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A Slightly Premature Full Length Discussion About Kendrick Lamar’s New Album, DAMN.

Dustin Seibert and I decided to discuss Kendrick Lamar’s latest proper album release, DAMN. because what else are we supposed to do when one of the biggest artists in the game today drops a project? Exactly.

Panama: At roughly 11pm EST last night, I was alerted via Facebook that Kung Fu Kenny’s latest will-be-hailed-as-a-classic album DAMN. was available on Apple Music (and presumably other streaming services, I didn’t check). I don’t think that we can let this day go by #onhere without talking about this project. You and I have both listened to it multiple times and have some opinions. Before we get to those, I’m aware that the album leaked earlier in the day, then Sounwave (TDE producer on Kendrick’s label) tweeted something implying that the leak might not be the official version. You’re a criminal so I know you had the leak. What did you make of Sounwave’s tweet and then his attempt to subsequently send all conspiracy theorists into DefCon 9 with his picture of Morpheus?

Dustin: It could mean two things: Either Kendrick is gonna pull off some Life of Pablo-esque “living album” move, or Sounwave just didn’t want people bootlegging Kendrick’s shit and hoped that his tweet would stave off the masses until they could buy it legally. The former would be interesting, because TLOP’s constantly-evolving production and verses were unprecedented and somewhat interesting. But on the other hand, there’s a physical disc of DAMN. right now that kinda murders that theory. If it’s the latter, Sounwave was just trying to be an uphill ice-skating nigga, since you can’t stop the leak.

Panama: You know, part of me would love for the conspiracy theorists to be right and we get a double disc on Easter Sunday as Kendrick anoints himself the only official rap God. Outlandish as that might be, it would make for good theater. Aight, so how many times have you listened to the album so far. Myself, five times. I thought it was six, but then I remembered I actually did go to sleep last night.

Dustin: I’m at like two and a half listens. Enough to know for sure the songs I DON’T like (Bye, “LOYALTY” and “LOVE”). I know what songs I really will spin on a regular basis as well. The rest of it is a grower…and if you aren’t patient with it, you will miss a lot of beat switches and mid-song-flow-cadence switches. That happened to me with “DNA”…it’s a dope song, but I skipped it the first time and missed the beat switch, which makes the song even better.

Also, there are literally maybe two or three double albums in hip-hop history that are worth a quarter of a damn, so I would advise Kendrick and everyone else against content overload.

Panama: I don’t think I’m at a point that I know songs I don’t like. I also think repetition makes all songs seem better than they actually are. I think that’s why I like “Just Like Daddy” off of 2Pac’s The Don Killuminati album; I listened it one too many times and told myself it wasn’t that bad. I can say though, that there are a litany of songs that I do like, which includes: “DNA”, “ELEMENT”, “FEEL”, “PRIDE”, “FEAR”, “GOD”, and “DUCKWORTH”. On any other album, liking half of an album might be enough to call it a seminal album. Shit, people call NWA’s Straight Outta Compton a classic and can’t name more than three, MAYBE four songs off of that album, which is where everything gets complicated with Kendrick. He’s not just another rapper. His place in history is already set, now we’re just trying to figure out exactly where he belongs and if he’s making it onto hip-hop’s Mt. Rushmore. Everything gets dissected to the nth degree, though to be fair, Cornrow Kenny is intentionally making music to be dissected.

To me, Good Kid. Maad City. (GKMC) was like D’Angelo’s Brown Sugar album, and To Pimp A Butterfly (TPAB) was like Voodoo, an entirely different direction, more artful, more purposeful, and full on departure. Kendrick didn’t make a leap, he left the planet compared to his prior project. This album is somewhere in the middle of GKMC and TPAB to me. It sounds like the album that would have come after GKMC on his way to making TPAB and going full artist on us.

