kobe and me: why we root for people to fail

from his tendency to pout and throw visible temper tantrums to the fact that i think he’s legitimately certifiable (regardless of whether you think he should have been convicted of rape, you have to admit it’s nucking futs to try to have raw anal sex with someone you’ve never even met before), i have many good reasons to not be a big fan of kobe bryant.

this fact by itself isn’t ground-breaking. there are many people, from certain neighbors and baristas to r. kelly fans and people who act like they’re from harlem¹, that i’m not particularly fond of. this doesn’t necessarily mean that i dislike them; i just regard them with a bit of a “we don’t really need to share the same space” apathy. basically, i’d (probably) call for help if i witnessed them being mugged, but i’d also (probably) lie if the police asked me to provide a description of the mugger.

what makes my feelings for kobe notable is the fact that i actively root for him to fail. when i watch the lakers play, i want him to freeze out his teammates and inspire 5,000 “when will kobe finally get it?” articles the next day. i want whoever he’s guarding to score on him. i want him to force phil jackson to make phil jackson faces, and i want him to give charles barkley acid reflux. i want them to beat phoenix, just because i know that a loss to the celtics in the finals would be more devastating.

don’t get me wrong. this isn’t an iago/othello or stringer/omar level of distaste. i won’t lose any sleep if the lakers win the title, and i don’t wish any non-basketball adversity on kobe.

usually feelings like this are dismissed as “hating”, but there’s nothing about kobe that makes him more enviable than a hundred other millionaire superstar athletes. i think kobe’s status and success is well-deserved and appropriate. i just don’t want him to succeed on the basketball court.

this type of personal animus isn’t uncommon. the hundreds of thousands of blogs, articles, facebook status messages, and tweets clowning lebron james in the past two weeks proves that. in fact, i’d wager that everyone reading this has a person in mind whose failure would make the sun shine a little bit brighter that day.

what i’ve been trying to understand is why? what makes us derive happiness from the pain of others, even if their success (or lack thereof) has no real bearing on us or our lives?

the easy reason is that it makes you feel better about yourself, but i think it goes a bit deeper than that.

a) you perceive them to be in direct competition with someone you support

this actually gives a valid explanation for my feelings about kobe. for the past three years or so he’s been locked in a mythical death match with lebron james for the “best baller on earth” title. and, as a lebron james fan, any success kobe has is a mark against lebron’s candidacy. if he “wins”, the person i’ve been supporting “loses”, and i’ve come to realize that my particular form of kobeanimus stems from me just not wanting to be wrong².

b) they represent something you despise

a great recent example of this theory in action is the 2007 kanye west/50 cent soundscan battle. if you recall, 50 challenged kanye to a “who will sell the most records the first week” contest, and even stated that he’d retire from the rap game if he lost.

now, i don’t dislike 50 cent’s music. i actually think that “what up gangsta” is the best album intro song in hip-hop history, and i can honestly say that i’m convinced that 50 would be cooler in person than kanye.

but, the fact that i despise what the idea of 50 cent represents made me root for his spectacular failure. it wasn’t enough for kanye to win; i wanted 50 to be humbled and embarrassed.

c) you don’t actually dislike them that much. you just root against them because you hate the type of people who blindly support them

***anyone who’s ever been forced to converse with any laker, yankee, or cowboy fans, beyonce stans, members of the pandering patchouli and incense crowd, tea baggers, and anyone who’s ever defended a bush is nodding their heads in silent agreement***

d) they’re asking for it

admittedly, i can understand why so many people seemed to be so happy about lebron’s recent playoff mishaps. if you allow yourself to be referred to as “the king“, you leave yourself open for criticism.

e) they actually were in direct competition with you….a long, long time ago

this sounds like its too silly to actually be true…until you remember than you can probably name at least five or six people in your address book who still hold serious grudges with people over not being voted the junior homecoming queen in 1999.

anyway, people of vsb.com: can you add any more insight? why do you think we root for others to fail, even if that other might not even know that we exist? also, can you name anyone who inspires this type of feeling in you?

we’re all fam and sh*t. don’t be scurred

¹this doesn’t mean that i dislike people from harlem, just people who act “harlem”. in fact, you don’t even have to be from harlem to act harlem. this makes perfect sense to me, so i really don’t care if it makes sense to you.
²i’ve also come to realize that this idiotic kobeanimus makes me sound like a 14 year white kid from poughkeepsie, new york, and i’m trying to make amends to rectify it.

—the champ

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369 thoughts on “kobe and me: why we root for people to fail

  1. uh oh. Here come the haters. I only root for success… well maybe unless they are straight up villains and have played people, not just to get to the top but for the hell of it. Okay I said it. Triflin arse cowardly people: FAIL, die, FAIL! That is all.

    • One more thing: Sara Palin! Fail bish! FAIL! She needs to sit her hoe ass down and be a granny instead of grabbing every bit of publicity she can. I really do hate Sara Palin. No success for her.

      • My inner hater won’t quit tonight. Sorry yall. Let’s add Jesse James(Sandra Bullock’s ex husband. What a loser) and Arizona to my list. Don’t be puttin down the Brown people! Arizona’s gov suck big whale balls. They’re number one on that list right now.

    • @MzAnon

      LOL!! I’m with Champ. How do you go from providing warnings to all that haters are approaching to: FAIL, die, FAIL???!!!!! LMAO!!!!!

      • @ CNotes: LOL I know I was wrong for that. I typed as I was thinking and went on emotion. The hater approach is what I felt, at first. Like The Champ said, I couldn’t control myself. My inner deep hater definitely came out. LOL

  2. @The Champ,
    I am a Laker fan, I am a Kobe fan, so of course I blindly love and support Kobe Bryant and the Los Angeles Lakers, no funny business. I appreciate you explaining your previously unexplained hate of Kobe Bryant. I agree with a lot of your reasoning, some of them are the very same reasons I dislike Lebron, Shaq, Phil Mickelson, and various others.
    P.S.- Lakers are about to win this championship.

    • @knightnick I know some women who are still mad about his affair so they hate the mention of his name LOL. Sad and stupid. On the flip side, I know some hard core Kobe fans so they ain’t goin nowhwere. He always has support. I should add that in the post I can relate to the Kanye/50 record sells competition (wanting Kanye to win which he did, and for the same reasons) but Champ c’mon does that really count? That was all in fun. Even though 50 came out as the loser and was the one talkin all that sh*t, his album was a success (only in numbers not music but still)

      • “I know some women who are still mad about his affair so they hate the mention of his name LOL. ”

        ^Yup. It kills me because the same folks that dislike this about Kobe love Shaq and Shaq done rant (yes, rant) through hella broads. He rant through Supahead and brought that taint to his wife and kids. Then he on tape freestylin’ asking Kobe “How does my a** taste”? Well, Shaq how does half the groupie population taste?… cause you done sampled it.

        • ^Yup. It kills me because the same folks that dislike this about Kobe love Shaq and Shaq done rant (yes, rant) through hella broads. He rant through Supahead and brought that taint to his wife and kids. Then he on tape freestylin’ asking Kobe “How does my a** taste”? Well, Shaq how does half the groupie population taste?… cause you done sampled it”

          this is very true. i think what does kobe in is the fact that he just doesn’t seem like a guy you’d actually want to be around. his “unlikeability” has always turned people off, even before he became a superstar.

          whats funny about that is the fact that he might actually be a good dude in person. but, in this case, perception matters.

          • Yep. I’m not even into basketball but I remember when he was a rookie and people loved to hate him from the jump calling him a ball hog and what not. But he still had his following too and only grabbed up more even with the stupid sh*t that he’s done and said along the way. I don’t know what kind of force he has on these people, or maybe I should stop to actually watch the game to try to understand it. idk

  3. I’m a grown ass Black woman from Poughkeepsie, NY and um, yeah. LOL.
    Sometimes it’s theraputic to “hate.” I pray for the failure of Dook’s Coach K daily (nah sike, I don’t pray. but if I did, that’s what’d I’d ask for). While I respected his game, I can’t tell you how many times I wished a tragic accident would befall JJ Reddick. I’m a Tar Heel… it’s the rule.

  4. *sigh*

    I deal with this on a daily basis.

    My boyfriend blindly STANS for any and EVERY LA team… he knows every trade… every locker room argument… everything…

    if you didnt know me youd think i was a stan too bc im starting to BREATHE random facts just from being around him :(

    problem is… I HATE [HO]BE and the [F]AKERS ….. and his undying love for them makes me hate them MORE…

    kinda makes me question his judgement and very existence sometimes.. but hey.. he DID choose me so he cant be all bad ;)

    b*tchassness personified.

    • Maybe you should question yourself since you are dating him, such an avid kobe lover. maybe deep down you want to be a winner, Kobe’s a winner, your boyfriend is a winner.

      • mighty presumptuous to assume im not already a winner?

        and why would i want a winner with paltry morals? the only place kobe has any sort of charisma/talent/intrigue is on the court (as evidenced by the FAIL of a photoshoot and his brief *thank GOD* acting stint on Moesha lmao)

        ill pass on the one dimensional negro. thx though.

    • I dislike Kobe now and have never liked him. Everything he does is an imitation of Michael Jordan. His walk, his shooting motion and his celebrations after a shot or a game. Get off of Mike’s nuts and be original! You know, like that James kid from Akron

      No Bullsh*t

    • Jess-definitely knows best-,

      I live this situation daily… and I am appalled at how an otherwise very intelligent and decent man like him can actually support Kobe and root for the Lakers? It makes my heart bleed… but what can you do?

      Of course the matchup OKC- Lakers was hilarious around these here parts. :lol: I think I might have shed a tear when Durant fell on the ground at the end of the last game… Le sigh

  5. I know folks might be mad about this but:

    GO LAKERS!!!!

    ^That isn’t blind support. That is from being a fan since I was 10 years old and even rooting for them when Sam Perkins and Elgin Campbell played for them. Plus, I was raised in the City of Angels.

    Back to the post, I can admit I have done this. Most times I am a champion of the underdog, sometimes not. I know in rap battles I was for Moe Dee over LL, well anybody over LL (even Canibus). I thought LL was cocky and an arse and I didn’t like how he did LeShaun (Doin It song). I didn’t like how he be frontin’ like he 37… o_O Plus, although he always kept in shape, me thinks he been on the growth hormone or something. His face look different. The licking of the lips is on purpose and contrived and there are other dudes who got body and can get it before he. However, I always respected a good deal of what he brought to hip hop. He has a heck of a catalog. I like LL when it’s all said and done. I like him in his most human and vulnerable moments. I am glad he is still around. Some folks I root against after a period of time, I’m cool with em’ later on. We done been through too much (fugratively) and you got staying power where you grew on me or I can atleast respect your tenacity. Yeah, this post is truth.

    • Just to clarify: “Yeah, this post is truth.” is referencing Champ’s post, not my comment. Also, I don’t root for anyone to fail, but I deifnitely root for the other side to succeed.

    • “Most times I am a champion of the underdog, sometimes not.”

      you know, ive found that i usually root against the underdog. i’m not a fan of “upsets”, unless its the steelers that are doing the upsetting

    • @legitimate_soul

      I remember the LL/Canibus battles. I was for LL because although he is cocky, he’s a likeable person (I sometimes get tired of rappers who don’t want to seem human; and LL seemed like if you met him, he would give you a hug). I knew he wasn’t as vicious and Can-I-Bus, but I wanted him to be able to back his ish up sooo badly because of all of his GOAT talk. (His over the top lip-licking is annoying and unneccessary though).

      • @ CNotes,

        “2nd Round Knock Out” and the battle between LL and Canibus was entertaining. But then it seemed like Canibus was falling out with everyone…even folks who were on his team.

  6. @ The Champ….

    quite a timely post as this championship may be the first major test of my relationship…. how do i balance being a supportive GF and avid kobe/laker NONfan?

