t be partaking.

            • miss t-lee

              Well…you have yourself a grand ol’ time.

        • “Chitlins is a main dish though.”

          This comment is too country for me

      • Epsilonicus

        Chitlins for Thanksgiving? No.

        • Julian Green

          Chitlins are for any occasion in South Carolina.

        • I feel sorry for you.

      • God Shammgod

        #2 – Chante you stay
        #1&#3? Sashay away.

        • Julian Green

          I can understand shading #1, but you’ve never received the gift of Frances Martin’s Green Beans. That woman is 90 years old; after she’s called Home, there will be never be another like it.

    • 1. Mac and cheese
      2. Budweiser
      3. Dressing /stuffing
      4. Collards

    • uNk

      1. Mac and cheese
      2. Dressing/stuffing
      3. Spiral Honey Ham
      4. Dinner rolls

    • Is green bean casserole really a thing? I just find it hard to believe that folks actually make and consume it.

      • Epsilonicus

        It is real

      • I like it. Cambell’s Soup has a great recipe!

        • God Shammgod

          Green bean casserole and chitlins…I…

          *walks away*

      • miss t-lee

        unfortunately.
        It’s hideous.

        • Like, it looks the exact opposite of appealing.

          • miss t-lee

            I’ve had it. I’d much rather just have green beans.
            No need for a half azz casserole.

    • miss t-lee

      Dressing
      giblet gravy
      canned cranberry
      sweet potato casserole with the marshmallows,
      mac and cheese
      broccoli cheese casserole

    • 2011k

      All I need in this life of sin (for Thanksgiving) is some Turnip greens and sweet potato pie. Dassit

  • ChiefbutnotA_Keef

    Discussing the world of relationships and singledom is always fun, I just think the way he approached the topic was “ancient” af. A more interesting perspective would have been to explore why, and if, being single is even a problem in the first place, and then further discussing the future of American relationships (marriage, in general, appears to be becoming obsolete).

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      Advanced economie like ours are going through considerable growing pains.

      More people moving to big cities with relationship opportunities around every corner plus good education and desire for the good life…

      It’s a mess really. People haven’t changed but our environment really has

      • ChiefbutnotA_Keef

        “It’s a mess really. People haven’t changed but our environment really has”

        This is so true.

  • Leggy

    charles Manson was married. So you might want to wipe off that smirk that makes you think you’re somehow better because you managed to find a woman who wants to fu ck you forever.

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