Dustin: Great comparison RE: D’Angelo. For many years, Brown Sugar was my favorite album, and only in my 30s did I come to determine that Voodoo, despite being a huge left turn, is superior (not to mention the SINGLE BLACKEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME). I can tell you that I strained to like TPAB, and the only reason for that strain was near-universal critical approval. But the fact remains I can play GKMC from front to back and skip only a couple tracks, while I skip most of TPAB with the exception of a few tracks. Will I feel differently about TPAB 15 years from now like I did Voodoo? Perhaps, but that’s part of the reason that I loathe people dubbing albums classics 27 seconds after they drop.

Kendrick is in that rarefied air of being a rapper whose lyrics we actually listen to, which is a good thing for the genre since I challenge anyone to point out his equivalent 10 years ago. But as you like to point out, anyone who is NOT Kendrick laying tracks over the production of these last two records might catch a side-eye. It’s the Dead Rapper Syndrome: niggas become greats only when they’re pushing daisies, except Kendrick is alive, so maybe it’s the Living Rapper Who Created a Classic Album Syndrome. Or some shit…I dunno.  

Panama: I’d wager that this isn’t the album that anybody expected, and since that’s what I’m wagering, I’m guessing that all of Kendrick’s peers ALSO didn’t expect this album and were all listening last night too, sitting around with their crews, looking at one another like, “I mean, like, did he body us or nah? I’m confused. I don’t even know what this album is about.” Big Sean, in particular, since every body has been running with the Kenny going at Big Sean angle. He HAD to be the most interested in what this album would sound like, right? Especially after he dropped I Decided and attempted to go a little deeper conceptually, which I’m not saying he doesn’t have the talent to go there, I’m just saying that “One Man Can Change The World” is Big Sean’s entire skillset in a nutshell: good-ish ideas, better production, odd execution, and lines like, “hope you get the pretty girls that’s pretty at everything” which I’m not sure means anything. I’m not sure Drake even cares anymore because he’s too busy sitting in a Patois 102 class working on his new accent.

Dustin: I’ll say Big Sean doesn’t have the talent to go there. Look…he’s from my home town and we share the same high school alma mater, but Sean is like a Tombstone Pizza…his shit’ll do if you’re in a pinch and you have no other hip-hop options for your weekly spin class, but no one reflects on a Tombstone Pizza, like, DAMN. that meal was amazing!” More like I Decided to hit the skip button.

But I digress. It doesn’t matter if K-Dot was really talking about Sean in the second movement of “The Heart Pt. 4” – it matters that people THINK he was. In hip-hop, that’s the equivalent of a gauntlet thrown down, and if Sean was really about his craft, then he’d fall back off of all this “Kumbaya”-ass, Michael Jackson-Paul McCartney-“The Girl is Mine”-we-ain’t-REALLY-beefing-in-real-life-ass shit and drop a “Shether” on Kendrick. At any rate, the visual of Drake sitting in his home studio intently and shoo-ing away his Werther’s Original-complected chick of the day while taking in DAMN. is quite amusing.

Panama: Alright, since this isn’t intended to be a proper review since I think it’s WAY too early to do that, let’s talk, prematurely, about how this album fits in with his legacy. Does it strengthen it, weaken it, keep it in the same spot? For reference, I don’t think any of Drake’s albums have really moved the needle on his legacy. Drake’s consistency and ability to drop banger singles (and great to ZOMG! guest appearances) have solidified his legacy. Kendrick doesn’t really do that so his album output is really the evidence to measure against. And since we’re talking current day legacy rappers which really includes Kendrick and Drake and a little further down the line, Cole, Sean (I have no idea why), and the Walé’s of the world…

…you know what? Why doesn’t Rick Ross ever enter into these lyricist arguments? Because their content is different? Rick Ross is actually a better rapper than all of them but Kendrick and Drake. Back to the lecture at hand. What does this album, in your estimation, do for the race for #1 between Kendrick and Drake?

Dustin: You can’t just throw a whammy up in there and not expect me to at least acknowledge it. Rawse a better rapper than Cole? That’s debatable, though I wouldn’t spend an inordinate amount of time debating that. Let’s just all agree that Ross makes better overall music than Lunesta Cole and keep it moving, yes?

