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It’s Bad That Russia Influenced The Election, But It’s Even Worse That 60 Million Deplorables Did Too

Raise your hand you knew, before this year, that the electors chosen in each state — the people who actually determine who the next president will be — could, if they want to, decide to opt out and choose against their state’s wishes. Ok, I see a few of you in the back with your hands up, and I commend you wonky motherfuckers for staying awake that day in 10th grade civics class and retaining that lesson for the last 20 years. Unfortunately, I presume that most people reading this kept their hands where mine are — in my pockets. And, like me, were very familiar with how the electoral college process worked, but never quite knew until this year that a member of the electoral college could conceivably just say “Fuck it” and choose against the candidate their state voted for.

Of course, opting out has actually happened so few times before that the electors’ choice is regarded as a formality. But this year’s election has been so jarring and devastating that it’s had us searching and hoping for any type of contingency plan or last second salvo to prevent the inevitable. Including, today, the paradoxical dynamic of having faith in the faithless elector.

Anyway, it’s pretty much confirmed now that Russia did attempt to sabotage the election, and that the purpose of their political vandalism was to help Donald Trump get elected. And while we’re not sure if Vladimir Putin interfered because he has an affinity for Trump or because he believed a Trump victory would make America weaker (or both), it’s also been confirmed that he was directly involved with the hacking.

This is not exactly new news. Even before both the CIA and the FBI pointed to Russia, it was long suspected that Russia was somehow behind the leaks. But between our intelligence agencies agreeing on something for the first time ever and that we also now know that Republican leadership knew about this but chose to keep it a secret, there seems to be an urge for something to be done about this. I’m not sure what actually could be done — this isn’t teeball and we’re not getting an election do-over — but something has to be done. Because Russia. And Russia is bad.

I just…I don’t know man. I mean, I know Putin is essentially the devil incarnate. And I’m not particularly happy that we allowed another country to wield such an influence on us. But I just can’t muster much outrage about it, especially when it just means that over 60 million Americans were either gullible or racist enough (or both) to vote for Trump. 60 million deplorable motherfuckers the rest of us have to share space with, live next to, and sometimes even work for. They are the imminent threat. They are the national security risk. They are the ones who ultimately committed a treasonous act. They are the ones the international community should hold in contempt and the United Nations should sanction. They are the ones who need to be monitored, forced to register, and barred from entering airports, shopping malls, and Target. Being pissed at Russia for the election is like being mad at the person who fucked your spouse. Regardless of what they said or how flirty and forward they were, your spouse still made the decision to cheat. Putin could have hacked every email account, every Facebook page, and inserted subliminal messaging on everyone’s Pinterest visionboards. Shit, Putin could have done that and offered free lollipops and lapdances and it wouldn’t have mattered if there weren’t so many small, stupid, and shitty people here.

This — and not the faithless electors or how the F.B.I. influenced the election or recounts or Russia just deciding to go Peak Russia — is what we collectively need to be concerned about and focused on. What the fuck are we going to do about the tens of millions of people who voted for this, who want all the terrible things that are happening to happen? And, it’s not like we can just contain them to Montana and Outback Steakhouses either. They’re everywhere. They’re our neighbors, they’re at our jobs, they’re behind us in line at Giant Eagle, they’re in our families. Raise your hand, please, if you have a good answer.

Shit. No hands this time, huh?

Damon Young

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  • Kylroy

    Mostly, it’s noteworthy because the constituency that elected Trump is the same one (and in many cases the same people) who ushered in the Reagan era because Carter was insufficiently manly in opposing the Russians.

  • Read some articles that stated that a wikileak insider claimed the hack came from inside the DNC.

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/14/craig-murray-says-source-of-hillary-clinton-campai/

    • Negro Libre

      This was another theory that came out during the election, but didn’t get enough coverage as the Russian theory hack, it also has the support of ex-NSA head William Binney, who is fairly credible. If it had been Russia, the hack would have had to have involved some form of downloaded malware, worm or software etc, yet, we’ve gotten no info on any of that and it’s not like it would be a big deal explaining the source.

      The only other way it could be legitimately Russia, is that Russia had a spy in the DNC who did the hack internally. If that’s indeed true, that might explain a lot more things, but it would also be way more explosive and depressing. Either way, it still seems that the hack was internal, rather than external.

      • IDareYou

        From my understanding someone high up in the DNC fell for a spear phishing attack and gave up his email login credentials.

