Liberals Are Smart, Conservatives Are Stupid, And…Well, It’s Not That Simple

Liberal!

There are several interesting findings in “Republicans Like Golf, Democrats Prefer Cartoons, TV Research Suggests” — a recent blog in the New York Times that studied “(TV) programs by how they performed with registered voters of either party (as well as independents) compared to a base of all registered voters” and basically proved that we’re just as polarized with pop culture as we are with politics.

For instance:

1. Democrats skewed heavily towards the NBC sitcoms (“30 Rock,” “Parks and Recreation,” etc) and “adult” cartoons — basically, the types of satirical/metafictional comedies that require the viewer to “work” a little more. You could also say that multi-layered dramatic series such as “Mad Men” and “The Wire” — both of which are also favored by Democrats — do the same thing.

2. Republicans, on the other hand, overwhelmingly preferred competitive reality shows such as “The Biggest Loser,” “Survivor,” “American Idol,” and “The Amazing Race” — programs that provide a cathartic release (you invest in a character, and someone wins at the in) but don’t require as much effort from the viewers.

3. There were no surprises when it came to how we view sports, as the Republicans (predictably) skewed heavily towards college sports (football and basketball), golf, and NASCAR, while liberal sports fans seem to be smitten with the NBA, which “… accounted for no fewer than five of the top 20 cable shows on the Democratic list.”

(There was no mention of the NFL, which leads me to believe it’s one of the only things that liberals and conservatives adore equally. Well, that and Beyonce.)

At first glance, some of these findings seem like they could be attributed to geographical differences more than anything else. Take the NBA, for instance. Basketball is a city game with deep roots in highly populated urban areas. Since liberals tend to migrate to and populate cities with large populations, it makes sense that they’d (generally) enjoy NBA basketball more than Republicans, who tend to be more rural. (You can also make the racial argument here — basically, out of all the major sports/professional sports leagues, the NBA is the one where Black players are the most prominent and wield the most power, so it makes sense that conservatives wouldn’t be big fans — but I’ll save that for my upcoming NBA preview.)

Also, most of the satirical/metafictional comedies have protagonists who are obviously liberal — with shows that either take place in large cities or deal with the protagonist being a fish out of water — and it’s easy to see how liberals/people living in large cities would relate to them.

Yet, even after controlling for geography, it’s hard to ignore that in this study, the “liberal-loved” shows tend to be much “smarter” than the programs conservatives enjoy, a fact that reinforces the stereotype that (generally speaking) liberals are typically smarter than conservatives.

Now, before I continue, I have to admit that I’m not particularly objective. While I wouldn’t call myself a liberal — on the Santorum (0) to Steinem (100) scale, I probably rate around 65 — I do believe that liberals are (generally) smarter people than conservatives. Better people? Maybe not. But, definitely smarter.

With that being said, I don’t think the breakdown in preferred viewership is due to intelligence as much as its due to the fact that liberals seem to “value” intelligence more than conservatives. And, in this sense, “value” means “are more likely to do things that “prove” how smart they are.”

Along with gravitating towards shows that you have actually watch to follow and have to be “smart” to truly get, this also includes frequent incorporation of snark and sarcasm in your daily lexicon — devices that imply you’re smarter than the person it’s directed towards — and being more attracted to the types of occupations (law, academia, publishing, etc) where you get daily opportunities to show off your brain. Perhaps the emphasis placed on “smartness” — it’s really a liberal’s most valuable currency — causes many to overcompensate; self-consciously choosing to partake in “smarter” activities to make themselves seem smarter.

You know, the best way to describe my feelings about how liberals and conservatives view intelligence differently would be that if given the choice between being the most successful (success in this sense = financial success) person in the room or the smartest person in the room, while it seems like most conservatives would choose the former, I’m just as certain that the majority of liberals would probably choose the latter. Yet, as smart as we (and yes, I’m including myself) claim to be, when you think about it, that seems like a very stupid decision.

  —Damon Young (aka “The Champ”)

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  • Iamnotakata

    I can definitely see how liberals are smarter and conservatives are more likely to produce the retarded cowboy type…As I witnessed in the debate tonight..Obama came in with the uppercut heard across the internet and the retarded cowboy romney couldn’t recovery from that hit. Obama12!

    • Lia

      LOL and I thought I was the only one who was thinking of the uppercut during the debate…

    • Breezy

      +1 on the uppercut. He rotated with the pivot leg and landed it right from the start….BOOM!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Obama came in with the uppercut heard across the internet and the retarded cowboy romney couldn’t recovery from that hit. Obama12!”

      it’s interesting reading the responses to the debate this morning, and how every is always split down party lines. at one point, you have to ask are people really seeing things this differently or are they being disingenuous?

      • SweetSass

        Democrats live in reality. When Obama bombed last time in the debates because he was damned near asleep… his most vocal critics were liberals. I think Chris Matthews cried and beat his chest and rended his hair over it.

        No matter how stupid, ineffective, or wrong their candidate is– conservatives will fall in line. Remember “Mission Accomplished”? If their guys loses, the rules were unfair… the questions were bad… the other guy was a bully… the moderator is a partisan hack…. whine… whine… whine…

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          I think Democrats live in reality is a bit of an overstatement. Democrats are no more immune to partisanship, especially in viewing debates, than Republicans are.

          There are very few Democrats claiming that Obama misstated his statements on what happened in Libya, though he did.

          • SweetSass

            Liberals complain 1000x more about ‘our guy’ than conservatives do about theirs.

            It’s almost farcical how hard we are on our own representatives. They can almost never live up to the progressive ideals the base holds.

            On the other hand, you see everyday Republicans double down on blatantly false statements that have been fact checked. It takes a very high level of insanity to get them to distance themselves from another conservative.

          • nillalatte

            “Obama misstated his statements on what happened in Libya, though he did.”

            So, you’re saying he didn’t call the attack “terrorism?” I kept watching MSNBC last night and they did show that announcement from the Rose Garden and he did, in fact, refer to it as an act of terror. Whether he specifically said “terrorism” or “act of terror” it is still the same unless you want to debate semantics.

            BTW, along with watching the debate, several friends and I were FBing comments and I kept up with your tweets too. It was quite the entertaining night! :D

          • SweetSass

            Panama, you need to do your research:

            Here is a m’fn link:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYnMqAUn1I

            Fact.

