I Told You So. Pt. 1

Happy New Year good people of VSB.com and welcome to the other side of the holiday season.  ‘Tis the part of the season where federal holidays are aplenty and Black men become presidents of this grand ole land of ours.

For most people, the new year represents a time for personal observation and depression reflection.  This is the time that most of us swear not to fall for the same pitfalls and dumb sh*t traps we landslided into in prior years knowing good and damn well that we’re going to keep making the same mistakes over and over.  It’s what we do.  We’s people.

Despite this human tendency towards redundant f*ckery, I (for one) still believe in this ability to learn and overcome like the good Reverend Doctor.  So it is with great pleasure that I aim to help us all enter the new year in a state of educationed focus.  You see, I believe that not only are children the future, or that if you teach them well you can let them lead the way — I also believe that if you have knowledge, thou shalt share it with the masses.

Each one teach one.

With that in mind, I shall be helping the fellows with a small segment of pride that we all are forced to face at some point or another:  the fact that we just might be dating the neighborhood ho.

Oh John the Rabbit, oh yes.  It’s happened to so many of our peers.  And it could happen to you (don’t worry ladies, I have one for you tomorrow).

So here’s a short list of ways that you can tell whether or not you, as a man, are dating the Trollop International Expressway.

1)  If she knows more men than you do.

Women are notorious for saying that they don’t like to hang with other chicks.  We all know that this makes them EB’s.  However, there’s also another alternative.  Perhaps she’s just ran thru more men than Forrest Gump ran thru states.  I mean sh*t happens and everything, but if she knows a man everywhere she goes, and her name isn’t Cheers, chances are she’s smoked more sausage than Jim Beam.

2)  If she has a few places she ALWAYS tends avoid.

The only time in my life I’ve ever avoided places was when I had somebody I didn’t want to see.  Now imagine a woman who had BEACOUP places she just NEVER wants to go for whatever reason.  My guess?  She’s got jones who’ve boned who she’s probably not trying to let know she’s got a new beau.  Which doesn’t bode well for you bucko since more than likely, she’s just using you as one of many men on her Love Train.  Coincidentally…

3)  She doesn’t find anything wrong with overly lewd acts of pleasure such as, I don’t know, trains.

Any woman who’s on the “well it’s not so bad if…” side of a conversation involving more d*cks than a 1950′s detective movie is clearly not the kind of woman you want to bring home to momma.  Or grandmomma.  Or even your bookie.  If she justifies it, that means she’s tried it.  And if she let 12 hit (at a time), well you should quit (hey, that rhymed!).  Lots of women have Rabbits, but if you find her on youtube with a horse (I refuse to put the “video” of the woman and horse up here), and you come to realize you’re dating her — just go kill yourself.

So as we start off the new year making sure that everybody here is on the right relationship track, what are some other signs that a guy just might be dating Lucy Loosethighs?!

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P

508 thoughts on “I Told You So. Pt. 1

  1. YAYYYY VSB is back. I was suffering from withdrawal. Rocking back and forth in the corner. It was getting rough out here.

    Oh, and it’s my birfday and sh*t. YAYYYY!!! :) Capricorns RULE!

  2. first, glad ya’ll are back.

    second, love the use of “trollop international highway.”

    third, I just have no words right now other than this entry tickled me so. be back in the morning. gonna actually try to be on time for my first day back at work and sh!t.

      • @blackberry molasses, ya know…and this goes for everybody, but I have to ask…

        are people intentionally saying “second this/that emotion”in reference to the Miracles song “I Second That Emotion”? or is everybody just saying “i second that notion/motion” wrong??? lol.

        even the song was a play on the fact that one of the group members erroneously said “i second that emotion” instead of “i second that motion” in a group meeting. which in most cases is also wrong.

        most of the time, i’m guessing we mean to say “i second that notion”.

        i’m just asking. i’ve read that on this site a cool 1000 times at this point and i’m wondering if its intentional (i’m guessing very few people are intentionally saying it wrong) or accidental (i’m guessing thats more the case)…

        PJ wants to know.