        • Negro Libre

          Hmm, that would make sense.

          You got a link?

          • Kylroy
          • IDareYou

            That’s what bothers me so much… the entire election was partly handed to trump due to someone falling for the simplest of attacks.

            • Epsilonicus

              That is not not nuanced enough though. It ism ore than attacks. Russia spread so much disinfo on numerous other topics. Its crazy. The Clinton emails and DNC hacks were only the small part of it.

              • IDareYou

                I think the DNC emails gave some “credibility” to some of the more kooky Clinton rumors. They showed proof of smalltime dirt being committed, then Russia went wild with everything else.

                • Epsilonicus

                  Except people were passing around Russian disinfo well before the emails even came out. Russia actually started much of this in 2013. It started with stories about Obama and a liberal takeover. They literally primed conservatives minds. Lemme find the piece that shows it

                  • Negro Libre

                    Russia’s propaganda machine has been in overdrive for quite some time. And it can get pretty ridiculous:

                    https://youtu.be/aZ03ak2kC3U?t=13m46s

                  • Brown Rose

                    This is true. I think it started before 2013. Paid Russian trolls. They also invigorated the white nationalists as well. It was a coordinated effort that began in earnest once Bush left.

                  • That’s Russia’s move. They don’t have a free press but they openly use the free press against nations who have a free press. I’m pretty sure that’s the main reason Russia Today exists.

                  • They’ve been spreading disinformation in a lot of elections in the Europe. Apparently they are targeting Germany next year.

                    • Epsilonicus

                      Especially because Russia tried to short Germany on gas and it didn’t mess up their economy. Putin hates Merkle

                    • exactly – Putin was the MVP of 2016. No doubt about it

            • Negro Libre

              Yeah, falling for a spear phishing is slightly less embarrassing than saying you fell into a 419 email scheme lol.

      • Yea I guess the Russia theory is a lot more sensational. I wonder if the Obama administration will show proof that it was the Russians before he leaves office.

      • Val

        I’m not inclined to disbelieve that someone in the DNC was responsible considering all of the other shenanigans that have gone on there over the last couple of years.

  • rikyrah

    Yes, there are 60 million people who voted for a racist, fascist, who is patently unqualified, because they were mad about the Black man in the White House.

    They have been mad for his exteme competence in the job.

    They are mad because this man is respected around the world.

    They long for the delusional world of Mad Men, where they could pretend that they were big fish in a big pond, when, in fact, they were fish in a pond where all the other fish were forced into sardine cans. Now the cans are open, and nobody is going back in them.

    And, the hacking is the sexy story.
    Let’s tell the truth; this election was stolen because of Voter Suppression. The number of voters denied the exercise of the franchise in those key states was 4 to 5 times his margin of “victory.”

    They supported treason against this country to undermine American sovereignty.

    I don’t want to hear shyt about questioning any Democrat’s patriotism after this fraudulent election.

    They want to party like it’s 1948, and NOBODY is playing with them.

    • Sigma_Since 93

      “Let’s tell the truth; this election was stolen because of Voter
      Suppression. The number of voters denied the exercise of the franchise
      in those key states was 4 to 5 times his margin of “victory.””

      All the states that restricted early voting

      All the states that put fewer machines in urban polling places

      All the states that put in place more restrictive registration requirements

      Complacency

      http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/19/politics/president-obama-npr-interview/index.html

      and then you add in apathy gets to to a Trump presidency

      • Kas

        I would put apathy and a feeling that individual votes don’t matter ahead of voter suppression.

        • Sigma_Since 93

          I can’t think of a state where the first three were put in place that HRC won. That’s why I put them first.

          • Kas

            Other side of that coin, places where you could enact those policies are where Dem’s are weakest (i.e., states more likely to go Republican).

            • Sigma_Since 93

              The problem, as I see it, is politics is local and most folks that claim they are woke pay attention to the presidential race. All the dirt gets implemented at the local level in the non presidential year. By the time folks realize what’s going on, it’s too late.

              • Blueberry01

                Facts.

        • Negro Libre

          I think these both fall on the Democratic Party.

          I know people don’t like to hear it, but voting suppression and redesigning districts is how the corrupt game of politics is played in our country. I’m tiring myself hearing all these arguments from weakness coming from the DNC, when they’ve been dropping the ball for a min.

