It’s Over Now: Things You Should Give Up At Age 30

Life's a b*tch and then you die.

While meandering through the wonderful world of Twitter the other day, I happened upon a conversation with world the world-famous @areefuhstanklin and @basseyworld about fashion tips for men with no fashion taste. Admittedly, a lot of men do indeed lack a fashion sense all their own. Most of the under 25-crowd dresses like 106 & Park (does this show still come on? I actually don’t know) rejects while a lot of the 25-34 crowd has one go to club (and life) outfit: the button up shirt and blazer that Usher and Kanye West made so popular…

…in 2004.

Yes. Confessions AND The College Dropout came out nearly six years ago. Yes. You just might be old.

Thing is, it was inferred that men over age 30 shouldn’t be wearing Timberland’s anymore. And I’m assuming we’re talking the construction boot “butters”. And that is patently wrong. If you’re from the Northeast, Tims are go to shoes for doing any and everything. They’re all purpose like a motherf*cker. While they’re not as comfortable as their popularity might indicate, fact is, for most of us, they’re the non-tennis shoe, non-dress shoe of choice.

So what I’m saying is that @basseyworld was wrong. However, there are certain things that one should give up once you hit age 30. Here’s a list for those that either don’t know, don’t show, or just don’t care about being a menace to South Central (or South Los Angeles now) while drinking their juice in the hood while watching the boring ass Oscars where Zoe Saldana looks like she’s trying to become PETA’s public enemy number one.

1. Aspirations, hopes and dreams of fame and fortune if you’ve been toiling away for 10 years and you’re still only famous in your building

Look, I’m all for the belief that if you see it, you can achieve…except it’s a total lie. T-Boz’s acting job in Belly teaches us that failure is a very real option. Nas’s acting for that matter, too. More than likely, the comments section will be filled with people saying “dreams of being a rapper” and it’s true. You should not start rapping after age 27. Period. It’s tacky and I feel sorry for your mother.

2. Camouflage clothing items

Unless you are specifically called away to a combat zone by the Secretary of Defense, you look like a damn fool. Camo is generally a bad fashion statement anyway, unless you are a Que and also wear purple and gold boots – a combo that is ONLY okay if you’re a Que, kind of like pink and green – but there comes a point where there just is no good reason to put on camo. I’d wager that when rappers stop wearing is that point (like now) but I’ll give you until 30.

3. Cheap colognes and oils from the subway/Metro man

Step your grown person sh*t up and pay for a real fragrance. If you want to smell homeless, then okay, but generally cheap sh*t smells like cheap sh*t.  Go to a real counter and somebody who charges you sales tax.

4. Music that includes odd associations with something called a Wacka Flocka Flame

Wacka’s associations go all over the place from Gucci to Shawty LO to people with worse names. Basically, I’m saying that upon reaching age 30, you should give up on any music from Atlanta that doesn’t involve somebody who worked with the Dungeon Family. Word.Life.

5. Outfits that intentionally include sweat pants

Sweatpants, while all purpose, are really not going to get you too far in life. At a certain point – and yes DC, I’m looking at you – sweat pants should be used for just that, sh*t that makes you sweat. I’ve seen way too many old ass men running around in overpriced designer sweatsuits thinking that looked good. It.did.not.

6. The apostrophes in your name

You know, if you ghetto and all.

7. Dreams of f*ckin’ an R&B b*tch

Biggie dead. Your dream should be too.

That’ll do, pig.

So what else should folks be giving up when they turn 30?

Explore. Explain.

D’extra Wiley.

(Wow. Mo’Nique won!)

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL, HE A 3

433 thoughts on “It’s Over Now: Things You Should Give Up At Age 30

  1. Women…please give up Baby Phat, Apple Bottom, and anything that will have that 4th post baby gut looking like a Times Square glittered billboard.

      • @8th Wonder,

        THANK YOU. It’s like these womens are out there saying, “Well, Kimora is my age and she made ‘em so it must be for me”. Um, negative.

        • @Cheekie, CO-SIGN on all this, lmao.

          In that vein, I would also like to say anyone over 30 (really even little girls) rockin Hello Kitty should perish. Yes, I’m talkin to you too Mariah, up out my face with that ish. Hello Kitty just irks me, I don’t know why.

        • @Cheekie,

          “In that vein, I would also like to say anyone over 30 (really even little girls) rockin Hello Kitty should perish. Yes, I’m talkin to you too Mariah, up out my face with that ish. Hello Kitty just irks me, I don’t know why.”

          YES! Mariah Carey looks a RIPE plum fool rockin’ Hello Kitty. She should say goodby to Kitty…and her own sanity for that matter. Chick is disturbed.

  2. I really dont know what to give up when ur in your thirty’s since Im not in my thirties.

    But I know that I just start looking for my signature cologne, that one smell that captures my life in one whiff, and it just might be John Varvatos’ “Vintage” cologne. I would love some good VSB and VSS input on some good colognes excluding Gualtier, Calvin Klein, Burberry, and citrus scents. Im more of a cedar type of Negro.

    Ladies what colognes get you to turn your head or stuff your face down in the pillow when he leaves? Help a young, handsome brother with no real lingering scent out…

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk,
      Whatever you wear, please, apply sparingly. Women have a keener sense of smell than men. Women are turned off by too much cologne (and perfume). A good smelling man is one that does not assault your nose. Some of the best smelling men, in my book, had on “just enough” of whatever they were wearing to get me to sniff, admiringly, and look.

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk,

      Not yet 30, huh? Wise beyond your years, then, from what I’ve read of you…

      As for your plight, Issey Miyake never fails. They’ll wanna inhale your essence and be inspired to do God knows what!

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk,
      Bulgari Pour Homme, D&G The One pour Homme are good “uncommon”fragrances. lol @ Gaultier, and Calvin Klein staple frgrances you mentioned. I say go to Sephora and browse around,I’m sure you will find something to your liking there.

      • @Miss BXNYC,
        D&G The One Pour Homme is my daytime scent.

        I actually like D&G’s whole line of colognes for men, truth be told.

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk, Tom Ford is a really good scent & anything by the Bond No9 people…that being said also know that none of these is inexpensive , but well worth it IMO

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk,
      Always and forever, Banana Republic Classic. My friend’s man wore this for the longest and I had no problems sniffing him on the regular.

      And yes, I know how the above sounds. We were all friends before they got together and I used to sniff him then too.

      • @lulu,
        ps: Can’t remember if it was GQ (Kobe cover) or the Vogue mag but one of them had a cologne and perfume article. It was really good. Some rare/out of the way stuff/places so you’ll never be scent-jacked. I think a couple of spots even let you make your own.

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk,

      Jaipur by Boucheron….will turn my head for DAAYYYSS!!!! I don’t know what it is about it…..

      • @LovelyOne, i bought a “metro man” oil with that Kenneth Cole Black scent, and it smelled heavenly in front of the guy but once i wore it it got so stale and turned into Poison by Liz Claiborne lmao

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk, this comment is just the gift that keeps on givin’ eh? so far i’ve learned more about colognes than i ever cared to.

      i just wear my natural scent: sexxy.

      mostly that’s cuz i have no clue how to properly apply cologne. i get offended when folks way to zestfully clean all day so i’d hate to offend myself smelling like skunk ass all day.

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk,

      I’m under 30 too. John Varvatos is good for all of his scents. I’d recommend getting the trial pack from Sephora where you can try a few different things. Remember that you have to get one that matches your natural scent and the soap that you use

      • @Plain Ole Peyso,
        To piggyback off your comment. Sephora lets you get samples of anything, as many samples as you want. This is a great way to try stuff out to see how it works with your body chemistry before you drop change on it.

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk,

      Code (for men) by Armani. This smells heavenly on a guy. Panties will be thrown at you as you pass by.

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk, Polo Blue and the Jean Paul Gaultier (the kind that comes in the bottle shaped like a man’s torso).

      I MUST say though, if I like a man, I’ll often prefer for him to just smell like soap or something. Sometimes men just smelling clean and manly is more of a turn-on than being drenched in some over-priced cologne (*side-eye at Diddy’s I Am King, smelling like new car infused with foot-and-ass*)

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk, Paris Hilton for Men. No, really. I straight up yanked this guy in the bar and demanded to know what he had on (and no I wasn’t drunk. yet)

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk, One of my “boos in queue” wears True Religion… Seriously wanted to bite his neck off… SERIOUSLY- delicious

    • @TheHallway/TheSunk,

      Gualtier, Calvin Klein, Burberry

      Why are you excluding those finer perfurmeurs? They don’t make only one scent, you know… :)

  3. Cant cosign on the music post. Wacka Focka Flame may be a new move by Dhalsim in Street Fighter, but his music entertains, like most southern rap!

    I havent worn real camoflage shyt since the turn of the last decade either….

    I think what you need to add is the wearing of any durags. This should only be condoned if you are in jail or attempting to get waves (which you may want to give up too).

    • @Streetztalk, Cant cosign on the music post. Wacka Focka Flame may be a new move by Dhalsim in Street Fighter, but his music entertains, like most southern rap!

      his music does entertain. that’s true. but my point is you shouldn’t be out there seeking and searching for the newest Wacka. lol.

      • @Panama Jackson, LOLOL There’s some people who would say that you shouldn’t seek out some of the old stuff cats listen to either.

        So should dudes/chicks over 30 not seek out Drake? Cudi? J. Cole?

        Now I know your ish was sattire, lol

        • @Streetztalk, not Cudi. cuz his album was trash. and i’m still not sold on J.Cole. he can rap but i aint really feeling him.

          so yeah, Drake it is. everybody should listen to Drake.

          • I’m sorry… I’m going to have to respectfully disagree here. Drake falls under the “should not be listened to beyond 30″ category. Right up to “So Far Gone,” he was (ageless) quality, but since then… Well, it’s just very difficult to come up with something worthwhile to say when you are putting out songs and features every five minutes. He needs to go back to taking time in between to gather his thoughts. *chuckle*

            • I come from music as my father was a DJ for 22 years and I briefly followed in his steps until he advise me to try something different… I truly love all genres of music, rap being the first but these last 4 to 5 years my collection is far beyond Hip Hop & R&B. (Black Male-31, Six-figure income now). Drake’s music speaking strictly on his 2 Albums not all the features. This guy reminds me of my life just before I transition into a successful career and how things (Women, Friends, & Family) changed after the money. Their plenty of Rags to Rich rappers but drake is more like Middle class to Business Class on my third passport type of story… J Cole is from my state Fayetteville NC in my opinion he will raise the bar by his third album… Now if you like J. Cole check out C-Weav from my hometown New Bern, NC. What I like most about these two NC rappers both are educated at the college level, I don’t want any children my mine thinking they don’t need education to make it….

  4. “Aspirations, hopes and dreams of fame and fortune if you’ve been toiling away for 10 years and you’re still only famous in your building”

    haha. Big co-sign!!! I see too many guys in their 30s who are trying to launch rap careers.

    • @Leila,

      What if one is not trying to launch their rap career, but have been actually ‘paying dues’ for say a decade? Should he just drop it and quit?

      Has anyone ever considered the fact that the reason why a lot of us don’t relate to the rap music of today is ’cause it’s made by the teens and folks in their twenties? Maybe we’d like it more if there were more 30-something emcees coming out rappin’ about shyt we can relate to.

      • @Monk,
        What if one is not trying to launch their rap career, but have been actually ‘paying dues’ for say a decade? Should he just drop it and quit?

        Pretty much. I’d say a decade is a great cut-off point for him to start exploring Plans B – Z.

        • @bittersweet’s baby,

          If they’re working full time in another field to pay their bills, why not pursue your dreams in your spare time?

