I published something at Ebony yesterday about the peculiar infatuation many white-collar young black guys seem to have with Rick Ross. Titled “Strange Love: Black Men and Rick Ross,” I tried to come up with a few reasons to explain this phenomenon, but I didn’t really buy any of them. There were no “Voila!” moments, just a couple theories that didn’t hold as much water as I would have liked them to.
Anyway, after I saw that the article was live, I posted a link to it on Twitter. It got a few replies/retweets, but none more interesting than the responses I got from Demetria Lucas.Â
@VerySmartBros@EBONYMag there’s a quality essay to be written abt why bourgie women like Ross too. Totally diff reasons than you mentioned.
@VerySmartBros LOL. I might be one of his biggest fans.
@VerySmartBros@EBONYMag i enjoy the themes of hustle/ambition. and also the shameless arrogance. similar reasons to why I like Kanye.
As I said in a reply to her, I remember how floored I was a few years ago the first time I heard a female friend of mine express that she was infatuated with Rick Ross. As variable and unpredictable and arbitrary and contradictory and occasionally dependent on time, weather, location, vocation, and how many of her girlfriends want to sleep (or have already slept) with him as “what the hell women are attracted to” tends to be, I thought I had a pretty good idea of the type of guy that would get multiple women all Brazilian Rainforesty down there. Basically, it’s easy to see how and why women would be very attracted to guys like Idris Elba and Dwyane Wade and Common, and you assume that most women would go gaga over those guys.
But, that same instant recognition didn’t immediately apply to Ross, and I had trouble “getting” how a life-threateningly obese guy who looks like he smells like a Black & Mild factory managed to, to quote my homegirl, get her “all tingly inside” when he speaks.
Yet, as more and more and more and more women I knew would sing his praises, it began to dawn on me. His appeal isn’t necessarily about his music or his voice or his larger-than-life stature or even his (presumed) riches as much as it’s about the fact that he is an unfalteringly, unflinchingly, unflappably, and, to be quite honest, irrationally confident motherf*cker. His steadfast belief in his own “I’m the sh*t”-ness — even when the shaky merits of his status are publicly questioned and exposed — is infectious, causing others to believe “Well, if he’s so certain, he must be the sh*t” by osmosis.
Obviously, this doesn’t affect everyone. There are many women who are, for lack of a better term, disgusted by him, and even more disgusted that everyone isn’t disgusted.
Ross is just one example, though, of the fact that there is no other quality a man can possess that will “raise his sexual stock” better than a belief in himself so strong it almost borders on insanity. Irrational self-confidence — not height, not status, not intelligence, not handsomeness, not a Bentley coupe —Â is the ultimate panty-dropper.Â
This doesn’t mean that this level of confidence won’t immediately repel many women too. It most certainly will. In fact, it will immediately repel far more women than it immediately attracts. But, the fact that it does repel actually adds to the aura, as knowing that this irrationally confident motherf*cker doesn’t give a damn if his irrational confidence offends anyone, hurts any feelings, or even makes any logical sense has a way of turning women all the way on.
Also, it’s important to note that I keep repeating terms like “panty-dropping” and “turned on” and “tingly” and “Brazilian Rainforesty.” That’s intentional. By and large, women usually do not want to seriously date and/or marry irrationally confident men. No one aside from the WorldStarHipHop “model” of the week actually wants to marry Rick Ross.
But, white-collar brothers, be warned. Why? Well, let’s just say that if your girl is sitting beside you smirking to herself while you’re blasting “MC Hammer” in the whip on the way to brunch, she’s probably not thinking about bottomless mimosas.
—Damon Young (aka “The Champ”)
Ewwww I can’t imagine any woman being turned on by Ross, however I do understand the consept. That was one reason I used to salivate over Kanye.
Only thing I’m confident in about Rick Ross is that he is disgustingly obese, needs to buy a Subway and not a Wingstop, and slide me a few stacks to work his obese, man with tatas looking self out. He’s gross….yuck ! But I see your point, for some reason the thirst is there, with some women for him and his man breast.
Only thing I’m confident in about Rick Ross is that he is disgustingly obese, needs to buy a Subway and not a Wingstop.
+1
Rick Ross needs to call Jared and get that deal going.
+1 That dude needs to eat fresh!
Yeah. He needs to eat fresh, run about 4 times a week, use all the time he spends picking crumbs out of his beard to weight train, and then maybe he can start entering the average atmosphere in terms of his weight.
This is super funny…I was just talking to my co-worker about Ross the boss because he could not believe I like the guy. Yes I do, and I love his cocky lyrics which makes me feel bad ass while driving home. Screw the love songs I need some Ross in my life.
+1
Curse my rational mind! I’ll get you for this sanity!
Rick Ross’ swag aint nothin new. Its been done before (only better) by another fat rapper yall might have heard of….. his name BIGGIE SMALLS!!!!! RIP
Let em know!!!
But I’m having a hard time tryng to decipher who looked better though. #welp
Re Rawse’s “larger than life stature”… I’ve met him. He is not THAT big vertically or laterally. His actual presence in contrast to his stage/auditory presence is sufficiently underwhelming. #welcometohollywood.
“…and even more disgusted that everyone isn’t disgusted.”
I barely know who Rick Ross is but that statement describes how I feel a lot of the time.
+1
Val, I totally love your eyebrow in this avi. Is that threading in action??? (Yes, I care more about a perfect eyebrow than Rick Ross.)
While I will agree that confidence (even outsize confidence) is very secksy in a man, I don’t find Rick Ross even slightly appealing on a man level. Just the thought that he could be brewing some gravy under his man boobs is enough to turn the Brazilian rainforest to the Arctic.
I appreciate the hustle, but he can take that somewhere else. Ditto on Kanye. The one celebrity that could take me to the rainforest is David Banner…I’m a sucker for a guy who’s smart enough to belie his public ig’nant persona.
I like David Banner but I like Kanye too. Rick can keep it moving though. Ew.
Yup. He need 2 go sit his police azz down sumwhere. Preferably in a jenny craig office. RUH!!!
Yea, I def. agree on David Banner. That’s a sexy man not this Rick Ross fella.
Dead -n- Fertlized @brewing some gravy under his man boobs
Bwahaaaaaa
“Just the thought that he could be brewing some gravy under his man boobs is enough to turn the Brazilian rainforest to the Arctic.”
This is just 25 types of WRONG!!! LOLOL
Irrational self-confidence — not height, not status, not intelligence, not handsomeness, not a Bentley coupe — is the ultimate panty-dropper
Co-sign. I’d agree more with this post if it was about Kanye than Rick Ross, but agree that self-confidence goes far.
Since we are explaining Rick Ross’s appeal, can someone please explain Lil Wayne and Wiz Khalifa to me? Do they have panty-dropping irrational self-confidence too?
Did you just ask if Weezy has self-confidence? The man gave himself the best rapper alive while Eminem is still in this plane of existence? Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge Wayne fan, even though he’s not as good as he used to be. It’s just that…Eminem is kinda sorta, the greatest rapper ever. So for anyone to claim a “best ever” title while that man is still alive, has confidence that only be rivaled by Zeus and the rest of the Olympians.
