Indoor Baby Pool

It’s a good thing that ninjas don’t read.

And do you know why? Of course you don’t. Here’s why: according to a study conducted by a professor at the State University of New York at Albany, women who have unprotected sex are less depressed and less likely to commit suicide than those women who have protected sex. It would seem that man’s happy juice actually…

…makes you feel better.

Who knew that after all those years of trying to convince women that it was good for your hair, skin, and nails every time we “missed”, that the truth is it really IS helpful to your life. Intro had it right. Give a chick a little Rawdog Hanglow and Frosting and you just might save her life. How about that?

The finding that women who do not use condoms during sex are less depressed and less likely to attempt suicide than are women who have sex with condoms and women who are not sexually active, leads one researcher to conclude that semen contains powerful—and potentially addictive—mood-altering chemicals.

Can you imagine the game that these young boys might be running on their chicky counterparts with this type of knowledge? Even further, how many women upon reading that information really considered it like, “I haven’t been in the best moods lately, perhaps I just need some of that long schlong and sauce combo.”

It’s interesting, no? And it does open a whole barrage of questions and ponderances. Face it, there are a lot of women out there who don’t seem happy that most of us think need some stroking anyway. So imagine if they got the daddy stroke and the children’s pool? They might become the happiest women on Earth. Hell we might be able to singlehandedly save relationships this way. Keep a chick happy, or at least away from being depressed, and she won’t be a raging maniac. No stereotypes.

I wonder if any men, in all seriousness, would notice that their girlfriends were going through “something” and suggest this as a means of possibly making them feel better. I wonder if any woman would actually go for this. Which brings up another interesting question: who’s more likely to suggest going raw, men or women?

I bring that up because I’m sure it depends on who you ask. Women are going to say that men are always trying to get in the pool with no life preserver, but I know plenty of women who are anti-condoms and will think its okay to go raw as long as you trust the person you’re with. I’ve also heard the words from a woman, “it’s okay if you don’t have a jimi, I’m on the pill. We’re fine.” I can’t imagine too many people fessing up to that one but I’m really curious as to who’s most likely to suggest it.

As you can see, I really just wanted to post this article up and get people’s reaction to it. I mean we all know that fellatio makes women feel better about themselves but this new – legit – study adds a whole new dimension to the debate. Not that I expect women everywhere to decide to run raw, especially given today’s cesspool environment and the potential STD cocktail awaiting many unsuspecting victims.

But I ask of you, VSBers, would you consider having unprotected sexxy time if you knew it would keep you from being depressed, or let’s even see, we knew scientifically that it would make you feel better? Men would you be okay with that? Or would you agree to do such a thing? Like is this one of those things where you only agree to do it so long as all the proper tests have been administered and the chick on birth control? Say she wasn’t on the BC but you KNEW it would effectively get her out of the funk she’s been in for the past two months? Ladies, would you do it? Fellas, would you be up for it?

This is a curious topic because, it’s just so odd. Good people of VSB, what say you?

-VSB P aka DR. pSCIENCE aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL HE A 3

  • B. Brown

    Ain’t. No. Way. Mess around with the wrong one and/or wrong situation and I be the one depressed for 18 years…I’ll take her to the mall or whatever first. Obviously if I’m married the answer is different, but if we’re talking non-marital action then naw. The supplies (not those kind, although fun variants of those are obviously acceptable) will have to suffice.

    • http://www.thebeautyaficionado.wordpress.com thebeautyaficionado

      You took the words RIGHT out of my mouth. Uh NO, it would seem to be MORE depressing having a baby you were not ready for, with a man you were only sexually attracted to, not even husband material. NO THANK YOU. Just like you need two forms of id, you two forms of birth control. I won’t even get started on STDs. THAT IS ALL.

    • miss.drea

      i think goin thru life with something u cant get rid of is alot more depressing i.e. herpes

    • Keisha Brown

      bbrown starts it off right!
      but to add to it.. truly mess around and end up DEAD.
      no chex is WORTH THAT. i got Paris to see someday (no Hilton).

  • Sylph

    I’ve never gone raw though I’ve always wondered what it felt like. I suppose it makes us feel happier cause there’s more sensation than anything.

    However, there would be a serious vetting of sexual history and tests before this would even be considered an option.

    • http://andsoitislive.net/wordpress KaNisa

      Right. I bet sex without protection has more to do with added sensation than actual baby batter.

