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Independence Day: Give Us Free!

I recently moved and have been without cable for over a week and some change now. Oh, and my new neighborhood? Well, let’s just say that I’ve got enough material so far to establish a whole new Pulitzer Prize winning journalistic career about life sociological differences on the other side of the railroad tracks. I’m talking about writing snapshots of life that would make Gordon Parks jealous. wish I was joking. I am not. Be prepared. I’ve got a slew of posts coming down the pipeline and I’ve only been here for a week.

Anyway, back to my lack of cable. Now one would think that life sans cable would leave me, somebody whose entire life revolves around pop cultures and “what’s going on”, feeling a bit empty inside. But with the advent of Facebook, Twitter, and the WiFi that I’m borrowing from somebody (this is a feat in and of itself around here…trust me), I don’t feel like I’ve missed a thing. Well that’s not completely true…I have missed Love & Hip-Hop: ATL and that has made me sad. But it’s also made me happy because, well, I’ve missed Love & Hip-Hop: ATL. This type of conundrum has to be what W.E.B. DuBois was really talking about with his whole double consciousness thing. Forget being Black making it in a white world, it’s all about that #ratchetlife. Or not. See? I’ve got a foot in and out of that world. Help me. I’m like Nicki Minaj on a David Guetta song.

I’ve lost my way.

Freedom. Wednesday (tomorrow) is July 4th and since it’s a day based upon the Freedom of this great land of ours, and more since I have lived a week without cable, I figured I’d delve into other things that I previously thought I couldn’t live without but it turns out that, well, I just may be able to do so.

Oh, it hasn’t been all roses. Not having ESPN and my NewsChannel8 in the morning has been troubling. #HiJummy

Moving on…

1. Nas

(Yeah, this list is TOTALLY not going where you thought it was. #imsoratchet)

Sure he’s one of the greatest rappers of all time, but if you never heard another Nas song again…would you notice? I don’t think so. In fact, I’ll bet that outside of backpack hip-hop heads and folks who like to argue about hip-hop, nobody talks about Nas until he releases an album, and then stops immediately after the album has hit stores. That’s me. Nas? I can live without his career at this point.

Along the same lines…

2. D’Angelo

I thought I missed D’Angelo until I realized that I’ve lived without his music for damn near 15 years. At this point, it’s okay, D. Stay away. We’re good. We’ve moved on. The only good think about D’Angelo performing at the BET Awards is that we’re either one step closer to hell actually freezing over or Detox coming out. My money is on the Grim Reaper pissing icicles over the River Styx while pilgrims get stuck in the waters that slaves waded in…down by the riverside (down by).

3. Black major distributed films

Sure we’d all like to have a movie that Black folks can go to the movies to see in unison like Think Like A Man and NOT have to cringe if you read or defend it if you don’t. But real talk, I can just sit on Netflix all day and watch movies that nobody in their right mind should see. I don’t need to see another Love Jones as long as people keep making movies like He’s Mine, Not Yours. By the way, Jason Weaver is criminally slept on. If he had won over Kevin Hart as Best Black Male actor, then I’d be okay with it.

4. Expensive arse shoes

Maybe I’m getting old (possible) or maybe I just don’t see the value in them anymore (likely). Now every time I open my closet and look at my $200 Foams I just shake my head. A lot. In fact, the shoes I get the most wear out of are my Chucks. As in my $45 shoes that function in all surroundings from white bars to Black hip-hop functions (though I acknowledge that hip-hop functions are a shoe lovers wet dream). This includes Jordan’s by the way, except the 4s. I can’t lie, if I can ever get my hands on a pair, I’ll pay $200 for them and not think twice about it.

5. All mainstream hiphop

Yeah. Easy target. But that’s that sh*t I don’t like. Which is partially a lie. I like Rick Ross when he’s making good music. He just hasn’t been doing that lately to me. Oh, and I know nobody will agree with me, but I’m possibly the onliest person alive who hasn’t been moved by anything coming from this G.O.O.D. Music Cruel Summer album. I don’t love “New God Flow” and never liked “Mercy”. Heresy? Possibly. But I miss the old Kanye.

Alright, that’s a few things that I can live without now. So…what about you? It’s the day before the 4th. Enjoy yourself.

And have a Happy 4th of July! We’re taking a break around here for the holiday so have a good time and don’t get hit by any fireworks…like I did last year. True story, I got hit in my arm and leg by a rocket and had to dive behind a car to save myself from the rocket exploding all up in my life space. It also dented my car.

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-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka MR. HAVE A HAPPY 4TH aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL HE A 3

DC: Also don’t forget to RSVP for REMINISCE this Saturday, July 7, 2012. It’s free before 11pm with an RSVP and $10 after. We’re celebrating the 1-year anniversary of Urban Cusp, the birthday of our DJ, Supa Qool DJ Quartermaine, and the 90s! Real hip-hop dog. Open bar and no dress code? Where ELSE should you be??? Party like a rock star with VSB, baby.

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Damon Young

Panama Jackson is pretty fly for a light guy. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. He believes the children are our future and is waiting to find out if he is the 2nd most interesting man in the world.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/IluminatiNYC Todd

    FIRST!!

    • nillalatte

      Cookies for Todd… oh, wait… you have had a lot of cookies, so none for you after all. lmao ;)

      • https://twitter.com/#!/IluminatiNYC Todd

        Screw you Nilla! How do you know how many cookies I’ve had? LOL

        • nillalatte

          lmao… nope, you can’t have my cookie either! :D Greedy mofo… LOL

    • Breezy

      Pssssst…first is one of those things we can live without.

      • StrawberryPoptarts

        +1

      • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

        Boomshakalaka.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/IluminatiNYC Todd

    So now that’s out of the way, I’d say sleep and decent sex. I haven’t had a lot of both in a while, and I haven’t killed anyone yet. :)

    • Meisarebel

      Which simply means you are overdue for a drive by of some kind.

      • A Woman’s Eyes

        Ricky!!!!!

    • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

      +1. SMH.

    • b sweet

      Todd, I can live without decent sex also.
      Now, good sex? Give me that.

      • MJoy

        Im going celibate for the next 6 months……. I want to cry about it.

        • whostolethesoul1

          Mkay, well try a bundle order from http://www.jimmyjane.com.

          if you need to take some “personal time”, solve writer’s block, late lunch, long layover, a lot of stress, new diet, stopped smoking etc.

        • b sweet

          I’m sorry, what?
          What is motivating this decision?