          Your party is supposed to protect voters, lest if they don’t, the opposing party will try to do whatever it can: whether it be increasing standards, or changing dates and voting booth locations, or passing legislation to prevent people who fit criteria within your base, they’ll do whatever they have to do, to prevent your voters from coming out to vote — as long as it can be shown to be legal.

          As a Democratic Strategist once told me, “You don’t win by getting the most votes, you win by preventing the other side from get as many votes as possible.” If there was apathy, it was the party’s fault for not doing better. Whichever way you look at it, the party is to blame.

          • Kas

            I have been blaming the Dem’s since I got over the shock of the loss. Love or hate Republicans, they are winning the game.

            • Negro Libre

              I met a couple Democratic strategists in my times in Mass. and I know these people are hardcore and the reason why Mass is reliably blue, and they almost can’t hide how skilled they are in getting such results. If nationwide, they lost, it’s because those Machiavellian types didn’t do their job.

            • Sigma_Since 93

              To use a military analogy, the Dems are playing the game using the rules or engagement. The Republicans are using guerilla tactics

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            • Leon Skorzeny

              Yep. And we’re gonna KEEP winning. So much winning. YUUUGE the winning will be. BIGLY. SO MUCH WIN WE WILL GET TIRED OF WINNING (well, not really).

              The people who are the MAJORITY (once you subtract a few million illegals from states -CA, NM- that issues drivers licenses to illegals) in this country spoke. You know, the ones that make it actually function. White civilization doesn’t work without white people, sorry. That’s why it is called “Western” civilization. After Western Europe. You know, the civilization that gave you the computer you are reading this on, amongst other things (oh, I forgot blacks invented everything. Sorry. We won’t address that lunacy here).

              And we aren’t gonna make the mistake of being civic nationalists again- the mistake of thinking that people who say they want “equality” actually want equality, when what they mean by “equality” is supremacy. That ride is over. Y’all blew that one. No one to blame but yourselves. You could’ve kept the “RAYCISSM” industry humming along nicely, and even then continued to become a part of the American Whole; but elements among you were embolden by bad demographics and our foolishly voting Obama in, thinking he was just another American, except darker (most of us had no idea the grievances and racial resentment he carried). Buuut, nah. You overplayed your hand, these past couple years (remember, your average white is more intelligent than your average negro. Just a fact. So stuff that sounds like it makes sense to many blacks just is transparent and sounds like the laughable rantings of imaginative, spoilt, ungracious ten-year-olds to us). Bigly. Yugely. The fact that black lunatics and liars dominate the “black leadership” is on YOU. I suppose it would help if any black who doesn’t buy into the false racial grievance narrative wasn’t a “tom”, or “cooning”, but again, that’s on you. I won’t expect you to do much with that knowledge, as most of you seem allergic to taking responsibility for any of your own failings. Remember, blacks can do no wrong- EXCEPT challenge the grievance narrative! Dat treazonz n sheeeit, dawg!

              If the majority of blacks would’ve been genuinely interested in being a part of this project called America, rather than spending the past decade-and-a-half declaring said project inherently evil, promoting grievance and identity politics, and engaging in racist namecalling of and demonizing rural and working class whites (which you know is a thing, but which you then characterize as somehow deserved or just), this “whitelash” would’ve never occurred, plain and simple. You have done actual white nationalists like me a YUUUUGE favor with that nonsense, actually. When you insist that systemic and institutional raycisssms are actual things, when they are DEMONSTRABLY NOT and haven’t been for thirty years, you lose all credibility with poor and middle-class white folks, who know better. They actually aren’t racist. I know, because I am, openly and proudly, and the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of whites want nothing to do with that.

              You know as well as I do most whites will fall all over themselves to help or promote blacks, worship the magic negro, or take every opportunity to signal that they aren’t “racist” (an anti-white slur, is all that word is). They just hate whiners and people who piss in their face and claim it is rain, regardless of color. BLM’s bullshit narrative and how many blacks buy into it ruined the game you had going, and, again, any credibility blacks have with whites. Obama blew his as soon as he invited that sissy DeGay into the White House. This shocked whites, who actually DO know the TRUTH about black crime, even while so many make excuses for it (they can read the FBI’s UCR’s, and, unlike so many blacks, most of them understand what “per capita” means. KO gaming their grandmas and posting it on WURRRR STARRRR hasn’t helped with that, either) But you don’t need that “credibility”, right? Because whites are “dying off”, right? (Not once the deportations start in a few weeks! Demography is destiny, after all!) Maybe vgleefully and publicly celebrating whitey’s supposedly incipient demise wasn’t a good idea.

