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In The Woke Olympics, Nobody Wins Gold

I’ve decided I want to bow out. It was fun while it lasted.  However, after careful review, I’ve concluded that The Woke Olympics just isn’t for me. I can’t compete. These carefully constructed tweets have me sweating at my desk on the regular, and baby, I’m tired. One slip of the finger, one well intentioned tweet gone bad, and just like that, the Woke community has turned their backs on you, and there you are, all alone-Un-woke.

You can kiss your Twitter mentions goodbye. You can wave goodbye to your Facebook and Instagram feed, too. It’s over for ya, pleighboi. 

In a time where Black death is state sanctioned, and we’re forced to relive our collective trauma via YouTube on a daily basis, I understand the importance of being “woke.”  What I can’t really explain though, is the need to outdo each other when it comes to social justice issues and Black consciousness.

Let’s look to social media for example, the Woke Olympics hub. Here, we can find people of all backgrounds, using their platforms to “spread knowledge.” And while a lot of the time, they are in fact doing that, much of the time, they are using their platforms to humiliate and shame the un-woke, as opposed to enlightening them. Some have seemingly made a career out of taking good natured statements or jokes and turning them into debates, sending out a series of tweets consisting of nice nasty pet names like “sis,” and “sweetheart.” When that’s not enough, some of them just simply spread false information to their followers-let’s not forget the young brother who insisted menstrual cycles were a result of European doctrine. He also contends that white people are from Mars. See below.

And just like that, after Jesse Williams, a well-known actor and activist who consistently uses his platform to speak out against social injustice, tweeted that people should go see “The Birth of a Nation,” he lost favor among the Woke. Nate Parker, producer and star of the film, was accused of rape in 1999 and went to trial. Parker was acquitted, but the resurfacing of the case, court documents, and his publicist’s-worst-nightmare addressing of questions surrounding the case led to a boycott of the film.

Following his tweet, a full fledge Twitter “Get Jesse Outta Here” campaign was launched  and I’m still not sure he knows exactly what hit him.

Sure, some things are non-negotiable. I can think of a number of things that I simply won’t tolerate-racism, bigotry, sexism, misogyny, rape culture, willful ignorance, and shuckin’ and jivin’ to name a few. But we have to be able to separate ourselves from certain issues and have productive conversations that empower, elevate and enlighten. Otherwise, our Twitter wars are counterproductive. Great entertainment, but counterproductive, nonetheless.

We’ve become a population that engages in incessant policing, who are demanding perfection-holier than thou brats with keyboards. There is really no good reason why the Planking  phenomenon triggered an onslaught of thinkpieces linking it to slavery. No good reason, at all.

Yes, I want to stay woke. I want the same for my family and friends. Educate yourselves. Do research. Be heard. I want us to call people out on their racist behavior, and make it clear that we won’t stand for it, not for another damn day. But what I’m not willing to do is participate in meaningless, mob mentality, faux Black consciousness debates via Twitter, or anywhere else.

I don’t want the Gold medal.  I want the liberation.

Karma Jonez

Karma Jonez is a 29 year old Howard graduate, born and raised in Petersburg, Virginia. She is now making somewhat of a living in Atlanta, GA, where she relocated 3 years ago. She is a Public Relations Specialist who drinks too much wine, and watches more Love & Hip Hop than she'd like to admit. She has her own blog and weekly podcast where she says a lot of funny things and talks to super cool people. Her work has been featured on sites like XoJane, Blavity, For Harriet, WETV, BlogHer and more.

  • Brown Rose

    Twitter can be problematic. Its essentially anonymous and does not require an effort to be angry and to “call people out. You can vent and still go back to your life and you can con yourself that you fought the good fight.

    • HouseOfBonnets

      All of this!

  • HouseOfBonnets

    Until people can stop getting thier woke information from meme creator post(I’m still judging/running into this on a daily and the outer hotep limits of the Internet we can only dream of this future beloved. Also I’ll say it again I’m as woke, black, feminist, and LGBT ally as they get but posting a hashtag and sharing memes doesn’t make you woke if you’re not even willing to put it the work.

    Shout out to Westbrook
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0e17dac57e69bf47926d26d2ec7f1c458fbcebe182a5a3c56349251edbcc528.jpg

    • Didnt some guy give him the finger before this photo?

      • HouseOfBonnets

        yup

  • panamajackson

    Atlanta, people, I will be in Atlanta this weekend. For Spelhouse Homecoming. This is a very exciting time. But there’s a caveat. Some of my friends are getting old so I’m usually the late night owl trying to force the late night missions and end up dolo hanging with vagabonds and heathens on the Westside.

    Any good spots, lounges, jumpin’ sports bars, etc worthy of checking out? I don’t need to be in the club, plus I’ve done that, but I don’ what dat ATL do. Run the jewels, folks.