    • @JessKnowsBest, please don’t fight over Kobe with your boyfriend. He don’t care about yall! LOL.

    • “quite a timely post as this championship may be the first major test of my relationship…. how do i balance being a supportive GF and avid kobe/laker NONfan?”

      give him brain while rocking a rondo jersey

  7. Get out of my head! Seriously, I was just chastising myself because I was felling all SCHADENFREUDE (I nominate this as the VSB word-of-the-day) about a particular person. I know it is wrong, but I don’t care.

    • Seriously, I was just chastising myself because I was felling all SCHADENFREUDE (I nominate this as the VSB word-of-the-day) about a particular person

      damn. i’m mad i didnt think of this word as a title

    • I was feeling Schadenfreude (excellent pick!) about someone as well… for the longest… and the person seemed so sweet, I felt bad deep down… until recent developments proved beyond doubt what a stupid arsehole the person truly is… I have not felt a bit bad about all feelings of FAIL afterwards…

      Like legitimate said, your spirit knows before your conscious… Enjoy your schadenfreude (ha!) moments. :lol:

    • @meka LOL I actually felt bad for Tiger. That apology was even more pififul. He’s so stupid smh, it’s actually a shame. I admit I love that his wife did the hood chick move and busted his windows out. That’s the least she could have done after 15 women *shudders* ew.

    • “I’ll admit that I’ve so enjoyed Tiger Woods fall from grace.”
      cosign. (almost hoping Elgin gets her $750 mil) not really, but kinda.

    • Oh I thoroughly enjoyed the Tiger Woods fiasco…lol I hope Elin get the 750m, w/o the gag order though, because I’d love to hear her side.

    • I feel you on that, I smiled everytime n*gro was humiliated am evil, but I think I hate his wife even more acting all “innocent” those two idiots deserve each other by innocent I mean pretty dumb..

    • It made me be a bigger TW fan. He took a two hour taco bell sh*t on that 2520. I always thought she was a golddigger. Now I’m sure.

      Ain’t no way she didn’t know and approve of some of his recreational activities.

      No Bullsh*t

    • Oh goodie! I thought I was the only one secretly enjoying his demise. I never liked the guy, I think he’s a sellout, and I too don’t care…

    • Tom Brady…..Tim Tebow…..Brett Farve…..The State of New Jersey…I hate them all, and for the same reason! It’s not the people that I actually hate, it’s the “hype” and chatter surrounding them that I hate. I feel like Brady is a bonafide butthole, diva douchebag on the field. He acts like he can’t get hit. And the game IS all about avoiding the hit, but it’s also about how one reacts when they are hit. He’s about as girly as they come in that sense.

      The hype that surrounds some star athletes and the stupid bandwagon folks who love to love those on top make me hate those on top (in their respective positions in their career, not in life.)

  8. Let’s go down the list:

    “a) you perceive them to be in direct competition with someone you support”

    Alexander Ovechkin, ignoring that the two play different positions and have entirely different responsibilities on the ice.

    “b) they represent something you despise”

    The city of Pittsburgh. And white people.

    “c) you don’t actually dislike them that much. you just root against them because you hate the type of people who blindly support them”

    When Ovechkin wins, he has a great team around him. When this person wins, he makes his teammates better. Nevermind the fact that this person’s teams are, in fact, far better than Ovechkin’s (except the 2010 Penguins, who legitimately sucked). Also nevermind the fact that this person performs equally as well, if not worse, than Ovechkin in clutch situations.

    When Ovechkin loses, he chokes and it’s all on him. When this person loses to the exact same team and performs far worse, he “struggles” and it’s his team’s fault.

    “d) they’re asking for it”

    The league’s biggest co-star gets a hat trick in a playoff game against the franchise’s biggest rival, and this person complains to the refs about fans celebrating. A wise VSS above me said it best: bitchassness personified.

    VSBs and VSSs everywhere collectively say: Hockey? Really?

    “e) they actually were in direct competition with you….a long, long time ago”

    Unrelated to any of the above, my girlfriend not so secretly hates people over things that happened in high school. I barely remember the mofos I went to high school with, let alone the stuff they did.

    • Ahhh the Sid Vs. Ove arguement. This one never gets old

      When Ovechkin wins, he has a great team around him. When this person wins, he makes his teammates better. Nevermind the fact that this person’s teams are, in fact, far better than Ovechkin’s (except the 2010 Penguins, who legitimately sucked).

      this goes intot their positions, with Sid being a center and Ovi being a wing, as long as the Pens are winning Sid is considered to be doing big things. Whereas if the Caps are winning and Ovi is scoring it is percieved that his team puts him in the situations to be do so, or they’re playing great defense.

      Also nevermind the fact that this person performs equally as well, if not worse, than Ovechkin in clutch situations.

      And this is a product of Sid winning a Cup and a gold medal in the same year. so Sid has accrued some “clutch capital” that he can fall back on when he does perform bad in the clutch

      • I’ve always maintained that if the two switched teams, whether that be Russia-Canada or Capitals-Penguins, the same things would still happen.

        Shit, you should put ME on Team Canada instead of Crosby and they’re still winning the gold.

      • Hey my sister cried yesterday. Her canadiens lost… But they had a good run… I am not sure how I feel about those Flyers… Hmpph.

    • You good, dude. I live in Texas and I am a hockey fan. The Sid and Ovechkin argument is an interesting one. Crosby, even with a ring, will still need to win another where he ends up with the Conn Smythe Award before he can say that he truly accomplished something, and I am a Crosby fan saying this. Much like Big Ben in 2005, he wasn’t as much of a factor in the Finals last year as you would have expected him to be.

      • And how can you still like LBJ..to me he’s an even bigger bi**h than you claim Kobe to be. I mean I don’t know that cat on an uber personal level or anything..but the way the he threw them last two games against The Magic..that was some major bitchassness

        • lebron played a terrible, terrible, terrible game five (he actually wasn’t bad in game six. the effort was there but the celtics had just garnered too much momentum at that point), but what made it so shocking was the fact that he’s never done that before. from magic johnson to kobe, you can point to other superstars having epic fails in playoff games they were “supposed to” win, but that’s the first time it happened to him. i’m not going to change everything i think of a player because of one game.

  9. I actually root for people to fail because I whole-heartedly hate them. Yes, HATE, despise, abhor, etc. Hate hate hate!

    and i HAAATE kobe for every reason under the son. i hope the celtics take turns sawing his balls off with a dull blade and make him eat them

    ok…maybe not quite that, but you know, i hate him…

  10. LAKERS!!! :)

    Lindsay Lohan.
    I use to really like her.
    I thought she’d get it together. She hasn’t
    and now? Something’s gotta give.

    i ? Kobester

  11. As I was reading this post, Biggie’s song “My Downfall” came to mind. :-) I also can’t stand Kobe, Sarah Palin, Diddy, Terence Howard, and Nicki Minaj. That’s my top 5 folks that make me dry heave.

    • @miss t-lee, Terrence Howard? really? Why? I understand the Nicki Minaj one. She attracted all the classless hoodrats of the world but T. Howard? Please explain

      • That kat Terrence just rubs me the wrong way. From his hair, manpurses, voice, extraness (almost sure it’s not a word…lol), cockiness, arrogance, his “music”, etc. He’s a perfect throat punch candidate.

        • @miss t-lee, okay. LOL. I thought you would mention the fact that he treated his wife (/baby mama, one of those) like crap but he’s supposedly grown up and learned how to appreciate women or something like that *rolls eyes*. Whatever. His hair?? LMAO. Well he is mixed so I don’t think he’s doing the Al Sharpton. And I’ve never seen him w/ a manpurse lol so yea he might deserve to be on the list because of that. smh but overall he seems okay with me. He hasn’t made it to Denzel heights and he’s been acting forever; I’m not sure how he can fail honestly. He’s just rollin with the punches…

      • A fun azzhole huh? We all know someone like Diddy right? I mean, if you he’s paying for everything he could be tolerated, but other than that would you want be around this person? LMAO. Plus, his “vaka” (as he likes to pronounce it), tastes like turpentine.

          • LOL!! The ol’ folks love to talk about turpentine. Although I’ve never truly tasted it, I have smelled it, and ciroc tastes like how I would imagine turpentine tasting.

            That ish could peel paint right offa something.

    • @miss t-lee,

      Gurl, you don’t like Silky Fine? “Silky Fine” is my nickname for Terrence Howard. He be on some bougie pimpin’. Remember when he had that conk in his hair (it was short and it wasn’t for a movie role)? I guess he was trying to channel his inner Morris Day. Terrence the kind of cat who keeps his pinky fingernail extra long. Plus, the info about him requiring a woman to have baby wipes in her bathroom slayed me. I bet he carries lip gloss, baby wipes and a compact in his murse. Funny how I could like his roles and performances in some things (Best Man), but see him as Silky Fine today.

      • I totally mean to work in the wet wipes and his woman beating ways and completely forgot to include them in my comments…lol Thx ladies. @Legitimate Soul wasn’t there a 90s group or a singer named Silky Fine (different spelling though)? Maybe I imagined that…lol. @Cheekie, yes turpentine. There’s much better “vakas” out there. :-)

        • @miss t-lee,

          Yes, you are right. You made me google it and I think there was a lady-rapper named Sylk E Fyne who had some songs. “Romeo and Juliet” was one of the songs I remember from her catalog.

    • I’m wit you Miss t-lee, just the thought of Terence brings male v-necks and bare pedicured manfeet to mind- ugh!

        • bwahahaha girl you betta stop! New Jack is my shizz! “Rock-a-by-BABEEE”- lol. I never did get why some guys don’t get the concept that there a such thing as a “too pretty” man- ugh!… damn I’m sayin, step your scar game up, get a lazy eye or somethin, do anything but stop lookin like we got the same damn morning ritual… lather face, exfoliate, apply moisturizure, apply hot towel- let sit, tweeze brows, etc *eeerrrrllll*…

          I can’t see the link here but I already know… Jamie is a damn fool!- lol

          • Yeah…he looks like the kinda dude that would fight you for mirror space in the morning.
            No bueno.

    • Oh em gee.. I thought I was the only person who had that reaction to Terence Howard. Everytime I see him on a magazine or just hear his name, my skin crawls. I saw him in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof..and I tell ya if I knew he was in it I would not have gone. Ruint the whole experience for me chile! ruint my broadway.

      • Oh dayum. You let him ruint Broadway for ya? Say it ain’t so.
        However, I know I would be hotter than fish grease if I accidentally saw a show with him in it.

  12. Can you add any more insight?
    Yup, I can do it through song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA&feature=related
    Why do you think we root for others to fail, even if that other might not even know that we exist? **Refer to number 1-Schadenfreude.
    Can you name anyone who inspires this type of feeling in you? Yes, Michael Steele and Sarah Palin.
    Sooo many responsible, intelligent Repubes that can wipe the floor on Obama and they got these two running the ship. Champ, A-E is exactly what Michael Steele represents to the black community. A person who got his job cus he black. Start hating on someone who’s in a higher position then him but sucks at his job. Then when they plan to fired him, he bitches about being racially profile…….
    Well, Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin. Only women who made me wish she was married to Ike.
    *On a lighter note I never understood what made Lebron the next king. It’s not new seeing a great basketball player from High school in the NBA, matter of fact it’s pretty standard. Now I’m far from a kobe fan but, hearing people compare these two players nowadays is as confusing as the LOST Finale. Kobe’s been in the league since the 90s still getting rings and breaking records. Lebron is a player with a lot potential and promising future holding about five seasons under his belt.
    It’s like everyone is considering him part of G.O.A.T.s of the NBA, when hasn’t really accomplish that growth that we seen from other greats. His fans expect him to be in that membership with the greats but this is something that’s earned, never giving. I think it’s little unfair that LBJ is being compare to “Long-time member” kobe who proves that he can still come out on top when without shaq. Now, Lebron has to figure out if he’ll move or not. Mark my words: He is not going to NY.
    O! And just for laughs I’m still a Nets fan, this was just the worst season for us, the franchise, and the NBA. O well maybe next season ?