  3. I can’t reply to a comment on my phone for some reason…

    anyways…happy birthday luvvie! *b-day gold stars*

  4. If she NEVER answers her forever-ringing phone, AND looks at the phone and says something to the effect of “Worrisome A$$ folks keep calling me” You must get up and yell shenanigans, cut your losses, and break camp.

  5. My grandmother used to refer to women like this (Trollop International Expressway) with the following phrase:

    “son mas largas que la 95″

    literal translation they are longer than rte 95, (rte 95 N to S goes from Maine to Miami, so in essence my grandma was saying the chic was more traveled on than rte 95.)

    TRIVIA for the New YEAR the stretchof 95 that goes through the bronx is the most traveled on piece of high way in all of these United States

    My cousins and I shortened the refrence to 95 when one of my brother’s or male cousins brought such a chic home. We would just look at her and be like, “mm hmmm 95″

    • LOL i love it!! lil old latin ladies say the darnedest things. your abuelita sounds hilarious!!

        • @Intellectual Hedonist and Gem,

          Happy 2009 Ladies!! I just have to say that I love listening to spanish speaking peoples convos when they think that no one can understand them. My spanish is horrible… and was much better a few years ago (you really DO lose it when you don’t use it) but it’s hilarious.

          • happy new year, pgh muse!!!! *hugs*

            but this actually reminds me of when ppl ask me if i could have any power or ability in the world, what would it be. and i think it’d be to understand ALL languages. i HATE going to get my nails done and the vietnamese ladies just be a talkin and laughin!! i esp wanna know if they talkin bout me!!

  6. Holy crap. I JUST found VSB and feel like such a newbie! But I’ve read like 50 0ld posts and I’m hooked. You’ve been bookmarked. I now have one more way I can spend time on the interwebs and not deal with actual living human beings. Yeay!

  7. VSB is BACK!

    Woah, this must be what crack laced with angel dust and heroin must feel like. **flying**

    And how do you know you’re riding the neighborhood bicycle? *shrugs* … Iono… be back in the AM

  8. I have a question.. if she is the neighbor hood ho..how did you not know..what were you doing that makes you the last to know…seems like it might be a step up for the you in question cause he might be a lame……LMAO

        • lmao and shouldn’t new neighborhoodship come with a pamphlet on who/what/where to avoid?? seems to me the friendly neighbor thing to throw smoke signals to warn of tramps, trollops, tricks, and train-riders. i’m just sayin…

          • @Gem of the Ocean,

            lmao and shouldn’t new neighborhoodship come with a pamphlet on who/what/where to avoid?? seems to me the friendly neighbor thing to throw smoke signals to warn of tramps, trollops, tricks, and train-riders.

            this does exist. its called “myspace”

      • @Gem of the Ocean, lol! So true. I just wonder if guys really care especially if she’s attractive. Just thinking about all the guys going after girls like Kim Kardashian, Superhead, etc…

        • i think dudes would care if he was actually tryna wife her. i don’t think any man in his right mind would want a harlot as a significant other.

        • @Leila,

          What exactly do you mean by “girls like Kim Kardashian”? Did you mean Paris Hilton? Cause Kim is NOT a ho.

          She’s a divorcee – yes, and she made the mistake of f*ckin around with RayJ (of all people) but a ho, she is not.

          You can bash her all you like, but if you’re gonna draw references to mah girl, then provide examples of TRUTH, please. Thank you.

          • @RedBeanzNRice,

            What exactly do you mean by “girls like Kim Kardashian”? Did you mean Paris Hilton? Cause Kim is NOT a ho.

            you know, i was actually gonna ask the same question. i dont think making a sex tape with an ex automatically makes someone a ho or superheadesque.

            • @Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.,
              I’m sorry but i def think Kim K. is on some ho stuff for real, didn’t she let ray j pee on her!?!…but that’s just my opinion :)

    • @Shay-d-lady, hmmm…..maybe it’s not your neighborhood? and not the hood ho that you know? (that rhymed!). hence, the lack of knowledge that you are in fact, bagging the neighborhood ho. to this sad fool, she’s just the hot chick that he met at the club…

      now, is there a man law or something somewhere that states that the guys in that hood should tell the new guy that her halo is a bit warped, disfigured and covered in a black tar-like substance elimintes any and all traces of the gold luster that was once there?

