Kiss Tattoos On Your Neck And More: Things That’ll Make People Think You Just Might Be Gay (NTTAWWT, Of Course)

As I write this, I have to begin by saying that I’ve never been more upset with an inanimate entity more than I currently am with NBC Sports. This anger can not be understated. I would not hesitate to spit in the nose of NBC Sports’ first born son if I was in the delivery room. I curse the day NBC Sports was born, and the day NBC Sports dies I will hire Gabby Douglas to dougie and fart on its grave. Seriously, if NBC sports was on fire and I had to pee, I’d hold that sh*t until I gave myself amoebic dysentery.

What exactly has NBC Sports done to deserve such animus? Well, I sat down to watch the men’s 100 meter semis and finals at 2:45pm EST. And, because of some intentionally misleading scheduling, I stayed glued to the couch for EIGHT F*CKING HOURS waiting for these events to be televised, and ended up having to witness each of the following things:

A women’s basketball game between two countries no one visits unless they win a consolation prize on “The Price is Right”

Equestrian, a sport so White even Prince Charles saw it and said “Damn, Equestrian, you need to get some sun, man.”

The surprisingly compelling women’s weightlifting

Man vs buffalo boxing

A thong contest

A thong contest between each of the gymnastic judges

Also, since I was aware that the track stuff would be shown on tape delay, I had to stay away from all social media, a few of my favorite websites, and certain channels just to make sure I didn’t get spoiled. Basically, bitch-ass NBC Sports took me back to 1996.

To top it all off, I spent eight hours waiting for an event — the men’s 100 meter finals — that took 9.6 seconds to end, which is the equivalent of ***insert somewhat, but not really all that witty analogy about a male virgin climaxing after 17 seconds on his wedding night***

Anyway, I ended my day long Twitter embargo a few minutes after Usain Bolt crossed the finish line, and perhaps 90% of my timeline was talking about one of five things:

1. Usain Bolt

2. The fact that such a tiny place (Jamaica) can be so dominant in three things people care greatly about (sprinting, reggae, and weed. And, that number jumps to four if you count “murder”)

3. Sanya Richards Ross’ breathtaking win and equally breathtaking weave

4. The fineness of USA sprinter Ryan Bailey

5. The potential gayness of USA sprinter Ryan Bailey

That the relatively unknown Bailey was a big hit on Twitter wasn’t a surprise. While watching the semis, I remember thinking “If he makes it to the finals, Madame Noire, Clutch, Essence, and Jezebel are going to sprint to see who can publish the first article devoted to him.” And, after the camera zoomed in and I saw the red kiss tattooed on his neck, I said “Hmm. That’s…interesting” to  no one in particular. For those not well-versed in Damon-speak, “Hmm. That’s…interesting” meant “Hmm. I wonder if Black women think he’s good-looking enough to ignore the fact that men possessing neck tattoos of kisses are usually thought to also enjoy playing tummy sticks?” Nevermind the fact that there is absolutely no correlation between kiss tats and homosexuality, doing certain things that just aren’t done by very many straight Black males has a tendency to make people assume that you’re not a straight Black male.

Now, whether Bailey is straight or not means no difference to me. He’s obviously a very talented athlete, and his looks and youth (he’s only 23) pretty much ensure that his popularity (and bank balance) will skyrocket very shortly. What remains most interesting to me, though, is how the concept of male heterosexuality (Black male heterosexuality especially) is so rigid that the possession one seemingly “neutral” characteristic or even being caught doing a neutral act can make you lose “straight points” in the eyes of both women and men. Having a tattoo of a kiss on your neck is one such thing. Here are a few others.

Talking/writing about sexuality

While most will join in with the discussion and some will give you props for “being secure enough in your sexuality to talk about something like that,” if you’re a Black man and you wish to write and/or speak about gender issues or sexuality, inevitably there will be a few who think (and may even say) “Hmm. I wonder why he even cares about this. He must be gay.” These are probably also the same people who buy produce at Target.

Driving a “non-masculine” car

What exactly constitutes a “non-masculine” car depends on the part of the country you live it, but this distinction remains inane regardless of how arbitrarily it’s decided. For instance, the new Nissan Altimas are very nice looking cars. Honestly, the ones with the dual tailpipes don’t look all that different than many sports/muscle cars on the road. But, because of its shitty engine, there are definitely certain places where driving an Altima will have people tempted to ask if you put your nuts in the glove compartment before you sit down.

Doing something with another like-aged man that doesn’t involve money, women, or sports

This includes (but isn’t limited to)

Getting a drink, going to a movie, letting your boy crash on your couch, walking, taking a road trip together, doing anything that requires you to be in a car together for longer than 90 minutes, going to a restaurant, doing yardwork in the summer time, jogging, starting a popular blog, sitting together while at a coffeehouse, “smiling too much” while speaking to each other, cooking, speaking to each other.

Anyway, people of VSB.com, can you think of anything else totally neutral that a man could do or possess that may make people think he may not be, um, straight? Also, what’s the verdict on grown-ass men who decide to get red kisses tattooed on their necks?

—Damon Young (aka “The Champ”)

***Check out my latest at Ebony about Gabby Douglas, and the surrealness of watching an event on tape delay even though you already know the results***

447 thoughts on “Kiss Tattoos On Your Neck And More: Things That’ll Make People Think You Just Might Be Gay (NTTAWWT, Of Course)

  1. My girl thought he was cute. I’m like – Of all the guys on here, you think he’s cute? She was like “Yeah, except for that neck tattoo, what’s that about?”

    • We need to make it a man code violation to have red lips tatted on your neck. Plus after the race, i wasnt peeping Sanya’s hair so it is ok by me

      • “We need to make it a man code violation to have red lips tatted on your neck.”

        Honestly, this depends heavily on one’s complexion…dude’s kinda light so you can easily see the tat. The same tat on Usain Bolt, however, would likely be a lot less noticeable. Perhaps the neck tat (and accordingly, gayness) is somewhat loosely correlated to how light-skinneded you are…..shrugs.

          • “Wrong, if the tat was on Bolt, the color would be more intense so you could see it.”

            let’s just say no to kiss tats on anyone, man or woman, dark, brown, or light.

            (I will make an exception, though, for early 2000′s pornstar lucy pearl)

            • Damn, you really do know your porn. If there’s a (black) porn museum somewhere out there, you could be the curator. Anyway, talking about the “fluidity” of sexuality is definitely cause for pause. I’ve seen a few try to argue that sexuality is on a spectrum and they shouldn’t have to decide. And while I can understand their argument on an intellectual level, I still don’t know what heterosexual black man chooses to make this his battle. Considering everything you got to deal with, you’re upset because you don’t have the same freedom as women to dance in groups or kiss on the lips without being seen as gay? This is where you want to make a difference? This is where you want to be a trail blazer? You’re blazing all right :o )

  2. Forget NBC Sports, I am quite done with all of NBC’s coverage of the Olympics. Why wasn’t men’s 100m live? I had to watch online, since NBC was showing equestrian. And I gave up on their lyin azz schedule. I had to compare it against the Olympics schedule online. Then I realized just because ‘live’ is on the screen doesn’t mean the event is actually live. I hate NBC.

    Oh, and Telemundo is a network of NBC. Am I the only one who thinks it’s a bit racist that they don’t air the Winter Olympics?

    • Right?! 100m IS track and field? It’s not even a weekday and you can’t show it LIVE?! I wanna know who sold their soul so NBC could have sole possession of the Olympics. aijuswannawatchlive. ::wall slides::

    • I missed Federer and Murray this morning over that BS schedule they posted. Eff NBC. I hope they lose they contract. If not, I’ll just need to go to Rio in person, just to avoid their wack-ass coverage.

    • I agree the Olympic coverage has been pretty disappointing. NBC has spoiled almost all of the good events. I don’t get why they show the events during prime-time if they’re going to announce the winners/outcomes beforehand.

    • don’t y’all get the live feeds on your laptop/desktops via your cable companies?

      i mean, i know that if anyone has verizon fios…y’all “should” be able to get the live feed…

      i watched the 100m final at 4:50 something *shrugs*

      also, i found that watching that Justin Gatlin ‘stroll’ pre-race…as i was watching it the 2nd time…was just too funny (i guess because i knew how the race went)

      • First of all, the schedule sucks, so even if you go on the website, you’re kind of guessing along. Also, I saw reports that the NBC live feed on the website stopped in the middle of the 100m. Maybe if the schedule was better, I could roll with the website feed, but their schedule is….creative.

    • Yeah, I just read somewhere that 2 billion people saw bolt’s win live…but none of the 2 billion were in america. nbc, and its dozens of stations showing olympic coverage, refused to show it live.

      and, as pissed as i was about the coverage, i guess their strategy worked, because you had millions of people like me sitting through all the other bullshit sports all day just to watch the track and field

      • I gave up and decided to watch the stuff on demand. Watched Gabby win twice. It’s interesting seeing how the commentators were throwing shade the whole time. Women’s boxing was ruined by the horrible officiating. But I enjoyed discovering that there are quite a few Olympic athletes I could beat. Can’t wait to see Franchon Crews, though. She’s from Baltimore. They have inspired me. I’ll have my first fight in two months.