Wiz Khalifa on the other hand…I just don’t see it. Like at all. I don’t even like Amber Rose, she’s not even that pretty to me. Average at best. But even my face did the Nicki Minaj thing when I heard he married her.
Eminem greatest rapper ever.
Na Homie. And I like Eminem
Agree 100%. I mean in the pantheon of great rappers he’s certainly in the group, in the pantheon of great lyricist he’s certainly in the group, but greatest ever in either category?
Uh negative. Especially lately, I mean I like Eminem but his last 2 albums were straight up trash if you’re objective about it.
Like Eminem too but I haven’t loved him since The Eminem Show.
Even Eminem hinted at the fact that Relapse wasn’t really that good (and there are certainly understandable reasons why it wasn’t good) but the bottom line was that it wasn’t really that good.
Nah. I still say Eminem is the best ever. He’s #1 while Jay-Z is #2. I think the problem with Eminem is that as he’s gotten older, he’s developed what I like to call “Ludacris Syndrom.” Where is albums aren’t that good (even though I really like Bad Meets Evil and Recovery, never heard Relapse) but whenever he’s featured on someone else’s track, he murders them. That’s actually been a trend of his since he had the best verse on Jay-Z’s ENTIRE album, The Blueprint back in 2001.
But even to this day, my 3 favorite rappers of all time are Eminem, Jay-Z, and Tupac. Biggie is…somewhere in my Top 15 I suppose. Probably #13 or so.
By discography, Jay-Z has to be considered the best ever. Not all of his albums are classic, but he doesn’t exhibit the obvious drop off that Eminem clearly does.
By legacy, Rakim has to be considered the best ever. The first m.c. to put a premium on lyricism (no diss to BDK and KGR, they were both lyrical too, used a lot of literary devices, but Rakim was a completely different level).
By impact, it’s perhaps a 3 way tie between Biggie, Pac, and Em – they all seemed to excite different demographics, but each of them changed the way people looked at hip hop (both as an art and as a product sadly).
Eminem greatest rapper ever.
Na Homie. And I like Eminem
Didn’t get to finish that post. But yeah, I’m not goin to get into arguing who’s the best ever. I like Em a lot. Certainly among the elite, but I’d actually have to agree with HIS (meaning Eminem) top 5 list. The fact that he listed the artists he did makes me want to put him in my top 5. Shrewd move on his part. What a clever fella he is lol
I can do a lot of things, but obese ain’t one. A man with lady curves. *shudders*
But catch me in some strange country drunk off my ass on a yacht with a bunch of hot people who don’t speak English and Lil Wayne. I’d do him. His confidence and the way he talks about things he does with that little mouth… Yeah, I could see getting naked with that ugly little man. But don’t tell anybody I said that.
LOL! @ ugly little man!
No WC. No. I wouldn’t let you.
” Amber Rose, she’s not even that pretty to me. ”
I co-sign this part of your statement. Don’t know about all that other stuff. I think Amber has a unique look, but she’s not attractive to me either. I do think I would enjoy dating her tho. She seems to have a pleasant personality and a girly charm. She might have the single most sexy voice I’ve heard in my life too….so I still kinda want her even though she’s not pretty to me…and that *ss is a boneraiser too…so yeah I’d still smash lol
To me, she looks like any average young lady who cut her hair off. She’s pretty though, not ugly, seems nice, I read a little about her background and it was sad. I saw her judging a DJ competition…is she just famous for dating Kanye?
@WIP- Yeah, average is right (and with gold hair). I mentioned that same sentiment (that she was only famous for datin Kanye) and one of her stans verbally beat me like i stole somethin. Informing me that she was a Forbes model (and not mentioning that she was a relatively famous stripper in Philly too). So I guess there’s more to her than Kanye and Khalifa….
Of course you would. Sh!t, I would and I’m a straight woman lol. Some people just have something about them.
What? Skinny dudes with interesting features can’t be cocky and very confident too? lol
If you are talking about Wayne, I’m thinking he is more like a gremlin see pic: https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSENhrbAkaXZjP5V9SCqN5q9jTjeGr1dz1zv_qk-uem9U7UdMdsVQ
Someone once told me they thought Wiz looked like a catfish.
He does. He would make a cute Disney cartoon catfish character in a movie. lmao
Slayed. Completely.
I think you’ve just nailed Wiz’s next career move!
Shark Tale II: Catfish Revenge
Oh they can. But I don’t have to feed into their delusions. lol
Didn’t know Wiz Khalifa had appeal. He looks to fragile. Lil Wayne is more about personality. He seems like the guy everybody would want to hang out with (until they start snorting.) And his locs are nice.
Re: Wiz
I didn’t either. But I know a few chicks that say they find something about him attractive. What that could be…
I don’t know why but Wiz Khalifa looks like his breath stinks.
He looks like his everything stinks. I feel the same about Jim Jones. Just want to take some Comet and a steel wool pad to both of them.
Nahhh, *lmbooo*
I can’t let you clown jimmy like that. Albeit yes he do have that pigpen kind of swag about him but when he gets ready – that boy gets fresh and clean and FINE!!!!!
He can get definitely GET IT!!
lollll
I found the shower scene he did on L&HH to be pretty nice, although it took away all his cool points.
Can’t nobody with their own personal dust cloud get nothing from but a side eye and a bar of soap. But you gone head.
Looking at Jim Jones just makes me itch.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels this way about Jim Jones… Wiz Khalifa looks like a young, dirty and high Morgan Freeman to me. Nothing segzy about that.
with mainstream rappers, there’s nowhere to go with the braggadocio but up, even if the ‘up’ they go to doesn’t exist in reality. i keep getting an image of denzel in training day, just shot up, beat up, and still talking sh*t to a gang of muff-huggers that have him surrounded.
Because I have always been an admirer of quiet strength, Rick Ross-type in your face-ness is a usually a turn-off for me. It can be intriguing if I already think he’s attractive, but not his torso reminds me of Mr. Potato Head.
The times I have been intrigued by crazy overconfidence I think it was driven by wanting to be in on the secret. As in, “I need to know what that is about; What am I not seeing?”
Because I have always been an admirer of quiet strength
Yea, I like this quality as well.
+1. Give me quiet strength please, with a great big helping of genuine competence. A man who knows what he’s doing (whatever that is) can get it all day, anywhere. Since he’s busy doing him, he doesn’t have a lot of time to boast, front and floss.
When I see the irrationally confident, all I’m tryna do is get out of their way. When you see crazy coming…you cross the street.
Not *if* his torso reminds me of Mr. Potato Head.
I think more women are attracted to Ross than they let on…
The amount of overconfidence i show depends on the female…it’s about pulling out the right amount of cockiness to get your point across.
pun intended.
Are women really turned on by him or his money? No amount of confidence could want me to smang a manatee
“No amount of confidence could want me to smang a manatee”
I had to pick myself up b/c that literally made me fall down. (Good thing I’m in bed.)