        • iamnotakata

          I agree 100%! @SweetSass Obama was too cool for school with that first debate. However with last nights performance, he rolled in there guns a blaze. That idiot romney couldn’t get his lies out fast enough, he tried to spin a lie about Libya and take the Presidents statements out of context, but his simple mind couldn’t conjur that up quick enough and found himslef look extra dumb . I found romney to be highly disrespectfull in his approcach to the president. But I’m sure Fox News is working up a strong lie in defense of romney and trying to spin in it as Obama being a bully and so on and so……

          • SweetSass

            The look on Rmoney’s face when Candy Crowley fact checked him live was priceless. He was flabbergasted someone would actually call him out on his lie.

  • Malik

    Liberals value LOOKING intelligent. That isn’t necessarily an indictment on the things they like, that’s just how they function. Conservatives value boot straps and individualism. I don’t think I would say liberals are more intelligent than conservatives at all. I mean it strongly depends on how you define conservatism, but there are plenty of conservative young men and women in Ivy leagues across America. Liberals usually lazily/half-arsely co-sign more progressive issues which can give the veneer of intelligence from the liberal perspective because they value certain things that won’t be specified, but we all know what examples I’m referring to, that conservatives don’t and are deemed unintelligent for not supporting them.

    • http://www.twitter.com/IluminatiNYC Todd

      Church!

    • http://www.twitter.com/mcnairian5 Fiveisthenumber

      The Libertarian is probably the smartest. Their tendency to be fiscally conservative and socially moderate, often has them looking a creative ways to solve problems.

      Meanwhile Republicans and Democrats steal the Libertarians ideas and label them kooks as the plunder the ideology.

      • http://www.twitter.com/IluminatiNYC Todd

        +1

      • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

        Survey says…correct answer!!!!

      • http://blackmedici.wordpress.com Black Medici

        Libertarians are not in the same class of politics as republicans and democrats are. Libertarians neither come up with any new ideas nor new perspectives. Every idea or POV that is libertarian was and is covered in either the federalist or anti-federalist papers if you ever choose to read them. The reason why those ideas seem so new, is because America has fallen so far away from it’s foundation, that it’s lost track of where it actually came from.

        Libertarians are also conservative and liberal. Liberal conservatives want a more effective government, which would be smaller but still active. Conservative libertarians want almost no government at all. Neither side has the answers, but at least the debates and clash of ideas are far more intellectually appealing than what the Republicans and Democrats usually offer, which is the equal of a good reality TV show; where debates consist of halls with RED carpets and BLUE walls, and the debaters wear BLUE ties and RED ties, representing which ever side they belong to. If the politicians could paint themselves in RED and BLUE, is there any doubt that they would?

        It is amazing that so many people can accept such blatant, mocking and disrespectful propaganda thrown in the faces of the mass public, and then argue over which side more represents intelligence.

        • Justmetheguy

          “It is amazing that so many people can accept such blatant, mocking and disrespectful propaganda thrown in the faces of the mass public, and then argue over which side more represents intelligence.”

          Word! That’s why I wasn’t even gonna comment today, but the above quote is ON POINT. I get disgusted every time I go to facebook and see the same ole “Obama’s amazing and has this all figured out” or “Romney’s dumb and everything he says is terrible. Ugh I hate him!” posts. It’s insulting and sickening. I’m pissed that last night’s debates didn’t include Gary Johnson. Obama ain’t want it wit him.

          • SweetSass

            Gary Johnson is a joke and has about as much of a chance at winning as a snowflake does surviving in a bonfire. First past the post, winner take all political systems just about guarantee a third party will never win higher office. Ever. Our system is based on coalitions of voting blocs aligning on either side. We are not a parliamentary system nor are we a direct democracy. Basic fundamental government 101 stuff. But then again you’re a libertarian, facts be damned…. Dagny Taggart is a real person to you. Oh well.

            • Justmetheguy

              SweetSass- Please jump off a bridge as soon as possible.

              thanks

              • SweetSass

                …says the person who cannot defend their position thus must resort to petty threats.

                • Justmetheguy

                  Dude, I have no problem defending my position. You’re just not worth talking to. I’m well aware of your fact twisting, refuting points I never made, assuming I believe something that I never stated or even implied that I believed, and going off on tangents about points that are irrelevant to the issues I’m discussing. You’re a professional at spinning things and completely changing a discussion to what you want to talk about and I don’t have the time, patience, or energy to deal with that today. So if you’re not gonna do us a favor and jump off a bridge just do the smart thing (since you’re automatically smart, being a Democrat and all) and just go talk to someone who respects your opinion

                  • SweetSass

                    There is no spin. Ask any political scientist and they will tell you… the way the system is set up… no 3rd party will gain a foothold in politics. FACT.

                    • Justmetheguy

                      There is DEFINITELY a spin. Wanna know how? Cause I never said they would gain a foothhold. You put words in people’s mouths so naturally that you can’t even tell when you’re doing it even though it’s obvious smh. It’s your go to argument tactic. It’s laughable that you can’t see that about yourself though.

                      My point was that Obama would’ve lost a LOT of votes and had a lot of his not so favorable policies EXPOSED if he was debating Gary Johnson, PERIOD. Romney was a joke of an opponent.

                      I don’t support the 3rd party candidate because I think they have a realistic shot at winning. I support them because I want BOTH parties to DO BETTER and produce better candidates. They respond to lost votes. Being the political strategy expert you are you should know that. I want them to HAVE to at the very least bring up the critical issues that they conveniently leave out of debates. I don’t want two people who are guilty of the same sh!t debating each other because they won’t bring up that dirt, because their own sh!t stinks just as bad. Try again Sherlock

                    • SweetSass

                      Yes, please, write in Gary Johnson on your ballot which takes away from Rmoney.

                      And thanks in advance for electing Obama.

                      ;)

                  • African Mami

                    GHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHATDHAMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    jmtg!! (((((((((((((((((((((e-hugs)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    • Justmetheguy

                      Mami! Whatup lil sis? I was just about to ask where you were. I wanted to hear your take on this and last nights debates

                    • African Mami

                      @jmtg,

                      that’s precisely why I’m not commenting……

          • http://blackmedici.wordpress.com Black Medici

            I used to be a democrat; I think unless you are born under abnormal circumstances and you’re black, you will likely be a democrat. Not because they share your values, but rather because you feel they are more concerned with your interests. However, when I went to college I took a course on political psychology and I got to attend guess lectures by democratic and republican strategists: they are all awful and they are all machiavellian or they don’t make it in the business.