        • @Monk,

          i figured somebody would go this road, which is specifically why i put it up there.

          i think as a hobbyist you can do anything you want for as long as you want. i’m saying putting all your eggs in that one basket. or at least that’s my thinking. if your ass is 37 STILL on some, “i’m just one song away i got to go to the studio again tonight. those bills will all get paid when i finally hit it big…”

          you need to just damn quit.

        • @Cheekie and Muze, i rarely capitalize my comments. my posts always have proper capitalization. but comments? i’m too lazy for all those extra key strokes just to make something uppercase.

      • @Monk,

        I agree with you. Nobody should give up their dreams, if they have found a way to live/survive while doing it as an aside. Artists (real ones) will be artists regardless, so whether they make it “big” or not, they will (and should) be doing their thing…

      • @Monk, “What if one is not trying to launch their rap career, but have been actually ‘paying dues’ for say a decade? Should he just drop it and quit?”

        I don’t think a person should quit, more like be realistic. Everyone should pursue their passion, but doing it full-time for many years and not having a plan B is different than part-time. I’m thinking about a friend’s ex who’s been pursuing a rap career forever. He’s 38 now and still doesn’t have a real job, no real income, because he still thinks he’s gonna blow up anyday now. This is someone who should pursue something else and rap part-time.

      • Co-Sign… The Age merit seems to only apply to Hip Hop, what about Rock, Jazz, Dance, Techno, Blues, Reggae, Soul, Contempaorary, Alternative, POP. Age seems to just be a number in other genres.. Think on That Hip Hop a genres that has merged & crosslines in other genres should be aged capped… If you rapping and your 30 or 40 and you dont live home with your Mother or the homies.. Do It…

  5. “Aspirations, hopes and dreams of fame and fortune if you’ve been toiling away for 10 years and you’re still only famous in your building”

    I kinda disagree….I mean the 40 year old rapper may need to call it a day, but plenty of actors, writers, and film-makers didn’t really become household names until they passed the 20-10 mark

    and this

    “Outfits that intentionally include sweat pants”

    I’d SO prefer to see an older man in sweat pants than his old school “player” look, including gray braids that start waaayyyy back there somewhere (yeah I’m looking at you Charlie Wilson)…but I guess that’s just me.

    • @TLC,

      “I kinda disagree….I mean the 40 year old rapper may need to call it a day, but plenty of actors, writers, and film-makers didn’t really become household names until they passed the 20-10 mark ”

      cosign completely.

      • @charli skipper, i agree. it really depends on your craft. an aspiring model/dancer at 30? errm not a good look, but the writers/film makers/actors get a pass. Certain artistic venues are rift with ageism, while others not so much. Then again, you can dream big all you want, as long as we dont give up our day jobs past the age of 30. Waitress/actress label is only trendy in your 20′s.

        • @postmodern pwnage, Then again, you can dream big all you want, as long as we dont give up our day jobs past the age of 30. Waitress/actress label is only trendy in your 20’s.

          i think this is my main point. good job, plato.

        • @postmodern pwnage,

          I agree that it depends on the aspiration. I mean, being an “aspiring writer” for a long time is one thing, but being an “aspiring Siegfried & Roy doppelganger act” is entirely another.

      • @Monk, I actually like the fact that you can wear sweat suit to a dress suit. I think when your over 30 this should be something a man should can pull off. I do love to see a men in sweats and a hoodie. Also for him to be able to put on a suit or a dress shirt and jeans. That is sexy to me!

    • @TLC, I kinda disagree….I mean the 40 year old rapper may need to call it a day, but plenty of actors, writers, and film-makers didn’t really become household names until they passed the 20-10 mark

      you’re so sweet. as long as their are other means for living then ok. cool. hell, technically i need to stop writing my various screenplays, sketch shows, and treatises on world peace. but, i recognize that right now it’s a hobby.

      to each his own. keep on pushing.

      and the old school playa outfit is where its at. i have 7 of them lined up for when i turn 60.

  6. “Aspirations, hopes and dreams of fame and fortune if you’ve been toiling away for 10 years and you’re still only famous in your building”

    I give writers a pass on this, as unlike music, writing is not necessarily a young person’s game.

    It may be a regional thing, but Timbs have not been acceptable gear for me since the late 90s.

    The Tall-T and/or The Race Car Jacket. Get a grown man shirt, with buttons. If you are not getting paid to be plastered with logos, you should not be wearing those jackets. I never got that trend.

    Sports jerseys outside of sporting events, or sporting event viewing get togethers. I have never been a fan of the jersey.

    Colorful hair. I judge teens harshly if they have purple and blue hair, an adult will be held in special contempt for rocking green weaves that match their outfit.

    • @Dash,

      “The Tall-T and/or The Race Car Jacket. Get a grown man shirt, with buttons. If you are not getting paid to be plastered with logos, you should not be wearing those jackets”
      I’m with you on this…I never understood the reasoning behind it all. Cats down here are taking it one step further with the logos thing tho’…entire cars are being turned into rolling billboards. I’ve seen everything from Cheerios-themed Buicks to John Deere Caprices….

      • @DG,

        Are you in Atlanta? Cuz I’ve seen the Clorox and Tide cars -complete with the empty bottles bouncin behind – as the owner proudly pushes thru the neighborhood. No clue why they have the time, money or inclination to give such an ode to their favorite cleaning products.

        • @bittersweet’s baby,
          “Cuz I’ve seen the Clorox and Tide cars -complete with the empty bottles bouncin behind – as the owner proudly pushes thru the neighborhood.”

          The image of this is both amusing and terribly depressing at the same time (I’m in SC, btw)

      • @DG,
        There is this cat who gets plenty of women with his M&M themed whip. I have seen a lot of them based on cartoon characters and muppets like Spongebob, Big Bird, Elmo, and my personal favorite crazy whip Megatron.

        • @Dash,
          I’ve seen several Spongebobs…haven’t seen a Megatron, tho’. Round these parts, you see alot of candy and cereal themes…Reeses buttercups, CoCo puffs, Wheaties, etc.

        • @shay,
          “theres a Starbucks Frappochino joint in my hood.”
          Okay, this one here officially did it but really, this whole conversation has made me hungry….

      • @DG,
        In Charleston I’ve seen a few pink Dora the Explorer themed rides, a Hennessy, Crown Royal, and more than a few Gamecock cars.
        Where in SC are you located?

        • @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,

          O’burg, folk….I was just down your way this weekend.

          Dora the explorer, huh? Gotta give it to cats for being creative, I guess.

        • @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,

          lmfao…I saw a Dora the Explorer ride too. I mean, I guess they feel they’re being creative, but it’s creatively stupid. Riding a Cheetos car? Giving out free advertisement? Eff your entire life and the horse you rode in on.

      • @DG,

        Yes, the Dora car was one of the most tragic things I’ve ever seen in my life. It was a Chevy Malibu on 18′s. It’s almost as if I’m in a Gucci Mane video. I’m from Allendale orginally so most of my life has been a very long Gucci Mane video.

        • @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
          Used to work in Barnwell and Allendale a while back (some good ppl down there tho’), so I understand the Gucci Mane comparison. Sadly, the same can be said for much of SC in general.

        • @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,

          I’m from Allendale orginally so most of my life has been a very long Gucci Mane video.

          *dead*

      • @DG,

        Allendale has a ton of good people but no leadership. SC is f**ked from top to bottom. You should check out the episode of “Gangland” on History Channel about those cats in Columbia. Blissfully ignorant.

    • “Colorful hair. I judge teens harshly if they have purple and blue hair, an adult will be held in special contempt for rocking green weaves that match their outfit.”

      Ooh, Ron Artest is lucky he’s still got 8 more months to get that colored hair out off his system!

    • @Dash,

      I’m with you all day (Well, except for the Timbs. All NYers are required to have a pair.) But basically, a grown man should have a grown man’s wardrobe. He needs no specific reason other than that to have multiple blazers, slacks and hard sole shoes. Please and thank you.

    • @Dash, It may be a regional thing, but Timbs have not been acceptable gear for me since the late 90s.

      i wil be rocking my Tims when i’m 98 years old. STILL not tying the laces cuz i don’t run from nobody.

      • @Panama Jackson,

        and ppl gone say, “Why that old man got on his grandson’s shoes? Po’ thang couldn’t even reach over and tie them….”
        :)

      • @Panama Jackson, I love a man in tims! This is why I always have a soft spot for men in the northeast espeacially NYC. I was raised in the south so men did not wear Tims they wore Polo boots. Now Polo boots are hot too, but there is something about Tims. Tims and a hoodies are sooo sexy to me. Keep wearing your Tims! Panama!

    • @Dash,

      cosign this whole post. …except for the Timbs. i think they’re sexy on east coaster men. otherwise no. lol

      even back when those ridiculous jackets were popular, i’d turn my nose up and pretend to be deaf if someone wearing one tried to get my attention.

      yep. i’m bad-taste prejudiced. lol

  7. “T-Boz’s acting job in Belly teaches us that failure is a very real option. Nas’s acting for that matter, too.”

    You mean Nas’s persistent pleas of “Yo god, let’s go back to Africa god” weren’t enough to convince you?

    Man, I copped Belly from the $5 bin at Walmart a few months ago because a) I thought it was cool the only time I saw it when I was like 11, and b) it was five dollars. Popped it in while stuck in the house one day and was in awe at how mindblowingly terrible it was. I actually hate this movie the more I write about it, so I’ll just stop here before I kill somebody.

    • @P.,
      The story goes that the studio hacked the script up as they went along because of budget considerations. I know there had to be a reason, that it made absolutely no sense. For years I thought it was just me, and I was an idiot for not being able to follow the narrative.

    • @P.,

      My best friend’s favorite movie is Belly. I haven’t ever seen it but knowing the cast I was prepared for the worst and didn’t want to watch it and have my estimation of her go down. Glad you’ve confirmed the worst for me.

    • @P., gonna have to disagree with you there bucko.

      VSB P states that Belly is not really a movie, but the greatest long-form music video ever created. If you watch it from that perspective, it’s really a great-great piece of cinematic artistry and cultural denouement.

      • @Panama Jackson, “denouement”… well look at you… too bad you used such a great word defending this trash

      • @Panama Jackson,

        I cringed at the fact that you used some variant of the word “great” three times while talking about Belly.

    • @P.,

      I have to agree. I saw it in Wal-Mart for $7 and was like “Woooow, haven’t seen that cinematic masterpiece since college, must buy it now!”

      Got home and was like “OMG, why is the worst movie ever ever made?”

        • what’s sad is that I’m actually from Omaha and everytime I meet folk they always ask if the city is really like it is in Belly. *shaking head* when that hot garbage first came out, I couldn’t watch all of it then and certainly couldn’t tolerate it now. AND it just gives my hometown such a bad look :(

  8. I can’t support the sweatsuit thing….my Parents, in South Carolina, are about to be 50 and they wear matching sweatsuits LOL.

    Or maybe that’s something you can do again when you’re older.

    I’m not 30 yet but the giving up on being a rapper thing…yeah that is the truth. Though you can hit as an actor after 30…

    • @Siobhan,

      I find it kinda interesting that a lot of VSB’s and S’s think one should give up any aspirations to be a rapper at the age of 30. What if it’s a hobby of yours (as it is to me, well actually I just write)? Should one not pursue being an R&B, gospel, rock, or country singer just because they’ve been on the planet for 30+ years also? What about producer or DJ?

      If you’re not making any money off of it, of course as an adult you should be pulling in other income to make ends meet, but I can’t co-sign on killing someone’s dreams at what is relatively a young age of 30.

