Since we’ve started doing this site, the concept of sleeping with somebody on the first night has come up various times and in various ways. Even in Monday’s post, the idea that a woman who gives it up on the first night being a ho came up. I tend to disagree with this sentiment but many men and women alike (though its more women who feel like this) think that a woman who’s tossing the drawz on the floor within 4 hours of the beginning of a date just might be a tad loose.
Being the defining information source that we are here at VSB.com, I figured we may as well discuss what’s really hood about giving it up on the first night. Does this make you a trollop? Or merely a woman who knows what she wants out of life?
If a man gives it up on the first night…does anybody even care or should he be saving his special parts for a special lady?!
Special parts is funny.
The most scientific way to determine whether or not giving it up on the first night is a good or bad is to do a simple cost-benefit analysis – pros and cons, if you will.
PROS
- Duh, you get some on the first night – how can you not respect somebody who gives you what you really want in the first place? i mean the sole goal of most dating is to hopefully see somebody naked at some point, and voila, you get that front and center.
- It’s one hell of an icebreaker - Most dates begin with a little bit of awkwardness as a couple attempts to get to know one another. What better way to research somebody than to, ya know, search someone? If you can’t find anything else to talk about after you see each other naked, then you only cost yourself one date and you can go on about your lives. Woohoo for brevity of wackness.
- Everybody’s happy - Wouldn’t the world be a better place if everybody was just happier in general? And here we have two people who are generally happier because they let their hormones do all of the work for them. You can’t beat physiology. You just can’t.
- You save money - Do you realize how much money you can save by taking the first date to the boudoir instead of the movies? What with ticket prices and popcorn going through the roof these days, he/she is probably SAVING you at least 40 bucks, minus the cost of some condoms (safety first people!). I mean it is a recession and all. Savings are not to be looked at lightly.
- Full information – Women will know what they’re working with and whether or not to keep dude employed or fire him on the spot for being under qualified.
CONS
- They gave it up on the first night - to quote the late great Tupac, “baby I don’t want it if its that easy”. Though chances are I probably do, I’m still wondering how many other men have run up in you with minimal effort. I’ll spend the next day wondering if it took the last guy 4 hours and dinner or should I have just pulled out my schlong, put it on your shoulder and said, “you know what to do.” Could be none; could be 100. Nobody wants to think about stuff like that.
- For women, it can be nervewracking – I’m guessing since most women tend to spend a lot of time hoping that the men they went out with are still interested in general, I can only guess that knowing he has little yet to aspire to would send the anxiety to N.A.S.A. like levels. Will he call? Does he still like me? Will he think I’m a tramp? What woman really wants to spend her time doing that when there is food to cook and dishes to wash. I kid. I kid.
- Ain’t had time to get tested – In today’s day and age of disease and infection, sleeping with somebody too quickly poses way too many risks. Everybody with herpes isn’t riding horses and smiling. Some people actually hate having STDs.
- Hard to top - If you do it all on the first date, what is there really to look forward to for the next date? As far as dude’s concerned, every nights a Blockbuster Night. I imagine it would suck to be trying to get to know somebody who kept asking about what color panties you had on.
So, what say you? Do the pros outweigh the cons? Are there more pros and cons?
What’s the verdict?
-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P
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whassup with the prices for parties..100.00 I will party on the hood of my car for that shyt
also
yes first……let me get my smurf on in this joint
@Shay-d-lady,
*sighs* I’m mad that you’re smurfing. I’m even more mad that I know that dance. Can someone PLEASE do the Bankhead Bounce instead of the Cabbage Patch or Smurf?
If not, I’ll have to pull a seated Running Man upon posting first. (nevermind pulling hamstrings and possibly getting a hernia while trying)
@Shay-d-lady, yeah, the prices of parties is outrageous. folks are pretending this is Another Black Function Weekend. during a time of recession too? folks are gonna be throwing away money they don’t have.
add to the fact that Jay-Z is doing a concert at the Warner Theatre in DC and money is just going out the window that weekend.
they shoulda never gave you ninjas a president.
they shoulda never gave you ninjas a president.
LOL – OL!
Special parts is funny…inside parts is funnier (and simultaneously scary @ me)
sorry 8th. i’m sleeping in the corner tonight.
@overit, “Tupac, “baby I don’t want it if its that easy”. ”
the underground just don’t stop for hoes. i shall comment when i don’t feel like i have an IV of benadryl coursing through my veins.
@overit,
vsb.com: where schizophrenia (in the form of people responding to their own comments) happens
i’ll leave the misunderstanding of SCZ alone….
@Gem of the Ocean,
VSB.com: where we create our OWN versions of medical disorders
brooklyn we go hard.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! ex-ac-it-a-ca-ly
i feel like the cons outweigh the pros….thats a whole lot of internal turmoil that coulda been lessened by a little self-control. like one of the lovely ladies here said (was that shay-d?) if you dont trust him enough to leave your purse with him then you dont need to give it up! (im paraphrasing, of course)
maybe im just stubborn but i will never believe that men (in general) dont see a woman who gets down on the first date as even just a little bit ho-ish. that whole thought process about “is it this easy for every dude” is an indicator to me that something shifts. maybe respect isnt the right word, but something is lost.
@shatani, I agree with you . . . its hard for me to think that a man looking for a relationship is not going to think at least for a little bit about the fact that the girl may be a promiscuous one. I couldn’t have wowed you that much for you to sleep with me that quick . . . I could have allowed for enough alcohol consumption for us to make bad decisions to happen . . . but then again . . . who couldnt . .. maybe she hadnt had some in a while . . . maybe it happened yesterday . . . who the hell knows. . .
I’m mad early! Can I be a member of the vampire crew now?
@IVR,
lmao!! one night does not a vampire make, my dear!! but youre on the right track! lemme see you back herr tomorrow (and the next night and the next) and we can talk…
@shatani, “see you back herr tomorrow (and the next night and the next) and we can talk…”
Oh, I cant be doing that .. . gotta get my parking spot at Van Dorn in the morning! I can do train, can’t do bus! GOOD NIGHT! (maybe ill see yall tomorrow night bloodsucking vampires)
@IVR,
you really gotta WANT it, man! lmao
@shatani, you really gotta WANT it, man! lmao
yeah it takes a lot of dedication and hard work..
Its like pledging all over again IVR, sacrifice sleep and sh*t
@Intellectual Hedonist, “Its like pledging all over again IVR, sacrifice sleep and sh*t”
It’s more the 18 dollars I’d have to pay in DC (like I will have to do today) when I get to the damn station after 7 . . . Why don’t these fools have bigger parking lots! Good Morning all.
@shatani,
“maybe im just stubborn but i will never believe that men (in general) dont see a woman who gets down on the first date as even just a little bit ho-ish.”
I don’t know about most men but for me if I think youre a whore after I boned you I thought you were a whore beforehand. In fact that assumption was probly the only reason I chose to be around you..waiting for you to drop your undies. In addition, I try to make it a practice not to date the whores because that would make me a trick. Whores get domino’s at some crash spot, if even that. You won’t be seen with me in the public. I don’t want my mama finding out her son socializes with whores. That could bring shame to the household.
@Deviant,my name is Panama Jackson and I approve this comment.
@Panama Jackson,
thank you sir
@Deviant,
So cleverly said.
@shatani,
maybe im just stubborn but i will never believe that men (in general) dont see a woman who gets down on the first date as even just a little bit ho-ish. that whole thought process about “is it this easy for every dude” is an indicator to me that something shifts
thing is, the older you get, the less of an issue that becomes. i mean, just because you hit doesnt mean that everyone else did immediately…and vice versa. her “making you wait” doesnt automatically mean that she doesnt have a few “first night stands” in her backpocket either
@The Champ,
I tend to think the girls that make you wait were the ones that were real loose with it when they were younger and they are trying to redeem themselves or keep from making past mistakes. This thought process is on a case by case basis depending on the lunacy of the woman.
@Deviant
“I tend to think the girls that make you wait were the ones that were real loose with it when they were younger and they are trying to redeem themselves or keep from making past mistakes. ”
This makes sense.
@V Renee,
“This makes sense.”
Lots of it.
or thier mothers just taught them to take thier time in relationships. keep those legs closed for more than a nano-second, lol.
Shot out to mama 8th!
@8th Wonder, shoutout to papa overit!
shout out to granny gem.
damnit! i wanted to be first!
@ladyb, i think it depends on the date and the people. calling a woman a 403 (calculator speak) because she screws on the first date assumes she’s going on tons of first dates. but if she’s picky and hasn’t had a first date since before she started preparing for the job market and graduation from her doctoral program more than a year ago, can you really hold it against her? arguably, she knows that what she wants (needs?) is a good d*down. let’s not judge, good people…
ps – everyone should go to that party. my brother is one of the djs!
@ladyb, in other words, sometimes the pros outweigh the cons
Champie–what do you call some one who responds to themselves 3 times in 1 thread??
@Gem of the Ocean,
Um…senile?
@Gem of the Ocean, i’d call them somebody who probably sends out a lot of text messages.
@Gem of the Ocean, i was multitasking and the edit thingie kept counting down…
and guilty on the texts
@ladyb, I agree with you Lady B. It’s not fair to judge and call a woman a ho for giving it up on the first night.
@Leila,
oh, its certainly not fair….but its reality. in matters of sexuality, women are judged for what they do and what they dont do. thats just the way it is.
@shatani, but as we have seen thus far, it is women who are judging themselves
@Please Excuse Your Significant Other,
Pretty much.
@Please Excuse Your Significant Other
So true!!!
@Leila,
e high-5!
@ladyb, “calling a woman a 403 (calculator speak) because she screws on the first date assumes she’s going on tons of first dates.”
This is true, you could have been the first in a long time. . . but unfortunately in the age of the Hobag, who believes that? AND how often is that really the case?
I co-sign this 100%.
@ladyb, which one would that be? B, S, or AS?
@ladyb,
“damnit! i wanted to be first!”
Well, next time you’ll know to shave 22 minutes off your personal best. ; )
@RedBeanzNRice,
I am mad that there is a race to be first now. And that people are coaching each other like they’re on a track team
**Diva Dust v 2.0 ™ to all of you for making me laugh so hard**
@Blackberry Moses,
“And that people are coaching each other like they’re on a track team”
*sighs* I’m sorry about that and sh*t, lol, but all the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of Kamakula and Luvvie.
They single-handedly (quadruple-handledly, really, I mean they both have 2 hands) forced us vampires into a state of frenzy over who gets the number 1 spot, lol.
@RedBeanzNRice,
the sad part? neither one of them have been around for a minute now and people still acting crazy about this first business. True Puppet Masters, they are.
Now, dance puppets, dance!!!
They single-handedly (quadruple-handledly, really, I mean they both have 2 hands)
this made me LMAO against my will…
@Gem of the Ocean,
“this made me LMAO against my will…”
That ^ did the same to me. Against your will, dang – like a hostage situation and sh*t, lmao.
lmao when i 1st read it i was like “please dont go there” and before i could finish the rest of the sentence i was crackin up.
your asides are soooo random yet witty and chuckle inducing lol
If you are genuinely interested in the person, the cons definitely outweigh the pros of having sex on the first date. However, if you know the young lady ahead of time from class or church choir practice or something, and your “date” has absolutely nothing to do with getting to know each other better, but has everything to do with getting to “know” each other better, then do you. literally and figuratively. Good night and Happy Hump Day!!
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall….,
word. if the point is to know them…in the Biblical sense. then the pros definitely outweigh the cons…
happy hump day, indeed!
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall…., this makes sense to me.
me as well
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall….,
If you are genuinely interested in the person, the cons definitely outweigh the pros of having sex on the first date.
expound, please
@The Champ,
by genuinely interested, I mean both parties are looking for something more than a quick meal (or not) and a mattress workout.
However, if a little recreational sport is the intention of the 2 parties involved on this date, then I say hit-up Mickey-D’s for a 10 piece to share. So, not only do you get some, you get 5 pieces of all white meat goodness, and you save some money. Nothing but pros in that situation.
and if you get that 10pc, please sing the catchy r&b jingle to compliment the deal…
@Gem of the Ocean,
that’s right Gemmie…. ‘don’t be so stingaaayyy’ with your singin. Unless your singing sounds like 2 cats screwing. In which case, please be stingaaaayy
LOL at the very least play the instrumental in the background during consumption.
@The Champ,
but on another note, if you have been friends/acquaintances with someone for years, and you decide to take it to the next level, obviously there is some genuine interest in that situation. And sex on first date, and your reactions to the sex, may be a true indicator of whether or not you should try to do the couple thing
All of this is really on a case by case basis
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall…., I agree
A hoe is a hoe… whether she gave it to you on the 1st or 10th date. If she is a hoe… how much does the “when” actually matter? IDK… I’ll make more sense after my necessary 6 hours.