            Unlike politicians, these people don’t need to sell themselves, they’re all about accumulating power for their side, and they’re always trying to sign up some new ambitious kid to do all their dirty work. They both actively devise ways to prevent people from voting, whether directly or indirectly. It’s just that one side snitches on the other and spins it like it’s only the other side that does these thing. Many of the ones I met were clearly psychopathic. They study the nature of human beings and they are always coming up with schemes to draw people to their side and draw their votes.

            These are the people who are the backbone of the republican and democratic party, and they will never, I repeat never, allow or accept libertarian ideas, because it will cost them their power. I feel people who only see politics through television but never experience it, don’t understand how dirty and soulless it actually is.

            All that being said, all one has to do is look at the parties today and see what they’ve produced. Many republicans love Reagan, because he reduced regulation and freed Wall Street. Of course, they leave out the damage he did to the poor. The democrats love Clinton, because he had a surplus and there was massive job growth during his presidency. They leave out that most of this was due to the utter lack of responsibility of Alan Greenspan to reduce interest rates and deflate the dot.com bubble when convention said that he should.

            The Democrats and the Republicans live off the electorates’ ignorance, plain and simple. If the electorate knew more and demanded more, the politicians would give more. But as long as people continue to do the same thing over and over again, we’ll continue to get the smae results: decline. And until people come to the realization that our system of governance is no longer sunstainable, things will continue till we meet a tragic end.

            • http://blackmedici.wordpress.com Black Medici

              moderation again

        • SweetSass

          America’s founding economic principles were based on Triangular Trade and slavery. Thank god we’ve fallen away from those.

          You’ve never cracked open a history book have you? I mean seriously, dude, what are you smoking?

        • Asiyah

          I agree with BM. Libertarians aren’t bringing anything new, and they are not some alternative to Democrats and Republicans because those two parties have taken Libertarian ideals since these ideals can span both parties.

          From what I learned in political philosophy, libertarians are normally classified as “right-wing liberals,” but even that classification is iffy.

      • b sweet

        Ding ding ding. We have a winner

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Liberals value LOOKING intelligent. That isn’t necessarily an indictment on the things they like, that’s just how they function”

      this is what I was getting at when I said “value”

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      i like this comment. a lot.

  • Sagey Bear

    As you say “value”, I agree. As you say “successful”, I agree. Yet, it is that disparity which allows the lesser of the intellectuals to thrive. As it were, being the lacking party in a battle of wits, there would be little chance for you to survive. This is why the Liberals basically create and reinforce their foes as if to create a bigger challenge for themselves. They are often referred to as punk when truly they just have a ‘morality boundary’ to overcome.

    • Lia

      Are you saying that it’s a brains vs brawns fight between the two groups?

      • Sagey Bear

        No, I merely stated the tendencies of the two groups. Their values make them completely susceptible to each other. However, the simpler you are, the easier it is to stay the course with whatever you originally believed. The smarter you are the more easily convinced you are.
        Please, work hard to follow. Having an upper-hand intellectually, you can see what others cannot and exploit their weaknesses. Having people more likely to see your perspective and agree with you, you can use numbers to overrule what can be seen as annoying intellect.

        • Lia

          No need to be condescending, I wasn’t agreeing nor disagreeing with your statement. I merely wished to see if I had a grasp on the message the way you intended it to be received.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=guide Perverted Alchemist

      And that “morality boundary” usually entails questionable moral judgement and character…

  • ThatOneAKA

    Off topic, but relevant…Champ-the piece on Ebony.com was ON POINT! Sometimes we as people (black folk) are quick to point out racial flaws in others, but fail to admit that we can be racist as well.

    • B-more David

      Black folk can’t be racist…yet. Racism is a group dynamic. It’s a shared power game. We can be discriminatory! However, everyone is about something. You can’t NEVER erase discrimination. Racism, however can be. As a great-grandchild of slaves, I could care less if someone does like black people. I DO care if they can stop me from getting a job. Or if they can stop and frisk me. Or sentence me to longer jail times for similar crimes. Etc…

      • The spook by the door

        Exactly! Black people do not and have not created legislation that castigates white people for the benefit of black people.
        Racisim is a systemic function that perpetuates the notion of racial superiority.
        People confuse bigotry with racism. And it,s not the same

        • SweetSass

          Yes. Prejudice =/= institutional racism.

        • MJoy

          How long has “The spook by the door” been your screen name??? This is one of my favorite books!!!!

          P.S. I voted for Roseanne so I have nothing else to contribute here. Ok, I didn’t. But I really wanted to.

        • ThatOneAKA

          While we may not have passed legislation to oppress other racial groups, I still contend that black folk can be racist. One definition defines racism as “discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race.” While we do not have innate power in this country, some of us treat members of other races horribly. Now, I’m not talking about black vs white, but I’ve witnessed racist behavior black vs middle eastern, black vs latino/latina and black vs asian.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Off topic, but relevant…Champ-the piece on Ebony.com was ON POINT!”

      thanks and shit

  • Vanity in Peril

    But the Conservatives have ‘binders full of bishes’ so there! Kidding. I am not ashamed to consider myself an independent-thinking bleeding- heart liberal but I think you can be smart across the aisle as well. It’s just that so many of them (that I’ve encountered) seem to lack the critical thinking skills necessary in life that would more than likely create more fiscal conservatives vs the wackadoo, jesus be a biscuit, social conservative types that believe the Big Guy gave us all free will but that they should use that will to prevent others from living their own damn lives. I think the study is interesting as well as your write up on it. Not sure if any of that made sense, POTUS just stunted on some guy named Mitt (two T’s) and I’m pretty sure his performance just caused me to ovulate.

    • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

      “But the Conservatives have ‘binders full of bishes’ so there!”

      Lol.

    • Breezy

      I can’t wait to see how SNL spins the “binders full of women” comment. That was funny on so many levels.

      • spottieottiedarlin

        The binders full of women comment had me so weak. Yet, I then felt empowered that Romney believes in flexible schedules so that I, as a woman, can go home and make dinner! YAY!