              You aren’t gonna get another chance for a generation. Law and order is back. Personal responsibility is back. Black racism cost the dems this election, not white racism… remember plenty of those deplorables voted for Obama. Twice. Naw, it wasn’t white racism. It was white sick-of-your-bullshitism. YOU blew this. Now, we have the exec, congress, and the judiciary. The era of identity politics, PC, and whining are OVER. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. MAGA.

              OH, and it would probably be a good idea to stop committing violent crimes at 440 percent the rate we do per capita. We’re getting a little tired of being preyed upon and then told it’s the other way around, KANGS.

        • PinkRose

          Dems are systemically weak and have been for a while now. So they won’t get my vote anytime in the near future. It’s Independent from now into the foreseeable future.

          • Kas

            Go ahead and vote Republican.

            • PinkRose

              Whatever Kas!!

        • Cheech

          Those are both big factors. But if you look at the specifics of voter suppression in North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania (along with their turnout numbers and their margins) it’s pretty clear that was enough to turn the result. Ohio is also in that mix. We know supprrssion works and we know that’s why they do it–they’re on record saying so. Any 2 of those states come out differently, so does the election.

          • IDareYou

            As far as Wisconsin is concerned we have had voter id on the books for a few years now. Free IDs are available at the DMV. But the Wisconsin Democratic Party waited until the last possible minute to try and do any out reach on making sure voters had those IDs. The DNC acts like this is a new game the Republicans are playing.

          • Gibbous

            I don’t know if this is true, but there might be more uncounted votes in MI, than the margin of victory.

            https://www.democracynow.org/2016/12/13/greg_palast_by_rejecting_recount_is

            • Cheech

              Wouldnt surprise me at all. I only left MI out because I dont really know any facts there.

          • Brian Jeffries

            Don’t forget Florida. Florida has the grand daddy of voter suppression efforts, first on full effective display in 2000, and it delivered again. Flip Florida and no other states are needed.

            • Cheech

              True, of course ….

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      • Janelle Doe

        wait, so we all got Pope’d?
        Shonda we need you to write scripts since life is emulating your shows
        *not actually sure whether or not I am kidding

    • Brown Rose

      I am so done with American values. It is absolutely meaningless. This is what they wanted. To ensure that complete subjugation of those they hate. My only goal going forward is to ensure I survive and can thrive. And for any Black person that values their health–that should it too.

      • Giantstepp

        Well said and this captures my sentiment. This is what they wanted, and they got it. Now God help us all.

        • Brown Rose

          Yup. I am bracing for at least a decade.

    • thasamiam

      May I add that it was voter suppression that was targeted towards eliminating as many Black and Brown voters as possible. I realize that it’s obvious to this community what voter suppression really is, but I say that because I’m really pissed off and angry towards the Bernie Sanders zealots who (very) loudly framed voter suppression as oppressive and discriminatory against White independent/unaffiliated voters who were too willfully ignorant or lazy to register as Democrats in closed primary states (and the Sanders campaign who simply didn’t do the work to let people know ahead of time what the rules were in every state), but have been DEAD SILENT about actual voter suppression in multiple states that targeted Black and Brown voters “with almost surgical precision” – the exact words U.S. Appeals court used to describe North Carolina’s voter ID law.

    • Mary Burrell

      You are a great commentator, are you a writer?

      • rikyrah

        nope. Just a concerned American.

    • Betsy

      Also add the people who don’t vote in the midterms, especially in 2010 because said president didn’t do “enough” (while he was busy saving us from the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression) and so handed over many states to GOP control who put those voter suppression laws into place. And now we will see the results of that decision to not vote and teach Obama a lesson.

  • Those same deplorables pushed Bernard Hopkins out of the ring on Saturday night too.

    ” Russia just deciding to go Peak Russia —” That was not “Peak Russia”. Peak Russia involves rubble, marred landscapes, ice, blood, and famine. I’m not even sure if Russia is even capable of going “Peak Russia” anymore. As for the leak I’m puzzled as to why Powder and the folks at Wikileaks didn’t release dirt on both sides. I also think Powder isn’ t the white hat he portrays himself as.