This album won’t do for Kendrick what TPAB did. It won’t yield all the think-pieces and hyperbole of that album because the aggressive, pointed “blackness” is not at the forefront. TPAB came out at a time when black America had it up to the gills with police brutality and was engaged in a national unrest of sorts. DAMN doesn’t seem as topical out the gate, even though he does invest several bars on Trump.

I think it was important to him to return to the boom-bap aesthetic of GKMC and Section.80 to hang on to the fans who – like me – weren’t impressed with TPAB as a total listening experience. Everyone is stuck on “DNA,” which is only track 2, because the drums go hardbody and he’s spitting like lyrics are going outta style. With the exception of “The Blacker the Berry,” that experience didn’t exist on TPAB.

But the one thing Kendrick has shown that Drake hasn’t in years is progression. Drake is stuck in this progressively irritating malaise of rapping about pining after women he’s lost, all the work he puts in to make other people happy and “singing” that sounds like someone zipped a bunch of kittens in a diaper bag and dumped them into a pit lava like Arnold at the end of “Terminator 2.” One can pine for the “old Kendrick,” but no one anywhere will tell you that he’s releasing the same music over and over on every album, a la Aubrey.

Panama: Yeah, the Rick Ross tangent was a set-up. My bad. In regards to DAMN. I agree, I don’t think it will spawn as many substantive think-pieces as TPAB for the exact reason you stated, though I also believe people will try. Kendrick is a think-piece rapper though I’m not entirely sure he should be. Part of me thinks we’re really just looking for a rapper that makes us think so there’s a lot more navel-gazing with Kendrick. He’s earned the conversation he’s garnered though, I’ll grant him that.

Alright, let’s wrap this up, and make it look sexy. What are your last thoughts, at least on this first full day of the release of DAMN.? Personally, I’m still trying to dissect it and determine just how I feel about it as a project. But that will require me to do a lot more listening. I’m glad Kendrick continues to create music that’s not simple and requires us to think. I appreciate that. I am very curious how this album will be received and digested by the masses. Plus, he’s a man after my own heart since in everything I do, I make it look sexy. He’s good in my book for life because of that.

Dustin: I listened to “DAMN” the majority of this morning as I wrote, walked my mama’s dog and drove to Olga’s Kitchen for lunch. I probably have music playing at least 72 percent of any given day, and the most compelling music of any genre works its way from lingering in the background to capturing my attention to the detriment of other shit I should be doing. A good amount of this album kinda lingered in the background, even as I completed mundane tasks. That’s not a good sign for long-term playability. There are several joints on “DAMN” that I will certainly be playing for a while, but the only new track that dropped last night that made me go Ric Flair “WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!” was Talib Kweli and Styles P’s “Nine Point Five” joint featuring The Lox. When I hit the gym in a couple hours, I’ll be more excited about playing that than anything from DAMN.

However, my guy Vernal, who has a similar initial reaction to the album that I do, just texted me a great point: “I’ll say this much, it’s nice to have a rapper around who excels at rhyming, can express political and social awareness without being smarmy (Common), and strives to raise his work to the level of art without being a megalomaniac (Kanye).” Like you, I will always get hype for new Kendrick. He’s earned our attention.  

Panama: Word that up.

Panama Jackson

Panama Jackson is pretty fly (and gorgeous) for a light guy. He used to ship his frito to Tito in the District, but shipping prices increased so he moved there to save money. He refuses to eat cocaine chicken. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. Most importantly, he believes the children are our future. You can hit him on his hitter at panamadjackson@gmail.com.

  • MsCee

    This aint got nothing to do with nothing but how exactly do albums get leaked? Is it some type of “Annomous” styled hackiong group from performing artists?

    • Lea Thrace

      great question that I want to know the answer to!

    • Val

      Usually someone associated with the artist.

    • wakakaja

      When I was heavy on Okayplayer and Skillz’s yearly Rap Up got leaked a few days before new years, he posted it must have had something to do with ‘hip hop elves’ that leak music. That’s my favorite theory.