  • Meisarebel

    How do you NOT like Mercy?

    Have you yet to ketch up to their campaign? Do you not have a coup the colour of mayonnaise? Have you never been drunk and high at the same time whilst drinking champagne on an airplane? Jones.

    Anyway…

    Television. Not cable. Television. I haven’t watched television in forever. I either watch Hulu or Netflix and I get by just fine.

    A car. I live in New York. When I was in Trinidad, fine, I felt weird walking, now? Pfft. Subway for the win.

    Ipod. When mine broke a couple years back I almost cried. Now I couldn’t care less. Team android or whatever.

    Alcohol. Oh… No… Wait… I still do that.

    A computer. Considering mine has been in storage since I left DC, I’m surprised that I don’t miss it. Team android or whatever… Again.

    • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

      Mercy is the only song from Cruel Summer that I dig so far…

    • nillalatte

      “Have you never been drunk and high at the same time….. whilst drinking champagne on an airplane?”

      And you had to add the airplane part?! LOL… Um, yeah, in an airplane, of course. What da hail was I thinking? *blushes*

      • Meisarebel

        Oh fuh real Nilla? You couldn’t invite me to the mile high club?

        :-(

        • A Woman’s Eyes

          Adds to bucket list:
          Convince Nilla to get to the mile high club with Meisarebel

          • Meisarebel

            Shiiid…

            If cards are played right and Nilla has enough Bacardi in her system we can make this a party AWE. ;-)

        • nillalatte

          Baby, I know a place that’s a mile high and you don’t have to be in an airplane! ;) Besides, we need room to do what we do. I hate not being able to ride in comfort and style. So, if we just HAVE to have an airplane, we’d betta charter that sucker! A luxury liner in the sky. :D Now, AWE, add THAT to my bucket list!

          • A Woman’s Eyes

            You got it, Nilla & Meisarebel!
            ;)

    • https://twitter.com/#!/Think2Inspire Think2Inspire

      I just realized there was a television in my apartment after a few months. Haven’t turned it on and really not sure how. Prior to this I hadn’t watched television (save for Law and Order: SVU) for almost 4 years.

      The day my car passed away was the saddest day of my life. I wanted to have a funeral for my baby to properly morn. Now, fug a car! I’m not paying for insurance, gas, maintainence, surprise repairs, etc. All I need is a city with good transportation and I’m good.

      There is always a moment for alcohol.

      • PurpleView

        That car comment is the TRUTH. The day I had 2 finals and was greeted by 2 flats in the am did it for me. Give me an unlimited bus pass and a ZipCar membership anyday over that mess.

    • Perverted Alchemist

      “Television. Not cable. Television. I haven’t watched television in forever. I either watch Hulu or Netflix and I get by just fine.”

      Same here. And why did I just find out about a show on ABC from Hulu called “GCB”? (which stands for “Good Christian B*tches”, LMAO!!)

      “Ipod. When mine broke a couple years back I almost cried. Now I couldn’t care less. Team android or whatever.”

      I just got an iPod a few weeks ago, and it’s 160 GB. I have my whole entire CD collection on there (Do you know how time consuming it is to load a 2000 CD collection into iTunes?!).

      I can’t say I’ll live without an iPod, but if any other company has the same storage capacity as an Apple product, I may change my mind.

      • annette_b

        Got an Ipod for Christmas four years ago, when that whole Bono/U2 “Red” campaign was hot. It’s still in the box it came in, hasn’t been used yet…

        • LeonieUK

          I have that same red ipod, I dropped it on the pavement three weeks ago and it’s not been the same. I was given a smartphone to get over my grief, I’m still in mounring.

          • Meisarebel

            You’ll get over it soon enough. Trust.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      I just don’t like it. I’ve tried. I even especially hate Kanye’s beat changeup.

      • Meisarebel

        For shame. That beat change is the perfect build up for the ignorance that is 2 CHAINZZZZ!!!

        • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

          Agreed. I thought it was a dope transition. It didn’t change just to change, it was like a pep rally for 2 Chainzzzzzzzz.

          • http://satcpsychology.wordpress.com MsVivienne

            How many ZZZzzz should there be? You two confer on that, and get back to me. I need to know how to type it properly, lol.

            • Meisarebel

              The amount of Z’s is directly corelated to how hype you are multiplied by the decibel level of the music added to the length (in seconds) of his verse, divided by how much lyrics of said verse you know.

            • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

              I prolly put too many because I stay doing the most. Which, since 2 Chainz does the most that’s a whole lotta most-doing.

  • http://www.iamyourpeople.com I Am Your People

    I recently moved and have been without cable for over a week and some change now.

    This sentence made me weep. But real talk, the 2nd to last time I moved, my TV got misplaced for 2 weeks. I just listened to NPR. I was more edjamacated than I’ve ever been. I usually do better on vacations (I’ll do some reading), but this hotel has BET, Style Network and 5 ESPNs.

    On that note, forget cable, do you have power? I picked the wrong weekend to be in DC and this hotel is full of people from the suburbs who don’t have power. The place is full of barking azz dogs. We’re actually leaving a day early because the hotel has power, but the place where they wash the towels just lost power.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      I actually never lost power at my spot. Now some OTHER folks around me did. And I’m not completely sure that they have power back yet. My godmother came into town this past weekend. She ALSO picked a bad weekend to come into DC.

  • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

    Sorry ladies, Raphael Saadiq was always the most talented one out of that whole Neo Soul thing.

    I agree with Panama on Nas. Unless someone else talks about Nas, I NEVER have any personal urges to listen to any of his music and that’s including Illmatic. I’m still interested in what Jay puts out next. If Nas never made another record again, I doubt too many people would really mind. I mean they would reminiscence but his legacy has been what it’s been for like 10 years now and he’s not really building on it.

    If Pusha T can become mainstream, I’ll care about mainstream hip hop again. Outside of him I’m lukewarm to ambivalent on everyone else going Gold+ that isn’t Jeezy, Eminem, and maybe T.I.

    • bhillboy

      Raphael Saadiq? Seriously- Are we forgetting Maxwell for 3 straight albums?

      • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

        Saadiq is a better vocalist, writer, and instrumentalist.

        • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

          Sorry ladies, Raphael Saadiq was always the most talented one out of that whole Neo Soul thing.

