kobe and me: why we root for people to fail

from his tendency to pout and throw visible temper tantrums to the fact that i think he’s legitimately certifiable (regardless of whether you think he should have been convicted of rape, you have to admit it’s nucking futs to try to have raw anal sex with someone you’ve never even met before), i have many good reasons to not be a big fan of kobe bryant.

this fact by itself isn’t ground-breaking. there are many people, from certain neighbors and baristas to r. kelly fans and people who act like they’re from harlem¹, that i’m not particularly fond of. this doesn’t necessarily mean that i dislike them; i just regard them with a bit of a “we don’t really need to share the same space” apathy. basically, i’d (probably) call for help if i witnessed them being mugged, but i’d also (probably) lie if the police asked me to provide a description of the mugger.

what makes my feelings for kobe notable is the fact that i actively root for him to fail. when i watch the lakers play, i want him to freeze out his teammates and inspire 5,000 “when will kobe finally get it?” articles the next day. i want whoever he’s guarding to score on him. i want him to force phil jackson to make phil jackson faces, and i want him to give charles barkley acid reflux. i want them to beat phoenix, just because i know that a loss to the celtics in the finals would be more devastating.

don’t get me wrong. this isn’t an iago/othello or stringer/omar level of distaste. i won’t lose any sleep if the lakers win the title, and i don’t wish any non-basketball adversity on kobe.

usually feelings like this are dismissed as “hating”, but there’s nothing about kobe that makes him more enviable than a hundred other millionaire superstar athletes. i think kobe’s status and success is well-deserved and appropriate. i just don’t want him to succeed on the basketball court.

this type of personal animus isn’t uncommon. the hundreds of thousands of blogs, articles, facebook status messages, and tweets clowning lebron james in the past two weeks proves that. in fact, i’d wager that everyone reading this has a person in mind whose failure would make the sun shine a little bit brighter that day.

what i’ve been trying to understand is why? what makes us derive happiness from the pain of others, even if their success (or lack thereof) has no real bearing on us or our lives?

the easy reason is that it makes you feel better about yourself, but i think it goes a bit deeper than that.

a) you perceive them to be in direct competition with someone you support

this actually gives a valid explanation for my feelings about kobe. for the past three years or so he’s been locked in a mythical death match with lebron james for the “best baller on earth” title. and, as a lebron james fan, any success kobe has is a mark against lebron’s candidacy. if he “wins”, the person i’ve been supporting “loses”, and i’ve come to realize that my particular form of kobeanimus stems from me just not wanting to be wrong².

b) they represent something you despise

a great recent example of this theory in action is the 2007 kanye west/50 cent soundscan battle. if you recall, 50 challenged kanye to a “who will sell the most records the first week” contest, and even stated that he’d retire from the rap game if he lost.

now, i don’t dislike 50 cent’s music. i actually think that “what up gangsta” is the best album intro song in hip-hop history, and i can honestly say that i’m convinced that 50 would be cooler in person than kanye.

but, the fact that i despise what the idea of 50 cent represents made me root for his spectacular failure. it wasn’t enough for kanye to win; i wanted 50 to be humbled and embarrassed.

c) you don’t actually dislike them that much. you just root against them because you hate the type of people who blindly support them

***anyone who’s ever been forced to converse with any laker, yankee, or cowboy fans, beyonce stans, members of the pandering patchouli and incense crowd, tea baggers, and anyone who’s ever defended a bush is nodding their heads in silent agreement***

d) they’re asking for it

admittedly, i can understand why so many people seemed to be so happy about lebron’s recent playoff mishaps. if you allow yourself to be referred to as “the king“, you leave yourself open for criticism.

e) they actually were in direct competition with you….a long, long time ago

this sounds like its too silly to actually be true…until you remember than you can probably name at least five or six people in your address book who still hold serious grudges with people over not being voted the junior homecoming queen in 1999.

anyway, people of vsb.com: can you add any more insight? why do you think we root for others to fail, even if that other might not even know that we exist? also, can you name anyone who inspires this type of feeling in you?

we’re all fam and sh*t. don’t be scurred

¹this doesn’t mean that i dislike people from harlem, just people who act “harlem”. in fact, you don’t even have to be from harlem to act harlem. this makes perfect sense to me, so i really don’t care if it makes sense to you.
²i’ve also come to realize that this idiotic kobeanimus makes me sound like a 14 year white kid from poughkeepsie, new york, and i’m trying to make amends to rectify it.