    Deplorables are a bold. My Brother-in-law’s pops, and elderly Puerto Rican cat sits down to Thanksgiving dinner, at a restaurant in Charlotte in mixed company, and says “I guess I’m the only deplorable here.” We were smart enough to not bite the hook but deep down you could see new ways of harassing the liberals were churning in his brain.

    I can’t wait until they are still disappointed when there guy fails to live up to his promises.

    • TeeChantel

      “I can’t wait until they are still disappointed when there guy fails to live up to his promises.”
      This is what I am waiting for, Wu. Just so I can sit back and say, “I told you so.”

    • IDareYou

      These are the same people who have deflected, dodged, and ignored all of trumps shenanigans. Most likely they will find someone else to blame for their continued miserable lives.

      • Of course they will. I mean who has time for self-reflection.

    • Brown Rose

      If and when they get disappointed, they will blame Obama. They have blamed him throughout his eight years for everything from somehow falsifying his school records, being an affirmative action, not being an America, etc..etc, etc etc. They won’t blame Trump at all.

      • Blaming Trump would mean that they would be at fault via the voting process and we can’t have that.

        • Brown Rose

          Which they would never do. Because that would take some intelligence and self reflection and you know empathy for those who are not white. it would require them to realize that they are mind numbingly mediocre. Not Happening. They’ll continue to cling to the fiction that Whites are superior and its Black et al, that crapped on their greatness.

    • DCFem

      They will never be disappointed. They will always vote their skin color. And they will always be happy when there are white men in all of the positions of power, no matter what horrible things those white men do. These folks are stupid and racist down to their bone marrow. There is no changing them or hope that they will ever do better.

      • Brown Rose

        The racism is just too engrained in America. Its never going away. Its baked in. Rich, poor, it always been about identify politics. Always.

      • Why did some of the Trump voters vote for Obama in 2008 and 2012?

        • Me

          For the same reason some of the Clinton voters voted for Romney and McCain. There’s always about 10% of voters that go against their registered party in every election.

          • If, as is being argued in this post and elsewhere, it’s true that Trump voters were all racists there’s no way that any of them should have ever voted for Obama once, let alone twice. That some did at least suggests that racism is not the sole motivating factor.

            • Hugh Akston

              other posts got held in mod but again

              why did slave owners who thought black folks were an imals still had s e x with them? why did some yt folks that voted for O said along the lines “i’ll vote for that n*g g er”? who is john galt?

  • Diego Duarte

    And now the largest police union issues a statement asking Donald Trump for changes in policy, including:

    – The legalization of racial profiling
    – A reversal on the federal government’s latest position on ending private prisons
    – The repeal of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare)
    – The death penalty for all “cop-killers”
    etc, etc, etc

    https://fop.net/CmsDocument/Doc/TrumpFirst100Days.pdf

    I don’t ever want to hear that tired line of “good cops” ever, ever, ever. If this is what they put out, it just goes to show you it’s not just a few bad apples. The whole orchard is dmn rotten.

    • Brown Rose

      This will happen. Trump and Sessions and the rest of the ringwraiths will make it happen. With all those generals packed in–not surprising if Cops nationwide becoming even more militarized and completely untouchable.

    • L8Comer

      Jesus I literally choked on my tea. They came out the gate swinging. Just completely did away with all pretenses

      • Diego Duarte

        They essentially don’t care anymore. They feel on top of the world. No need to pretend anymore. And here it is, the materialization of those FBI reports warning the president back in 2005 of the infiltration of white supremacists in law enforcement.

      • CrankUpThe_AC

        Lmao a reversal on racial profiling. That is bold.

    • Negro Libre

      1. Could reverse the change in U.S.-Cuba relations, perhaps until such time as the copkillers harbored there are returned to the U.S.
      2. De-prioritize implementation of some or all of the recommendations made by the President’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing
      3. Issue new directives to U.S. Attorneys to prioritize violent crimes and to seek the death penalty in Federal cases involving the murder of a law enforcement officer
      4. Reverse or amend the broad, Bush-era ban on racial profiling by all or some Federal agencies
      5. Legislation to repeal, and possibly replace, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare) which may end the impending “Cadillac tax” that is slated to take effect in 2018

      1. That’s very specific lol smh.

      2. Very political for a union that represents the judiciary branch of government. Why I don’t like public unions.

      3. Judiciary Branch Union once again trying to dictate how Executive branch should function.

      4. Welp…why is it that they can’t just admit that they hate the 4th amendment? It would make things so much easier.

      5. Interesting perspective on health care, too bad, once again, they are representing a branch of government, that is dictating to another branch of government what they should do.