    • miss t-lee

      As I read this “We In Da City” just shuffled on my Spotify…lol

      • HouseOfBonnets

        Obligatory CAR AIN’T GPT NO ROOOF!!!

        • miss t-lee

          WE IN DA CITY!!! AYE!

        • Lea Thrace

          Ho WHERE YO HO AT?!

    • Other_guy13

      You would choose THIS weekend…smh…as you may know…stay away from Atlantic station and stay close to…wait…you gone be at homecoming…you don’t really need suggestions. FOLLOW THE CROWD!!!!

      • panamajackson

        I’m talking about the non-crowd folks. I’m 37. The homecoming crowd will be up in somebodys warehouse throwing up saying “I’m SO LIT” all night.

        • Other_guy13

          Other than places like Painted Pin, Ponce City Market and random Hookah spots Idk. I usually hit up Krog street or Edgewood (I know I know…but your never too old for Edgewood). Ormsby’s is cool too but young crowd sometimes. Most of my friends married with kids…so a kickback at the house is usually the move. Hope that helps a little

        • Other_guy13

          Oh…Eleven 45 is the old Frank Ski’s so there’s that too…never been so I would check on that one…I never liked Frank Ski

    • For a laid back feeling try Trilogy Cigar Lounge it’s connected yo SUITES Lounge. Good food and atmosphere. #FAMUOwned

      • Other_guy13

        Trilogy looks dope…I usually go to Cigar Bar in Lithonia #SSUOwned.

        • Lea Thrace

          SSU owned for real? Now I have even more incentive to go there!

          CPORT STAND UP!

          • Other_guy13

            I think…FB by lying sometimes but yea one of the guys that did alot of party promotions in sav and also went to SSU started it believe. I know all of SSU Atlanta hangs out there in support of him. It’s a dope spot…I just hate it’s in Lithonia.

            • **Looked over at the grass in Fulton County to see if theirs is greener, but a snob built a higher fence**

            • Lea Thrace

              Yeah. I only go to Lithonia once a quarter at the most. I keep myself firmly to the North and Northwestern burbs.

              Im def gonna have to check it out. If only just to see how people I can find that were students of my dad. My guess is somewhere around the 85% mark.

              • Other_guy13

                LOL….it’s possible

          • “CPORT STAND UP!”

            places metal detector at door.

      • panamajackson

        Thank you for the suggestion.

    • Cersei

      Eleven45 is basically a club (they even charge a cover, and you may have to give up a body part to park).
      My suggestions:
      Cafe 290
      Katz Cafe (kinda small so it gets crowded; but I’ve lurked for long enough to know you’re a music fan and they have some good local acts perform there)
      Suite Lounge has comedy nights on Fridays and Taboo 2 has comedy nights on Saturday nights. If you’re interested I can forward you the links for comp entry
      Trilogy Cigar is also a good option (for someone your age, er, experience)
      Not a lounge, but i like Top Golf (prepare to wait a while at the Midtown location)
      There are a ton of other options (it’s ATL!) but I’m tired of typing.

  • miss t-lee

    I’m over “woke” folks.
    I’m over thinkpieces.
    I’m over armchair gynecologists trying to tell me about my menstrual cycle
    I’m over has-been rappers telling Black women that we’re being “replaced”.
    Fin.

    • I fukx witchu. ?

      • miss t-lee

        *daps*

    • Courtney Wheeler
    • HouseOfBonnets

      I’m still not over menstrual cycles are a white mans disease,still.

      • miss t-lee

        Armchair gynecologists don’t know no better girl…

        • Funny how Wotep dudes and conservative white guys all are keeping tabs on your…wait for it…unsecured uterus. What an interesting thing the two groups have in common.

          • miss t-lee

            LOL
            I can’t remember if I ever sent you that Attack of the 50 Foot Uterus article?

          • Gibbous

            The patriarchy is real!

          • lkeke35

            I like that term “unsecured uterus”! ?

            I guess I’m a lost cause then. I’m a female without a uterus. They can’t tell me what to do!

      • cyanic

        White folks from a bygone era assumed women were evil and witches because of it.

      • Courtney Wheeler

        Ho-teps need to go back to Egypt..Brownsville…community college..wherever they came from.

        Oh and men that tell black women we’re being “replaced”? You were going to do it anyway. So stop talking..just do…

        • HouseOfBonnets

          we really don’t need an announcement nor do we care tbh…..

        • Brandon Allen

          Don’t treat community college like that…

          • Courtney Wheeler

            NO disrespect to community colleges at all…

          • Question

            Or Brownsville…

        • cakes_and_pies

          ‘Replaced” as in those White and Spanish women are flocking to the likes of him en masse. What White or Spanish woman wants him?

          • Mary Burrell

            Like women are beating his door down to get to him. He’s a clown.