      • Honey

        yeah, i hate to say it but it feels a lot better raw. for both. plus it’s more intimate i think. of course, i don’t recommend it for anyone other than people in serious, committed, trusting relationships. i’ve only done it with one person, the man i’m with now, and we do use protection because i’m not comfortable with taking the pill, but every now and then….

        i just gave a lot of info about myself.

        anyway, i wonder if this study controlled for extraneous factors like whether all the women were single or not…like what if most of the women who were going raw were in relationships or married and THAT’S why they’re happier? not that relationships or marriage equal happiness, but we all know that a lot of single women think it does. anyway, i’m a nerd panama, is this study really legit? or is it just fun to cite?

        • Keisha Brown

          co-signs with honey….

        • Mo-VSS

          We don’t use them….sigh, it started off as “this ninja just came back from Iraq and got a clean bill of health…why not” and the rationale morphed into “well, f-k…it’s already been done, why break out the condoms now.”

          I’m not saying I regret it b/c I don’t. Just saying…

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          im pretty sure this is a legit study, unlike the one that somebody posted down thread that showed up on CNN years ago about fellatio. CNN got hacked and that article showed up there. LOL. ingeniuous if you ask me.

        • http://www.twitter.com/golden_standard golden_standard

          @honey I’m not gonna leave you hanging girl. I may be about to give TMI too but I must admit I’ve “rawdogged” it a time or two myself (actuallymore than twice). *disclaimer: they were monogomous relationships, both of us had been tested & I’ve never had an STD*

          Sidenote: I have actually stayed in said relationsips longer than I should have b/c I didn’t want to go back to protected sex with a new partner because it feels sooooo much better. That being said, just because you think you’re in a monogomous relationship or even if you are married, doesn’t mean your partner or spouse isn’t sleeping around. I know plenty of ppl who were having unprotected sex b/c they thought they were in monogomous relationships or were married but in actuality they were being cheated on, in two or three instances a baby by another woman proved it. I’m not suggesting that you should have unprotected sex (Ive only done it w/ 3 partners and we were in relationships exceeding a year) but that’s a risk you take whether you are married or not. I do suggest getting tested before, during, and after. However, when you decide to have unprotected sex, married or single, there is always the possibility that you’re not the only person your partner is having unprotected sex with.

  • juicyjui

    You know what might cause depression: a big ass belly and a baby.

    I’ve heard raw feels better but it’s honestly not worth the risk.

    And I give the side eye to this study, it’s kind of pushing it to say that women who go raw are less depressed and therefore semen is the cause. Causation is kind of hard to prove with so little data.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      i’m sure that there was some actual study done here. not just asking questions. then again, aside from knowing the number of participants this doesnt really lend itself to hard quantitatave data. its psychology. but given the field of psychometrics, i’m sure there was some data somewhere behind this.

      • Psycologymajor

        As a fellow psychology major I just wanted to point out a few other stats that we learned in Uni:

        1. Women in commited, long-term monogamous realtionships are the group most at risk group for contracting HIV/AIDS

        2. Men in commited, long-term monogamous realationships are (statistically) significantly happier and more well adjusted than men who are single.

        3. Women in relationships are (statistiaclly) signigicantly more depressed than single women.

        4. When both parites have sex, depending on the stage in their relationship they both release bonding hormones that cause them to want to continue to have sex, then continue to be in a relationship with the other person. Obviously those chemicals don’t take into effect extranous factos such as: peronality, compatibility, looks, memory(drunken sex) etc.

        I also have to give a major co-sign to the comments downthread that talk about the fact that there was no independent studies where semen was injected into the test subjects to co-oberate the “fact” that semen does in fact lead to less depression.
        I also co-sign the comment pointing out that this was not a long term study.
        Amongst other very intelectual comments that basically point out the fact tha this study is steeped full of statistical and experimental inadequacies.

  • ThunderThighs

    Being an individual committed to critical thinking, I would like to know the relationship status of the women in the study. Are the women who have unprotected sex in committed relationships and have fewer fears of pregnancy, STDs and the cacophony of issues that unprotected sex may bring due to their ability to rely on the sexual status of a reliable and trustworthy partner?