  3. My thoughts in the first few seconds of Ryan Bailey appearing on the screen:
    Ooo! He’s cute! Oh wait, he might be prettier than me. Hmm…is he gay? Nah, that’s just me being jealous of his skin. Hold the phone, is that actual lipstick or a tattoo? Why would one do that? Idk if you’re gay or straight, this life choice bothers me. Well, run good! #TeamUSA

    I know some women can be quick to call a man gay, but this is one of those things guys are so much harder on themselves about. Guys say “pause” and ish at stuff I never would’ve dreamed needed a qualifier. Actually, if you say “pause” too much (I don’t generally agree with it’s use at all but that’s another story), I might start raising my eyebrows at you.

    • “I know some women can be quick to call a man gay, but this is one of those things guys are so much harder on themselves about.”

      hmm. i don’t know if i can agree with you

      • I’ve always felt men weren’t as homophobic as women. I think the only reason many guys says stupid stuff like “pause” and “no homo” is because theyre more scared of a woman thinking they are gay vs an actual gay man. Essentially, a man’s greatest fear is being eliminated from a woman’s bedtime options, especially for being perceived to be something theyre not.

  4. I have the WORST gaydar in the history of gaydars. It’s soo bad, people who care about me require that they meet my men just to make sure he’s not gay.
    It took me 15 minutes, 2 circles around the block, and 115 lb male in cut off jean shorts to tell me that Town off U St. Was a gay club. And this was DURING gay pride week. The only reason I was so curious was because the line was wrapped around the building and I was driving on U St. coming from Marvin’s wondering what the new hot club that I knew nothing about was.

    Just finished Season 4 of the Wire- why do so many people think that season 4 was better than 3?
    And I still don’t get Marlo.

    • “Just finished Season 4 of the Wire- why do so many people think that season 4 was better than 3?”

      the kids’/education storylines as well as the crime stuff

    • Maybe we overhyped it and that lead to you not being able to fully appreciate what many argue is the pinnacle of Western thought. Maybe viewing the seasons in rapid succession didn’t give you time to emotionally reset after the fireworks at the end of season three. I’m trying to find a reasonable explanation, because I don’t want to believe the implications of the words I’m reading on the screen. When the rapture comes I want to hear your name read aloud but I’m starting lose faith. Stop your backsliding and see the light. Also, when you’re done with the Wire, see the American gangster for Melvin Williams.

      • I’m obsessed with American Gangster. I’ve seen them all many times over so I know who he is because I remember from his AG episode that he ran Baltimore and they gave him a guest spot on the Wire. The whole beeper coding was inspired by how he ran his operation.

        You’re absolutely right Medium Meech the way I’m watching them is affecting my ability to process. And I’m a proponent of delayed gratification for deeper appreciation.
        I will stop my blasphemous talk and give Season 4 the respect it deserves. I will space the time between the shows to build anticipation.
        Thank you for saving me from myself.

        • Don’t deny yourself, the great thing about the wire is that it is infinitely rewatchable and you discover new things every time you watch it. One of my favorite things about season 4 is that that more than the others, even the final season, is that a lot of sub plots and hidden themes from the previous seasons are integrated and a lot of loose ends are tied up. Much more enjoyable the second or third time.

          Also, the fourth season is great because of the hope for the future that comes with focusing on kids that age paired with the optimism of the early part of a political career when Carcetti believes that he can change the world serve as perfect counterpoints to the cold amoral realism that is the show’s social message. It further blurs the line between good and bad by humanizing the next generation of players in the game and showing the choices and circumstances that show how relatable and inherently neutral (even innocent) “pre-people” into the roles they eventually inhabit. As good of a job as the wire does propagating that theme in the other seasons, season 4 does it in the most effective and engaging way by far.

          Plus the Bubbles saga is much easier to appreciate the when watched again.

          The first time I watched it I couldn’t really appreciate season 2 only because it was between seasons 1 and 3. But when I rewatched it I could understand it for what it was.

    • So I looked for the Wire on Netflix…its not there. I am pretty sure I recalled someone on here saying it was. Totally disappointed….so where do I find this show online beside actually having to purchase it?

      • IDK Breezy. I’m watching it on HBO Go. I’ve learned from you all how many people don’t have cable, so I don’t know how else to get it.

    • Season 4 just tore your heart out. None of the other seasons hit me like that one. The fact that you got to see where the dealers came from and how they got in the game to begin with. Horrible. And the one who made it out was the one who’s dad was in jail and Mama wanted him to be a soldier. Or was that in season 5?

  5. Yep, lips on the neck is definately gay. I cant stand it on kenyon martin, cuz i kno hes not. Just bad taste & worse judgement, i suppose. The olympian dude, who knows? But i must say, my gaydar is pulling strongly to the left. Lol. Other things that are gay: tan leather murses ;-)

  6. It’s like y’all been spying on me and my girl’s conversations for the past week and a half. She thinks EVERYBODY is gay. She rigorously grilled me the whole first two months after I started talking to her, on the possibility that I MIGHT be less than “manly”.

    Frank Ocean came out, everybody was shocked, except her. She insists Miguel gotta be gay, despite his bomb girlfriend, and the fact that I’ve known dude since college.

    Won’t hear a bad word against Trey Songz tho. *shrug*

    And yeah, she definitely was going to talk about Ryan Bailey, but since I’ve been clowning her all week, she held it in. LOL

    • I feel you. I get tired of defending everyone from the women who claim they must be gay because (insert some simple a$$ action). They call the biggest players gay and say they must be compensating for gayness by obviously dating bad chicks. Right now the only ones they don’t call gay are the most hyper masculine men around. To me those are the gayest acting ones.

      • Truth. Anyone that tries that hard to be a man has something to hide. Every dude has his less-than-macho moments. No one is that perfect unless they HAVE to be.

      • “They call the biggest players gay and say they must be compensating for gayness by obviously dating bad chicks.”

        I have a friend (of course I do…lol) who is the biggest Captain Save-A-Hoe ever… and people think he’s gay because he’s damn near 50 and never married. He is, however, pretty damn feminine. I’ve even jokingly called him gay when he’s said things that are even so feminine I wouldn’t even think of saying!

      • ” Right now the only ones they don’t call gay are the most hyper masculine men around. To me those are the gayest acting ones.”

        Wisdom.

    • “She rigorously grilled me the whole first two months after I started talking to her, on the possibility that I MIGHT be less than “manly”

      how exactly did that go? would she do experiments with you (ie: “lemme see how he picks up this fork?”)? Couldn’t you call that gay entrapment?

      • LOL that was my first thought! I love Miguel, met him once at a album signing and he was really cool. that was back when he was opening for Trey songz actually. I refuse to believe he’s gay, he’s just different and anyone who is different is quick to be labeled gay.

        • Yea, Miguel was on my list of male RnB singers who I “absolutely adore”. Of course, speaking musically. But I think people give Miguel a hard time because he likes to dress like Woody Woodpecker on occasion.

  7. Honestly, though.

    Neck lips don’t make me think you’re gay,

    but there’s an 82.6% chance that you’re in a Mexican gang.

    • “but there’s an 82.6% chance that you’re in a Mexican gang.”

      If you know a Mexican dude with that kind of tattoo and the first name Angel, chances are it’s time to go- you may end up getting shot at!

    • I work for this community health center in the Bronx and Ive seen so many neck kiss tattoos on guys..mostly young hispanic males.. I thought it was a more spanish thing in the Bronx..not a hey im gay indicator lol

      NBC really did a poor job with the olympics..

  8. Things that could be gay – rings (other than wedding bands or Super Bowl rings), dressing like Lil Wayne, dyeing you hair for reasons other than covering the gray, super tight Under Armor (even if you are working out)

    I don’t judge non-masculine cars, drive what you can afford, and if it’s a Nissan Altima, then roll it. SmartCars, Mini Coopers and Volkswagen Beetles are gay-looking cars, but they are too expensive to be ‘all you can afford’

    • I think Beetles aren’t that masculine, too. lol. I think Volkswagen got the memo because the newer, remolded version looks much more unisex.

      • I drove a beetle for 2 years. I thought it was a feminine car too. BUT alot of older men were driving them. In their mind it’s a classic. Shoot when they came out I’m pretty sure women weren’t allowed to drive. Here’s a question, are mustang convertibles women’s cars? A coworker told me men only drive them for women.