            • lkeke35

              Yeah, I don’t know. Some of the white women I’ve seen these brothers with look like white men’s leftovers, and I just know the only reason they with her is because, she’s all that would have him, and she can’t get a white boy.

        • Betty’s Babygirl

          Usually they’re the ones Resilient women aren’t checkin’ for anyway. Case in point the ignant who made the rant. He’s salvageable. Once he’s been reprogrammed to not exclude Resilient women the original woman for a reproduction..

        • cryssi

          I think they come from those online “colleges” that yell at you in commercials to get your life and sign up for their classes.

        • Blueberry01

          Lol@Brownsville!

        • lkeke35

          As far as I can tell these are the kind of people who have never had any practice at discernment or critical thinking, but think they know how to do research, just picking up any ol’ piece of information they run across and throwing it in the ring.

          Remember that ex-con character played by Damon Wayans on In Living Color. Like that guy.

          That sh*t is extremely annoying to those who have been practicing critical thinking their whole life.

      • brothaskeeper

        I’m no gynecologist, but……..Dat don’t sound right.

        • lkeke35

          Nicely understated!???

      • LMNOP

        Drugs?

      • Mary Burrell

        They learned it from Dr. Sebi

      • pandemonium

        This is something they claim? Wow!

    • Brown Rose

      I am with you but I am tired of dudes like Trick Daddy, ugly Japanese scientist like Kanazawaa, and a host of other jerks, that love to tell Black women how ugly and obsolete they are. You can’ even go by a year without something like that being reported on every type of media.

      • Courtney Wheeler

        Trick Daddy is a flakka-hit away from being brain dead.

        • Brown Rose

          True. Dude looks pretty damned rusted out–still there are other guys black and non-black, singing that song right along with him.

      • HouseOfBonnets

        I mean he not properly caring for his lupus diagnosis and he’s headlining love and hip hop Miami. So besides the nostalgia for slip and slide productions was he really in high regard?

        • Brown Rose

          Its an accumulation. Its a pattern that did not start or stop with him. He’s just the latest in a long line.

        • Courtney Wheeler

          He has Lupus? ohhhhh didn’t know that.

          • miss t-lee

            Yup.

        • I wouldn’t be surprised if this was done to hype their season because on any other show the backlash would’ve had him kicked out

      • miss t-lee

        Exactly.
        No one else deals with this type of bullsh*t.

        • Brown Rose

          This is what I mean. No race of women receives this kind of public abuse. I have never seen this with white, Asian or Hispanic women. Black women–free for all.

          • miss t-lee

            Bingo.

          • Courtney Wheeler

            Eh..i think Asian women get it kinda bad as well..like we’re both fetishzied for dumb and outdated reasons. But asian women stereotypes are that they’re subservient and quiet and black women are just big butt loud mouths.

            • Brown Rose

              Will have to disagree. Being subservient and quiet is quite different then being considered mannish (ask Michelle Obama), ugly, welfare queen who is loud and ghetto. The ugliness and deformity of black women goes back to at least Hotentot Venus. There are actual racist literature that discuss how ugly Black women are with the most recent iteration froma Japanese Scientist as late as 2011.

              • RagesAgainstMachines

                Ugh and why do we always ALWAYS have to veer off into other cultures having it worse?Like can we just talk about black women and stay there sometimes?

                Sorry, I’m frustrated.

                • -h.h.h.-

                  because the world is bigge….

                  you know what, never mind

                  • RagesAgainstMachines

                    I may be taking what you’re implying the wrong way, but those other cultures we’re always asked to consider ALSO look down on black women.

                    • Scorpiogoddess??

                      Preach

                • Brown Rose

                  Thank you. That’s is what I say. Our situation is different.

                • Girl.. yes! Because Idgaf about them. AT ALL.

                  • Scorpiogoddess??

                    Lmaooooo!!!!! Bye!!!!

                • Blueberry01

                  That’s true and I think that’s part of the problem. No one wants to be empathetic, but instead they’d rather play the Oppression Olympics with us.

              • kingpinenut

                Meanwhile white women wearing dress that make them look like they got some kind of a$$.

                Hate Ms Venus but still want to be her.

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              Asian women get it pretty damn bad but it’s not in a manner you’ll see in America or in English.

              If you ever get to stream stuff from their native countries…the sexism they deal with can be pretty horrific at times

              • Courtney Wheeler

                I know. I’ve been told numerous times by my Asian girlfriends that the standard of beauty in their countries is beyond warped. Ultra white skin..super waif…even the shape of your eyes is criticized.

                Beauty stereotypes it’s general is just warped.

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  This is why I say, even though we as Black people have it horrendously, we can’t just say other races don’t, because they usually keep their hate insulated.

                  It’s been mandatory in certain portions of China & South Korea for instance, that if a woman isn’t super attractive but needs to be married off, she needs to go have plastic surgery to look the part.

