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If You’re An American, And You Don’t Give A Damn About Black Americans, Your “Patriotism” Is Bullshit

For the past week, the prevailing national conversations spring boarded by Colin Kaepernick’s protest have primarily dealt with the level of patriotism possessed by Kaepernick and others aligned with his beliefs about our country and supportive of his means of protest. Some of this conversation has existed in the form of nuanced acknowledgements of the very real and relevant sources for Kaepernick’s (and other’s) ambivalence.  And, of course, some of this conversation has been predictably terrible; where blind and mindless loyalty to both our country and the symbols representing it — even if the country hasn’t been particularly loyal to us — seems to be the expectation.

Either way, the spotlight is shining on us and our complex relationship(s) to the ideal of patriotism. And the spotlight is shining in the wrong direction.

Black Americans are Americans. Living and breathing citizens of this country; many of whom can trace our lineages here back hundreds of years. Maybe our (collective) feelings about America are complex and perhaps our patriotism can be doubted at times (and for good reason). But one thing is simple: We are American citizens. This is an inextricable truth. A truth that remains true despite a history (and present) of that citizenship being doubted, questioned, and even outright dismissed.

But we are Americans. And for the Black American, the 300 million other American citizens are our countrymen. Which is why we need to start doubting the patriotic bonafides of those doubting ours.

Patriotism isn’t just an infatuation with and fanaticism for symbols and abstractions. It’s a steadfastness in making sure the country’s professed ideals aren’t just honored and protected, but extended to each of its citizens. It’s not standing for the flag, it’s fighting for what the flag is supposed to stand for. It’s wanting to keep your countrymen — all of them — safe.

Maybe Colin Kaepernick isn’t particularly patriotic. But if you can’t bother to be concerned about the centuries-long and impregnable mistreatment of millions of your fellow Americans, neither are you.

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for GQ.com and EBONY Magazine. And a founding editor for 1839. And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at damon@verysmartbrothas.com. Or don't. Whatever.

  • Jennifer

    I just wish people would stop pretending their Kaepernick complaints are about defending the troops or the flag. Most of the time I see someone clarify that his issue is related to brutality against POC, they completely ignore that point and continue complaining. Just be honest and admit you don’t care about what happens to black and brown folks, and we can move on.

    • Adrienne Johnson

      It’s because they can’t face the harsh reality that minorities are actually targeted by LEOs of all races and the sub-reality that more often than not the targeting is based solely on that individual’s skin color. It’s basically them admitting that racism still exists and IS a problem in this country.

      • Question

        This and they can’t handle the fact that a rich black man isn’t thanking his lucky stars that he’s rich and as a result isn’t staying in his place and keeping his mouth shut. Black wealth is supposed to negate any ability to point out problems or request change. If he was some bench warmer and not a (debatable) quarterback who just signed a $117M+ deal, we wouldn’t be talking about this.

        Remember – we’re supposed to be glad we are the descendants of slaves and aren’t in Africa. Thank goodness for being owned chattel.

        • bunnychi75

          Not only that, but Kaepernick was adopted by a WHITE family! How DARE he (according to that stupid Toni chick) turn his back on them! No, he’s not, he’s long realized that just because of that, he’s not safe, either, and has long realized the injustices that are going on in this country.

          • Adrienne Johnson

            Don’t get me started on Toni/Tomi, whoever she is. I’m not walking down negativity lane today. I rebuke this!!!! lol

            • Sigma_Since 93

              Charlamagine clapped back on his show.

              • Cleojonz

                Did you hear his Donkey of the Day this morning? I was really rooting for Cam Newton last season but if he does not get off this I don’t see color after they called him every kind of classless thug just for dancing last season. Uggghh!

                • Adrienne_in_MTown

                  That Ninja went & hired a PR team, lol. I’m sure they’re not of the brown skin persuasion.

                • Sigma_Since 93

                  Cam’s trying to keep his head down after last year. He knows what’s really up. If you read anything written pre superbowl and his draft day lets you know that he knows.

                  • Cleojonz

                    Yes, and that’s what makes me so angry about him taking this stance. They already hate you so why go that way. Even just last year even he said he is a black quarterback and a lot of people don’t like that. So WTF??!!!

        • Blueberry01

          It’s so funny how he’s considered “Black” now that he’s protesting (and his deep-conditioned fro that he’s sporting), but he was deemed racially ambiguous before.