@Ro,
lmao! nitey nite, roro…
@Ro, “how much does the “when” actually matter? IDK… I’ll make more sense after my necessary 6 hours.”
This is true . . . you can be the h*’s captain save’em and waiting out for some chach that been passed around like a collection plate . . . You never know, which is why ignorance has become my bliss, as long as you don’t have a wind tunnel for a vijosh and/or permanent rug burn on your knees (etc) . . . just don’t go volunteering information all willy nilly because I don’t wanna know. “I’ve never done this before” . . .what the fukk evah . . . lol
@IVR,
(guffaws)
@IVR,
i thought i was the only one who said chach! lmao!
@shatani, nope . . . I also say pu-chach when chach is not understood.
@Ro,
“I’ll make more sense after my necessary 6 hours.”
6 hours? I WISH. Well, kudos to you! For the past 5 months or so, I haven’t been able to sleep more than 4 hours a pop. *sighs* Must be nice.
@RedBeanzNRice,
For the past 5 months or so, I haven’t been able to sleep more than 4 hours a pop. *sighs* Must be nice.
i’m the same way. i can probably count on one hand the number of times in the past few months i was able to sleep for 7 or 8 hours straight
@The Champ,
“i can probably count on one hand the number of times in the past few months i was able to sleep for 7 or 8 hours straight”
I hear ya. Perhaps we can’t sleep cause we’re brimming with ideas and possibilities? Or does insomnia just reign supreme in the “stressed out and overworked population”. I’d like to think it’s the former instead of the latter, lol.
But, hell who knows – all I know is that I’d LOVE to meet Mr. Sandman, and let him hit me over the head with a cement club, laced with wrought iron sometime soon. This insomnia crap is for the birds.
@RedBeanzNRice, i slept for 11 hours last night…..
@Please Excuse Your Significant Other,
“i slept for 11 hours last night…..”
I would be mad, but considering the fact that there’s only 24 hours in a day, you almost slept half your day away. So, I can’t be mad at that – for once we insomniacs have the edge. ; )
@RedBeanzNRice, it felt so good though. 830pm-730am
@Please Excuse Your Significant Other,
I just woke up! Good morning everybody!
What’s for breakfast?
go sit down, please.
I was about to tell her about herself as well. All you higher ed types just lolling about. SMH.
I’m throwin mad salt at my mama too. Called me talking about let’s meet for lunch. Um mom, I’m at WORK.
@RedBeanzNRice, I’m trying to make this “sleeping for 6 hours” thang last as long as possible. Usually I get about 4 hours…pop up like somethings on fire…pass back out and then be dog tired when the alarm goes off at 6:45. My sleep regiment changes more than Beyonce’s Wigs. I wish it and she would stop but we all see how that’s going.
@Ro,
“I wish it and she would stop but we all see how that’s going.”
Roflmao – ain’t that the truth!! Well, live it up as long as you can, ya never know when the tides will shift. *sighs* How come our parents and/or grandparents never told us this would happen? Hell, they told us everything else that would happen.
If it weren’t for the fact that they’re family…I’d drag their asses into court and SUE! *sighs* So unfair.
@RedBeanzNRice,
my family has nothing i would sue for anyway. so i’ll just stick to eating they food.
@RedBeanzNRice,
Shoot, I’m on about a 8 year streak of not being able to sleep more than 5 hours straight. Seriously, I get a couple hours in but then don’t get some good sleep until about 2 hours before my alarm goes off resulting in my behind dragging out the door every morning.
The only thing that works is Ambien. I swear that stuff makes me wake up feeling like a new born child. Note to self: call friend with Ambien hook up.
@Luvtheshoes,
is said “friend” a doctor? just checking… if you have a doctor friend, maybe run this by them hypothetically, just to be safe? the fda makes some bad decisions sometimes and it takes forever for some side effects to see the light of the popular press or those bootleg lawyer commercials (do you know someone with asbestos poisoning?)
There are many parts that go into the making of the ho. A person could be in a commited relationship with a person they waited to have sex with and still be Loose Legs Lucy (or Luis). I’m sure it depends on the actual people involved and the many, many situations that could have brought them to that first ‘date’.
We’re in the midst of the dying off of courting. Dates are hard to come by. Some people might see the date as way more than just a date. Some people dont want to wait. Some people’s first dates might include 7 hours of conversation, the saving of a puppy and the meeting of ones parents. After that, could you blame someone for giving it up? Nope. Becuase it involved a puppy among other things.
I’m just playing devil’s advocate.
In my eyes the con’s far outway the pro’s. I look at it the same way i look at weave: just because i don’t do it, doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Looks great on some people, it’s just not for me.
@Capitain Morgan,
“There are many parts that go into the making of the ho”
tshirt?
@Capitain Morgan,
In my eyes the con’s far outway the pro’s. I look at it the same way i look at weave: just because i don’t do it, doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Looks great on some people, it’s just not for me.
as resident vsb.com analogy guru, i officially approve of this analogy. it made your point clear…which is the point of any analogy, to make points clear and sh*t
There are many parts that go into the making of the ho
really?? you think so?? i figured there was only 1. well… maybe 2. ok… maybe 3 (to cover all orificies)
@Gem of the Ocean, “(to cover all orificies)” Don’t forget the ears! a la family guy.
if you can fit your whole D into some one’s ear to the point you’d count that as a valid orifice, there’s a SERIOUS problem!
*dead*
@Gem of the Ocean, You cant forget all the rolls on a big girl too…. (i dont practice this one but i’ve heard about it)
@Please Excuse Your Significant Other,
*puts hand on hip and points*
Corner, NOW. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 200 pesetas either. MOVE IT!
you’re right. if you have more “body parts” to work with and in, then yes, i guess there really are many parts to making a ho…
@Gem of the Ocean, corner!
what?!?! *stomping off and mumbling* i ain’t do nuffin…
@Gem of the Ocean,
mi e prima I say You get a lawyer, sounds like you have a good case of why you shouldnt be in the corner
any lawyers in the house up for being on retainer??
@Gem of the Ocean, my daddy’s a lawyer and he said you have no case. lol.
*snaps fingers* drats!!
@Capitain Morgan, well as long as we’re saving puppies and sh*t… that clearly doesn’t make one a ho! Hoes don’t care about the puppies! LMAO.
I don’t know, this one has been 50-50 for me.
I can say that the best women that have come into my life gave me some that day or that night or really soon thereafter.
Conversely, I took this girl out to eat and to the movies and stuff man we’re kissin’ and grindin’ and stuff, so we hop back to her spot, you know man, this broad rubbin’ all over my jimmy and frontin’ like she’s gonna give it to me, man, and the chick said three words, man: Stop, No and Don’t.
I said CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK… then went home. This went on for a good 90 days until I found out she nailed her boss, her ex-boyfriend, a stripper whom she met at East of the Ryan (chi-town), and her gay male best friend.
I swore off women for a good hour, 90 minutes behind that…
@Maximillian, for a whole hour to 90 minuts DAYUM!
@Intellectual Hedonist, I even glanced at a brochure from St. John’s Abbey to be a monk. I didn’t go, but their bread is great.
@Maximillian,
wow…you held out for her for 90 days?? impressive! lol
warning: chick logic to follow!
theres a possibility that she really really liked you and didnt want to eff it up by having relations with you too soon….i know it sounds redic, but ive been in that sort of position. i just feel less inclined to engage sexually early on (which doesnt mean i dont want to!) when its someone im genuinely interested in being with in a long-term kinda way. meanwhile, its much easier for me to go there when i know i have no intention of going farther (further?) than sex with a guy.
/chick logic
go do some math or something….it’ll help you recover.
i have a lot of friends who feel this way. they feel like if they’re gonna do ho sh*t, the need to do it with some one they have no desire to be emotionally connected to. but when it comes to a dude they’re interested in having somethin with long term, they’re slower to add sex to the equation. make sure there’s more to the relationship then just sex. idk.
@Gem of the Ocean, errbody else on this thread,
why it gotta be like that though? this whole entry got me on a permanent head tilt. what ever happened to waiting till it felt right, not necessarily i’m gonna make this ninja wait 83.2 days to hit?
whether i’m feeling you or not, see you as long term or not, i don’t just go jumping into bed with anybody, for any reason until i want to. that usually ends up being awhile after cause that’s just me. if others choose to get down on the first night, no judgment, it’s just not for me.
but the point i’m making is, it’s about me, how i feel and when i get to that level of comfort/connection and not about playing some nonsensical game about who wants to hit first. and no i wasn’t loose in my younger days and am now trying to make up for it.
this the thing, it’s all individual. some women use sex to control a situation/man. some women guard their “goodies” as sacred and treasured and therefore want to wait until they feel the time is right. some women want their goodies to be sampled, tasted, and spread out as often as possible.
it’s about personal choices.
@Gem of the Ocean, lol@sampled, tasted, and spread out as often as possible.
I’m with you on the personal choices. I guess it’s just that some of the responses have come across to me as either, if you give it up you’re a ho, or you’re playing games if you make him wait and that personal choice sometimes seems to be equated with doing something based on appearances or “chick logic.”
the truth is people are going to view you how they choose to, often regardless of what your intentions are i.e. deviant saying that at that point you were already thought of as ho. and i often hear guys complaining about how long some chick made them wait and yet, depending on that same guys mental state or just how the wind blows that day, the chick that didn’t make him wait is a ho or a godsend. where is the middle ground?
now, i’m well aware that chick logic does run rampant on occassion and that it is often a game for both sexes. i guess what i mean is, choosing to wait is not a game that i’m playing. i’m not sitting around in a corner hatching up a dibolical plan on how to give a ninja blue b@lls. i would just at least like to know a bit about you before i let you get all up in my stuff.
or maybe it’s just because i’ve never really been in the position to even consider first night sex. *shrug*
the truth is people are going to view you how they choose to, often regardless of what your intentions are
i couldn’t agree more. but at the same time, hoishness is just that. risky, unvetted, impulsive sexual behavior with a stranger (if it’s the 1st night) is some ho sh*t. if you (global sense of “you”) doin ho sh*t does that make you a ho? idk and i don’t really care. but the fact of the matter is, the behavior is questionable. and by engaging in it you put yourself in a position to be questioned. you can justify it if you want to, but that doesn’t change the act.
if you gon do ho sh*t, where that ish like a badge. matter of fact, paste the badge to the beeper and just go ahead and sprinkle on some glitter…
@Gem,
lmao. erykah is going down in the history books for that one.
i agree. it is risky and that’s why i don’t do it. i wasn’t
saying people are going to view you how they choose
to as a way to justify the actions. what i was saying by using deviant as an example was that before this mythical chick even made the choice to take it off, he already thought she was ho. so even if she had a change of heart, she’s still labeled as a ho in his eyes.
and if you happen to be a chick who doesn’t get down on the first night you are labeled as playing games or being a prude as you mention down thread.
my overall point is that your decisions have to be yours alone and not based on others because while you’re trying to figure out what’s best to do for the sake of appearances, winning the game, etc., that person has probably already tagged you in their mind.
and i just think it’s sad that women who choose not to engage in certain sexual relationships are labeled as prudes, stuck up or playing games simply because they choose to make the best decision for themselves. that just means she/i might not be the chick for you.
so just follow the glitter trail till you meet up with ‘ol girl.
lmao SG, you know you my girl!!! i sooo feel you on everything you say. and my comments were not directed AT you.
that being said, i wear the prude badge proudly. stuck up?? only on days ending with y. plays games?? only if there’s the word “strip” in the game title. truth betold, i’ve left a lot of dudes chopped and scrood. not on some teasing ish, but on some i told him he wont gon have any and yet he still tryna get up in it. no and suh.
sometimes its fun to see them beg. well not so much fun as it is sad and irritating. *shrugs* idk
Gem, no worries. you know i lurve you.
we are –>here<–
lol@i’ve left a lot of dudes chopped and scrood. not on some teasing ish, but on some i told him he wont gon have any and yet he still tryna get up in it. no and suh.
you are pulling memories out of my head on that one, i tell you!
@shatani,
*sigh* There are whole blog entries on the internets detailing my math ineptitude
Write a story? Sure. Find the slope of a line? ehhhh…
@Maximillian,
oddly enough, I still remember how to do that…if you want to be tutored that is. Math is always good to know.
@Ro,
y=mx+b wait no… m=Y1+Y2/X1+X2 n’ shyt… right?