Money is the ultimaate afrodisiac…I’ll discuss more in my full response.
Dead at this.
+Me
“No one aside from the WorldStarHipHop “model†of the week actually wants to marry Rick Ross.”
“Model” is a euphemism for “hot and unemployed.”
hot? My, aren’t we generous
I’ve never looked at the WSHH “models.” I’m assuming that if someone finds you appealing enough to publish on their website, somebody thinks you’re hot…some kind of way.
Aaaannnddd… all the more reason for yall to see this Youtube gem called “ShawtBus Shawty Reloaded,” at 0:19 mark they shine the light on the Bawse =) http://youtu.be/wR2F9Km5d0w
LMAO!!! I actually like most of the people they went after but that ish was hilarious!
Yes, it was!!!
They went in on Plies LMAO… my guilty pleasure rapper… he doesn’t tell the whole world that he majored in Nursing =)
Pure hilarity! I am officially slayed!
I’ve seen a non-celebrity example of what Champ is talking about. He was a guy who was trying to get with my older sis (everything I learned about boys I learned from watching my older sis and her parade of follies).
Apparently, he had infinite levels of confidence. This cat looked like…well, just imagine Alfred E. Newman in black face. I don’t know if my sister invited him to stop by the house as a freak show, or if she secretly fell for his swagger and didn’t want to admit it. Anywho, I saw this dude in person, and discovered that not only was his face offensive, but he smelled like toe-jam.
He claimed that he had a bevy of girlfriends. I suppose I wasn’t yet old enough to produce whatever girlie hormones contribute to the goggles that obscured this man’s hideousness. The idea of this dude pulling any chick simply amazed me.
I think it really has little to do with the personal view of himself, i.e. “self-confidence” and more to do with the old adage of a man having money and notoriety and women being infactuated by that….point and case…let “ricky rozay” go broke tomorrow and lose the recording contract and see how far his sex appeal goes then…
Lol, I’m never really been a fan of the Bawse. I like a few of his songs, but mostly for the beat. I couldn’t imagine anyone being attracted to him but hey, to each her own. Though I have heard, and found out from experience that some women are attracted to confidence. Like, extreme confidence. I remember an encounter I had with a female while we were getting off the train. My body language must’ve reaked of confidence because I was doing that signature walk and stare all guys do when we got a fresh new haircut because we JUST left the barbershop either that day, or the day before. You know, that walk that says, “I know every female in this b*tch wanna give birth to my triplets right. Damn. Now.”
Anyway, the female approachs me and compliments my looks. Me being in perhaps too jolly of a mood, jokes around and gives her an exceedingly confident response. Something along the lines of “I’m cute? I know this! You tellin’ me this sh*t as if a n*gga aint got mirrors in the crib!” Surprisingly, I got the number.
“I was doing that signature walk and stare all guys do when we got a fresh new haircut…”
Now this made me LOL. There is something to a fresh tape up line.
Yes confidence does do wonders.
It also helps that Ross is good at his craft. If he was making music a lot of people didnt like then Champ wouldnt ever have to write this post
Yea yea I know half of you only listen to that real deep spiritual/pseudo-intellectual hip hop.
But Ross entertains
Many of the most successful rappers are not that attractive: Jay Z, lil Wayne, Biggie Smalls, and Fabolous to name a few. I guess it comes with the industry, good looking is a plus but not a necessity as it is for many women entertainers in hip hop. In fact it’s the other way around, you need to look good and then sprinkle that with some confidence.
Did you just say fabulous???!!???
Well, he fits at least half that equation.
Yep.
Yes but see there…as a woman you’re insinuating at all of the women look good. Women have a habit of labeling everyone other woman they come across as attractive. Like if someone mentions that lump of ‘hog mawwwg’ Monique women would chime in with “oh but she’s lost some weight!” Nevermind she can’t even shave her legs and stays obese 24/7…
I’ve read the comments (thankfully there are few) & it’s time for my 2 cents…
I’m not going to go on a tirade about how unattracted I am to Rawse the Bawse. It isn’t that virulent. I’m not into him, his looks, or his music other than an occasional “wow that’s good” listen. I bet if I were a bigger fan of his music, I would be more drawn to him. It’s on my to do list to listen to more Ross.
I loved Biggie but never wanted to get w/him. I expect the same if I listen to more RR. I know the production is incredible & he skillfully uses all that he’s got to make it as a rapper & build his empire.
I agree that his appeal *might* have something to do w/perceived wealth as well. Irrational self-confidence can get you so far. It’s the package. The words. The music. The money. The self promotion. The grandstanding. The exposure. They all work together to produce hordes of women who would go for him.
There are reports all over the place that say women’s attraction is not as seated in physicality as men’s. I agree. Wish I could find the link but there’s a report (or few) that point out to women being attracted to men’s ability to provide for their famillies. Apparently men are attracted to potential fertility aka hip waist ratio & women want money & power for survival/thriving insurance. Let me find it right about now…
Ah, it was from this awesome book I read recently “You Are Not So Smart: Why You Have Too Many Friends on Facebook, Why Your Memory Is Mostly Fiction, and 46 Other Ways You’re Deluding Yourself” by David McRaney:
“Psychologist David Buss has spent his career studying the preferences of men and women when it comes to selecting a mate both for short-term flings and long-term relationships. In his book The Evolution of Desire, he points to one crucial aspect which seems to be held above all others when men are making a snap judgment about physical attraction—the hip-to-waist ratio.”
And this:
“Women have more to lose when they make a bad decision, so they have evolved a more complex and particular set of metrics by which potential mates are judged. David Buss says those include, but are not limited to, economic capacity, social status, ambition, stability, intelligence, commitment, and height.”
So, what I’m saying is that Ross has so much access to panties because of the combination of what he represents. Economic capacity, social status, ambition and (possibly) intelligence might be the ticket for Ross. He’s confident, skilled and (supposedly) wealthy, ringing some deeply rooted alarm in biology for some women that he could be a good mate or someone to practice that with.
Rappers are fun. Their braggadocio is infectious leaving many of us envious of their weaving of words and the lives they supposedly live. I like Kanye a lot because I perceive him as intelligent but I would leave at music listening and nothing more. I think Lil Wayne is a tragic yet wildly successful misapplication of genius and I find him no more interesting than listening and shaking my head. There are so many examples of that in the rap world.
In real life–at least for me–you’ve got to have something to back that self-confidence, hence it is not irrational. I like all those indicators Buss mentioned but they’re only the beginning. All I have to say is “You got something to back that up?”
Confidence goes a long way for a man when it comes to making money. So a very confident man is probably more likely to be successful.
@Tessism- Well damn. Just sum it all up so eloquently leaving NO points for anybody else to make about women’s attraction lol. I agree with you. I think GROWN women ie 24 and up still are intially attracted to supreme confidence, but won’t stick around if you don’t have more of the attractive package (no pun intended) to back that confidence up. It’s the teenagers and early 20s chicks that will let u in there with nothin but supreme confidence and persona alone. Good post tho. As a man, most of us realize that it’s what percentage of the attractiveness pie we possess and how much each individual woman values that piece. Nothing more, nothing less…
Thanks!