      ***and i obviously need to update my handle on my work computer…

    • not directed @Shay-d-lady,

      But in WIA’s travles people that even conceptualize the neighborhood ho..have a severely limited world view and experience. Means they been in the neighborhood too long, and knows everybody’s business. And they stay plugged in, lest they get “got”.

      If you still rolling with folks you know from elementary, middle, and high school, maybe it’s time you left your little hamlet (ie Brooklyn) and saw the world.

      You got grown folks still hitting the clubs up with they real and play cousins. If 80% of the folks @ the club remember that time when you…. “- you need to holla @ Greyhound or an Army Recruiter.

      • If you still rolling with folks you know from elementary, middle, and high school, maybe it’s time you left your little hamlet (ie Brooklyn) and saw the world.

        i feel you on this tho. i know too many ppl my age from the “other” Go (dieGO that is :) ) that still know high school goings-on and can be tracked down at any number of regular hang out spots. never should i leave for 7yrs and come back to you doin the same things with the usual suspects. for shame. *smh*

  9. ¡feliz nuevo año, mi VSB gente!

    now that VSB is coming off hiatus, the Gemster will soon be geM.I.A. (hello comps) and will miss you all (again) dearly.

    to PBG and the PCC (Prayer Cubicle Crew)–please lift up Gemmy to BBJ, who is Gem’s rock ;)

    good night and good luck, good ppl.

  10. Panama? Did you mean Jim Beam or Jimmy Dean? Cause one’s a whiskey, and the other is sausage *sighs* I’m so confused.

    At any rate, one sign that you’re dating a ho, is if you casually glance in her purse, and you see that she has a few extra pair of underwear in her purse for no apparent reason.

    If she’s homeless, that case doesn’t apply.

      • @Shay-d-lady,

        Because a true ho never listens to her mama anyway – if she DID, she’d be WEARING clean draws, not carrying them around in her purse, lol.

        So, in essence, the draws in her purse signify the need to change them after her stank butt gets her “groove” on with every tom, dick and harry, and their cousin nate.

        Just my opine. ; )

    • @RedBeanzNRice,

      I agree w/the Shay-d-lady…the correlation seems suspect.

      If she’s being run through like paper towels, is she really concerned about cleanliness to the point that she carries travel supplies? Seems uncharacteristic and shyt.

          • @Please Excuse Your Significant Other,

            “strippers are very hygienic”

            But those poles AIN’T, lol. And to clarify: A stripper is not necessarily a ho.

            DEFINITIONS PEOPLE, DEFINITIONS!

            You You can strip in a club til the cows come home, but that doesn’t mean you sleep with every one who comes along.

            • @RedBeanzNRice, I dont know what clubs you been to but the strippers definitely clean the pole before they dance and they definitely can be bought….

              • @Please Excuse Your Significant Other,

                Well really I haven’t been to any strip clubs – I like my mens, so I have no interest in stripper chicks – I was only being facetious.

                But, I was saying what I said to KEEP IN LINE with the topic of the signs of dating a ho.

                My comment was about hoes, and you brought strippers into the mix, so I just wanted to point out that not all strippers are hoes. Simple.

              • and they definitely can be bought….

                i went to a “strip aerobics” class in DC on new year’s day and my instructor was selling poles. if i had a home i owned, i’d have bought one on the spot.

              • @Gem aka Senorita San Diego,

                “if i had a home i owned, i’d have bought one on the spot.”

                And I would have given you my credit card number so you could get one for me too, lol.

                PS. Is your name Pearl? Cause that’s a gem that’s found in the ocean. Just curious.

              • lmao @ “Gem aka Senorita San Diego” i love it!!!

                girrrrrl i’d fedex that pole to you with a quickness!! throw in a dvd on my tab. gotta know what you doin. don’t need anybody hurtin theyself on some experimental type ish…

                and my gobment name means pearl. coincidentally (but not really) pearls are my fav gemstone ;) though not my birthstone :(

              • @ Senorita San Diego,

                Woo lawd! Thank ya kindly, cause a sista can’t afford another “hamstring episode” before her next 21st birthday, lol.