Iono…i left algebra for stats a long time ago… its been a fruitful math relationship move *sigh*
@shatani,
at least you know its ridiculous. The pitfall of this thing is if the dude finds out you bang others while he jumps thru hoops you could get your feelings hurt. I know if I found out I’ll place you in the whore category and not even tell you. You’ll just end up wondering why I don’t call you anymore.
@Maximillian,
“I swore off women for a good hour, 90 minutes behind that…”
Wow. Couldn’t even make it a whole 3 hours, huh? I know – we’re like AIR. ; )
@Maximillian,
“This went on for a good 90 days until I found out she nailed her boss, her ex-boyfriend, a stripper whom she met at East of the Ryan (chi-town), and her gay male best friend. ”
And the ghey male best friend? What the WHAT?
@miss t-lee,
Yeah apparently he wanted to find out what it was like to be ‘the man’ and she obliged. In 20/20, I’m glad I didn’t touch her.
@Maximillian,
I’m glad you didn’t either homie.
this broad rubbin’ all over my jimmy and frontin’ like she’s gonna give it to me, man, and the chick said three words, man: Stop, No and Don’t.
lmao well all i can say is “you’ve officially been CHOPPED and SCREWWWWWWWED (screwed screwed)!!”
@Gem of the Ocean, lmao!
@Maximillian,
Love the Meth & Red reference, my dude!
@Maximillian, anytime ANYBODY references N.W.A.s greatest ignant song of all time “Automobile”, I’m a happy camper.
“…you don’t have to front on me b*tch/ don’t be afraid, it’s only a d*ck…”
R.I.P. Eazy E.
@Maximillian,
That sounds like Deviant’s theory is right.
The real trollops will hold off for a certain period of time (i.e 90 days) if they like you…. while banging everything that has 2 legs on the side.
There are a lot of parts that go into the making of a harlot indeed.
I do not think that you make the generalization of h*e-ness of the mere act of sleeping with someone on the first date. Personally, I think that the actions of both parties in the act and leading up to the act have to be taken into account.
Is this first meeting or first date? What was the situation prior to the first date (long talks, emails, phone calls, etc.)?
What are the details of the date? Was it an all-day surprise date that he planned through conversations that you had with him before (yes this has happened on a first date), or did he take you to Portillo’s for a burger and you dropped it like its hot?
And far do you go in this first act of passion?
@I was wondering…,
“Was it an all-day surprise date that he planned through conversations that you had with him before (yes this has happened on a first date), or did he take you to Portillo’s for a burger and you dropped it like its hot?”
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this reminds me of something i saw on bad girls club (which kind of sucks this season. they ain’t bad!) anyway, the girls were speed dating and this 2520 guy tells one of the black girls that she’s pretty. NO LIE–her response was “whaaaaat!!! you think i’m preeeeeeeeety? i’m like…i’m like turned on now. do you wanna see–i want… i.want.to.show.you.my.boobs.”
i was shocked and awed. like, am i not knowing how to play the game or is she just a ho?
@charli skipper,
*sighs* Girl, you ain’t never lied. This season is the worst ever. Oooh but did you see yesterday’s epi? See, I’ve been saying that damn Kayla needs her ass whooped – reppin Los Angeles when she’s weaker than a single tea bag in 10 cups of water. But ole girl, the otha sista (can’t think of her name off top) was ready to get in that ass after Kayla’s shenanigans. What did Kayla do? Not a damn thing – EXACTLY what we all knew would happen. I hate posers.
@RedBeanzNRice,
16
***the number of IQ points i just lost after reading this comment***
@The Champ,
“***the number of IQ points i just lost after reading this comment***”
*snickers* That’s assuming you had them in the first place. ; )
@RedBeanzNRice
OMG Kayla is definitely a poser. She’s quick to jump in the 2520′s face, because she thinks she can beat them, but she was on mute when Tiffany came at her (and I def. think Tiffany would have got in that azz). I can’t wait for the upcoming episode because it looks like Cookie chokes her out and kicks her in the coo coo.
“it looks like Cookie chokes her out and kicks her in the coo coo.”
Why must I cry?
@V Renee,
Yes, Tiffany is ole girl’s name, and thank you!
EXACTLY – Kayla does that mess with 2520′s, but she’d NEVER pull that mess with a sista. Last episode she even SAID she was hoping to be the only Black chick on there so she could “run the show” – yet another sign of being a poser.
But, HELL YEAH, Tiff ain’t no punk, despite her seemingly kind nature. I just know it’s gonna be on and crackin’ next episode, cause Kayla done pushed too many of Tiff’s buttons and Tiff ain’t havin it.
*sighs* I just wish we could be there on the set to “check” those hoes as their fake-assed-ness unfolds. Now, THAT would make for good reality T.V. drama, lol.
PS. That chick Boston is a semi-poser. Yeah, she’s a boxer and all, but her “anger” is staged as hell. Besides that, she’s only what…a buck 15 soaking wet? Please – ANYBODY in the house could blow on her and knock her ass over.
@RedBeanzNRice,
ehm, in the words of Queen Latifah.
A minute ago, you was a nerd and nobody ever heard of ya
Now you a wannabe…hard
You barely know your abcs, please
Theres plenty of people out there with tri**ers ready to pull it
Why you trying to jump in front of the bullet (young lady)
Uh, AND REAL BAD GIRLS ARE THE SILENT TYPE.
thank, U.N.I.T.Y………….
or as Tanisha said…”These chicks pop off for all the wrong reasons”
@RedBeanzNRice,
I freakin’ LOVE that show…
@PBG & Rita
Word.
@I was wondering…, Is this first meeting or first date? What was the situation prior to the first date (long talks, emails, phone calls, etc.)?
That’s a good point. There’s a difference if you’ve known each other for a while, but for whatever reason, waited until your first date.
good evening, vampires…
my personal opinion is that the cons outweigh the pros…however, I suppose that the definition of the term, in this case, is dependent on her motivation and/or intention when “dating”. if she’s not actively looking for long-term companionship or validation, and is, instead, sustained by temporary encounters w/men, then s3x on the first night is ideal for her. her idea of fulfillment may not necessarily match my own, but who’s to say that hers is wrong? (other than the Bible and her parents)
…ultimately, I guess it depends on what you want out of life. so, is she a ho or is she refusing to waste her time w/what she might consider mundane details?
p.s. my hope is that she is also being tested regularly and practicing safety.
@Resident GRitS,
so, is she a ho or is she refusing to waste her time w/what she might consider mundane details?
good question
@The Champ, she’s a ho who doesnt wanna waste her time?
@Please Excuse Your Significant Other, “she’s a ho who doesnt wanna waste her time?”
LoL @ h*es with schedules.
I think we should define what exactly is a one night stand. If you bed someone after just meeting them hours ago holds a different weight as oppose to someone whom you’ve talked to, got to know a little bit, and have established some type of vibe. In the latter situation, I don’t think respect would be lost.
@Monk, I think we should define what exactly is a one night stand.
I was thinking the same thing. From the post, I thought Panama was talking about a having sex on the first date, not having sex with the girl you just met 2 hours ago at the club.
“In the latter situation, I don’t think respect would be lost.”
I agree. Personally, I think the term hoe and all derivatives are thrown around much too casually.
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall…., I concur. There’s a big difference between giving it up to someone you’ve been talking to for a while and someone you just met at a club.
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall…., yeah, i’m speaking first date type stuff as opposed to first sighting.
any club jumpoffs that you’re digging out a mere 2 hours later is clearly on some hosh*t.
but a first date where the vibe is right? not so much.
@Panama Jackson, but a first date where the vibe is right? not so much.
i agree
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall….,
Personally, I think the term hoe and all derivatives are thrown around much too casually.
Word.Life (cf. Panama Jackson)
By the way, the title of this post reminded me of Kid ‘N Play’s song called ” Last Night”. None of y’all remember that, huh?
@Monk,
nah, all i got is that stupid one with Puffy and some chick whose name escapes me, but i think shes a pretty big deal. lol
@ shatani..thats the one I was thinking of too..
@Monk,
Last night changed it all, last night, I-I-I really had a ball.
Yep, that’s what popped into my head too.
@Monk,
Funny…I didn’t think of that one, I thought of that Puffy/Keyshia Cole song that was out not too long ago.
@Monk, actually, before the word count got too long, i had a brief description of why i titled it “last night” in reference to the Az Yet song, which was a pretty terrible song as terrible songs go, though it had the funny line of “last night, when i was inside of you…”
for some reason, that just never seems like the right thing to say to a chick ever.
@Panama Jackson,
Is that the same song where he sees “the sun, the moon, the mountains and the rivers” after the woman put it on him? Because that is always appropriate to say to a woman you were just “inside of.”
@Panama Jackson,
I like that Az Yet song…
I saw the stars, the moon, the mountains and the rivers…
I mean come on! That must have been some bomb ass cooch!e right there to elicit all these sightings.
LOL stop killing meeee!
@Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.,
“I saw the stars, the moon, the mountains and the rivers…I mean come on! That must have been some bomb ass cooch!e right there to elicit all these sightings.”
Part of me thinks he was on hallucinogens.
@RedBeanzNRice, p^ssy is a hell of a drug….*hangs head in shame that this was my first thought after reading your comment*
hmm I must say I am a little tired of discussing ho shyt.. I mean it is what it is what it is…….bottom line I am not going to get into whether or not its ho shyt.. I am going to ask how many successful long term relationships have been started from 1 night stands?
@Shay-d-lady,
*raising hand* It wasn’t a first date either! We met at the bar and went back to her spot and got it in, literally. What can I say, the vibe was just there. We both weren’t looking for no relationship, we was just to adults having fun.
Now I’ve never really stuck around after meeting someone under those circumstances, I mean I might hit it a few more times but after that I’m done with you. What made her different was . . .how can I say this . . okay . . .”when you ride the greatest roller coaster in your life you don’t get on a different one, you get your @ss right back in that line” (20 cool points if anyone can guess what movie that came from). Plus she was mad cool. It was one of them situations where we both turned each other out. After 4 months of JO status we finally made it official.
She now is the mother of my 2 kids and we’re still together. It will be 5 years on MLK day (let freedom ring), that was the night we first got down too, lol.
@eff yo couch
Awwwwwwwwww. I love love stories.
@V Renee,
So do I. Especially the “freaky” ones. Good for you eff!
@eff yo couch,
so… ummm… my question is…. why aren’t yall married? are their or have their ever been any plans of marriage??
@Gem of the Ocean,
Yeah we have plans for marriage, but we haven’t set a date or nothing like that. We recently moved into a bigger house, and we’re are still trying to get that settled. For real, for real, the both of us are seriously thinking about going to the justice of piece and getting it over with
i see. why didn’t yall get it over with after baby #1?? and if i’m being too nosy, feel free to say so.
@Gem of the Ocean,
Honestly, I don’t think I was ready (I was still clubbing, being selfish, spending unnecessary money . . . young & dumb) and didn’t really want to do it. We didn’t really talk about it as much as everyone around us did. You know how ninja’s be in our business . . . kind of like your doing now, but here on VSB sharing is caring
lmao @ “kind of like your doing now”
hey, i was curious. so i asked. i have no shame. but i back off when asked. thanks for sharing
i’ll be sure to pry into your life again some time soon.
@eff yo couch, Happy early Anniversary!!
@eff yo couch, hold the phone. is this the boo piece you mentioned a few months back in florida. sorry man, my vsb memory is biotch.
@Shay-d-lady,
Seen plenty. Couple of marriages. When adults know who they are and why they do the things they do and don’t follow some circumvulated theories about who should do what at what time, some pretty amazing things can happen.
I think I am more tired of the hosh*t police than the hoes themselves.
@Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.,
I think I am more tired of the hosh*t police than the hoes themselves.
Me too! 90% of the time the ho sh!t po po is angry cuz they aint getting none. Matter of fact, I take that stat back. 100% of the time.
@Dom, lol. I was gonna write the same thing…you beat me to it. But, that is either the case, or they are bigger hoes than the girls they are trying to police, and are trying to use reverse psychology to keep the masses from seeing the truth….
Me too! 90% of the time the ho sh!t po po is angry cuz they aint getting none. Matter of fact, I take that stat back. 100% of the time.
really?!?!?! lmao any woman worth her weight can get some D. getting D is not hard (well, you hope it IS hard when you do get it but i digress…). hell, gettin the gotdamn D is easier than gettin Ds on report cards. plenty of men to whip it out and smash it up.
i’m the first to admit i dont have casual sex and i’ve gone years in between having it on the regular from a man i was boo’d up with. but that’s my choice, not becuz i can’t get any. and lack of the D aint never once made me angry or jealous of a chick ho shatting all over the place.
ho sh*t comes naturally to some ppl. closed legs come naturally to me. we all have our own way of doing things.
@Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase., “I think I am more tired of the hosh*t police than the hoes themselves.*
*takes special edition platinum star out of bag and pins it on sula*
@Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.,
“When adults know who they are and why they do the things they do and don’t follow some circumvulated theories about who should do what at what time, some pretty amazing things can happen.
I think I am more tired of the hosh*t police than the hoes themselves.”
I’m engaged to and pregnant by a man who had fallen head over heels for someone he knew for approximately 6 days 4 months ago.
sometimes it happens faster than you need them to to prove to OTHER people that its real.
2 ppl in a relationship know who they are to each other, its just the conspicuous things like wedding bands and sharing last names that let EVERYONE ELSE know whats up.
@Shay-d-lady,
We all know that if a girls s3x game is on point, they gonna be @ Jared’s the next day.
@WestIndianArchie,
And the ho shi!t po po will be in the background talking about all the “rules” she broke. Mad cuz it aint them.
@Dom, men being the original howes themselves wouldn’t pass up any coochie that wasn’t diseased. that being said, if a girl isn’t getting some, and says she chooses not to cause she has (like an adult) weighed the pros and cons, and decided it is not what SHE needs, why is she ho police? that sounds like ho projection to me.
for every howe that get’s roca wear suit, white nike-d, there are 90 tragic doing the wall slide. not every aids diagnosis has a magic johnson ending.
please, let us all be real.
signed,
ho-meland security.
“if a girl isn’t getting some, and says she chooses not to cause she has (like an adult) weighed the pros and cons, and decided it is not what SHE needs, why is she ho police?”
I believe you just gave it that definition. I, on the other hand, said nothing of the sort.
oh, that old ‘hoe’ question agaian…*deep sigh*.
looking at my own dating/one-night-stand history, i’ve only done the ‘first night’ thing with a guy who, if i never saw him again, it really wouldn’t matter -eg, Mr. Right Now, OR a guy who’s really cool, and i’d like to get to know better, but because of circumstances, probably won’t (eg, he lives in another country, etc…)
however, one of my best relationships ( it lasted 2 good years, and 10 years later, we’re still great friends), it happened on the first date, and were all coupled up for 2 cosy years thereafter.
so there’s no telling really – i guess it comes down to your chemistry with this person and your instinct about the situation – and ultimately, what YOU want.
@superwoman,
however, one of my best relationships ( it lasted 2 good years, and 10 years later, we’re still great friends), it happened on the first date, and were all coupled up for 2 cosy years thereafter.
what happened and sh*t (why arent you still together)?
@The Champ, oh nothing dramatic, the relationship just ran its course, really, and we “grew apart” – in the nicest way possible. i have a whole lot of affection and respect for him, and vice versa.
@superwoman,
“oh, that old ‘hoe’ question agaian…*deep sigh*.”
you been on a roll the past two days with your disappointment haven’t you, superwoman?
@Panama Jackson, INDEED!!! i’m holding out that tomorrow you guys will deliver a humdinger!
i’m optimistic like that – plus you guys are Very Smart Brothers, riiight???
@ shatani &shay-d,
I was thinking of that song from the New Jack Swing era of r&b that goes “last night, I was inside of you…” I forget the name of the group but they were talking about the sun, the moon, the mountains and heaven.
Anywhoo, to the topic at hand. Being that I have a crypt populated with skeletons of this persuasion, the cons definitely outweighed the pros for me
*pro: you get some
*con: he can’t lay pipe
*pro: you bring your A game for your own sake
*con: you brought your A game and now you have a stalker- especially if u were a dummy and let them come over
*con: you live in a ‘big small city’ and you see your skeletons walking around when u are with new boo
*pro: it cures the akward silence
*con: it is expected to happen from now on
Yeah, no thanks. You can keep that!
@blackberry molasses on her Crackberry, LOL that was Az YET… I Looooved that song!!!
@blackberry molasses on her Crackberry,
*sighs*
I know it’s bedtime cause when I saw your name, I read: Blackberry Moses.
Night.
@blackberry molasses on her Crackberry,
“con: he can’t lay pipe” – I agree & disagree because you would probably me 100x more angry if you would have waited a long time for the wack s3x
“con: you brought your A game and now you have a stalker” – never bring your A game. Your husband or SO should only the only ones on the receiving end of your A game. Bring your C+ or B game.
“con: you live in a ‘big small city’ and you see your skeletons walking around when u are with new boo” – this has happened to me, but its jsut like when you run into one of yor exes when you when your new boo, so to me this is no big deal. Just don’t be all extra & shty
@eff yo couch,
“con: you brought your A game and now you have a stalker” – never bring your A game. Your husband or SO should only the only ones on the receiving end of your A game. Bring your C+ or B game.
lol…whats the difference?
@The Champ,
between your C+ game & B game? There’s really no difference I guess. All I’m saying is just don’t put it down like your life depended on it. I think JO rules could double as One night Stand rules
@eff yo couch,
“between your C+ game & B game? There’s really no difference I guess.”
I’m guessing the C+ game is a ride and a spin – the B game is a ride, a spin, and a twerk. That twerk is a muhfukka.
@RedBeanzNRice,
I don’t think the C+ game is even a ride though…. I’m thinkin more like what that black girl did in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. I loved that movie.
(very nonchalantly) “uh uh uh uh I just came uh uh”
That movie is fukcing hilarious. It has SOO many one-liners.
@blackberry molasses,
Loved that movie to pieces. It was just good and full of quotables.
I do love it so, for its quotables.
“Just went from six to midnight” is my new favorite euphemism for male excitement.
And the rocker guy had the best deadpan humor ever.
@blackberry molasses on her Crackberry, would we call that song from the New Jack Swing era? I feel like that song came out in the mid to late 90s (i believe, but don’t quote me on this, that it was on the Nutty Professor Sdtk at first)…and they were one of Babyface’s groups…he was definitely more smooth R&B.
@Panama Jackson,
you’re probably right, oh musical historian. did you check the timestamp of that quote? i was barely coherent….. just coherent enough to type that and proceed to pass out. so i may have been a wee bit off with my timing.
and i agree that song was wacktastic. i was in HS when it came out (I at least remember that ) and listening to it made me feel… creepy crawly. I appreciate the sentiment beind it (if any) but….eeeaugh!!! *shudders*
That Wonderful Dance Party is the only one I’m committing to that weekend. All else can kick rocks. I WILL be there for that one.
I’ll comment on the rest of this hosh*t tomorrow.
my momma (actually not my momma but someone who’s like a momma) told me that it’s not so much about when you put out but how you’re going to feel about yourself after the deed is done. so, if putting out somewhere between the 10th minute and the 10th hour makes you feel less than (a.k.a. a ho*) don’t do it. personally, i think ho* shyt is when you continue to engage in acts that make you feel lesser than but you do it anyway either out of insecurity or to uphold an image.
still, having said all of that i don’t have a single married friend who put out on the first date with the man who is now their husband. or, maybe they’re all liars. i don’t know…lol.
by the way, happy new yearVSB fam’!!!
@Miss Patterson,
Happy New Year to u, also…and ur play-momma was dead on.
@Miss Patterson,
lol at the “10th minute”. i can almost imagine some date where they start getting it on in the bathroom before the appetizers even arrived
@Miss Patterson,
i think ho* shyt is when you continue to engage in acts that make you feel lesser than but you do it anyway either out of insecurity or to uphold an image
Wholeheartedly, 100% cosign this here definition of hosh*t.
Happy New Year to you too Ms. Patterson!
I will mos def try to make it out to liv. Haven’t seen Bobbito spin since nyc about 2 yrs ago…
Oh yeah…thats hoebaggery. Cons definitely outweigh the pros.
Well, according to the number of pros listed vs. the number of cons listed, the pros literally outweigh the cons. But in terms of content, I’d have to say the cons outweigh the pros.
In theory it might seem like a good idea to get down on the first night – especially if your motor’s been idling high all during the date. But in reality, it isn’t.
I went on a date with this dude named Savon when I first moved to Sacramento – I was green, a mere lass of 23 in a new city. Dude had me sprung on conversation alone – I mean hypnotized, a la Bootney Farnsworth. *sighs* Woo lawd did I wanna give that man the draws! Hell, he coulda got the bra, the garter AND the damn stockings, but I digress.
So at any rate, I didn’t give it up – I figured I better get to know him a lil better. Come to find out that chucklehead was married, had 3 dogs, 2 cats and 4 goldfish between him and his wife, and 4 (count em) FOUR baby mamas and to top it off the n*ggas name wasn’t even Savon – it was HARVEY!
Moral of the story:
It’s best to put your hormones on pause and get to really know the person before doing the do, you’ll save yourself a lot of shame and possible heartache.
@RedBeanzNRice,
damn!! harvey dent played you for real!!
excellent cautionary tale…ive got a couple i could share as well! lol bottom line, experience has shown a pattern and since im trying to fight the insanity im gonna try and do something DIFFERENT and expect a different outcome.
@shatani,
“im gonna try and do something DIFFERENT and expect a different outcome.”
Best way to do it. You go girl! I can’t even front like I don’t wanna hear the stories, though. Please DO tell, lol.
@RedBeanzNRice,
Ol’ boy needs to write a book, lol. Damn
@eff yo couch,
I hate that you said that, cause truth be told, that sh*t would be a bestseller. *sighs*
On a sidenote, your name cracks me the hell up. Every time I see it, I instantly think of that Rick James/Charlie & Eddie Murphy episode on the Dave Chappelle Show where Rick was stompin on Eddie’s white couch with muddy shoes.
@RedBeanzNRice,
yeah “eff yo couch” best describes how I live my life. I can be very “iggnant” like that . . .sometimes. I take pride in being an @sshole, it takes hard work and dedication
@eff yo couch,
“I take pride in being an @sshole, it takes hard work and dedication”
I really and truly HATE to bust your bubble, but…
It doesn’t take hard work or dedication to be an assh*le; it only takes will, lol.
Personally, I think you’re a wannabe assh*le. You’re really a sweetheart, but you disguise yourself as an assh*le cause you want folks to think you’re “hard”.
Nothing wrong with that – we’ll always love ya – you’re just so damn charming. ; )
@RedBeanzNRice,
i’m just mad you willingly dated someone named “savon”
@The Champ,
LMAO
@The Champ,
“i’m just mad you willingly dated someone named “savon”
Ok, I really wanna be mad at you for saying that, but it’s just so damn funny that I can’t be. *sighs* Champ, why must you be so Champ-like?
@The Champ,
*beep* ———————– *beep*
Flatlined.
@Linda (AKA “Mommy”),
Da fcuk???
@PBG aka My Favorite Midget
I know right? I thought I read that comment earlier. Perhaps she copied your post with intent to paste and comment? But then she started a new post on the next line, so who knows. *sighs* If that wasn’t the intent, looks like you got a stan.
@PBG,
yoooooo… I was creeped out too. I’m like, “PGB Doppleganger?!?!? WTF?!?!”
**shiudders**
PBG, do you need my interwebs DropSquad on call?? Just in case??
“Hard to top – If you do it all on the first date, what is there really to look forward to for the next date? As far as dude’s concerned, every nights a Blockbuster Night. I imagine it would suck to be trying to get to know somebody who kept asking about what color panties you had on.”
This right here says it all. What’s the incentive on both parties to move any further towards anything meaningful when you’ve already had the goodies?
@miss t-lee, “What’s the incentive on both parties to move any further towards anything meaningful when you’ve already had the goodies?
Wouldn’t this statement imply that the goodies are the be all and end all? I do think the cons outweigh the pros btw.
@IVR,
For some the goodies are the be all end all…
@miss t-lee,
Then the earlier you know it, the better off you are.
@IVR,
“Wouldn’t this statement imply that the goodies are the be all and end all?”
On a first date it sure as sh*t could be.
@IVR,
Wouldn’t this statement imply that the goodies are the be all and end all?
good point. basically, that statement implies that women feel that there cooch is the only meaningful thing they have to offer a guy. its the v-test all over again
@The Champ,
Not the only meaningful thing, but a dayum good thing.
@miss t-lee, “Not the only meaningful thing, but a dayum good thing.”
It is a good thing, but saying that it takes away the
incentive to go further sounds like you are saying once sex is had it is all over.
@IVR,
I don’t think I said that once the booty is got it’s all over. My reasoning is why else would I want to get to know you if I’ve already been with you, especially on a first date? It takes the thrill out of the chase, don’t you think?
Yes…some relationships have been born out of first date booty, but I’m thinking those are pretty few and far between.