—the champ

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  • MzAnon formerly Anonymous

    uh oh. Here come the haters. I only root for success… well maybe unless they are straight up villains and have played people, not just to get to the top but for the hell of it. Okay I said it. Triflin arse cowardly people: FAIL, die, FAIL! That is all.

    • MzAnon

      One more thing: Sara Palin! Fail bish! FAIL! She needs to sit her hoe ass down and be a granny instead of grabbing every bit of publicity she can. I really do hate Sara Palin. No success for her.

      • MzAnon

        My inner hater won’t quit tonight. Sorry yall. Let’s add Jesse James(Sandra Bullock’s ex husband. What a loser) and Arizona to my list. Don’t be puttin down the Brown people! Arizona’s gov suck big whale balls. They’re number one on that list right now.

        • Intelligentleman

          F*ck Arizona too.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      lol, this entire thread is hilarious. its like you couldn’t control yourself

      • http://www.pinchmycheekie.blogspot.com Cheekie

        Yeah this thread made me giggle, too.

        I mean, not “too”. Not to say you giggled, Champie. Because that would be 89% gay.

    • CNotes

      @MzAnon

      LOL!! I’m with Champ. How do you go from providing warnings to all that haters are approaching to: FAIL, die, FAIL???!!!!! LMAO!!!!!

      • MzAnon

        @ CNotes: LOL I know I was wrong for that. I typed as I was thinking and went on emotion. The hater approach is what I felt, at first. Like The Champ said, I couldn’t control myself. My inner deep hater definitely came out. LOL

        • CNotes

          @MzAnon

          I think that is what made it funny. You had intentions, but then emotion came in. : )

  • knightnick

    @The Champ,
    I am a Laker fan, I am a Kobe fan, so of course I blindly love and support Kobe Bryant and the Los Angeles Lakers, no funny business. I appreciate you explaining your previously unexplained hate of Kobe Bryant. I agree with a lot of your reasoning, some of them are the very same reasons I dislike Lebron, Shaq, Phil Mickelson, and various others.
    P.S.- Lakers are about to win this championship.

    • MzAnon

      @knightnick I know some women who are still mad about his affair so they hate the mention of his name LOL. Sad and stupid. On the flip side, I know some hard core Kobe fans so they ain’t goin nowhwere. He always has support. I should add that in the post I can relate to the Kanye/50 record sells competition (wanting Kanye to win which he did, and for the same reasons) but Champ c’mon does that really count? That was all in fun. Even though 50 came out as the loser and was the one talkin all that sh*t, his album was a success (only in numbers not music but still)

      • legitimate_soul

        “I know some women who are still mad about his affair so they hate the mention of his name LOL. ”

        ^Yup. It kills me because the same folks that dislike this about Kobe love Shaq and Shaq done rant (yes, rant) through hella broads. He rant through Supahead and brought that taint to his wife and kids. Then he on tape freestylin’ asking Kobe “How does my a** taste”? Well, Shaq how does half the groupie population taste?… cause you done sampled it.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          ^Yup. It kills me because the same folks that dislike this about Kobe love Shaq and Shaq done rant (yes, rant) through hella broads. He rant through Supahead and brought that taint to his wife and kids. Then he on tape freestylin’ asking Kobe “How does my a** taste”? Well, Shaq how does half the groupie population taste?… cause you done sampled it”

          this is very true. i think what does kobe in is the fact that he just doesn’t seem like a guy you’d actually want to be around. his “unlikeability” has always turned people off, even before he became a superstar.

          whats funny about that is the fact that he might actually be a good dude in person. but, in this case, perception matters.

          • MzAnon

            Yep. I’m not even into basketball but I remember when he was a rookie and people loved to hate him from the jump calling him a ball hog and what not. But he still had his following too and only grabbed up more even with the stupid sh*t that he’s done and said along the way. I don’t know what kind of force he has on these people, or maybe I should stop to actually watch the game to try to understand it. idk

  • http://bourgieinterrupted.com Kia, JD

    I’m a grown ass Black woman from Poughkeepsie, NY and um, yeah. LOL.
    Sometimes it’s theraputic to “hate.” I pray for the failure of Dook’s Coach K daily (nah sike, I don’t pray. but if I did, that’s what’d I’d ask for). While I respected his game, I can’t tell you how many times I wished a tragic accident would befall JJ Reddick. I’m a Tar Heel… it’s the rule.

    • P.

      Do I respect Coach K? Yes. He’s a pretty good coach and an unparalleled motivator.