Post is on point…even the ugliest guy can get a girl to like with persistent confidence and other great points of personality.
Difference between Ross and Biggie is you can see in Ross’s face that he is actually attractive at a slimmer weight. Biggie looks like he’d still be unattractive at a slimmer weight. AND Ross does NOT talk with a LISP due to being so fat!
But for both of them: i LOVE a deep voice! I don’t like Barry White’s for some reason but the deep voice guy in Boyz II Men, Rick Ross, Baby Cham, etc.? LOVE!
Deep voice on a man is about as manly as it gets.
I’m unfortunately not yet into guys fatter than me. *shrugs* Maybe one day.
You would have thought that we would already have learned all of this from the career of Notorious B.I.G, Luther Vandross or Barry White…Anyone who has ever been a witness to “There’s just something about you…” or “I don’t usually do this…”, knows that women’s attraction principles are out of their own control.
“I don’t normally do this” AKA a large chunk of my dating history from 2004-2006.
Seriously though, if you carry yourself in a certain way AND believe you can back up your image, you will get far in the dating game.
I smile every time I hear a woman start talking about what she doesn’t normally do because I know its about to get real ABNORMAL up in this bish!
LOL Word Corey!
LMAO
“attraction principles are out of their own control.” Everyone’s attraction principles are sometimes out of control. Have you seen the type of porn that turns people on?
Porn and Game aren’t related.
There’s a swag for every season (geek swag, fashion swag, looks, etc.). Once you find your lane and people find you, ride it til the wheels fall off.
Yes.
lol true. I like that geek swag tho
+1000. Doesn’t matter what your super hero character is, but if you cultivate it and magnify it and strut that stuff, you will be sexy. Even if your thing is ugly. Strut the ugly and watch women come to you.
I approve of this comment.
I’m a guy who naturally fell into the geek/hipster swag because I’m near-sighted. And the government issued glasses you get in bootcamp are kinda big and they look like something a geek/hipster would wear. Me personally, I’m not that fond of them and tend to take them off when I take pictures (as seen in my avi) and such. However, I have recieved numerous compliments from people (mostly women) that I look nice wearing them. This REALLY pretty chick told me she thought I looked sexy in them and to stop taking them off as it was my “thing” or, my swag. I then found out said chick was 16 years old. Needless to say, I immediately changed the topic to something more age appropriate, like Spongebob.
I don’t think I could ever smang a 16 year old. Not even in Texas (where the age of consent is 16, I believe). That’s just…too young. Now a 17 year old on the other hand? Nah. Well maybe if she’s….nah…
I find Ross to be attractive not bc of his money or the way that he raps but simply bc I think the man is attractive. Being overweight and being ugly are two different things but we seem to place both on the same level. He is big and chocolate and reminds me of a teddy. On the flip side, Kanye West, while cute is also a simple b!tch which takes away from his cuteness. Jay has never been attractive bc he doesn’t have an attractive face. Biggy had a beautiful smile. Something that people forget but unless he smiled, didn’t have the best looking face. Ross isn’t busted in the face and he knows this. There is no reason why he shouldn’t be able to pull women. Top that off with the swag and you have a winning formula.
And for me to call someone ugly takes a lot. Ugly is thrown around way too freely. I have seen disadvantaged but rarely have i seen straight ugly. Flav and KCi = ugly. Ross is no where near them.
I 100% co-sign alla dis…Ross has that intangible quality too…like he’ll take you out for a steak dinner and encourage you to get the 10oz ribeye with the loaded potato, extra butter and two desserts!
plus, I dig his well groomed beard and bald head…….swoon!
“like he’ll take you out for a steak dinner and encourage you to get the 10oz ribeye with the loaded potato, extra butter and two desserts!” Naw, not 2 desserts. He would order the big one and split it with you though.
Mena, Does Rick Ross LOOK like he’d split a stick of gum, let alone a dinner with anybody?
I am mad at you AWE!!! That man would split dessert and his stick of gum
“plus, I dig his well groomed beard and bald head…….swoon!”
girllllll…. I dig that look on any man.
The bald head and groomed beard will get me hot every time.
I had the bald thing down when I was 18. Been doing it ever since.
Unfortunately, I’ve always had trouble growing facial hair up until about two years ago. My old man, Mars Calhoun, said that it’s because we have some Native American blood in our veins. I always knew that once I got a goatee going I’d be unstoppable.
And now…I am.
Between your growing facial hair & those screennames = +1
” I had the bald thing down when I was 18. Been doing it ever since.”
Me too… Since 22. The facial hair can make or break the look too…I finally got it down now tho
BOL at Kanye being a “simple b*tch.”
I agree, I don’t think Rick Ross is a bad looking guy and he knows he’s not ugly. I think Jo-Jo was uglier than Kci, although, I hesitate to use “ugly” as well. People rarely strike me as straight “ugly.”
Simple b!tch: when your self esteem is so low (even though you are a master of your craft) that you overcompensate by being outrageous. When no one gives you the credit YOU feel that you deserve, you cry to any and everyone how you have been wronged in life. These men are also known as diva dudes.
I saw Ricky Rozay in concert last year at my homecoming (PRAIRIE VIEW A&M UNIVERSITY…GO PANTHERS!!!). He put on a GREAT show. For some strange reason, I wanted him to take off his shirt…sadly, he didn’t…and I was disappointed for real. I have no idea why I like him…some things aren’t meant for you to understand.
In other news, IT’S MY BIRTHDAY!!! It’s time to party!!!!
~*~*~*~ HAPPY BIRTHDAY KEISHA ~*~*~*~
Thanks!!!
Enjoy, happy B-day fellow Aquarian.
Thanks!
Huh uh, what your gist is is fat bias. Or as the PC-correct folk say “body porportion bias”
Big Pun
Fat Joe
Biggie
They all had a woman. Some had more than one woman.
I have never met a fat man who was about his business who didn’t have a woman who loved/lusted him to pieces.
Whatever your business is, be arrogant/confident about it and the women will pay attention.
“I have never met a fat man who was about his business who didn’t have a woman who loved/lusted him to pieces.”
I’ve had the same observation.
First, I’m wondering if Obsidian is ghost writing for VSB these days. Seriously. It would explain why dude has been out of pocket the past couple of months, and this post is right up his mother-f*ckin alley. Also, didn’t someone cast Rick Ross in the VSB movie? Throw in the fact that someone mentioned “The Evolution of Desire”, and I’m wondering if VSB has joined the Seduction Community.
That said, I don’t think it’s merely the irrational self-confidence that gets him over. It’s that he clearly has the accoutrements to match the confidence and the belief in himself that he can pull it all of. His self-esteem is off the charts, and few people around are that self-assured on the level he is. There’s also the fact that since he did make a lot of money legally (like getting in on the ground floor of the Real Estate bubble and cashing out at the right time), there are obvious pieces of evidence to his ability to get money. Irrational self-confidence will fall apart by itself. However, once you back it up with actual knowledge of your abilities and the capacity to demonstrate them, women will be instantly attracted and want to share in your world. Who cares if the man never sold a nickel bag in his life? He’s obviously made money one way, so he can do it in others, right?