                  • esa

                    yea you just reminded me of the period where China enforced a one child only policy, and baby girls were killed and abandoned en masse. my friend’s father was threatened he would be disowned for keeping his daughter.

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      And yet now they have over 50 million men who may never have an opportunity to be with a woman.

                    • Brown Rose

                      I don’t feel bad for them at all. They have vaunted the male and it cost them with their inhuman practices against women. And this effecting China and India.

                    • cakes_and_pies

                      But want to keep the population ‘pure’. How Sway?

                    • miss t-lee

                      I think I read that India has a similar problem. Too many boys, and no one to increase the population with.

                    • esa

                      oo yea India, where widows were burned alive when their husbands died. it’s very telling how common the destruction of women has been for the better part of human history.

                    • miss t-lee

                      Indeed.

                  • Brown Rose

                    because they usually keep their hate insulated.
                    **This is key difference. they don’t air the dirty laundry to people that aren’t in their in-group. There is no denying that there are certain Asian countries that have regressive and misogynistic policies. The difference is that they don’t go on twitter or TV to pronounce that Asian women are ugly if they are past 30 and didn’t get plastic surgery.

                    • cheddachasa

                      The Asian countries are so homogenized that everyone is in the in-group.

                    • Brown Rose

                      Not all of them. China is a good example. Han is the biggest ethnic group but they have a large portion of minorities and foreigners living there . My point is that they are not going on twitter, blogs, youtube, and what not castigating their women domestically and internationally on the scale that is acceptable here in America.

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      But to be fair, that’s because their government regulates the crap out of everything they say and do. They are not allowed to speak out against topics the government has sanctioned.

                      So at times, our free speech is clearly the reason EVERYBODY knows our business.

                    • AsamiSato

                      Asian-American here… Asian countries are not homogenous and it is not the case that everyone is in the ‘in-group’ in those countries. There is a lot of internal diversity and often racialized prejudice among Asian people even from the same country (light-skinned vs. dark-skinned in India is a big deal, for instance). My grandparents were considered a mixed marriage because my grandmother was from mainland Japan and my grandfather was from Okinawa. It was quite scandalous. Just because Asians all look the same to you doesn’t mean that there aren’t distinctions that you don’t notice. :)

                    • cheddachasa

                      My apologies for generalizing. I was thinking mostly of Japan and Korea but not thinking of geographical or ethnic distinctions that are not evident to the lay person.

                    • AsamiSato

                      No worries cheddachasa (nice name btw), like most people I have also believed and said ignorant things about people from other backgrounds. :)

                    • @TheSheBennett

                      Amen

                    • Kas

                      Who told you that?

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      True but that’s also because they haven’t had help reinforcing their hatred as Black men have help from White America to reinforce that hatred.

                  • L8Comer

                    Mandatory? Wow. That’s how you get that case a while back of a man suing his wife for fraud bc he thought she was naturally beautiful until he saw the kids ?. Idk if that was a bs story or not tho lol

                    • Either way – das messed up.

                    • L8Comer

                      Agreed

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      That was a real story. It actually happened.

                      And he won.

                    • L8Comer

                      Yikes

                  • L8Comer

                    Smh she says now she regrets getting her eyes done but was told here in the US if she didn’t she’d never make it. I think she denies her nose tho

                    • Scorpiogoddess??

                      Her nose is Done! It was black then went narrow.

                    • L8Comer

                      Oh I know. Idk why she’s denying it tho.. that’s not contouring

                    • Blueberry01

                      “I think she denies her nose tho”

                      …just like Halle Berry and Jennifer Lopez.

                  • Scorpiogoddess??

                    She got her nose done too? Or her whole face?

                • Mary Burrell

                  I have read about what your Asian girlfriends speak of in regards to beauty standards.

            • miss t-lee

              Fetish is one thing, being told all the ways you’re undesirable is another.

            • Question

              But the source of the fetishization isn’t Asian men.

            • Blueberry01

              …and black women are fetishized?!? Every aspect of our bodies has been stolen, bought, replicated, and lusted after.

          • Hispanic is not a race though… Black hispanic women are with other diasporan women.

            • Brown Rose

              This is true. When most people refer to Latinas they are often thinking of woman that look like Salma Hayek and not Celia Cruz. Just this past week. There was a white guy looking for hot Latinas. He was demanding an Eva Longaoria lookalike.

          • Don’tknow

            How do Arabic Men treat Arabic Women…How do Indian Men treat Indian Women…How do Hispanic Men treat Hispanic Women…all three of these cultures and ethnic groups are Hypermasculine and often oppress, abuse, rape, torture, abandon, and neglect women and girls. However, the difference is the women don’t write books, plays, movies, and television shows telling the world that their Men are the only men in the world, who hate and disrespect their women.

      • RewindingtonMaximus

        I would like to ponder on this issue though.