          OK Saadiq trumps Maxwell but um… LAURYN HILL!? Points off for longevity, or lack thereof but come on!! She was the most talented MC on what stood for about a decade as the highest selling hip hop album… EVER(at the time)… as a woman no less. She sang ALL of the hooks on The Score, which truth be told, is a huge part of its success. She was the first woman to EVER win 5 Grammys. This, on her debut album that she wrote produced, rapped, and sang on. She was drop dead gorgeous but NEVER used overt sexuality as a selling point. I honestly used to argue that Lauryn Hill was the most musically talented person on the planet. Heads can talk about her obvious mental instability all they want but we, as in the human race, lost A LOT musically when Lauryn went off the deep end. Not sure what the hell she’s doing now but I will always… ALWAYS be checking for Ms. Hill.

          • b sweet

            +24
            I’ll volunteer on that campaign

          • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

            She’s an equal to or better song-writer, but come on you guys really need to look at those album credits. He plays EVERY instrument on all of his albums, composes everything, and does the arrangements! Not to mention he’s one of the few artists that transcends imitation and homage to older genres by making something that simultaneously familiar and new with The Way I See It and Stone Rollin’.

            • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

              As much as I love L-Boogie there is no way that I can argue against the genius of Saadiq. Top 5 most slept on in the game.

            • Perverted Alchemist

              He does now, but from 2000-2004, all of the songs produced by Raphael had the drums played by Jake and The Phatman, while Kelvin Wooten played the keyboards. All Raphael played was bass and guitar on all of those songs. He didn’t start playing all of the instruments on his albums until “The Way I See It” was released.

            • A Woman’s Eyes

              And he does all that while being sexy as hell! Raphael if you’re reading VSB, A Woman’s Eyes looooovvvveeeeeessssss you since Tony Toni Tone!

              • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

                People say I look like Raphael Saadiq. ( . _ .) Just saying.

                • JE Heartbreak

                  I’m a total Raphael stan…

                  1. Because he’s from the Bay (Oakland that is) and we do not get enough credit for the amazingess that we produce. (Sly Stone, 40,etc…)

                  2. Because that boy is a chord genius! Talent out the toes. That is all.

                • A Woman’s Eyes

                  You do hold your mouth like him. If I squint my eyes and shake my head from side to side, dead ringer! :)

          • bhillboy

            Okay I will give on the label “More talented” on Raphael over Maxwell but talent doesn’t always translate into better music. Slaughterhouse is more talented than YMCMB but they don’t make better music. I know somebody’s going to say otherwise but can you imagine going to a club where they played Slaughterhouse music all night long? That would be one boring a$$ nightclub. I can’t imagine cute girls dancing to any of that sh!t.
            PS- before you say “A club playing Slaughterhouse all night? That would be the sh!t” let me add, there’s a reason clubs don’t play Slaughterhouse all night. People don’t like them.

            • bhillboy

              In defense of the “better music” statement- My brother force fed me The Way I See it. I thought it was too retro. Like too authentically retro instead of an update of retro sound and I ain’t feel it like him so I rebelled. I’m a little brother by 12 years.

              • Perverted Alchemist

                Instant Vintage>>>> The Way I See It

                LucyPearl>>>>The Way I See It AND Stone Rollin’

                • Sigma_Since 93

                  And if you add the stuff from the 3T days it’s Mr. Wiggins (oops I mean Saddiq) hands down.

                • A Woman’s Eyes

                  I’m gonna toast tonight

                • JE Heartbreak

                  +100

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

              I agree there. Me and my boys used to argue relentlessly about D’Angelo vs Maxwell. Though that was mostly my one friend trying to argue that maxwell was a better artist than D’Angelo. eh eh.

              but yeah, talent doesn’t equate to great output. And Maxwell’s output definitely trumps Saadiq’s. now that could be because Saadiq took greater risks and since they didn’t connect with the masses, they are viewed as bigger disappointments.

              and your YMCMB vs Slaughterhouse argument is perfect. nobody gives a f*ck about Slaughterhouse on an album. mixtapes and obliterating other folks tracks. sure. but they suck at album creation.

              • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

                Agreed on Slaughterhouse. It defeats the purpose of being in a group of everyone in the group is cut from the same clothe. The styles don’t mesh. It’s just a bunch of overlapping. I’ll listen to a 10+ min freestyle from Slaughterhouse, but that’s about it. Give me that Black Hippy album.

                I prefer experimental artists, which is why I side with Raphael Saadiq. I like interesting work moreso than technical accomplishments. I take the Wachowski’s over Nolan even if they have MANY narrative bumps in their filmography because they’re fascinating while Nolan is probably able to craft a more concise and cohesive narrative.

          • thelonius

            Lauryn Hill is very talented but she wouldn’t share the credits on Miseducation, I think ?uestlove talked about that on an interview…

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

              yeah. allegedly she was competing with Wyclef on the production front to prove that she could do it alone. even though she didn’t or couldn’t. which doesnt take away from the album (which i never loved as much as everybody else), but apparently she was on her diva mess trying to outdo The Carnival or something.

            • http://twitter.com/itztrizz617 Tristan

              basically and Clef told her ok, go head and make another Miseducation “on your own” and well….you know…

            • b sweet

              @ thelonius I couldn’t reply up thread I changed my avi putting my big round titties on display. No areola just cleavage.

      • Medium Meech

        Maxwell is that dude. See him in concert. Listen to embrya. Whatever producer he shared with Sade might be my favorite producer of all time. And I’m not even sure you can put Maxwell in with the Neo-Soul crowd.

        • b sweet

          I just don’t understand Meech. Can you explain it to me? No one can explain it to me like you can

          • Medium Meech

            No explaining needed here. Listen to “gravity”. Tell me you can make through that whole song without biting your bottom lip. It’s aggressive. It’s restrained. Tell me it doesn’t have the perfect rhythm not matter how fast or slow you want to move. Listen to “submerge”. No way that isn’t the perfect first song for a caking play list

            • Beautifullyhuman

              Embrya was SO underrated! Submerge and Drowndeep: Hula are so sensual. I don’t know why people were sleeping on Embrya, but it’s up there with Urban Hang Suite.

    • b sweet

      No sorry here. I agree. Love seeing him in concert. Maxwell Im not really that into.

      • bhillboy

        Not throwing shots but how old are you b sweet? You can give me a range if you want. I had a conversation with my chick about this subject and she doesn’t get Maxwell either but she’s 31. When Maxwell came out she was in high school and Maxwell ain’t B2K if you know what I mean. He came out as a grown man singing to other adults about adult ish. Some people missed the Maxwell juggernaut. That boy was cold between 1996-2001. I don’t know what Raphael Saadiq put out during that time but if anyone can name me one song as memorable as “Whenever, wherever, whatever” or “Til the cops come knockin’ ” Name them so I can check them out on Youtube.

        • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

          “You Should Be Here”…”Rifle Love”…”I Love Her”… “I Know Shuggie Otis” and my personal favorite “Still Ray”. A completely different vibe from Maxwell but dope nonetheless.

          • bhillboy

            HOT SH!T!!!! HOT SH!T!!!!- I’ma go back and revisit the catalog. Sometimes you miss some stuff when you’re looking in a different direction but I’ma go back and add it to the collection. However; if you play Whenever wherever whatever at any cocktail lounge, a girl will let out a slight scream when it comes on. Don’t think so? Slide it on out of nowhere at your next house party.LOL

            • Sigma_Since 93

              TTT, I’m Still a Man. Hands down most slept on song he created.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            Saadiq definitely had some great music. and instant vintage is a great album (though I rearranged the sequencing accidentally since i downloeaded it first….my sequencing was better thant he album sequencing).

          • whostolethesoul1

            +1

        • b sweet

          How old do I look? ;)

          I appreciate Maxwell songs. I have about 5 of them on my chilling with my dude playlist. Im just not obsessed with him. I don’t consider myself a fan. You’ll never hear me make or contribute to an argument about how great his music is. And this woman’s work gets on my fcuking nerves.

          Make your argument about age and Maxwell appreciation and I’ll tell you what side I’m on. You don’t get that number unless we’re on a first name basis.

          • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

            And this woman’s work gets on my fcuking nerves.

            Thank you thank you thank you!! He’s got some gems but a lot of his stuff is waaaaaaaaaay the f*ck too feminine to be coming from a throat that houses an adam’s apple.

            • Beautifullyhuman

              What’s funny is his talking voice is extremely deep and gravelish…lol. His falsetto is a gift from above though. Flawless.

              Tell Usher, Justin Timberlake, and the rest of these weak a** falsettos to get on his level.

              • That Ugly kid

                “Justin Timberlake”

                Why’d you do it? Huh? Why’d you mention my homie JT?! He’s awesome. Don’t make me punch this fire extinguisher in anger!!!

                • Breezy

                  Punch it TUK. I love JT too more so for his swag (I can’t believe I just said that stoopid word) than anything else.

                  I agree with Beautifullyhuman and Jay on this one…

            • WayUPThere

              Hahaha. “This woman’s work” got him notoriety solely because of Love and Basketball, but that song is not even close to his best work. I laugh cause I discovered “This Woman’s Work” in college and thought it’d be that jam for when a special lady came by, only to discover that some of his other stuff is much better–like the very two songs that Bhill mentioned, “Whenever Wherever Whatever” and ” ‘Til the Cops Come Knockin’.”

              If you listen to Urban Hang Suite, Embrya, or Now, some of the filler tracks on any of those three albums were better than that L&B theme.

              Slept on Maxwell tracks: (that are much better than the popular TWW)
              Submerge Til We Become the Sun
              Gravity: Pushing to Pull (musical arrangement here was dope)
              Fortunate
              Im You: You are Me And We Are you (Loved the musical production there too)
              For Lovers Only
              The entire Urban Hang Suite album

              Anyone else know that Maxwell had a lot of his music on those first three albums arranged by Stuart Matthewman, one of the key pieces of Sade’s band? And I mentioned nothing from the last album, because I think the first three albums blow the last one off the planet. No contest.

          • bhillboy

            “How old do I look?” I wouldn’t touch that with a ten foot pole. A woman that won’t tell will be unsatisfied with whatever answer you give. Even if you’re right.

            • b sweet

              I expected more of you Eric. I just knew you would go there with no hesitation.

        • Beautifullyhuman

          Had to come out of lurking, but ain’t no one touchin’ “Whenever, Wherever, Whatever.” I’m cosigning you on Maxwell. Raphael is the better musician, and Tony! Toni! Tone! is classic, but Maxwell is by far the better vocalist IMO. I think Raphael has one of the best voices I’ve ever heard (I’ve seen both live), but there is something sublime about Maxwell’s falsetto. With certain notes this guy can put love in women’s hearts. It’s surreal how he can make every woman swoon in the room and forget about the dude standing next to them. It’s actually pretty mind boggling…lol.

          Both are talented in their own right, and worthy of seeing live. They do not disappoint. You’ll get every penny’s worth, including that ridiculous convenience fee.

          • legitimate_soul

            +1 for Maxwell as a better vocalist. He is awesome and I agree on his falsetto being a gift. Maxwell live is something to behold. “Stop The World” on the last album is my joint!

            • WayUPThere

              I still contend his older stuff is better.

        • Perverted Alchemist

          I don’t know what Raphael Saadiq put out during that time but if anyone can name me one song as memorable as “Whenever, wherever, whatever” or “Til the cops come knockin’ ” Name them so I can check them out on Youtube.

          *taps bhillboy on the shoulder*

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYWuAw_aCZY

          • bhillboy

            I was kind of going for Saadiq as a Soloist. Everyone knows this is classic cut material.

            • http://pervertedalchemist.blogspot.com/ Perverted Alchemist

              Okay…how about “Ask Of You” from the “Higher Learning” soundtrack? How this one rarely gets mentioned is beyond me…

        • https://twitter.com/#!/IluminatiNYC Todd

          I dunno why the shots fired at the age. I’m 32, and I was definitely feeling Maxwell. I wish he would have put out more material, but the Urban Hang Suite CD was in heavy rotation for girls coming over. :)

    • LeonieUK

      I agree +3000000000 in Queens notes

      Saddiq is the best thing, all his albums plus group additons have been classic’s. I can play Lucy Pearl and still get goose bumps. Concert delivery is worth the money, and he is never late, but will run over he allocated time (not that being stranded in Camden town or O2 Arena is a bad thing).

      Now abaout the other Neo-Soul lot
      Ms Hill has not given us anyting but dead dreams since the unplugged album. Badu is keeping faith alive on a technical front and making men into badass dream catchers (Andre 3000,Common, J Electronica, etc).
      Maxwell hawt but he lost some of his flavour when I waited till 1am for him to hit the show at EMF 3yrs ago, plus where is the follow up albums???
      Musiq after his 4 album I stopped caring and WTF track with Swizz beats I’m still confused.