        • KENYADIGIT

          *kicks rock*…I want to go home and cook 2…

    • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

      ‘binders full of bishes’

      BOL! Romney can’t get a break.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      Man…that binders full of women line was SO hilarious. like…it gave me comedic life. i found inspiration.

      • SweetSass

        Trap her, keep her. Indeed.

        • Breezy

          Its like in my mind he actually was saying “nicca please, I gat hoes in catalog and shid”…that’s in my mind, doe.

          • SweetSass

            If you like it put three rings on it.

            Three hole punch me and wrap me in plastic cus I’m dead @this!

  • http://www.iamyourpeople.com I Am Your People

    The problem is this isn’t simple, since as the libertarian VSBs have pointed out, GOP =/= conservative and Democrat =/= liberal. I don’t think conservatives are less intelligent, but as we saw during the GOP primaries, Republicans want to cut the Dept of Education and refer to a college education with contempt. (WHAT A SNOB! -Santorum) Whereas a 4 year degree isn’t for everyone, conservatives know having and educated and employed populace is better than uneducated and unemployable.

    But yeah, NASCAR seems to be a total redneck sport. They must be going for that appeal, since Black folks (and Latinos and Asians) love fast cars and love to race

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=guide Perverted Alchemist

      “I don’t think conservatives are less intelligent, but as we saw during the GOP primaries, Republicans want to cut the Dept of Education and refer to a college education with contempt. ”

      The irony of that is the Republican Party has been trying to chip away at the funding for education for the last thirty years- and then wondered why the American schools are in such bad shape in this present day.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Republicans want to cut the Dept of Education and refer to a college education with contempt”

      I do agree that there has to be some type educational paradigm shift, and, to be honest, i do agree with the conservative stance that continuing to throw money at the problem isn’t going to automatically solve it. i don’t know what would, though

  • http://qupsi.wordpress.com QuPsi

    I’ll just say this… To this day, I have yet to be able to engage in a truly intellectual conversation with a conservative supporter that can truly articulate and justify their views with sound logical well thought out answers.

    Before even choosing a “side”, whenever I read political articles, I often find myself asking the simple question of “how does that help people?” when reading views from the Republican side. Further, I always found myself saying “that makes sense, why don’t Republicans support that?”, when reading views from the Democratic side.

    I’m not going to say that conservatives/republicans are not as intelligent as liberals/democrats, but I will say, to this day, I’ve yet to see said intelligence exercised, expressed, or articulated.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=guide Perverted Alchemist

      “I’ll just say this… To this day, I have yet to be able to engage in a truly intellectual conversation with a conservative supporter that can truly articulate and justify their views with sound logical well thought out answers.”

      As a conservative, I can tell you first hand that most people who vote Republican vote with their wallets and bank statements. It sounds about as asinine as most liberals who practically vote with their emotions (See: President Obama, for example).

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        “I can tell you first hand that most people who vote Republican vote with their wallets and bank statements”

        don’t know if i agree with that. how does that explain the millions of poor southerns who the republicans have in their back pockets — people who are actually voting against their own immediate self interest?

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          yeah. b/c there’s a whole lot of Republicans voting with their emotions too…they do not f*ck with Obama. emotionally.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

          Party loyalty.

        • niksmit

          They’re voting their aspirations or delusions. They will be rich one day and they don’t want anyone trying to get a piece of their pie when they finally get one. It comes from believing in the American Myth.

      • Asiyah

        “As a conservative, I can tell you first hand that most people who vote Republican vote with their wallets and bank statements.”

        I’ve seen this, but that’s because I’m from NYC where the ones who do vote Republican only do so for economic purposes. That’s also the case in LA and the rest of California, hence the term, “California Republican.”

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

          And they are living in places where well off people usually reside- like California and New York.

    • Coup De Villain

      Regarding their inability to articulate a point, You haven’t met a smart conservative. Read “The American Conservative” for a few weeks, and you’ll find that the smart ones know how to make cogent arguments.

      The real problem is that most “conservatives” don’t play fair. Either they don’t know their own philosophy and their own argument, or whatever “conservative” policy they adopt is subterfuge for other aims.

      Liberals/Progressives/Democrats also face the same problems, but generally they tend to be more conservative.

      As a nationalist, it’s important to understand your enemy.

      *leans back in wicker chair Bobby Seale style*

  • The F.acially U.nappealing C.hicago K.id?

    Honestly, I don’t think choosing to be the smartest person in the room is a bad decision at all. “Success” itself is such a broad term, though. Different individuals have different interpretations of what success is. However success, regardless of definition, can be and sometimes is, extremely finite. Especially when not backed with a certain intelligence to hold on to it. Just ask the numerous professional athletes going bankrupt nowadays. The smarter person can most likely find ways to be just as “successful” as the next guy, and then some. Now, I’m not saying all “successful” people are irresponsible/stupid/etc. I just believe it’s great to have something to fall back on and the smarter you are, the easier it gets.

    But, that’s just me. I lean Liberal as well, however I don’t really co-sign the notion that liberals value intelligence more. Especially not based on TV habits. Purpose of television is to entertain. A lot of people just want to relax without putting more strain on an already stressed mind.

    • The F.acially U.nappealing C.hicago K.id?

      To parallel, I’ll refer to the attitudes of pompous individuals that erroneously believe they’re better and smarter than you because they mainly listen to underground, conscious hip hop. Yet I bet the vast majority of these individuals aren’t half as smart and accomplished as the people of the base I went to for Basic Training for back when I was doing my thing in the Marine Corps. Between the majority of the drill instructors, doctors, surgeons, lawyers and law advisors, etc, guess which rapper was the favorite? Lil Wayne. Overwhemingly. So much so that the staff were openly quoting his lyrics, and lamenting about how they couldn’t wait for Tha Carter IV.

      But that doesn’t mean they are less intelligent or even that they don’t “value” intelligence as highly as the people who listen to conscious hip hop. All it means, is that they view entertainment as just that. So to me, TV habits aren’t really indictative of intelligence so much as predicting which demographics the groups are likely comprised of.

      • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

        “Between the majority of the drill instructors, doctors, surgeons, lawyers and law advisors, etc, guess which rapper was the favorite? Lil Wayne. Overwhemingly. So much so that the staff were openly quoting his lyrics, and lamenting about how they couldn’t wait for Tha Carter IV.”