      • King Beauregard

        That’s pretty much it: beneficiaries of the system don’t like being reminded of how unfair it is, especially since that realization morally obligates them to do something about it. At some level the train of thought is something like: “I just wanted to relax and watch a football game and have a good time, then this guy has to make me think about how people are suffering needlessly and how it’s my job to fix the system.”

        I say this as a straight white guy of Christian extraction, who can at least get into the head of people who don’t want to hear about the injustices of the US.

        • Blueberry01

          First of all, yes to the white guy of Christian extraction.

          Secondly, I think your other fellow extracts would hate to admit that what they’ve achieved was not solely based on merit. Their whiteness got them A LOT of doors.

          • King Beauregard

            Their whiteness got them doors that were not arbitrarily and capriciously locked, is how I would look at it. That’s an important distinction, because it means that, when one is in the straight white male bubble, a person can legitimately say “I wasn’t given anything special, and I don’t even want anything special”.

            Think of a 100 meter dash with a straight white guy in one lane, and then in the lanes next to him a black man, a white woman, and (let’s make this fun) a Romanian transvestite. All participants are running as hard as they can and trying to compete fairly, but what’s not evident to the straight white guy is that the black man’s lane has some loose gravel on it, the white woman’s lane has damp patches, and the Romanian transvestite’s lane has semi-exposed bricks that cause him to trip in his high heels. The white guy wins of course, and he has not cheated in any way nor can he see that the other participants’ lanes are significantly different from his. As far as he can tell, his victory was completely legit, even though the contest was rigged in his favor. And he gets sick of being told that he didn’t “really” win.

            Now of course as analogies go that’s imperfect. In the real-life situation I’m analogizing to, it’s somewhat easier for a straight white guy to see his advantages, and there’s less reason to believe the contest was completely fair. So I’m just trying to describe the view from inside the straight white male bubble, I do not intend to justify it.

            • Blueberry01

              I love the example, but I’d beg to differ that the “straight male bubble” white people are completely oblivious to the fact that other races have “messed up lanes” before they start running. Plus, when you point out concrete examples (which I’m about to do to you, too) that demonstrate the biased treatment, they refuse to acknowledge the truth. (I blame cognitive dissonance.)

              I’ve been in situations where white people have intentionally tried to stifle the success of minorities. (Disclaimer: I used to be a high school teacher.) I’ve had to fight for white administrators to use the funds allotted to our school to purchase textbooks for a required class that students needed for graduation. Not that we didn’t have the money, or our school was failing, but the white administrator thought she could misuse the funds for her own personal gain.

              Or, why our violent crime rate rate has been consistent since the 70s yet we’ve mass incarcerated 7x as many people since that time (and 60% are minorities). (See thesentencingproject.org) In other words, there are many minorities in jail who are LOW-LEVEL, NON-VIOLENT offenders who, if and when they are released, are blocked from employment, higher education, and housing. Additionally, white communities aren’t policed as heavily as minorities, so it’s not like there is equal representation of white offenders, who ALSO commit these acts, in comparison to their non-white counterparts.

              • King Beauregard

                You’re right, of course, that there are whites who can see it clear as day and even be actively complicit in it, and yet deny it. I sure don’t mean to make excuses for them. But I felt it was worth explaining how it’s possible for whites to legitimately not see it.

                For me, Trayvon Martin was an eye opener: it’s one thing for a a lone nut to kill a black kid, but then to see the system bend over backwards to protect the “lone” nut — apparently he’s not “lone” at all, he’s operating under the protection and the blessing of the system. And then to see the public support he received … good Lord, that was a Red Alert to me that things were much much worse than I’d ever imagined.

                • Blueberry01

                  Yeah, your explanation was very clear and I liked the analogy that you provided – but it served no purpose for me. I already know how “straight white male bubble” people act; I’m a minority so I’ve experienced it firsthand my entire life. (But, if you talk to some other people who have a hard time understanding racism, I encourage you to use it.)

                  Although I’m happy that you had a revelatory moment with Trayvon, I’m wondering how old you are because there are numerous examples before him (and throughout history) that could have also got your attention.

                  • King Beauregard

                    I’m 49, and yeah, I wasn’t paying enough attention. I can’t claim that I’m out of the white bubble, only that I’m trying.