I’m talking about a real first date btw. No prior meetings, no casual acquaintances before hand–someone you just met 3 or 4 days before.
@The Champ,
Exactly the point I have been trying to make my entire life. Why is your coochie your most precious jewel?
What about your soul, your spirit? The cooch is mighty important too (it is afterall power!) but it’s more of a three-sprong army than anything else.
Well, I definitely agree that it shouldnt be your ONLY precious jewel, but it should be just as important to you as your soul and your spirit, don’t you think?
I think there should be a healthy balance between thinking its all you have to offer a man, and thinking that its not as important as everything ELSE you have to offer a man, you feel me?
@8th Wonder,
I feel you. Most def.
They all work in unison somewhat. Depending on the day, the hour one might take over, but they definitely go hand in hand.
Wouldn’t this statement imply that the goodies are the be all and end all?
i don’t necessarily think of it this way. i think many women fear they will only be a hole to a man’s pole. there are many women who don’t want to only be good for taking pipe or feel like the D is the only thing her man has to offer her. that being said, women who want to wait (alliteration, anyone?) on sex may just want to ensure that the relationship has substance, that she is compatible with her partner, that becuz they share common interests they will continue to go out in public and spend quality time together (outside of sexual intimacies), etc etc the list could go on.
for me, it’s not that i think my goodies are so great (though they are) that it’s saved for last, but that i’m not interested in casual sexual relationships. so without the prospect of a long-term courting relationship and all the things that come with it, it’s not going down.
but that’s just me.
and me.
@8th Wonder, me three
@Gem of the Ocean,
good post chick.
thanks boo.
I had a dream about staying up late last night so that I could be in the one spot on VSB.com…this I truly believe is a problem.
I will be in DC for the festivities and I can’t wait.
Is there another meet and greet planned for your faithful Floridian followers to attend?
As for the post, ummm yeah…it’s not a good look. I’ve slept with a guy or two on the first date and I hate to admit it but they stuck around, one even proposed…maybe my vajayjay was just that d@mn good…but that’s neither here nor there.
It was nervewrecking to wonder if they would call after we did the do…but it’s something I knew going into it. Now that I’m older I want more for my body and my life so I wait it out.
I change men like weaves, sooo sleeping with every guy I date would in fact make a wh*re…and since I’m trying to avoid that label I think that women should wait, at least until the man’s rep leaves and the real man shows up.
D!ck comes a dime a dozen, but a good man is one in a million(ok, maybe I’m exaggerating a tad)…but you get my point.
Withhold sex or die!
@Teacia,
the confidence pills store just called. they wanted to know if you were happy with that lifetime supply you ordered a few months ago.
@The Champ,
“the confidence pills store just called. ”
Ok, you know I have an e-crush on you and all, but datgummit…THAT was lame. Yes, I’m guilty of being lame too, but dang, that was LAME. It’s no longer the year of “Friends”.
I luh you and all, but dang, lol.
*sighs*
Ok, bedtime again. Or naptime, rather. Thank Jehovah I’m off work today so I can get in some snoozing, lol.
@The Champ, Lol…Hi Hater!
“For women, it can be nervewracking – I’m guessing since most women tend to spend a lot of time hoping that the men they went out with are still interested in general, I can only guess that knowing he has little yet to aspire to would send the anxiety to N.A.S.A. like levels. Will he call? Does he still like me? Will he think I’m a tramp? ”
This is the biggest con for me, and not worth it.
Although I do admire those that can have s3x and not have a care in the world afterwards… I am friends with this group of 2520s… I spent NYE with them and of course, some black guys… there was this one black who’d slept with every chick in there BUT ME. And there was no drama, no feelings, nothing. U wouldn’t have ever known any of them had had s3x… and he was flirting with all of them.
I was fascinated.
@Nicki Sunshine,
he needs a book deal too, lol
@eff yo couch, They’ve told me he was a smooth one..
Oh, one of the girls was my homegirls was black. He’d had her too.
@Nicki Sunshine,
I was fascinated.
sh*t, me too
@The Champ,
That’s nothing spectacular–that’s my college football team and all their 2520 jump off- it was a very regular occurance
@Nicki Sunshine, “there was this one black who’d slept with every chick in there BUT ME. And there was no drama, no feelings, nothing. U wouldn’t have ever known any of them had had s3x… and he was flirting with all of them. ”
Not to be racist . . . but I dont think that would have happened if all of those women were black/latina . . . I’m gonna call cultural difference on this one.
@IVR, I agree…. I define think it was a 2520 thing.
@Nicki Sunshine,
” there was this one black who’d slept with every chick in there BUT ME”
*starts rolling with 2520s*
So, Caitlin…what’s up
@WestIndianArchie,
LOL!!
@WestIndianArchie, LOL. End up like Kobe and OJ if ya wanna!
I’ve actually smashed on the first nite and dated the chick later on. That was the only time I did it and she turned out to be real cool. In the back of my mind I assumed her numbers were a lot higher than I would’ve liked, but I was younger and more foolish at the time.
I’d have to say the pros outweigh the cons as long as I got that latex/polyurethane. Cuz if I’m smashing nite 1, I have no intention of dating shorty…ever.
@Slim Jackson,
There were those times where I never expected to smash but after a few good phone conversations it happened. Did I look down on the chick for it? Nah. As a matter of fact I’m (platonic) friends with a couple of 1st niters now.
The main con that I have had was always the sex being great and icing on the cake, but sometimes, that’s just it. I think the only time I was really worried about a chick’s numbers is if she actually speaks on it or has an infamous reputation as being the community glory hole attendant. Women who are at least forthcoming with the fact that they want the Captain’s staff get my props for at least clearing the air.
@CPT Callamity,
“Women who are at least forthcoming with the fact that they want the Captain’s staff get my props for at least clearing the air.”
Agreed.
” Cuz if I’m smashing nite 1, I have no intention of dating shorty…ever.”
And there it is, folks!
signed. sealed. delivered.
@Slim Jackson, “Cuz if I’m smashing nite 1, I have no intention of dating shorty…ever.”
Interestingly enough, she may have no intention in dating you….
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall….,
Why did I almost type that before scrolling down?
@Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.,
great minds and shit….
@Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.
Umm, would you happen to be a Business Analyst in the real world?
@Slim Jackson,
A little bit of it all. I am a wizard!
I just got news my favorite rapper of all time will be having a concert that same night, so I might slide through afterwards. The only problem is ninjas at my job started requesting off for Janurary 20th on Novemeber 5th of last year. So i will have to use some sick time
I hate to say it, but it looks like Allstar weekened will be coming early this year, word to Mad Skillz
@eff yo couch,
I just got news my favorite rapper of all time will be having a concert that same night, so I might slide through afterwards.
chingy?
@The Champ, LMAO.
@The Champ
LMAO @ Chingy aka Daddy’s Angel. Bless his heart.
@eff yo couch, yeah, that Jay concert is gonna put the kibosh on A LOT of parties depending on how much they’re charging. tickets go on sale on Friday morning everybody…FYI.
also, did DC folks hear that they’re closing every inbound bridge from Arlington on inauguration day? LOL. what.a.blower. i’m glad i live in the District.
@Panama Jackson,
What the address to your establishment so I can mapquest it?
@eff yo couch,
2001 11th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20001
@Panama Jackson, “also, did DC folks hear that they’re closing every inbound bridge from Arlington on inauguration day? LOL. what.a.blower. i’m glad i live in the District.”
Jay is coming to DC? Damn I’m out the loop . . .and yes, I heard on the news this morning that we gonna have to walk over the bridge . . . Good thing I am staying home . . . Hopefully they will reopen in time for me to enjoy the 24 hour liquor flow.
@Panama Jackson,
I’m mad that this is turning into the Black Event of the Millenium. Like the Kappa Beach Party, Freaknik, the Greek, Essence Fest, Taste of Chigaco, NSBE and Howard Homecoming, all rolled into one.
Good Golly!
meaning: black ho sh*t is about to go down, BIG TIME!!
@Gem of the Ocean,
all KINDS of ho sh*t is about to be going down
My President is Black Ho Sh*t
One Love Ho Sh*t
This is Historical Ho Sh*t
I’ve never been with a guy/girl from (insert obscure state name here) Ho Sh*t
My Hotel is in Delaware, but yours is in DC Ho Sh*t
Change I Believe Ho Sh*t
The Bridges R Closed Down Ho Sh*t
I Came All The Way From (_____) Ho Sh*t
I Didn’t Vote But I’m Still Excited Ho Sh*t
I Like Your Obama Shirt Ho Sh*t
I Don’t Usually Do This But… Ho Sh*t
I Took the Whole Week Off For This Ho Sh*t
Dream Deferred Til This Week Ho Sh*t
@Gem of the Ocean, don’t forget mavericky ho sh*t, she was good for something!
@Gem of the Ocean,
We cuddled in the cold to watch the parade Ho sh*t
I cried on you shoulder cuz I was so moved Ho sh*t
We danced at the pre inauguration get down Ho Sh*t
MLK’s Dream Realized Ho Sh*t
I’ve never messed with a Secret Service agent Ho Sh*t
@Panama Jackson, @Panama Jackson, @Panama Jackson, oh yeah and MARC (maryland) transit is charging $25 roundtrip to go to DC on inauguration day. it costs $6.50 for shipping & handling to have the ticket mailed to you. and you get a commemorative booklet. whoopie frickin’ do. capitalist pigs! lol
@Miss Patterson,
Why are you stuttering?
@RedBeanzNRice, lol…i don’t know what happened. computer hiccup maybe? not sure.
@Panama Jackson,
Closing the bridge?? I am SOOO glad I live in the District!
I may just walk to your establishment to avoid parking woes and that azzholish Metro fare hike.
Inauguration-Exploitation Ho Sh*t.
Like I said on Monday I have no problems with smashing on the first night, just don’t fcuk me like p0rn star . . .that’s only if your looking for a relationship or my respect.
@eff yo couch, “Like I said on Monday I have no problems with smashing on the first night, just don’t fcuk me like p0rn star . . .that’s only if your looking for a relationship or my respect.”
Won’t this thinking just cause the h*’s to hold out on their A game when looking for their Captain? Or what about a girl who was with one dude for a long time been without for mad long and you and that dude just like the same type of smash coincidentally . . . I am not trying to get no wack @ss chach . . . if a woman is gonna do me I want it done to the best of her capabilities. Just my opinion.
@IVR,
I hear what your saying and I agree. I not saying I wouldn’t hit it again or never call (that call would be a booty call) My point is if we’re having a one night stand and you let me do the stuff I only see in movies (I could get graphic, but you get the idea) then that’s suspect behavior and the chances of that one night stand turning into something meaningful are slimmer than that Olsen chick.
@eff yo couch,
Like I said on Monday I have no problems with smashing on the first night, just don’t fcuk me like p0rn star .
so basically, if she just lays there, its all good?
@The Champ,
no I not saying I would want her to just lay there, but don’t expect me to respect you in the morning if you ask me “to go in through the backdoor before the deed begins” (I have to credit IRV for the quote) and give you a facial afterwards. I’ll likely do it, but I won’t respect you for it. Nate Dogg’s verse on “aint no fun” comes to my mind on this subject. I’m talking about unusual behavior on a one night stand . . . then again some shyt I find unusual might be normal to some
@eff yo couch, just be careful that you don’t expect p*rn star behavior only to be delivered by ho*s. seriously, i read somewhere that this can lead to problems in the bedroom when the hubby puts his wife on a pedestal so high that he’s unable to engage in any freaky behavior with her. so, inevitably he reserves the freaky behavior for his side girl. [is that what they call it 'side girl'?, isn't there a cooler way to say this? am i showing my 30 something-ness?] goodbye.
vsb: where husbands and wives are encouraged to have freaky s*x. p.s.-back door, not so much.
Complete side note:
Did you hear of the battle of the extra-shcmedium jeans that happened in the LV store in Manhattan?! Our very own most loathed dirt boy Pigpen (aka Jim Jones) got into a fight with…. Neyo.
If that ain’t a high class b*tch fight, then I don’t know what is.
Oh, iDied when I heard about this.
@blackberry molasses, Yea it was all over NY radio. It started with Jim Jones poppin off at the mouth about Hov. One of Jay-Z’s mans was there and snuffed Jimmy. Dipset jumped Jay’s man. Ne-Yo tried to break it up and ended up getting stomped out too
@blackberry molasses,
they must have been fighting over the last bag in the store.
lol i think some one mentioned this yesterday. i think such a cat fight is one the world could have done without. those losers…
@blackberry molasses, yeah i’d heard about that. you really can’t make stuff like that up. its a story that just writes itself.
in fact, i’m waiting for the movie, to be made Crash-like, where the film chronicles each participants day before they run into eachother in the LV store and begin the fighting.
i want to hear the convos from both Ne-Yo’s camps (Ta-Ta’s brother was who got in the fight initially) and Jimmy’s camp about going to the LV store on some “i REALLY need some new Louis rags…like BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD. A!”