      Do I put him one rung above Satan on my list of things that humanity needs to rid itself of? Yes.

      • Capricorn

        I so totally agree with this.
        *is also a Tar Heel*

    • Intelligentleman

      F*ck Coach K, Duke, and Durham, NC.

      Taarrrrrrrrr!

      • a plus

        Heeeeeels!

    • a plus

      I pray for the failure of Dook’s Coach K daily…I’m a Tar Heel… it’s the rule.

      I need this on a bumper sticker or t-shirt!!

  • http://silverdragonspeaks.wordpress.com/ Stolid Charisma

    Damn you 50 cent haters!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      welcome and sh*t.

      damn deez, btw

    • http://www.pinchmycheekie.blogspot.com Cheekie

      “Damn you 50 cent haters!”

      I bet 50 Cent can’t say the above sentence without closed-captioning.

      • Intelligentleman

        lmao

  • JessKnowsBest

    *sigh*

    I deal with this on a daily basis.

    My boyfriend blindly STANS for any and EVERY LA team… he knows every trade… every locker room argument… everything…

    if you didnt know me youd think i was a stan too bc im starting to BREATHE random facts just from being around him :(

    problem is… I HATE [HO]BE and the [F]AKERS ….. and his undying love for them makes me hate them MORE…

    kinda makes me question his judgement and very existence sometimes.. but hey.. he DID choose me so he cant be all bad ;)

    b*tchassness personified.

    • knightnick

      Maybe you should question yourself since you are dating him, such an avid kobe lover. maybe deep down you want to be a winner, Kobe’s a winner, your boyfriend is a winner.

      • JessKnowsBest

        mighty presumptuous to assume im not already a winner?

        and why would i want a winner with paltry morals? the only place kobe has any sort of charisma/talent/intrigue is on the court (as evidenced by the FAIL of a photoshoot and his brief *thank GOD* acting stint on Moesha lmao)

        ill pass on the one dimensional negro. thx though.

    • its2010dammit

      I dislike Kobe now and have never liked him. Everything he does is an imitation of Michael Jordan. His walk, his shooting motion and his celebrations after a shot or a game. Get off of Mike’s nuts and be original! You know, like that James kid from Akron

      No Bullsh*t

      • Resident GRitS

        …co-sign. I’ve been saying this for years! The kid’s got no imagination.

    • Sula

      Jess-definitely knows best-,

      I live this situation daily… and I am appalled at how an otherwise very intelligent and decent man like him can actually support Kobe and root for the Lakers? It makes my heart bleed… but what can you do?

      Of course the matchup OKC- Lakers was hilarious around these here parts. :lol: I think I might have shed a tear when Durant fell on the ground at the end of the last game… Le sigh

      • http://www.unepetitefillenoire.blogspot.com KayBeezy

        Thunder all day and night (no Kid Cudi)
        Sorry. Just had to add this.

  • legitimate_soul

    I know folks might be mad about this but:

    GO LAKERS!!!!

    ^That isn’t blind support. That is from being a fan since I was 10 years old and even rooting for them when Sam Perkins and Elgin Campbell played for them. Plus, I was raised in the City of Angels.

    Back to the post, I can admit I have done this. Most times I am a champion of the underdog, sometimes not. I know in rap battles I was for Moe Dee over LL, well anybody over LL (even Canibus). I thought LL was cocky and an arse and I didn’t like how he did LeShaun (Doin It song). I didn’t like how he be frontin’ like he 37… o_O Plus, although he always kept in shape, me thinks he been on the growth hormone or something. His face look different. The licking of the lips is on purpose and contrived and there are other dudes who got body and can get it before he. However, I always respected a good deal of what he brought to hip hop. He has a heck of a catalog. I like LL when it’s all said and done. I like him in his most human and vulnerable moments. I am glad he is still around. Some folks I root against after a period of time, I’m cool with em’ later on. We done been through too much (fugratively) and you got staying power where you grew on me or I can atleast respect your tenacity. Yeah, this post is truth.

    • legitimate_soul

      Just to clarify: “Yeah, this post is truth.” is referencing Champ’s post, not my comment. Also, I don’t root for anyone to fail, but I deifnitely root for the other side to succeed.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Most times I am a champion of the underdog, sometimes not.”

      you know, ive found that i usually root against the underdog. i’m not a fan of “upsets”, unless its the steelers that are doing the upsetting

    • CNotes

      @legitimate_soul

      I remember the LL/Canibus battles. I was for LL because although he is cocky, he’s a likeable person (I sometimes get tired of rappers who don’t want to seem human; and LL seemed like if you met him, he would give you a hug). I knew he wasn’t as vicious and Can-I-Bus, but I wanted him to be able to back his ish up sooo badly because of all of his GOAT talk. (His over the top lip-licking is annoying and unneccessary though).