      Not surprised, always knew that the police in the U.S. were trying to be a special interest group and a branch of government as the same time, and the media was honoring this ambition. It’s a great way to subvert the separation of power clauses and become one of the most powerful special interests groups in the country, without having to spend the money or securing the votes that other interest groups need to remain relevant.

      • KNeale

        Thank you for sharing this. Can you attach a link so I can forward to some of my people? I tried to google it and couldn’t find any good links.

        • Diego Duarte
          • KNeale

            Sorry I missed it. Just read it. The document says at the bottom that its not what the FOP is advocating or their agenda but a summary of potential policy or legislation changes a Trump administration could enact that would impact police.

            • Diego Duarte

              Whelp, you are absolutely right. It completely missed that paragraph at the bottom.

      • Cheech

        Just a little nitpick–cops are executive branch, not judicial.

        And yes, they’ve always hated the 4th amendment, since the 4th amendment is pretty much squarely aimed right at them.

        • Negro Libre

          You’re right about that, always thought they were members of the judiciary. Should have paid more attn in civics.

          • Cheech

            That’s OK, they definitely think of themselves that way. As the saying goes, they appoint themselves judge, jury, and executioner.

            • Socrets

              So who wants to tell the police that Judge Dredd was actually satire and not a blueprint for law enforcement?

          • Socrets

            Don’t fret too much. You still know more than the 60 Million bigots who voted for Trump.

      • This is a shining example of what happens when whites tell you how they really feel about you.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bce29cd35a9a58db8685491c4a87ef94f786d5a3ae474c6e9503f1c71bc8bd14.jpg

      • L8Comer

        Yea I read that and thought, wow, they’re still sore about Asata Shakur.

      • KNeale

        Not trying to derail and also not a police apologist but the document this was pulled from says at the bottom that its not the FOPs agenda nor what they are advocating for and instead just a summary of potential legislation/policy the Trump administration could enact that would impact police.

    • Police unions are just salivating about doing their work under the con man from New York. I’m considering joining my local chapter of the ACLU.

      • Cheech

        Don’t walk, run.

      • Diego Duarte

        They seriously think they can push this without any backlash? There’s only so much you can push a person before they reach their breaking point. The French aristocracy never saw it coming either.

      • Diego Duarte

        And speaking of backlash…

        INB4 the takedown of these neonazis is labelled “Blacklash”!!!

    • Janelle Doe

      Diego, Imma let you finish but why does the Police union care about Obamacare?

      • LMNOP

        I wondered that too. I’m assuming members of the police union have good employer subsidized insurance, you would think this would be an issue that doesn’t affect them at all.

      • Diego Duarte

        Cuz at this point there no longer any need to differentiate between ignorant Trumpanzees and police in general. They are, and have always been, one and the same.

        • Janelle Doe

          tks for the clarification. supersad

    • Sparger

      Well Hillary didn’t do enough to let us know the GOP was crazy racist and rotten to the core. I heard so many young people say they couldn’t vote for Hillary due to the Crime Bill she campaigned for. The one Bernie and the majority of the congressional black caucus voted for as well as Uncle Joe. We need to be more pragmatic. Who gets you most of what you want. If it was Trump vote for him, if it’s Hillary vote for her. Its not that hard.

      • Diego Duarte

        Thing is she did call them out on this. EVERYBODY DID. And yet, even now, as we speak, these people still insist that they’re not racist, misogynist or xenophobes. They claim that the word “racist” has lost its power, yet they continue to get their panties in a bunch over being rightfully labelled as such.

        In short: they want to be shtty people and for no one to call them out on it.

    • Red October

      They are literally acting like the Gestapo. Infringing on rights of the people in the name of power and racism. Disgusting. Not shocked at all they demanded this with President-Elect Cheeto about to take office. AmeriKKKa the Beautiful indeed.

