kegel, schmegel

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pants on fire

before i start, i want to preface this by saying that i appreciate the effort. seriously, i do. i’m being completely sincere, non-patronizing, non-condescending, and non-disingenuous when i say that. kudos and sh*t for the effort.

with that being said, it greatly pains me to let many women know that their efforts have been for naught.

all those magazine articles? lies. that convo you had with your girlfriend two years ago that got you hooked to the game? she’s full of sh*t.

what am i referring to?

the kegel exercise, which results in tighter, stronger, vagina muscles during sex, is overrated.

yup. i said it.

don’t believe me? ask a guy, any random guy, to list in order the qualities that made the best gotdamn he’s ever had the best gotdamn he’s ever had, and numbers 1 through 20 will probably be one of at least 327 synonyms of the word “wet”, followed by enthusiasm and energy. “tightness” or “vaginal clenching-ness ability” would probably fall in the 25-35 range, bookmarked between “presentation” and “color”.

now, i’m not saying that we enjoy boning women with vaginal canals so cavernous that each stroke echoes twice, but having a vice-grips va-jay-jay is not the business. it, for lack of a better term, hurts dammit, and pain is usually not one of the optimum qualities straight men we associate with good sex.

anyway though, good people of vsb.com, what are some other popular misconceptions about sex that you wish to debunk?

—the champ

353 thoughts on “kegel, schmegel

  1. I’d have to disagree here. I enjoy the pleasures of a woman who knows how to work her muscle while riding. This is a joy of mine.

  2. Here’s something I want men to know. Let me preface this by saying another important thing: Every woman is different so while I think this is fairly universal, I can’t be certain…
    - The path to the female orgasm is different from that for a man. It seems like when something feels good to a man, they usually want to to do it faster or harder and they will continue to feel good and climax. When something feels good to a woman, (if you get in that spot and she lets you know it) men think they should then go faster or harder. NO. You should continue doing exactly what you did when she let you know it was feeling all kinds of super duper great. I find that when the guy finds the OH YES spot but then tries to deviate, I have to start all over on my road to climax.

  3. *nodding* in total agreement with Bourgie….

    Faster and harder is not always best… control yourselves captin of the ship and rock me slow and steady.

    • i think this somehow also translate to kissing. i do not need to feel like you’re trying to count all of my teeth with your tongue or like your tongue is trying to fight mine. fast, rough, i can’t contain myself kisses and stroke do not equal a good time.

      • oh my damn! i literally had to hold a guy’s head, look into his eyes and say, “SLOW DOWN!” because his kissing game was ruining my mood! my uvula is not a target for you to try and hit with your tongue dammit!

      • OMG you guys are so on point with all of this today! Jackrabbits and slobberhounds need not apply this way. And i hate to say this but, im really picky..and the MINUTE he does something that I dont like.. its a deal breaker..get up off of me and hit the bricks! lol

        U get no “do overs” with me..lol

        Next!

  4. Where is The ComeBack Girl? The Champ has borrowed many of your wet blankets tonight. :)

    It’s so funny how you assume that the tightness is only done to ensure male pleasure… Hel-lo? :)

    Now a kegel doesn’t give you a grip of death, but trust me those tidal waves they create are de-li-cious.

    • “Now a kegel doesn’t give you a grip of death, but trust me those tidal waves they create are de-li-cious.”

      Delicious INDEED!!

    • “Where is The ComeBack Girl? The Champ has borrowed many of your wet blankets tonight.”

      ***look up in the sky its not a bird, its not a plane, its CBG, flying high (Bette Midler) style with a cute little shabby chic duvet. But its SOAKING WET***

      did someone need The Comeback Girl to wet this place up with her throws, comforters, shams and duvets.

      “It’s so funny how you assume that the tightness is only done to ensure male pleasure… Hel-lo”

      you and me are so ***eye to eye gesture***. I think its a rather selfish assertion. I like the sensation of a snug “situation”. But again …yaya’s must unite because for a man to tell you its not the business suggests you now have to RETHINK your own pleasure principle (cue’s the old Janet tune).

    • “It’s so funny how you assume that the tightness is only done to ensure male pleasure… Hel-lo?”

      i’m not assuming sh*t, lol. i’m just stating how i feel

  5. I am AFRAID for the moderation that will have to go on from this Pandora’s Box that Champ has flung open. I think by the time the “Family that Roasts Together” (aka the VSBers) are done with this topic, VSB will be officially banned in ALL corporate environments and in 4 states (Utah & Wyoming included). This will be GOOD!