        But that has a lot to do with race. White people have nothing to lose by being fans of Lil’ Wayne. He, Lil Wayne, isn’t calling White women bit*hs and h*es. He’s not promoting violence in White communities, etc., etc.. Lil Wayne is a minstrel, so it’s no wonder he’d be popular amongst some Whites. But, I would be leery of those Whites on issues of race. And I would think that they, when compared to their peers, would be less intelligent.

        • The F.acially U.nappealing C.hicago K.id?

          “He, Lil Wayne, isn’t calling White women bit*hs and h*es.”

          He most certainly does. Numerous times. Race doesn’t matter to him in that regard.

          “He’s not promoting violence in White communities.”

          Because he didn’t grow up in one.

          These things don’t have anything to do with race. People don’t choose what entertains them based whether or not they have a lot to lose. They either are entertained, or not. People still watched Love & Hip Hop, despite openly stating how negative they think it is, because they couldn’t help but be entertained by it. The point of my parallel is simple. Taste in things like tv shows/art/music/ aren’t ultimately indictative of intelligence. People enjoy things for different reasons. So to say people who are fans of Lil Wayne (doctors and lawyers and the likes, mind you, people whose intellect is pretty much spoken for) value intelligence less than the kid who works at Burger King, simply because he prefers Immortal Technique, is ridiculous.

          • http://thejahfiles.blogspot.com/ B. Brown

            100% cosign, especially on the music discussion.

          • Prettichica10

            “People don’t choose what entertains them based whether or not they have a lot to lose”

            interesting, I think a lot of black ppl feel like we as a people have a lot to lose when viewing anything that “makes us look bad”. Part of the reason a lot of people feel uncomfortable w/ the buffonery that entails during a Tyler Perry show. A lot of main stream hip hop falls in that category today including Lil’ Wayne. Not saying it ain’t hot, cuz it’s fun to dance to & aladat, but I can see it for what it is & a lot of it’s a minstrel show & perpetuated sterotypes.

            • The F.acially U.nappealing C.hicago K.id?

              “I think a lot of black ppl feel like we as a people have a lot to lose when viewing anything that “makes us look bad”.”

              Of course we do. We don’t want to feed into the already negative stereotypes about us. Which is why things like Love & Hip Hop, a Tyler Perry production, etc are considered “guilty pleasures.” The key word there, being “pleasures”. Despite being aware of its negative cannotations, we still enjoy the r”aucous-ness” that comes with hearing a song like “Bandz Will Make Her Dance”.

              So it is unfair to say doing so automatically means you don’t value intelligence (not saying this is what you said).

              • Prettichica10

                “Bands will make her dance?”

                & you mean all this time I been singing “Dance a make a dance, dance a make a dance” LOL. I never get the words right to songs smh. Especially the ratchet ones! oh speaking of: has anybody seen Issa Rae’s Ratchet Piece Theatre- she a mess!

        • http://www.twitter.com/IluminatiNYC Todd

          Val, I know your preferences, but I must have missed the “Start the Violence” initiative where Li’l Wayne was giving out guns. Oh, and all those school visits where he was asking boys to disrespect girls, and using girls in the audience as models for how they should be treated like crap.

          Believe it or not, people are violent and disrespect women outside of music. I’d rather we live in a world where we acknowledge it than in a world where people are forced into narrow means of expressing feelings, with all the passive aggressiveness that results. Jacked as it sounds, I’d rather my nieces and my daughter be called names if the alternative is having to put up with emotional and physical abuse from a dude who talks about how much he respects women.

          • http://uphereoncloud9.wordpress.com/ Wu Young, Agent of M.E.

            *orders a “Start the Violence” t-shirt with a picture of Brick from Anchorman holding a grenade and a trident*

            • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=guide Perverted Alchemist

              *complete with the caption “You know I killed a guy”*

              • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

                This would sell out.

                • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                  Make it happen!!! *nudges WIP*

          • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

            @Todd

            You missed my point. It’s not really about Lil Wayne. I really don’t know what he raps about. It’s about the entertainment choices of those that TUK mentioned. And how one may choose a certain artist to like who has no impact on your community.

            • The F.acially U.nappealing C.hicago K.id?

              So what then, of the many educated, intelligent, and admirable black people who do listen to Lil Wayne? Are they any less intelligent than their mediocre, Jedi Mind Trick fan, counterparts?

            • Justmetheguy

              But a LOT of educated black folks LOVE “ignorant music” too though…so….TUK’s point still stands…I don’t think most people take how music effects their community or what words it uses and how offensive they might be to some people into account when they decide what music entertains them and what doesn’t. I believe that was the crux of his point…

              • The F.acially U.nappealing C.hicago K.id?

                Exactly. Thank you.

              • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

                DING! DING! DING!!!!

    • chameleonic

      i think theres intelligent success and natural success. on a broad term entertainers, athletes, moguls, and ceo/inventors fall into one or the other.

      then you have people who are successful by anyones definition: millionaires, thousandaires, self made individuals.

      then you have America.

      nothing else matters unless you are at minimum, a thousandaire self made individual. as a conservative person this is how i pick and choose the company i keep. are you a closet genius working towards something awesome. this is quite possibly the greatest epic fail of human history. it IS pretty stupid bc the answer will always be no….but somehow the personal definition of massive debt, horrible spending habits, immaturity, temporary solutions, and permanent bliss in bad decision making…..is how a typical american introduces thyself. its the silliest isht ive ever seen in my life.

      everything under 6 figures is poverty to me. i feel like 98% of americans are living in poverty. frolicking about livin the good life and im being conservative hoping to trip, fall, and bust my face on a gaggle of genius’ [bonus points for being conservative oriented] but i let that go. america is killing me right now its like hoping the redskins win the superbowl and being shocked every season.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=guide Perverted Alchemist

      “Purpose of television is to entertain. A lot of people just want to relax without putting more strain on an already stressed mind.”

      Exactly! I lean to the right and I’ll watch “Archer” and “Meet The Press” with the same enthusiasm.