        Somebody like Trick Daddy aint got no damn please to be talking about what Black women should do.

        Yet…sometimes I’m literally convinced a lot of these rich nigs are sincerely separated from reality. Like everybody around them is a walking stereotype. EVERYBODY. Their friends, their family, the women that approach them…the worst kinds. Like their whole lives are literally memes repeating over and over again.

        Then they want to tell the world why people aint sh*t. Nah nig…YOU AINT SH*T…because you won’t live real life.

        • Brown Rose

          I think objectification and being able to compartmentalize people into discrete units, once you don’t have to be around regular people is part of it. Also money seems to allow you the opportunity to say what you think and people will take your words seriously. All we have to do is look at Trump as Exhibit A, B,C, and D. The only difference is that where Black women are concerned, you don’t need to be rich to say what you feel about them. people will listen to you no matter what in order to conform to their own ideas about Black women.

          • RewindingtonMaximus

            I agree with that but that comes from women bashing in general.

            I’ll say this, albeit it’s not going to be nice and probably going to get me in trouble.

            Black women are an easy target to vent at. That’s why so many Black men, both young and old, have so much vitrol to spew. Because Black women are RIGHT THERE. Right next to Black men. They’ve seen the highs, the lows, and all in between. They’ve added to the best and worst moments in life for these Black men. So when they finally reached a point with frustration that can’t be tempered anymore, instead of knowing how to convert that frustration into fuel, all they do is just turn to the easiest target they can find…the Black woman right next to them.

            This is where we fucked up from day one. And this is why I keep sharing this information because I want SOMEONE to get why this crap needs to be stomped out from the very beginning. Cause these lil nigs keep sharing the same crap with their friends, and getting reinforcement, then want to take it with them wherever they go, far into adulthood, and keep spewing it like it’s nobody’s business, but still require women from love, seckual gratification, child bearing, and long term companionship.

            How can you ask all of that out of somebody you want to be your verbal & physical punching bag?

            (also, when I say I want someone to see this..this is mainly for VSB..cause it’s only us men who are going to fix the problem. It’s not on the women)

            • “How can you ask all of that out of somebody you want to be your verbal & physical punching bag?”

              You can’t.
              But as long as you got two dummies (one to bring up the bullshid behavior, and the stupid yes man as a friend) it’s not going to stop. Men (some) bring this crazy home from their workplace, their chill spot, the barbershop, etc where shid is spoken all day. After a while, cats start to believe it. So, until the know-knothings learn on their on, or a situation goes left, maybe even stumble in here, their mate will be the whipping post, the punching bag – the target.

              • Blueberry01

                “So, until the know-knothings learn on their on, or a situation goes left, maybe even stumble in here, their mate will be the whipping post, the punching bag – the target.”

                I’m telling you, some men learn by having negative experiences versus being told what not to do.

                • lkeke35

                  I don’t think that’s just men. There are some people who ONLY learn through their own experience, and can be TOLD absolutely nothing.

                  • Blueberry01

                    Very true.

                    I find it more so in men than women, though.

            • Brown Rose

              And this is where my problem lies. native Americans struggled terribly—but they don’t do this publicly like Black men do. This is what frustrates me. Black women have been at the forefront of every movement to help Black men–yet we still are treated at times with such contempt. Is it any wonder that a some Black women may start to check out. Everything else you said is correct. its on Black men to fix this but I don’t think they will.

              • Question

                That’s because Black men are rewarded socially for their displays of disdain for Black women. Therein lies the difference. My grandpappy when he’s in “let me tell you about the world” mode swears this was the plan after integration – to breed discord between Black men and women – in order to exert control over our progress as a community. A community is only as strong as the connection between its men and women, who serve different purposes and this has been systematically eroded for centuries.

                • Bloop

                • Blueberry01

                  “My grandpappy when he’s in “let me tell you about the world” mode swears this was the plan after integration – to breed discord between Black men and women – in order to exert control over our progress as a community.”

                  I agree with him. There’s a documentary called, “What Black Men Think” by Janks Morton that I think you should watch.

                • Nortey

                  Yo grandpappy is a genius.

              • Digital_Underground

                “its on Black men to fix this but I don’t think they will.”

                This assumes “Black men” can indeed fix it. I don’t think so. These kinds of things are deeply personal things. And they can only be repaired on a deeply person level. One Black man can try to do right by the people in his own circle. Better yet, he can do what he thinks is right. However, the women in his family are not Black women as a whole they’re just the women he’s connected to.

                We have to draw lines between the people we are connected to and the theoretical “Black people” we think we are apart of. The few close friends I have are all Black men. They’ve been my friends since before I could grow facial hair. However, the few times I felt like my life was in danger was also at the hands of Black men. And therein lies the problem. If Black people are not a monolith, then unfortunately there can never be any collective fix. But the problem isn’t collective either.