                I like how you turned what your name means into your screen name. Very clever, indeed. But of course I would expect nothing less from the Gem of the Ocean. *3 snaps in z-formation*

            • @Resident GRitS,

              Aw hush gull – I’m only teasin. Don’t get all sensitive and sh*t, Ms. (or Mr.) PhD.

            • @Resident GRitS,

              And wait a minute here…are you new? Cause last time I checked I was the RESIDENT soul food up in this piece, lol.

              If you’re new, welcome and sh*t!

              I have to say “if you’re new” because I’m contractually obligated (unofficially) by the welcoming committee to do so, cause I haven’t been here long enough (only 2 months) to know who’s new and who’s not.

              I once welcomed a longtime, but latent poster a while back, and I felt the wrath of the committee.
              Ok, maybe not wrath, but you get my drift, lol.

              So again, if you’re new – welcome and sh*t. If you’re not, then welcome back, lol. : )

              • @Intellectual Hedonist,

                “Look at you posturing and ish”

                Heh, heh, heh. I was hoping it wasn’t that obvious, lol. A sista gets kinda territorial when it comes to soul food.

              • @RedBeanzNRice,

                U’re still “the only soul food up in this piece,” I’m just a Girl Raised in the South. The acronym is a bonus ;)

                I appreciate the cautious welcome…LOL. I found VSB late last year, but u’re the first to welcome me formally. Thanks and sh*t.

              • This is what happens when I skim sh!t…

                @RedBeanzNRice, i would agree that ‘wrath’ was a bit strong. more like a sisterly nudge with a slight side-eye ;-)

                @Resident GRits, well hallelujah anyhow! as a fellow GRITS myself, and since i may have missed you the first go ’round (hey, errbody gets one), welcome and sh!t. you get a *platinum trimmed gold star*

              • @RG

                clearly I can’t spell today… so I’m going to shorten your handle.

                If you want to become a licensed user and hustler of Diva Dust ™ please make an appointment to meet me in my office at SparkleSistas Industries, LLC.

                The gold stars with platinum are non-transferable and are yours in perpetuity. Sorry, but you can’t knock our hustle.

              • @bbmo,

                “If you want to become a licensed user and hustler of Diva Dust ™ please make an appointment to meet me in my office at SparkleSistas Industries, LLC.

                The gold stars with platinum are non-transferable and are yours in perpetuity. Sorry, but you can’t knock our hustle.”

                *daps*

                newbies….i tell ya…smh

              • @BBMo,

                …I’ll leave the dusting to the vets, however, I am honored to have been a recipient.

                (0rchestrates the smooth, many-hands fake w/the star just out bbmo’s line of sight)

              • @Resident GRitS,

                Well, you’re welcome! Even though you initially got the “boot-leg version” of a welcome. I didn’t have any glitter, diva dust, gold or (now) gold AND platinum stars to sprinkle on you.

                All I ever have to give is an “open-hand slap in the da mouf”, along with Miss T-Lee’s “throat punch”.

                You’re lucky Miss T didn’t welcome you, lol.

    • @RedBeanzNRice,

      At any rate, one sign that you’re dating a ho, is if you casually glance in her purse, and you see that she has a few extra pair of underwear in her purse for no apparent reason.

      ok. this made me choke on my bacon wrapped smoked turkey

      • @Panama Jackson,
        “wait…i’m the only one who adds whiskey to my smoked sausage???!?!?!!?”

        Well, you and half of Humboldt county; nothing to be ashamed of, lol.

  11. You know yo jawn is a shmeeze if you can easily (without the aquafina flow flowing) fit 3 or 4 fingers up in that jawn

    • @Please Excuse Your Significant Other,

      Really? What about 2 weeks after giving birth? I’m sure a whole hand could fit up there easily – does that make her a ho?

      And why would she be doing anything right after giving birth? Let’s say she got knocked up and dude left her. She met someone new while she was maternally inclined, and after she gave birth he respected the 6 week rule. So, they did “other things”.

      So again, my question to you is does that make her a ho if he could easily get his whole hand up there – considering the circumstances?

      *fighting to not use Johnny Cochran citing, if it doesn’t fit…*

      • @RedBeanzNRice, hahahaha @ Johnny Cochran

        But that’s obviously an exception. There are exceptions to other rules too

      • @RedBeanzNRice

        “So again, my question to you is does that make her a ho if he could easily get his whole hand up there – considering the circumstances?”