                    You mention that there are numerous examples throughout history, but bear in mind that historical examples don’t necessarily say much about where we are today. I knew racism was still around, was a mainstay of conservative politics, and needed to be challenged where it cropped up; but the raw unrelenting injustice of every aspect of Trayvon Martin was … well, I’d hoped we’d gotten better than that, and apparently we hadn’t.

                    The response to Netroots Nation really disappointed me too; I could have sworn that BLM was a cause every liberal could support unconditionally, even if it meant talking about something other than single payer for a minute. Apparently that’s not the case, and nothing the Left ever did disappointed me as much as trotting out old Republican talking points in response to BLM (“their tactics are pushing us away” / “don’t they know that single payer will help them better than any of their petty concerns?” / “MLK Jr wouldn’t approve of their race baiting” / etc). My eyes may have been slow to open, but once I’ve seen something, I don’t unsee it.

                    • Blueberry01

                      King, thank you for being willing to step out of your white bubble. But, I take issue with your statement,

                      “You mention that there are numerous examples throughout history, but bear in mind that historical examples don’t necessarily say much about where we are today.”

                      Any minority, especially an African-American, knows that our history is this country DIRECTLY affects how we are unjustly, negatively, and disproportionately treated across various sectors of life. These include (but are not limited to) education, economics, housing acquisition, the criminal justice system, and arts and entertainment.

                      The unspoken problem with racism is that it is a systematic; so it doesn’t just “crop up”, when an isolated incident receives nationwide media attention, as in the Trayvon Martin case. (Even then, people dismissed it as an anomaly.)

                      But, I do thank you, again, for being willing to have this discussion with me.

                    • King Beauregard

                      I’m doing my best to keep up. :-)

                      When I say that historically examples don’t “necessarily” say much about where we are today, let’s be clear that I’m not denying the impact of the past. For example, Coates sold me on reparations by pointing out how events from a century ago have everything to do with the opportunities available to blacks today (for example, redlining led to predominantly black neighborhoods which never took off economically and the schools are terrible to this day and the cycle keeps going).

                      That said, I can’t accept the argument that, if something happened in the past, it is therefore happening today. It just doesn’t hold up logically. There is value in current examples, and if current examples are not to be found, well … that’d probably a good thing for the topic at hand.

                      As an example of positive change, I was going to point out how every general store in the South used to sell postcards depicting lynchings. I was going to, but then I thought about Trayvon Martin. Between how photos of his body are readily available and the delight so many racists showed over Zimmerman’s acquittal, I’m not sure anything has changed, except that there are fewer general stores and nobody uses postcards any longer.

                      In the case of Trayvon Martin, if it was an anomaly, it was an anomaly only to the extent that it was the perfect illustration of everything wrong all at once. It couldn’t have happened at all under a system that was run by people operating in good faith. (The attorney who threw the Zimmerman case was defeated in the recent Florida elections, though, so that’s … a good sign, maybe?)

                      Well, like I said, once I see something, I don’t un-see it.

          • King Beauregard

            … or maybe it’s like this video of the SNES “Family Feud” game, where the white family is able to win with gibberish answers (thanks to bad AI) and all the black family can do is give them the stink-eye.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsOHuugiQck

            • Blueberry01

              You better bring back old school gaming!

        • Wild Cougar

          The thing that is funny(not funny) about this is most white people would have no problem whatsoever having their football game interrupted to consider the effed up veteran health system, the environment or even stray cats or dogs. It’s just their fellow citizens who happen to be Black that they can’t stand to be forced to consider or give any concern to.

          • King Beauregard

            That’s a real good point. You’d still have to be careful how you broached a topic like veterans, but the point is, it could still be done. There’s no way to broach racial inequality without a big chunk of the melanin-deprived audience immediately taking a defensive / hostile stance

    • Question

      People forget that the major form of protest that Vietnam Vets when protesting a Federal Court decision that desecrating the flag was not a protected form of freedom of speech was to BURN THE FLAG.

      No one questioned their patriotism. In fact, there acts were a major force in the Supreme Court overturning that decision and allowing desecration of the flag and removing it from being a federal offense.

      Right, wrong or indifferent, Colin Kapernick is exercising the very rights that our troops fight for, so they can miss me with their patriotism stuff.