Oh, and if anyone wants to cop “The Evolution of Desire”, email me at iluminati14@gmail.com I got the hookup.
” That said, I don’t think it’s merely the irrational self-confidence that gets him over. It’s that he clearly has the accoutrements to match the confidence and the belief in himself that he can pull it all of.”
That is call “Being about his business”
“Irrational self-confidence will fall apart by itself.” Vanilla Ice comes to mind.
*sowhatifidatedmyself
Obsidian is gone cause he realized the seduction community is only relevant to the seduction community. Groups of men who for one reason or another refuse to see women as complete human beings and are enraged that women won’t just give them chex. So they come up with complex formulas to trick women out of their panties.
Then 95% of them never leave their basement internet pron to actually try the tricks cause they’re too scared. So they rant about bishes and argue circles about seduction theory.
While people in the real world meet, date, fcuk, marry.
Bless you Wild Cougar. That is all.
+1 @Wild Couger
*crawls from under a rock*
I have never listened to Rick Ross’s music and have only very recently come to know what he looks like because VSB posted an unflattering, bare chested, tattooed, nipple ring wearing, Santa clause belly having picture of him a few weeks ago which made me vomit in my mouth a little….
…and you say women are turned on by this?!?!? Dang things have changed.
I’ve seen all kinds of craziness. Women tend to find “cute features” on a dude when they KNOW they need more people. Sometimes it feels like they trying to convince themselves that buddy is attractive. “He got nice eyelids” or “He has strong earlobes” or whatever they need to tell themselves if fine with me. Women like what they like. All women are different and just cause one likes or doesn’t like you means nothing. Like I think it was Todd said, find your lane and ride that sombitch till the wheels fall off.
It’s black history month and you gonna put the dark dude in moderation? Really?
I think you’re giving women too much credit here. From my observation and experience, we think you’re cute or we think you’re ugly. We’ll still be with you and call you ugly to your face (well, I haven’t done it but I’ve seen it done.) I’ve never heard a women utter “strong earlobes” but I have heard “girl, he ugly but…”
“utter “strong earlobes†but I have heard “girl, he ugly but…†Just like women feel that we know what men find attractive, men think that they know what we find attractive. This is a losing battle b/w the sexes. I won’t make excuses for what i deem is attractive and i wont expect any man to make excuses as well.
Naw I’ve literally heard women utter “he ain’t THAT ugly” and “but he got cute features”…o__O. Dude got cute features like what?? Forearm hair? Might just be me but I find women to be much more likely to begin merging looks and [percieved] personality traits over time. Dudes just be like “man I know she pretty beat but hey…”.
“Might just be me but I find women to be much more likely to begin merging looks and [percieved] personality traits over time. Dudes just be like “man I know she pretty beat but hey…â€.
And there you have it. For women, your personality can turn us completely on or off. You can go from “he’s ok” to “he’s really cute.” Panama wrote a post about this. Men need to be attracted from the jump and women, even though we like the attraction, guys can grow on us. Unattractive women aren’t growing on men (at least i dont think so.)
Also, saying someone is pretty beat is all types of wrong…funny…but wrong
You’re right…somewhat. A really busted chick isn’t growing on a dude. But in my experience, personality with a woman is like special teams in football. It’s not going to take a busted chick to top notch dudes, but it will make what is an ordinary woman extraordinary.
If more women got that, they’d win, but that’s another post.
Yes, we are living in alternate realities sir. I’ve never heard a man say “I know she’s pretty beat…” LOL. A man has to find something s.e.xy. A woman will accept the fact that she’s not attracted if there are other things she likes about you and the attraction can develop. Men only let attraction “develop” on accident.
“He got nice eyelids†or “He has strong earlobesâ€
I can’t take this….*LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
*Dwayne Wade*…..yes.
Naw, I can’t ride with you on this one. I don’t think his self-confidence is that irrational.
1) Many women like very large men and say big guys make them feel protected.
2) His persona is overtly “boss-like” and women like bosses. He is a boss of sorts.
3) To me he’s not the worst looking dude in the world compared to a (RIP) Notorious B.I.G. who rightfully proclaimed himself to be “ugly as ever.” He’s not a bad looking guy.
4) Whoo! Everybody likes that sh*t.
5) I hear he’s a pretty good rapper.
6) To date, he’s rich.
Why wouldn’t this guy have cause to be confident?
This idea “Irrational self-confidence…is the ultimate p.anty-dropper” is one I just can’t visualize as being true. I imagine bad-body girls in ill-fitting clothing talking about being “dimes” and people who can’t sing making promises that’ they’ll be stars after being kicked off American Idol.
@WIP,
“This idea “Irrational self-confidence…is the ultimate p.anty-dropper†is one I just can’t visualize as being true.”
It works about 85% of the time. I’ve conducted studies and sh*t.
*Dwayne Wade*…..yes.
lmao! yes yes yes. See this is why im on #teamWip
Bawse!!
I once knew a guy who had all of RR’s confidence. He told me that I was a fool for trying to be humble.
Never….ever, ever ever….hide your greatness!!!
If you have greatness, then is your confidence irrational? People will eventually see you have nothing to offer if you really don’t.
I’m pretty much indifferent to Rick Ross because I’m not disgusted that people like him or women find him attractive I just don’t care if they do. I don’t however. This attraction that he has is totally lost on me. The words ewww come to mind. I just can’t seem to find the black Santa Clause attractive.
However, I do agree that confidence can be attractive. I just think there is a difference between being confident in yourself and bragging about how great you are to everyone around you. That is a major turn off for me. Someone mentioned quiet strength. I agree with that. Handle your business and be sure of it just don’t be some irrational braggadocio or jerk.
” I just can’t seem to find the black Santa Clause attractive.”
Stop that. There are Black Santa Clauses more attractive than Rick Ross. You’ll only see them in December though.
Black Santas everywhere got insulted by your comment. LMAO
Eh. Call me skeptical but I think it has more to do with his celebrity and money than his attitude. If he wasn’t known as Rick Ross, and instead was just Will (his gubment) that lived down the block — same confidence/cockiness and all — I doubt he’d garner the same level of attention.
This readily explains why a lot of women nearly faint when they see virtually ANY halfway recognizable rapper or ball-player. Based on probability alone, ALL of these guys can’t have panty-dropping good looks.
Hell, I remember this girl I used to talk to used to go NUTS over Trick Daddy. My masculinity won’t let me judge a man…..but……we’ll just say his face upsets me.
I think if the “Bawse’s” taste in beats were more Nas’ish than Maybach III’ish, nobody would like him. He just has a good ear for the epic-sounding. Your reference in the Ebony article might be right about why black professionals like him for the escapism. But if I wanted to purely escape there’s plenty of other better examples of how to do that (word to whatever mental gymnastics Herman Cain has to do on the daily). As much as I hate how cliche this argument has become, I think this is one case where I say his beat-selection is all I care about; I literally can’t quote any of his lyrics off the top of my head.