        Yes.

      • @RedBeanzNRice,

        And why would she be doing anything right after giving birth? Let’s say she got knocked up and dude left her. She met someone new while she was maternally inclined, and after she gave birth he respected the 6 week rule. So, they did “other things”.

        Red Beanz, I am definitely one to use the label “Ho” very sparingly…. but if some woman is sexing and being fisted by a man who is NOT her child’s father 6 weeks after giving birth… i’m seriously questioning her judgement. My .02…

        • @pgh muse,
          “but if some woman is sexing and being fisted by a man who is NOT her child’s father 6 weeks after giving birth… i’m seriously questioning her judgement.”

          Not sexing, and definitely not being “fisted”. But, his finger could have just slipped – next thing ya know, it’s his whole hand in there. IDK – I think that if dude was with her during practically her whole pregnancy, playing baby daddy/hubby/errand boy, it’s alright if she lets him sample her “goodies”. But that’s just me, I reckon.

          • @RedBeanzNRice,

            But, his finger could have just slipped – next thing ya know, it’s his whole hand in there.

            Ok. i understand what ur saying. the biological bounced and this other dude is with her… and his finger slips. Ok. I understand. If he is filling in the daddy shoes then that is her man (pretty much) and what they are doing is their business. I’m following…

        • @pgh muse,
          “but if some woman is sexing and being fisted by a man who is NOT her child’s father 6 weeks after giving birth… i’m seriously questioning her judgement.”

          This reminds me of the Heidi Klum/Seal situation – she was sleeping with him while pregnant with another man’s child. Lo and behold one calls her a ho though!!!!

    • @Please Excuse Your Significant Other, Se I almost want to disagree with you on the premise that the Vag is a muscle and each person’s “muscle” has different flexibility, and if it is a woman that has had children in the past her “muscle” may not be as tight as anothers

      It’s a muscle

  12. If every guy at the bar is her ‘cousin’…and you ain’t never met an auntie…the ‘family reunion’ is always in her bed

  13. If she swears that she is a virgin but you know at least one person that hit. If she can hide 1, she can hide 1000. Besides you met her VIP in the club, justbecause you popped a bottle, now ya’ll in love, foolishness.

    • @J. McFly, you know, i’ve met 30 year old virgins. it amazed me, but they actually do exist.

      like Santa and talking M&Ms.

      merry christmas.

      however, i do think 99 percent of women are lying whenever they tell you how many people they’ve slept with…that’s why i never ask. its like asking her to lie to you, especially when you won’t believe her anyway. you might as well just watch Coming To America and sip some Henny.

      • @Panama Jackson,

        however, i do think 99 percent of women are lying whenever they tell you how many people they’ve slept with…that’s why i never ask. its like asking her to lie to you, especially when you won’t believe her anyway.

        do people actually still ask this question?

      • @Panama Jackson,
        “however, i do think 99 percent of women are lying whenever they tell you how many people they’ve slept with…that’s why i never ask. its like asking her to lie to you, especially when you won’t believe her anyway.”

        In the words of Chris Rock: if you ask a woman this question it doesn’t matter what her answer is, it will still be too much for you!
        She could say 2 ad your reaction would be: 2????2???
        NO,NO,NO,NO! Guess thas how u was raised!!!

        Why men ask this question befuddles my mund!

        • @Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.,

          there’s always a reason to lie, lol. if you cant find one, then you’re just not trying hard enough

  14. In the words of Eddie Murphy,

    Merry New Years!!
    I got 10 cool points for anyone who can guess the movie that line came from.

    Now on to the topic . . .

    I can see how a guy can get caught up in this type of situation. They can be from different neighborhoods or whatever. I been in those shoes before. I found out about her because it’s a small world after all & shyt. I was messing with this girl my last year of high school and first year of college, that had lived across town. When I got to college, I became friends with one of her old classmates who gave me the scoop. It was 4 months later when me and the classmate realized we had a mutual friend. At first I didn’t believe it, until I seen the signs for myself.

    So my tip is to listen, listen listen. I not saying you should believe everything you hear, but if you keep hearing stories about a chick, then I would suggest you proceed with caution. Sometimes the girl in question family members or friends will try to warn you.