      • Cheech

        Actually, lots of people questioned their patriotism. The angry right back then was just as single-minded about equating patriotism with the symbol, not the substance, and skitting on those who disagreed with them about it–not just minorities, but the young, the long-haired, the protesters for peace–vets included.

        I agree with you on the rest, though.

    • K.D. Andrews

      THANK YOU. This has NOTHING to do with the fact that he sat down but WHY he sat down.

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      Call me a pessimist, but I think they like the status quo.

      “Unemployed black and brown guys Should be shot, shame if there’s collateral damage. But what are you gonna do, let them live? ”

      Was it last week?

      The off duty cop that almost ran over that brother’s child…Daddy confronted him, and the cop killed the father right where he stood.

      Headed back to the hip hop post

      • King Beauregard

        You’re right that they like the status quo, but THEIR status quo is a simple one: the system is just, all you have to do is fly straight and you’ll be fine.

        Reminding them that the system is wildly unjust if you’re not a straight white male Christian jeopardizes their status quo maximally, by obligating them to fix the system at risk to their own comfort. Many of them don’t even object to blacks being treated as well as whites, they object to having to fix problems that they don’t see themselves as having created.

        Of course, the objections don’t really hold up: nobody is asking whites to do anything other than be on the lookout for racism and stand against it when they see it. This could apply in the family, at work, or in politics. There is a possibility of social awkwardness but that’s the worst of it.

        • Adrienne Johnson

          The system is just until it isn’t.

          There are white people who also been killed by police, whether it was related to excessive force or just a car accident as well as jailed for a crime they didn’t commit. I dare say those white people get it, because it’s likely that their relatives were also denied an honest account of the events that led to their loved one’s death/incarceration and any real justice.

          And 100% YES to your last statement. It’s completely ridiculous to think anyone would expect white people to atone for the atrocities that their ancestors committed. We just want the racism acknowledged and those racists held accountable by everyone, not just us.

          • King Beauregard

            To be sure there are whites who are killed by police, but the system won’t go to the same lengths to cram it into a narrative of “once more, justice was served”. When the victim is black, the problem isn’t just that a policeman made a fatally bad call; it’s also that the other police close ranks to support the shooter, the prosecutor throws the case, and the media goes out of its way to cast the victim as a criminal who had it coming.

            I’m a white guy and I can feel, at some level, the white guy defensiveness about racism: “look, I don’t want blacks to be second class citizens, as far as I know I’m not doing anything to hold them down, get off my back willya?” When you’re white you can opt to not make racism your problem, and I’m sorry to say it cuts across the political spectrum. To their semi-credit, even a great many Republicans would rather live in a color-blind society, and are primarily frustrated to have any obligation to fix racism.

            Choosing to be conscious of racism (or at least semi-conscious — it’s tough to gauge objectively) and to feel an obligation to challenge it is not too much to ask for.

            • King Beauregard

              “and are primarily frustrated to have any obligation to fix racism”

              … I haven’t quite figured out how to “weaponize” (for lack of a better word) that observation, but something along the lines of: “I’m sorry racism exists and needs to be fixed, but let’s blame the racists, not the victims.”

            • lol

              I’m a white guy and I can feel, at some level, the white guy defensiveness about racism:

              you ever noticed the white boys with self internalized racism sound even more pathetic?

        • lol

          lol self hating white boy.

    • “Don’t tell me you don’t believe racism still exists, just tell me you don’t care. I find that more believable.”

    • BRNSMRF

      I’ve known for the quite some time that white America does not care about our existence til this day. People think I’m wildin when I say “the feeling is mutual”. The rise of Trump only reaffirms my stance

    • There’s a lot of cognitive dissonance when it comes to his protest. Like, he’s stating exactly why he’s doing it and they hear a completely different language.

      • Jennifer

        His clapback has been wonderful. The socks. That fro. That win. The $1M donation to community organizations. He couldn’t have handled it better.

  • Junegirl627

    My thoughts on people mad at Colin Kaepernick is pretty simple. Stay mad!

    • Janelle Doe

      Dazzit!

  • This whole piece!! Thank you!

  • QueenAnnaT

    I loved scrolling through #VeteransForKaepernick this week. We are at a crossroads in this country where people are waking up to what this country was and continues to be. His right wasn’t embraced to disrespect vets (as many people, want to make it), it was to stand with people of color. I find it amazing that people {white} have so little to worry about, that they can become laser focused on him not standing. Instead of focusing on WHY he chose not to stand.