    • http://missrosen.wordpress.com/ esa

      ~ “Success” itself is such a broad term, though. Different individuals have different interpretations of what success is.

      agreed. there are also many different types of intelligence. they manifest in countless ways. what are the parameters for a discussion of intellect—who defines this and how do we measure it ?

      i take issue with IQ tests, as i take issue with the practice and application of psychology, which is just another structure of social control that is egregiously used to exploit and manipulate the most vulnerable in our society.

      i’ll happily be the most Me in the room, nothing more, nothing less. anything else is a subjective test of false hierarchy that reinforces pre-existing social myths about the value of the individual in our world.

      • Asiyah

        “i take issue with IQ tests, as i take issue with the practice and application of psychology, which is just another structure of social control that is egregiously used to exploit and manipulate the most vulnerable in our society.”

        I majored in psychology, but I am not offended by your statement. I actually agree. Unfortunately, there are not enough people of color in this field, so the interpretations of psychological studies and results are mostly tailored towards the beliefs of these individuals who comprise the majority of the psychological community. It should come as no surprise, then, that they apply ideas that can be deemed oppressive to those who do not comprise this majority. It’s sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy, in a way, as well as shaping society to be the way the majority thinks it should be.

    • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

      “However success, regardless of definition, can be and sometimes is, extremely finite…The smarter person can most likely find ways to be just as “successful” as the next guy, and then some.”

      I don’t care for this argument. The idea that the dummy, who was successful in the first place, will lose success and never get it back doesn’t really make sense- they did it once, why couldn’t they do it again? (For an athlete, is “going broke” making $100k like an everyday joe blow?) Why would the smart person who hasn’t done sh*t suddenly figure it all out? I can’t accept the idea that success and some type of intelligence aren’t deeply intertwined.

      • The F.acially U.nappealing C.hicago K.id?

        “The idea that the dummy, who was successful in the first place, will lose success and never get it back doesn’t really make sense- they did it once, why couldn’t they do it again?”

        This is why I state success is a broad term. You can achieve “success” in a number of ways in which intellect played no noticeable role. See Kim Kardashian. But I’ll give you an example. Take a supremely talented basketball player. His skill relies mostly in the physical. Except, he has career ending injury. He can never play pro-basketball again. He will never achieve that specific kind of success, at that level, again. Not to mention he blew all his money (which becoming more commonplace).

      • The F.acially U.nappealing C.hicago K.id?

        “Why would the smart person who hasn’t done sh*t suddenly figure it all out?”

        1. Who said the smart person hasn’t done anything?

        2. Being smarter means you have more options. Which is why higher education is stressed so much. A lot of “successful” people (usually those in the Entertainment industry and careers which intellect isn’t really a factor) don’t have but 1-2 options (for example’s sake). Of course, one of them has paid off. But what happens when that person is no longer “hot”? They fade. And without the intellect needed to open more doors and create more options, once they lose that “success”, it stays gone.

        • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

          1. The options were smart verses successful. From that I can only assume smart/unsuccessful verses dumb/successful. To me the premise made them sound exclusive so that’s how I responded.

          2. To that effect, having options is meaningless unless one takes advantage of those options. So under the premise that these were exclusive, the smart person hasn’t taken advantage of their options yet. We can assume at some point they will but any assumption can be made to make our points in this case.

          I totally agree that successful and smart are broad terms that can mean many things depending on point of view. I have a hard time totally separating success and intelligence.

          • The F.acially U.nappealing C.hicago K.id?

            “The options were smart verses successful.”

            This is where you made the mistake. The options were, “the MOST successful” and being the “SMARTEST”. Meaning, there could be a millionaire in the room (successful), but he wouldn’t be considered the most “successful” (from a financial standpoint) if there was a billionaire in the same room. Apply a similar example of that same concept to the intellect side as well.

            This is why I made it a point to mention in my opening comment that just because you’re successful doesn’t always mean you’re “irresponsible/stupid/etc.” So I didn’t see it as dumb/successful vs. smart/unsuccessful.

            • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

              You’re right, I did overlook the superlative element to the question. I believe I’d still rather be the most successful and and the second smartest, LOL.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Especially not based on TV habits. Purpose of television is to entertain. A lot of people just want to relax without putting more strain on an already stressed mind.”

      so, you don’t think there’s any reasoning behind the fact that the liberal-loved shows that came up in the study are “smarter” and take more work than the conservative-loved shows?

      • The F.acially U.nappealing C.hicago K.id?

        Not particularly, no.

      • Asiyah

        Let’s take into account that a lot of Republican voters are blue-collar workers. They are not interested in going home to watch “smart” television. They work too hard. They want mindless entertainment. Not stating this is fact, but this can be a strong possibility and type of employment can truly be an extraneous variable that needs to be taken into consideration.

        • SweetSass

          The reverse could be said too…

          Why after a day of mindless work would you want to have mindless teevee?

          It goes back to… more likely than not… they don’t have the intellectual capacity to roll with a show like House, Scandal, or Breaking Bad.

          • CurlySue

            Not sure I would include Scandal in a list of high-brow shows. It’s right up there with The Good Wife and Grey’s Anatomy and most other network primetime shows. Those are good shows but nothing that I need my thinking cap for.

          • Asiyah

            I agree with you, SweetSass. Truth is that one’s choice of entertainment may not be due to intelligence at all. We just can’t assume that smart people automatically watch “smart” shows, or something to that effect.

  • chameleonic

    conservative people are stupid bc 99% of the ppl theyll encounter are out of control ratchets with absolutely no home training. conservative people are typically genuis’ though.

    liberal minded people are too stupid to do anything of long term importance or significance but they can seemlessly fit into social life. which means life is peachy easy street. bliss in ignorance. smart.

    then you have Barack Obama. He’s smart enough to work his butt off for genius ideas even though it means the mass of liberal minded people live circuotous lives of blissful ignorance, and then someone like Mitt Romney goes…..”hey. i bet i could make a few hundred million if i conserved my right mind.” i think the loophole is to be a liberal person who works hard for grand ideas bc its smarter than being a conservative genius with no support for your genius en masse.

    • Iceprincess2

      I would pick apart your statement just based off the holes in it. But, I won’t, now that we all know you’re crazier than a bag of hammers. (5 points to anyone who gets that reference lmfao)

      • chameleonic

        you cant even spell on a high school level.

        please, expound on your knowledge of conceptual leadership. please.

        dont pick apart my argument. contribute to it. see the substance with your sane mind and contribute something profound.

        i dare you.