    • You forgot to add tongue ring that would make me question you. Any man that wears a tongue ring gets a big side eye. yuck

    • “I don’t judge non-masculine cars, drive what you can afford, and if it’s a Nissan Altima, then roll it. SmartCars, Mini Coopers and Volkswagen Beetles are gay-looking cars, but they are too expensive to be ‘all you can afford’”

      You have to give a pass on the Mini Coopers- nobody but dudes drive those cars. However, anything that has the Nissan, Honda or Toyota is a designated “female car” (according to the National League of Car Mechanics). So any dude driving either of those vehicles are suspect to being…well…suspect.

    • “SmartCars, Mini Coopers and Volkswagen Beetles are gay-looking cars, but they are too expensive to be ‘all you can afford”

      would a prius be included on this list?

  9. “can you think of any more things that a man could do or possess that may make people think that he’s not, um, straight? ”

    Yeah, wearing that Gap Kids ensemble Kirk Franklin sported on Sunday Best.

  10. Ryan Bailey definitely triggered my cutie alarm…LOL. It’s funny because I was like oooh, but then I saw that neck tat and I was like what the f*ck…all in a matter of seconds. LOL My gaydar didn’t go off, but I thought the tatt was super tacky and hella random. All that good-lookingness and he wants to mar it with those soft a.s.s. lips and font.

    As for things that might make me think a dude is SUS:

    1. Certain attire (e.g. rolled up jeans to his ankles/shins)
    2. Glossy looking lips
    3. super argumentative
    4. Extremely finicky with food
    5. The way he holds his hands
    6. Perfect brows

    Btw, I was extremely happy for Sonya Richards-Ross.

  11. Hmm, let’s see.

    1. You know how whenever men try to 1-up each other, people use the metaphor “They’re having a d!ck measuring contest?” Well, try having an ACTUAL d!ck measuring contest against a white dude who’s name was, and I kid you not, Elrod, because other guys in the platoon saw him naked during showertime and thought they finally found someone who can take the title of King Dingaling from me (he didn’t, he lost by an inch). If it makes it any less gay, we didn’t measure it in front of the whole platoon, we waited til we were alone. In the shower. No? That didn’t help? That made it worse, you say? Well….I’m secure and whatnot. But just in case…..No Homo Times Eternity.

    2. Telling people on a blog named VSB and in a music-related topic, tell everyone that you “absolutely adore” Trey Songz, The Weeknd, and Frank Ocean.

    3. Looking at a picture of Terrance Howard on the cover of Essense (or was it Ebony?) and uncontrollably blurting out, “Holy sh!t his eyes are GORGEOUS!”

    • Wow…(blinks eyes)…you’re a soldier for even admitting that sh*t

      And for the record, folk, your #3 is actually 1.7x more “gay” than your #1….ijs

      • why? because he said gorgeous? What if he just said, “Damn. He got some nice eyes”? If it’s true, it’s true. No “no homo” required IMHO.

        • I was being more facetious than anything….
          As men, we typically don’t compliment other men on their physical features, be it in person or not. Complimenting another man on his physical characteristics generally falls under those acts that Champ has listed above. Hence, why TUK even bother listing it.
          I don’t make the rules, I just observe ‘em. lol.

          • There’s a way to do it…

            “You have the prettiest eyes.” Unacceptable.

            “Yeah, you a good lookin’ cat. You’ll be alright.” Yeah. That’s okay.

            “Nice suit. Where did you pick that up?” Definitely. Finding out where to get a good suit at a decent price is the move for any man.

            “Your skin is so clear. It’s like you’re glowing!” Not just “no”, but “Fuck, no.”

      • Lol, yea well, I know I’m not gay so I’m good. It’s not the type of sh!t you tell random strangers. But I have no qualms with sharing amongst my fam. In hindsight I think that it’s funny as hell that we were bored enough to have an actual measuring contest.

    • 4. Having a cute, topless girl with D-cup breasts standing in front of you, but you compliment her lip gloss.

      5. Having an @sshole bestfriend who, when you go to the mall with a small group of homies to go pick up women, since he’s the only n!gga in the group with a girlfriend, he decides to come up next to you and hold your hand so that everyone will think you’re gay.

      6. Being able to do a horizontal split better than some of your female friends. Which gets side-eyed even though everyone knows you’ve been taking Karate for over a decade.

      7. You, not your girl, being the one who suggests cuddling. In which s.e.x does NOT follow. And in my defense….well…there is none. I’m just an affectionate dude. I thoroughly enjoy a woman’s company and conversation. Sue me.

      8. Your neighbors filing a noise complaint because you had Foxy Brown’s “Taste Just Like Candy” blasting loud as f*ck. On repeat. For 37 minutes.

      I got more, but I’ve embarrassed myself enough :-(

      • “4. Having a cute, topless girl with D-cup breasts standing in front of you, but you compliment her lip gloss.”

        I actually did this, but with good reason. You see, I didn’t want to embarrass her being that she had just gotten plastic surgery. It was fairly obvious to anyone who saw it, so I said something about her lipstick because her boobs looked a little…uh…different…

        • What? You are violating one of the player rules. Never compliment a good looking woman on her looks. Don’t do it. Compliment her smarts, her sense of fashion/style but never tell a big titted chick about her big tits. She’s already heard it since she was 11 years old. You compliment smart girls on their looks (in a sideways manner) and cute girls on their smarts or something else she actually has control over. If they are both cute and smart make not of their defeciencies.

      • #4 is actually smart pimping. Why? Because if every other dude is peeping her boobs, and you don’t look flaming, homegirl is going to check you out to see what you’re deal is. Congratulations, TUK. You’ve learned the art of the neg, and those girls boobs are going to be wrapped around your… ;)

      • “7. You, not your girl, being the one who suggests cuddling. In which s.e.x does NOT follow. And in my defense….well…there is none. I’m just an affectionate dude. I thoroughly enjoy a woman’s company and conversation. Sue me.”

        Awww… and you are certainly rampin up to a fine playa. Where’d you get your playbook? ;) Be careful doe, some women will start tearing your clothes off if there is never any chex after a snuggle session. IJS.

    • TUK,

      I’m confuzzled. Help me out here. In regard to the measuring contest….the most important thing I need to know is…

      Was the criteria e.rect of f.laccid? Seriously. This changes the game. 0_0

      • Erect of course. Which was a challenge in itself. We stood on the opposite side of the shower room (all the shower heads are located in two big shower rooms, no walls or anything to seperate you), with our backs turned to each other. We snuck pictures of our girlfriends in because we couldn’t get e.rect otherwise. Once we were good, we lined our wang up against the wall, which was tiled (because we didn’t want to touch or be near each AT ALL, things were weird enough as is). Whoever’s peen covered the most tiles, won. I won. Simple as that.

      • Speaking of trousers snakes, I’m gonna go ahead and admit I watch some events specifically to stare at men’s bulges in the privacy of my own home. Then there’s imagination and speculation…..fun fun.

        • Yea, I learned from a few of my female followers that women do this ALOT. They’re just slick enough with it to not get caught. I found out yall sneak peeks at the “bulge” when I’m out and about, even worse if I’m wearing basketball shorts. Yall look at butts, too. It wasn’t the action of looking that surprised me, I knew women looked. It was the frequency of it and the situations that would call for it that was news to me. I was like, “Yall nasty” lol.

    • “1. You know how whenever men try to 1-up each other, people use the metaphor “They’re having a d!ck measuring contest?” Well, try having an ACTUAL d!ck measuring contest against a white dude who’s name was, and I kid you not, Elrod, because other guys in the platoon saw him naked during showertime and thought they finally found someone who can take the title of King Dingaling from me (he didn’t, he lost by an inch). If it makes it any less gay, we didn’t measure it in front of the whole platoon, we waited til we were alone. In the shower. No? That didn’t help? That made it worse, you say? Well….I’m secure and whatnot. But just in case…..No Homo Times Eternity.”

      yeah, man. this might be the gayest thing i’ve ever read. i think i just became 7.6% more gay by cutting and pasting it. in the future, roaming tribes of gay men will sing folk songs about this comment.

      • “yeah, man. this might be the gayest thing i’ve ever read.”

        Really? Awesome! That was my intent. To make it impossible to 1-up me. The only way to top this would be to have a story about that actually involves touching. And at that point, the line has been crossed. You’d be ghey.

        “roaming tribes of gay men will sing folk songs about this comment.”

        Well at least SOMEONE out there will appreciate me. Even if it is based off of me taking the phrase “you have to be the bigger man” WAY too literally.

        • Gotcha beat.

          Two months after BMT, I ran into one of my flight mates on my training base. After drinking a beer, he tells me, “It’s weird, but your d*ck is much bigger than I thought it would be.” Seeing as how this admission came out before “No homo” was invented, I just put my glass down, said, “Thank you?”, in my best Will Ferrell voice and left.