    There have been many studies about the positive effects of semen in women, but there is a great deal of evidence to outweigh the positive. Nothing is scarier than grabbing the hand mirror to check if you have an ingrown hair or herpes. Pacing in front of the bathroom while the pee marinates on the pregnancy test. None of these things makes women happy.

    Get on birth control. Get tested. Get him tested. Wait 6 weeks and test him again. Wear condoms. Grab your shield.

    • http://www.iamyourpeople.com I Am Your People

      “Being an individual committed to critical thinking, I would like to know the relationship status of the women in the study.”

      I definitely think this is one of those chicken/egg situations. It’s like those studies that say people who have more sex weigh less/have lower blood pressure/lower rates of diabetes. It’s not that sex makes you healthier…it’s that healthier people are more capable of having sex.

    • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

      You took the words right out of my mouth. This whole study and post is ignorant at best. We already know what plagues our people and that’s HIV, STDs, heart disease, and unwanted pregnancies…why pump this message of raw chex even if it’s a joke? o_O

      • Mo-VSS

        I agree. I think if you polled 10 hoes and asked if they regretted having unprotected sex, you’d get an entirely different outcome than if you polled 10 engaged women or 10 women who have been in a committed relationship for 2 years or more.

        Stats can say ANYTHING!

        • La Chica Bonita

          This whole study and post is ignorant at best. <<< YEESSSS!!! Once again P, you've managed to type some really dangerous mess. Are you sure you're a 3 and not a -3?!

          There are so many reasons for both genders to protect themselves: HIV, STDs, unwanted pregnancies, etc. These types of studies really irritate the mess out of me because I feel like they were developed by a bunch of bros who were hanging around the lab one day talking about how they could articulate the benefits of busting a nut inside their SO and VOILA! A BS study was made…

          Further, I think there's this mass anti-condom culture springing up in people in their twenties/thirties and it's articles like these that encourage it. Stop it. It's not okay.

          Ladies need to learn to stand up to a man in the heat of the moment and demand that it be wrapped up. I've never had a man walk up and leave because I wanted him to wear a condom – protected sex still trumps solo chexy time. Conversely, men also need to stand up to women and halt things if no condom is present. This whole "I like it better raw" scenario that she's throwing at you is the easiest way to get caught up. Is 18 years of attachment to this chick worth it?

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            i’m typing some real dangerous mess? really? all the way to a -3. not that i dont appreciate you making me out to be a bigger deal than i am, but slow down.

            i’d be a -3 though except it doesnt sound as cool as being a 3.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        why do you have to call my post ignorant. kill joy.

        • SmartFoxGirl

          don’t worry, I’m can be ignorant too but this is over the top foolery. yes i like it raw but with someone i trust…

          i still heart that shiney bald head

  • 90sgagirl

    hmm be Depressed having Safe Sex OR Raw and potentially being depressed bc you will be on meds the rest of your life or suffer post pardum depression.?
    smh…….”Safe sex is great sex, better wear a latex ’cause you don’t want that late text, that “I think I’m late” text …-Lil’ Wayne (shouldn’t he follow his own lyrics? or he’ll be on the Aids/Eazy E path (R.I.P.)
    IGNORANCE is BLISS, I know way to many folks
    who are currently pregnant/have been pregant, or have gotten a female pregnant, by “accident” , and they “swear” they were on the pill or “pulled out”..it’s 2010, I know people get “caught up” in the moment, but SAFE SEX IS BETTER there’s new ish coming out everyday that can you leave you dead, itching oosing.
    I remember a recent VSB post about questions/things to think about before you have sex?…Will I or this person catch feelings/sprung? Will I be on meds the rest of my life?….Damn, I could be somebody’s momma/daddy and AIDS is the #1 killer of Black women (18-25), and it’s not because of the downlow/gay epidemic, but ignant ish like not using Condoms?!/–(Scene from TLC Waterfalls comes to mind the chick with all the diff partners in photo frame)

    • organiker

      Skimming through the article they address our question about relationships:

      “To determine whether being in a relationship might
      affect depression scores, respondents were subdivided into
      two groups: those who were currently in a relationship
      with a member of the opposite sex (N = 185) and those
      who were not (N = 98). The [Beck Depression Inventory] scores between females who were in a relationship (M = 10.17; SD = 8.46) and those that were not (M = 12.11; SD = 9:55) were not
      significantly different. Likewise, length of the relationship
      did not correlate with depressive symptoms. The
      only correlate of the relationship that approached significance
      was the frequency of sexual intercourse, which
      was inversely proportional to the length of the relationship.”