      • Breezy

        Iceprincess2: I will take Mitten’s 5-Point Plan for $1000 please.

        • Iceprincess2

          Lol!

      • SweetSass

        Yeah, I can’t really be bothered to explain shid to someone koo-koo for cocoa puffs.

    • http://testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

      I find fault with a lot of what you said.

      Those “ratchets” that the “99%” (by the by, I’m tired of people throwing out these erroneous percentages. Like, 7% does not equal 50%, most of us learned that in elementary school, but I digress) of conservatives encounter… Could it possibly be that they approach others in a ratchet way themselves and push those other people’s buttons in an attempt to say “See, see! Crazy liberal commie!”? Because I’ve had that personally happen, and even when I didn’t lose my temper they still scoffed at me and came at me arrogantly while not providing any of their own ideas or opinions, just the recycled ideology of their party. Could it also be possible a lot of those ratchets are their own people i.e TeaPartiers and Birthers? Because those people? Wow…

      As for liberals not having long term goals, is that in the political sense or in the life-living sense? Politically, liberals may not be getting anything done because their friends across the aisle refuse to let them. For example studies show clean energy to be working wonders for Europe and other allies abroad and yet, many of the bills to at least get cleaner energy more widespread here than oil and coal have been ceremoniously smacked down. By whom? Mostly conservative leaners.

      Life-living wise? You can’t judge really, as every party has a subset of people who just refuse to live their best life but are the most vocal about how everyone else’s should be . But to say liberals are too stupid? That’s a vast, ignorant generalization, don’t you think? And if there’s one thing everyone can agree upon it’s that ignorance isn’t good for progress.*

      *Even if those people are ignorant of their own ignorance. Not saying that’s you. Just saying, there are those kinds of folks in the world…

      • chameleonic

        “Those “ratchets” that the “99%” (by the by, I’m tired of people throwing out these erroneous percentages. Like, 7% does not equal 50%, most of us learned that in elementary school, but I digress) of conservatives encounter…”

        yeah, i literally thought about doing a percentage of that before i said it but then i realized i didnt feel like actually looking at people for ratchetness and coming up with an actual statistic. but its funny that you say that lol. really though, it seems like out of sixty people only 3 will be relateable or out of twenty people only 1 will be relateable. the rest are just oc on the behavior tip and i totally feel you on how people approach you and i generally dont even tend to approach because i know there is no way in the world its not going to sound like im slapping them in the face; so, i let people come to me. and because of that most people will approach me acting ratchet thinking my respect is earned when really, i just wanna hear whats awesome about you.

        “As for liberals not having long term goals, is that in the political sense or in the life-living sense?”

        i meant that more of in a lifestyle sense. i just dont understand what people in my age group are looking at that they have the spending habits and behaviors and decision making skills that they do. they live for what feels good now and support one another in that and as a general lifestyle theyre not looking long term. for example, i knew what college i was going to in elementary school. thats not normal and i dont expect it to be. but friends in high school didnt know what college they were going to senior year. most of them didnt make their first choice and ended up partying college away not looking at the long term impact of spending reckless amounts of money on frivolous things. even in more personal arenas like what they did with themselves (drugs, alcohol, s*x) they werent looking at long term impacts. when i was in college i was figuring up what i was gonna do after college and i put everything i had and all my time towards that. that made me a conservative person. a liberal lifestyle to me is short sided. as far as the liberal parties?

        republicans tended to contact me after i turned 18. if i liked the candidate i voted republican, or libertarian based on a principle i had of giving the underdog the opportunity to run things for awhile. i typically cant comprehend what a liberal/democratic party leader is doing bc it registers to me as sloppy, unorganized leadership. ‘tf are you doing, heres some pointers’ and then a conservative comes along and i totally get it. if you cant catch the flow of the conservative party it sucks. i agree about the discord though. i think its hard to accomplish anything when you have a few thousand opinions on EVERY SINGLE THING not to mention the hundreds of millions of opinions that constitute the public. its hard for anyone in those conditions. i cut both sides slack.

        • Rewind

          If you paid attention to world history, you’d know humanity by default is mainly stupid. That is not by nature, it is by conditioning. The ability to withhold information if you have a position of power has existed for a very long time, and conditioned the mass public to not seek information on their own. Ergo, they will take whatever are given and deem it to be the truth. It hasn’t changed since the days of yore when speakers of the Church would skew quotes from the Bible in order to keep the masses stupid. That didn’t change until Martin Luther invented the printing press. That was less than 500 years ago, and information on a whole wasn’t available to most people around the world until 200 years ago.

          In other words, calling out the mass public for being stupid is beyond stupid itself because this is the way it has always been. You have a choice, be an individual and find your own way to be intelligent or be part of the mass public and believe what you’re told. Truth is, you’re probably both, as most people are. So when you make up those weird assumptions, recognize from time to time, you fall under those categories too and are basically making fun of yourself. We are all guilty of it, no matter what anyone says.

          • chameleonic

            yeah, ive found that within communities i can sort of go along with things but in excessive amounts i get really stressed out and annoyed and then i start calling ppl out so that i can feel better. it doesnt change anything, ever. i also cant seem to find a group of like minded people and by the time i do, my nerves are fried so its easier to keep to myself. its hard for me to go along with someone/something when i feel like what im being told is a lie or manipulation so i take it upon myself to seek truth. which is the wedge in my life. personal effort. i find it hard to be in a mass public that is not making personal effort. everything about it grates my nerves but im in the process of learning, telling a a public en masse ‘this common thread amongst you is stupid and getting on my nerves’ is pretty futile. one day ill probably learn to relax and be just as dumb.

        • http://testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

          In the lifestyle sense, I personally believe, that it’s more an environmental thing than an actual political leaning thing. My parents are Dems, and I’m an independent with liberal lean. I was raised to think for myself, to read and research for myself and form my own opinions. I was also raised to believe that money isn’t everything, which might be why I lean the way I do.

          I didn’t know where I wanted to go to college and in truth, at 22 I don’t think it much matters as long as I go. I’m just not going to go because “traditionally” I’m supposed to, nor am I going and spending/wasting all of my own money (because there’s no way I’m trusting Sallie Mae with a damn thing) and I don’t know exactly what it is I want to do. It’s not a “plan,” but it works for how I want to live my life. Where am I going to be five years from now? I don’t know. What will I be doing? I don’t know. Will I be happy with my choices? Most likely, yes.