      Mr TTT/Lucy Pearl/Saddiq if you funky has my vote and I’m happy.

      sidenote Pusha T might get that comerical hit have you see all the recent Mayback * British shout out in the background* hooks ups?

      • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

        You’re the best.

      • http://twitter.com/mackaroto Jay

        Can you classify Erykah Badu as neo soul??

  • bhillboy

    Kanye, Kanye, Kanye- I’m not mad at him for the swirl. Really I’m not. In fact Kim K. for all of her Armenian kind-of-whiteness is actually fine and has a big ole fat a$$. But the fact that she’s a known snicker-licker/ Laker chaser, was filmed gobbling a B-list R&B singer, is currently married, and doesn’t know how to act around black people (BET Awards anyone?) makes her an all around jumpoff. I mean a straight up late night crack. This is a dude that’s talented enough, bougie enough, hood enough, and arrogant enough to snag a nice % of the black women walking the streets of any major city and he’s cupcakin’ Reggie Bush’s/ Nick Cannon’s/ Ray J’s/ Kris Humphries’ cast off?
    Then there’s the music… once thoroughly knockin’, nostalgic, innovative, and bouncy is now over produced (MTDF) or vastly underproduced (Watch the Throne). No heavy bass knock just subdued/ muted bass notes. They shoulda neva gave you nigguhs money.

    • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

      Very nice and by nice I mean pinpoint accurate description of Ye. Bravo.

    • Perverted Alchemist

      “This is a dude that’s talented enough, bougie enough, hood enough, and arrogant enough to snag a nice % of the black women walking the streets of any major city and he’s cupcakin’ Reggie Bush’s/ Nick Cannon’s/ Ray J’s/ Kris Humphries’ cast off?”

      I thought Black women didn’t like arrogant men- at least that’s what they say…

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      I love MBDTF but thought that Watch The Throne was nowhere near as dope as folks claimed it was. I’m still baffled by folsk telling me its as good as MBDTF. cuz i cant hear and i cant see it.

      kanye’s been rapping over mostly other folks stuff nowadys. i’m starting to think he’s uninspired musically or something.

      • Meisarebel

        MBDTF was brilliant. I think the reason Throne is deemed inferior is for no other reason than it came out after Fantasy. Throne didn’t surpass nor match the production quality Fantasy. Don’t think that takes away from how good Throne was, just that it’s gonna be hard for Kanye to trump himself.

        • http://twitter.com/itztrizz617 Tristan

          That was/is my beef with the Throne…MBDTF was a great album and it got put on the shelf (no tour, 3 singles, All of the Lights/Power had epic Grammy performance potential all over them) for Ball So Hard and Otis…like really.

          • Meisarebel

            Cause Jay Z and Kanye have more star power together than Kanye alone, despite how epic Fantasy was as a complete package. It’s BS, but hey.

            I was seriously hoping All Of The Lights would’ve gotten the Grammy treatment, but when the album wasn’t even nominated for Album of The Year, I gave up on that award show.

            • whostolethesoul1

              exactly, the creative genius alone should commanded critical praise…injustice. it seemed stepped on…

      • https://twitter.com/#!/IluminatiNYC Todd

        I think the reason people might not like Watch The Throne was that Jay-Z and Kanye consciously tried to do a very East Coast album. It’s not bad, but reminded me of a lot of mid-90s backpacker music, just with more money in the production budget. I wouldn’t mind, but I could see how someone else would.

        MBDTF was a classic. Complaining about the album being overproduced is besides the point though. It was supposed to be. It’s like complaining about a Mercedes-Benz being more expensive than a Corolla.

        • bhillboy

          I see it as saying Mercedes has a button to push that makes the trunk hotter or colder. Yeah, it’s cool, but it wasn’t that necessary and added more buttons for me to push.

          • bhillboy

            Plus I think Pharrell said it best. Paraphrasing-The genius of a hot beat is the anticipation of what sound is next. It’s the space between the beat and the next beat that creates the good tension. With Kanye’s last album it was too much sound on top of sound. There was no imagination for me on what is the next drop/beat going to sound like because there was no space between sounds. If that makes sense.

    • JE Heartbreak

      + 1 MILLION!

    • whostolethesoul1

      summarized very well: too many people sum it up as hate, but it’s not, he’s going backward for attention. SMDH

  • https://twitter.com/#!/fiveisthenumber fiveisthenumber

    I can live without any peoples with an abundance of gold teefs, tattoos, and skinny jeans.

    I would like to have a moratorium on Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and Tiger Woods.

    I can live without Baseball too…

  • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

    Things I could live without.

    The NBA. I like playoff basketball and that’s about it. Seriously I can’t deal with it. The regular season feels like it goes on forever and then the post season takes like a season (as in winter, spring, summer, fall) to be over. It never goes away so I never get a chance to miss it. It doesn’t help NY is never all that good. It’s the worst officiated professional sport in America too. If I didn’t have to hear anything about it for 5 years and I would love to watch it again.

    ESPN. I watch it out of habit when there is cable around moreso than any insightful analysis on sports. Outside of Bob Ryan maybe dropping some great basketball knowledge or Dan Lebetard trolling the entire profession of sports journalism, there isn’t really much there outside of highlights in a convenient and high quality space.

    Going to the movies. I mean there are still movies I wish to support in the theaters, but when it’s $14.50 if you don’t catch it in the morning ehhh. The same snacks that I could buy elsewhere in the mall or whatever other store near buy is dramatically cheaper as well. I can go to Walgreens and get 3 things of candy and a 2 liter soda for cheaper than a large popcorn. Not to mention how rare it is to have a good audience with you.

    • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

      free me Panama!

    • WayUPThere

      “ESPN. I watch it out of habit when there is cable around moreso than any insightful analysis on sports. Outside of Bob Ryan maybe dropping some great basketball knowledge or Dan Lebetard trolling the entire profession of sports journalism, there isn’t really much there outside of highlights in a convenient and high quality space.”

      LeBatard does that all too well…all too well. He’s not like most of the other talking heads. He tends to be insightful or just crazy enough to say something that doesn’t cross the line but makes you think about some angle that you had no idea was viable.

  • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

    Thinking about the possibilities of freedom that come with rocking short hair. May cut it again. I can live without my hair. Tired of the fussing.

    • https://twitter.com/#!/Think2Inspire Think2Inspire

      Man, I stay scissor happy. I usually do some kind of drastic hair cut once a year but this time shaved all my hair off and feel great. At first I was nervous but when I woke up and didn’t have to do shit, ya girl was beamin’ Freedom indeed.

    • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

      I’ve been feeling the same way. I used to love to do my hair. Now I contemplate shaving it everyday.

  • That Ugly kid

    As a Kanye stan, I will be buying Cruel Summer despite me hating everyone on his roster except for him and Big Sean. Now, moving on.

    1. Angelina Jolie – She was in her prime during the Tomb Raider/Mr & Mrs. Smith days. Now? Pass.

    2. Biggie – Some say he’s a legend. I say he’s extremely overrated. I only like about 3 of his songs though, and Childish Gambino recently did a sort of remix to one of them which was much better than the original. So, there’s that.

    3. Just like women complain and get frustrated when a man claims he has a big peen, but doesn’t, it’s EXTREMELY frustrating to men when those same women finally get a dude who’s holding, but spend the entire time during sex with her hand on his thigh/stomach pushing away and keeping him from going all the way in because “it hurts”. The f*ck you complaining for then?! You know you can’t handle it so why whine about it? I can definitely live without women doing this.

    • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

      @ my crater inducer,

      Watchu tryna do?! Put her in a coma?! Uh uh!!

      • That Ugly kid

        Lol nah I’m not trying to injure anyone. But I figure if you’re going to complain about it, then you must be able to take it. If not, then stop b!tching about it. #YouAintBoutThatLife

        Constantly pushing me away interupts my stroke. It gets annoying going through this the whole night. Every time I get in the zone and I’m about to go ham, there goes that hand, impeding my vaginal assault.

        • b sweet

          Ummm, yea. Vagina and assault in the same sentence??
          #cervixisnotabullseye

          • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

            The folly of youth…

          • That Ugly kid

            Lol, I’m not aiming for the cervix because repeatedly smashing into it hurts men as well after a certain point. I’ll pass on that. But don’t let the “assault” part frighten you. It’s a “good” assault so to speak. Like a friendly mugging.

            • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

              repeatedly smashing into it hurts men as well after a certain point.

              What REALLY hurts is when a girl can take it, is into it, and gets to that point where she sorta doesn’t have control over what she’s doing and she’s grabbing you and grinding her cervix on the tip. That. Sh*t. Hurts!! But you don’t want to ruin her O so you let her have her moment.

            • b sweet

              How big are you TUK? Inches and diameter

              • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

                LMAO… just like that huh?

                • b sweet

                  Just like that. And you got two more sentences on the subject Jay before I hit you with the same inquiry.

                  • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

                    LOL and now we’re resorting to threats. Yall are really on one tonight.

                • That Ugly kid

                  Lol, right?! Just straight foward.

                  • b sweet

                    Y’all are the kings of pics or it didn’t happen. I’ve spoken about how big my assets are and put my avi where my mouth is. At least I didn’t ask for a pic lol

                    • That Ugly kid

                      I wouldn’t put a pic up anyway. I’m inexperienced with taking peen pics. I’ve only taken 1 my entire life.

                    • thelonius

                      hi b sweet, when did you show your assets

              • Beautifullyhuman

                Really. Inquiring minds want to know. Can we appraise it?

                • That Ugly kid

                  Lol, even if I knew the dimensions of my peen, I wouldn’t disclose that info. You want to know, come find me. Or give me info so I can find you. Seeing is believing and whatnot.

                  • Beautifullyhuman

                    Damn, can’t blame a girl for trying…lol.

                    Good lookin’ B-Sweet.

                    • b sweet

                      ;)

              • That Ugly kid

                I honestly can’t tell you. I don’t measure myself. All I can say is that I hit cervix and still have change left over. Don’t know how wide I am either.

                • Beautifullyhuman

                  We take guesstimates…lol

                  • That Ugly kid

                    Lol, nah son. It don’t go down like that.

                    • http://afrikanmami.blogspot.com African Mami

                      Eeeey, so you are packing like a Mandigo warrior?! I’ll be your Mandika princess! Where’s the crater inducing sign up sheet?!

                • Namia

                  If she is a small gal it hurts more, i think the cervix is nearer, you gotta try different positions where you are all in but she is still having fun too..

              • naturalista88

                *Lol* you are slowly becoming my role model.

      • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

        Don’t talk about lives you don’t live. You can pass if you know you can’t handle it. Yall stuff comes in different sizes too and can’t accommodate everything while still being pleasurable for you.

    • bhillboy

      Damn! You don’t like Pusha?
      Jolie. I second that emotion.
      Ready to Die= Classic hood sh!t. The second album- Ehhhhh.
      Some women ain’t ready for all that. You’re gonna have to learn how to take it easy on them and let them work their way into being able to handle the meat. You might just have to do a little more “love making” and less sexing.
      That is all TUK.

      • That Ugly kid

        “Damn! You don’t like Pusha?”

        Hell no, I don’t like Pusha! He’s weak lyrically (so weak that one of my boys mistaked him for 2Chainz when he heard him rap) and he’s an idiot. How you talking smack about someone when you’re 30+ years old still rocking 80s braids? I only like one verse from him. And it wasn’t even a full verse. It was the half-verse on the I Don’t Like remix. And the ONLY reason I liked it is because of the Ric Flair shoutout.

        “You’re gonna have to learn how to take it easy on them and let them work their way into being able to handle the meat.”

        But that’s the thing. If they’re complaining about it, I take it they’ve already had that training. If they haven’t started classes yet then they should keep their mouths shut. Can’t a n!gga go Pink Spelunking without any setbacks? Is that too much to ask?

        • bhillboy

          I’m assuming you haven’t listened to the Clipse’s catalog. Assuming…but as far as women are concerned, the act is supposed to be pleasurable for both parties concerned. Maybe she’s complaining b/c she kept hearing stories of all this and that but never really had it to even know what the real deal is. So when they get it you they can’t handle it so you have to slowly condition them to it. It can be done but carefully. You will be able to go HAM one day but starting off you got to remind her it’s the real deal but you ain’t out to hurt her with it. Man…if you take care with it, she’ll be on your sack when she gets up to speed. Just speaking from experience….but then again, I’ve met some chicks that just weren’t built for this ride no matter how long I worked with them. Having too big a wang is almost as bad as having too small a wang. You can get the side eye for having either one.

          • nillalatte

            Ain’t gonna add details to this convo, even doe I could go in deep with explanations and techniques… all I’m gonna offer is Kama Sutra. Study TUK. Create da pleasure. :D

            • A Woman’s Eyes

              TUK did you eat the peach until she orgasmed before you entered her? For some women that helps her body to accomodate his girth.