      • organiker

        your question*

        • organiker

          argh replied to the wrong person…oh well…ThunderThighs might see it

      • Honey

        i love you for actually looking this up organiker lol thanks :)

  • http://thecochranfirm.wordpress.com/ Dasher of The Newport Dashers

    People referencing that Intro song makes me a bit uneasy now…

    If I were into rawdoggery I would print out the article or email it to cutlery buddies, but alas I am one paranoid android when it comes to my man milk. I hate diseases. Also since I have no interest in weddings right now, I am not trying to Spackle any wombs. I may bless em with a mouth rinse or some leave in conditioner though.

    • http://lizburr.com Liz

      LOL. I’m loving your word play.

    • Jhane Sez

      “Also since I have no interest in weddings right now, I am not trying to Spackle any wombs. I may bless em with a mouth rinse or some leave in conditioner though.”

      I will never understand the relationship of my people and condoms… it’s so contradictory.

      I have posed the question of who gives a bj with latex besides a professional… and no one answers that they do or would want one.

      And when dude goes downtown… does anyone even know what a dental dam looks like.

      But a condom is a talisman.. I just don’t get it.

      To be hyper concerned about protecting yourself from unwanted pregnancy and disease is admirable and correct…

      But now we have fewer babies and more disease… now that’s depressing.

      So what is the purpose of the protected vajayjay and the unprotected bj… could this be the reason our numbers for STD’s are so high.

      Who are we protecting really… if we look at the numbers its clearly not ourselves.

      Maybe I am the wrong person to ask… I believe in committed monogamous sexy time… with or without a ring

      Knowing the persons real first AND last names might be a start… cause the real problem is f*cking the unknown.

      Does it feel good raw… yeah

      But knowing that the two of us are not just committed to our mutual pleasure but ready to ride out any consequences of our decisions… together..

      Now that is bliss ~JS

      • Tonya

        As an public health advocate… Thank you for this.

        • Tonya

          (grammer check)

          As a..

          *sigh*

      • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem of the Ocean

        *nodding head in agreement*

        so true. sad, but true.

    • kid video

      @ Dash

      “paranoid android” is def. going into my vocabulary library(see what i did there).
      Had a friend tell me because i neva had “unstrapped” sex, i’m technically a virgin…my friend is an idiot.

    • Cali

      **steals & re-purposes the phrase “spackle my womb”**

    • http://www.soulections.com saulewright

      lmao

    • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

      @Dash LMBO…that was great word usage. LOL

  • http://www.twitter.com/imhotep06 stlunatic

    *dashes with the quickness to pubmed*

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12049024?dopt=AbstractPlus

    The theory is valid and has been reviewed and approved for publication into scientific literature. We can resume discussion.

    • http://www.twitter.com/imhotep06 stlunatic

      As for my answer to the question- I have my urges and curb or fulfill them at will. They are way too strong to be altered by some silly azz study.

      The common knowledge that a recent prospect was certifiable, had stalker tendencies, and our interaction was destined to end in me handcuffed in her Southern Californian mansion waiting on Regina King to rescue me didn’t stop me from boning her. So an obscure study published in some obscure journal is supposed to keep the raincoat in the closet? Nerp. When you got that itch, reason/logic goes out the window.

    • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem of the Ocean

      lmao you are a true scientist!! i too am like, lemme see some peer reviewed article to say this is at least legit enough to ponder.

      although, not ALL peer reviewed articles contain good science *smh* but thats neither here nor there…

    • James

      As a person that has conducted credible research…this is complete crap. First of all, there is no control. The dumb college tricks having unprotected sex may be on the pill (or crack). This could account entirely or partly for the data. Absolutely no biochemical data is provided. No enzyme is cited andsynthesized and then injected into radom women to see if the effects are reproducable in separate groups. To attribute a “general feeling” on a questionaire to a biochemical response based on the fact that thse subjects engaged in reckless sexual behavior is just plain stupid. Complete junk science.

      “For females who did not use condoms, depression scores went up as the amount of time since their last sexual encounter increased.”

      Does anyone read this statement and not immediately think of the low self esteem hoes they knew on campus. Not the sluts, the real dumb ones who thought EVERY guy they slept with cared about them not matter how many times they got no call afterwards.