@Panama Jackson,
“in fact, i’m waiting for the movie, to be made Crash-like, where the film chronicles each participants day before they run into eachother in the LV store and begin the fighting.”
Oh hell naw.
Bet not!!!! lol
Happy New Year and Happy Hump Day homies!!
**Dubai was grrrrreeeaaattt!! I brought you all baby camels so feel free to collect your new pet at will!!** ;o)
I would be HEATED and I do mean HEATED if I waited and waited and waited only to find that the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow was more like gold plated. But then again that is no reason to succumb to ho sh!t…sometimes you just have to “feel around” or hug real close to find out what dude is working with. How awkward is that??….you just laid it DOWN and he was WACKTASTIC!!! I could probably count on one minus one hand how many times he’d get the business again…please don’t waste my time! Dang!
On the real though, it’s probably a case by case situation. One-night-stands-I-met-you-at-the-club-and-took-you-home-that-night type sh!t would naturally have a slim to none chance of ever…and I mean eeeevvvvveeerrrr turning in to a relationship.
A first date on the other hand…well hey, you win some you lose some. If he’s not in the market for a relationship, you giving him cakes and pies on the first night or the 15th night probably won’t change his mind much.
If he is in fact looking for someone to wife up and he likes you well enough…1st or 15th: You may still be in the running towards becoming ya boy’s next wifey. *chuckles*
But hey…what do I know??
@This Just In,
Imma have to co-sign your post. Oh…and can I pick up my baby camel in DC during inauguration or are you shipping them things directly????
@Luvtheshoes,
I’ll ship her before she gets too big…I hope you have a big back yard!
)
@This Just In,
I agree with many of the points presented in this comment post (I’m getting sick of co-signing).
And please please tell me you took lots of pictures and have them posted somewhere. *sigh* I wish to stroll down memory lane. I haven’t been to Dubai in 7 years. Its time to go back!!
Oh and while I appreciate the baby camel, I have far too many plants that camels like to eat in my house. So I’ll just take some 22 carat gold please
@blackberry molasses,
Ain’t nothing wrong with co-signing!! ;o)
I took tons of pics…I’m going to post them on facebook, and when I do I’ll see you the link. I think in about 5 more years, Dubai/Sharjah will be even more spectacular than it already is!
So are you telling me you don’t want a fat and happy camel? he he he! The Gold Souk was crazy!!! I had a good time yelling at people. Your gold is on the way!! boooooooo-yyyyaaaaaaaaoooooo!!!!
@This Just In,
ain’t that Gold Souk ri-gat dang-diculous?!
People who have never seen that kind of gold have NO idea what gold really looks like… I mean DAYUM.
@This Just In,
Co-sign this entire post.
And thanks for the Baby Camel. It will replace my tickle-me Elmo.
@This Just In, wooohoo! I’m gonna be in Dubai this summer!
I tend to stray from “getting it in on the first night/time out/encounter or w/e it’s the 1st of.” I’m guilty of doing it a few times, only once was it worth it. The rest, I just ended up with bugaboo’s calling me all the time.
I wonder… guys.. do you ever hesitate doing tha dew on the first date or w/e?
I wonder… how often does a man’s feelings get hurt when after the biblical encounter you are left out like a raisin in the sun?
Because most of you all seem to come off like it wouldn’t matter one way or the other…as long as the humpin around was good to/for you.
@Ro,
To me it doesn’t matter one way or the other. It won’t affect if I like you (as a person). I might enjoy boning you tho. Problem for you is you may not know the difference.
@Ro,
I forgot to add..if I’m on a date with you that means I want to bone you so why would I hesitate to do so? That makes no sense.
@Ro,
Have I turned down the p on a 1st date?
Hell yeah. It increases your mojo to reject these fees out of hand.
I remember this chick wanted to check the mic @ the movie theater. I was like, “This is Undercover Brother, cinematic master piece”
Cats should make it a habit to be choosy.
And I don’t mean by letting fees pass by and not speaking, but dealing with them, taking stock of what you want out of a relationship and stop letting these chicks get away with murder.
fees?!?!?! smh
I think people date differently and the level of h*dom depends on the person.
Generally I believe that people who are serious daters (vs. casual daters) screw on the 1st night do so because they believe they have such a connection with their date that they will build a strong LTR whereas casual daters do so because they feel like they’ve built a connection enough to determine at the time that they can screw and either be done with it, or if it’s real good be the JO.
But h*dom is a personality. A h* will screw whomever, whenever, wherever and however without regard to the other person (or if they get down like that persons) involved.
The problem comes in when a casual dater hooks up with a serious dater and they screw on the 1st night. Even if they’ve known the incompatibility beforehand. Because in their minds the other person has agreed and accepted the terms they’ve set without communicating that.
And in that case both parties have h*dultery because neither party was made aware before the act of what said act would imply
“I’ll spend the next day wondering if it took the last guy 4 hours and dinner or should I have just pulled out my schlong, put it on your shoulder and said, “you know what to do.””
LMAO. you’re sick.
i’m sure i’ll be one of the few people when i say that female or male, this makes you a trollop. wear your title with pride.
and i’d like to disagree with #3 of the pros… no, everybody might not be happy. it might have sucked, majorly.
@laylah, that was a good one, right?
I’m going to go ahead and play the other side of the fence here and stick up for the ho’s I mean, pros. At least for the situations I’ve been in. Allow me to get personal for a minute.
I’ve been on a lot of first dates over the years. Some of them end with a panty dropping session. Most of them ended with a nice hug. I’m not going to say I make a habit of getting down on a first date, but when it has happened I haven’t beat myself up about it. Why should I? Men NEVER beat themselves up about doing the same. They sure don’t consider themselves h*ing and I’m not going to either.
When I do get it in early I feel more at ease. No stress about when it’s going to happen, what I should do when, or if I think things will go well in the long run. All relationships are a gamble, weather you wait for sex or don’t. The fact that I go into all relationships with a strong sense of who I am and what I will and won’t do is an asset. And knowing early if his assets match my assets is always a plus in my book.
All this talk about h*-dom has shown me that I think differently about the subject than a lot of women do. Too many women think that sex can be used to keep a man. Or that lack of sex will also keep him from thinking about you a certain way. I personally take pleasure in knowing that I can do it when I want, where I want, and with whom I want to. At the end of the night I’m sleeping soundly.
@Dom
People (and this can mean me in certain instances) love to categorize people and situations, i.e. “I would never do that” or “he/she is a hoe”. When it’s like maybe you wouldn’t do THAT necessarily, but you have done THIS which may be even more fukced up in my eyes.
Most people have done some type of activity that someone else would look at and classify as h*e sh*t. Who cares?!?!
At the end of the day, if you are okay with your actions, then that’s all that matters. Fukc what anyone else thinks. You have to live with you.
@Dom,
The fact that I go into all relationships with a strong sense of who I am and what I will and won’t do is an asset.
That should be a mantra for everybody.
I believe people as a whole have a hard time with things they don’t relate to and/or undertand. Hence, the constant need for categories, groups, and the likes.
All in all, I am just glad to find some like-minded spirits.
@Dom, if you like it, i love it. you can only do so much to determine how people view you. as long as it’s what you want, go for it.
I don’t see sex as a “prize” someone might get. It’s something that happens between people with chemistry and (in my case) some semblance of mutual respect. And it only changes relationships when there’s an expectation that sex = something other than sex.
That said, if STDs didn’t exist, I’d be dropping my panties every chance I got and popping Plan B like they were vitamins – first date or not.
@Mistress Mom, ““That said, if STDs didn’t exist, I’d be dropping my panties every chance I got and popping Plan B like they were vitamins – first date or not.”
But what about your Meat Curtains!?!?!?!?! *sorry for the repost*
@IVR,
Thats such a disgusting term for a vagina.
@Dom, “Thats such a disgusting term for a vagina.”
Meat curtain is a term for a tired vagina that may need to be retired . . . which deserves a disgusting name. Just my opinion.
@IVR,
SMH. Just SMH.
@Dom, I wonder if penis ever gets tired, and needs to be retired? What disgusting name could we call it?
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall….,
I thought about taking it there but I chose to take the mature route and ignore that iggnant urge. It was hard though girl, it was hard Lol!
@IVR, Nah man, “meat curtain” isn’t a term for a retirable vagina. I was a model/teacher for a consulting company that taught 2nd year med students how to give pelvic exams, and my coworkers and I regularly used the term [outside of the classroom], i.e., “You know who has nice meat curtains? Jema. You can always locate all her glands.”
Therefore, “meat curtains” is acceptable professional jargon for any vagina.
@IVR
“Meat Curtains”…….ewwwwwwwwww
What do you mean what about your M.C.?? Do you mean damage from having secks a lot? I hope not that, because even in a committed relationship the “curtains” are being opened on a consistent basis.
@V Renee, “What do you mean what about your M.C.?? Do you mean damage from having secks a lot? I hope not that, because even in a committed relationship the “curtains” are being opened on a consistent basis.”
You know, i dont claim to be an expert on female anatomy (maybe I should look into that) . . . but I’d have to imagine that all that D every day would be bad for the flower . . . make the petals fall off and such . . .
I know in relationships there is a lot of sexing, I’ve been with women who had children also . . . but those flowers looked nothing like the M.C.s I encountered in a Queens strip club a few years ago. That thing looked like it had been stretched out like laffy taffy then beaten with a hammer . . . I just automatically assumed this was from her getting used and abused (even if she was just a grown adult making grown decisions) because I would hate to think someone could grow into that naturally . . . but that could be absolutely incorrect . . what the he!! do I know
Nah… just too easy. Lemme quit.
@IVR, LOL I dunno how much fucking it’d take to get my meat curtains to fall apart, but I doubt I could exceed the limit within my lifetime. I mean, c’mon now, have you seen the pussies on hookers and porn stars? They look pretty damn prime. I’m just sayin’.
Besides, how much fucking could I really be doing? Between, ya know, working 60 hrs a week, raising a fam, general physical maintenance., etc.
@Mistress Mom,
“That said, if STDs didn’t exist, I’d be dropping my panties every chance I got and popping Plan B like they were vitamins – first date or not.”
Just wow.
“That said, if STDs didn’t exist, I’d be dropping my panties every chance I got and popping Plan B like they were vitamins – first date or not.”
Lotta weak dudes in the game messing it up for the rest of us real men.
A chick that wants to drop the drawers on the first date, KNOWS HOW TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.
She isn’t going to make you meet her Mama, Aintee, three cousins, and her girl Wilona @ the job, cause she don’t trust her inner voice. She don’t need a committee to comment on her choices. She has a mind of her own.
How you gonna judge her for getting with the greatness of you? Unless deep down, you know you’re not a good dude, in which case, you need to get right with Jah, Allah, Jesus, JHWH, Buddha, Nietzsche, or Tupac and send me ol girl’s facebook and mathematics.
And when you find out she’s a Jasmine Cashmere in the sack (secretly they all are, all these chicks blabbing about bringing their D- game), don’t be wondering which Lex Steele out there taught her how to do the do. Or how many Byron Longs she had before you.
And let’s keep it real all things being equal, most chicks undercount their exploits, and down play the kind of dirt they’ve done. And you’re tallying up all those encounters you had on a packed subway, cause it looked like she liked it.
In closing,
a) always wrap it up
b) don’t be a hater, be an appreciator
@WestIndianArchie,
She don’t need a committee to comment on her choices. She has a mind of her own.
I agree with this. While I dont necessarily think of that before I do it, I would way that this sums up who I am as a person.
This isnt all of it but I’d say its a factor.
@WestIndianArchie,
This –>you need to get right with Jah, Allah, Jesus, JHWH, Buddha, Nietzsche, or Tupac and send me ol girl’s facebook and mathematics.<— made me spill Hot Ginseng & Ginger Tea all over my keyboard.
WIA, you ain’t right. Lmao!
@WestIndianArchie,
How you gonna judge her for getting with the greatness of you?
My name is TJI and I approve this message!!
I didn’t read the whole post but I think the true test of how men feel about women who give it up on the first date is how they answer the following:
Would you want to find out your daughter was the type of woman who gave it up in the first four hours of knowing a man?