      • @Monk,

        I’m kinda guessing from your comments that you are over 30 and rapping? You’re reaalllyyy pleading your case here, lol.

        • @Smiley Face,

          Ha! I write and I wouldn’t mind ghost-writing for a few cats because quality lyrics are kinda at an low-point right now.

          I do however have a friend in Detroit who’s over thirty, with a full-time job, and raps and do shows at night and I don’t see anything wrong with that. If it’s not detrimental to anything, why stop?

      • @Monk,
        “If it’s not detrimental to anything, why stop?”

        I agree…especially if you can bring a new level.

      • @Monk, as long as you pulling down real ends in other means, then great. hell, i write on occasion and have still been recording songs because I get a kick out of it. however, if you met me and asked me what i did for a living i wouldnt start it with, “well, i’m a rapper. but i have a real estate company on the side to keep the studio bills paid, ya dig? THIRD WARD BITCHES!”

      • @Monk,

        I more talking about people who ONLY rap and aren’t making any headway. I have plenty of friends who rap IN ADDITION to their jobs that provide their income. For that dude who is like…rap is going to be the way I make money at 35 (and I know a few) it is far past time to stop.

    • @Siobhan, I can’t support the sweatsuit thing….my Parents, in South Carolina, are about to be 50 and they wear matching sweatsuits LOL.

      i think that around 50 the door opens up for any and everything you ever wanted to do. i plan on doing the church socks and basketball shorts and dress shoes thing when i turn 50. i also plan on rockign a straw hat and a wifebeater while chewing on sunflower seeds in this very ensemble. i’m so excited about it.

      • @Panama Jackson,

        You’re just gonna be a “special” old man ain’t you? LOL!

        It’s cool though. Most ppl are never excited about becoming an old person or senior citizen but like yourself, I’m absolutely thrilled about being 50 and older. I also plan how I’m going to dress, wear my hair and just carry myself in my golden years & beyond…

    • @Siobhan,

      Ten years should be the limit on grinding in the studio. It’s kind of like an entry on your credit report; at some point it needs to fall off.

      And a closet with a first generation mac and egg crates is not a studio. I repeat it is NOT a studio.

  9. Men over 30 should give up:

    1) Cornrows or plaits of any kind (unless of course you’re Snoop, then you get a pass) and unkempt locks. If you’re still trying to rock cornrows with a receding hairline, or pay the teenage girl next door to tighten them up, there’s an issue. And if you can’t keep your locks neatly beeswaxed and rolled, then there’s an issue and maybe you shouldn’t have them.

    2) Trying to to find future wifey at a club Better yet, if you’re still a weekly visitor to the club, there might be an issue. Seriously, when you’re a baker’s dozen older than some of the girls that might be in there, it’s time to bow out. At 30, you should have figured out other ways to meet women. And if you haven’t, then there’s an issue.

    • @Anike Love,

      YES! COSIGN ON NIXING THE OVER 30 CLUB WIFING!

      I had to go to a club to hand out flyers for a show I’m walking in last night. It was a “Grown and Sexy in Black” party. Why did I think GnS was like 25 and over? It is 40 and over dudes trying to get at 25 year old chicks…wow.

    • @Anike Love,

      Yeah, I got mad love for the Barbershop patrons. Just let go of the cornrows altogether. Likewise, I’m gonna need women to stop tryna catch their rough edges and force em down with a half jar of gel & jam. Callin’ it baby hair…

    • @Anike Love,

      Cosign on the cornrows. If you are over 30 and you rock cornrows, you are either a pimp, an out of work pimp or just as sorry @$$ ninja altogether. I really cannot stand that.

    • @Anike Love, 2) Trying to to find future wifey at a club Better yet, if you’re still a weekly visitor to the club, there might be an issue. Seriously, when you’re a baker’s dozen older than some of the girls that might be in there, it’s time to bow out. At 30, you should have figured out other ways to meet women. And if you haven’t, then there’s an issue.

      eh…i think that if you don’t read books (and thereby are probably short on Internet acumen) you might as well go the club to meet women. as long as you go to the 21 and up clubs. you shouldn’t be at 18 to chill, 21 to spill clubs.

  10. 1) Clubbin’ every weekend needs to stop at 30. Get some grown man/grown woman hobbies.

    2) Forever 21 is a brand name, not a promise

    3) Your dreams of marrying a NBA player. I cry that you had that dream to begin with

    4) I know it’s a recession, but if I ask what you do for a living “real niggaz do real things” is the wrong answer. This is the perfect time to lie, pretend you had a real job, and say you got laid off.

    5) Get off MySpace

    • @ViK, 1) Clubbin’ every weekend needs to stop at 30. Get some grown man/grown woman hobbies.

      what if the hobby is “club observationating” kind of like bird watching but you just go to clubs and observe the drapes and layout?

      btw, welcome and sh*t

    • @ViK, 4) I know it’s a recession, but if I ask what you do for a living “real niggaz do real things” is the wrong answer. This is the perfect time to lie, pretend you had a real job, and say you got laid off.

      man, i TOTALLY should be have been saying that every time i get asked. dammit. i need to makee somebody ask me that today at Quizno’s.

    • @ViK,

      I agree w/ it all but the Forever 21 comment got me over here trying to contain my laughter in my office.

    • @ViK, COSIGN!!!

      “Real ninjas do real things” = “I’m touch-and-go with my Metro PCS bill, I keep my food stamps in the back pocket of my COOCI jeans (couldn’t afford the G), and I’d be glad to take you to Denny’s in my man’s 1993 Ford Fiesta.”

      Oh, and my soul left its earthly vessel at “Forever 21 is a brand name, not a promise.” How about if you’re old enough to bear children, get the hell out of Rave and G+G (stores that really are going to burn in Disney Hell for even being in existence anyway — people with consciences should not sell fishnet belly tops in size 14000XXXL).

      • @word of mouth,
        Umm the real ninja excuse is up there with stating “i’m a boss” (side eye to Fantasia’s deadbeat brother) as your job.

        Damn I still get tank tops/tees for the gym and dangly earrings from forever 21 from time to time (come on, they’re like 5 bucks!!), lol and my mom is 62 and got linen pants and a halter top from there. She looks 40!! I swear!!
        Don’t tell anyone about that.

        • @RocktheCatbox,

          Heck, I actually get a great deal of clothing from Forever 21… and my friends who are always posted at Saks 5th avenue do ask me where I got this top or the other. I am a frugal shopper so I will look every and anywhere to find something I like…

          I still possess Forever 21 tops (in good shape) that I bought in college 10 years ago… If you hand wash them, like they recommand, they’ll last. :)

          Not one shade of shame in my Forever 21 game. :lol:

        • @RocktheCatbox, Exactly the stuff is crazy cheap. Girl I go to forever 21 to get ear rings too lol. Also I get their head bands because they are really cute. Now when I go I am feel like I am too old to be here lol.

  11. “Camo is generally a bad fashion statement anyway, unless you are a Que and also wear purple and gold boots”
    I still rock my boots on occasion, but it’s been years since I rocked the fatigues…bruhs be getting GQ and sh*t nowadays…Lol.

    Anyway, here’s a few:
    1) Gaudy jewelry (think anything that Plies or Rick Ross would wear). No medallions/encrusted bracelets/Jesus pieces… If you must do jewelry, keep it simple: a watch, a ring (i.e., class, wedding band, etc.) maybe a bracelet…that’s all.

    2) Rims. I say this with a caveat…I mean rims that decrease the value of the vehicle. Cars already depreciate the moment you drive off the lot…no point in lessening the Blue Book value further by putting spinners on it
    2a) Anything that spins (don’t laugh…you still see ‘em down here)

    3) Excuses. Once you hit 30, ppl start expecting results and sh#t.

    That’s all for now.

    • @DG,

      Wassup bruh!!

      I’m gonna have to disagree on the camo thing… If PJ wasn’t paying attention, camo and military inspired clothing are actually very fashionable these days!! Victorias Secret actually has alot of camo patterns in their beach/lounge wear 2010 collection… So umpf to PJ!! lol

      • @BKSweetheart, so let me get this right, just b/c its fashionable means it looks good? if that was the case, Ugg boots wouldn’t be f*cking ugly as f*ck, but they pretty much are f*ckin’ ugly.

        • @Panama Jackson, I didn’t say all that, its all relative to taste and interpretation… I think most “haute couture” ish is f*ckin ugly as hell but it sure as hell is considered “fashionable”

      • @BKSweetheart, ‘sup darlin…
        Don’t think I’ve seen any camo bra and panty sets, but I do like the thought of such things…VS might be on to something with that.

  12. 1. Older men in big over-sized jeans that are embellished with all kinds of embroidery, foil, and rhinestones slay me. I typically don’t like guys of any age in overly ornamental jeans anyway….They look like ladies jeans and as a lady I don’t care for hella bells and whistles and everything but the kitchen sink on my denim. Also closely linked, so I will address this here: Quit dressing in head to toe Ed Hardy. It can be quite “busy”. Pick one….not everything at once. Overkill, especially past your twenties.

    2. Cornrows on balding hair. It looks painful and you got hella scalp showing.

        • @Cheekie,

          There is actually a club in New Orleans that edicted a law that said: “If it’s on the Jersey Shore, it’s not coming through the door. No Ed Hardy, Christian Audigiers, of any of that stuff”. True story. :)

        • @Sula,

          “If it’s on the Jersey Shore, it’s not coming through the door. No Ed Hardy, Christian Audigiers, of any of that stuff”.

          I think this sign has made the rounds on the internet because I swear I saw this last week. lol Love it.

    • @legitimate_soul,

      Can’t take the foil…ROFLMAO! Ornamental was a very kind way to put it. And they are so serious…

    • @legitimate_soul, OMG i have been trying to convince a 47yr old man to burn the embroidered and embellished jeans with random no name brands on them that he insists on buying for the longest. he refuses. has two sons that are 30 and 28 and they don’t even dress like that. swear he’s flyy too. lawd.

    • @legitimate_soul,

      “2. Cornrows on balding hair. It looks painful and you got hella scalp showing.”

      YES! I used to see this nice man on the train on the commute to work every morning, and he rocked cornrows. Like, he braide the 20 grey strands of hair he had left into cornrows. It looked a hot sizzling mess. And for reason alone, I couldn’t fully trust him.

    • @legitimate_soul,
      ITA with #1. I saw so much jean bling last year I thought the bedazzler had made a comback on QVC. I just didn’t get get why a dude would want glitter and sequins on his behind!! I even saw one dude with a dragon that took up like a whole leg. I understand dudes may want to have some self expression but bedazzlement is not cute

      thank goodness I’m seeing less of this trend in the A.

  13. “unless you are a Que and also wear purple and gold boots – a combo that is ONLY okay if you’re a Que”

    Bruhs get a lot of exceptions

  14. I co-sign also on the Timbs being from NYC, I myself, however haven’t worn a pair since 2001. I hate when I see a man with more sneakers than dress shoes. Some dudes own so many NIKE’s or Jordan’s they should own stock in it.

    -Clip on ties. A grown man should know how to tie a REAL tie.

    - I cringe when I see grown men more into video games than children. smh.

    -Dreams of being a basketball player, when you’re just average talent on your local court.

    FOR Ladies
    -Wearing clothes like a video vixen, when you’re older than Melissa Ford.

    -Aspiring to be a Video Vixen when you’re older than Melissa Ford.

    -Being a side chick. Everyone has an affair with a married or “taken person.” In your teens and early adulthood it’s forgiveable and then you can chalk it up to experience. But @ 30 it’s a no go.