              • Kema

                *message*

                • nillalatte

                  Straight up Kema! Those full body massages will relax you and definitely put you in the mood to be … ehem… touched!

          • That Ugly kid

            No, I’ve listened to Clipse. Lord Willin’, Hell Hath No Fury, and most of Til The Casket Drops. Clipse as a GROUP, was pretty good. I still bump “Gridin’” and “What Happened To That Boy” (especially for the bird call part, lol). But Pusha T as a solo artist is weak overall. He just don’t go it.

            And the thing about women is, I don’t mind working with them. I’ll gladly do it. But if you’re one of those chicks who keep talking about wanting a big one, and taking sh!t about the men who don’t have one, then for all the smack you talking you better be able to handle it when you do get one. That’s all I’m saying.

            • bhillboy

              Got that.

        • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

          Pusha T is hit or miss. When he’s on he’s on though. He went IN on So Appalled.

          • Meisarebel

            Agreed. Though man of the song was CyHi.

    • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

      Re: #3…

      Its always a revealing peek into the hypocrisy of women in that moment when you both get naked and she looks at you all nervous and says “It’s kinda big.” And you get a quick ego boost until you look at her face and realize that she’s not saying this out of joyous anticipation… she’s nervous and having second thoughts. Then you have to paradoxically try to convince her that its not actually THAT big. The f*ck part of the game is that?!? #shotsfired

      • nillalatte

        Ummm… okay, because I’m in rare form tonight, drinking my bacardi, sleep deprived for 2 days, and happy other things (yeah, you can guess, but I’m not telling)… I’m gonna lay it down for ya… sort of… LOL… It’s all in the foreplay for you guys that are extremely endowed. Make those waters flow… slow it down… build up the anticipation. It really ain’t about what you packing as much as it is knowing how to find that spot and working it. I should be getting paid to share what I know. LOL JK

        • That Ugly kid

          Lol, but a lot of times it goes deeper (no pun intended) than just foreplay. The chick could be Hurricane Katrina down there and she STILL can’t handle it. It’s not just my size, but her inability to just flat out not handle it. And I’d appreciate it if she didn’t falsely advertise that she could.

          • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

            It’s not just my size, but her inability to just flat out not handle it.

            Word. It’s not me, its her. Nilla said “extremely endowed”… lol extremely is a strong word. I’m not going to claim EXTREME… but I’m definitely above average. This just displays the hypocrisy even more. A lot of girls act like they’re are looking for that dude with the EXTREME package. Shenanigans I say.

            • nillalatte

              Okay, my question… and this may bring down the VSB site or the internet altogether… how the hail to men know they are endowed or extremely endowed? Do you guys line up in gym class or something and take measurements? Do you measure by jock cups? What? Inquiring minds. LMAO…

              • That Ugly kid

                Lol, no. Can’t speak for other men, but I go off based on what women say. Female friends of mine usually say a certain length is pretty big but not TOO big. They’ll say a guy who’s such and such inches is their “limit” because he’s TOO big. The women I converse usually agree on what’s big and what’s too big. So if I fall in their “big” category, I know I’m endowed but not extremely endowed. If I fall into their”too big” category, same thing.

                Lol, I haven’t measured myself since I was a sophomore in high school. I couldn’t imagine dudes standing side by side, peens on hard like some sort of weird Vein Train, passing the “Ruler of Truth” around.

                • https://twitter.com/#!/mackaroto Jay

                  Who wants to touch THAT ruler. The “community ruler”. F*ck that ruler. Kill it. Kill it with fire.

                  • Iceprincess

                    Omg im in moderation cuz i spelled pr0n the real way smmfh

                    • nillalatte

                      GURL.. step on in here!!! please… my sides are hurting I’m laughing so damn hard!!!

                • nillalatte

                  “Female friends of mine usually say a certain length is pretty big but not TOO big.”

                  Oh, so we going on visual estimates here, right? LMAO… OMG… I’m dying here!!!! I can just imagine a vaginal measuring instrument… “no, honey, you are too big. Um, honey you are just under by a 1/2 inch to reaching my G spot. Oh, but YOU are right on the mark. Okay, pleasure me!” LMAO~~~

                  • That Ugly kid

                    Not visual. They’ll say something like, “10-11 inches is too big. 7 is decent and 8-9 inches is the perfect size.” So, based on what category I think I fit in at, that’s how I determine whether or not I’m extremely endowed or just, endowed.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                you just base it on what women tell you. the first time a chick tells you something like, “why didn’t you tell me you had a big wang/peen/euphemism for the johnson” you get the idea. then for some reason, after that its like a domino effect, every woman after that makes mention, etc. lol

              • A Woman’s Eyes

                Men won’t admit this. They compare themselves to other men whose peen they have seen (in porn or gym class in school days).

                Women, we look at our wrist width, our arm and his peenis. The further up your arm, the more in trouble you may just be in lmao.

                • A Woman’s Eyes

                  FREEEEEEEEE me please!

                  • Meisarebel

                    Call Mami. Usually works.

            • Iceprincess

              Truth.com! I had to find out the hard way. Pause. Lol. I had never met a peen in all my life that i couldnt handle with ease. Until about a year ago. This thing was 12 INCHES. No lie. One of those big ol porn d*cks, only bigger! I hate to admit, it was too much for me. Had me runnin all ova the bed lol. And im far from a punk when it comes to takin D. So yea, theres my 2 cents.

              • Meisarebel

                And boom goes the dynamite.

          • nillalatte

            TUK… real talk… Eric aka bhillboy already gave you the recipe in his post of 1:25a. Conditioning honey. It’s all about conditioning. She might run her mouth… hell I run my mouth, but that doesn’t mean a woman doesn’t appreciate a man that will be tender when he needs to be and in action in other times. And, just as Malik refers to… vajayjay’s do have different sizes just as peens. Fitting the size is important in the pleasure process. Again, Kama Sutra. Lot’s of interesting and on-point info.

            • That Ugly kid

              You’re not getting my point. I don’t mind conditioning. At all. I’ve done it with quite a few girls. My thing is, if you’re CONSTANTLY talking sh!t, I assume you must already be conditioned. Either that or are more knowledgeable on the techniques needed to keep you from getting hurt. Usually, the sh!t talkers are neither, which irks the f*ck out of me.