I think there’s something to be said about the whole epic thing. The rise of hip-hop (and in the 1970s, the rise of funk) has stripped music down to the point that there isn’t this sense of sensuality and scale in music. It’s interesting how people like the Justice League and Three 6 Mafia have worked to bring that sense back while still working in the hip-hop vernacular. Good point.
A lot of that is geographical background and preference. Can’t nobody tell me those Willie Hutch/David Ruffin/Curtis Mayfield/Bobby Womack samples Three 6 be using don’t be snappin off!!
” Can’t nobody tell me those Willie Hutch/David Ruffin/Curtis Mayfield/Bobby Womack samples Three 6 be using don’t be snappin off!!”
+1 Them dudes are the only ones making beats that knock like that with the BEST possible samples they could stack em with. Epic ain’t a strong enough word lol. That definitely plays a large role (no pun intended) in Ross’ appeal.
VSB Family
To many folks are losing site of the fact you could replace Rick Ross with any of the following (Bill Gates, Jay -Z, Oprah, KC, Bill Clinton (or any politician)) and Champ’s post on Irrational Confidence would still be valid. All of the individuals mentioned have an aura about them that cause people to gravitate towards them.
“irrationally confident motherf*cker. His steadfast belief in his own “I’m the sh*tâ€-ness — even when the shaky merits of his status are publicly questioned and exposed — is infectious, causing others to believe “Well, if he’s so certain, he must be the sh*t†by osmosis.”
Going to have to disagree Sigma. Maybe it is irrational to you and Champ b/c y’all don’t find him to be an unattractive man to begin with. However, for someone like me who finds him to be attractive–like if i saw him on the street I would be like, he is cute and would go out on a date with him–to begin with, it isnt irrational for him to believe that he is attractive b/c there are chicks who think that he is cute. He has probably dated enough women before he blew up to know that he is cute so to him, him thinking that he is cute has been justified. Y’all just think that it is irrational b/c you see him as ugly. However, heisn’t. Now if this post was about Flav or KCi, then yes, i would back this post but Ross, nope.
So in other words, since some other chick gave up the drawers to him in the past, he must be attractive.
Man, I think I should start a charity for lame dudes offering easy women and subsidized prostitutes to those with a lack of success in dating. By sheer osmosis, many of them would just get more women because the swag of any sort of success with women would get them over.
“So in other words, since some other chick gave up the drawers to him in the past, he must be attractive.” Now Todd, I know you can read and your analytical skills are usually good. Is that what I said? No.
First, why does a chick need to be easy to find an “unattractive” guy “attractive” What I am saying is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But, if a person that others find to be unattractive is pulling chicks then there must be something there. He isnt unattractive to EVERYONE obviously. His confidence in himself is warranted.
Your statement makes it seem that “unattractive” people should be happy with table scraps and that if anyone wants them something is wrong with that other person. Come on now…
Good catch, because re-reading it, that came off a lot harsher than I thought in my head. Here’s the larger point: in dating, success breeds success. The more some woman gave you a chance, the more likely you are to think you’re all that. Now the likelihood of a dude meeting someone like that is random as f*ck and heavily context dependent. But string together enough successes, and that guy is usually in.
The reason I mentioned the charity is because of two things. One, there are a LOT of guys who fail, not necessarily because they have nothing going for them, but because their self-confidence is shot from one too many rejections. Two, there are women who, by their nature, are going to be kinder to a man. Put those two together, and you have a win-win. The women will be happy because they got to show their caring nature to a true gentle man. The men will be happy because they finally got a chance to win. And one of the few things Oprah got right about men is that men like to succeed. You give a man a chance and chances are he’ll run with it.
Sorry for being so curt the first time around.
Nothing but love Todd!!
“So in other words, since some other chick gave up the drawers to him in the past, he must be attractive.”
No, he is attractive. Obviously this is subjective; many have indicated they thought he was gross but there just as many who disagree. I think y’all don’t want to believe this big dude could be attractive to women; why y’all hate the big dudes?
@ Mena
A few comments:
“Maybe it is irrational to you and Champ b/c y’all don’t find him to be an unattractive man to begin with”. – Not true; attractiveness it too subjective. I realized long ago there’s somebody for everybody.
“He has probably dated enough women before he blew up to know that he is cute so to him, him thinking that he is cute has been justified.” – This is still confidence; irrational or not. Individuals still need to believe that they have something to offer someone; especially when the societal norms go against them. Wesley Snipes still had enough confidence in his game to get it in when light skinned brothers were in and I bet Oprah still dated.
“Now if this post was about Flav or KCi, then yes, i would back this post” – Same rules above apply
But the confidence isn’t irrational and that is what this post was about.
Quick question. Although we all have some level of confidence, don’t we all (or do you) put on a little more of it when we (you) are told that we (you) can’t do or we (you) aren’t something (good enough, cute enough, tall enough, etc.)?
I would call that extra the irrational portion. Sometimes we keep that extra on for so long we forget it’s extra.
Quick question. Although we all have some level of confidence, don’t we all (or do you) put on a little more of it when we (you) are told that we (you) can’t do or we (you) aren’t something (good enough, cute enough, tall enough…
If someone said to my face that I wasn’t cute, that ish would hurt my feelings. It would not make me more confident at all. Now if dude told me that I was cute, I may start switching harder
You missed the point.
) that makes you feel like superwoman, get your do tight and work it! It’s that extra umph that’t the irrational portion. The positive complements only validate the behavior (the extra).
If the social norm says dark is in and your light skinned, are you going to let what they say keep you from getting what you want? I would assume you would put on that outfit (outfit that can be worn in public
“The positive complements only validate the behavior (the extra).” I would say that the compliment probably came before the behavior but now you and I are debating the chicken before the egg.
I’ve been called the ugliest mofo this side of the Mississippi to the finest thing walking and everything in between. I really don’t pay it all that much mind. All it does it let me know where I stand with that particular person. Everybody doesn’t like everything but somebody GOTS to like me somewhere.
But of the people you named (who is KC, btw?) would THEIR confidence be IRrational?
KCi from KCi and JoJo? Great point. If chicks were on them before they blew up then no it isn’t irrational. I am stating that when enough people have told you that you are attractive and you are able to pull men or women then your confidence isn’t irrational at all. It is justified. Just b/c i don’t find you attractive, doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t be confident if you are able to get other women besides me.
I personally find it quite suspect that all these women are on here denouncing one KCi when I VIVIDLY remember all the drooling and liberal tossing of drawers his way when Jodeci was hot. Ya’ll couldn’t get enough of his little shirtless cajun blackened gremlin looking azz.
+1
Time makes the memory selevtively foggy.
We were really trying to get to Devante Swing.
Naw, I didn’t find none of them attractive! I thought they all looked like they were on crack! They had the Whitney Houston syndrome back in the day! Naw….