    Another sign that you’re messing with a ho that lives in a different neighborhood is if you hear laughing and snickering from ninjas as you and your lady friend walk down the street.

  15. I take notice of all of these things after I have dealt woth these women in the past. You can also throw in women that have had a lot of “boyfriends”. I learned early that some women use the term boyfriend pretty loosely.

    • @Humble_One,

      hindsight is mofo.

      BTW it’s 2009 why hasn’t the flying car or Time Machine been invented yet????

      • @eff yo couch,

        I don’t know why it hasn’t been invented yet. Somebody needs to do it. Maybe I can make my own flux capacitor and put it in my car. I need to go back in time. There are a few women that I missed that I could of had and a few I need to avoid.

    • @Humble_One,

      You can also throw in women that have had a lot of “boyfriends”. I learned early that some women use the term boyfriend pretty loosely.

      lol…this is true. then you have some women claiming men who wouldn’t claim them with a gun to their heads. its sad and sh*t

    • @Nicki Sunshine,

      “I don’t usually do this . . .but uh . . .go ahead and break em off with the remix.”

      This is also a line from R Kelly, so you know if you hear someone say that, you should immediately run in the opposite direction.

      BTW, I still love that song. Damn you R Kelly!

    • @Nicki Sunshine,
      “I don’t usually do this…”

      LMAO!!! This reminds me of that interlude off of BIG’s Ready To Die and the lyrics to 8Ball and MJG’s “Space Age Pimpin’”.

      “constantly tellin me the things you don’t do
      Yet you do it like a pro and think I don’t know”

        • @V Renee,
          Yes ma’am.
          I think this was one of their best songs.
          That and “Don’t Flex”….
          *sniggling*

          • @miss t-lee, i almost choked on my soup. i looooooved that song at an age where it was probably totally inappropriate. that video was ri-damn-diculous though. smh.

            • @SouthernGirl,
              I knew waay too many songs that were inappropriate at a young age.

              Let’s see, to name a few:
              “Don’t Fight the Feelin” Too Short
              The entire Geto Boys “We Can’t Be Stopped” album
              along with NWA’s “Straight outta Compton” album
              followed by DJ Jimi’s “Where Dey At?” (Bytches Reply).

              Just to name a few…
              *sniggling sommore*

              • @miss t-lee, girl, you ain’t neva lied. don’t have me busting out the archives of sh!t I was hiding from my mama…blacking out parental advisory stickers and flipping tape/cd inserts and sh!t…whatchu know ’bout that? I should have stock in black sharpies. lol.

    • @Nicki Sunshine, yeah, i automatically assume that anybody who says that is lying thru their veneers.

      dumb chicks will tell you they don’t usually do this the second time they do it to you.

  16. Sign # 46 she is a Slut Puppy–She honestly believes that every guy she has ever slept with has wanted to/still wants to wife her and she credits her head game or that little trick she does.

  17. This is one of my worst fears.lol. I dread being “that guy”. I think a lot of the sure signs have already been mentioned. This topic kinda reminds me of a subtopic about groupies….

    • @Slim Jackson, “This is one of my worst fears.lol. I dread being “that guy”.”

      You and me both! Especially in the sorority/fraternity world . . . I would hate to hear that the girl im talking to used to be a pet . . . . when you have a little too much hate for a certain org . . . very questionable.

        • @PEYSO from the Brook,

          At my age this still kind of bothers me. The past is the past but I am still kind of scared of being exposed to something or being with the women dudes talk about in legend. i.e Superhead

          • @Humble_One, this is an interesting dynamic. I recently saw a picture of a girl I had “a past” with tongue-kissing her current dude online. I couldn’t help but think “if only dude knew…”. The truth is, we’ve all probably been that dude at some point.

            • @Monk, “The truth is, we’ve all probably been that dude at some point.”

              This is the damn truth . . . I suppose in these cases ignorance is bliss. As long as she has a clean bill of health anyway. . .