          A couple of days later, I ran into another of my basic training partners. I told him about what Airman {name redacted} said and the second guy *agreed* with him. I was expecting to hear, “Yeah, that’s kinda questionable, but DADT.”, not, “Well, its true. You look like a small guy, but you were bigger than all of the guys in your bay.” Ten guys later, I came to the conclusion that all American men are either far more comfortable with their sexuality than the media implies, or closet homosexuals. I should note that at no time did I flat out *ask* any of them about my endowment. I just asked, “Hey, you think Airman {name redacted} is gay?”, heard a “No.”, then told them what the initiator said about me.

          P.S.-I served with a group of fellow Caribbeans. To a man, all four guys admitted to having experienced the same thing (unlike me, however, they didn’t hear it from a dozen different people.) Maybe, it was the accent. It’s skeevy, either way.

    • #1 is hilarity. Reminds me of a well-endowed White ex I had who told me why his one White friend’s nickname was “Moose”.

      #3 is self-hatred that Black men engage in…the worship of anything similar to Whiteness. A Black man talking like that would dry up my hello kitty.

          • You have a White Ex and you’re saying TUK has self hatred issues? Really? SMH! Secondly Terrence Howard’s eyes sparkle. Mine don’t “sparkle”. 3. They don’t put ugly men on the cover of Essence or Ebony. He may not be your type- you told us what your type is- but somebody must like him otherwise.

          • 1. What about me complimenting Terrence Howard’s EYES have anything to do with worshipping whiteness?

            2. Terrence Howard’s eyes are light brown/hazel. Again, how does this qualify as “white features?”

            3. And I was going to point how the thing about your ex, but bhillboy did it for me.

            Also, this was the cover I was talking about. My mom has a subscription to Ebony. When I walked past this, the photography made his eyes stand out so much I commented out of suprise. Funny thing was, like a week later my homie walked past the magazine and did the same thing:

            http://gossiponthis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ebony-thoward.jpg

  12. Ha! My homegirl are actually on a road trip together (no homo) and while we watched in the hotel we saw dude and were like ooooooo! And then ohhhh? Hol up! Is that?! Ummmm… Idk if we immediately thought gay, but we were definitely like oh hell no!

    • Unfortunately, I fall into this category. In private, if I’m with a female I trust, I’m good. However, other than that scenario, I’m the spokesperson for apathy. Add that to the fact that Kanye, Drake, and Childish Gambino (all of whom get unnecessarily clowned for being “emo”) are my Top 3 favorite rappers right now which usually begets even more teasing, I just naturally act like an @sshole. Eventually, with my past, my experiences with women, my “looked-down-upon” music preferences, it stopped becoming an act and became a legitimate part of my character. Sucks, but that’s life.

        • None from me. I have given so many of my friends a good ***blank stare*** for insisting that any man who is not interested in them is gay. Because really, that’s what it all (or the majority of it) boils down to. Kind of like the way some men believe a woman is a stuck up gold-diggin’ hussy if she refutes their advances. There’s another word I could have used, but I didn’t want to trip the sensors. Truth is, both sexes start throwing around derogatory or unfounded accusations when our egos are bruised.

          And lest I be called a hypocrite, I’ve done it too. I just realized how asinine it sounded.

          “He ordered a PINK lemonade?!?!?! Oh no, girl…he’s gay.”

          See? LOL

          • “I have given so many of my friends a good ***blank stare*** for insisting that any man who is not interested in them is gay. ”

            Have you ever noticed that the ones who say that are usually the ones who have nothing else to offer but their bodies? I like to refer to them as bustdowns in training, LMAO!!!

            • Word! The thing is that they’ll get just enough play to have dudes date them and even hump him, but then wonder why homeboy won’t try to be her boo. At least the hating dudes get feedback from not getting none. Those women who think like that get to lie to themselves every time a peen is inserted inside them. *smh*

          • I once dated this guy who SWORE he was not gay after I confronted him about a few things that were suspect. The final straw for me was when we went to a HUGE club in Chicago and he ordered two green apple martinis. I still have a picture of him drunk as hec sucking on the cherry. o_O

          • omg I dated a dude who LOVED pink lemonade but didn’t want to order it because it didn’t seem masculine enough. He’d tell me to order an extra large so he could drink from my cup.

    • The worse part is that if you express your full range of emotions, the only one you’ll end up expressing is sexual frustration, since the vast majority of straight women aren’t coming to see you Otis. I know you don’t have a dog in this fight, but a man has to walk a tightrope to express their emotions while somehow not drying out the panties of every straight woman around him. I’ve had to learn to do it to keep sane, but I can see why a brother would say “F*ck this! I’m sick of pr0n and talking to the hand. Lemme swallow my emotions and get me some!”

      • And the sad part is that it’s a lose-lose for men. Women chastise men for usually being “emotionally unavailable” or for bottling up our emotions. So let me get this straight, you (though men and women do this I’m speaking only to the women here) ingrain the mantra “No emotion, no weakness” from infancy, to young adulthood (age 18). But then turn around and b!tch when, we reach adulthood, we become….wait for it….emotionless hyper-alpha d-bags who if, he had a f*ck, certainly wouldn’t waste it on your feelings. Hyper alpha d-bags who make EVERYTHING about masculinity. So much so, that they end up saying sh!t like (true convo alert):

        Me: “Man, I loved Take Care and Camp. Two best albums of 2011. WTT and Section 80 are up there too.”

        Dude: “You liked that soft @ss Take Care. N!gga you gay! I bet you the type of n!gga that licks his ice cream instead of biting it.”

        Me: O.o “Seriously?! Like…dude…who the f*ck chews ice cream? The hell are you trying to prove? And to whom?!

        • “ingrain the mantra “No emotion, no weakness” from infancy, to young adulthood (age 18).”

          Do you really think women are more guilty of doing this compared to men? In my experience it’s mostly men who push boys to be tough and show no emotion. Not saying women are innocent, I just think men do it more.

          • I never said women did it more. I just said they did it also. Sure men do it more, but women reinforce/co-sign the attitude. Then years later it’s “Waaah, why won’t he express himself?!” or “Waaah, why doesn’t he want to tell me how he feels inside?!”.

            Well, that probably has something to do with the fact that when I got shot 50 times, point blank range with military grade shotguns, at the age of 5 and my dad said “And you bet not cry! Man up!”, you stepped in and despite my intestines spilling out onto the floor, chimed in “That’s right! Don’t be no b!tch!”

            • So TUK as a mother with a fairly young son still, I have never told him not to cry. In fact, he’s quite emotional at times particularly with certain movies the tears start flowing. and I tell him it’s okay, natural to feel that way. His dad, on the other hand, I’m sure would probably be like your dad was to you. I think men (read: fathers) are the best/worst at teaching their son’s this behavior… to withhold emotions. I don’t think that is a good thing male or female.

            • omg that’s why mothers freak out and think fathers are too hard on the child.
              Father: “He’s got to man up!”
              Mother: “He’s only 5!”

          • Men are teaching the boys how to get by in this world. When you lose for being a well rounded person emotionally, you teach your kids how not to lose when they become your age. Peep- I’ve had far fewer problems with women since I let out my inner a$hole. It’s been nearly 15 years. Recently my girl challenged me to the limit.When I mean to the limit. Physically and emotionally challenged me I stood tall became absolutely emotionless and told her what’s what. She backed down completely. I didn’t even think going that hard would work. It was a real gamble. I thought we were finished as a couple. She has not been this compliant since we first started talking. Having soft emotions lead to ruin in relationships with black women. Y’all YSS’s better listen to these VSB’s.

    • “It’s amazing how so many Black men have allowed themselves to become emotional cripples for fear of being thought “gay” So sad.”

      Was going to reply to this, but todd already said what I was going to say

      “I know you don’t have a dog in this fight, but a man has to walk a tightrope to express their emotions while somehow not drying out the panties of every straight woman around him.”

      basically, none of us wants to be that gruff/”extra hyper-hetero” guy who holds everything in and is restricted in what we can and can’t do. but, we also want women to continue to be attracted to us. and, although there are some exceptions, women usually just aren’t into those types of super emotive guys. so, we struggle to find the balance.

    • Actually because of homophobia, Val, some men just don’t want to get bashed for being thought gay. Gay-bashing doesn’t even have to happen to gay men and lesbians only, ya know.

  13. And if I have to sit through another Michael Phelps interview because I’m afraid I’ll miss track and field, I’m going to throw something at my TV.

    And NBC is making me root against all of the White women gymnasts after the way the talked so badly about Gabby and are so over the top praising the White women like Maroney tonight. And she lost.

    And is swimming over yet?!

    And NBC Sports is an oxymoron.

    • “And NBC is making me root against all of the White women gymnasts after the way the talked so badly about Gabby and are so over the top praising the White women like Maroney tonight. And she lost.”

      man, they jinxed that girl by how they were talking about her. it was so bad that i thought they were intentionally trying to jinx her

      • Super jinxed her. NBC had already crowned Kayla Maroney the “best female vaulter of all time” and handed her the gold before she even stepped foot in the arena. Those announcers were going hard in the paint for her last night.