    • I think if I run up on the writers of lost, I may smack one them…Kay Slay style. W.T.F?!?!?!!!! 6 damn years…(goes on eternal rant)

      Bond.

    • “Can you name anyone who inspires this type of feeling in you? Yes, Michael Steele and Sarah Palin.
      Sooo many responsible, intelligent Repubes that can wipe the floor on Obama and they got these two running the ship”:

      i agree in that there are actually a couple repub policies that i might be able to roll with, if they didnt have so many idiots among their party and their leadership.

      as far as the kobe/lebron comparisons, i think most reasonable people will admit that kobe has had a much more accomplished career, and that lebron has quite a way to go if he wants to reach that level of achievement. but today, right now, lebron james is better at playing basketball. his game might not be as aesthetically graceful as kobe’s, but he’s more effective and more efficient.

      ***btw, please refrain from any “lost” talk. i just started watching it on netflix last month, and avoiding spoilers has been harder than chinese gym***

  13. I also abhor {HO}BE.

    The mention of him in comparisons to his Airness make me want to fight. Seriously, I get kind of heated. To True Jordan fans there is inkling of a comparison, and to insinuate such is a desecration of MJ’s great game.

    A few months back, a Laker fan was arguing me to death that the ‘best’ {H}obe was better than the ‘best’ Jordan. In between laughter I had a vision to get my Ruger and do the world a favor. Such stupidity is intolerable. I calmed down, and instead decided to take the subjectivity of the argument to something {H}obe fans continue to overlook: facts and stats.

    After showing him a comparison of Jordan’s career scoring average, playoff scoring average, etc. He suddenly wanted to talk about the ‘subjectivity’ of the era. How convenient. Let me go to bed…I’m getting pissed thinking about the absurdity of all these convos, especially during playoff time…

    Bond. BlkBond.

      • I respect Jordan’s skill. He’s a frat brother too! However, I never liked how he never used his celebrity or success to speak up about ANYTHING. I also hated that his shoes were really expensive and inner-city and poor kids of color are getting robbed, shot, and wanting these shoes because of his celebrity and he continued to get money. I can play devil’s advocate to my own argument and say he was there to play basketball not be a politician and if it wasn’t his shoe folks would have found another expensive shoe to buy, but it still didn’t sit right with me. I got love for Jordan, but I got some criticism for him too.

    • I sincerely believe that people today have forgotten watching Michael Jordan play basketball. There’s no other explanation for these laughable Kobe/LeBron/whoever comparisons to him.

      • I agree. Kobe, LeBron or any of these new fangled kats vs. Jordan’s skill? Negative. Jordan was the truth. Point. Blank. Period.

      • Actually the Kobe comparisons aren’t too far off. If you look at them play the game, it’s look like your watching the same person. Same skill set, same athletic ability, and same expectations of foul calls.

        • “Actually the Kobe comparisons aren’t too far off. If you look at them play the game, it’s look like your watching the same person. Same skill set, same athletic ability, and same expectations of foul calls.”

          i agree to a certain point. kobe has always resembled the older, post baseball retirement mj, but not he’s never been as explosive athletically as the young jordan was.

          honestly, to me, the player who most resembles the young mj in that way is dwyane wade.

          also, it’s not blasphemy to compare skill-level between eras. the game evolves and people get better. that’s the way the sports world works. there’s probably a kid in 6th grade somewhere now who will be better than lebron and kobe and durant and whoever.

          • People don’t get better Champ. I was just having this conversation with my brother after the Tragic almost choked and made David stern have another heart attack because he wouldn’t be able to extend that pathetic series to game 5.

            If you watch the games of the 80′s and 90′s, I will bet money that the play, shooting percentage, etc. was better than what you are watching right now in the NBA.

            If players are getting better, how come Artis Gilmore STILL holds the all-time career shooting average at 67%, yet the same man, has not received ONE vote for the hall of fame?
            How come people almost lost their mind when Lebron almost averaged a triple double, but the Big O already did it damn near 50 years ago?

            Look: the ratings are down. The game sucks. The superstars are average (especially in comparison to 80′s & 90′s). The NBA will have to truly make this a ‘global’ game by starting a foreign franchise to broaden the market from the mediocrity that is currently NBA basketball. It sucks.

            Bond.

          • @blkbond

            i get the feeling that you’re so convinced about the “nba sucks compared to 20 years ago” assertion that any statistic i cite disputing your comment will be dismissed. i’ll still cite them though.

            also, before i begin, i will say concede that the best teams of the mid-late 80′s were probably better than the best teams today, but that’s mainly because a select few teams (boston, la, and philly) horded the talent and were able to keep their cores intact for several years. in the salary cap era, though, that’s not going to be possible. the same thing has happened in the nfl

            anyway…

            “People don’t get better Champ.”

            yes they do. by all accounts, players are bigger, stronger, faster, and more skilled than they’ve ever been. lebron james is the exact same size as the best power forward in that era (karl malone) and he’s basically a point guard. guys have 24 hour personal trainers, chefs, and workout gurus at their disposal to help them perfect their games, a stark change from 20-25 years ago when players were still smoking cigarettes at halftime.

            “If you watch the games of the 80’s and 90’s, I will bet money that the play, shooting percentage, etc. was better than what you are watching right now in the NBA.”

            what’s going on here is selective memory. those games happened 20 years ago, so of course you’re only going to remember the good games and not the mundane. but, trust me, there was plenty of that back then as well. every game wasn’t celtics/lakers or bulls/knicks. there were a ton of clippers/bucks duds played then too.

            also in the 1986-1987 nba season (the year the lakers beat the celtics in the finals) the league average shooting percentage was .480. the average 3pt percentage was .30, and the average free throw percentage was .763.

            in 2008-2009, the average shooting percentage was .460. the average 3pt percentage was .37, and the average free throw percentage was .77.

            (check here if you don’t believe me: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1987.html, http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2009.html)

            basically, you can make the argument that players are better shooters today. you would owe me money

            “How come people almost lost their mind when Lebron almost averaged a triple double, but the Big O already did it damn near 50 years ago?”

            they played at a much faster pace then, and shot a much worse percentage from the field. this (the faster pace) leads to more ppg, and more shots. more missed shots means more opportunity for rebounds. (not even factoring the horrendous level of competition then) if you extrapolated lebron’s 2009-2010 stats with the 1962-1963 pace of play, he would have averaged 42, 14, and 13.

            “Look: the ratings are down.”

            the ratings have actually been increasing for the past 4 years. the were down before because all the teams in the northeast (new york, new jersey, philly, and boston) basically sucked for so long.

            put it this way, if tim duncan’s spurs had been in new york and dirk’s mavericks were in jersey, i promise you wouldn’t be singing this same tune. this is part of the reason why there’s such a big push to get lebron to new york. if new york has a nationally relevant team, it makes the entire country see the league in a different light.

            the game is far from perfect. but, it seems like your animus is based more on your heart and memory than what is actually going on.

          • That’s just a start.

            Not to mention his 2 gold medals as an Olypian.
            All of his scoring titles.
            His DEFENSIVE player of the year award (he shut you down, while he scores at will. Unbelievable)
            Rookie of the year.
            Sports Illustrated Man of the year….

            et cetera.
            et cetera.

            We haven’t even got to the stats yet. Kobe people…shut the &ck up until you learn to read and comprehend that no one is or ever will be close to Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

            Bond. BlkBond.

        • This is the same dumb a$$ stuff I have to listen to in arbitrary barbershops and when I visit L.A.

          See: Wikipedia
          See: NBA statistics
          See: Youtube

          I don’t have the energy to completely educate today…

          Bond.

  14. you don’t actually dislike them that much. you just root against them because you hate the type of people who blindly support them

    1) Vince Young supporters — You really have to be from Houston and a rabid sports fan to understand this one. The people from here that watched him dominate at the high school level and do the same at UT CANNOT and WILL NOT be told any different that the mighty VY won’t succeed as an NFL QB. (He won’t long term — not too bright, mentally soft, bad mechanics, run first mentality) He got by purely on athletic ability in college.

    Although as I was getting ready to shovel the last bit of dirt on his career he did remarkably improved last season. There was weeping and gnashing of teeth in my household. 90% of Houston and UT fans virtually enshrined him in tha HOF coming out of the draft and when my team the Texans passed on him (Thank GOD!) it only made things worse.

    1a) Cowboys fans — Myself being from Tx and a diehard H-town loyalist, my reasons are obvious.

    2) Any NY sports team — One of my best friends blindly supports them as I do Houston and it’s just fueled my dislike of anything Knick, Giant, or Yankee related. (Although, I do like the Jets and what Rex Ryan is doing with that team and i have no opinion of the Mets one way or another so I suppose I can’t say ANY NY sports team!)

    3) Red Sox fans — Used to root for these guys as the long suffering underdogs, until they started winning championships on a regular basis and they started gettin as doucebaggy as Yankee fans. (Same arguement could be made for the Patriots but they get a pass cause T. Brady is tha man!)

    5) Redskin fans — Lived in VA for 6 yrs one time. Trust me, they’re lunatics

    4) Beyonce Stans – They really disturb me *smh*

    5) Rhianna Stans – They run a very close 2nd

    6) Kobe — Reasons supplied by Champ are dead on. Although I must say he seems to be more comfortable in his skin now than ever before.

    • “5) Redskin fans — Lived in VA for 6 yrs one time. Trust me, they’re lunatics”

      Coming from a guy who’s Maryland born and raised, Redskins fans are quite easily the most delusional people on the planet.

      • Yea I am in the DMV and Skins fans believe every year is a super bowl year. It is quite funny and sad at the same time.

    • @Tx living in Austin you already know I know plenty about the VY stans. You can’t throw a rock w/o hitting 25 of them. I agree, Cowboy fans are THEE worst. One of my homeboys is HUGE cowboys fan–I take special delight in calling him and rubbing every loss in his face. Which reminds me, I can’t wait for football season.

    • 1) Vince Young supporters

      Oh my god, it’s like a religion or something down here. I have an acquaintance (older than I am which means practically a cougar to Vince) who stood in line for hours to attend an event Vince was supposed to “host”…. *smh*… Yeah, these Houston broads stan for Vince Young or any NFL player really something serious.

      • Oh I’ve been at the clubs, here and in the H when VY is in the buildling. Them girls will break they neck to get to him (but I guess that’s really any NFL guy). I met him on 6th during the Relays one year, nice guy, I will give him that.

        Oh and trust, the stans were much worse when Ricky Williams was playing here…lol

  15. Champ this was beautiful.

    I for one, LOVE the Lakers. But I hate Kobe. I never forgave him for what went down with Shaq. Ugh. Can’t talk about it, it’s too hard.

    As for this failure stuff, i sit and think about this all day. I am a work in progress!

    • “I for one, LOVE the Lakers. But I hate Kobe. I never forgave him for what went down with Shaq. Ugh. Can’t talk about it, it’s too hard.”

      My sentiments exactly…And it wasn’t just the situation with Shaq; it started with Vanessa and went downhill from there…

  16. I’m more of a hater than I thought SMDH. :D Floyd Mayweather. He’s a Michigan native (like myself. He’s from Grand Rapids, I’m from the D) but he talks the most ish (even though he can back it up, so far) but that is NOT how we get down in MI and he embarasses everything he represents with his bragging and carrying on. Yea he fights for money and proud of his success but that’s not an excuse for his ninja-ish behavior. I can’t wait until someone knocks him out. I don’t think it will be Pacquiao but someone’s gotta give him his first loss and I hope I’m able to see when that happens.I think I’m done for the night.