  • Vanity in Peril

    If you’re a dwight puursun who runs into me today, regardless of who you voted for, ima need your whole entire face to be 100% somber-like because if a muckasucka catch even an iota of joy on your alabaster face…

    *ragestroke https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b67aa12b14b73333838820db74b74f83bd8b72ed250127b3c05cd57561639d83.jpg

  • Brown Rose

    I have been saying some variation of this for months and months. Russia has been consistently seen as an enemy on Obama’s watch yet, many Republicans have cozied up to him and felt that Obama wasn’t as autocratic and white enough to be an effective leader. Even as Obama went tough and used sanctions against Russia, cratered their economy and shored up Russia as the small minded bully it was–a paper tiger whose only real resource was oil. But of course that wasn’t enough for a lot of white Republicans. Its never enough, despite the preponderance of evidence that they are facing now. They are still making excuses. The evidence is stupefying that Russia has been enmeshed with Republicans and help scuttled the election with the FBI’s help mind you.

    But of course, all of this could have been avoided if a bunch of angry poor AND rich white people hadn’t voted in that monstrosity and his cadre of moldy, zombie Ringwraiths into the white house. The only group of people that were a barrier was a bunch of Black people especially Black women. Everyone else was on board with voting for him. Its pure unadulterated racism. As it always is in America.

    • gn

      The GOP saw the writing on the wall re: American demographics and realized that they couldn’t get a candidate through the presidential primaries who could win a national election. And so in terror welcomed help from a hostile foreign power despite the fact that said hostile foreign power would like nothing more than the collapse of the US into the same oligarchy which is misruling them. Doesn’t get much more stark than this.

  • Vanity in Peril

    I saw somewhere, I think maybe on Instagram, a recount of a recent Badu concert where she enters the stage in a cloud of smoke. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/38982718131e011dac490ea522fb672c18e4bb7acc0aceeaabacff7cb58d3a87.gif And she addresses the audience that she has just returned from the future and that, “we win!”

    When I tell you I cried, ugleeazz tears.

    • Blueberry01

      The white OG in the back….BOOM.

  • gn

    The deplorables were outvoted. The question was, is, and will remain: what happened to US democracy?

    • Kas

      Take out Cali and New York and I don’t thank you statement holds up. Which takes us back to the reason that states electoral votes don’t match their population..

      • gn

        “Take out Cali and New York” whyever would I do that?

        • Kas

          Read my second sentence.

      • gn

        “The coasts don’t vote for regressives, thus the coasts should no longer count.”

        I reject that logic in its entirety. The counties which Clinton won represent 2/3 of the United States economy. The GOP narrative that we’re supposedly irrelevant is absolutely ridiculous.

        • The portion of the economy which Clinton counties may represent is irrelevant. Unfortunately for Clinton she could not stop Trump from breaking the “blue wall” of the Midwest.

      • Kylroy

        Well yes, and take out Texas and Trump’s loss becomes a landslide. This is what happens in close elections.

        • Kas

          No argument from me.

      • Negro Libre

        Yeah, I see no legitimacy in these popular vs. electoral votes arguments. The same arguments that give justification to the electoral college also give legitimacy to the house of representatives, yet, I doubt most of these people would make such arguments that we should get rid of the House of Reps.

        It seems people want a more Direct Democracy as opposed to a Representational one. If that’s the case, they should be more honest about what that means, and what the consequences of such a thing would be.

    • Brown Rose

      In the Blue states. Everywhere else, the majority of whites voted for him.

      • gn

        60% of white people voted for Romney (same margin as now), and even after Bush, 55% of white people voted for McCain and Palin. Democrats only receiving a large minority of the white vote is absolutely nothing new. Someone losing by three million votes but claiming that invisible GOTV operations in key states delivered a miraculous win for him is what’s new…

        • Brown Rose

          The popular vote is meaningless. Its not going to change the electoral outcome. The majority of her popular votes came from heavy Blue states.

          • gn

            And the majority of the Trump vote comes from regressive areas. My point is that we’re now at a point at which we have three branches of a federal government controlled by a party that the substantial majority voted against. With a Supreme Court vacancy kept open in contravention to the US Constitution, this country is in an emergency situation. If we did not vote these people in, how in the world will we be able to vote them out, after they obtain even more power with which to game the system? This is a crisis, and IMO it’s not a temporary one.

            • Brown Rose

              I agree with this. It is a crisis. There is no way to stop it.

              • gn

                Is there really no way to stop an illegitimate person from seizing the power of the US presidency similar to the oligarchs seizing Russia’s economy? I’m not sure about that. Timidity and dithering has led to this, the outcome is not natural or inevitable in the slightest.