      • Whoever that announcer was he needs to be gone. I think it’s okay to identify the athlete who is favored to win but he lost all objectivity.

      • What pissed me off in all of that rambling is that I was fighting to stay awake for the 100 Men’s Finals and those commentators was just dragging shid out about that chick. Funny thing is as soon as they started singing her praises I starting praying for her to fall flat on her arse.

    • Val…from the Olympic trails it was obvious that NBC was in no way shape or form going to praise Gabby for anything she did. Whenever those lil 2520 chicks came on deck to do something it was all *in my best valley girl voice* “OMG did you see her wink, she is the best in the world at winking…oh my that should have been a 10″. When Gabby goes up they start talking shid about how her dad has been missing from her life for months and then he just shows up at the trails with an American flag….O_O….I was totally blown away. Even when her routines where finish did you guys notice HOW LONG it took them to even give her a compliment?!?!?!?

      • WOW really?!? She can’t catch a break. I have only watched the track and field events (online) so I didn’t know it was the bad.

      • I missed all this; I’ve barely seen any of the gymnastics. I really wasn’t fond of that “flying squirrel” sh*t but they say that’s her nickname…

      • they always do this with black athletes.

        it’s always some sort of hardship story/ single mom/ absent father type of jizz.
        so they need to diminish black accomplishment, to make up for the fact they we dominate the sports world.

        • Really? They did the same with Phelps. I always felt like they did it to show how much the family sacrificed to get the person where they are today.

          • I also saw them do this with the white girl who won the gold in Karate. She was crying when she got her medal (almost made me tear up). Then they started talking about how her last coach s.e.x.ually assaulted her…

        • Well you know the Olympics have to have a narrative. There has to be a hero somewhere. Appeal to people’s emotions. It makes a greater story when the athlete experiences victory after overcoming what seems like insurmountable odds, and the Olympics more memorable in general.

            • It was how it was done. In fact it was the 2520s that I work who brought up the fact that it was totally in poor taste. Mind you the fact that her Dad IS in the MILITARY and DEPLOYED kinda never made its way into the conversation about him being MISSING FROM HER LIFE. Yeah I think it’s a given that when you are an ACTIVE DUTY DEPLOYED SARGENT you will be missing from time to time.

              • It is messed up how the media tried to make it look like Gabby doesn’t have BOTH parents in her life & rooting for her. Her dad is serving his country in the military. He was in the stands cheering for her when she tried to qualify for the Olympics in 2011.

  14. I thought Ryan Baily was cute when I saw him tonight (no hetero) but him possibly being gay because of a tattoo didn’t even cross my mind. I just thought if he’s fast he’s going to get a lot of endorsement deals. I also thought he looked like Al B. Sure, minus the unibrow.

  15. How timely is this for me! I JUST went to the movies with my homeboy and had a foolish moment:

    My homie got a gang of free tickets to the movies and he wanted to see “Total Recall” last night. However, the “drinking crew” wanted to bar hop. So i dress up like im going clubbing.

    Unfortunately, one by one, everybody canceled except for me and the one homie. We were going to try to get into a (overrated) place called Beachers Madhouse, but the chicks that were going to walk us in were b-sing around/ started drinking/ not answering txts until way late…..yeah i’m still salty (god bless em) so F-it!!!!! We decide to do the movies……. in full clubbing attire.

    We get into the theater, it’s Saturday night, i notice all of the couples and i realize…. we look like we’re on a date.
    So i make it a point to nod at every woman that walks by and we make our way into the theater…….
    ………which is mostly empty and he grabs a seat in a completely empty row. However i pause…. should i take a seat RIGHT next to this mofo, or should i leave an empty seat between us #insecureguyproblems

    I literally stand there paused, contemplating/ looking around at other people in the theater to see if they are watching me. Until finally…..i say “let me go get something to eat, i’ll be right back”
    This gives me more time to think. But of course when i return it’s the same dilemma. Empty row, me dressed slightly Hollywood metro……. like i’m on a date.
    My homeboy (who is Asian and clearly doesn’t have these hangups) moves his stuff from the seat next to him: “there you go bro” and i sit down…. in the coolest, nonchalant way possible.

    Now why was i, a guy who refuses to eat at Chick-Fil-A, such a f@cking idiot? I have no clue.

    …….*sigh* But i recognize the stupidity of it lol

    • LOL @ this whole story.

      I would have walked in at a different time than my homeboy so as to make it look like we didn’t know each other.

      And you HAVE to leave a seat in between if it’s possible. Think back to the Man Laws about dudes and urinals in the bathroom. LOL

      • “Think back to the Man Laws about dudes and urinals in the bathroom.”

        Exactly. Gotta watch out for Meat Peepers.

    • Word on the Asian guy not having these issues. It’s only Black guys that have to prove their manhood at all times, or the Klan will come and personally rape us or something. Yeesh. That’s why I envy White and Asian guys. They can be a bit more open with their feelings without completely scaring off straight women.

        • Oh, I’m glad you caught that tendency too. ;) Not saying all ninjas ain’t shit or trying to be on the come-up as much as acknowledging specific truths.

      • This has nothing to do with women. Guys say ‘pause’ and ‘no homo’ when only around other guys as well. Homophobia has nada to do with impressing women.

        There are tons of examples of effiminate or even full out gay men who have large followings of women. See: Ricky Martin or Anderson Cooper.

      • I loved that very special episode of Louie where he developed a man crush. There was so much in it – the difficulties of making new friends in middle age, homophobia, how the world seems different on vacation, the awkwardness that results when you take a one-off experience and try to extend it or make it permanent.

        Yes, Louie is working that same vein as Larry David, comedy so awkward it’s painful to watch. But I think Louie manages to make it more human and relatable. I’m still watching through my fingers sometimes, but I just can’t look away.

        And I couldn’t consider Ryan the sprinter not because the neck tattoo makes him gay, but because it makes him tacky and lacking in good sense.

    • BOL!! Movie seats can be rather intimate. I would have left a space or, if possible, sat right next to him and lifted the armrest on the opposite side so I could scoot over a little. Honestly, I see men sit next to each other in movies all the time but it’s usually a group. Just two guys? ya…LOL, you just needed one more guy.

    • Aww… Rome… that was the best freaking story! LOL… yeah, I hang with Asians too and they are some seriously IDGAF people when it comes to sexuality. I saw Total Recall this weekend too. I thought it was okay. My son LOVED it! Too bad I kept comparing it to the Arnold original. Maybe I could have enjoyed it more.

      • Oh, and we saw Step Up Revolution too. What can I say… I love dance! I want to be in The Mob…. dance group that is. LOL

    • “I literally stand there paused, contemplating/ looking around at other people in the theater to see if they are watching me. Until finally…..i say “let me go get something to eat, i’ll be right back”
      This gives me more time to think. But of course when i return it’s the same dilemma.”

      Hilarious….you make me thankful I’m a woman. We just don’t have to think this deeply. As a matter of fact, this wouldn’t even be a dilemma. We’d just sit next to each with no qualms. lol

  16. My sis and I def thought he was fine but for some reason I didn’t think gay when I saw the tat. I just rolled my eyes and deducted some of his fineness points.
    Some things I think are suspect are nails longer than mine and colored contacts.

    • I HATE it when a man has long nails. The Jamaican youngster in the 100M (2nd place) had pretty long nails…to the point they were visible. I was mad too because his nails were distracting me from the sexiness of his shoulders and arms. Ugh.

      • I noticed Yohan Blake’s nails too. It didn’t make me think he was gay, it just made me wonder about his grooming habits. Lol Cut your nails Yohan!

        • I didn’t think he was gay either. I didn’t think any of the sprinters were including the one that’s the VSB topic of discussion. I did sense the grooming issues like you…lol. Those nails and struggle braids. iCan’t. Maybe Yohan doesn’t realize cornrows on grown men aren’t hot. His arms were delish though.

    • I wholeheartedly agree with you when it comes to the fingernails and colored contacts! I think twice about a guy who wearrs those. I used to a guy who would wear purple contacts! It was lightweight scary and suspect (although I dont’t think he was gay if having a bunch of kids could be considered evidence. Idk).

    • I wholeheartedly agree with you on the long fingernails and colored contacts. I def think twice when I see this. Especially, when they have the nerve to have on clear nail polish too! STOP! I knew a guy who used to wear purple contacts. Smh. That ish was lightweight, not to mention suspect.

  17. America may be getting press for their athletes, but they are still behind China. You mean to tell me that not only are they killing us in education, they’re getting us in the Olympics too? Moving right along…

    When it comes to suspect dudes, all I will say is this:

    If you are a man and you have seen these two music videos more than once in its entirety and praise both of these said videos highly, you will be forever viewed as being a “friend of Dorothy”.

    P.S.: If you know what videos these are without clicking on the provided links…sucks to be you, LMAO!!!