      • MsCee

        Lmfao

    • between when the official copy is made/sent to distributors to press…and between the time radio PDs, Station Managers, DJs get their hands on a copy…the hip hop elves get their hands on a copy.

      the process on the legal side has actually tightened up…back in the day albums would leak 7-10 days before they were to retail…the fact that kendrick’s is available today (well, it was on amazon as a physical copy, i think it sold out) but no one really had access until last night is a definite improvement

  • BlackMamba

    It is fire. It has my boy Kaytranada on it!

  • JulianWithTheRedCorvette

    I look forward to listening to this album for the first time, in December.

    • Blueberry01

      Yo, I stay being late in listening to albums, too!

  • ForeveryMountain

    I wonder how Val is going to react

    • Val

      React? Why what do you mean, dear Tam? :-)

      • ForeveryMountain

        Not one thing. But I hope a certain person ( whispers Dustin) does comment

        • Val

          How are you doing today, Tam?

          • ForeveryMountain

            I am good. It is a holiday, good friday

          • ForeveryMountain

            What about you? How are you doing?

            • Val

              I’m well, thanks. Almost done with work for the day.

              • BlackMamba

                Early day for you too? Leaving in 10 and about to day drink like no other.

                • Val

                  Not going to drink but there’s an order of Popeye’s with my name on it.

                  • BlackMamba

                    Oooh nice, what sides?

                    • Val

                      No sides. I usually have a salad with it.

                    • Spicy Kas

                      What, record scratch!

                    • Val

                      Not a fan of their sides.

                  • Can you snag me a large red beans and rice and bring me a receipt ? I gotchu.

    • Michelle is my First Lady

      She has already started!

      • ForeveryMountain

        You know our girl Val

        • Michelle is my First Lady

          Gotta love her!

    • BlackMamba

      Please let me in on this joke lol.

      • ForeveryMountain

        Let me try to precis as much as possible, hopefully with little errors. Dustin is a contributor to this site, and one day he got in his with a commentor, telling her that she can not keep a man ( I can not remember the exact phrase he used) and went on about his light skinned wife etc etc. Fast forward to a couple months aback, he wrote another piece on the implosion of his marriage. And most persons where sympathetic, until another commentor used the words which he had previously used on the female commentor. And Dustin didn’t like it, called the commentor a porch monkey, found him on twitter and attacked him there. So once he pops in the ‘porch monkey’ is thrown back at him. Long and short he has not been forgiven.

        • Val

          Great job, Tam.

        • Michelle is my First Lady

          I wish we could get an explanation from Dustin, but he tends to avoid it all. Eh, I guess it is something that shouldn’t be rehashed.

        • BlackMamba

          Wow. That’s a lot to take in lol. Why did Dustin get so mad?

          • ForeveryMountain

            Who knows but I think he is one of those persons who can dish it but can not take it

          • LMNOP

            He started about a year ago with a long drawn out piece insulting Black women, “Maybe you’re single because you’re whack.”

            It wasn’t like he just got in a heated argument, this was a premeditated and unprovoked attack on Black women. And then he went on to continue this type of sht.

            • BlackMamba

              Thank you for telling me. I have no time for n*ggas who hate black women.

              • LMNOP

                That’s my thoughts on the subject too.

              • L8Comer

                So FYI: if you do choose to go digging thru the archives, the original “maybe you’re single cuz you’re wack” article was edited after posting. The edited version was to read as less of an attack on BW, but even in edited version, there were no takers on the thinly veiled missive.

                Also, the authors previous bio lauded his possession of a (non-black) peurto rican wife. That coupled with the article didn’t go over well…

                When commenters took issue, the author attacked # women in the comments that day and was subsequently dragged and trolled (shout out too Ruby Woo Hoo). some days? weeks? later author stalked and harassed a male commenter on twitter hurling racial slurs and comparing him to a monkey… male commenter is also dark skinned btw and author resembles ice t.

                When author ended up divorce everyone wondered… could it be cuz he’s wack? The question was posed by the male commenter who he attacked before, and the author responded by calling him a p 0 r c h monkey (again). all heII broke loose.

                • PriceIsRightHorns

                  Ice-T!