    - NOT OWNING A PASSPORT. EVERYONE, MEN AND WOMEN SHOULD OWN ONE.

    That’s it for now.
    lol

    • @Miss BXNYC
      Amen to owning a (valid) passport…
      But I missed the memo about everyone having an affair with a married or taken man…I’m only 23, am I behind the curve?

    • @Miss BXNYC, -Being a side chick. Everyone has an affair with a married or “taken person.” In your teens and early adulthood it’s forgiveable and then you can chalk it up to experience. But @ 30 it’s a no go.

      i did not get this memo. apparently i’ve been playing it straight when everybody else is cheating more than Marion Barry did on his taxes.

    • @Miss BXNYC,

      ” I hate when I see a man with more sneakers than dress shoes. Some dudes own so many NIKE’s or Jordan’s they should own stock in it.”

      I don’t know about this one. I have way more sneakers than dress shoes. I can’t understand why some one would have more dress shoes than sneakers in 2010. Unless you are a pimp, preacher, work on wall street, an executive, or grew up back in the 1970s or earlier.

      • @Humble_One,

        I’m going to have co-sign. I’m trying to picture a man’s closet w/ more dress shoes than any other pair and the visual is… well, yeah, just doesn’t seem necessary.

  15. Sometimes Cami can look hot and be age appropriate. Shout out to the Bruhs, hip hop heads, bohemian brothers, and revolutionary cats.

    • @sharde,

      yes! a few weeks after my ex turned 30, he excitedly told me a story about how he went out with his boys (which i generally disapprove of anyway) and they got into a fist fight “wit some white boys.” ew. the very fact that i was with a grown ass man who, not only got into a fist fight, but also had no shame in relaying the story to me made me do a little self reflection, just to determine the point at where i went wrong in my life.

  16. WTF is Wacka Flocka Flame. Seriously I need to know what is making me LOL @ work (maybe i will give up WTF and LOL when i hit 30)

    • @Crissie D, oh that was a joke. he’s the greatest rapper ever lately. like, when i listen to his lyrics…its like he’s speaking directly to the real problems in the community. he reminds me of Chuck D and Malcolm X, all rolled into one.

      he really is revolutionary. his first song, “Oh! Let’s Do It” is a rallying cry for the Black community to take up arms and stop sitting back and letting others destroy our community.

      Oh! Let’s Do It! Let us be like Wacka Flocka Flame and reach for the crown of equality and justice!

      • @Panama Jackson,

        “Oh! Let’s Do It” is a rallying cry for the Black community to take up arms and stop sitting back and letting others destroy our community.”

        I just found out this past weekend that this is what the hook is on that song. I couldn’t understand what he was saying. It sounds like he is saying “Oh lay dooey”.

        • @Humble_One,
          “It sounds like he is saying “Oh lay dooey”.”

          He actually is saying that but he’s suppose to be saying, “Oh, let’s do it!”.

      • @Panama Jackson,

        Thank you so much. I had no idea what he was saying. I was trying to make it…roll into, it, I influence, or selling music. Because it sounded like oooolay doooooway and that made no sense

    • @Crissie D,

      maybe i will give up WTF and LOL when i hit 30 .

      I doubt it. My mama hit me with WTF and OMG in an email awhile back. Shocked the hell out of me!

  17. i’m not 30 yet. and i’m a little peter pan-ish (shout out to michael jackson!) when it comes to age and being age appropriate. i’m just going to have use my instincts on this one and just list things that i think you’re too old to be doing once you hit 25ish….

    um…i don’t like it when grown men (or women, i suppose) cite rap/r&b song lyrics in daily life like it’s gospel. i mean, we all like songs and pop culture in general, so if a lyric is particularly relevant at a given moment, fine. but when you find yourself basing your new year’s resolutions, changing your whole facebook status, and ending your relationships based off the words of drake and tierra mari, unless you’re still in high school or college, i’m going to judge you. because you’re wack.

    you should give up excessive use of profanity and emotional outbursts on your online profiles. it’s unbecoming, will keep you from landing a job, and makes you look special ed in general. i curse a lot in real life. and on this blog. but you’d never know by looking at my facebook. holla!

    also, somewhere around the mid 20′s-early 30′s age, you should give up bullshat such as this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCe7IB8pjDE
    after i stumbled upon that video, i seriously considered returning my black card. because if this is what it’s all about, i clearly don’t need it anymore.

    • @charli skipper, dear , sweet, little baby jesus…..just checked out that video…i’m wichu on returning the card…..

    • @charli skipper,

      I use lyrics to update my FB status all the time. I’m always able to find the right lyric to coincide with how I’m feeling or thinking at the time. I also say such lyrics as it relates to every day life. I don’t see why I should stop because I’m past a certain age. By the way, I’m not wack.

      “And if you can’t respect that, your whole perspective is wack…”

      • @Monk, I’m also a lyric person–got some on the bbm status right now. I’m very into music. not changing that anytime soon. and I’m grown.

        “I never change I’m too stuck in my ways” *head nod*

      • @Monk,

        i think i’m more talking about trendy lyrics. like when the song first came out (because i can’t think of a current one) and everyone was talking about, “yeah. i’m stuntin like my daddy!” like THEY.WROTE.THE.LYRIC. if it just randomly fits the situation, ok. but a herd of people quoting nicki minaj, just for example, because she just released a single last week and now they’ve adopted it as a whole mentality is wack to me. after a certain age, especially.

      • @Monk,

        I am with you. We do quote “important” people, so why not lyrics? Shoot, I am always quoting Stewie and a great philosopher of our time: Omer Simpson. :lol:

        Inspiration is inspiration… get it where you find it. (you can quote me liberally. Ha! :lol: )

    • @charli skipper,

      i’m so impressed that you remember tierra marie. had to jog my memory a bit. and if you’re over the age of say 5, the overly-emotional reactions to foolshness are a no-go with me.

    • @charli skipper,

      Is she reading a teleprompter or does she have her notebook propped up against a mirror to read her “rules”?

    • @charli skipper, um…i don’t like it when grown men (or women, i suppose) cite rap/r&b song lyrics in daily life like it’s gospel.

      um, you must be crazy, I’m gonna be quoting movies and song lyrics until i’m dead. hell, my eulogy better have at LEAST 10 movie and lyric quotes in it. just in case, i’ll probably write it myself.

      and about the profanity? yeah, f*ck that.

      • @Panama Jackson,

        i ain’t say sh!t about movies!

        and on another note, i don’t know why yall acting like you don’t know what i’m talking about. i’m not talking about cute or sarcastic, funny references. i’m talking about a grown ass man approaching a woman talking about, “well like the song say:you gon’ gimme dat becky?” um………..sit your wack ass down.

    • @charli skipper,

      oh my. that video. i turned it off after she said number ‘three’ twice. wtfness. who’s taking advice from her? 28,398 people are a little dumber after watching that. wow.

      • @Muze,

        Right?! I literally got a headache as I watched and after I stopped the video and proceeded to do some work, I kept fumbling with sh*t. It’s going to take at least two days to recover and replace the intelligence I just lost. *sigh*

    • @charli skipper,

      “you should give up excessive use of profanity and emotional outbursts on your online profiles. it’s unbecoming, will keep you from landing a job, and makes you look special ed in general.”

      Word. I see folks over 40 posting their elementary arse all-caps diatribes on Facebook making ME feel old due to shaking my head at that mess. All, “YOU ALWAYS FIND OUT WHO YOUR TRUE FRENDS ARE THESE B*TCHES DON’T WANNA MESS WITH DIS HERRE. I’M ON SOME GROWN WOMAN SH*T AND i DON’T PLAY THAT TRY ME HEFFA I THANK THE LORD FOR SHOWING ME WAT REAL SNAKES R.”

      SMDH…

      • @Cheekie,

        yes! and then they’ll insert a song lyric there!!
        YOU ALWAYS FIND OUT WHO YOUR TRUE FRENDS ARE THESE B*TCHES DON’T WANNA MESS WITH DIS HERRE. I’M ON SOME GROWN WOMAN SH*T AND i DON’T PLAY THAT TRY ME HEFFA I THANK THE LORD FOR SHOWING ME WAT REAL SNAKES R.”

        then:

        “so up out my face, like mariah say.”

      • @Cheekie,

        I have a friend…(no)
        I have an acquaintaince…(not that either)
        Well, ummm…I got this girl on my FB list who does this once a week and generally ends with, “B*TCH DON’T KNOW WHO DA MUFF8CK SHE F8CKIN’ WIT IN DIS MUFF8CKA! BETTA BE GLAD I’M A CHILE OF GOD OR I’D….”

        Then backdoor and ask me why I never go to church with her on Sunday…
        *blank stare*

    • @charli skipper, I can’t believe i just spend 6 minutes and 46 seconds watching the dumbest person in the world make a complete ass of herself on Youtube. My question is where did you find this video. You might have to much time on your hands and if anyone knows this dingbat on the video please, please, please tell this drone that she is not nikki minaj…….at all.

    • @charli skipper,

      Ha! Was this a joke?! I went through a gamut of emotions watching this…Amused, horrified, confused, back to horrified…wow. As much as I laugh at this sight, this may be the closest I’ve ever come to losing my job over VSB, cause I laughed. HARD.

  18. Co-sign on the sweatpants. If I see one more middle aged man rockin a Solbiato (DC ppl know what that is) sweatpants suit I’m going to scream! $400 for some damn sweatpants?!?! Go by a damn suit!

    • @GEELA, yeah, DC is especially egregious when it comes to sweat pant outfits. its like all DC dudes have at least one pair of Nike boots, butter Timbs, and a sweat pant outfit to wear to weddings, funerals, and job interviews.

      • @Panama Jackson,
        Lol! Panama, you will have to lay them down one day, one by one, it’s a painful but necessary exercise. I did the same with my Aaliyah tank tops.

  19. oh, i have another one! i was reminded by geela’s post about $400 sweatpants.

    um…at a certain point, folks need to give up thinking that it’s okay to spend exorbitant amounts of money on clothes and stuff like that when they don’t have it. at a certain age you should be able to set priorities better than that AND ALSO realize that what you look like is what you look like. and who you are is you are. if you’re a hot ass flaming mess in jordache jeans, you’re still going to be a flaming hot ass mess in gucci. and if you’re gorgeous in louboutins, you’re probably gorgeous in aldo shoes. so in light of that, just do something better with your money. pay a damn bill.

    (i’m not knocking nice clothes or lookin nice, but i swear, if i see one more grown a*s ugly, broke, shallow person roll up in my face bragging about their brand name outfit yet waiting on their paycheck before they can have lunch, i’m going to write a musical about it.)

    • @charli skipper, (i’m not knocking nice clothes or lookin nice, but i swear, if i see one more grown a*s ugly, broke, shallow person roll up in my face bragging about their brand name outfit yet waiting on their paycheck before they can have lunch, i’m going to write a musical about it.)

      knew a chick like this in college. she didnt want to pay for food b/c it would stop her from buying some clothes she wanted. not for nothing, she was a f*cking idiot.

  20. I’m only 23, but you’re never to young or old to get your life right:
    At age 30 one should:
    *Give up on trying “to get chose”. This is a really basic attitude. Bun B was speaking of hos in his verse not ladies.
    *Give up wearing clothes that aren’t one’s size. You can look good at any size, as long as you’re wearing your size. It kills me softly when I see people dressed like toddlers… Love yourself.
    *Give up using Beyonce songs as your MO for life. Know one cares if you’re a Single Lady and think you can Upgrade someone, go sit down and do something productive.
    *Give up insecurities. Everyone has flaws. Either embrace them if you can live with them , or change them if you can’t. In either case stop whining. I think(correct me if I’m wrong) you’re essentially the person you truly are by 30, if not before, so be comfortable with yourself. Love yourself.
    *Give up wilful ignorance. We have an embarrassment of riches in the knowledge department. Read a book, pick up a newspaper, go to a news media outlet online, travel, something.