                • Brown Rose

                  No. there is no way to stop it. The Republicans could have done this months ago. But they didn’t. They have continued to legitimize and back him in order to push through their own heinous inhumane agenda. Ryan and McConnell are salivating right now with their victory to ensure dismantling of safety nets and to enrich their donors and themselves.

  • Lisss

    I’m sorry…but i dont feel a tiny teeny weeny bit bad for America today. I have been laughing maniacally like the Joker everytime i read an article on american politics for the last month or so.
    But this Russia thing?? Gold, i tell ya! Gold! The country that has been messing with other people’s politics for decades get a taste of their own médicine. Karma is an everlasting murderous b***h…and i love her.
    No, i was wrong. I do feel a bit bad. For the minorities who will suffer cause of white people’s foolishness. Then again, its not y’all first time, right? Y’all will survive. Y’all aint got a choice.

    • Kas

      You write like a possible troll but you speak nothing but truth. Interesting.

      • MsCee

        I’m putting my money on tragic mulatto who grew up around mostly whites so self-identifies as white also but still Black…cause ya know…one drop rule.

        • Lisss

          LMBO! Y’all got me so f***** up.
          Did it ever occur to y’all that some people around the world are simultaneously sympathzing with AA causes but fed up with America’s bullsh** ? One does not negate the other.

          • LMNOP

            So, who are you? And where are you from?

            • Lisss

              From a galaxy far far away called Port-au-Prince (exiled to Québec)
              And if you know the story of Haiti, then you understand my ectasy at watching the fall of imperialist f****.
              Even if they are to be simply replaced.

              • Malaika Jabali

                I hear ya folk. But also, what Kas said is true. America has always been a mess. But unfortunately in this burning house are lots of black folk who had little choice in being here. When America catches a cold, we get pneumonia.

          • Kas

            I agreed with everything you said. However, the way in which you said had an edge to it and nothing implying sympathy for people of color. Reread your last two sentences.

            • Lisss

              Sorry for what may have seem like a lack of empathy. My adolescent years were spent in Fort Lauderdale around african-americans and i have nothing but admiration and love for you all.
              My last two sentences were honest statements: I really do hope y’all survive. Y’all (we) have been resilient for so long and have survived so much. You (we) must get through this as well.

            • Negro Libre

              I kind of disagree with that here, when you’re looking at a country from the outside looking in you see the country, not the various set of groups that make it up. If you’re in Haiti and you saw all those soldiers on your land decades ago, I’m pretty sure not all of them were white.

              We usually see other countries the same way.

              • Kas

                I still say nothing about the original post implied any sympathy for AA.

              • Hugh Akston

                pretty much

                given that i’ve spent quite a few years abroad, and even Haiti (ergo Clinton issues) i never see the US as most Americans do…im always outside looking in..everytime i spend a few years i just get the urge to get the bleep out because this ish isn’t normal

          • Kas

            I agreed with everything you said. However, the way in which you said had an edge to it and nothing implying sympathy for people of color. Reread your last two sentences..

          • L8Comer

            This won’t affect the people you really want it too however. I agree US had taken advantage of ruined many peoples countries. Those responsible for that won’t get their comeuppance with trump tho… it’s gonna be the poor people and minorities who suffer. Many of us who never agreed with US foreign policy anyway

      • Blueberry01

        It is the non capitalization of the i’s that make it trollish for me….

    • gn

      Civil War era insanity with nuclear weapons? I don’t think that anyone on planet Earth should be laughing. This country is in an incredibly dangerous place and the repercussions will affect everyone IMO. Sweden preparing for war with Russia in 2016…this is a worldwide issue and we’re going to rise or fall together.

      • Lisss

        Living in Canada, no one is more aware of this than me. I’m literally right next to y’all and Orange Cheeto has managed to inspire some gremlins over here.
        However, the fall of an empire always come with casualties.
        If y’all can manage to spare us the next four years under that montrosity, good. If not, i will not lie and pretend that i wont get a tiny bit of joy after what America did to my home country.

        • L8Comer

          Only what happens here will affect many countries Aside from the US

      • Giantstepp

        This is my concern with Trump being elected. Domestically, and as black people, we’ve been thru the BS here in America, and we can weather that storm, whatever policies are changed/implemented. My fear is on a Global level. With his combination of ignorance, ego and now having the power of the Presidency is very dangerous. IMO of course :).

    • Nortey

      Troof

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