                  *slumps over in chair*

                  • Blueberry01

                    He does, though.

          • Janelle Doe

            To be fair, the anger was probably fairly distributed in both the recent marriage piece a d the original explosive piece in which it was purported that BW were sigle because they were whack.
            You may be able to find both articles if you look up articles on VSB by author.

  • Val

    Alls I know about Kendrick Lamar is that he is sometimes referred to as K-Dot. Learned that last night right here on VSB. Also, something is wrong with the post. I can only see Panama’s part. #shruglife

    So, I’m just going to leave this here for your listening pleasure.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymm3A5lSGwo

    • Michelle is my First Lady

      The shade, Val. LOL.

      • Roz

        You caught that too?? Val never lets go..lol

        • Michelle is my First Lady

          She will never forget.

        • LMNOP

          I think a certain contributor who’s name rhymes with Mustin has exhibited some pretty appalling behavior on enough occasions that there is no need to let go. This is how he is and he has no intention of changing or even apologizing.

          • Dustin John Seibert

            I didn’t intend to offend er’rybody. I just be wilin’ out with my words sometimes. Gotta be more aware n’ s$#@ next time.

            • Janelle Doe

              Glad to see you understood you were wilin’ out sometimes.
              Any chance you’ll write a further reflective piece that may include an apology?
              And does next time imply you have some posts coming up? Should be interesting to read.
              *genuine curiosity

          • miss t-lee

            None.

    • I Came I Saw

      Good GRIEF she’s pretty. The song was very nice too. But sheesh.

      • AF

      • Looking4Treble

        Agreed. She is stunning, and has a unique voice. Val, thanks for putting us on.

        • SororSalsa

          One of Jorja’s songs was used in Season 1 of Insecure. Check out “Where Did I Go”

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meP1neJrguw

          • Nortey

            I LUV THAT SONG. I sent it tuu my mama, poppa and all my bruddas n my lil sista. It’s like velvet.

          • Looking4Treble

            Will do, thanks :-)

    • panamajackson

      Shade is strong with you.

      • Val

        It’s an art, PJ. :-) Oh and did you listen to the song?

        • panamajackson

          I did. I’m familiar with her now, because of Drake. Her voice is crazy.

          • Janelle Doe

            Drake did something useful musically for a change? Yay

          • Dustin John Seibert

            Yo she’s GORGEOUS. I been sleeping.

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    • LMNOP

      I was just coming down here to say how hard it was to try to read this and only read Panama’s parts, I just gave up.

    • Darkchloe144

      That shade will keep me cool all summer.

    • Mr. Mooggyy
      • Val

        Not petty at all.

    • Zil Nabu

      She is stunning and that red lip is slaying everybody and everything.

    • Me

      As soon as I saw the first sentence, I came straight to the comments to see if this would be here. #ouch

    • TCB

      Val do you listen to Kali Uchis or Nao?

      • Val

        I like Nao. Haven’t really checked out Kali. I like Fool To Love.

        • Glo

          Nao is my fave right now. “In the Morning” is my song.

          • Nortey

            Girlfriend is mine.

        • miss t-lee

          Kali is good, I think you’d dig her Val.

          • Val

            On your recommendation I’m definitely going to check her out. I’ll listen to her this weekend.

            • miss t-lee

              Some of her songs are hit or miss, but I like more of them than I don’t.

      • miss t-lee

        I ove Kali Uchis.

    • L8Comer

      All i saw was panamas part too.

      • Val

        Lol

    • L8Comer

      Dope song too. She’s always stunning

      • Val

        I hope you are having a good Friday, L! See what I did there. :-)

        • L8Comer

          I do :) I listened to Kendrick all morning, left work early(cuz ill), witnesssd an Easter parade, am feeling Bette-ish, got put on to new music (thanks), and got to chat with you :) what else could a girl want?

          How’s your weekend looking?

          • Val

            *eHUG* I hope you keep feeling better.

            Sorting, packing boxes. We’re moving. So, it’s going to a working weekend. But that’s cool. I’m looking forward to moving.