          I think that people find generalizing easy and simple when people are all different. Take people at a person to person basis, and maybe address how you approach them; chances are you’ll have more in common* than you thought.

          *And even if not, you don’t come off looking like a douche for how you came at them.

          • nillalatte

            “I didn’t know where I wanted to go to college and in truth, at 22 I don’t think it much matters as long as I go. I’m just not going to go because “traditionally” I’m supposed to, nor am I going and spending/wasting all of my own money (because there’s no way I’m trusting Sallie Mae with a damn thing) and I don’t know exactly what it is I want to do.”

            Tes, can I just offer some advice here… 3 things:

            1- college is not for everyone, true. However if you do graduate from college you’ll be doing a hell of a lot better in a shorter amount of time than someone with only a HS diploma.

            2- Study what you enjoy to be successful in college, not what you want to be. My philosophy, and what I’ve told my kids repeatedly, is that if you study what you enjoy and have an interest in what you’re learning, you’ll do well academically. It doesn’t particularly matter (unless it’s a specific profession, but you’d know if that’s what you want to pursue later) what you earn a degree in, just so that you have a degree. You separate yourself from 65% of the job seeking population with a degree.

            3- Investing in yourself and your future with a formal education is NEVER a waste. But, there are some cost cutting, time saving avenues. a- go to a community college for the 1st two years and then transfer your credits/associates to a university for your major study. b- take CLEP tests to earn credits and speed up process. Pass or fail grades. Does not impact GPA and costs considerably less than taking a course. c- once you choose a course of study, stick with it. don’t change your major. You can always pick up another degree/training in something else if you like.

            • http://testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

              Ms. Nilla,
              I was thinking those same three things. I’m working steadily towards it but I wanna just be sure. I know you’re never really sure about those types of things, but I wanna be as close as possible.

          • chameleonic

            [*laughing*] i do have a tendency to sound oc when i talk to ppl and a lot of that comes from the company i keep. i tend to only be around older people who are successful so i dont have to worry about how i come off bc theyre whatever enough to not be bothered by me. but then i know for a fact approaching the average person im going to sound snooty and theyre going to be offended bc being in that environment means i have to measure UP.

            i have to scale myself upwards. then in a normal setting i sound extra rude bc i realize people didnt grow up like i did. and then im annoyed and overwhelmed; its actually really confusing. i typically generalize to stay level and i like when people just talk bc i can pick up on stuff i like and build from there. when ppl approach me with too much energy in the wrong way about things i dont like i get crabby. i simply dont care. but i REALLY like listening to the best of people. i can do THAT on an individual basis all day.

    • Asiyah

      Do ratchets even vote?

      • SweetSass

        For American Idol.

      • chameleonic

        do you think 30 million people are well behaved, morally driven individuals?

        na. ratchets dont vote. nuns and monks elect our Presidents.

        • Asiyah

          I know that you are having a hard week, but tone down the attitude and the sarcasm.

          • chameleonic

            tone up the energy put into moral character and i wont have to be sarcastic. really. you try sitting in a place where 9 out of 10 ppl dont even have even a basic grasp of basic life skills, and see how your attitude fares. i think crap people who are intentionally crappy for majority of their lives need a healthy reality check. i will adjust my attitude to the degree in which people adjust their capabilities. i may or may not be sarcastic, it depends on how annoyed i am. i find the vast majority of americans to be annoying. dont try to check me like you missed the part where i calmed down.

            • Asiyah

              yes, you clearly seem calm.

              • chameleonic

                lol, i actually am putting effort into calming down. that made me laugh though. sarcasm meets sarcasm is oddly soothing.

                • Asiyah

                  HA! I GOTCHA!!!!!!!!

  • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

    I think age is a factor too. Many people become more conservative as they grow older.

    Another thing to consider is that conservative doesn’t always equal Republican. There are tons of African Americans, for instance, who are very conservative but are Democrats, which is a Liberal Party. Obviously that has to do with the engrained racism within the Republican Party.

    Considering there are large numbers of unrecognized African American conservatives in this country, I wonder how that plays into the entertainment choices that they make. Do their entertainment choices look more like Republicans or Democrats?

    So I think that being a White conservative and being a Black conservative, though they’re ideologies may intersect at points, are two totally different types of people.

    Whereas White conservatives tend to be less intelligent, according to a few studies, how does this play out amongst African American conservatives? Obviously Black Republicans are less intelligent but what about non-affiliated conservative Black people?

    • http://www.twitter.com/IluminatiNYC Todd

      I’d say they’re less intelligent as well. If anything, other than the ballot booth, they have the same mental blind spots as White conservatives.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=guide Perverted Alchemist

      “Obviously Black Republicans are less intelligent but what about non-affiliated conservative Black people?”

      Armstrong Williams laughs at the notion of this very statement…

      • SweetSass

        9-9-9, Pizza man Hermann Cain resembles that statement…

        So does Iraqi Torturer Allen West who still thinks he is part of the military despite dishonorable discharge…

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1?feature=mhee Perverted Alchemist

          Straight gangin’ on conservatives and Libertarians, huh Sass?

          • SweetSass

            Don’t get me started on Mia Love and her party city weave… I bet she got her suit at Rainbow.

            • http://valsotherblog.wordpress.com Val

              Mia Love is the perfect example of the delusional Black Republican.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Considering there are large numbers of unrecognized African American conservatives in this country, I wonder how that plays into the entertainment choices that they make. Do their entertainment choices look more like Republicans or Democrats?”

      Considering how popular the “The Real Basketball Wives of Hiphop” happens to be, I’d say more the former

      • Justmetheguy

        C’mon Champ. I hope you’re not suggesting that few liberals watch ratched tv (particularly any d@mn thing that comes on VH1). U and I both know better

        • MJoy

          Yeah, I’d say the majority of us are tuning in. The shamed liberals just label it a “guilty pleasure” or just deny deny deny.

    • Asiyah

      “I think age is a factor too. Many people become more conservative as they grow older.”

      Funny you say that because I find myself less liberal than I was 10 years ago but even less conservative than conservative folks. It’s like the liberals aren’t liberal enough for me lol