It wasnt me. I do not do skinny in men. Well, it depends. But skinny AND dry…no sir.
Yeah. Like I’m dark but I’m that silky black. Them nuccas was that ashy black. #Nobueno
I see you Corey…I see you
Ashy Black! Lmao!!!!!
Dry & high is no bueno! Why didn’t Mary come at them with some Eucerin and Nivea?
Now you know good and well that boy needed Crisco. And I’m talking the thick white shortning kind.Soak his little crispy azz in some crude oil and HOPE his skin absorbs .00001% of it.
My chick thinks Rick Ross is sexy. She really has a thing for him. I will NEVER EVER let her live this one down.
For some reason, I’m slightly surprised that the overwhelming majority of people that have commented this morning are as grossed out by RR as I am. I think the grossness has something to do with the fact that his body is always is my face. The arrogant lyrics without the exposed chest and stomach might be palatable. I don’t recall Biggie or Pun or any other rappers of that size being bare-chested that much. Except for Bone Crusher.
Will check back later today to see if the tide shifts…
i can’t take rick ross seriously. ever. i don’t care how much confidence he has.
Pretty much how I feel about him. He may have the occasional banger, but he’s been repeatedly exposed for the fraud he is. Former C.O., fake hustler, fake gangster, wears knock-off clothes, deadbeat dad, and to top it all off even the guy he stole his name from wants nothing to do with him.
Shows you how much street cred means in rap these days.
#Cosign Not only can I not take this fraud seriously, but I’ll give the serious side eye to any woman openly proclaiming he’s sexy.
-_0 Let’s be real, he’s got money and he’s famous. You work the counter at Macy’s or answer phones at Deloitte. You want money and to live out the lies he tells in his lyrics and he wants your vagina. That’s it. End of story.
/rant
Who seriously gives a f%^k about street cred?
remember a guy everybody loved a few years ago named christopher wallace aka biggie? he looked like a shaved silverback gorilla but women would unload a swimming pool on the floor from him just being in the same room. look at all the rockers whose faces look like the front end of a 18 wheeler in a junkyard. Ummmm Gene Simmons anyone? And he pulled SHANNON TWEED! SHANNON TWEEEEEEEEEEEEEED?!
“he looked like a shaved silverback gorilla…”
That wasn’t even called for. ROTFL!
“shaved silverback gorilla”
OMG!!!!!!
I see ya’ll really tryna put me 6 feet under today..
lmaooooo
RIP Biggie
RIP biggie! i was just listenin to 10 crack commandments this morning!
Gene Simmons is example 49124687 of what I said above. Dude got a stage presence like a mutha, can play a guitar and have platinum records and a loyal fan base that’ll move 50,000 units of a practice recording. Of COURSE he could get a Shannon Tweed-level broad. It’s not the cake per se (though it helps) but the ability to be skilled, feel confident in one’s ability and project said confidence.
And the legendary tongue doesn’t hurt him, allegedly.
Yaaassssss.
*quivers*
That’s ALL it’s about. That long, strong @ss tongue.
“Obviously, this doesn’t affect everyone. There are many women who are, for lack of a better term, disgusted by him, and even more disgusted that everyone isn’t disgusted.”
Disgusted may be a bit strong but there is NO attraction whatsoever. I am ALWAYS disgusted when I see him walking around with his shirt open though. But I try to be sympathetic…considering the fact that he probably has overactive sweat glands and could use a cool breeze. * shrugs *
Over active sweat glands?? LMAO!! Ya’ll gettin it today!
Please set my comments free.
Yeaaaaaaaaah….Rick Ross? Nooooooo. I don’t hate the man, but I do have a newfound love for him, that is SOLELY a result of how much I like his songs that are out…NOTHING MORE. But, I understand these women’s head trauma.
Does it work the other way round?
Say you’re a female version of Rick Ross. You look like him and you have that irrational self confidence. What kind of effect does that have on males?
Confidence is sexy.
LOL, good question. Men always say confidence is s.e.xy. Does it apply if a woman is 300lbs?
I heard many men say that Mo”nique was sexy and she was pretty BUT on the downside I never heard them openly say they would try to holla if given the opportunity. Do ya’ll remember Kelly Price?
But we know this already, it’s that same old adage a man can basically look like death warmed up and left out in the sun for 2 days BUT his woman BESTS BE ON POINT…because basically we are their show pieces (our looks give them bragging rights) it ain’t fair but it is what it is and frankly I can understand.
Them dudes was either lying, distracted by the bread and stardom, or have exceedingly low standards. Monique was NEVER even slightly attractive. And that’s pre and post weight loss.
A friend of mine (and not coincidentally a semi-regular poster here) made this observation.
Men try to impress women with what they can do (athletically, socially, financially)
Women try to impress men with how they appear (asthetically, socially, behaviorally)
And, right or wrong, we come to expect the opposite sex to make their presentation to us in those terms (and more often than not they do). So yes confidence matters, but how you look, and how you carry yourself will matter equally. I’ve seen some pretty uh… robust women… pull dudes. There are some constraints. For example:
lim (fanciness x beauty) / weight = 300
x–> oo
Or said another way, as x approacheds infinity, where x equals the number of shots you’ve taken the limit is 300 lbs***. I think morbid obesity is a turn off for any dude. But being overweight (by BMI standards) does not mean you can’t be cute. Most of us are probably overweight by BMI standards…
…alright maybe this only applies to us over 30 but you get the point. Fat aint all bad.
***this is NOT real math. Repeat this equation at your peril.
LOL, I actually have at least one friend who has hit that weight mark. She’s built like a brick house, confident as h.ell and she keeps dudes trying to holler. I think proportion will have a lot to do with it as well.
The way you carry your weight is SO important. 2 dudes could weigh the same but one could be more muscular and over weight and the other just flabby and the muscular over weight dude will get me everytime. And don’t be built like a baseball player. Lawd Jesus. YES!!! Have you seen baseball players stretch before a game?? It is a thang of beauty
I believe some of the VSS has shared my love of a guy who looks like he used to play football. Baseball players are nice as well, they’re all thick, LOL.
Men try to impress women with what they can do (athletically, socially, financially)
Women try to impress men with how they appear (asthetically, socially, behaviorally)
Basically..
Trump said it best while keeping it ALL THE WAY REAL- He married his wife for her looks/beauty just as how HE KNOWS she married him for his money and his business savvy/power, no rose colored lenses around these parts.
“***this is NOT real math. Repeat this equation at your peril.”
eff irrational self-confidence…. Equations make me hot *blush*
Kelly Price and Monique are attractive. Some men love a chunky woman just as much as some women love a chunky man.
But Precious…she needs to stop.
If you walk and talk like you stuff don’t stank and carry yourself like a lady, you can get it!
No, it doesn’t work the same way…what women consider ‘sexy’ and what men consider ‘sexy’ will probably never align, and trying to make it align is a worthless endeavour.
Wisdom spoken.