            • L8Comer

              Oh wow, congrats! Where u going? What’s the new spot like?

              • Val

                Thanks. :-) Same area. Very quiet.

                • L8Comer

                  Nice :) have a safe, productive, and quick move.

                  • Val

                    Thanks.

            • LMNOP

              Good luck with the move! I hate the actual process of moving all your stuff, but it sounds like this will be a good thing.

              • Val

                Thanks, L. We are taking this move as an opportunity to go minimalist. We’re getting rid of about 80% of our stuff. It’s going to feel so good to get rid of clutter and other stuff we rarely if ever use.

          • LMNOP

            I hope you feel better!

    • Spicy Kas

      Shade

    • miss t-lee

      Val so dedicated. I could only see one part as well. So we’re >here<.

    • cakes_and_pies
    • TalkNerdyDeuxMe

      Had to watch the video twice, because all I could see was her hair the first time.

    • Blueberry01

      Her voice reminds me of Alessia Cara.

      • Val

        She doesn’t look like Adwoa to me.

        • Blueberry01

          No? That was the first person that came to mind. Perhaps, it’s the hair and facial structure…

        • Blueberry01

          Actually, I take that back : FKA Twigs mixed with a younger Sade.

    • NomadaNare

      Do dark skinned singers exist in the UK

    • Holy Room

      *howwwwls*!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jahna

    I’ve listened a few times and keep asking myself, “So is Kendrick a Hebrew Israelite now or nah?”

    • A Point of Interest

      Hmm.

      Does it matter either way?

      • Jahna

        Not really, it would just be an added piece of context for me

    • TCB

      In the fear of coming off more hotep than I’d like I will say the “Israelite” talk is one thing I was def in line with.

  • Shout to Dustin for making me homesick.. I miss Olga’s Kitchen…. shout to the West Side and Cass..

    Oh about the album
    ..I got nothing..lmao

    • Jae Starz

      Happy to see I’m not the only one. Haven’t heard the album. Just here under the dryer reading the comments waiting for this hour to pass.

      • **waits around to see Jae’s hair…**

        • Jae Starz

          Haha!! Nothing fancy over here.

      • Roz

        I haven’t bought an album in forever. Straight singles over here.

        • Jae Starz

          Seriously tho! There are a few folks that I’ll buy whole albums but not many. Last I bought was Maxwell.

          • Dustin John Seibert

            Maxwell is one of my all-time faves and he kinda dropped the ball a bit on this last one.

    • Dustin John Seibert

      Yo that spinach pie and Olga salad? The LICK.

      You gotta hit me up next time you are in the D. We can cooooooordinate!

      • Bet!!! My baby sister graduates from law school next month.. I will be home then.. I will hit you on fb.

  • Afternoon VSB, VSS!
    I see we’re in rare form today.
    Everybody good?

    • Roz

      I’ve been laying in bed all day, tis sad. Like there’s a whole world outside, Roz. C’mon!

      • LMNOP

        I took a shower and got dressed at 2 pm today. Sometimes you need a lazy day to just regain your sanity.

        • Roz

          Yasss!! Plus I was away from home for 2 weeks. I haven’t been in my bed yet, just sleeping on the couch. Might be something going on there but I’m not sure yet.

          • I haven’t made it upstairs since the new tv…

        • Ellamenno!
          Totally agree.
          (Still not dressed)

        • Lord didn’t die so you could be up before noon. Respect.

      • Im stuck in for the rest of the day. I got a craft job making selfie frames with a side order of moustaches, eyeglasses and bowties on little wooden sticks.

    • BlackMamba

      Drinking at a bar and reading comments. Y’all are too funny. I’m glad I started posting.

      • Roz

        At a bar? Ma’am it’s 2pm…im not judging at all but where is this bar?

        • BlackMamba

          I’m a guy lol but I do wrire like a woman loo.

          • Roz

            Oh Lord…Sir, my mistake. *Edited* btw, is your screen name ode to THE Black Mamba?

            • BlackMamba

              I live in Michigan near Detroit. Its the Midwest, the white guy next to me is drunker than me. He told me his whole life story and brought me shots.