    *Pops popcorn*

    *Pulls up a chair*

    Anybody got some Na’Latahs (Now n Laters) or Chico Sticks? We gon be here for awhile

  6. Kegels are NECESSARY for the people who’s “sugar walls” have disintegrated (i.e. Lil Kim, Paris Hilton, Supahead).

    If your vajayjay can be nicknamed “Slack-jawed Sally”, then kegels may save ur (sex) life.

  7. I’ve noticed that in porn, a lot of guys are taking their um, thing (ha, trying to avoid being censored) and smacking the, um “V” with it. Gives a new meaning to ‘ beat the pu__y up’ I guess. Either way, it’s not sexy.
    Then again, I’m sure someone loves it.
    Guess there are no universal rules.

  8. i don’t know about anyone else, but talking outside of – ahem – giving directions just irks me. we don’t need to conversate about how our bodies and souls are intertwining as one and reaching higher levels of metaphysical relativity or some other such poetry reading nonsense. a “turn over” and a few (say 50) “aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah’s!” are plenty vocal action, cheers very much.

          • again, i feel like you shouldnt be talkin with ya mouth full! if youre doing your job then (1) all imma hear is mumbling and (2) you’ll absolutely know how im feeling…..everytime you stop doing to start talking, i gotta start over.

    • Well I’d definitely be :( at that souls intertwining BS. I do, however, advocate for telling him/her when something feels good or some old fashioned dirty talk (cursing, directives, etc).

      • cursing…

        lol, you have me thinking about that skit off ready to die when the girl’s all like, “you big, watermelon-and-fried-chicken eating, malt-liquor-drinking…” i’d probably start laughing, to be honest. or i’d get turned out of bed for having such a dirty mouth i started to call his mother names.

        • i will admit, i am a curser….and if its real good, i will speak to the Lord. the plus side of that….i’ll never get caught callin out the wrong name!

          in my defense though…im generally a curser. i have a really dirty mouth just in everyday life. its not a habit im trying to break, in fact, i work to be more creative with my cursing.

  9. Um, here’s a misconception that had to be learned the hard way. Remember when folks were touting that Altoids-before-head business? Well I never tried that, but I DID mistakenly go down on a guy after I brushed my teeth and gargled with some SERIOUSLY minty toothpaste/mouthwash. Dude said his joint was all tingly, but not in a good way. Like it took a while for the feeling to subside. He was like, “don’t ever do that again!”

  10. Wow, this is my very first crack o’dawn posting, but hey, I have the day off tomorrow, so I do what I want.

    One misconception? Okay.

    Young sir, unless you and I have spent some time (maybe texting during the workday, engaging in mental intercourse or whatever the case may be) building up some lust, you should not expect me to instantly be ready to rock the casbah just because you are. How about you get me in the mood BEFORE you jump on top of me trying to take the goodgirlmobile out for a spin?

    There is a living, breathing human underneath you sir, and you kissing me twice and twisting a nip before presenting me with percy the penetrator is not acceptable.

    Thanks,
    8th

  11. The Champ asks for “popular misconceptions about sex that you wish to debunk?”

    NUMBER 1: Women don’t enjoy sex as much as men.

    This is the BIGGEST misconception known to man(kind).

    I have no ‘number 2′.

  12. Oooookay,first,sex is not a contest,2nd too much experimentation is probably gonna leave you needing kegels.And that aint goodatall.
    Woman is like dough,kneed it too little you got yoself lumpy bread,kneed too much and the bread kinda disintegrate.
    Pace yourself bredrin,no need using Jethro’s tool to mash up the terrain.Also no need to do it like you half asleep Mr. get yourself doing some aerobics or something! So you do not crush the sista with your snakey fake a** moves and give all us Neggas a bad name.
    Most important,Chemistry.@ 8th wonder knows the importance of letting the kettle gather some steam.
    Staring?Who the F does that.Kick tha Negga off the bed.He need to learn some manners.
    Kegels is also good for the fellas.Helps with being able to hold the final moment.
    Be firm but gentle and dont forget,lube is the name of the game.
    Sometimes it is just a size problem!On both sides!
    Some Neggas just have little thingamajjigs.Or is it the other way round.
    P.S If you take tips from porn you are so oooooooff the track.It is like a carpool mom trying to get into the Indi 500.Those packs of meat is professional.You better know.And they do it purely for visual appeal.Zero pleasure!
    Just do it the way it comes natural and yoy be feeling fine or use my certified patented method……….Skin and spot Attack.You see me.