      • legitimate_soul

        @ CNotes,

        “2nd Round Knock Out” and the battle between LL and Canibus was entertaining. But then it seemed like Canibus was falling out with everyone…even folks who were on his team.

        • CNotes

          @legitimate_soul

          Uh huh! Focus was lost after that. smh

  • JessKnowsBest

    @ The Champ….

    quite a timely post as this championship may be the first major test of my relationship…. how do i balance being a supportive GF and avid kobe/laker NONfan?

    • MzAnon

      @JessKnowsBest, please don’t fight over Kobe with your boyfriend. He don’t care about yall! LOL.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “quite a timely post as this championship may be the first major test of my relationship…. how do i balance being a supportive GF and avid kobe/laker NONfan?”

      give him brain while rocking a rondo jersey

      • Naira

        This is my first time leaving a comment… I burst out laughing at this!

  • meka

    Get out of my head! Seriously, I was just chastising myself because I was felling all SCHADENFREUDE (I nominate this as the VSB word-of-the-day) about a particular person. I know it is wrong, but I don’t care.

    • legitimate_soul

      Sometimes your spirit just knows even if you don’t have a tangible reason just yet.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      Seriously, I was just chastising myself because I was felling all SCHADENFREUDE (I nominate this as the VSB word-of-the-day) about a particular person

      damn. i’m mad i didnt think of this word as a title

    • Sula

      I was feeling Schadenfreude (excellent pick!) about someone as well… for the longest… and the person seemed so sweet, I felt bad deep down… until recent developments proved beyond doubt what a stupid arsehole the person truly is… I have not felt a bit bad about all feelings of FAIL afterwards…

      Like legitimate said, your spirit knows before your conscious… Enjoy your schadenfreude (ha!) moments. :lol:

  • meka

    I’ll admit that I’ve so enjoyed Tiger Woods fall from grace. I know it’s wrong but I don’t care.

    • Tx10inch

      lmbo. For some reason, this was very funny 2 me.

    • MzAnon

      @meka LOL I actually felt bad for Tiger. That apology was even more pififul. He’s so stupid smh, it’s actually a shame. I admit I love that his wife did the hood chick move and busted his windows out. That’s the least she could have done after 15 women *shudders* ew.

    • elle

      “I’ll admit that I’ve so enjoyed Tiger Woods fall from grace.”
      cosign. (almost hoping Elgin gets her $750 mil) not really, but kinda.

    • Pretty Cute

      i agree! i hate him too!

    • miss t-lee

      Oh I thoroughly enjoyed the Tiger Woods fiasco…lol I hope Elin get the 750m, w/o the gag order though, because I’d love to hear her side.

    • Anita

      I feel you on that, I smiled everytime n*gro was humiliated am evil, but I think I hate his wife even more acting all “innocent” those two idiots deserve each other by innocent I mean pretty dumb..

    • its2010dammit

      It made me be a bigger TW fan. He took a two hour taco bell sh*t on that 2520. I always thought she was a golddigger. Now I’m sure.

      Ain’t no way she didn’t know and approve of some of his recreational activities.

      No Bullsh*t

      • Sunny

        “A two-hour Taco Bell sh*t.”
        O_o I am DONE for the day!

    • T’Lu

      Oh goodie! I thought I was the only one secretly enjoying his demise. I never liked the guy, I think he’s a sellout, and I too don’t care…

  • CO261

    Words cannot express my desire to see Tony Romo fail

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      lol, please expound.

      welcome and sh*t, btw

    • Mo

      Tom Brady…..Tim Tebow…..Brett Farve…..The State of New Jersey…I hate them all, and for the same reason! It’s not the people that I actually hate, it’s the “hype” and chatter surrounding them that I hate. I feel like Brady is a bonafide butthole, diva douchebag on the field. He acts like he can’t get hit. And the game IS all about avoiding the hit, but it’s also about how one reacts when they are hit. He’s about as girly as they come in that sense.

      The hype that surrounds some star athletes and the stupid bandwagon folks who love to love those on top make me hate those on top (in their respective positions in their career, not in life.)