@ King Jordan- Plus muthafuggin 1! I was gon let it ride, but in my mind I was like “he’s bein nice and gassin these women up.” It certainly can help, but it’s not that important to us. Hence all the constant reminders all over the net to MEN (not women) that women are hyper-sensitive and attracted to confidence. We need all the reminders because our attraction doesn’t work that way. Now temperament plays a larger role in our attraction triggers than most of us (men) like to admit, but temperament and the way she carries herself (which is subjective because different men like different types of chicks) is the equalizer with us, not confidence. Confidence doesn’t hurt a woman though, unless its excessive (ie arrogance or self-righteousness).
Confidence is sexy…to a point. Two things have to be made clear. For one, women have to be confident without having to project. Be the object, not the subject. Two, confidence works when you have competition. All things being equal, a man will choose the more confident woman…but the woman has to be in the running first.
“women have to be confident without having to project”
COSIGN
All genders have shot someone down for trying too hard.
“Be the object, not the subject.”
Now that is some pimp $h!t right there.
Confidence is nice and everything but if you busted you’ll still be busted for me. Now please take your O.G. Buffarilla swag —-> THAT WAY!
Flat____lIned_______ @Bufferilla Swag..
Boy, not today.. Ican’t
lolllll
I was gonna say it doesn’t work the other way around, but Gabourey Sidibe(Precious) got her man and everyone thought she was ugly.
Wait.. She did???? o_o
Just WHERE are you hanging out and what are you watching for you to complain about seeing his naked chest too many times???
I can count on one hand how many times I’ve seen Rick Ross shirtless and I don’t hang out or watch television that’s remotely close to the possibility of seeing that mess again. One time on tv and one time on this blog was enough for me.
It’s all in Rick Ross’ grunts. His songs wouldn’t be half as good nor confident w/o those masterfully placed adlibs. Plus, I’d rather hear him than see him, so his man-curves don’t play into my like for his music.
I thought it was just me! My Ace has been thoroughly confused since like ’07 as to why I love Rick Ross. His voice is sexy, but yes, it’s also the bravado. He looks the way he does and the world tells him he has every reason NOT to think he’s the ish. He’s fat. Dark skinned. Seems to have a bit of a lazy eye depending on the angle. But damned if I haven’t woken up very excited after having a dream about the man.
” As variable and unpredictable and arbitrary and contradictory and occasionally dependent on time, weather, location, vocation, and how many of her girlfriends want to sleep (or have already slept) with him as “what the hell women are attracted to†tends to be,”
Best subordinate clause I’ve ever read lmao! I swear that like sums up your writing style/talent better than any review ever could lol. So d*mn true tho. Ok off to finish the article now…
I was just happy that someone finally spelled “bourgie” with an r…(thanks Demetria Lucas!)…cuz this is a nonissue…Rick could NEVER get it…I need my irrational self-confidence in a smaller package, though Weezy could never get it either. Because the package can only be so small.
I got nothing to add cept fat dudes need (and get) love too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmDAiNfAbhs
let my comment go
Years ago, I was with a guy for two years who no one would have imagined me with (6’4″, 345 lbs) – it was because:
a) he was super confident (you couldn’t tell him he wasn’t the sexiest man on Earth) and,
b) he didn’t try to holla at me (and we worked together so I saw him everyday)
No one likes an insecure douche in any shape or form.
Maybe irrational self confidence coupled with the status of being a popular entertainer and having significant financial success; yup. But just by itself, nope.
*sheepishly raises hand* I’m one of the boogie black women with a thing for Rawse… Yes, me and my locs and degree.. I mean I wouldn’t want to marry the man but I’d date him for fun!
And Idk why ppl think he stinks! He stays in a crispy silk button down with not a pit stain in sight (not an easy feat for a big dude). And he probably knows ALLLL the best restaurants… lol Ijs
“Obviously, this doesn’t affect everyone. There are many women who are, for lack of a better term, disgusted by him, and even more disgusted that everyone isn’t disgusted.”
*raises hand* this is me. i don’t see how anyone finds him remotely attractive. ugh. i call this particular phenomenon The Biggie Effect.
but Kanye and his arrogance…. *swoons* …Kanye also has *real* talent to back it up though. Ross is cool to listen to when i’m ahem, forced to, but nawl. rick ross and panty-dropper just don’t even belong in the same universe, let alone sentence.
Yeah I dont get the Rick Ross thing but I guess Confidence is sexy in all its forms even when it is over-confidence
Rick Ross will take off his shirt, lift his flabby arms and jiggle his huge @ss belly (plus size D man t!tties), and look at you like “what b!tch?” Then go about his day like nothing happened. Call it irrational, but that is REAL confidence. People who are that confident and completely unconcerned with how they look to other people don’t have the mind space to be petty or timid or [insert weak adjective here]; they’re free to focus on being a bawse (lol), however they define that. At least that’s the implication, of course i don’t know the dude personally. But maybe that’s what women are picking up on, whether they realize it or not. Like, “if he’s that truly confident, he’s probably very mentally strong.” And we like strength.
Plus, it’s a confidence that most women probably wish they had. It draws you in because you admire it so much.
These are my speculations. I personally think Rick Ross is the most unattractive person in entertainment. And he SUCKS as a rapper. Same lame sh!t over and over. Dope beats though…I wish him well lol.
well i don’t know much about irrational self confidence..
but this :
i have noticed that lately when i go outside flowers kind of lean just to take notice of me……
doves tend to follow me around for no apparent reason…..
i farted on a elevator then these 2 chicks got on and kept asking me what cologne i was wearing because they wanted to buy it for their boyfriends…….
after a bad meal i had to take a violently visceral number two and my co-workers kept claiming that they heard what sounded like some coltrane and etta james coming from the bathroom…..
i made a pasta dish that tasted like god was having an orgy with his angels in my mouth……
yeah i’m kinda wonderful…….
that is all………………
A lot of what you said sounds like some stuff Slick Rick would say in his songs, LMAO!!!!
Ricky Ross turns me all the way on. And yes, I’d have to agree it’s his cockiness that draws me to him.
This is hilarious! I am not personally attracted to Rick Ross, but your description of what black women are interested in, confusing as it is, is hilarious! Some will undoubtedly be offended by it. But I like your frankness! Check out my blog (started a while but not that long ago…). You might enjoy it! http://lifeofablackgirl.wordpress.com/
Some people up thurr were debating about Lil Wayn’es greatness…..I was in shock, because that lollipop locky locks dude don’t say shit! I basically hear: skdfhjidopfkjdjdfkjf erry time he opens his mouth.
Now onto the man of the hour. Rick Rozzay! eH…..I don’t know how anybody in their right mind would panty drop for him. How??????? I would wager to think, that it would be a 5 seconds dementia moment.
No mater what he looks like, no matter what his life expectancy, The one thing that women love about @rickyrozay is that he is mannish. Women like to know that they will be provided for, protected, and lead. These are all attributes of a boss. The infatuation that women seem to have with the beard is tied to this desire for a manly man.
Stay bossy lovers. @championlvr
lol for some reason rick ross is a turn on for me. I guess each to their own, its something about cockiness that i love….hmmm maybe im a sucker!!!
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