    • yea see this is hating at its finest right here! See I don’t see how you can hate someone who knows that he’s great and shows it every time he steps in the ring. It’s always funny how people bag on Floyd for bragging and carrying on but then in then same dicussion talk about how great Ali was, when in reality they are the exact same person in terms of boxing.

      • @Kirk Lazarus, aren’t you the SAME one up there hating on Jordan? Calling him a devil lol. Please. Ali fought for the glory of it (even though their similarity is talking mad smack about their opponents. Mayweather and his father took notes from Ali on how to do that!). Mayweather does not respect that (glory, legacy, and class) and only wants to be seen as an “entertainer”. His only legacy will be talking sh*t. I could go on but that’s basically the bottom line.

        • No I was calling whoever said they hated Jordan the devil! And how can you say he doesn’t respect the glory of it when he trains and prepares the same way for every fight. He respects the glory by logging the miles and training as hard as he does, not by being who he isn’t. And I can respect him for wanting to be only seen as an entertainer because as much as he has given to boxing (he is the only draw that is has now), when he is done fighting, boxing will not be there to take care of him. So he has an obligatin to himself and his family to put himself in the most lucrative situation now and for when he is finished boxing.

          • ohhh you were quoting! I thought that was all you. lol Sorry about that. I respect his grind too especially since he came from practically nothing as he describes. We can all agree that boxing ain’t what it used to be especially since mainstream wrestling and now MMA so I TOTALLY get that. His foolish pride is bugging me most of all. He actually fixed his lips to say he was better than Ali. I like a person who believes in himself but uhhh no fool. Go ahead and say that you look up to him (we all know it’s true) and believe that you can surpass his legacy. Even that would be a stretch but sometimes it’s the way you say things and it’s definitely the way he said it. He behaves as if he’ll never be beat. He can go ahead with that “yea I said it, I’m better than Ali too” and just admit that he does want the glory and class, and notoriety (just like Ali has earned because even when Ali lost, he was praised as The Man). Frankly I believe the people anticipate the fights and he is the ultimate money maker (hence of course the prize fighting) and he sells himself well but I think they really want to see him go down finally as much as I do. I wouldn’t want to see him totally hurt (physically or emotionally) but I don’t care what opposers say, he could use a foot up his ass and I’m dying to know whose foot it will be.

          • See this is my problem with hating Floyd, you say this:
            “He actually fixed his lips to say he was better than Ali.”
            And are you sure that this is wrong? Ali has 5 losses, Floyd has none. I can count at least 5 fights where Ali won and got his a*s beat, I have never seen Floyd leave a fight with any sustainable injuries. And in a sport called the “sweet science,” Floyd probably has the most scientific fighting style in boxing. Only thing Ali has claim to is that he fought better fighters, but thenI’ve seen Ali lose to a great fighter and I have seen him win fights and still get beat up by a lesser fighter.
            And this:
            “He behaves as if he’ll never be beat”
            I think every athlete in the world some where in their mind believes this! No one is going to step into the ring with the thought that they could be beat. If you do then you already lost the fight. And if he hasn’t lost a fight yet, why have any thought in your head that you can? That’s for the people who fight him to do

      • @Kirk I’ll add that he IS a great fighter. I won’t take anything away from him when it comes to that but he is a disgrace and yes it’s because of his attitude. Ali didn’t believe in humility either and was proud to say that he didn’t but Mayweather might piss on himself and commit suicide if he lost. We’ll see someday though. I enjoy his fights but he needs a 1 and a challenge & see how he acts afterwards. Respected like Ali? NEVER!

        • Who/what is Floyd disgracing? He making money by running his mouth to build up a draw for his fights. Then he takes his hard earned money and spends it on nice things! and you obvioulsy haven’t seen Floyd after his fights, because he always is very respectful of his opponent, even after he punks they a*s for 12 rounds (shouts out to Shane)!

    • The fact that so many people hate Floyd is proof that he is doing his job correctly. His style of fighting is only appealing to purists like myself, so in order to make himself into a draw he had to do what others have done before him and go The Gorgeous George route and get everyone to pay to watch him possibly lose.

      • @Dash, that’s fair. Like I said up there he sells himself well, gotta give it to the man. He’s gettin money the way he wants and he’s doing it in a legit way. I commend that. I’m one those who love to hate him but I REALLY want to like him and I think that humility will earn him my personal respect. Again, that’s just me (and a whole lot others). I don’t want to see him fail but he needs atleast 1 next to that damn near 40 he’s got and to see how he acts afterwards is going to be crazy/sight to see lol

  17. I am so co-signing this post. I can’t stand that negro Kobe Bryant. He is a snitch..and he suffers from and extreme case of b*tchassness on the regular basis……

    I also can’t stand Dallas fans. These people are some of the most arrogant sumab*tches you will ever meet in your life..and since I am a diehard Redskins fans…it doesn’t help. I hate the Eagles fans, too…but, since the Redskins acquired Donovan I realize how ignorant the whole franchise is..so. it stands to reason…..

    I hope I didn’t offend anyone….lol.

    that is all.

    • He is a snitch..and he suffers from an extreme case of b*tchassness on the regular basis……

      So shouldn’t he suffer from a case of snitchassness instead?? lol

  18. Fans
    And not your typical fans who are down for their team win or lose. But the fans who live and die with every win or lost. Fans who can love you and monday and hate you on tuesday. While most of these fans have never played a sport, they can tell you how bad you suck at it. So I basically hate all philadelphia sports fans

    • @Kirk
      *Former resident of Philly cracking up*….Plus, you know Philly fans will “boo” you in a minute….and throw ‘ish at you.

      • My brother was at Temple during the Sixers-Lakers finals. Told me that some dude’s ripped a Kobe jersey right off some kid’s back and burned it in the middle of the street.

        I’ve never once questioned the authenticity of this story. It’s Philly; it was actually probably a lot worse than what he told me.

      • yea I lost all respect for the Philly fans after they cheered Michael Irvin breaking his neck.

    • @JumpOnIt

      I think she’s more of a boring person than an artist. She has never uttered anything interesting. (period)

    • I’m shocked that we made it to 94 comments before Beyonce’s name came up. I used to be a Beyonce hater, but her voice has improved and she’s been around a while (what can be considered a while for this business nowadays anyways). Now my hate has dwindled to mere dislike and annoyance.

    • Argh I can’t stand her!!!! I ubberly hate Beyonce. There’s nothing special about the chick, she’s super boring, she’s just face. I hate that I’m forced to listen to her sing, I hate her front lace wigs… with all those tumbles on stage you would think she’d break her neck already and just disintegrate. [That was actually a mean thing to say so I digress....]
      *back to lurker mode*

    • Naw, “Single Ladies” made me jump out of bed and start dancing with her. I can’t hate on Beyonce. I might think that weave and House of Dereon is a HAM, but I like how she brings it on performances. :P

    • Like someone above said: Beyonce Stans are the worst. Some of them be asking for as$ whoopins trying to defend her name. Every time an up and coming artist (some teenage girl, even more sick when it’s a “grown” woman) says she is their top inspiration, I already know not to give them the time of day. She has her own talent but she obviously gets most of her inspiration from Josephine Baker, Diana Ross, Tina Turner, and Prince (who doesn’t love Prince). I wish she would pay more homage to those people but she’s alright with me. I am a Beyonce fan but I am tired of that blonde weave. It literally makes me sick when I see it, I am not playing.

  19. I have always been a Lakers fan, not because of Kobe, but because of the Lakers’ Legacy. Kobe has had the worst attitude and I hated his guts for a long time. I have just now succumb to his arrogant attitude after the summer olympic games. While I acknowledge Kobe’s attitude, I can’t deny his talent, Just like I can’t deny Beyonce’s voice–The girl can sing lol.

  20. Sigh.
    I’ve got mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I don’t believe in apologising for greatness. Like Kobe is a legitimately good player, why should he act like anything but awesome? (because it might make people not hate him so much)
    On the other hand there are people(Limbaugh, Teapartiers), teams(Longhorns,Boise State), institutions (Longhorns) that I subconsciously (or vocally) root against not because of reason a-c You hit the nail on the head.
    Thanks for making my hate seem logical.

  21. Baby, you have way too much time on your hands.

    What you’ve described is not hate, it’s jealousy. We’ve all been there to some degree or another. You’re jealous at the fact that for all of Mr. Bryant’s grandstanding, criminal record, etc. (yes, he DID rape someone and rapists are the lowest forms of life) he is still, in the eyes of society, a successful man. This man can go anywhere have men and women fall all over him as if he was the second coming on THE ONLY ONE that really counts, but I digress. It all boils down to your feeling less than where YOU think your life should be right now, emphasis on “should”. Don’t waste your time with this nonsense. It only directs your energy in the wrong direction: at him and not at YOURSELF. For better or worse (worse I say) Kobe is out there doing HIS THING, with a “I don’t give a f$%k!!” attitude and that’s why he is where he is today. Maybe it’s not Kobe you hate, it’s his balls, his bravado, his belief in himself and his ability to make others follow him regardless of his shenanigans and criminal record (I detest criminals, can you tell?) I am certainly not a fan, don’t even watch basketball to tell you the truth, but I do admire people who believe in themselves and go for it. Go for it, dammit! Stop wasting time being jealous of those who believe in themselves. Shoot! Brother take notes!

    Peace and have a glass of Malbec

    • “Maybe it’s not Kobe you hate, it’s his balls, his bravado, his belief in himself and his ability to make others follow him regardless of his shenanigans and criminal record (I detest criminals, can you tell?) I am certainly not a fan, don’t even watch basketball to tell you the truth, but I do admire people who believe in themselves and go for it. Go for it, dammit! Stop wasting time being jealous of those who believe in themselves. Shoot! Brother take notes!’

      i really like this whole paragraph, because that’s a quality i am strongly attracted to in a man (sans the criminal intent/acts/record). but i think this is just a really strong bball fan’s reaction similar to a lot of other kobe haters. and not ‘haters’ in a jay-z sense, but hate as in they loathe him for some reason. similarly to the hate i feel for lebron james. lol.

      • I hope you’re right.
        Yeah, I love men and just people in general who just go for it. It’s not always about how smart someone is, what university they graduated from. Usually those people tend to play it safe. Yes, they too accomplish great things but those risk takers? Gotta love the risk-takers, they inspire me to do better, be the best me that I can be.

    • “What you’ve described is not hate, it’s jealousy. We’ve all been there to some degree or another. You’re jealous at the fact that for all of Mr. Bryant’s grandstanding, criminal record, etc. (yes, he DID rape someone and rapists are the lowest forms of life) he is still, in the eyes of society, a successful man.”

      eh. try again.

      there are a ton of other successful athletes and entertainers (from allen iverson and charles barkley to jay-z and diddy) who’ve managed to still be extremely popular after somewhat shady pasts, and i’m still big fans of each. also, if “jealousy” was my motive, why kobe and not the hundreds of other superstar athletes and entertainers who are more famous and financially successful than i am?

      i see where you’re going, but you’re barking up the wrong flagpole. i appreciate the effort, though

      • Hmm, I see your point but Jay-Z and the other guys you’ve mentioned are for better or worse likeable characters. They’re the kind of guys that you would not refuse to hang around with. Kobe on the other hand, well, not so much. Kobe seems like the kind of dude that doesn’t have time to shoot the sh$t, let alone have a beer with one of his friends. He’s not there to be liked, he’s there to win and that seems to piss off a lot of people. I don’t endorse this kind of attitude, but I understand. Kobe spells team with an I. Dig? He’s a loner plain and simple and I respect that.

        Peace

    • “What you’ve described is not hate, it’s jealousy. We’ve all been there to some degree or another. ”

      Sincere question: Can we truly hate someone without being accused of being jealous of them? I mean, what if it is a valid hate and not because we want to be them or do the things they’re able to do? I mean, are the only folks we can hate without being accused of being jealous of them are bums?