When you put in THAT context, most men will not be pro-first night hits. Why? Cus if it’s not good enough for their daughters, on some level they feel it’s wrong. But if you don’t put it in the context of their daughters, they’ll say those women know what they want, etc. Why? Because when it’s not their daughters, they gain by telling women it’s OK to sleep with men on the first date.
@Hostess,
I dont know if this is a fair question. I know that there’s a ton of stuff I wouldnt want my (future) daughters doing. I am sure the day will come when I wont want them to date period.
The fact of the matter is, I dont think that has any bearing on the respect that men should have for women regardless of sex on the 1st or 20th date. And the respect women should have for themselves regardless.
@Dom,
My point is that if a man says X is ok for women–where he has the opportunity to benefit from the women participating in said activity–but then turns around and says the activity isn’t appropriate for his daughters, then on some level, that man feels something is wrong with the behavior in question.
No man is telling their daughters (and sisters), “It’s ok to screw the first night…He’ll still respect you.” Yet those same men will sit and tell women that hitting on the first night is cool and not an indicator of a woman’s worth. Seems hypocritical to me.
@Hostess,
No man wants to know that his daughter owns a vagina for anything other than peeing. None.
And I know. Mine has 4 of those. So, yeah, that question is a bit out of context.
@Hostess, “Would you want to find out your daughter was the type of woman who gave it up in the first four hours of knowing a man?”
I dont know about this, because if I look at it from my current view . . . do the daddies of the women i see now (well maybe not now .. . but early college days) know that their daughter is getting it on in the rotunda? Also, a common theme I saw in college were the ones who’s parents repressed them with the opposite sex .. .as far as no dudes coming to the house . . no boyfriends. . . those were the ones turning into the biggest h*es . . . all I can do is try to teach my daughter the stuff I had to learn on my own and hope that she makes the right decisions. (After praying I didn’t have a female child didn’t work out)
@IVR, I think you all are missing my point.
If I think buying purses from the booster who comes to my salon is alright, how can I turn around and say stealing is wrong? Stealing is perfectly alright when I’m benefiting from it but when I’m not, it’s wrong.
Bottom line: If sleeping around the FIRST night isn’t good enough for a man’s daughters, on some level, he thinks it’s wrong for a woman to do it–even when he is on the receiving end. He’ll take it but he’ll want his daughters to ‘do better’.
@Hostess
Ummm daddies don’t want their daughters to do ANYTHING (kissing, hugging, holding hands let alone s.e.x) whether it’s the 1st date or 100th date.
@V Renee, I don’t know about that. I have had many men (father, dad, step-dad, brother, friends) say to wait as long as possible and only do IT in a relationship. Granted that was after they kinda weakly accepted that I’d have sex. BUT at no point, under any circumstances, would any of them, say it was OK for me to have sex on the first night of meeting someone. None of it’s ‘OK’. However, the worse possible circumstance is for their daughter, sister, friend, to be the neighborhood door-knob. Under no imaginable circumstance would that be cool.
@IVR,
damn straight….woe to the punk that steps up to babypinette!
this comment is coming from some one who is often considered a prude and doesn’t enter into casual sexual relationship (and therefore gets “it” on and off) but…
i’ve read a lot of the comments on here and its apparent that the VSS’s place different values on their vadges and that the VSBs value different vadges… well… differently.
but bottom line is most ppl (XX and XY alike) consider themselves taking a high risk by “smashing” on the 1st night.
most of the men will DEF hit it, but there seems to be an overwhelming majority that aren’t expecting anything more afterwards (except perhaps to smash again). and there have been rare occasions when the 1st-night-smashee was “cool” enough to date afterwards. but there are few success stories presented here today.
now, there’s certainly more of a mixed response from the ladies about how/why/when they’d give up the goods and whether or not the 1st night is appropriate. and to each her own–do you, girl. i’m not going to negatively label women getting down on the 1st night. that’s something she has to be at peace with.
but that being said, i think ppl who jump in the sack without knowing much about their partner, or taking the time to evaluate the situation is risky and questionable. the most obvious repercussions are babies outta wedlock and STDS/HIV. but more than that, if you’re just going to sleep with some one based on an immediate “connection”, you’re just acting out of animal instinct at that point. and what good is being a human if you aren’t going to take advantage of your high cognitive abilities and executive function to control and inhibit behavior without properly assessing all consequences (good, bad, and ugly)?? and hell, if you regret it later and charge it to being a bad mistake (blame it on the goose, gotcha feeling loose) that’s even worse.
i’m not saying sleeping around without regard is a bad thing, i just think it’s an animalistic thing. and for women, i don’t think it’s empowering or liberating to be a 1st-night-smasher. becuz being ill-informed and/or lacking inhibition is just that–poor judgement, or lack their of. that doesn’t make you a ho, but that doesn’t automatically make it NOT ho sh*t either…
so i say all that to say– proceed with caution. enter at your own risk. wear proper gear before entering. and so on…
** This message has been approved by the Dustmites of VSB.com, where our motto is “Ho Sh*t Declined in 09″ **
DUSTMITES UNITE!!!
@8th Wonder,
Another dustie approves…lol
@Gem of the Ocean,
*throws dustmite approved pt-gold stars at gem*
@Gem of the Ocean,
but there are few success stories presented here today.
I don’t know. That’s not necessarily the reading I gathered.
I got engaged in October of 2008, and we are getting married next year. I slept with the man I am marrying on our “first” date… which happened a mere 72 hours after we first laid eyes on each other.
The vibe was right… The connection real. It might be dubbed “animalistic” but instincts are why animals survive in the jungle… So we may learn a couple of things from them.
My best friend is a 29 year-old virgin and I wholeheartedly encourage her to wait until she’s ready.
It really is a matter of personal choice at the end of day.
My only gripe is the judgement that goes back and forth between who does it and who doesn’t, and most importantly the reasons behind WHY those things are not being done.
Like my daddy used to say, “if that gentleman you’re dating asks you to jump from a 7th floor building to prove that you’re not a ho, would you do it?”
Well, my daddy was talking about friends influence mostly, but you get my drift.
i never said you can’t fall in love or have a successful relationship after a 1st-night “smash”. the fact that it worked out for you (and a couple others) is great. congrats on your engagement!!
but just becuz it worked out doesn’t mean you weren’t succumbing to your desires rather than relying on your reason, amongst other things. and my post isn’t to judge or call ppl names. becuz quite frankly i’m nobody ho po po–i dont care who ppl do when they do them and why. any woman outside my closest friends and family circle is of little concern to me unless they ask for my opinion/advice.
i am simply saying we should call a spade a spade. women who engage in ho-like activity (regardless of how we individually wanna define it) are just that. period. you (global sense ‘of “you”) can be mad and/or defensive and try and justify it, but it doesn’t change that the behavior. or the eyebrows that might be raised. like everybody else, you gotta own your sh*t. and if it’s ho sh*t, you get a complimentary beeper and bottle of glitter. i know i’m really beating the dead horse of E.Badu but hell, it is what it is.
and not all animals survive in the wild. many aren’t meant to live for long. and many female animals are equipped with the ability to reabsorb a fetus (aka self-induced abortion). but that doesn’t mean a whole lot in the grand scheme of anything relating to human beings.
@Gem of the Ocean, and what good is being a human if you aren’t going to take advantage of your high cognitive abilities and executive function to control and inhibit behavior without properly assessing all consequences (good, bad, and ugly)?? and hell, if you regret it later and charge it to being a bad mistake (blame it on the goose, gotcha feeling loose) that’s even worse. ”
you know how i feel about dustmites, allegra d weaves a tangled web but..HOLLA!
*hajj*
but does it weave a tangled cob web?? of the dusty persuasion??
@Gem of the Ocean,
A couple of things:
1. Yes, first night sex is taking a high risk. Hate to bust your bubble but ALL SEX is high risk physically. I don’t give a dam* if it’s the first or the 50th time. You should still use a condom until you and your partner get tested.
The fact that this is constantly mentioned as the biggest draw-back has me wondering who the hell is getting hit raw in 2009? Like, do you think just because he’s been dating you for xxx month and you finally have sex that its safe? If so, I blame that train of thought for the high STD rate just as much as I blame first-nighters with no condoms. Get ya ish together!
2. I would like to add a few more success stories to the group today. I had sex either on the first official date/ very early in a few instances. It has turned into great dates afterwards, long conversations, QT willingly spent on both ends without having sex, and a few people that I have a stronger connection to than people I have know for years. We still talk, we still email, still chill, and its still all love when I see them. Most times, after sex on the first date there is just more…dating. And yes, more sex too thank goodness. Its really not that difficult.
3. I know plenty of women who get down early and often who would never consider doing some of the crazy stuff so called “prudes” do. In the end, your emotions will get the best of you or you feel like you’ve invested so much time that you’re willing to put up with more unfavorable circumstances AFTER sex than a woman who knew what she was getting in to.
4. Poor judgment is relative. I consider having the ability to quickly sum up a situation a skill. If it takes you months and months to figure out if you want to do it then your judgement might be a bit screwed IMHO.
5. The problem I have with a lot of your comments in particular and this general thought pattern of “keep it sewed up so he respects me” is that you’re putting SO much of your worth in the hands of men.
HE gets to want sex on the first night. HE gets to decide if HE calls her back. HE gets to decide if she was cool enough to smash on a reg or if she’s wifey material. HE gets to decide if he respects her.
Honestly, the whole thing smacks of a woman seeking her self worth through the eyes of men. I thought we were stronger than that. Where are the women who define themselves and don’t need a man to do it for them?
1. who said anything about having unprotected sex???? WHAT THEY SAID?? *looking around* no, that wasn’t me. cuz that ain’t diva!!
2. i don’t care about number of success stories. but i’m glad things worked out for you.
3. not really sure what your point is so i can’t really address it. but if you’re saying just becuz you get down on the 1st night you’re not a ho then… i never said that was the case. so i still am “idk/idc” on that.
4. poor judgment is NOT relative. but i can understand ppl using that to justify the poor decisions they make. if you see a bear in the woods and you make a quick decision to run zig zagged through the trees, thats not skill, that’s your brain/body making you NOT get mauled. you don’t REALLY know some one in less than a day. you can make a judgment on the type of person they are, sure, but you don’t really know them. does that mean you can’t sleep with them or that it’s bad?? no. it just means you’re sleeping with a stranger. that’s all.
5. once again i am looking around but do not see where you are getting this from. i never said anything about keeping anything sewn up so some one respects you/me/whoever. NOT giving it up doesn’t equate respect. i don’t believe that nor have i EVER said it. MY personal behavior and attitude towards it is for ME to get to know some one and decide to have sexual intimacies within the confines of a relationship as it’s comfortable to/for ME. men show their respect for women in how they act, not in whether or not they’re occupying her vaginal canal.
i have only given my PERSONAL opinions on these things. i wish women would have more respect for themselves and no toss their goodies away just cuz they have an itch they want scratched by some stranger. but at the same time, i’m not so concerned that i’m preaching the anti-ho gospel to every girl i see doin ho sh*t. that’s HER business. whether or not i think it’s ho sh*t is MY business. period.
@Dom,
awesome
@Gem of the Ocean aka Senorita San Diego,
*stands and claps*
BRAVISSIMO!
I’m just not trying to play russion roulette with my honey jar.
Is that so wrong?
@8th Wonder, nope
@8th Wonder,
It’s not wrong. AT ALL.
What’s wrong is telling 7th Wonder over there that she is a hoe because she willingly recognizes that life in itself is Russian Roulette.
So yeah, there is nothing wrong with your own personal decisions. There is everything wrong with applying your psyche and ways of seeing the world to another human being.
That’s all.
There is everything wrong with applying your psyche and ways of seeing the world to another human being.
i don’t think this is wrong. the only way we learn and grow is by understanding why other ppl do what they do, esp given similar circumstances and environment. some times we learn best from other ppl’s mistakes, experiences, life stories. and sometimes it just affirms our own values, beliefs, practices.
despite and becuz of ppl judging me, calling me names, psychoanalyzing my every move is what helped me be the woman i am today.
I was already chuckling at “7th Wonder”, lol.
Can you explain this part to me? “What’s wrong is telling 7th Wonder over there that she is a hoe because she willingly recognizes that life in itself is Russian Roulette.”
And I’m not being an asshole. Like, if you know LIFE is russian roulette in itself, why up the ante by engaging in sexual acts with someone that you don’t know? I know condoms are used and such, but sometimes, that layer of latex just isn’t enough.
And I hope my two sentence post didn’t make me come across as judgemental, because honestly, I don’t care. I personally think that the Dustmites and the Hoe-ever-do-you-want-me’s should hold hands and sing kumbaya, or possibly share a 10-piece mcnugget meal.