          • Spicy Kas

            You and Claymore should marry

      • miss t-lee

        I’m on the couch sipping, cheers.

      • Blueberry01

        Welcome, Black Mamba!!! I hate Kobe, but I like you.

    • Spicy Kas
      • So that’s what you look like. I imagined you being a pretty boy for some reason.

        • That’s a funny fuckin guess tho, lol
          Kudos.

        • ForeveryMountain

          He acts as a prima donna?

          • Spicy Kas

            Tamstigator doing what what she does

            • ForeveryMountain

              I apprenticed under you, so you did your job well wise master

      • Kas bout to start selfie night.

        • ForeveryMountain

          Not today satan not today

        • Val

          Nope.

      • Zil Nabu

        Oohhh, you’re a guy. Who knew?!

        • ForeveryMountain

          Everyone

        • Spicy Kas

          How could you not know, as full of sh*t as I am.

      • Val

        Kashmir! Looking good, buddy!

      • Yeeeeesss! Finally I SEE

      • miss t-lee

        You finally posted, eh?

      • L8Comer

        So handsome, my e-dad. What hair products u been using? Looking good

        • Spicy Kas

          A mix of Aussie moist and bedhead leave in split end mender

          • L8Comer

            I stared using Aussie again, been working wonders this week. I used the 3 minute deep conditioner as a leave in lol. Has my hair looking very long tho cuz the weight is stretching it

            • Spicy Kas

              These conversations are why newcomers think I’m a woman. :)

              • L8Comer

                But your all man lol ? anyway, who cares? Everyone who needs to know, knows

                • Spicy Kas

                  Oh, I don’t care, just find it amusing.

              • **stil snigglin @ pretty boy**

            • LMNOP

              I used to use that Aussie 3 minute conditioner all the time, I forgot how much I like it, I should get that again soon. The bottles are so tiny though.

              • L8Comer

                I know… but Ima mix it with something else and stretch it. Pretty good stuff

      • Michelle is my First Lady
        • Spicy Kas

          Nope

          • Michelle is my First Lady

            Yes, I did. What a shame.

          • Roz

            But but but…do it again :)

            • Michelle is my First Lady

              He won’t….out of spite lol.

              • ForeveryMountain

                Sounds like Kasito

                • Michelle is my First Lady

                  I nicknamed him Spicy for good reason.

        • cyanic
    • Spicy Kas
      • ForeveryMountain

        How is the anniversary weekend going so far Kasito?

        • Spicy Kas

          Very good.

      • Nice spread Big Fella, on a hiatus?

        • Spicy Kas

          Napa. Today is my 10-year anniversary

          • Michelle is my First Lady

            Happy Anniversary!

          • Cool Bro Kas!
            Heres to ten more man.

          • LMNOP

            Happy anniversary!

          • L8Comer

            Awww congrats!!?

          • Blueberry01

            Congrats, Kas!

  • Brandon Allen

    I only managed one listen today (how do ya’ll have the time) but one think I know is that the song craft on this album is far superior to his first two. He shows personal progression, but he also shows musical progression by making songs making songs with replay value.

    He’s had awesome songs before on GKMC and TPAB but a lot of the songs on those albums are overwrought and boring. DAMN. is a good listen.

    • TCB

      You think that convo with Rubin yielded some craftsmanship on this album? Rubins truest skill is the ability to zero in on the good meat of a song and serve it up hot 10 times outta 10

      • Brandon Allen

        I knew nothing of this, but maybe. It’s definitely more pleasant.

        • TCB

          They sat down and talked to each other for GQ.

    • Dustin John Seibert

      What do you think of the cuts that aren’t actual songs?

      • Brandon Allen

        Which tracks? Still on a single listen level of analysis.

        • Dustin John Seibert

          YAH. He’s just….talkin.

    • Nortey

      LIES ALL LIES

  • Just Like Daddy is the Worst song in not only Pac’s but west coast history. I refuse to believe people in the studio did not object to that madness. Okay, let me finish reading now.

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