              • nillalatte

                TUK talking shyt is just that… shyt. Yeah, yeah, I know… it’s like don’t let your mouth overload your ability, but it’s a part of the flirt process to show interest in YOU! To let YOU know that there is a desire to take whatever to the next level. That doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t be a tender and caring lover. Here’s the technique for a woman to keep from getting hurt, when she says ‘stop.’ It’s your job to listen and stop. It’s not rocket science honey. Be easy. Not every woman has an iron p*ssy. Usually only those that are ‘conditioned’ and have had a lot of dyck and regularly homey. You’d be surprised how a woman will respond if you are a tender lover escalating to the ‘just a fcuk:’ later.

                • That Ugly kid

                  “when she says ‘stop.’ It’s your job to listen and stop.”

                  But…I do. As I said in my opening post. It messes up my stroke, because putting that hand up there is a signal for me to stop. Which I do.

                  Never said I don’t like being gentle. Never said I don’t know how to be gentle. I don’t expect every woman to have an iron vagina. Everything you’re telling me, I already know. Not trying to sound cocky, but everything you’re telling me I’ve either heard from my father or my uncles. I know about the techniques.

                  As I said, here’s my one and only point. Women get mad when men aren’t as big as they say they are. I get mad when women can’t handle as much as they say they can. That’s it. If women are allowed to be frustrated about their situation, can’t I be frustrated about mine? If you say you can handle it, you better be able to. I don’t mind stopping a few times or being gentle so you can “adjust” to my size. But stopping every 15 seconds the whole night?! Nah, son.

                  • nillalatte

                    “I get mad when women can’t handle as much as they say they can.”
                    Okay, I get it. But, how does a woman know you’re bigger than they can handle UNTIL you’re actually in the act. They can’t. It’s discovery.

                    “If women are allowed to be frustrated about their situation, can’t I be frustrated about mine?”
                    Absolutely.

                    • That Ugly kid

                      “But, how does a woman know you’re bigger than they can handle UNTIL you’re actually in the act. ”

                      They don’t. But in most cases I’m not bigger than they can handle. I’m right in the range of peens they said they wanted, if only SLIGHTLY bigger.

                • bhillboy

                  I don;t think he;s talking about the act. He’s talking about all the sh!t talking they do. Fact is, if a woman NEEDS a huge thang she has been beaten and destroyed with the most crude of instruments. She no longer can feel anything less than a baseball bat sized tool/ Not the recipe I’d go for.

                  • nillalatte

                    Agreed. Shyt talking is just shyt talking. You never really know what you get until you open the wrapper. Rule of thumb for me is if a guy is talking shyt he’s probably not that endowed or good in bed. But, that’s not a 100% indicator. If he’s quite about his ability, he’ll probably knock it out the box 100% of the time. I guess the same could be applied to women in this case. Don’t know since I’ve never been with a woman. ;)

                  • That Ugly kid

                    Me either. I like em tight. But if I run Jarjarkeisha who says she can handle it then by golly….

            • bhillboy

              Damn- you shouted out my government name.

              • nillalatte

                Sorry G. I just remembered that as your original moniker. My bad.

        • A Woman’s Eyes

          Thank you so much Nilla. Yes!

      • http://memoirsofunique.blogspot.com Nyangi

        Jay, I don’t think it’s hypocrisy. That nervous look is for real and you’d be concerned of you something that has 90% chance of hurting you. I’ve been a victim of the ‘extremely’ endowed peen. NEVER. AGAIN. I promised myself I’d walk away even if both are naked. Dude tore me! Big is overrated! So its all the hype that misleads most women that big is better. Average be winning. You also don’t want a pinkie finger. Just saying.

        • bhillboy

          I don’t think I have a giant peen but I’ve torn women a time or two. Actually did something for my ego. ” I’m a SNACHTEARER” They gotta heal. They gotta heal.

          • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

            ouch.

        • Beautifullyhuman

          You know, I’m not a size queen either. There’s nothing wrong with an average brother with a nice girth. I guess I’m simple. I’ve heard stories about women takin D that had the girth of coke cans. :-|

          I’m so good. As long as his pen*s is pretty (not of fan of mishapen D) and he knows what to do with it…we’ll be alright.

          • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

            Eh? I’ve gotten my fair share of compliments with the curve.

            • Beautifullyhuman

              Cuz you’re hittin’ that bottom, Malik. ;-)

              • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

                I do what I can with what I’ve been given.

            • That Ugly kid

              I have as well.

              • bhillboy

                The look on their face when you hit the bottom is priceless. PRICELESS I SAY! That kind of surprised/ exhilaration/ slight discomfort is soooo funny. When you hit that bottom they understand that sh!t just got real around this mf’er.

    • A Woman’s Eyes

      #3 kilt me.

    • http://www.becauseimwrite.com Muze

      i’m really cracking up that this thread is like a million replies long. VSBers stay bragging on your wangs. lol.

      that’s why you (women and men) should just not talk spit either way. under promise, over deliver. hahaha.

      • That Ugly kid

        Nah men gotta hype our sh!t up. It piques curiosity. You don’t see Lexus talking sh!t about their new cars in the hopes that people will take that as a sign that the car is outstanding but Lexus is just being modest about it.

        Women don’t have to hype their privates up because men fiend for the Vag regardless. But I talk a good game because I one of the few who can play a great one.

        • http://www.shesoflyy.wordpress.com Muze

          just want to say thank you for saying pique and not peek or peak like some other educated folks did in a conversation i had this week.

          so umm… how tall are you? lol. i’ve been given the mission to find a “tall, brown man who loves his mama but is not a mama’s boy, has a 401k, no baby mama drama, wears a suit well and has three legs” for a friend. lmao. and i don’t mean the fake “me” friend, it’s for the real friend that actually said that. lol. she’s awesome though, she really is. hahaha.

    • https://twitter.com/#!/IluminatiNYC Todd

      With #3, the best way is to either ALWAYS start with girl on top or choke up on the bat a bit to get her used to it. It seems to work for me.

    • Medium Meech

      Yeah, co-sign what everybody else who commented on this thread to let it be known that they can relate to BDPs said. And um, I hate when chicks be like “I bet the gravitational force of your member wont compress the entirety of my molecular makeup to the size of a single quark”. But afterwards they don’t say nothing because you know, the gravitational force of my Johnson compressed the entirety of her molecular makeup to the size of a single quark.

      -Magnum Meech

      • Breezy

        Hey Meechie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!