    • @KayBeezy, *Give up wilful ignorance. We have an embarrassment of riches in the knowledge department. Read a book, pick up a newspaper, go to a news media outlet online, travel, something.

      if we gave up willful ignorance, VSB would have to close its doors forever and become like a financial advice site.

    • @KayBeezy,

      *Give up using Beyonce songs as your MO for life. Know one cares if you’re a Single Lady and think you can Upgrade someone, go sit down and do something productive.

      *nods head and goes back to rewrite my own post*

    • @KayBeezy,

      *Give up insecurities. Everyone has flaws. Either embrace them if you can live with them , or change them if you can’t. In either case stop whining. I think(correct me if I’m wrong) you’re essentially the person you truly are by 30, if not before, so be comfortable with yourself. Love yourself.

      Nothing is sexier then a woman comfortable in her own skin.

  21. @30 you should really STOP starting any sentence with the “when i get my (insert whatever nonsensical thing you wish eg. income tax refund, child support check) i’mma do whatever.nonsensical other thing here …there are these things called bank accounts, hell mattresses if you must, but puleeze, it’s not a good look to be telling folks what you gonna do when you get some $, once a year , once a month or whenever , please just allow us to think that you have a little bit of financial savvy, and ain’t waitin for your child support $ to get your nails or hair did or to buy rims or the latest nike offering, like suggested in another thread, buy some stock instead..

  22. Hey VSB, long time reader, first time commenter. This one must really have peaked my interest.

    At 30 you should refrain from using “words” such as (but certainly not excluded to) ill, hella and yuuuuup and speak actual English!!!!

  23. ladies…ladies…ladies…..clothing with writing on your booty..just stop and the t-shirts with “I love my boyfriend” or “Youse a h8ter” on the front and “You still a h8ter” on that back…um, no

    fellas…for true and for serious…get some pants that fit, you walking around looking like bow legged lou trying to keep your pants up is not cute, and while you’re at it, buy some dress shoes…please?!

    ladies…the skittle colored (taste the rainbow) 3 inch acrylic nails, black lip liner (aka eyebrow pencil) with chicken grease lips (nothing wrong with gloss but dayum!)

    fellas…graduate to locs…please, please, please

    • @Smiley Face, ladies…ladies…ladies…..clothing with writing on your booty..just stop and the t-shirts with “I love my boyfriend” or “Youse a h8ter” on the front and “You still a h8ter” on that back…um, no

      this is true. any clothes that say “hater” are better left in the 20s. also, writing on d’ass is some young dumb girl shit.

  24. I’ve got nothing today. Perhaps it’s because my old azz has a migraine.
    IDK–I’m not giving up my ridiculous rap just because I’m 30 plus, I love silly bs just as much as the youngsters. I love beats that get me hype in the car. My 15 yo nephew and I stay getting down. You can’t be so serious all the time.
    PJack, I do co-sign on the grown folks fragrances. Parfum de Coeur Designer Imposters and Axe body sprays are not the business. Please upgrade that ish immediately.

    • @miss t-lee,

      “Rock on witcha bad self” I’m with you. I’m not a fan of Gucci Mane or Wacka Flacka, but that lemonade song BUMPS. Music is universal and every now and then, I need to indulge in some ignant shyt.

      Adulthood is overrated if you ask me.

      • @Monk,
        “Music is universal and every now and then, I need to indulge in some ignant shyt. ”

        I agree. Lemonade does bump, along with Bingo and Hard In the Paint. You can’t deny it.

        • @Panama Jackson,

          Yeah, it has been pointed out to me that I have a thing for songs with kids singin’ in the chorus. It just makes the song happier and I fux wit’ happiness.

      • @Monk,

        I loathe Gucci but he does amuse me. The line in “Lemonade”
        “AK hit your dog and you can’t bring Old Yeller back” makes me do the Black Dynamite Smile everytime I hear it. When I hear Wacka I just want to punch his parents for producing him.

    • @miss t-lee,

      “IDK–I’m not giving up my ridiculous rap just because I’m 30 plus, I love silly bs just as much as the youngsters. I love beats that get me hype in the car. My 15 yo nephew and I stay getting down. You can’t be so serious all the time.”

      Actually, I agree with you here. My sister is the same way. I think what truly makes this okay is if you’re self-aware enough to know what good music is. I mean, it’s ridiculous if your entire collection consists of Wacka Flacka Knick Knack Paddy Wack and the like talmbout “Ya’ll don’t know about this good ish, right chere!!”, but if you know that it is ridiculous and take it for what it is (pure good cheap entertainment) then I see nothing wrong with dancing to a silly track with a hot beat. It keeps you young. lol

      • @Cheekie,

        “Actually, I agree with you here. My sister is the same way. I think what truly makes this okay is if you’re self-aware enough to know what good music is. I mean, it’s ridiculous if your entire collection consists of Wacka Flacka Knick Knack Paddy Wack and the like talmbout “Ya’ll don’t know about this good ish, right chere!!”, but if you know that it is ridiculous and take it for what it is (pure good cheap entertainment) then I see nothing wrong with dancing to a silly track with a hot beat. It keeps you young. lol”

        The problem is that most people don’t take the music for what it is. People take these guys as legitimate artist when the same “artist” will tell you that he his just trying to have fun and get paid.

        • @Humble_One, “People take these guys as legitimate artist when the same “artist” will tell you that he his just trying to have fun and get paid.”

          exactly. i feel the same way about reality TV stars and “celebutantes” lmao. they aint done nothing but make more money than you so stop being mad and just laugh at it.

      • @Cheekie,
        “I see nothing wrong with dancing to a silly track with a hot beat. It keeps you young. lol”

        I about to start dancing to “Foreign” by Gucci right here at my desk…lmao

    • @miss t-lee, Not 20+10 yet but not too far from it and I SO agree… bump that people take stuff too seriously (except the cornrows and shiney jeans) let that isht ride. By the time you’ve turned 30 you should have worked hard enough to do d@mn near whatever the hell you want…

      emphasis on “should have” and “d@mn near”- really y’all give up the cornrows and shiney jeans-smh

    • @miss t-lee,

      I love silly bs just as much as the youngsters.

      Word. Life.

      I think my rule is at 30, stop waiting for people to vet your decisions in life… If you want to rock, camo, then do it… if you want to quote Wacka Floca Flo, by all means do it… and own it. Nobody but you have to answer to you. :lol:

      “clean on the outside, cream on the inside, ice cream paint job!”… Bwahahaha! :)

      • @Sula,
        ““clean on the outside, cream on the inside, ice cream paint job!”… ”

        YES!!!!!!! You know you are my gurl!! :)
        “I got ‘em hollering out Franky!!!!!”
        *jersey shore fist pump*

      • @Sula,

        “clean on the outside, cream on the inside, ice cream paint job!”… Bwahahaha! .

        I am DEAD weak.

        Oh and I also ride with music blasting!! And I make no apologies for it. Lol

      • @Sula
        Haha! Ice Cream Paint job is one of my go to ratchet songs :) ( Over the summer my mum was talking about hey, do you know a song that’s like “do it ride good?” I was ashamed, but more jealous that my mum was hip to it before me)
        And I agree, even though most of these suggestions are good ways to live your life, at 30 you should know yourself well enough to know what does and doesn’t work for you.

  25. So what else should folks be giving up when they turn 30?

    1) Still chasing after only the “video vixen” type of women for serious relationships.

    2) Looking for or expecting a man/woman to be responsible for your well being.

    3) Still caught up in the latest trends. At a certain age you are suppose to be on your own ish, discovered your lane, and staying in that lane.

    4) For women: still thinking your p***y is on a pedestal

    5) Doing what feels good instead of what is right.

    6) For women: ponytail weaves and any hairstyle that resembles a christmas tree or cockatoo

    7) Still thinking you are still hot as when your @ss-to-waist ratio 42/28 when you were 21. You didn’t take care of what you had and you fell off. Play your position.

    • @Humble_One,
      6) For women: ponytail weaves and any hairstyle that resembles a christmas tree or cockatoo

      I see stuff like this nearly everyday. And let’s not forget the kool-aid color weave w/ the fingerave in the front. smh.

    • @Humble_One,
      4) For women: still thinking your p***y is on a pedestal
      7) Still thinking you are still hot as when your @ss-to-waist ratio 42/28 when you were 21. You didn’t take care of what you had and you fell off. Play your position.

      Bad weekend, sweetie?

      • @Ivyette,

        “Bad weekend, sweetie?”

        Wow. That does sound a little digruntled when I read it to myself. LOL. I just need to find some VSS.

        • @RocktheCatbox,

          I am in Detroit. Most people don’t understand that this city is very “different” and like no other.

        • @Humble_One,
          Yup… I decided unless people I know are having an event, I’m just going to save my going out for when I’m out of town, lol.
          For the record, if you are looking for nice grown up women who only have one hair color and don’t wear airbrushed jeans, on the 20th there’s an event at the habana cigar bar downtown ;)

        • @RocktheCatbox,

          “on the 20th there’s an event at the habana cigar bar downtown”

          That’s in Harmony Park right?

        • @Humble_One,
          Yes, right around the corner from the music hall. should be a good one, the first one I couldn’t make over valentines day weekend. they have good cigars and whiskey and the people that attend are folks I feel like I have more in common with.

  26. Men who wear skinny jeans. Yea, I get it…Lupe Fiasco, Pharrell and the whole skateboard kid movement. But a grown man should NOT own a pair of these in my opinion. Even if he is a skinny dude…

    • @NYLegalDude,

      I fux with Lupe, Pharrell and the whole skateboarder kid thing, so I say ” Hey, to each his/her own”…

  27. aww, people with apostrophes in their names can’t help it. lol. funny most of the people I know that have them go by their middle names or a shortened version of their first name. hmm.

  28. Things a grown ass man shouldn’t be doing after 30….

    Whining. Man the hell up.

    Living with parents. Man the hell up. (exceptions made if you are their care giver.)

    Hanging art on the wall without a frame or by using tape. BTW, swimsuit magazine photos should no longer constitute “art” for the purposes of home decor.

    Sleep on a bare mattress.

    Give shout outs publicly and loudly.

    Put less than $10 worth of gas in your empty fuel tank.

    • @Caballeroso,

      i had a very troubling experience on a date once when this 32 yr old man put $8 worth of gas in his almost on ‘E’ Acura on our first date.

      i asked why he did that and his response was that his car is ‘good on gas’.

      date #2 neva eva happened.

      • @Muze, wow!! Did y’all go Dutch for the rest of the evening? Can’t believe he could pay for dinner, movie, etc…if he only had $8 for gas

        • @OftenConfused,

          oh hayle no. first date? nah, he paid for everything on a credit card. lol. but you know gas is cheaper if you pay in cash. at least here in michigan. and he def had more cash cause he pulled it out when he left the tip. (i did offer to leave it though, seeing as though i thought it was rough times. Acuras aren’t cheap. ..but apparently he is. lol)

        • @Muze,

          “i did offer to leave it though, seeing as though i thought it was rough times. Acuras aren’t cheap. ..but apparently he is. lol”

          You were willing to leave a tip on the first date? You are on my list of favorite VSS for that move.

        • @TheHallway/TheSunk,

          LMBO i swear to you, my initial response to yours was “you must be one of those people who like to live life on the edge.”

          crazy. lol

    • @Caballeroso,
      Whining. Man the hell up.