  13. *COUGH* *bullsh!t*
    Boi STOP! Boi just STOP! I am so disappointed in you this evening!

    What the hell you mean Champ? That ish is the bomb!

    Of course you don’t want some chick trying to choke the life out of your lil’ man for the duration of your encounter. That just makes unnecessary friction after a while . But don’t tell me you don’t like to feel a little well timed squeeze from the “magic hand”!

    Did you have a bad experience or something?

    Look man, next time you get some let that young lady get on top, then after she drops it on you, tell her to come back up slowly and squeeze them Kegels the whole way up. It will change your life.

    Someone please go give the Champ some and work those muscles right on him so he will never write any blasphemy like this again!

    CHURCH!

      • Actualley Champ, you do come off as someone that hasn’t had any in a while. I mean what man wouldn’t want slide into a pair of fitted jeans… (LOL!) or maybe not. How about some women are just natuarally tight? With that said, I’m going to get my work out on.

        • “Actualley Champ, you do come off as someone that hasn’t had any in a while.”

          daaaaaang. why you gotta put him out there like that?? that’s like me mentioning he made fun of Palin’s baby’s big head last night, forgetting the child had DS. it just wouldn’t be nice.

          wait…oops.

    • “Of course you don’t want some chick trying to choke the life out of your lil’ man for the duration of your encounter.”

      this has happened before though. it felt like i was f*cking a tube of toothpaste.

      again though, like i mentioned upthread, this happened during missionary, and i probably should have been more clear about this in my entry.

      the riding’s a different story

  14. I’m with you Buck. I demand that someone exercise their muscle on the Champ this weekend and show him the wonders of it.

    C’mon ladies…this is the perfect time to give proof to the “power of p-u-ss-y.”

  15. Not feeling the kegels? I think you’re gonna need more peolpe for this one Champ.

    I cant count the times when a man has whispered, yelled, screamed, or whimpered about how the tightness was too good to be true, and then followed it with a hop, a skip, a jump, a twirl, a growl, a holy ghost dance, and then an asthma attack.

    And this is why I think you need more people. The kegels shall continue.

    Misconceptions: well I may be alone with this one, but I am so not interested in hearing a man speak on his sexual prowess before we hit the hay. I hate being set up for failure. In my experiences, the man who compares his peen to a jack hammer, is usually the one whose stroke would have barely qualified for the Special Olympics.

    So I say, shut up and dont tell me sh@t about what you can do…just do it.

  16. The bigger the better….. IMHO, there is a such thing as too big. I’ve had it…. let’s just say the act didn’t last long.

    An aside, I’m scrolling through the horror movies on my Digital box this morning and saw a movie called TEETH, where the girl discovers she has teeth in her vagina! WTF? And who’d want to watch that?

  17. See it’s not really her doing the kegel prior to that makes any difference, it’s when she does it during sex. It’s nothing like it, her making that luv tunnel pulse on your member.

    -JM
    MrSwagger.com

    • “It’s nothing like it, her making that luv tunnel pulse on your member”

      I knew someone appreciated this!!! Kudos to you sir.

  18. Just because it’s a footer, doesn’t mean it’s gonna be good. (Curiousity literally killed that kat on that one…lol)
    Bigger is not necessarily better.
    More like average is better.

    • Footers are not always good. Usually they are 2 pumps and out (there are exceptions). Leaving me pissed like ninja is that all??? I’d rather have a V8.

      And I will take a thick schlong (doesn’t have to be a footer either) over a skinny schlong any day.

      • Toy Lady says girth is much more important than length because of how nerve ending are situated all up n’ through the vag.

        Toy Lady is like a living and breathing google feature for all things s3x. She keeps me informed.

        Oh yeah, she told me yesterday that October is National Org@$m Month, so celebrate w/someone you love, like a lil’ bit…or even alone! :)

  19. Misconception about sex number 8008:

    That you actually need penetration to have a little clima#x. I go to this massage therapist at the Mandarin who does the most ungodly things with my elbows. I can’t even explain it. but she bends them one at a time and puts it under her arm at this really really really really really really nice angle and she massages them with this hot oil. OH MY GOD.

    its the closest thing to a lesbian situation I’ll ever have (not that there’s anything wrong with lesbians) but “elbow se#x” . i need a shower AGAIN.