              • Wise Old Owl

                Trick Daddy is not different than the Azzela Banks of the world…only difference is her and women like her, who crap on Black Men get a pass. All the so-called Progressive Awoke Blogs, such as The Root, The Grio, Madiamnoire, and Black Voices wouldn’t dare write posts calling her out for her numerous attacks on Black Men. Heck, Regina King can pen an essay in a mainstream publication on why Black women, should date non-Black Men without being boycotted, however, if Malcolm Jamal Warner did the same, he would be attacked and threatened with boycotts of reruns of Malcolm and Eddie…

                • Nikki Jeremy

                  You are deflecting. Black men are the most likely of any demographic to date outside their race. Black women are least likely to date outside their race. In no way shape or form is there anything near an equivalency. No one is supporting Azealia Banks, but black women will always be there for black men, even after black men leave their a$! for a white girl.

              • Charlito Brown

                “And this is where my problem lies. native Americans struggled terribly—but they don’t do this publicly like Black men do.”

                I think this might have a little more to do with the fact that Native Americans are treated as more or less invisible. So many of us talk about them like they’re all dead or ancient history or something. Who of us can name one contemporary Native American activist or freedom fighter (besides maybe Leonard Peltier)? How about any popular Native bloggers/vloggers/Tweeters/Instagrammers? I’ll wait… After this whole Dakota Access Pipeline thing dies down, we’ll probably go right back to treating them like their dead. But that’s just my $0.02.

            • Iwanthamma

              But our love and loyalty is not always about standing by and sticking up for the black men who abandon and mistreat us. Often our concern stems from mothering black boys and our need/responsibility to at least try to keep them safe. We’re not marching and crying for the Trick Daddys if the world. We’re out there for the boys sitting at our dinner tables.

              • RewindingtonMaximus

                You’re still proving my point though.

                If you didn’t grow up tough and your mom always took care of you and provided for you, but the world is harsh to you in return…who do you take your anger out on? Mom.

                Just for yourself, tell me you were never rude or disrespectful to your mom at least one time when she did nothing to deserve it, because teenage angst and what not.

                • Iwanthamma

                  Of course I’ve been disrespectful to my mom…and when I got up off the floor she gave me some ice for my lip and STILL made it her business to try to protect me.

                  • Blueberry01

                    I do think you have a point. Men learn by FEELING the consequences of their mal-adaptive behavior and poor choices. If they’ve never been corrected, as unfortunately some moms “love” their sons and “raise” their daughters, then it’s quite possible they are product of their lax child-rearing.

                    (Alternatively, some men learn to hate women by having overly-aggressive mothers. They associate black women with the poor and unfair treatment they received while growing up.)

                    So, ladies, learn to leave the f*ckboys alone sooner (rather than later). If we ALL did this, then they’d get their act together quicker, and we’d run into them less often in the future.

            • Black women advocate for EVERYBODY AND WILL EVEN BEAT EACH OTHER UP TO DO SO… I ain’t having it.

              • RewindingtonMaximus

                That’s the point love, you were never supposed to have it in the first place.

                But I’m tired of a fight without knowing what the fight was about in the first place. I don’t think it’s fair to constantly see the same struggle but not talk about why that struggle is repeated daily.

            • Mary Burrell

              You tell that to that Zo dude who likes to spew his black woman hatred in this space.

            • Blueberry01

              when I say I want someone to see this..this is mainly for VSB..cause it’s only us men who are going to fix the problem. It’s not on the women

              #TRUTH

              We can’t fix something that we didn’t create.

              I suggest that men focus on building their self-awareness and self-esteem in healthy ways, so they can pinpoint when they are spewing their hate and/or not feel the need to subject themselves to this immature behaviors (i.e. hurting others because they are hurt).

              I also think having positive male role models help, too.

              • RewindingtonMaximus

                I agree Blue. There aren’t too many positive role models that are engaging, and there are quite a number of people who don’t see themselves as role models but could be helpful.

                Self-awareness is the tricky part. We are hyper aware of what the world thinks of us but never self-aware on how we act & react to everything within our environment.

                • Blueberry01

                  “Self-awareness is the tricky part. We are hyper aware of what the world thinks of us but never self-aware on how we act & react to everything within our environment.”

                  I find hyper-awareness to be more present in densely-populated areas (e.g. NYC, DC, L.A.) more so than suburban or rural. One of the main reasons is due to the sheer volume of people that you interact with is far greater in large cities. Thus, you end up being more mindful of how your surroundings impact you versus how you impact your environment.

                  • RewindingtonMaximus

                    Indeed, which is perhaps why I sincerely hate being in the suburbs. I hate that I can’t turn my hyper-awareness off while everyone else never managed to turn theirs on even once.

                    • Blueberry01

                      Interesting…but you bang with me and I’m from the suburbs. ?