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/VeteransForKaepernick?src=hash

    • miss t-lee

      Yes. That hashtag was golden.

    • Jennifer

      I was dropping an article about #VeteransForKaepernick in the comment sections of all of my YT classmates who complained he was disrespecting the troops. Felt like stocking stuffers in August.

    • just when I was about to loose faith in humanity I saw that hashtag and my faith was restored

      • Jennifer

        …and people were still ignoring it.

  • brothaskeeper

    What Kap did was as patriotic as saluting the flag, and he stood for something (no pun intended). Jersey burners are some scary, sad folks.

    • “They were who we thought they were.”

    • Furious Styles

      Interesting how they only burn jerseys of black athletes who make decisions they don’t like.

      • brothaskeeper

        Right! To be fair, a few Romo jerseys have been immolated.

        • B-Dot Willz

          But it is a Romo jersey so that is understandable. #whobuysthoseanyway

          • brothaskeeper

            *snicker*

  • Question

    When and how did we let White people and the Right usurp Patriotism? I’m glad to see that in 2016, the Left and people of color are stating to take patriotism back. Ya’ll fought to leave the union, remember, “patriots”?

    • Val

      That stuff the Right says isn’t patriotism. It’s hate disguised as patriotism.

      • Question

        Agreed. Its the same with that disgusting response to demanding any change they don’t agree with:
        “Well if you don’t like it here, maybe you should find somewhere else to go”.

        We should start responding that way when they start complaining about religious freedom, and trans’ folks using bathrooms that they identify with…

    • KNeale

      “Ya’ll fought to leave the union, remember, “patriots”?”

      Thats a great point. IF you are a defender of the confederate flag in any way then you are disrespecting the American flag. Its not patriotic. I need to make sure those folks now. I’m getting on that now…

  • Val

    Many White Americans, especially the ones angry at Colin, mistake Nationalism for patriotism. They aren’t patriots, they don’t love America. They only love their narrow myopic distorted view of what they wish America was. In fact, in truth most of them actually hate America and what its supposed to stand for.

    • Many White Americans, especially the ones angry at Colin, mistake Nationalism for patriotism. <<<<<———
      This is how dictatorial a**hats have historically gained support. A nice conflation of the two ideas and boom we got ourselves a full-on police state.

  • QueenAnnaT

    “Protestors riot: These people need to learn how to protest peacefully!! There has to be a better way!!

    Protestors sit out during playing of national anthem: This is outrageous! There has to be a better way!!

    Protestors sit in at whites only restaurant: I’m outraged that they could be so inconsiderate of people on their lunch hour!! There has to be a better way!

    Protestors raise a black fisted glove on medal podium at olympics: The games are about unity, stop trying to divide us!! There has to be a better way!!

    Protestors march during rush hour stopping traffic: Gah! Why do they have to do it this way? I’m on my way to work!! There has to be a better way!!

    Protestors put hands up in solidarity before St. Louis Rams game: Ugh! Inappropriate! Shut up and play the game!! There has to be a better way!!

    Protestors wear t-shirts that read “I can’t breathe,” before a sporting event: This isn’t the platform for that, respect the game. There has to be a better way!!

    Protestors make passionate speech on BET: That’s reverse racism. All lives matter! There has to be a better way!!

    Protestors disrupt political rally: ugh! We’re not here to see you speak!

    Look, at a certain point, people are going to need to admit to themselves that they’re not upset about how black people are protesting, they are upset that black people are protesting.

    – Jim Patnoudes”

    • Hugh Akston

      Currently reading a book about black in the us in regards to economic power etc…it had somewhat similar lines referring to different events…things haven’t change much

    • Mochasister

      They don’t want to be inconvenienced in their racism. They do not want a mirror held up to their white supremacy because the wrongness of it is offensive and embarrassing. They don’t want their white privilege challenged because they don’t want to question themselves on why they have it or the fairness of even having it. They want Black people to shut up so they can quietly benefit from racism in peace.

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  • rikyrah

    I don’t have a lot of instant pushbuttons.

    But,…one of them is..

    Doubting the patriotism of Black Americans.

    I shall not allow it in my presence.

    Nobody else (outside of Native Americans), has had to find a REASON to be patriotic to this country.

    And, yet, we did it.

    And, we do it.