    • “its the closest thing to a lesbian situation I’ll ever have (not that there’s anything wrong with lesbians) but “elbow se#x” . i need a shower AGAIN.”

      yeah…this is the first conversation a woman usually has before they turn full carpet munch.

    • ok the salon I go to, when I cheat on my regular pedicurist, there is this Asian guy, I get so happy when he is the one doing my pedicure, because the way he massages my foot, and its only one of my feet, but he knows the particular spot, I literally have to hold on to the chair I’m sitting in, and by hold I mean clench for dear life. Cause damn if it don’t feel like I’m about to start calling on Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the rest of the saints….wooooo I need a drink!

    • My BFF swears she comes close to getting off when she gets her Brazilian wax done. We go to the same lady in downtown DC and I have yet to get that sensation while Maria is ripping the short hairs out from my nether regions.

      I suspect my BFF may have a lil’ more kink in her than she’s been willing to admit up until now…

        • uhhhh YES there is. Esp after you’ve been doing them for a while. The first time isn’t so joyous. But if you’re getting “edged up”…to me it feels really good. I think it also helps if the person is gentle.

      • i just typed that 1 minute ago…LOL

        YES. but i think the BEST sensation is actually walking around AFTER the wax.

        maybe some of this bothers men because they aren’t ACTIVELY involved in your pleasure. but to me when you know what pleases you, sex with your man is SOOO much better.

        • Now THERE’S where PrettyBrownGirl will get in a world of trouble! Whew, after I got my first one done ever, I just wanted to rub on it.

          And I did! teeeheee!

        • “maybe some of this bothers men because they aren’t ACTIVELY involved in your pleasure. but to me when you know what pleases you, sex with your man is SOOO much better.”

          That doesnt bother men at all. In fact, the more you know what pleases you, the easier it is for ME to know.

      • “uhhhh YES there is. Esp after you’ve been doing them for a while. The first time isn’t so joyous. But if you’re getting “edged up”…to me it feels really good. I think it also helps if the person is gentle”

        YES! in total agreement

  20. I got a few misconceptions:

    Ladies think that when giving the naledge that:
    a) they should squeeze
    b) go ridiculously fast
    c) forget that its ok to use your hands

    and d) even if you dont wanna do it, ACTING LIKE YOU DO WILL MAKE IT END SO MUCH QUICKER

    Aint nothing worse than some lazy a$$ head treatment

    • “Aint nothing worse than some lazy a$$ head treatment”

      Chuuch! In my younger years, I was just happy to get some. Looking back now, I feel so cheated!

    • “Aint nothing worse than some lazy a$$ head treatment”

      I think that has to be the most selfish and disrespectful thing a man or a woman can do s3xually. I mean, dayum…if you don’t want to do it, then DON’T. If your partner can’t respect that, then ya’ll aren’t a good match.

  21. Misconception:

    That size does not matter.

    D*MN LIE!!!! It does does matter and it does make a difference guys….I’m not sayin that we need the Titanic sailing through our ocean, but the lil tugboat that could ain’t gonna ride the waves right either.

    • Size does matter to an extent. If there’s a little tugboat, you just need to be creative. Legs need to be positioned certain ways, backs need to be pumping, and hands need to be caressing/ touching in sync. They can be satisfying, but it does involve work from both parties.

      Now if we’re talking the size of my pinky…yeah about that. You may be better off strapping on a strap on….LMAO

    • Tresure needs it full grown:

      “…but the lil tugboat that could ain’t gonna ride the waves right either.”

      Full GROAN… huh? say what…

      Secretary Paulson here a.k.a fatcokbrowneyes reporting live from the backshot hotel. back to u Luke.

      this message has not been approved by the status quo.

  22. Oh and another thing …when hittin it from the back PLEASE do not smack our a**ses TOO hard! There is a difference beween an enthusiastic a** tap and domestic violence! Furthermore if you’re not into pain, that sh*t hurts the next morning.

    • enthusiastic ass tapping is one of my favorite past times, and also the reason i’m not allowed in an ole country buffets in allegheny county

    • Treasure: [...and furthermore]

      “Furthermore if you’re not into pain, that sh*t hurts the next morning.”