      COSIGN!

      Living with parents. Man the hell up. (exceptions made if you are their care giver.)

      Even with this, you gotta do some investigation. You know, make sure they really are the care giver and not just stayin and layin there.

    • @Caballeroso,

      Living with parents. Man the hell up.

      This is cultural. Where I am from, it’s a common and can actually somewhat be required. Heck, if I was home right now, I would have def been living in my parents’ home. No question about it.

  29. I think if you’re over 30, you need to accept responsibility for yourself and stop blaming others for everything that goes wrong in your life. This includes being 30+ and subscribing to the whole “men/women ain’t shyt” or “there are no good men/women out there” mantra. Drop the excuses.

    Another thing that one should let go of when they’re 30 (which may conflict with what a lot of people have said thus far), stop living your life by other people’s standards. You should have a sense of yourself and who are are to not have to “keep up with the Jones’…or Kardashians’. That’s a key element in maturity if you ask me.

    • @Monk,

      Another thing that one should let go of when they’re 30 (which may conflict with what a lot of people have said thus far), stop living your life by other people’s standards. .

      I TOTALLY agree with this!

      Have a sense of self. Know who you are and be comfortable with YOU!

    • @Monk,

      “I think if you’re over 30, you need to accept responsibility for yourself and stop blaming others for everything that goes wrong in your life.”

      YES. The thirties are effing known for being the time when you have finally and truly “found yourself”. Not one person can excuse with your decade (i.e. ” *sigh* I guess she gets a pass, she’s still in her twenties…”), so man/woman UP!

    • @Monk, I think if you’re over 30, you need to accept responsibility for yourself and stop blaming others for everything that goes wrong in your life. This includes being 30+ and subscribing to the whole “men/women ain’t shyt” or “there are no good men/women out there” mantra. Drop the excuses.

      that right thur is biblical.

    • @Monk,

      Another thing that one should let go of when they’re 30 (which may conflict with what a lot of people have said thus far), stop living your life by other people’s standards.

      And that’s the only rule that truly matters. The rest? Just fluff. Once you have a good understanding of who you are and what you are about, whatever someone says has little to no effect on you. It’s really that simple.

  30. I almost agree with everything cept……success isn’t limited to youth, neither is your destiny tied to a certain age, it ain’t over til it’s over, keep dreaming young, like that quote someone posted about being realistic is the surest way to mediocrity!

    Sweat apparel, you mean like Shooters, Solbiato etc………I don’t really have a problem with that, you can still wear that type of sh*t in an age appropriate, and fashionable way on some ol laid back casual gear!

  31. My ig’nant rap steez is what gets me in my zone on my commute to and from work. However, letting anyone else hear it is not the move.
    If you’re over 30, with cornrows, its a good chance you’re not holding down gainful employment…and if you are, that’s still what it shows….and if you have cornrows with a receding hairline, then that’s a whole ‘nother animal.
    That John Varvatos Artisan oil that you bought from the open air market aka the corner, is not the same as the cologne you purchase at Nordstrom…stoppit already!
    dudes wearing tight ass t-shirt with dragons and crosses and skulls all over it, with sunglasses up in the club, and them curled up squared toed shoes…I’m not sure who said that was grown, but i refute you, satan.

  32. things you should give up at age 30: not investing in yourself.

    meaning: buying shoes at payless is well and good to feed your shoe habit (raises hand guiltily here), but when the heel has broken 4 times and you’ve spent more money fixing shoe than if you had just bought a decent shoe in the first place…#imjussayin.

    same goes for everything: a hair salon that you might pay more for, but will respect the idea of an appointment, makeup (this was so hard, but does it ever make a difference), bra (70% of women wear the wrong size..the stats dont lie. and neither do my eyes.. i used to work in a lingerie store..#sideshowbobshudder), clothing (all layers of it..including a winter coat, winter boots, rain jacket, rain boots), shoes.

    It extends to the car you drive, the job you pursue, the SO you want, the vacation you take…pretty much every aspect of your life.

    • @Keisha Brown, great comment. I agree with it all. I think a lot of these things just differentiate the girls from the women. sometimes you just gotta grow up! being grown means investing…

  33. If you’re over 30 you should be asking people for gas money when they are riding with you to a destination you were headed to anyway.

    You shouldn’t be taking cash only jobs to avoid paying child support.

    • @Caballeroso,

      If you’re over 30 you should be asking people for gas money when they are riding with you to a destination you were headed to anyway. .

      Did you mean shouldN’T??? I hope so. Lol

      • @V Renee, Yes, I meant shouldN’T. My bad on the typo (was hurrying to get back to doing what they’re actually paying me to do here.)

        • @Caballeroso,
          “My bad on the typo (was hurrying to get back to doing what they’re actually paying me to do here.)”

          If you’re over 30, you should really do what you’re paid for….posting on VSB may not be one of them.
          (smile..that was too easy)

    • @Caballeroso, I agree. my MIL wanted me to pay for gas to take me and the baby to SHE HER SON. i’m glad im not the only one who thought that was tacky.

  34. Over 30 you should not be riding around with your damn stereo blasting and your trunk rattling. If you got kids in the car while engaging in this dumbness you should be snatched out and beaten.

  35. “Unless you are specifically called away to a combat zone by the Secretary of Defense, you look like a damn fool. Camo is generally a bad fashion statement anyway, unless you are a Que and also wear purple and gold boots – a combo that is ONLY okay if you’re a Que, kind of like pink and green – but there comes a point where there just is no good reason to put on camo.”

    Word. I’ve always hated camo as a fashion statement. What was I…about 13 or 14 when it blew up and everyone was wearing them in music videos? Hot pink camo, neon camo, houndstooth camo. Ok, I’m semi-lying about the third one (hopefully), but I was never a fan. And you will definitely get the mean side-eye if you are nearing middle age and rocking it thinkin’ you look…*Steve Harvey voice* SHAAAAAHP. Stop with the colored camo. You look like a technicolor dreamcoat in Iraq.

    • @Cheekie,
      “houndstooth camo. Ok, I’m semi-lying about the third one (hopefully), ”

      I hope you’re lying, because I was seriously trying to figure out what houndstooth camo would look like..ctfu.

    • @Cheekie, LMBO I really had to pause after reading houndstooth camo to try and visualize if that was possible and I couldn’t see how. So I was happy when I started back reading to see the semi-lying comment. I hope if it does exist that I never see it.

  36. Things you should give up by 30:

    * Pre-paid cell phones

    * Pre-paid debit cards – I don’t mean pre paid debit cards given as gifts/rebates (yeah I’m talking to you Verizon), but pre paid debit card because yo azz doesn’t have a bank account

    * Not being able to hold your liquor in public – exceptions for birthdays (I’m still iffy on this one), weddings and bachelor/bachelorette parties

    * Riding dirty with no car insurance

    * Any type of bi-curious experimentation/threesomes

      • @Humble_One,

        Well you know, yall are “different” up there. And now that you mention Detroit, I’m adding Gators to the list….even though most of yall don’t start wearing them until AFTER 30. LOL

        • @V Renee,

          LOl. Don’t get the Southern ex-pat “Detroiters” confused with actual Detroiters. You should know about this. After all gold-teeth and bare feet are common place in the 30+ crowd in Cincinnati.

    • @V Renee,

      “Pre-paid debit cards – I don’t mean pre paid debit cards given as gifts/rebates (yeah I’m talking to you Verizon), but pre paid debit card because yo azz doesn’t have a bank account”

      This is probably my biggest “grow the eff up!” pet peeve. How you say you’re grown without a bank account. And miss me with that “I don’t trust no bank with my money” conspiracy bullish. Also, I passed a currency exchange recently and they had a HUGE yellow sign talmbout “Free direct deposit”. WTF, direct deposit into what? It’s not a bank. And you charge for folks to cash a check anyway. WTF, stop pandering to my peoples with that mess! lol

      “Riding dirty with no car insurance”

      LOL, this reminds me of a local car insurance commercial. A group of dudes are riding in the car and they ask him what kind of insurance he got, and he’s like, “I got [insert bootleg-el-cheapo- probably-not entirely-legit-insurance-that-advertises-when-court-TV-shows-are-airing here]“. And his homies start busting up laughing and one of them says, “You got what? What are you, 19? Man, get some grown man insurance!”. I died laughing.

  37. I agree with this list, PJ. And to add to it, if you’re knocking on or over 30,
    – no cornrows
    – no durags in public
    – no rollers, wraps, head scarves that aren’t a part of your outfit or religion
    – no pajama bottoms
    – no singing along with Beyonce in the club. That heffa is not single!! And stop with the dance. You’re too old for that.
    – brothas over 30, it’s time to let go of the gold plated grill in your mouth.

  38. Men-give up on braids. I don’t care if they’re boxed or cornrows, it’s just something juvenile and ghetto about it when you’re over 30 (although in my opinion when you’re over 21)

    Women- getting your hair and nails “did”. please leave the glitter and neon streaks to the kiddies. A nice manicure or a “in” color will suffice on the nails. Please find a managable and adult hairstyle by the age of 30. A hairstyle shouldn’t prevent you from going on a job interview (and I’m talking about women who have you’re typical 9-5 where a mohawk really isn’t appropriate)

    • @La Bakir,

      i will NOT stop rocking my frohawk and four-inch technicolor nails with my ripped up jeans and lady timbs. and don’t even think about telling me to stop wearing my beloved hot pink ‘BABY GURL’ t-shirt. i’ma be a famous rapper soon as this producer stops bullin, and i gotta be hot.

      :-P

      • @Muze,

        lmfao @ “Baby gurl” t-shirt. For some reason, only about 5% of t-shirts that have that phrase spell the “girl” with an ‘i’. The rest are all spelled with the ‘u’. lmfao

        But yeah, I wish WOULD wear a shirt that says baby gurl when I turn 30. Hell, I wouldn’t rock that ish NOW and I’m 25. I wouldn’t rock that ish THEN when I was 15. But 30?! Chick, ain’t nothin’ baby about you but your uterus. Stop it and stop it soon.

        • @Cheekie, Seriously…like what would possess a woman to be like “This shirt is gonna turn heads!”

          AND…the woman who would wear this shirt…probably will purchase it in an ill fitting size so everyone can get a 1st class look at her spare tire

        • @Cheekie,

          “Chick, ain’t nothin’ baby about you but your uterus. Stop it and stop it soon.”

          thanks for making me outburst and disturb the peace at my place of employment. lmao.

          i met a woman a couple weeks ago named Baby Girl Minor. i kid you not. i concluded her mom secretly hated her and wanted her to have a sparkling future of minimum wage-ness.

        • @Muze,

          “i met a woman a couple weeks ago named Baby Girl Minor.”

          o__________________O

          Like, this was her legit gubment name? This is what’s displayed on her birth certificate next to “Name”? I don’t want to know a world where that is legal.

        • @Muze,
          “i met a woman a couple weeks ago named Baby Girl Minor.”

          So that means there is a Baby Girl Major running around too?
          Is this a first and last name, or first name, middle name, and last name?
          I’m confused.

        • @Cheekie and miss t-lee

          yes, this is her first, middle, and last name.

          Baby Girl Minor.

          i thought ‘baby’ was a nickname they were calling her like Dirty Dancing or something, but when it was her turn to fill out the paperwork i had for her…

      • @Muze,

        “i will NOT stop rocking my frohawk and four-inch technicolor nails with my ripped up jeans and lady timbs. and don’t even think about telling me to stop wearing my beloved hot pink ‘BABY GURL’ t-shirt. i’ma be a famous rapper soon as this producer stops bullin, and i gotta be hot.”