    Exhibit A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRwLMC2wP0g

    Exhibit B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxVNOnPyvIU

    • The reason China beats ya’ll is because they make everything themselves, everything! Even the prestigious American flags that the patriotic Americans wave proudly at the Olympics are made in China

    • We only get to see their best. There’s like a billion of them and we are seeing their top .5%. Also, they start training their Olympians at 3 or 4. No lie. They remove them from their homes, send them to training camps, and that is all that they do. It is an honor for the family if you make it and a dishonor if you don’t.

    • “America may be getting press for their athletes, but they are still behind China. You mean to tell me that not only are they killing us in education, they’re getting us in the Olympics too? Moving right along…”

      china also gets medals in sports that nobody gives a shit about.

      • + 1,000

        Most of China’s medals have been won already. They do well in events like swimming, diving, and (of course) gymnastics. I actually watched the badminton (BADMINTON?!?!?!) final between China and Malaysia last night…..another gols medal for China in a sport I bet not many Americans even play, much less play well enough to get Olympic medals in. Once track and field, soccer (the women, at least), basketball, and the sports America is better at finish up, we should be ahead of them.

    • China probably makes the medals and sh t (actually i read somewhere that gold medals are really gold plated silver ones….yeah thats some cheap China ish right there)

    • “America may be getting press for their athletes, but they are still behind China. ”

      I have literally checked almost daily to see if we’ve supplanted China in the medal count…but no. I think briefly on Saturday we had finally gained the lead by two medals, but they came back on Sunday and were up by one medal. I don’t know who has the lead today. Probably them.

    • China’s population is well north of a billie.

      America is somewhere around 340-350 million….so although I’m all for USA dominating the Olympics, but when you’re outnumbered 3 to 1….I can’t get mad when the other country puts up a fight.

  18. I guess i’m just not one of those people. I don’t look at a tat like that and say OMG, he must be gay. The only thought that normally comes to my mind is “c’mon son, you obviously don’t want a job” I personally have never seen a gay dude with a neck tat like that…and a good portion of my undergrad was spent in the gay clubs, at the drag shows, and rolling with plenty of flamboyant young men that could give most chicks a run for their money in a twerk contest.

    I also never thought of tongue piercings on a man as a gay thing…only a source of enjoyment #IfYouKnowWhatIMean

    *Kanye Shrug*

    • “I also never thought of tongue piercings on a man as a gay thing…only a source of enjoyment #IfYouKnowWhatIMean”

      I know what you mean!!! I have never understood why a tongue piercing on a man is considered gay. Its more suited for cunnilingus than felatio. IJS

      • I’ve only met one man with a tongue ring. He damn sure wasn’t gay and I heard he was a beast with it…although I think my first reaction would be that it was, at least, effeminate.

      • “its more suited for cunnilingus than felatio”

        It’s pretty overrated, too. It wasn’t pleasurable for me.

  19. 1. A tongue piercing Check that: Flaunting a China red studded tongue piercing.

    2. Whatever the hell Bruce Jenner is doing to himself.

  20. This guy should give up track and field, Jamaicans dominate the discipline, there is no money compared to major sports, and audition for the next Tyler Perry’s movie

  21. He has a son named Tyree so that kind of sort of a little exes out the gay thing (sons name is Tyree) furthermore IMO son doesnt look like he came from black woman looks like the very little black i see in him is from Ryan so all the lust may me in vain for other reasons but him playing tiddleywinks with men is not one of them

  22. 1. Excessive hand gesturing
    2. Celibacy
    3. Matter of fact, saying no to any women that wants to have sex with you
    4. Listening and appreciating indy pop
    5. Watching a lot of reality tv
    6. Bing a Beyonce Stan
    7. Having no interest in sports whatsoever
    8. Being friends or roommates with gays
    9. Listening to Frank Ocean without offering an explanation
    10. Recognizing the great filmography/acting in i’m Back Mountain

  23. Maybe it’s just me but I never considered track and field to be a masculine sport to begin with or a femine sport. Its just simply a unisex individualized sport. It’s like the only sport where you could be straight or gay or bi and who would really care.

    I may question your sexuality if you are groomed too well, have a ton of female friends but not enough male friends, get manicures or pedicures, and carry your bag on one shoulder and not across the chest.

  24. My girlfriend and I were watching that race and instantly got thirsty over the young and when I mentioned the kiss tattoo, she quickly became disinterested in him and the rest of the race. I explained to her that’s just something lightskinned guys do (like tongue rings, belly button tattoos and hair dying unless you’re a Golden Lord from “Meteor Man”) she let out an “oh” as if that was all the explaination for his “suspect” behaviour.

  25. man, if he were alive today, people’d be callinn out Jimi Hendrix.

    the only thing i think when i hear people talking about other people is :: projection. the discourse on gaydom says more about who is speaking than who is being discussed.

    the most alpha man i know is gay. and i gotta give it up. he makes me think about masculinity in a way that goes so far beyond sex that i’m just in awe of men as a whole.

  26. As I have said a thousand times already…NBC’s coverage of the Olympics sucks donkey balllz….talk about 1st world problems…this is one of them!!!!!!!

    That Ryan dude is not my type and does nothing for me. Additionally nothing turns me off more than a man who KNOWS he looks good (to some women) and FLUNTS it. When the cameras came to him all of a sudden he was all batty eyes and lip pouting and shid….gross! GTHOOH….next.

    S/N: *ques “Murder She Wrote” and butterflies while screaming* BOLT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is a BAD MAN!!!

  27. I can’t believe no one has brought this up, but I give highly suspect looks at guys with Madea dvd’s at the house. If I come to your spot and see a stack of Tyler Perry joints next to the t.v…

  28. Slightly off topic.Gabby Douglas is about to make some serious bank lol.I’m already bracing myself to see her face on a lot of cereal boxes ,juice cartons, household items and what not.I’m also wondering if she’s about to become the Tiger woods of gymnastics,well she’s already,either way being on the cover of the Washington post at 16 is nothing short of amazing.Congrats!
    As for NBC,words can’t exactly convey the negative feelings I have towards them but it’s ok though because come Rio de janeiro 2016 I’m taking my behind right to the games,screw their coverage !!!!

    • Gabby Douglas is about to make some serious bank lol.I’m already bracing myself to see her face on a lot of cereal boxes ,juice cartons, household items and what not.

      she’s already on the corn flakes box

      • You’re right lol i believe Kelloggs has a special unit in charge of Snagging gymnasts before anybody else even thinks about it.Man it’s amazing the speed at which Gabby’s face got to the Kellogg’s box lol

          • The box has a picture of her on the PODIUM, like it had just aired on NBC DELAYED board cast and like magic the picture of her with her gold medal is on the box…Kellogg’s didn’t wast anytime.

  29. Being that I drive a Toyota Corolla, write erotica as a side hustle and hang out with my boys for reasons other than money, women or sports, I must be as queer as a 3 dollar bill. LOL

    Seriously though I feel your pain on the last one. My best friend, and best man at my wedding, is not exactly macho. He’s not into sports much, doesn’t chase women that much (though it isn’t like he never dates as much as he isn’t trying to compete with Iceberg Slim), and he’s a regular dude when it comes to money. Heck, he was also in the drama club in high school. However, I’ve known dude since the 1st grade, and he’s one of the closest people to me. Every now and the, we’ll meet up for a few beers and to just shoot the breeze. It’s good to have a few good friends to just talk to without having to be a super manly man about it.

    The thing that’s perplexed me, especially as I’ve gone north of 30, is that only Black men in America have to be Real Men, All The Time ™. Those dudes with real money and power don’t have to do all of that mess. They can do something less than manly, or even stereotypically gay, without having to validate their essential existence as a man. Only Black men have to go through all of those shenanigans. People talk about Black Medici and Obsidian as being over the top, but in a sad way, they have a point. We live in a culture where it’s better to be hyper-masculine than show any sort of weakness. It’s a sad reflection of our lack of cultural, political and financial power.

    Heck, even think about all the tongue-in-cheek remarks about me being a White guy. Why? Because I talk about feelings, and only White dudes can do that without people wondering who did they suck off last night. ;) I envy White guys for this, and this only. If giving up the stereotype of being a well-endowed a$$-kicker who won’t be dominated means I get to talk about how I had a bad day or even just allow someone into my emotional space, well…get me some of those snug fit condoms, please!

    • “The thing that’s perplexed me, especially as I’ve gone north of 30, is that only Black men in America have to be Real Men, All The Time â„¢. Those dudes with real money and power don’t have to do all of that mess. They can do something less than manly, or even stereotypically gay, without having to validate their essential existence as a man. Only Black men have to go through all of those shenanigans.”

      do you think this is a class thing or a culture thing?

    • A: never thought you were white but you thought I was light skin until i put up q picture so don’t know what that was about. B: it’s culture bc the African men that I have met are not American masculine (probably the reason why I am more attracted to non American black men).