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      But that’s because you’re good at observations which means you are hyper aware soo…..you’re good with me.

                    • Blueberry01

                      ….and living in NYC for almost a decade probably helps. #BKStandUp ?#UptownStandUp?

                      Thanks, though.

                      I’m not sure if I’m hyper-aware or if my introvertism lends itself to analyze and observe situations first before jumping right in. So, I think I’ve indirectly developed a sense of discernment.

          • Blueberry01

            “people will listen to you no matter what in order to conform to their own ideas about Black women.”

            Implicit bias is VERY real, folks…

        • You’re right, but other than going broke, how are you supposed to just be? Particularly in this era where it isn’t hard to find if someone is hiding their identity as a celebrity.

    • I’m too aloof to be “woke” constantly. It’s tiresome to be ready to pounce all of the time.

      My think piece consumption has dropped with my blog consumption.

      • miss t-lee

        If something says “thinkpiece” in the title I’m definitely not reading it.

        • I remember a few years ago the net was deep with thinkpieces. Seems like blogging went from relationship heavy ish to thinkpieces to whatever we have now.

          • miss t-lee

            True. I’ve watched the progression.

    • Other_guy13

      Replaced by what though??? How do you replace perfection? I need a moment http://blog.mytennislessons.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/serena1.jpg

      • miss t-lee

        IDK—talk to your people.

        • Other_guy13

          I don’t know those people….they need Jesus

          • miss t-lee

            Hahahah

      • CrankUpThe_AC

        Look at the Lord at work. Won’t he do it? smh

    • L8Comer
      • miss t-lee

        *hollering*

      • Other_guy13

        *dead*

      • Medium Meech

        That’s the perfect amount of woke. I would 100% do that.

        • L8Comer

          I just picture myself like “nah, fuck that! Tobi? Where’s my damn sharpee” and then drawing a raised black fist next to it or some other illustration. Standing back and observing it with an approving smile Lolol

          • Candiceastephens3

            Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !hy86f:
            On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
            !hy86f:
            ??
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          • Debradkelly

            Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !hq43f:
            On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
            !hq43f:
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      • This is too funny.

      • Diego Duarte

        Should’ve dropped a warning. Had to stifle the laugh at work.

      • Gail

        When you’re too woke to notice that Tobi is a Nigerian name lol

        • L8Comer

          Next level woke lol ?

          • Gail

            Too far gone at that point lol.

        • L8Comer

          I will spread the word

    • Illumina

      “I’m over thinkpieces.”

      Girl, me too! To me, some of this stuff that some people focus on doesn’t deserve all that time. A quick, “fukk them” would suffice.

      • miss t-lee

        Seriously!!!!

      • No Google

        for real.

      • Freebird

        This is how you protect your soul.

        • DomiMami

          No doubt! My soul has been shook over the last couple of years. I am learning I have to ignore $#!T sometimes. Unfortunately, the way my desire for justice is set up…im still workin’ on it!

          • lkeke35

            I’ve been workin on this too. It takes a minute.

            Teaching myself to just say, “Stay mad bish!” And just walking out on it. It keeps my blood pressure down, if nothing else.

            Try Tumblr. They got that attitude down. People on Tumblr won’t explain sh*t to you if they don’t feel like it. They favorite phrase is, “Google it!”

      • My favorite line.

    • cakes_and_pies

      The woke community is the Micheal Eric Dysons of social media.

    • Eri Cad

      I need this on a shirt

      • miss t-lee

        *daps*
        Thank you.

  • Scorpiogoddess??

    Dude said that white people smell like wet dogs cause they from Mars.

    Currently howling!!!!!?

  • Digital_Underground

    Its one thing to disagree while attempting to do something. The Civil Rights Movement was a collection of smaller pushes for justice over a period of time. Some were for integration. Others were for separation. Some thought it could be done through the Black church (Christianity). Others advocated a total change of religion to improve (Islam).

    Some focused on entertainment. Some believed it would happen mostly through enterprise (BT Washington). Others pushed higher education instead. There was disagreement and conflicts of thought all over the place. But they were doing something.

    Today’s super hotep types are all about digital characters on a social media platform. Plus, why do people begin with insults? It’s kind of hard to organize and build support when you begin from a place of exclusiveness and pettiness.

    • Word. Everyone wants to be Martin or Malcolm, but no one wants to try and integrate the schools in some no name town somewhere. People need to put some actual boots on the ground and a$$es on the line for the social justice they claim to want.

      • Digital_Underground

        I’d take it a step further. Everyone wants to Martin or Malcolm but nobody wants to get shot.

        • Freebird

          This is it!

  • The Woke Olympics are not about uplifitng people, but of using all available social media to promote your ego.

    And nothing distracts from results longer and more resolutely than ego.

    • cakes_and_pies

      So the Woke Olympics runs tangent with the IG model Olympics?