Everything ain’t for everybody!
ummmm nope. sorry. not sharin my 10pc with anybody. well, maybe the roo, the zoo, and you (aif), but that’s where i draw the line. esp if you ho’in, you damn sure can go ho yo tail your own 10pc. betta put them 3 orifices (maybe 5 with some rolls on the side) to use!
@Gem of the Ocean,
“betta put them 3 orifices (maybe 5 with some rolls on the side) to use!”
for this IGnant mess, you are summarily being sent to the Corner.
(see, I justified it, so you have little legal recourse, unlike the other time.)
but i’m already satting down in the corner. do i have leave and then stomp back in??
@Gem of the Ocean,
my bad, thought you were out on parole or somethin. Okay, just turning you around and satting you back down on GP.
*pats you on the head and hands you a slice of pound cake with strawberries as an apology*
@blackberry molasses, lol@little legal recourse. sarcastically counting ho orifices was justification enough.
@SouthernGirl & BBMo,
hardy har har, ho-dy ho ho. *evil eye*
aw Gemmie, you know you love us. Now “Eat the Cake, Gemmie-Mae!”
lol@ the cake! she know she lurve us.
NOT gemmie-mae!!!!!!!!!!
*leaves death note* my only regret is that i didn’t get to try my ho sh*t out. please sprinkle some glitter on my coffin and tell my etwin to carry out my last ho wishes…
@ Gem of the Ocean, sigh…i have little choice but to get my freak on with every morris, boris and thelonius out there.
don’t forget idris!!!
@8th Wonder,
No, you didn’t come across as judgemental AT ALL. I think you’re actually one of the few people I’ve read that has made their point across by not judging anybody else, and focusing on it being a personal decision. And I totally agree with. You are doing it because it suits you and not because you believe it will prop you up on some mythical pedestal by the man in question.
The “you” in that sentence was a general “you”.
To explain that tidbit about “Life being Russian Roulette”, I thought you meant it as being in danger of having your heart broken or kissing a frog, that sort of things.
And I was trying to say that the amount of time one waits before having sex does not prevent from heartbreaks and frogs (which has somewhat been a theme today).
Bottom line is stepping out of your house in the morning is playing Russian Roulette. Some choose to go full throttle with it (like 7th wonder), and others decide to reduce the risks (like our very own 8th wonder).
Diff’rent strokes for diff’rent folks is all.
“To explain that tidbit about “Life being Russian Roulette”, I thought you meant it as being in danger of having your heart broken or kissing a frog, that sort of things.”
Oh girl, naw, lol.
Now the woman who thinks she can prevent THAT simply by waiting a lil longer to do the do….needs a hug and a reality check, stat.
@8th Wonder,
Not at all sis. You already know we’re on the same page…lol
girl no. my oyster’s pearl is quite precious. a vet my partners before giving them the green light.
@8th Wonder,
There is nothing wrong with that at all…especially if you’re a serial dater. You probaly shouldn’t have sex on the first date with every guy you meet on e-harmony. However, if one of those guys is someone you really click with and you both want to have sex, as a grown, you can, and you should not feel bad about yourself after
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall…., i meant to say, as a grown, adult woman capable of making those decisons, and understanding any consequneces that may or may not come from them, then you can have sex, and you should not feel bad about yourself in the morning.
bein my usual molassesassself…..
ain’t many open gates i stuck around with for long…..
sometimes keepin the draws up is worth it
i shall never be a first poster…i’m a conductor!
ain’t many open gates i stuck around with for long…..
and anotha one….
@Gem of the Ocean,
Yep…
@miss t-lee,
And that makes how many? Two?
well if i add these to all the non vsb-visitors i know, i wouldn’t be able to calculate the number. sorry.
@Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.,
I’m not sure…I wasn’t really keeping count…I thought it was 3.
I could take an informal poll around the office too, but I’m a bit busy.
@KingPine,
I’m curious, were these “open gates” interested in sticking around with you? Were they trying to use sex to get a relationship, or were they just having sex?
@N.I.A. happyhumpdayyall….,
Most of them were down just to get busy…and to be honest I wasn’t really tryin to *divine* their intent.
I was young…and tail was poppin left right and center.
That was when I learned some women were just as shallow as some men….
When I decided to get married…..i kept it tied to my leg. Good skins can mess a mind up….
Apologies for bein late but it is *cold* up here
@KingPine, how the f*** do we posed to keep the peace?!
@overit,
lol man…i talk light…and step heavy
@KingPine, do you carry a big stick too?
@overit,
lol yall will get me a pink slip!!
I am so over the who, what, when, where, why and especially HOW of howedom. A howe is a howe is a cotdamn ho! There IS such a thing as howedom, but if you are ready to deal with the possible consequences, whatever.
The only howe I will not tolerate is a tragic howe. Own your howedom, work that updo! (lol, if someone gets that, you will win a prize)
@overit,
But why do people even care if s/he’s a hoe or not? Why does it matter to people who are not them, whether s/he owns it or not?
That’s the heart of the question I think.
@Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase., me personally, i want for my fellow women what i want for myself, but mainly, a lot of men are PREDATORS! they don’t give a damn about a women just her vadge! some women can accept that reality and get theirs, but others end up f**ed up, that makes me sad.
That is the heart of my appointment as head of ho-meland security. i care about people, and i hate seeing women end up broken. plus, i for some reason attract a lot of tragic howes…
i never trip off the ones who do what they do and have no regrets.
keep ho-pe alive!
That is the heart of my appointment as head of ho-meland security.
“suhhhcurriteeeeeee!! suh-curity!! complicated ho-der!!”
just let em have a coke. and a box of condoms.
@overit, dead @tragic howes….are they related to the tragic mulatto? …..no?
@SouthernGirl, well yes and no. imagine a family tree, but more like a tragic tree. two branches below the tragic mulatto is the tragic howe. kinda related, but not really. they do kick it at the tragic reunion erry summer though.
lets just hope they never combine. a tragic mulatto ho?!?! ohhhhhh NOOOOOO. the tragedy of a mulatto ho life is living itself. *smh* sadness
@Gem of the Ocean, you trying to get me fired today, huh?
yes, firing you was my sole purpose today. *checking you off list* 1 down….
lol
work that updo! (lol, if someone gets that, you will win a prize)
mad tv “can i get your number”!!!!!!! lmao
where my prize at, un-ho?? or is it non-ho?? maybe no-ho?? or ho po po?? perhaps wanna-be-closeted-ho?? or jealous-of-ho-sh*t-typa-ho?? could it be not-gonna-ho-no-mo-ho?? i give up…
@Gem of the Ocean, ding, ding, ding! we have a winner…next time u in dc, mickey dees PLUS a dessert (from mickey dees) on me. you’re welcome!
*long exasperated sigh*
(alleged) Ho sh*t again, huh?
Jamboree of judgment
Fandango of finger-pointing
Sing-a-long of saints
Bonfire of blame
Party of perfection
Dancer-ree of Do-gooders
How about we have a Melee’ of MindYo’OwnBidness?
For the record, I like what Deviant said.
@PBG,
That was an hilarious comment right there.
LOL like ppl come to vsb to mind their own biznass?!?! not only do VSBers NOT mind their own biznass, they tell their biznass too for others to mind. thats why there’s many ppl putting off work, fighting boredom, and vampiring til all hours of the night is to be up in or stirring their own kool-aid. or in today’s topic ho-aid (which actually could have a whole host of other unattractive meanings but anyway).
but to answer your question: yes, ho sh*t again. SURPRISE!! happy 2009, where talm bout ho sh*t is always in the subject line
@Gem of the Ocean, lol @ stirring their own kool-aid, what do you have against howes from jamestown?!
lol i dont have a problem with hoes from any town. i would advice them to keep up sanitation codes downtown. may run into an “ex” that’s visited her “town” and i don’t need her problems, ya dig??
@Gem of the Ocean,
Gemmie, my FAVORITE-est VSB Resident Get-it-Straight-er.
I can just see your excited utterances in the words you type.
I meant “mind yo’ bidness” in the general, everyday way of “why do you give a fluck” type way about ho’s and ho sh*t and all the hows, whys and whatnots concerning it. This subject has no validity farther than simply something to talk about. Talk about it we do. A lot.
Don’t mind me. I bore easily.
LMAO @ VSB Resident Get-it-Straight-er. that’s cute, i likey!!
i feel you though. i looked at today’s topic like “whaaaaat?? huh?? didn’t we do this just 2 weeks ago??” so i’m with you on that. i just felt the need to make chatter about minding biznasses and put the term “ho-aid” out there.
don’t mind me. i rant at random. *e hug*
@Gem of the Ocean, as much as i hate this topic, ho-terminlogy and etymology is fascinating!
i think we should have a vsb glossary of howe terminology and phrases, i nominate “hoe-ever do you want me” as today’s winner.
just cuz you are an officer for ho-meland suhhcurrity don’t mean you can be pickin and choosing what ho-minology gets to be today’s winner.
and just for tryna be a boss (where YO boss at!?!) you get the “ho sit down” basket. thank you have a nice day.
@Gem of the Ocean, so am i a ho or jealous of howes?! i need answers!!!!
and u are ho-outtta (complicated) order!
it’d look better as “you are outta complicated ho-rder”
@Gem of the Ocean, whatever clarifying claire!
@Gem of the Ocean,
OOO! you said “talm bout”. can i put your face on a t-shirt? you’re my hero!
Hey everyone…I’m a lurker I never comment but decided to this time. To each his/her own I guess. I just think it’s better to wait don’t give it up on the first date and wait quite some time. It’s too dangerous out there. People should get to know one another better, but sadly many forget that and give in. Everyone is into instant gratification. Maybe I’m old soul for 29 but that’s how I see it.
@blackbtrfly,
Welcome and sh*t
@eff yo couch,
WOW! Eff got here beofre the welcome committee? We slippin people!!!!
How did you get here so fast with your IG self hanging out at your permanent residence (The Corner)?
@blackbtrfly,
Welcome!!!!
**Diva Dust v. 2.0 ™**
@eff yo couch, i’m saying! did you hack into the Sparkly Sistas welcome alert system?!?!?
@blackbtrfly,
welcome!!! *pt-gold stars*
@blackbtrfly,
welcome
and
peace
@KingPine, and shalom and salam.
bienvenido
Thanks
“Hoes” aren’t going anywhere. They’re here to stay. They’ve been around since the beginning of time. Hoeing is one of the oldest professions in the world. We need them so let them be.
Besides “hoes” make others feel good about themselves. Not only are they breaking people off but they are spreading happy feelings all over the world.
Now pat yourself on the back.
hoes do make others feel good about themselves. i’m thinking of taking up a ho-prenticeship. learn some tricks and the ho-trade and put this scrapbooking glitter to good use. maybe ho shatting needs to go down for me to see Moses, Mary mother of Jesus, Joseph, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego– all dem!!
now if you don’t mind, i’m going to find a quiet place to stretch itout and work on some hoerobics…
@Gem of the Ocean, don’t forget Guadalupe!
i don’t wanna see her!!! she already sittin up in my mama garden in all kinds of bright colors– seen her enough this holiday break as it were…
@Gem of the Ocean, OMG dead, dead and dead @ the imagery…and of course in the garden i saw in my mind’s eye, there were random gnomes.
lmao well to explain: me and my bro bought this Guadalupe statue for my mom’s garden. why?? cuz she’s mexican and mexicans love them some Gwady (even tho my mom isn’t catholic anymore lol). and so she’s guarding the garden i guess. a gardian, if you will lol.
she also has a St. Francis (?) statue to. but he’s just white marble. no color. you know mexis LOVE some color too.
@Gem of the Ocean
Do u!
Sounds like fun. Or something.
This need to be in a series with:
The V-test post
The Eb post
Was there a good girl post? There needs to be one.
The things we learn.
Good Girls go to Heaven. Bad Girls go Everywhere
I’m a self proclaimed prude. Most men tell me they’ve never worked this hard to get it. My response, get it from where you’ve been getting it from. Duh I don’t give it up on the first date ’cause I still got old faithful in the cut to fulfill my womanly needs while I get to know you. Everybody always keeps that one pair of shoes that’s broke in and comes in handy when you gotta bust a quick move!!
Wow… the comments have been so juicy today!!! I love it. Sorry i missed out. My .02….
— I think there are definitely more cons than there are pros to having one night stands. I definitely think it’s better to get to know a person before opening your body to them… eh..this is something i feel like i’ve learned from experience… I wouldn’t judge or label a woman who made this choice though. It’s just a road i have traveled and I would share my experience with her…
Hey guys, I’m late but Happy New Year, and this was a bangin’ good post. Thanks for the laughs.
~ Kit