    • Nice comment, Todd. I think you make great points. I think hip hop culture, though not totally responsible for this, has definitely exacerbated it. But the funny thing about hip hop is that while it is unabashedly homophobic it also celebrates some very non-masculine things, like loving fashion designers and haute couture fashion, drinking champagne and driving feminine cars.

      • Good point Val, because it brings up two contradictory strains of thought in hip-hop. For one, since it’s spoken lyrics as opposed to sung, and the mise-en-scene is generally limited for most performances, there’s not a lot of room to dance around or hide ideas that exist in the emcee’s head. I think hip-hop has gotten nailed for just saying a lot of things that have always hung around Black music but weren’t explicit said (and I don’t mean cursing either).

        On the flip side, there’s always been this whole nouveau riche mindset around hip-hop where rappers actively try to copy the lifestyles of the rich and famous without really understanding what they’re doing. While there are guys like Kanye West who consciously get what they’re trying to act like, I think for a lot of dudes on the come-up who don’t know better, effeminate = rich = powerful. The first part doesn’t sink into their heads, and by the time it does, they tend to have outgrown that mindset anyway.

  30. I went full social media blackout yesterday and my homegirl sent me a picture of Bolt and Pryce…we have beef for the next 3 months. Also that Bailey nigga looks uber suspect. However my list is different

    1. That comfortable with sexuality is the most suspect line. I just think of that SVU episode with Michael Beach and his down low crew and they all saying they not gay they just do gay things and go home to they wives, basically they were just comfortable with their sexuality to do those things

    2. No exception if its YOUR car. Your mother gave it to you, blue book it and buy something with testosterone

    3. When in doubt on anything on the list, invite a chick with you. If other dude feels slighted he might be…
    __________________

    4 Been in jail 5+ years- 5 years, something happened, i’m judging (from afar cuz I mean you did just do 5 years i dont want that problem)

    5. Too Manly- Like super duper alpha male, perpetuates every man stereotype, drinks beer for breakfast, only watches sports and Spike TV (is it me or does Spike TV fuggin suck now, then again its a Viacom station so of course it sucks now). Basically overcompensates like a muh

    6. Just doesnt get any pink matter…like at all- There was this one dude I used to work with, everyone would wonder if he was gay, I thought he was just a virgin. Someone countered, in the internet era how people still not getting any, its easier to get laid (he said something that would get me moderated) than get a job

    • “That comfortable with sexuality is the most suspect line”

      The problem is, people use this line incorrectly. They use it as a pass to do gay sh!t with no motive or purpose behind it. Like you can’t walk around the house with pumps on and then when I catch you, turn around and say “Dawg it ain’t no thang. I’m comforable with my sexuality.” No. That don’t fly, pimpin’. Now, if you had to wear heels or dress up as a woman for a play, movie, or whatever, THEN the “sexuality” line applies. Because there’s a purpose behind it. Just don’t play the role of a woman TOO much or else THAT becomes suspect.

  31. What I find interesting about this conversation is how just a few days ago some of you were quick to jump to the defense of Gabby Douglas when others criticized her hair, saying we should instead focus on her achievements. Fast forward to today when people are questioning Bailey’s sexuality (over a tattoo of all things)… and it’s crickets. IMO, questioning a man’s sexuality is way worse than criticizing someone’s hair. As is the case with Douglas, shouldn’t we also just be proud of Bailey’s accomplishments and leave the rest alone?

      • WIP, you CAN’T be serious. Please tell me you’re joking and you really aren’t ridiculous enough to talk about a girl who has the exact same hair-do as nearly every gymnast who has ever competed in the Olympics. Please tell me that you realize that someone like Gabby works out 6-9 hours a day, sweats constantly, and can’t afford to have hair chemicals dripping into her eyes, or any hair at all for that matter getting in the way of her vision while she attempts world-class gymnastics. On the real, I’m begging you to tell me that you can’t possibly be that shallow, uninformed and downright ignorant as to say anything about the hair-do of someone who dedicates themselves to greatness, and not a Bronner Brothers minstrel lookin-use my hair as an excuse not to work out-my hair is more important than my job-I judge other black women based on their hair and not their talents-type of person…right?

        • I made this exact argument on another blog. I thought the hair style was part of the uniform since they all wear it slicked back and in a tight ponytail. I just didn’t/don’t get what the fuss was/is about.

        • Well when you put it that way…yes, I guess I can be. The first time I saw her perform her hair looked bad. If it’s ignorant, uninformed and shallow to say someone’s hair looks bad then so be it.

          • Yeah,it’s definately shallow,ignorant,and devilishly petty when a 16 yr old girl has achieved what 99.99% of past,present and future 16 yr old will never achieve but somehow,and thanks in part to African American women her hair becomes an issue(let’s face it,a sista started that mess).She went to win a gold medal in gymnastics not a gold medal in weave wearing contest.

      • You must not be athletic…because your shyt is going to sweat if you’re working out ALLLLLL the time, practicing ALLLL the time.

        That’s why I felt the chatter about Gabby’s hair is slave talk.

        • I’m not athletic but I work out. Mattafact, my hair is about to get sweaty in a few minutes. Please believe I know what hair does when it sweats. LOL What was the other chatter? Her hair did look messy the first time I saw her. It looked nice another time. I don’t understand why saying someone’s hair look bad is slave talk.

          • Easy. There was zero criticism of White gymnasts whose hair was just as messy. We are obessed with naps, and not having those naps showing. Gabby worked her azz off, that it shouldn’t matter that her hair wasn’t perfect. We hate naps. The end.

          • It’s not slave talk. It’s a simple observation. I noticed it too and I love naps. Because of the history of black women’s hair, any time anyone has anything bad to say, some people will get very angry, regardless of the intention behind the words. That’s just a reality the we have to deal with.

        • Partially. Gabby defense comes from being a young girl,Bailey is a grown ass man with a questionable tattoo. I brought up the winning factor was that he trended on Twitter not because he won or simply wowed audiences with his performance its because of thirst alone.

        • Why would he be joking? American culture places a premium on winning when it turns it eye on the sports world. In this case, winning would have been achieving any of the top three spots, but he didn’t. Thus, America doesn’t see what he’s done as a significant accomplishment, so he won’t be celebrated/defended.

          Second, why would you get a lips tattoo on your neck when the most notable mainstream figure with this tattoo is Soulja Boy (has he grown up to Soulja Man yet?) and the dude who started the trend has covered his?
          http://www.uvtblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kenyon_martin_cover-lips_tattoo.png

    • The implications of criticizing a black woman’s hair are on an individual nowhere near as bad as questioning a man’s sexuality. But he mindset behind and the implications of doing so are why it can be so problematic to bring up the hair thing. But that’s neither here nor there.

      You bring up a really interesting point. I think it speaks to the rigidness of masculine identity and the strength of the social forces that maintain it. It comes from both men and women and is only highlighted by how it starkly it contrasts the equality movement for women, which is marked by a lack of social boundaries and the idea that women can determine their own niche be it traditionally masculine or feminine.

      Also highlighting that point was the post about how we would react in life or death circumstances. Opinions about how we would react were mixed, but I think the general consensus about how men should react was that men still have the responsibility and expectation to protect their women even at the expense of their lives and will face social ridicule if they don’t. I’m not speaking to the righness or wrongness of this, just to the strongly ingrained and rigid the roles of masulinity are in society, and how evident they are from the major pushback by any minor deviations from those boundaries.

      • I actually think Gabby’s is a weave as well… but I don’t think the discussion about her hair should have been important. People’s priorities are f*cked… when you can see a young woman accomplish so much and the only thing you say to yourself is “they should have laid her hair better” I think it says a lot about where you place your own values… see definition of superficial.

    • Actually I think tattoos say a lot… they’re permenant for goodness sake!!! Hair ehhh, shouldn’t even be a discussion. I definitely think it’s BS for people to criticize Gabby’s hair at the Olympics. That chick is the first African American anything… what are you? Right. The tat thing… I couldnt give two f*cks about it, but I may (I missed the race :-( ) have questioned it honestly because 1.) It’s extremely odd to see a ghey black man compete in track-n-field… I don’t know that I’ve ever seen that especially with all of them tight panted mens standing a peen length away from one another… I would think it’s like seeing an NFL player looking suspect. 2.) I think men who compete in track and field are FOINEEEEE… and I want it. You looking suspect tho you f*cking up my fantasy. 3.) getting a kiss tat on your neck is like getting a butterfly on your neck… very very seductive and not in a strong dominative manner (like a man) but in a delicate feminine one .

  32. Anyway, people of VSB.com, can you think of anything else totally neutral that a man could do or possess that may make people think he may not be, um, straight?

    Although questioning other people’s s.e.x.uality is not something I usually have time to do…

    1. Growing his fingernails long
    2. Looking a little too “baby-faced”
    3. Being very slim and well-dressed at the same time
    4. Singing in a choir
    5. Making frequent “just for fun” road trips to Atlanta
    6. Having a male hair dresser who’s not a barber
    7. Wearing pleated pants

    I kid…

    Also, what’s the verdict on grown-a.s.s men who decide to get red kisses tattooed on their necks?