        This sounds like Northland Mall on Saturday evening.

        • @Muze,

          “most definitely. wow i haven’t been to Northland Mall in… dang. it’s still a mall?”

          No it’s not a mall. It’s an open market for gaudiness and tacky ish.

        • @La Bakir,

          she was PROUD too. “i love my name.”

          …probably why she was working at one of those stores that keep an abundant stock of ‘BABY GURL’ t-shirts.

          i can’t make this up. lol. twas better than fiction, i tell you.

  39. *I might offend someone…my apologies*
    -Over 30…maybe this is for over 25…please know, understand and embrace the concept of (double) birth control. 37 y/o man I met last week, be fruitful and multiply does not mean seven kids by four different women (that was his response after saying he had x number of kids) and 34 y/o gorgeous woman, if he didn’t wife you up after baby number 2 (while he had two others at about the same time) he is not going to do it with baby number 3 (I don’t care if your intuition is strongly telling you 3 times the charm…yes that was what she told me). Please have some sense…please. iCan’t with people anymore.

    -I hear you Monk, but I am yet to meet a man over 30 who is “trying to get in the industry”(that’s the line I hear all the time), that is holding down a primary source of income. His excuse is he is trying to free up his time. It irks me to no end. You seem like you do yours as a hobby and you have a career but it is alarming the number of men that I meet in their 30s, here in “black hollywood”(barf) that believe they are the next Wacka (yes this is what I was told).

    -Lastly, no one over the age of 2 should list Wacka Fire Flame as their musical influence.

  40. 1. Aspirations, hopes and dreams of fame and fortune if you’ve been toiling away for 10 years and you’re still only famous in your building

    More than likely, the comments section will be filled with people saying “dreams of being a rapper” and it’s true. 
    **I’d like to add ball player** I know a guy who really still thinks he’s going to get in the NBA and he’s like 28.
    **and for women becoming a model** 

    2. Camouflage clothing items

    Don’t totally agree but I can not come up with a single good reason to wear camo

    3. Cheap colognes and oils from the subway/Metro man

    agreed!! Lol @ Go to a real counter and somebody who charges you sales tax.
    (any advice on how to get the oils guy at my local mall to stop hitting on me??)

    4. Music that includes odd associations with something called a Wacka Flocka Flame

    Although i take offense to you calling  out ATL i totally agree about Wacka…everything surrounding him is bad
    Am I the only one that thinks wacka flocka sounds like a fraggle rock character?? Or thinks of the end of muppets babies when animal says wocka, wocka, wocka??? 

    5. Outfits that intentionally include sweat pants

    On a guy no! But I still like my comfy BCBG or Juicy fitted sweatsuit. Sorry

    6. The apostrophes in your name

    also add spaces, dashes, hyphens, and two capital letters ex. La-PaTric’a or D’Meetree-us

    7. Dreams of f*ckin’ an R&B b*tch

    No comment. 

    I’m adding (didn’t read posts first sobsirry for duplicates)
    8. Baby phat!! (did see this added but too good non to ditto
    9. Mini skirts – this one is hard for me
    10. Ribbons in ur hair (I see grown read :40+ women with pony tails and ribbon like a 6yo cheerleader)
    11. Coogi (actually can we just get rid of coogi)
    12. Ghetto/club pictures. (I just saw some women out this weekend taking a group shot outside a lounge complete with the hand on the knee, booty poked out to the side ghetto girl pose.)

    I’m sure I’ll think of more… 

  41. At 30 basically all things that would likely disqualify you from working in an office should end like, Freeway beards, tattoos that a long sleeve shirt and pants won’t cover, piercings that aren’t in your ears that a long sleeve shirt and pants won’t cover, or random pictures cut into your hair. As a matter of fact the older you get the smaller you range of haircut options should be.

    I also need to stop seeing grown people taking pictures in front of the gaudy cartoonish backgrounds* doing ghetto poses. Ok, it might have been more acceptable back in 1998 before digital cameras started to cost like $5 and came with all cell phones. If you really need a background try going somewhere nice just a thought.

    *If you are the guy taking the pictures you are not a photographer, stop passing out business cards that say so.

    • @SexyCool,

      “Pink clothing.”

      I JUST saw this chick who I’d bet my money was over 30 wearing all hot pink. Hot pink (plastic) jacket, hot pink leggings AS PANTS (and no, she wasn’t not slim…are they ever? And no she wasn’t wearing a tunic…a short pink shirt) and to top it of, white and pink power ranger boots. Like, I swear she straight jacked those boots from Kimberly from Power Rangers. I half-expected her to yell, ”
      “Pterodactyl!!!!”

  42. hey, i have an apostrophe at the end of my name. and no it’s not a ghetto name. not becky, but not ghetto. (people, esp white people, always think it’s french. lol) guess i have two more years before i have to say goodbye to it. lol.

    hmm. well i’d say give up texting l!ke dis n $h!t cuz it’s ridiculous.

    which leads to… replacing the, this, that, come, there, and what with da, dis, dat, cum, der,and wut. or any intentional misspelling of words. stoppit.

    i reiterate cornrows/braids/perms/presses/flips/rollers on men. please just stop. way before 30.

    women: carrying fake Gucci/Chanel/LV bags.

    men: owning only one suit and pair of dress shoes that you wear to interviews, weddings, funerals, and church.

    unhealthy eating habits that you could get away with at 20-something, like nutty bars for breakfast, honey bun for lunch and mcdonald’s for dinner. everyday.

    • @Muze,

      “owning only one suit and pair of dress shoes that you wear to interviews, weddings, funerals, and church.”

      This is not the first time this has been mentioned. I have more than one suit and more than one pair of dress shoes and I hardly wear them. In this day I can’t think of why the average guy would need an abundance of dress clothes unless your career calls for it.

      • @Humble_One,

        i’m generally speaking of those dudes who have one tie, one dingy dress shirt, and one ill-fitting suit that they think is okay to wear every sunday to church.

        but i do think every man should have at least one pair of brown and one pair of black dress shoes.

      • @Humble_One,

        For someone who works in an office setting and/or owns his own business, there are plenty of occasions calling for a business suit. Trying to always get the same suit ready from the cleaners in time can become tricky really quick… hence the need to have at least 3 functional suits.

        For all other people who hardly ever have the need for a business suit, they should be fine.

  43. My Tims will have to be pried off of my cold dead feet. I haven’t worn camo for some time and when I did it was more for actual outdoors ish. Not for hanging out.

    If you are over 30 you should give up the following:

    Don’t know if this has been covered yet. Wearing shades inside (this includes clubs, , holiness churches, or any other building.) You aren’t a star, you’re just you… except it.

    DO NOT continue to make sweeping generalizations about groups of people. (All men, all women, those people, and so on.)

    If your hairline has to be constructed by your barber, or your hair has thinned to a certain point just shave the sh*t off and go on about your life.

    Stop wear your blue tooth if you aren’t driving. Your aren’t Lt. Uhura so just cut it out. (And deliver this message to your old ass uncles, aunts, and deacons too.)

    At the age of 30 please stop blaming everything on the “man”. Most of the the sh*t that has happened to your blacka$$ may just be a product of your dodgy life choices.

    • @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,

      “My Tims will have to be pried off of my cold dead feet. I haven’t worn camo for some time and when I did it was more for actual outdoors ish. Not for hanging out.”

      Cosign. I don’t know if I will ever stop wearing Timbs. I can’t se myself being that dude wearing Johnston and Murphys everywhere except for the gym. It makes me think of back in the day when dudes use to play baseball in dress pants and dressed up to go to the “city”.

    • @La Bakir,

      “Women: Going to club w/o any money hoping someone will by you a drink”

      lol…do a lot of women seriously do this? I mean, I do know a few (like one friend of my cousin’s who goes to the club full well knowing she has no money…like she’ll go the ATM talmbout “Man, Chase gets on my effing nerves, they won’t let me take out anymore money…won’t let my balance get below 20 dollars” (o_____O), but she’s a big freeloader anyway), but I really hope these ain’t no epidemic or some ish. Like, plenty women will be hella disappointed. lol

      • @Cheekie, I know chicks that do this and it really makes me SMH. not quite 30 but are all over 25. I don’t understand that at all. and the thing is I always go to the bar with intentions to pay and almost always don’t have to.

    • @La Bakir,

      “Women: Going to club w/o any money hoping someone will by you a drink”

      I got a few stories about these women from my early 20s. I didn’t know women still do this after 30.

    • @La Bakir, I hope women don’t do this after 30. I’m not apart of the 30 club yet myself…but I’ve seen women who look 30ish doing this mess…now that I think about it…it’s usually the chicks in the “hi hater…by hater” t-shirts….*ponders*

  44. “(Wow. Mo’Nique won!)”

    Wasn’t a huge surprise since she sweeped all the other awards and that would’ve been a HUGE upset if she didn’t win. But, I don’t put it past the Oscars to pull big upsets, it’s been done before. lol Though, I’m not a fan of her constant yelling, she did tickle me during the aftershow press conference. They weren’t ready for her. lol

    • @Cheekie, I’m not a fan either, that Barbara Walters special was a mess o_O, but good for her on the win maybe she will be embraced by hollywood on a larger scale.

  45. I’ve got a few… Don’t know how many may have been covered, but oh well…

    1. Baseball hats with the new-new stickers on ‘em. WTF is THAT all about? Is it that people don’t realize you can take the tags off of new clothing items? They don’t come with Federal warning notices!

    2. Blazers with the sewn-in label on the sleeve. (See #1)

    3. Pants on the ground. Really… grow the fark up.

    4. Skinny jeans. My head hurts just thinking about ‘em.

    • @Joppie,
      “Blazers with the sewn-in label on the sleeve. (See #1)”

      When I see cats wearing blazers like this I wonder if they took the time to actually open the pockets of there coat.

  46. ok i`m not 30 yet but if i have to weigh in , i would say some of the things one ( men)shouldnt be doing at 30 include but are not limited to:

    -rocking earrings…wtf? this was one of the most feminine things out there and there is nothing that has me questioning someone else`s mental health like seeing a man well over his 30`s with earrings and on top of that having girlfriends/babymamas/wives actually find it acceptable..

    -Owning a passport is one thing, making good use of it is another thing, in other words travel ninja…travel !! and learn something other than what you read on XXL mag, if at all there is anything worth learning by reading those publications

    -Being culturally and politically illiterate, black men excel at this.I mean you have a whole generation of brothas who can give you sports stats that go as far back as decades before they were even born but yet an astounding majority of these cats cant or worse dont even know who does what in their city,county,state and above all country…smh how do you live like that?

    -

    • @oliver,

      “Being culturally and politically illiterate, black men excel at this.I mean you have a whole generation of brothas who can give you sports stats that go as far back as decades before they were even born but yet an astounding majority of these cats cant or worse dont even know who does what in their city,county,state and above all country…smh how do you live like that?”

      I find that woman excel at this also. Unless being culturally and political literate revolves around Tyler Perry, church, and Steve Harvey.

  47. Ladies,

    - stop wearing the $3.00 Old Navy flip flops as real sandals. It is beach wear!

    - stop with the facebook relationship statuses reading “It’s complicated”. You’re 30+, you know what it is… It’s not complicated…you are the only one not “clear” on what it is that you two are doing. #sus

    - seriously, let’s stop trying to smooth down our “baby hair”. you’re grown

    - 30 or 13, please learn how to correctly pronounce the following word: ‘specifically’.

    • @StrawberryPoptarts,
      “30 or 13, please learn how to correctly pronounce the following word: ’specifically’.”