      • Basically.

      • Lea Thrace

        lord help us if those two ever intersect. might create a singularity

        • I mean the male Woke Olympians are probably in the “models” dms sooooo….

        • Kim

          lol I think they already did. You have some insta models trying to be woke, preaching one minute posting butt naked selfies the next.

          • Blueberry01

            Cardi B is somewhat woke

      • Is instagram modeling a job?!

        • cakes_and_pies

          They get sponsorship to promote products and clothing lines, so I guess?

        • Scorpiogoddess??

          Unnnnnnnn yes

    • Asiyah

      That’s what all Olympics are, from Oppression Olympics to the Woke Olympics.

      • What do you mean by Oppression Olympics?

        • When Group A diminishes the struggles of Group. I remember blogging about a barbershop convo I overheard when a guy was diminishing the Holocaust in comparison to American slavery.

          • I hate that mess. It’s sad and pathetic.

          • Thanks! Comparing suffering is silly. It’s like trading baseball cards for which people felt the most pain; it solves nothing.

            • Asiyah

              Wu answered it for me. And you can tell that people who do this are doing it for the exact same reason you stated with respect to the Woke Olympics: promotion of ego. Many find validation in that.

          • Mary Burrell

            I hate that and I always thought that was ignorant. I see that a lot on different discussion forums.

  • April Caddell

    Great article! That is all.

  • Negro Libre

    Mass Racial Unity is an overrated ideal to be honest ijs.

    Most people, in real life, have a couple handfuls of real friends or partners they work with, if they truly want to get substantial things done – mass protests nowadays are more so social events, than strategy towards a goal. You’re not going to find that kind of efficiency and sense of urgency in social media. In social media, people are often fighting and debating over abstract ideas that have no path towards resolution: relationships, conspiracies, feelings – how do you resolve a conflict of ideas when they come about? You can’t resolve them with facts, data or experience, and for every narrative, there is a counter-narrative, that appeals to whichever base one chooses to appeal to (people pay attention to the stories they like, just like people read the books they like)

    As for people constantly writing think-pieces about nothing and people soaking in false information from false prophets, I see no reason, why black people are not entitled the right to be humans, and engage in digital cults, like the rest of humanity. Scientology got white folks, and I grew up hearing stories about ugly witches using juju to steal husbands from church fearing-women of God, so I see nothing wrong with that; alas, we find that the path towards liberation, doesn’t exempt us all from the pitfalls and foibles of the rest of humanity, go figure.

    • fedup

      Social media is also about people tryna be seen and heard. Mix the two, and you get the WO. Happens there, happens here, happens everywhere, and every single person is a participant at one point or another.

      At least if you are aware of it, and acknowledge your place in it, you can begin to do something about it. “You ain’t got to reply to every comment Fed! Sometimes, you can just leave it be without a comeback. Or, let the silence BE your comeback. HA!”

      • “You don’t have to attend every argument you’re invited to.”

        • Cheech

          “But someone on the internet is WRONG!!”

    • Epsilonicus

      “Mass Racial Unity is an overrated ideal to be honest ijs.”

      I used to roll my eyes when Todd said, not because I disagreed per se but I thought he was being dramatic. Over the last few months I definitely find myself agreeing with him when he says this now because I see that this kind of what people actually want.

    • Dee

      “Most people, in real life, have a couple handfuls of real friends or partners they work with, if they truly want to get substantial things done – mass protests nowadays are more so social events, than strategy towards a goal.”

      This statement is how I kind feel about BLM at the moment. ( don’t hiss at me)

  • RewindingtonMaximus

    Great article Karma. Thank you for saying this because I’ve been trying the words to express my disinterest in all these issues myself, and couldn’t find the right ones.

    I will say this though.

    Folks turned being woke into what we as Black people, who police ourselves way too often, always do: we turned it into a p i s s i n g competition. Always have to show who knows more and why they are better for it, while everybody else is basura for not being on the same level.

    It’s simple in my 32-year old mind. If you’re not saying anything that doesn’t involve the right to be productive, the right to be intelligent, the right to be empathetic, the right to show love & respect, the right to acknowledge failure but encourage trying again, the right to just be a Black man and encourage us for a better tomorrow, and above all respecting & loving Black women is not just a right, it’s a standard (even if you don’t understand them or agree with them at times)…then

    http://i60.tinypic.com/33wtz6t.gif

    • You’re absolutely right. However, people are so wedded to their own pain and suffering that it’s never really going to end. The venue will just shift.

      • Digital_Underground

        Some people literally define themselves by their pain. There is a point where we have to acknowledge what is really hurting us inside. But building entire personal identities, philosophies, and even brands behind ones pain and suffering can’t be healthy. Somethings need to be left for dead and buried.

        • Blueberry01

          It isn’t. It’s called narcissism.

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