      • Of course it is. Jealousy doesn’t have to be ugly. To root for someone else’s failure is really a wake up call to look at your own life and see where you yourself are lacking. To ask yourself where you’re falling short is a huge step in the right direction to reaching your goals. That’s why I said to the author to “take notes”. Everyone needs to improve in some area of our life, just don’t waste time being jealous or “rooting for someone else to fail”. Do you and do it well.

  22. -Tiger woods and His wife. words cannot explain the amount of hatred I have for that man and his skanky wife, wanted him to be humiliated completely, I was fine with his nanny/wife till she proved to be nothing but a gold digger, perfect couple.
    -Rihanna and &beyonce, Rihanna started fine, now she is nothing but a hoe paid to entertain people while naked or semi-nude.Her music makes my head ache every damn timeBeyonce Refer to stuffblackpeoplehate, dude summed up my feeling pretty well.
    -All stupid reality shows running on TV right now.
    -Lastly KIM KARDASHIAN, I still dont get why she is a celebrity apart from being a porn star, I hate what she represents and I hate her fans(why they like her am yet to understand) Her voice is annoying as hell worse than that of the CSI miami blonde chic

    • @Anita

      “I hate what she represents and I hate her fans”

      Yikes! Then I’m probably on your hated list. Honestly, I don’t see Kim Kardashian any differently than any other plastic female in Hollywood; so why single her out? She a bit of an airhead….yes. But she doesn’t seem cocky (a trait that I cannot stand) about her success and she has a great relationship with her family (I love people who love their family). Also, I guess what I like about her is that she has curves and owns them (not to mention, she is very pretty to me). For us sistas (or maybe just me), it’s refreshing to see curves in the mainstream for a change because it wasn’t always so popular outside of our culture. (Just my two cents)

      • Sistas are still being called fat for having a big butt in the same mainstream media. She is a whore who is famous for having a sex tape. Flip the tape and put a sista on it and tell what people would say. We wouldnt hear the end of that bull! She nothing but a glorified pornstar and gold digger. Just saying

    • I was waiting for a fellow VSS to mention those Kardashian WHORES! )x^0

      I detest the way they exploit successful & stupid black athletes. These guys don’t know any better than to succumb to the KK wiles. These men are not well advised. Those men were raised without their fathers in the home. *smh*

      Leh KKardashians (and the Persian mama who whelped them) have a lotta miles on them, but no one calls those sisters out on it. Instead, the black community puts them on a pedestal. This does not make any sense. We don’t have to accept the KKs, Mariah, Halle, Nicole Richie, AND Tiger! Be selective, black people.

      Then Essence wants to feature the KKs and their imbecilic negro men?!? God help us all. x_x

    • I actually have a hard time understanding the people who hate Kim Kardashians… I am not particularly a fan of hers since I have never even seen her show, but I really can’t understand why people hate her?

      She is a gorgeous girl who has made a name for herself and parlayed a rather sticky situation (sex tape et al) into a profitable business. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that… Then again, I might be an outlier… Afterall, I support Karine Steffans… Lol.

      • @Sula,

        “She is a gorgeous girl who has made a name for herself and parlayed a rather sticky situation (sex tape et al) into a profitable business.”

        That’s pretty much how I see it. I mean….I’ve never heard of Kim doing anything trife like kickin it with someone’s husband or anything like that (the reason I don’t support Supahead). lol!

  23. As a native Chicagoan I absolutely adore MJ and for this reason alone I cannot co-sign the foolishness that is Kobe Bryant. He makes my skin hurt to just watch him play and I am now thoroughly convinced that without Pau Gasol they would not even be a factor at this point. Although I am slowly beginning to hate all things Arizona I’m going to have to say “Go Suns”! In addition, to my disdain for Kobe I’m going to have to add all of Beyonce’s mindless minions to this list. It’s one thing if you like her but to treat this chick as the second coming and then to utter out of your mouth that she is better than the likes of Aretha, Patti, and Anita vocally….sadly, there are no words.

    • “Although I am slowly beginning to hate all things Arizona I’m going to have to say “Go Suns”!”

      you know whats funny? the suns are one of those teams that nobody seems to hate, but they reside in a state that’s quickly become the most hated in the union. what do to and sh*t?

      • Someone on a blog mentionned forcing Arizona to secede and relocating their teams to Nevada or New Mexico or something… I actually think the idea is brilliant. :lol:

  24. @Pretty Cute–i hate jordan too

    Co-mufukking-sign! I started to hate him after I heard about his stable of 2520 women. I’m glad Juanita got 50%!

    That said, I do believe that he was a great basketball player.

  25. @Anita-Beyonce Refer to stuffblackpeoplehate, dude summed up my feeling pretty well.

    That was one of the most hilarious blog posts…ever. Lol! I even saved it on my laptop so that I could refer to it years down the road.

    What is it about Beyonce that inspires such extreme feelings? And why can’t people just not care, one way or the other, about her? Beyonce stans call you a hater. Beyonce haters call you a groupie.

  26. why yes Champ, i do this all the time. lol.

    i am a Kobe stan so i’m kinda inclined to call you a hater but since i do it, i’ll be quiet.

    “admittedly, i can understand why so many people seemed to be so happy about lebron’s recent playoff mishaps.”

    ummm mishap? i believe you mean his recent playoff EPIC FAIL.

    i CAN’T STAND Lebron Delroy Lindo James and i’m so glad he is watching the finals like everyone else now. i root for his failure every time i see a billboard, a commercial, a picture in a shoe store… anything of him. and that’s like every 10 minutes on a normal day, so i’m emitting a whole lot of Fail out into the atmosphere on his behalf. lol. he’s arrogant (and not in the hot way) rude (i know you saw the way he threw that shirt on the ground for the little boy to fetch that one game) and he looks like a saint bernard.

    i reeeally dislike dwight howard’s shoulder-to-head ratio. i root for his failure just so i don’t have to see them on my screen anymore.

    and the whole of the republican party and anyone else rooting for President Obama’s failure… most of all sarah palin.

  27. I normally fall into the ‘dont care either way’ category but she literally gets shoved down your throat whether you like it or not. and thats what drives some people nuts. its not unusual that im surfing through the music channels and she was on at least 4 at the same time.one time it was 6. 6!!! I cursed at her, the stations, everybody. I live in london and there are always late to the party when it comes to good music but damn. give a sister a break once in a while.

    And also I find that even mostly impartial people get irate when talking to blind beyonce worshippers. Like she walks on water. Find the balance dumass. Shes beautiful and hardworking, she can sing (sometimes) but put some damn clothes on. Say something interesting. you cant say these things to a stan though. There is no middle ground….

    • @chelsea

      “Like she walks on water. Find the balance dumass. Shes beautiful and hardworking, she can sing (sometimes) but put some damn clothes on. Say something interesting”

      My exact thoughts about Beyonce.

    • “And also I find that even mostly impartial people get irate when talking to blind beyonce worshippers. Like she walks on water. Find the balance dumass. Shes beautiful and hardworking, she can sing (sometimes) but put some damn clothes on. Say something interesting. you cant say these things to a stan though. There is no middle ground….”

      Yes. I don’t even hate Beyonce. I’m “meh” on her. But my “meh” translates to “hate” to Beyonstans. And I HATE them. They cannot defend their precious Bey without targeting the looks of anyone who criticizes, which to me, is an ULTIMATE FAIL if you have to resort to such mess. It truly says more about her supposed talent that you can’t state a valid argument that she has so much of it.

      I’m a fan of a lot of people. But, I don’t think everything they do is perfect. Hell, the mofo I VOTED for to be the leader of the free world ain’t perfect in my eyes. So, that goes for everyone else.

      • “They cannot defend their precious Bey without targeting the looks of anyone who criticizes, which to me, is an ULTIMATE FAIL if you have to resort to such mess. It truly says more about her supposed talent that you can’t state a valid argument that she has so much of it.”

        Thats exactly right! You cant so much as have an opinion or criticize the music without it coming down to looks. Somehow all women who don’t love her MUST be jealous of her looks. But I guess it has to come down to looks right because Lord knows I wont be bumping to ‘freakum dress’ in 10 years time. No one said she wasnt beautiful, or even if they did, everyones entitled to their own opinion.

  28. I too agree with your dislike of Bean Bryant. If I were told that he was created in a lab to play basketball and basketball only, I would nod in agreement. He can ball, but he’s still a tool.

    *Side note* I never hated Tiger simply because it’s golf and I couldn’t bring myself to give a damn. *In Comic Book Guy from the Simpson’s voice* “Lamest game everrrr!”

    b) they represent something you despise
    All of the following people represent something I despise; fakeness. In this case they have an unreal image or “media machine” backing their public persona when they actually are just turds.

    1) Mike Jordan. I loved to watch him play but I honestly thought dude needed to have his a** beat. I really wanted Charles Oakley to lay hands on him. My pops and I were alone in our dislike for his airness for years. After his douchey hall of fame showing I got a text from my best friend that read “Damn dog, you were hating Mike Jordan before it was popular.”

    2) Sean Combs. If I were Peter Griffin Sean Combs would be the Chicken. I don’t remember why I want to beat his a**, but I must do it. I guess a hammer is never going to love a nail.

    3) Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rush, Glenn Beck, and their listeners. No one should profit from hate. Sadly the idiots who listen to this trash follow along with no problem.

    *looking in a mirror and singing B.o.B* “I think you’re a hater, I think you’re a hater. Haters everywhere we go, haters everywhere we go..”

    • 1) Mike Jordan. I loved to watch him play but I honestly thought dude needed to have his a** beat. I really wanted Charles Oakley to lay hands on him.

      you know him and oakley are bff’s, right?

    • “2) Sean Combs. If I were Peter Griffin Sean Combs would be the Chicken. I don’t remember why I want to beat his a**, but I must do it. I guess a hammer is never going to love a nail.”

      I used to really hate on Diddles when he was on Making the Band. Probably because he fed into that “In Hollyweird, you must learn how deal with folks treating you like sh*t just because you’re a rookie..aka ‘pay your dues’” I never liked that mentality because it gave folks (who USED to be rookies themselves) permission to be complete and utter assholes just for the sake of being the hole of an ass. And Diddles would try to hard with his.

      I still hate on him, but he doesn’t make me as angry as he used to. I usually just laugh at him. Take that.

      • @Cheekie,

        “I used to really hate on Diddles when he was on Making the Band. Probably because he fed into that “In Hollyweird, you must learn how deal with folks treating you like sh*t just because you’re a rookie..aka ‘pay your dues’” I never liked that mentality because it gave folks (who USED to be rookies themselves) permission to be complete and utter assholes just for the sake of being the hole of an ass. And Diddles would try to hard with his. ”

        ^THIS and especially your last sentence made me think for some time now that Diddy is an eternal *insert name of black fraternity candidate* that never made it.

    • I’ll remind you why you hate Puffy.

      1) All those damn name changes. He needs to pick one & stick to it!

      2) Because he made those Making the Band peeps walk over the Brooklyn Bridge in the freezing cold.

      3)Because like a lot of rich people, he seems to have that mentality like…I have money so no matter what you say or do to or about me I’m better than you.

      Well anyway #2 is why I stopped liking him.

    • He can ball, but he’s still a tool.

      I think I will order a Lakers Jersey 24 with those words written underneath his name… For realz. Do you mind if I use it? I’ll mention I got it from you. :)

  29. I’ll proudly state that I’m a self-proclaimed Hater. Proudly. I honestly don’t think that there’s anything wrong with this. Sometimes I hate for no reason, other times, with reason, and other times, just for hatings sake. Shiiddd…it’s fun.

    Some people who have haters say the haters are their motivators, so you can call me a motivational muafugga….*ahem* speaker, I mean.