    Poor decision makers.

  33. ryan bailey had a bunch of things going for him that led me to believe “hmmm he may just be gay”. 1 – he was rocking back and forth….the way his body was swaying side to side had some gay undertones. 2 – he was smiling. a lot. 3 – he was wearing 2 earrings while racing. lots of athletes do this, but for some reason, when combined with items 1 & 2, it just seemed a little off. and lastly 4 – he had the lips tattooed on his neck.

    all of these things are ridiculous reasons to assume someone’s gay, but all i’m trying to say is, the lips were just the icing on the cake.

  34. Neutral things that could be gay? Marriage. It is the perfect thing for a gay guy pretending to be hetero.

    Not only would it dramatically decrease the number of female partners he would have to take but also the frequency. A big party where everyone dresses up. An excuse to watch desperate housewives instead of sports. Trade the Dodge Magnum in for a minivan. The ability to complain about sex with a woman to other men. AND, all of this while simultaneously stopping all (most) questions about your sexuality.

    This is probably why I see so many obviously gay married guys. Probably the perfect relationship for women too, besides the whole, you know, him actually being repulsed by you sexually.

  35. I’m seriously trying to remember where I was when this fine looking dude walked in front of me, and I’m thinking it was at a pool, and as he passed all shirtless, I noticed the tattooed red lips on his neck (and other places too). I felt some kinda way about that, but thinking he was gay was not it. Personally, I can’t stand tattoos and wouldn’t date a man with any on his body. I loves skin. It is beautiful as is. Tattoos and smoking are deal breakers for me.

    I’ve known men that were not gay, but very feminine in their actions. The way they walk and certain gestures have left me wondering at times. And, who knows, they may very well have been gay and just not ready to admit that. Me no know.

    • On another note… is it just me or is like EVERYTHING an Olympic event now? Soon they gonna have cow tipping as an Olympic event. :\

    • I’ve seen these guys too. They have that slightly feminine speech, say things like “chile” and jokingly mimic women. They may even throw their hands around like a woman. Honestly, it’s just hard to know sometimes. The last man I met like this was married with children. He was quite “loose-limbed” if you will and talked like one of the girls. I’m wondering how did he get dates?!

  36. Well judging from the reaction that I got from the two young girls in Dublin at Irishfest, wearing a Kilt makes you suspect as a large black man. Not the first time I have gotten the mean side eyes at festivals like that. However it was the first time it was so bad that my 2520 friends noticed.

  37. Men who take more than 3 pics of himself a week and posts it on any social media, and any man who wears women’s clothing and try to pass as “unisex”.

  38. I declare that this thread and any comments made about Ryan Bailey’s sexuality are hereby null and void given that Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, Trey Songz, and Soulja Boy continue to make MILLIONS… all on the backs of women who SWEAR that they’re straighter than an arrow.

    ::shots::

    • Oh I wanted to add…

      I think dudes getting their toes and fingernails done is so suspect. I used call my ex ghey all the time for that mess. I know Jayz made it ight and all, but he also said it was cool to get your balls waxed… Are you gonna do that too???!?!? My ex used to get pedicures and I HATED IT!!! I’ll never forget the time we were going to get something to eat and he was like “hey, you wanna stop at the nail shop, there’s one right next door. I got you” and I thought “dis ni99a is so GOOD TO MEEE!! Ahhh”… Until his @ss climbed in the d@mn massage pedicure chair… :-( … I just walked out and went to lunch by myself… smh.

      • I’ve had people try to convince me that it’s okay to get a pedicure. I can’t do it. I just can’t see letting anyone touch my feet.

        Manscaping on the other hand? I freely admit to it. I’m not trying to have my entertainment center looking like Mr. Snufflelupaguss. Besides, I have yet to meet a woman that complains about my doing it. Women that give head seem to be pretty cool with it. Who knew?

  39. I’ve always thought Mickey Avalon was gay. The way women hang all over him would make you think no, but women act that way with gay men because they know it won’t go anywhere. I think he was a prostitute at one point too……women don’t go to prostitutes.

  40. Does dancing send up red flags??
    Some cultures/enviroments creates an expectations for dudes to dance. At age 14, boys dance dance with their sisters/cousins, then once their tools have been sharpened they move on to unrelated females. If your 21 and are wallflowering all night, people are going your batting average

  41. HAPPY 50th ANNIVERSARY JAMAICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    *And you’re totes gay if you drive a Jetta

    • MJoy ah comeback fi show luv to di yahd? Rasssss! Yahdie mussi represent fah di land ah we faddas. #jamaica

      Still trying to figure out some dumb isht to do for independence day. And you think it’d be easier since I live in NYC….

  42. Not necessarily gay – but has anyone else been watching Olympic wrestling? I don’t really know the rules, but if you’re rollling on a mat grappling a due in spandex doggystyle…yeah, a wee bit gay

  43. NBC sucks royally with their Olympic coverage and broadcast. Like many of us, I felt hoodwinked waiting for the 100 meter event. Being subjected to beach volleyball, and horses jumping over random obstacles sent my frustrations into overdrive. By the time they aired the race, people had already learned who won the damn thing anyway.

    I can agree that Sanya Richards Ross is too attractive to have been rocking the bride of Frankenstein’s collapsed hairdo. The weave looked fatigued, as if it was too tired to even try to look real. Ryan Baily looks as if he could play the part of a light skinned black superman. It’s bad enough people have the impression light skinned bothers are soft. But he just had to exacerbate the perception with a COLORED lip tatt. Justin Gatlin makes me think we can be expecting an r&b album from him soon, intensely walking around looking like Johnny Gill’s long lost brother. But props to all of them, as they have accomplished a lot just even making it to the Olympics. They all are champions and deserve praise for honing their talents.

    But what a gift for Jamaica’s 50th Independence celebration to have the island take home the top two spots in the men’s 100 meter dash and top spot in the women’s 100 meters.. Technically the 400 meters as well since Sanya Richards is Jamaican born :-) .
    Anyway, I vote that they start allowing camera men to show 3/4th shots of women track athletes from the backside instead of simply from the waist up. We get occasional glimpses of their finely toned glutes, but not nearly enough derriere shots as we deserve. Too many specimens of physical perfection galloping around them tracks for us not to be privy to witnessing them in all their delectable, scrumdidillyumptious glory.

  44. Can we once and for all just say the only thing that makes you gay is an exclusive desire to sleep with/be with other men?

    Fin.

  45. “Doing something with another like-aged man that doesn’t involve money, women, or sports…

    This includes (but isn’t limited to)

    Getting a drink, going to a movie, letting your boy crash on your couch, walking, taking a road trip together, doing anything that requires you to be in a car together for longer than 90 minutes, going to a restaurant, doing yardwork in the summer time, jogging, starting a popular blog, sitting together while at a coffeehouse, “smiling too much” while speaking to each other, cooking, speaking to each other.”

    I was thinking this was a generational thing…but it can’t be. I’m only in my mid-30s. I have stuff I do with my homeboys. This thing you speak of…it’s called friendship. In some cases, “brotherhood”. If a man’s masculinity is so threatened that he can’t grab a beer with a friend, get dinner, or go on a road trip*, he may need to take a hard look at himself. Every man should have at least one dude that’s going to have his back if he has to go down a dark alley, metaphorical or otherwise.

    *Seriously!?! Road trips? This is a right of passage for most men. It’s rife with shitty road food, music, conversations about tv, lies about women, etc. If you can’t ride out with a friend to a sci-fi convention, a diner / strip club, a concert, or a Tijuana donkey show, you might be missing out.

    • +100 for the road trip! That is a classic American rite of passage. Who doesn’t like going some place just for the hell of it and without much of an itinerary? Going to some tourist trap that is always a letdown. Count me in almost every time.

    • I don’t understand why people care so much either. Seriously. She’s an athlete. She hasn’t got time to worry about superficial shyt. Her hair looks fine. Folks need to move on and have enthusiasm for her success.

      I don’t know about y’all, but to me she favors Michelle Obama a lot.

      • I don’t understand why so many people care that other people care about Gabby Douglas’ hair, or why people believe Ryan Bailey might be gay because he thought it would be a good idea to take tattoo advice from Kenyon Martin.

  46. All tattoos are pretty gay. I swear to god, I’ll be so happy when this ridiculous fad comes to and end. I can stand maybe one or two tattoos on a person if they actually mean something to that person, but covering your body in those feakin things is pathetic. And women doing it is even worse. ALL women are so incredibly beautiful, why they would want to cover that beauty with hideous tattoos is beyond my way of thinking.

  47. Let’s see: Ryan Bailey is an elite athlete. The Champ writes a navel-gazing Blog about “deconstructing AA gender roles and contextualizing sexuality”…yet you think Bailey is the gay one? Hmm…

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