      “I’m less depressed after sex right up until I try to kill myself.” Some nast 2520 posted a presentation about her sex life at Duke:

      http://deadspin.com/5652280/the-full-duke-university-fuck-list-thesis-from-a-former-female-student/gallery/

      Look at the last bullet on slide #6 to understand what this study is really telling us.

  • Satya

    Interesting, but I don’t know. I tried it without a shield once and it felt great , but shortly after my mind was all over the place and I was paranoid. Sure my partner and I were in a committed relationship and we both got tested before we got betwixt the sheets, but that didn’t soothe my mind. I got tested 3months after 6mos, and then a year. Personally i’m too neurotic to be happy by my boos little swimmers. Like Thunder said women don’t enjoy most of the outcomes of unprotected chex

    • http://twitter.com/lhautevie Little Miss Sunshine

      If there wasn’t ever a better reason to be in a committed, monogamous marriage this is it…. the peace of mind. I totally agree w/ you Satya.

      • Satya

        After that experience I definitely realized that’s one of those wait for marriage things to experience. The next time I don’t use a shield I should actually be able to have peace of mind afterwards.

      • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem of the Ocean

        *nodding head* indeed. the paranoia, guilt, and overall uneasiness outside the security of marriage (for me, the ultimate commitment) is just too damaging mentally and emotionally.

  • http://www.awordorthree.com Crystal Marie

    As the holder of a psych degree (and therefore no job leads), I enjoy picking apart these kinds of stats. Of COURSE, women who have unprotected sex are more likely to not be depressed. People willing to throw all caution to the wind without concern for their health or a possible unplanned pregnancy lead happy go lucky lives. If the idea of herpes doesn’t scare you, I don’t know what life could throw at you that would make you suicidal. This interesting interpretation of the data reminds me of a great book called Freakonomics. The economists that wrote it, came to the conclusion that the legalization of abortion (and the termination of unwanted pregnancies) led to the reduction in crime when aformentioned could’ve been born babies reached prime criminal age. At first I thought it ludicrous, until data in other countries showed a trend. So, this data doesn’t make me fantasize about happy, non-depressed and unprotected sex. It just makes me want to consider contributing factors. Because, at the end of the day, the stat that most matters is, “people that have unprotected sex are more likely to have sexually transmitted diseases.” not hot!

    • http://lizburr.com Liz

      <3'd this comment!

      • Big Paws on a Puppy-King Sirevi

        @Crystal Marie, CO-SIGN :-)

        I like that you immediately went for the construct validity. It warms my heart to see another Psych degree in action(as you can deduce from my offerings, I also majored in Psychology).
        Most people just attack studies on the basis that it sounds counter-intuitive to what they know (despite that being the basis for a study, lol).

    • Keisha Brown

      @Crystal Marie
      applauds this.
      stats can kill and save lives.

      • La Chica Bonita

        I <3 you Crystal Marie!!!

        I'd also add that sex for women is just as much mental as it is physical. Knowing that we've taken all of the preventative measures available is the greatest way to clear our minds and allow us to focus on great sex for all parties involved. Education and prevention is the greatest aphrodisiac.

      • La Chica Bonita

        I <3 you Crystal Marie!!!

        I'd also add that sex for women is just as much mental as it is physical. Knowing that we've taken all the preventative measures available, allows us to clear our minds and ensure a greater sexual experience for all parties involved. Education and prevention is the best female aphrodisiac.

    • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem of the Ocean

      who pays attention to the facts behind the stats? leaps in conclusions correlations are fun! all science should be done this way ;)

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      good job, Watson. your psych major is good here at VSB. lol

  • http://lizburr.com Liz

    Unprotected sex is overrated. I really can’t tell the difference. Nor do I want to further my research to find a difference.

    • http://awordorthree.com Crystal Marie

      Don’t jump Liz! Just take his condom off! LOLOL!

    • La Chica Bonita

      I agree with you Liz! Generally, I can’t tell the difference either.

      The one time I did feel the condom though, was due to two factors: 1) My partner was not well endowed, and 2) He had an ill-fitting condom. At one point, it fell off during sex and we had to fish for it. :-(

      Gentlemen, please be real with your size and don’t go buying magnums if you really should be purchasing these:

      http://justlife4me.com/life/small-condoms-for-small-penises-really/