      ..and kisses and rubs it till it soothes if ur luky. u see a big ol chunk a dunky rolling, SOMETIMES u just wanna lay the smack down but the nare do wells know not how to soothe it.

      signed,

      slow poke

    • well, i am personally into that sort of thing… ive gotten welts and bruises from being “overzealous…” *blushing*

  23. I think men need to understand that women don’t need to have had an orgasm to have had good sex.

    Sometimes, all that extra work being put in to ensure one (especially once “pressure to come” has set in and the moment has passed) actually ruins it.

    • I agree. That’s why I make the necessary moves/adjustments to make sure I get mine. Im like Bernie Mac (RIP) “I got mine, you better get yours”.

  24. ok ok VSB is this fact or fiction: the husband stitch

    after giving birth the doctor has to re-sew a lady’s opening … and he’ll add an extra one for ‘tightness’– hence the title ‘husband stitch’

    say word?

    • Kaliber…please bring more people for your myth.

      I’ve given birth twice and only got stitched up once cuz it was back when the docs would cut just on GP and I was 21 and stupid and didn’t know about natural ways of stretching and easing things out. I had a smart lady doc the 2nd time around who advised KEGELS both before and after the birth because they strengthen the floor of the pelvic cavity which tightens things up “down there”. 10 years later, I have a 27 year old boy toy singing the praises of the 35yr old chick w/the snug fit.

      Oh, and your “more people” can’t be from the 1950s.

    • I am having a baby now and this is actually the latest discussion on my pregnancy board. Some women that ripped during childbirth say that after being stiched up, they have never been snugger. Everyone of us has vowed to check with their doctor for an answer.

      • I’m all natural/organic/granola-type crunchy when it comes to pregnancy and childbirth, so I shudder @ the thought of stitches and all that. A great certified nurse-midwife (or even a fantabulous doula) will help you get through birth w/out ripping or even all that intrusive medical intervention.

        I’ve done it both ways and trust me, natural is better.

  25. It’s gotta be an individual preference thing. Putting the squeeze on has resulted in everything from instant rapture to complaints about my “kung fu grip”. Generally, though, response has been quite favorable. But I agree with the ladies….. I like how it feels to ME.

    And don’t look a gift horse in the mouth….. would you rather have the opposite extreme?? Me thinks not.

  26. We REALLY dont have to go ALL NIGHT LONG. I’m TAHD. IF you couldn’t achieve what you wanted after 1 hour, hell 1.5 on them extra freaky nights, then damn. Besides, getting the side-eye because of your newfound bowleggedness from the fam at the annual picnic is not cool.

    *Not that this has happened to me or anything*

  27. But that isn’t the real medical reason a woman should do kegels.

    She should do kegels unless she wants to tinkle on herself every time she sneezes when she hits 40.

  28. I wanted to weigh in on this earlier, but I was kinda busy having my boat slow rocked last night ans all… post debate party *aherm*

    ***so nice by the way that my ass was 3 hours late to work today***

    now I gotta run to an off site meeting. maybe I’ll get to comment. Or maybe I’ll just laugh my ass off at all of you while reading my Blackberry during the meeting.

    Happy Dirty Talkin’!!!

  29. “I wanted to weigh in on this earlier, but I was kinda busy having my boat slow rocked last night ans all… ”

    Oh just rub it in, why don’t you?

    jerk!

  30. One of the greatest misconceptions among all (most, LOL) “man”kind is he was born knowing how to please each and every woman he will and desires to encounter. Despite popular belief, we women do know what we are talking about. So listen when she gives you some useful directions, a little nudge, a helping hand (literally). You know, it is our body and all.

  31. Darn day job – I’ve missed quite a bit today! I mentioned this in a previous post, but I just like kegels because i can masturbate at work without anyone knowing. Makes the time go by faster.

    I’ve never had a man complain about my stuff being “tight”. Actually, it’s just small on the inside. I’m not breaking bananas off in there or anything, so it shouldn’t really hurt. Although I have to wedge my girthy man in with a shoe horn. TMI? lol.

  32. And tightness I do believe is overrated. I’ve only ever come across one female whom I wished were tighter, and that was because (had I wanted to), I would’ve been able to fist her pretty easily.

    I have large hands by the way.

      • Well my hands certainly aren’t feminine, as I do a bunch of hands on work (partly out of necessity, partly for fun). I do keep my nails clipped, just cause it makes playing guitar easier.

        By the way, noticed you’re a soror. Do you happen to know Brother Dance and Brother Alexander? They previously lived in Providence (as roommates), but recently moved to the DMV.

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