    Gulf War I was the first ‘War’ where, on the books, all the soldiers fighting for it, were equal under the laws of the land.

    Anytime before that, every Black person that signed up to fight for this country, did so, knowing, that, according to the laws ON THE BOOKS of this land, they were not equal citizens.

    And, yet, we fought.

    Black Americans are so hated,because we don’t allow Mayo Nation to wallow in delusions, and because we FIGHT for America to actually live up to the creed that they beaconed around the world.

    • miss t-lee

      This is a word.
      Yes to all of this.
      YES.

    • catgee12

      Say it two times!!!

    • #Facts!

    • MissusMaxwell

      Yup. All of that.

    • KNeale

      “Nobody else (outside of Native Americans), has had to find a REASON to be patriotic to this country.”

      Truth!!!

      And nobody else was made a “citizen” (in the loose sense) against their will. This country’s diversity stems from elective migration from all the parts of the world (of course I won’t forget that they may have been forced to leave due to American imperialism) EXCEPT black american descendants of slaves. We are a sizable percentage of population due to forced migration and compulsory “citizenship”. You kidnapped me from home, bought me here in chains and threatened with death if I didn’t stay and literally build the infrastucture and economy of this country. Took my name, language, culture. Separated my family and forced me to birth new children multiple times with new “families” at different plantations….but then somehow someway the descendants of the enslaved have their “patriotism” questioned. I wish somebody would!!

    • RewindingtonMaximus

      The same people who fought for this country in various wars prior to the Gulf were called n i g g e r s and s p i c s as soon as they got home.

      The same people who fought for this country after wars got chased out their homes, burning crosses on their lawns, and lynched.

      The same people who fought for this country during and after wars were experimented on and given syphillis on purpose for “educational” reasons.

      The same women who held this country down when the men were at war were sent to doctors to improve their health…only to find out they were given drugs and treatment to make them barren.

      No group of people have fought for ideals of what the Constitution said this country was supposed to be quite like the people with melanin all in their being. Yet they are always the first ones to be questioned about LOYALTY.

      Go head girl…you damn right.

      • Junegirl627

        The same people who wasn’t allowed to use their GI bill to buy homes depending on where they chose to buy.

      • KNeale

        Very few people have ever actually had their patriotism tested like we have. Fighting wars, laboring, producing, culture contributing since before we were even considered human beings, since before we even had the rights of citizens. Who else, in America, has had to do that?

        • RewindingtonMaximus

          No one. And yet we will never get the respect we deserve.

        • pamplemousse00

          so eloquent, so right, so heartbreaking. I wish I could upvote this a million times.

    • TeeChantel

      *hands Rikyrah my entire wallet for the collection plate for this good word*

    • #Preach

    • Objection

      Nobody else (outside of Native Americans), has had to find a REASON to be patriotic to this country.

      Until 1924, Native Americans were not citizens of the United States. Many Native Americans had, and still have, separate nations within the U.S. on designated reservation land. But on June 2, 1924, Congress granted citizenship to all Native Americans born in the U.S.

    • NonyaB

    • Trill Mickelson

      “Nobody else (outside of Native Americans), has had to find a REASON to be patriotic to this country. And, yet, we did it. And, we do it.”

      CHURCH.

      “Anytime before that, every Black person that signed up to fight for this country, did so, knowing, that, according to the laws ON THE BOOKS of this land, they were not equal citizens. And, yet, we fought.”

      TABERNACLE.

    • Mary Burrell

      Well said love “mayo nation”

    • Blueberry01

      One time for Mayo Nation, everybody…?

  • Sigma_Since 93

    It’s amazing that the violent protest of the Boston Tea party makes those participants Patriots, the occupying of a Federal building with gunz is deemed patriotic butd the silent protest of CK makes him a traitor

    • Other_guy13

      ^^^^ this

    • Medium Meech

      This is how I get past the hypocrisy. Whenever you see a seemingly vague and seemingly inclusive patriotic symbol that’s either being violated or needs to be upheld like Flag, or Troops or Freedom or Constitution or America or State’s rights or States rights it’s really just a way to say “White Race”. So just replace those words with the “White Race” and it makes sense 100% of the time.

      • thutch24

        Hasn’t this always been the case? The only difference is that the Civil Rights Generation through their blood, sweat, and tears made it possible for us to be more vocal and courageous in calling them on their ish, and that’s what pisses them off.

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