    It’s a fact that I don’t want everyone to succeed mostly due to the reasons that The Champ pointed out, and here’s a few:

    *Wacka Flocka Flame – I can’t even front, with him getting shot and going to jail earlier this year, a part of me rejoiced a little. Hey, you talk that tough shyt, it’s bound to catch up to you (I’m looking at you Pac and Biggie). Cats love this n*gga (and Gucci) here in the ‘A’ and it’s sickening to me because of the foolishness in the lyrics. I admit, I may be a fan to some ignant shyt but his is just ridiculous. “O leh’ do it…I influence, drug dealing music…” – Yeah, I’m hatin’ on that…and all his dyck ridin’ industry co-signers. And to top it off, this n*gga got a Fonzi bear (from Muppets’ fame) pendant that he’s wearing now. For real? You a thug with a muppet chain? Not to mention, he was on Mo’Nique’s show and totally changed up where his name came from. Previously, he said GucciMane gave him the name cause it’s the sound that a gun makes when one cocks it. Then, he switched it up to being a nickname that his family gave him back in the day. GTFOHWTBS.

    *Speaking of Mo’Nique, I hate on her as well. She’s the absolute worst when it comes to conducting interviews. I know that she has probably been inspired by some great people (Oprah comes to mind), but did she even study the craft before hopping into it? I think not. I want her show to fail (actually, not really, cause I know some people who work for her show)…at least to the point where she has to revamp it and tighten her skills up.

    *Chilli – Although she’s a really sweet person and comes across as being very genuine, I hope she doesn’t find all the things that she’s looking for in a mate and is forced to say, “ok, I’ve settled”. This isn’t necessarily me hating on her, but when someone’s really cocky, stubborn, and steadfast about something, I desire for them to have that humbling moment. I guess that’s why I liked “Punk’d” so much. It’s great to see celebs whom so many people place on a pedastal be the butt of a joke.

    *The Bill O’Reilly’s, Pat Robertson’s, and Rush Limbaugh’s of this world – I just hate what these n*ggas stand for…period…and their nation of followers makes the hate brew.

    *Dumb, Greedy Jocks – They give lackluster women a platform, add to the stereotype that men think with their ‘other’ head and have no self-control,

    • @Monk

      “*Dumb, Greedy Jocks – They give lackluster women a platform, add to the stereotype that men think with their ‘other’ head and have no self-control”

      *clapping slowing and increasing the speed every third clap* This is why I never feel bad when these atheletes have to pay bucket loads of money to these “lackluster” women if they divorce. Persuing women based on looks alone comes at a premium. smh

      • Precisely. One should know what they’re getting into when wifing these broads…or even banging these broads. At some point in time, we have to look at dudes that enable the culture of golddiggin’…the source.

      • “Persuing women based on looks alone comes at a premium. smh”

        Sure does. Trophies look shiny at first, but those mofos get dusty over time. You can re-shine it, but it’s just gonna collect more dust.

        • @Cheekie, “Persuing women based on looks alone comes at a premium. smh” Yep.

          My only gripe is that most cats that does this wanna play the “victim” role after it’s all said and done. Bitchassness.

        • i know it’s besides the point.. but i promise i have one..
          i once read this article with Meryl Streep (or some other good actress).. and she said that she had her Oscar on her mantel.. then looked at it and the gold was coming off.. she said she laughs at it because it’s just a testament to how things are.. once you peel the gold away, there really is nothing of value underneath..
          same for them gals you were talkin about..
          i got in the deep end a little more than i wanted to…

  30. Normally I don’t rejoice in other folks failures, or even root for them. Now in sports you have your teams etc that you want to win, some players and teams, you simply don’t like. *Orange Shrug*

    In life in general, folk can be so mean, spiteful and hateful to people that don’t even know. because they feel threatened or whateva, not confident in themselves etc. some act as if you owe them something, your friendship etc or you should somehow downplay yourself or appologize for being yourself confidently…some folks are crazy as bat sh*t.

    I don’t take joy in other folks pain mainly because I know pain so intimately myself which allows me to emphathize and overstand alot of folks situations and motivations, this still doesn’t excuse the haterisms and bs folk often project onto others because of their own issues.

    • “I don’t take joy in other folks pain mainly because I know pain so intimately myself which allows me to emphathize and overstand alot of folks situations and motivations, this still doesn’t excuse the haterisms and bs folk often project onto others because of their own issues”

      what flavor of punch do you buy when you need somewhere to place turds? peach? raspberry? red? i’m curious.

  31. Is it wrong that I am patiently waiting for Bristol Palin to A) get pregnant again, 2) be found to be John Edwards’ other mistress or D) get caught Marion Barry style while blessing the mic? I’m insulted that this bish is getting a speaking fee to talk to kids about abstinence and has the nerve to say that she’s never gonna have sex again until she’s married. Bish please!! YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE!! You can’t unring a bell. That ship has sailed!!

    • @Yonnie 3000,

      Real talk, I was waiting for Bristol’s baby to be black, LMAO! All that runnin’ around with Levi…..I was just waiting for a brown baby to pop out. But thank goodness she is NOT raising a black child.

    • You know what, I think I want all those high morals, preaching folks to be found in some stupid compromising situations… just for the sake of laughter.

      I was so happy when Bill O’Reilly had that scandal with one of his employees or something of that vein…

    • “There’s a scene in Spiderman 3 where Eddie Brock is in a church praying, asking God to kill Spiderman/Peter Parker…”

      K, after God “kills” Kobe, can you ask him to “kill” any memory of Spiderman 3? Thanksabunch!

      • K, after God “kills” Kobe, can you ask him to “kill” any memory of Spiderman 3? Thanksabunch!

        Co-sign. There is a reason why I don’t have a copy of it.

          • Yeah, I’m serious. I own the first two but not that one. It could have been so much better. And the damn costume was supposed to be all black. Not gray/black. BLACK! But 2 out of 3 ain’t bad. #nomeatloaf

          • “But 2 out of 3 ain’t bad. #nomeatloaf”

            Okay…Meatloaf?!?!? hahah I totally remember that song.
            Hilarity.

          • @miss t-lee,

            LOL I knew someone would catch that. When it comes to music, I can pull stuff from anywhere.

  32. e) they actually were in direct competition with you….a long, long time ago

    Back in high school, I was involved in everything (Academic Clubs, Student Council, Pageants, Etc.). I got along with pretty much everyone (real talk…student body, faculty, janitors, etc.). I was on the court every year and won homecoming queen in my senior year. There was this one girl (lets call her Michelle) who participating in most of the same events that I did. However, I would end up either placing higher than her or winning. Everytime someone said congratulations to me she would be standing by shooting dirty looks and/or telling people that I wasn’t “all that”. When yearbook photos came out (she was on the committee) somehow some of the most important photos of me have Michelle somewhere in it (some pics made it seem like we were best friends). o__O I’m sure she rejoiced in some of the failures I had back then; and I for damn sure loved beating her!

  33. I am a Kobe fan. I am a Yankees fan. However, I’m not a Cowboys fan. (You’ve got to draw the line somewhere.)

    Now, I don’t care for Lebron, but that doesn’t mean I’m ignorant to his exceptional basketball skills. I don’t root for Lebron to lose, but instead I point out why he doesn’t or hasn’t won a championship. Rooting for someone to lose is pointless and quite frankly gives them more power. And if you really hate someone, the worst thing you could do is make them more powerful.

    The reality of it is, that we all root for someone to fail when they do in fact have some sort of power and attention – even if it deserved. (Which I believe is the case here.)

  34. Really no one has mentioned Soulja Boy? Is he an unspoken fail or have people just forgot how he is the root of all evil. I personally blame him for all problems since his birth from Booty Pops to that gosh durn Ricky Bobby dance to the Clinton-Monica Lewinsky scandal. Some one maim him or at least throw a book in his path to leave him stunned, dazed, and confused for a few years (or decades) before he effs up hip-hop and the world for good. (Namely teaming up with Silkk the Shocker to do a song with Tupac)

  35. Though this may or may not have anything to do with his hoopin’ skills, I’d saw the LA Times photoshoot was a mighty morphin’ FAIL for Mr. Bryant. ESPECIALLY after they said it was inspired by Tupac. The frick?!

    “also, can you name anyone who inspires this type of feeling in you?”

    Panama Jackson.

  36. Oh boy…here we go…

    I’ve spent a lot of time trying to understand the psychosis of these people. I’ve posted on my FB a question and this is how it went. “Ok, my Lakers fan, really, for real and not being a fan, but do you really think they are going to take it all this year?”

    I’ve been called a hater from Cali all the way to Baltimore…just for asking a question. As a LBJ fan, I cannot even acknowledge the fact that he is the MVPX2 without being called a Lakers hater. So my beef isn’t even with Kobe. Yes he did what he did, but at least no other women came out the woodwork saying they’ve effed him…Tiger and Shaq and many others.

    Kobe is great at what he does. What is sooooo wrong with saying LBJ is great? The Lakers fans act like the Lakers are paying their bills. Their arugment is LJB doesn’t have a ring and without a ring, his career won’t be validated. He won’t even been inducted into the Hall of Fame.

    Really? Are you for real?? I’m a girl and I wouldn’t say anything THAT stupid. I mean, even LUKE WALTON has a ring. At that point, the arugment doesn’t apply.

    My beef is not with Kobe. My beef is with Lakers fans that cannot handle the fact that Kobe has 4 rings (3 thanks to an awesome team SN: we would not be having this conversation had Kobe not been traded to LA, and 1 thanks to KG being out of the Playoffs…just saying) and Sportscenter can only focus on LeBron. It is not his fault that America is more interested in his next move. It kills them to see him everywhere…without a ring. My beef is with Lakers fans that are still sooooo cocky. I have a special place in my heart for Derek (Arkansas native) and Shannon (he seems like a cute puppy dog). So I want them to do well…but it did tickle me to see the THUNDER giving them a run for their money. FB was quiet those days….

  37. Pretty funny Champ…pretty funny. I believe you are one of millions of Kobe haters. I believe my reason, and alot of other peoples, for not supporting the Lakers is that I love the underdog. I tend to root for whoever is playing against them, unless of course it’s the Clippers cuz then…well…what’s the point???

    Basically I want someone else to have a chance at a championship ring.

  38. I agree wholeheartedly with this list, and I’m glad you used Kobe as an example! I am no fan of Kobe’s either. Not because I’m delusional and think he sucks as a baller… because he doesn’t. He’s an amazing baller, to say the least. But I dislike what he represents–the people who blindly follow riding on his left nut, who would go out and buy a purple tiger if Kobe said to.

    I’ve been called a hater as well. *shrugs* Oh well. This list clears that problem up :) And yes, I do know someone whose personal failure would make my sun shine a little brighter… not because I wish failure on people, but because I also hate what this person represents. Hey, we’re all human.

  39. @Wu Young Agent of M.E.

    “b) they represent something you despise
    All of the following people represent something I despise; fakeness. In this case they have an unreal image or “media machine” backing their public persona when they actually are just turds. ”

    –my thoughts exactly. No matter how successful you are, how idolized you are, a fake bitch is a fake bitch. And I don’t like fake bitches. (I like to think I’m a little bit more real for even saying that. Fake bitches. There. Gained another point.)

    • Spencer Pratt is so cheesy but he’s kind of funny to be honest. I can’t stand his stupid sister. His little wife Heidi has major issues smh. The only hope he has for sanity is Brody, sadly.

    • and the thing that scares me (other than admitting i catch this show) is that he ACTUALLY believes that he’s sane!!! he REALLY is!! it’s just like that Kelly b*tch from Real Housewives..
      they make all the other people wonder what Matrix they’re in…

      • And it’s so obvious that The Hills is scripted. I really think it’s time to let it go & end that show. The City is better.