      Don’t you mean ‘pacifically’?

    • @StrawberryPoptarts,

      “30 or 13, please learn how to correctly pronounce the following word: ’specifically’.”

      And stop saying “irregardless” while you’re at it

  48. great post. one let me say that i’m not 30 but i’ll be there within the next 2 years and i still agree with most of this list. oh yeah i’m from dc too but butters are a no go. i’ll still rock field boots though (beef and broc).

    one i’m a Que and i still won’t be caught dead in camouflage. although my camis did come in handy when i went to play paintball last week. it’s just a bad look.

    smelling good is something that i take pride in. i know the effect a good smelling man has on a woman, so why wouldn’t i be meticulous in that department. besides who wants to smell like brut?

    what’s wrong with listening to a little gucci or frenchy (another 10-17 artist) every now and then? lol

    • @Tunde,

      Nothing wrong with a little Gucci… I’m always in the mood for a little “party, party, party”

  49. I’d like to cosign this thread for $400 please, Alex.

    And Lmao at the Waka Flaka Flame. Everytime I hear that name I get a bout of uncontrollable laughter that comes over my soul.

    Other things that need to be dropped at the tender age of 30:

    * Playing hard to get. Nobody has time for games.
    * Using slang. Seriously?
    * Nicknames. Pooter and T-bone are not cute.
    * Ghetto Blasters. Nobody needs to hear you playing Kenny G at 400 Db.
    * Wearing T-shirts with sayings like “Hot Bish” or “Princess” or “Baby Girl”. I mean hey, rock a tee all you like, just not the ones that self-proclaim that you like all the wrong kind of attention.

    • @chaoticdiva, I second nick names…pookie and man man is just not appropriate…well ever really…but certainly after 30.

  50. Is it just me or is there some new obsession (amongst the “Grown & Sexy”) with “haters?” What the freak is a hater and why should I be concerned with them? And don’t you have more important things to do than lament about people who don’t like you?

    All parties geared towards the over 30 crowd should lose the “Grown & Sexy” moniker. Like, fareal.

  51. @ La Bakir,
    Men: white tee’s a shir

    I’m not near 30, but what’s wrong with white tees every once in a while?

    • @215bul, Every once in a while…maybe to workout or go grocery shopping.

      But as a part of your outfit…damn near on a daily basis to which point you’re wardrobe resemebles that of a cartoon character…

      No bueno

      • @La Bakir,

        “But as a part of your outfit…damn near on a daily basis to which point you’re wardrobe resemebles that of a cartoon character…”

        This reminds of that Dr. Dre “Let Me Ride” video when his closet was full of black dickies suits.

  52. @tunde,

    “one i’m a Que and i still won’t be caught dead in camouflage”

    Makes me go hmmmmmm…

    Jk bruh

    ..Or am I

  53. People over 30, you make my age group look like idiots when you:

    1. still get caught up in college gossip, bringing up old shit like it didn’t happen a decade ago and somebody gives a f*ck.
    2. have facebook statuses reflecting your petty relationship angst. In fact, any constant fb updating (4-5 times a day) while at work means you need to go somewhere and apply yourself. present company VSB forum updaters excluded of course.
    3. be “unsure” about whether you are in a relationship with the person you’ve been dating and sleeping with. Learn to have a cotdamn adult conversation and stop thinking having sex means you’re “together” just because your genitals are.
    4. related somewhat to number 1, obsess over your high school/college reunion. Attending an event just to show off to your high school that you aren’t a loser makes you A LOSER and you fail at life. If you went out and got an extreme makeover just for this occasion, you should stab yourself in the throat.
    5. Have entire conversations over text messaging. You are not a 14 year old girl. Have a conversation with voices and speaking.
    6. Have a poor diet. Eating fast food every day, not being able to cook and the only time you have a decent meal is at your parent’s house…you fail at life!
    7. Being so damn matchy-matchy. This just irritates me, regardless of age. Stop matching your belt, shoes, pants and shirts perfectly like you were created on a cotdamn assembly line. well-dressed adults buy signature pieces and learn to mix and match a tasteful outfit that reflects their uniqueness (except if your uniqueness can only be shown through ed hardy), Try harder not to get your tacky ass bag, shoes, jewlery, coat and shirt off the same rack and stop being a logo whore.
    8. and most importantly, if you made the decision to have kids, FEED THEM, CLOTHE THEM and stop bitching about being a worn out parent when you don’t do shit. Tired of you half-assed young parents giving your kids bologna sandwiches for dinner and letting your sons wear threadbare dora the explorer tee shirts while your dumb ass is wearing gucci and gets regular pedicures at the spa.

    • @RocktheCatbox,

      Re: #7 – Yeah you are in Detroit. Me an my brother talk about this ish constantly. I think to myself “don’t people know that you don’t have to buy a shirt and matching pants and shoes at the same time”. Mofos be mad country with it. I’ve had people look at me crazy because I wore blue jeans with black Air Jordans. This happens when you buy all your clothes at Four Men and J-Beez. I have to keep in mind that a significant part of the population here are 1st generation Detroiters.

      • @Humble_One,

        *dead*

        absolutely one of my biggest pet peeves of fashion is when people MUST match head to toe. wtfness.

        like just bc you’re wearing a red shirt does not automatically mean read shoes, purse and belt and accessories. goodness.

        • @Muze,

          “absolutely one of my biggest pet peeves of fashion is when people MUST match head to toe. wtfness.”

          YES. Newport News is notorious for that ish. Orange suit? Get the orange shoes and orange purse to match! They even do that ish with patterns. The floral-pattern suit has the exact pattern to match in shoes AND purse. What in thee f*ck?

      • @Humble_One,
        LMAO…that was the thing that really blew my mind, the shopping at Mr. Allens and shorts sets–what kind of bama wears a shorts set, let alone one with a pattern?! And then have the nerve to be big as hell. Top it off with sunglasses at night and a blue tooth worn in the ear 24-7 and you have the Modern Detroit Man About Town look.

    • @RocktheCatbox,

      Re: #1 and #4

      I never understood this. If college and high school are the peak periods of your life you really need to re evaluate what you are doing.

  54. All of these lists remind of the recent fall of Allen Iverson. Seems like most of the things that made him the ish at 24, just make him a sad ass man at 34.

  55. By your 30′s, you should have:

    - mastered the 3Rs: respect for self, respect for others, and responsibility for all your actions.

    - stopped asking everyone you meet for permission “to do” {insert activity here}. You already know the right thing to do so just do it.

  56. I’m 30 in about a month. I’m excited about it. I want some stuff to stop though. The following is unacceptable at 30:

    1. Not having a clue about what you want to do in life–it was understandable in high school, acceptable in college and became borderline pathetic in your late 20′s. It’s downright ridiculous in your 30′s though. Even if you’re not in the profession/place you want to be, at least know where the place is.

    2. Not having long-term friends–nothing is more annoying that a 30 year old with no friends. You mean to tell me that you spent the last 12 years (essentially since high school) passing through life and have not managed to cultivate one single friendship? FAIL!

    3. Not understanding and ACCEPTING your part in failed relationships of the past–it’s not solely the fault of every woman/man you dated for the failure of the relationship. It takes two and the common denominator is you, so stop telling your new interest how trifling, horrendous, ignorant your last significant other was. Or else, you will automatically be filed in the “denial” category and subsequently be dismissed by any quality man/woman.

    4. Texting “LyKe DiS”–really? Grow up!

    5. Calling everyone a hater when you clearly have some things you need to tighten up in your life–everyone is not hating on you when they tell you right from wrong. And at 30, “hating” to refer to how people view you shouldn’t even be in your vocabulary

  57. I think men and women over 30 need to give up being totally about self (if you are) and find a cause that moves you and do something, mentor, volunteer, start a community or youth group, join Big Brothers/Big Sisters, find a little boy or girl in your hood that needs some guidance and be that!
    Start being the change you want to see in the world and…

    Give up your dreams of being discovered and being America’s Next Top Model…

    Give up your dreams of being a Neighborhood Ghetto Superstar….really, no one cares who you are…

    Give up trying to sell me your latest CD or Mixtape, esp if you just started rappin’ at 29 1/2 years old…

    Give up being fake, trying to keep up with the Joneses and just be you, and if you don’t yet know who you is…find out!

    Settling for less! In any matter…esp. relationship!

  58. Please let go of the bubble goose and anything from the 80s (I assure you Troop and 8 Ball jackets are not coming back.) And can someone explain the recent resurgence of those horrific leather jackets with assorted crappy embossing (dollar bills, bizarre tribalish stuff, Scarface, etc.)?

  59. Hey we follow some of the same people on Twitter! I saw that whole exchange about how men should dress over 30. I agree with most of it but the specifics depend on the guys personal style.

    nothing to add since I’m so late with the comment.

  60. I think men and women over 30 need to give up being totally about self (if you are) and find a cause that moves you and do something, mentor, volunteer, start a community or youth group, join Big Brothers/Big Sisters, find a little boy or girl in your hood that needs some guidance and be that! Start being the change you want to see in the world and…

    Give up your dreams of being discovered and being America’s Next Top Model…

    Give up your dreams of being a Neighborhood Ghetto Superstar….really, no one cares who you are…

    Give up trying to sell me your latest CD or Mixtape, esp if you just started rappin’ at 29 1/2 years old…

    Give up being fake, trying to keep up with the Joneses and just be you, and if you don’t yet know who you is…find out!

    Give up settling for less! In any matter…esp.in a relationship!

  61. Lord have mercy. . . . I started LMWAO on the Metro tonight when I saw Leon (my default black male name- I just love that name) strollin up and and down the Metro with his fragrance mini bottles. . the thing is- bootleggers NEVER ask me if I want to buy something- EVER. One day I got in this guys face and said “why don’t you ever ask the white girl if she wants to buy your bootlegged porn. .Ghetto Booty” (I could see the cover out of the corner of my eye. . . ) the man was totally offended. I mean I am just sayin- he doesn’t know what people are interested in. . . at least be an equal opportunist in your sales. . .

    AMEN on the sweatsuits- particularly anything VELOR. . . .

    I would also add the following-

    Toothpicks as an accessory. .
    Sunglasses inside, in the dark, or anywhere where it is not sunny
    SNOWPANTS- as a “look” . . . like it was ok to wear during SNOWTORIOUS BIG. . when it was actually snowing but not ok at any point other than that.
    Smoking. . . its so 30 years ago.

  62. Gotta chime in, and make it real quick. I told this to my boys and I will tell the world (or at least the VSB world):

    If you are over 30 you should not be smoking weed DAILY. If you want to elevate your mind every now and then it’s cool but don’t let Kat Williams
    fool you (pay attention to the messenger), I repeat, you should NOT be smoking weed everyday. And it’s not just for the purpose of maintaining your job. If you feel the need to smoke everyday…you and that man or woman in the mirror need to have a long talk.

    chances are if you get high daily, you’ve already had that talk…but you forgot.

  63. Okay, I was all like, nodding my head in agreement with you until you said give up the oils from the Metro man.

    Naw uhn boo. (LMAO) I ain’t giving up my oils.

    But then again, maybe you’re not referring to moi because we no longer live in a town with a metro so I get my oils from the flea market.

    And urry body knows the flea market has a better quality of oils.

    Right?

    LOL

  64. Please give up the foundation, blush, lipgloss, and every other kind of make-up that is not eyeliner, mascara, eye shadow or lipstick/stain.
    also, please make a conscious effort to sport hair that actually looks like it could be yours. do not go outrageous with that ish. not. pretty.

    *100% homegrown i said it’s all mine.

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