        & since we’re talking about The City…I cannot stand Olivia and her ‘I’m better than everyone because I have money’ attitude. somebody needs to put her in he place quick!

        • I hate how she’s like “I’m not engaging in this conversation” whenever someone (rightfully) confronts her. She’s not one for humility, I see…

          • I used to hate The City because Whitney is so boring and seems too soft to be in the cuthroat fashion industry. She always looks like she’s about to cry the poor thing. lol. Olivia is the definition of bitch and I agree somewhat of a coward because she can’t handle being confronted about her wrong doing. She needs a real sista to handle her. The petty drama keeps me on the edge when I’m real bored though lol. If it were a black show, furniture would have BEEN movin a long time ago smh

          • I know right, It WAS kinda boring the first season but it’s getting better & better. Maybe next season they WILL add a sista to spice things up, but I won’t hold my breath. I love Kelli Catrone. (sp) That women is too funny to me & I love how she has Whits back!

          • Yeah, Kelly Cutrone is my best friend in my head. I loved her quote about fashion shows. And I paraphrase:

            “You spend weeks and weeks preparing for it and then the actual show is, like, 12 minutes. It’s like a bad f*ck”.

            *DEATH*

          • @Cheekie and TheOpinionated1: yea, she’s our girl (Kelly). At first I wanted her to fail when she first appeared on The Hills (looking crazy but telling everyone else what’s wrong but that’s the industry for ya. I digress) but she keeps those chicks in check! I like her too. She keeps me watching too.

  40. My very short list:

    My disclaimer – These individuals listed below are gifted and talented at what they do, and most certainly deserve the success they have each attained through their dedication and hard work. With that said…….

    Beyonce – Not sure what it is exactly, but there is just something about this young woman that just rubs me the wrong way. Even during the Destiny Child days, but moreso as her solo career blossomed. She just urks the sh*t out of me and I cannot stand any of her music. Not one song.

    Floyd Mayweather – He needs to be humbled, therefore he must lose and SOON. Much like Roy Jones Jr(right before his boxing career took a nose dive). Now I dont want Mayweather’s career to tank, but the brother just needs a chin check. *Sugar Shane, you straight staggered his @ss in the first two, and had Mayweather looking more like he “MayWellNeedSomeAssistance” finding his corner at the end of the round. Then you just went to sleep for the remainder of the fight. Why? Whyyy?* *sigh* :-(

    Jay-Z – See Beyonce (in addition to his overt displays of his allegiance to his unGodly affiliations/brotherhood).

    Jay-Z’s Stans – Yeah, all of ya’ll too. Can’t stand ya’ll blind fanaticism. Just FAIL, all of you.

    Cyclops from X-Men – Just never liked his rigid, cornball @ss.

    Thats all I can think of right now.

      • I see your Cyclops and raise you a Jean Grey. She was hella needy, with her Sybil split personality to become destructive Phoenix. I also didn’t like how she strung along Wolverine and Scott. That’s why I like the fact that Emma Frost let Jean know Scott wasn’t chopped liver.

        • “I see your Cyclops and raise you a Jean Grey. ”

          Yeah, I’mma need you to be my e-bff given your record on here lately. I’ve NEVER liked her. She was overhyped and her powers weren’t even creative and all that superheromutant-like. Telekinesis? There are folks in India doin’ that ish. lol

          Yeah, she was hella powerful as Phoenix, but whatthehellevah. I didn’t like how she strung along Cyclops and Wolverine either. Besides I shipped Wolverine with Storm. ;)

          • @Cheekie

            “There are folks in India doin’ that ish. lol”
            Lmao! So do we need to keep and eye India or something because if anything would further destablize that part of the world telekinetic Indians would.

            “Besides I shipped Wolverine with Storm.”
            That would have made sense but everyone that Logan loves dies. Can’t kill Stormy off. The Mexican/black chick that he’s involved with isn’t long for their world.

          • @Wu Young Agent of M.E.,

            I liked that issue of Wolverine. It’s like he went to every woman he was ever close to, Storm, Jubilee, Black Widow, and all of them knew that he had a new girlfriend just by the way he was acting. I like the idea of a normal woman that is ballsy enough to be with Wolverine.

          • @ComicBookGuy

            The guy at the comic store I go to said they should do a one shot starring Kitty, Jubilee (who really should be used mored) and X-23. The basis of it would be Kitty and Jubes telling 23 how to be his partner and making her listen to them.

    • Cyclops from X-Men – Just never liked his rigid, cornball @ss.

      I used to hate Cyclops for being such a tight @$$ all the time. In the comics nowadays, he is like a badass. Him and Wolverine still go at it but now Wolverine actually respects him a little bit more he pulls no punches. He has Wolverine and some other X-Men acting like his underground hit squad that kills anyone that tries to anything against mutants. It’s good to see him not be a goody two shoes.

    • I have a friend who reminds me of Cyclops. He left me and an injured friend at the club like Cyclops left Beast and Morph to die when they raided The MRD. I never let him live that down.

    • Cyclops from X-Men – Just never liked his rigid, cornball @ss.

      Eveyone hates Scott Summers. When he found out Wolverine kept a lock of Jean’s hair after she died was priceless. Creepy, but priceless.

      I never like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne either.

      • @Wu Young Agent of M.E.,

        See DC’s animated “Crisis on Two Earth’s”. On another Earth, Bats has to face another version of himself that has the same intellect and skill but is a psychopath. It’s interesting. Plus, the fact that he’s an Owl-Man (the psychopathic Batman) made me think of “Watchmen” the entire time.

      • I never like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne either.

        Does anybody like rich, smart 2520s that get all the chicks?

        • I have always been a Tony Stark fan. I do not like Bruce Wayne much, and borderline hate him since watching those horrible Nolan Batman films.

          • The fact that someone else appreciates the greatness of Alex Ross keeps me coming back to this blog. I used to keep that picture of Batman on my wall in high school. That is an excellent picture.

        • I like Tony Stark… He’s condescending and annoyingly human. It makes him endearing. And he’s one of the most lighthearted hero there is…

          Bruce Wayne on the other hand, I am bit conflicted about. While I love his conflicted self, I sometimes think he veers way too far and way too often to the dark side… which also makes him human but a bit too intense…

          I would love to read this Crisis on Two Earths… The psychology of Comics characters should really be a liberal arts major or something… :)

          • You ought to check out “JLA: Earth 2″, which is what Crisis on Two Earths is based off of. Also, if you like Tony Stark, check out Iron Man: Demon In A Bottle. It will really show you how human he is and see that he really has an alcohol problem.

          • @legitimate_soul,

            I saw the Jonah Hex trailers as well… Hmmmm! Cannot wait.
            (that was when I went to see The Losers… really great movie. Casting was awesome! Check it out if you didn’t)

            @ComicBookGuy,

            Will definitely look into it… I think my sympathy/liking of Tony Starks may come from the fact that we somewhat share “weaknesses”…. :)

          • @Sula,

            Demon In A Bottle is a great read, one of the 100 greatest comic stories ever written. The Iron Man movies gave a glimpse of it a little. I need to see the Losers, but I am reading the comic right now and it is good.

    • Jay-Z – …his overt displays of his allegiance to his unGodly affiliations/brotherhood.

      This was a joke, right? I didn’t think sane people actually believed this. So either you’re joking, or not sane.

    • Sooo is C the reason that people hate DUKE so much?
      ?
      i hate dook because i was born and raised in north carolina, by a bunch of tarheels. i spent four of the most formative years of my life in chapel hill. but i really hate dook because of what it represents…
      exhibit a, their imagined superiority and elite status: benjamin duke actually wanted to buy princeton with all of his tobacco money, but they were like, no sir, we’re not for sale. but he loved princeton so much, its picturesque campus etc. but there was this small college in lil ol durham, north carolina that his money could buy. so buy it he did. but, something wasn’t right. it didn’t look like princeton. so he had all the bricks dipped in acid so they’d have that old “worn” historic look that those at princeton did. he modeled the quad to be almost an exact replica of that of princeton’s.

      • We MUST be related.

        I’m from NC as well. I lived in PA for about 4 years after college. People up there did NOT understand how deep my hatred for Dook ran. They just couldn’t understand.

        Guess you gotta be a North Carolinean to get it.

      • Sooo the point of the princeton rant? We don’t deny that our campus was made to look like princeton or the story behind it nor to we (now) hide the fact that our architect was black. I’m so sad for all of you tar holes….so sadddddd!

  41. Lumping Cowboy fans in with Laker and Yankee “fans” made me not even finish the post. Cowboy fans are die-hard and knowledgeable about the game. We rep our teams in legitimately hostile territory, and have been loyal through some really tough times, like The Dave Campo-Quincy Carter Era. We get needless amount of flack from teams with “No Means Yes” QBs.

    • So good to find another real Cowboys fan. Whether they are winning or losing, they are always talked about. They sell the most jerseys, make the most money and have the most TV time because everyone watches them, whether to watch them win or to lose, they are still watching. The hate is even worse when they win. But at the same time, because I love the game of football, I don’t hate other teams and I respect other players and other teams for being good if they are good. I’ll be first to say when the Cowboys are sucking just as much as when they are winning. I give credit where credit is due.

  42. i’m with you champ. i really can’t stand kobe or the lakers but really kobe. his cocky attitude. the snitching on shaq. the rape. his faux fashion shoot he did a couple weeks ago. actually i just laughed at that ish.

  43. b) they represent something you despise

    for me this applies to Nas. I despise people who don’t live up to their potential. I know EVERY SINGLE WORD (adlibs, intros included) to Illmatic and have had to witness his epic descent due to his poor selection of beats, baby moms, and wives.

    i hate him for that now. i really want him to succeed, i just feel like he never will.

    if you ain’t got it, you ain’t got it, the theory is brilliant

    • @Carver The Great

      Your comment reminds me of how Nas’s career would be dead if didn’t make Stillmatic. His pop fans left him and his fan base(people like me) were ready to leave him. I went from trying to write rhymes like him to looking at him like a total disappointment. The last straw was the video with Ginuwine “You owe me”.

    • I’m not saying this makes up for You Owe Me, but have you heard Distant Relatives? $hit’s fiyah – There are a few cuts that I skip over, but all in all, a great fantastic album.

  44. i had to sit down and think about this.. when i saw the post last night i was like “i can’t relate”.. then this morning i got up and it was like a light bulb went off in my head.. and this is what i came up with..

    i don’t like lemmings.. as stated above, there are people that LOVE athletes, singers, and others.. not for their ability.. but because everyone else does.. i cannot stand these people.. so when the object of thei idolatry (i.e. Kobe, Beyonce, etc) takes a stumble.. it’s almost like i’m screaming “SEE!!! they’re just a NORMAL PERSON!!! they’re nothing special!!” etc..
    how many times did i watch that video of Beyonce trippin down the steps.. it’s like i needed her to be humbled a little bit.. just to take her down a peg.. as if i don’t have to see her on every magazine cover, and hear about her wardrobe.. i need her to show everyone that she’s not superhuman..
    i’m trying to keep everyone humble.. and it’s like the majority won’t let me..
    this is also the excuse i use when i see more than one movie in a day.. knowing i only paid $6 cuz i got there before noon..
    “i’m keeping the actors humble”..
    it seems like a good one to me…

  45. Common fans post “One Day It’ll All Make Sense”

    Jay-Z fans post “In My Lifetime Vol. 1″

    2Pac fans post “Strictly For My Ninjas”

  46. T-Pain

    I hate him and that stupid vocoder he made so popular

    I hate his stupid School House Rock rhyming a$$ songs

    I hate the fact that they are catching

    I hate the way he dresses and how he thinks he can dance.

    I hope he fails…I’m so happy he’s not in the spotlight right now. I hope it stays that way. I hope to see him working at a Waffle House down in Florida along the interstate somewhere. I actually caught hella flack from some dumb broad from Louisiana b/c I said I wished he’d die. I think the world would be just fine…if not better without the likes of him.

    • I hate him and that stupid vocoder he made so popular

      Yes, this is probably the main reason I hate him with a passion too. I can’t stand autotune, and he is the reason that this god awful trend became acceptable in music.

    • I haven’t heard a lot from T-Pain lately. I am perfectly fine with that.

      Hey, I have to thank you for putting me on that O’Jays song. It is now one of my favorites. That song is real, very real. They don’t write music like that nowadays. If somebody is going to cheat in a song, let it be low key and dangerous, not all out there. I ended up downloading the instrumental of Keep It Hood and it made me appreciate the O’Jays even more and also how DJ Paul and Juicy J killed that beat. You were right about Misdemeanor. That guy singing it did remind me of a young Mike.

      • @ComicBookGuy

        You’re welcome bud! And I agree…those cheating songs back in the day were very reall…full of emotion mayne (that’s my overall “issue” w/ music now a days..not enough emotion). Another good one…”Kiss and Say Goodbye” by The Manhattans.

        Foster Sylvers def sounded like a young MJ…sh!t is crazy! The only thing that gave it away was the background vocals. OOOOOH, you reminded me…I was driving yesterday and heard what I thought was going to be Rich Boy’s “Throw Some D’s” but it was actually the song he sampled. Gotta look that up.

        • “Foster Sylvers def sounded like a young MJ…sh!t is crazy!”

          Have you heard his latest claim to fame?
          *snickering*

        • “I Call Your Name” by Switch, which had Bobby DeBarge, the eldest DeBarge brother, singing the lead. Very good song.

          “Kiss and Say Goodbye” is a great song.

          • @LaBakir,

            Not a problem, my dear. Switch had some good songs back in the day. Speaking of Throw Some D’s, I stop listening to the remix after Andre’s verse. They should have put him on last. Boys are going to understand that you don’t put 3000 first on your track. He kills it.

        • I was driving yesterday and heard what I thought was going to be Rich Boy’s “Throw Some D’s” but it was actually the song he sampled. Gotta look that up

          For what it’s worth, I gotta give Polow Da Don credit…he took one of the softest, sappiest songs of the 80′s (voiced by a Debarge, no less) and turned it into one of the hardest-sounding, bumpingest tracks I’ve heard in a while…as an analogy, it would be like a boxing trainer transforming Rupaul into the next B. Hopkins…lol

          • That is probably the funniest analogy I have heard in a long time. That is true about that beat. That is a sappy love song and Polow straight flipped it.

        • *Don’t know why this would be in moderation….daah well.

          For what it’s worth, I gotta give Polow Da Don credit…he took one of the softest, sappiest songs of the 80’s (voiced by a Debarge, no less) and turned it into one of the hardest-sounding, bumpingest tracks I’ve heard in a while…as an analogy, it would be like a boxing trainer transforming Rupaul into the next B. Hopkins…lol

  47. Proud Laker Stan/ Cowboy Stan:

    Hates and despised ALL THINGS Celtics, Lebrick James and his overrated Fandom,Eagles(beagles), Redskins(Deadskins),Giants(G-women), or any SUCKAS who hate on GREATNESS. Get used to Kobe bussing that ARSE when facing the Celtics in the Finals because you best believe Phil will remind the troops of the debacle of two years ago when the team was put together. The Master Motivator(PhIl) will cause a shyt storm in Boston and I cant wait……PAYBACK IS A BEEEYOOOTCH!!!!!

    • Proud Laker Stan/ Cowboy Stan:

      How can that even be? You obviously have to live in or be from one of those cities… but you can’t be in/from both at the same time, now can you?

      I think this is called something else around these parts. ;)

      • Lived and worked in both. Live in Atlanta now…by the way I dont have to be from that city to root for them. Just like you probably root for EVERY team that faces my juggernauts Im certain you are not from EACH of those cities either. Try again Sula! Back to Loserville you go or whatever team is playing agaisnt the reigning World Champs…GTFOH!

  48. People I want to fail:
    Sarah Palin: How can someone go to five colleges in six years to get a degree in journalism, and think she is intellectually superior to a Harvard Law grad? (Side note: not only did she lose to the first black president, she lost to the first black Miss Alaska. Ouch) Also, Bristol is making $30K per speech on abstinence. You read that correctly. (Another side note, Levi Johnston is part Mexican. Double ouch.)
    The Kardashians: Nothing personal, but what do they do? I remember seeing a commercial for the show, when Khloe was yelling at her mom for focusing on Kim and not helping her with her “career.” Doing what? This isn’t like Tito Jackson complaining that Michael was getting all the attention. At least Tito has talent that justifies a career. On that note, I vote for Jermaine Jackson’s hairline to fail. We have too many problems with oil spills.
    Jessica Simpson: What does she do???
    Jennifer Aniston: She is among the highest paid actresses in Hollywood, even though her movies consistently bomb.
    The Yankees, specifically A-Rod: I was pro A-Rod until the steroids. Call me naïve, but I thought her was one of the few honest ones.

    But after seeing Kobe dresses like a transgendered supervillain, I’m over the hate.

    • “But after seeing Kobe dresses like a transgendered supervillain, I’m over the hate.”

      *snickering*
      This is THEE best description of those pictures.
      Great job! *2 thumbs up*

    • @I Am Your People

      On that note, I vote for Jermaine Jackson’s hairline to fail. We have too many problems with oil spills.

      LMAO!!!

      and c/s everything about Aniston, Simpson, and Kardashian’s

    • @I Am Your People,

      “The Kardashians: Nothing personal, but what do they do?”

      Part their hair down the middle, follow their sister Kim (who’s “famous” for being a white girl w/ass-inspiring other ones to go under the knife and part their hair down the middle- who prefers for black men to wax dat and has the infamous sex tape with that loser Ray J), and display how crazy they really are seeking a reason to be relevant.

      Geez, has any modern day good pro baseball player been honest? I really don’t know since I don’t follow sports. Call me racist but those Dominicans can play some baseball! and for alot of them, that’s their main motivation to come to America: to make it to the pros. I don’t blame you for thinking he’d be honest. They always blame “pressure” for using drugs to boost their performances lol & smh

  49. Champ, you and I are a lot alike in our dislike for Kobe. F*ck Kobe.

    Aside from the fact that I think he’s overrated, I don’t even think he is the best player from his draft class (for example in ’96, if oh say Ray Allen gets picked by the Lakers, Ray Allen and Shaq probably stack up 5 or 6 titles, and if Kobe gets picked up by NJ he’s…well, Kerry Kittles. Actually, I’ll give him more credit than that…he’d be Mitch Richmond), so he damn sure isn’t the best player in the world. But bigger than that, I think he’s an outright b*tchazzninja. He’s the anti-downazzninja. He seems like the type of hypocritical snitch ninja that would leak to the media that you’re steppin’ out on your woman.

    Oh wait, he DID do that :-/

    I wish I knew him personally so that I could tell him daily, “You know, Kobs…you’re never going to be better than Mike nor leave the kind of legacy behind that he did).

    c) You can add Duke Basketball stans to that list as well.

    b) Also, the best hip hop intro track by far is on DMX’s “It’s Dark and Hell Hot”

      • He was one of the best players of his era. He killed for Golden State his first few season and after he got traded, he put the Kings on the map.

        Think of all the Jordan era players that never got the attention they deserved b/c of MJ, man. He shadowed a lot of talent. Guess that’s the benefits of being the Don.

    • This comment had me DYIN!!! First time I ever commented on here after reading for at least a year or more. Another GREAT read and again, best comment I read so far!!!

    • b) Also, the best hip hop intro track by far is on DMX’s “It’s Dark and Hell Hot”

      “Dog! That’s my mans and dem.”

      • “One two one two, come thru run thru / Gun who? / Oh you don’t know what the gun do…”

        That was my sh!t!

  50. @MzAnon — omg, Gucci Mane is another one and his fans. ugh! Disgusting!

    Lol! I have to admit Gucci is my guilty pleasure. I even asked my daughter if she would go to a Gucci Mane concert with me. Uh…yeah.

    That said, my glutes and gluteus maximus have become more toned since Gucci came on the scene with all c**chie popping, dropping it like its hot that I’ve been doing.

    • “Lol! I have to admit Gucci is my guilty pleasure.”

      Mine too. I am not ashamed.
      I love silly music with a hot beat to get dumb too.

  51. As far as music….
    I HATE DJ Khaled. ‘we da best’ my azz. His shyt is wack, corny, repetitive
    Nicki Minaj…next
    Wacka Flacka…I still have not established who/what a wacka flacka is
    Any dude that think its ok to arch their eyebrows or where nugget huggers (skinny jeans)
    Trey Songz….i’m sorry…I don’t get it. If I hear one more sex song from him….
    Drake….droopy’s offspring is overrated to me

    • @Humble_One

      Geezus Krist of Latter Day Saints! How could I forget about this corn husk?! I’d like to through his co-host Rocsi in for good measure. Everytime I see her, I can’t help thing of that girl Muppet w/ the heavy eye shadow and blonde hair.

      • I don’t really have a problem with Terrence. He just seems like a dork with good intentions. He’s not out to hurt of offend anybody but Rosci is kind of annoying. Why is she there? It seems like she always wants to get it over with and get out of the place. She comes off as fake alot of times and her voice get naggy after 5 words. They are the reason I don’t watch 106 anymore. The videos they play today don’t make it any better though. I actually wish they find something better than today’s wack ass BET, I don’t wish failure for them, they need motivation.

      • @LaBakir

        “Everytime I see her, I can’t help thing of that girl Muppet w/ the heavy eye shadow and blonde hair.”

        Are you talking about New York from Flavor of Love?

      • Everytime I see her, I can’t help thing of that girl Muppet w/ the heavy eye shadow and blonde hair.

        Hilarious….you a fool for this one right here…

  52. @ Yonnie 3000

    “Jay-Z – …his overt displays of his allegiance to his unGodly affiliations/brotherhood.

    This was a joke, right? I didn’t think sane people actually believed this. So either you’re joking, or not sane.”

    You know, thats interesting. The same thing was said about a certain man who proclaimed the world was actually spheric, despite the general populus loyally believing otherwise. I’m sure everyone laughed their lilly 2520 @sses off at his insane “the world is actually round” comedy. From what I hear, he was a riot.

    • Jay Z & Diddy (especially) are def on some other sh*t. The only difference is that Diddy is always talking about God (wow) and Jay Z “secretly” hates Him and wants to be Him (smh)

  53. @I Am Your People-

    I agree, I need Mimi’s Spanx to fail…as well as her love of wearing clothes from Rainbow.

    I aint liked her since she tried to rationalize why she lied about being biracial.

  54. I knew I was forgetting someone……

    CAMRON – Got damn, I cant stand this mofo. Talentless. Unclever. Pioneer of the most horribly ackward rhyme scheme ever. Wears pink? Matter of fact, that whole Dipsh*t, I mean Dipset crew needs to fail mercilessly. Especially Jim Jones -aka- the metros*xual fashonista superthug. What the hell is all that about?

  55. I tried to restrain myself but y’all had me on the floor – I had to send this to my Laker-lovin’ bro – I’m sure he will have some erudite missive in response. I’m trying to be a better person, but ya’ll aint helpin.

  56. Can’t stand the Lakers, love seeing them fall in the few instances they do. Kobe is arrogant, the whole team & all their fans are arrogant. & when Kobe plays dirty the refs suddenly go blind & never see a thing. You know who I’m rooting for this year? Whoever can take the Lakers OUT. I want Kobe’s last ring to BE his LAST ring – they act like they’re owed it, it’s so annoying. Plus their colors are ugly & nobody is cute on that team (LOL!). & Gasol hurts my eyes. There’s just so many reasons to hate them… & I do :)

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