      • @IVR,
        this reminds me of Sat night actually. I was at the Founder’s Day soiree for my Nupes and me and my friends were pointing out ‘pets’ all night. Invariably she was some form of that one girl who is extremely familiar with all the guys in a particular chapter, and gets called some nickname when she’s out of earshot. They come in all ages, shapes and sizes… and they were the ones standing guard at the door to the suites giving the side eye to every other woman who dared to walked in.

        i died at least 25 deaths that night

        • @Slim Jackson, “I’m in a Frat, so the point you make is exactly what I had in mind.lol.”

          Werd . . . especially if they are from another region . . . next thing you know you are at a national convention with a bunch of her “big brothers” . . . this is scary @ me . . . this post just makes me think about my current situation.

          sorority girl w/ distaste for another organization
          first nighter (didn’t expect me to call her back)
          possible past h* sh!t . . . maybe.

          BUT I’m trying not to be so judgmental . . . . fingers are crossed like a muthaphukka tho.

          • @IVR,

            just outta curiosity, why would you wanna “boopiece” you have doubts about to the point your fingers are crossed like a muthaphukka??

            • @Gem of the Ocean, “just outta curiosity, why would you wanna “boopiece” you have doubts about to the point your fingers are crossed like a muthaphukka??”

              Well crossed fingers is a bit extreme. . . but I do think about it . . . especially with the topic of today . . . but she is good to me . . . so I will try it out. I am normally a bit judgmental so I am trying something a bit different.

              • @IVR, dammit IVR! I swear you gets into more sh!t than a little bit…lol. I feel like every other story you tell is about some twisted love triangle stalker crazy crossed fingers chick type mess.

                you know i e-lurve you though. im’ma send a *gold star* your way and hope it works out for you. lol.

              • lmao @ SG. exactly!! IVR always got a “you should not eat or drink anything while reading this” type story.

                IVR–do you boo!! if you’re happy, i’m happy for you. but i will say, the minute i stopped being “so judgmental” about the men i date, that’s when Hades broke loose. i’m just sayin…

              • @IVR, “dammit IVR! I swear you gets into more sh!t than a little bit…lol. I feel like every other story you tell is about some twisted love triangle stalker crazy crossed fingers chick type mess.
                you know i e-lurve you though. im’ma send a *gold star* your way and hope it works out for you. lol.”

                I think everyone has craziness that happens to them . . . I am just a bit more forthcoming here on VSB because I can use the advice (my male associates use me as a guinea pig and provide advice that they would never follow) . . . I have been in some crazy situations very recently though. . . thanks for hearing me out VSBers.

              • @IVR, “IVR–do you boo!! if you’re happy, i’m happy for you. but i will say, the minute i stopped being “so judgmental” about the men i date, that’s when Hades broke loose. i’m just sayin…”

                This is the problem . . . I have been told that I was too judgmental by my female acquaintances . . . I know I have engaged in a plethora of whorish activities so can I really expect a woman to not have had a few wtf moments? I don’t know . . . we will see.

              • i understand. but your female acquaintances arent going to be in your relationship–you are. my guy friends tell me im judgmental all the time too. but when i let my london bridge down, that’s when the stalkers, crazies and mamas boys by umbilical association invade. our judgments of ppl often help us pick who we think is right for us (and true, sometimes they just get in the way). i’m not saying you cant date a girl who’s done, been on some, wrote a book on ho sh*t. but i am saying, once you have doubts, it’s a wrap. usually a set up for failure.

                but that’s just mho. :)

              • @Gem of the Ocean, “i’m not saying you cant date a girl who’s done, been on some, wrote a book on ho sh*t. but i am saying, once you have doubts, it’s a wrap. usually a set up for failure.”

                I appreciate your opinion Gem . . . it makes perfect sense . . .

  18. I’m so glad ya’ll are back.
    *singing* “You’s a ho….You’s a ho…You’s a ho, I said that you’s a ho…”

    I haven’t read all of the comments so this might be a repeat, but if you’re at the club, and she knows every single dude at the club? Start thinking…real hard…lol

    • @miss t-lee, lol, working at the club i see lots of stuff. i remember this one particular chick who had to have known at least HALF the cats in the club one night. THEN, on her way OUT of the club, she walks by one of our security guards and grabs his sh*t, THEN she walks up to another one and just open mouth kisses him (he wasn’t expecting that).

      i asked them if they knew her and they were like, “P, we’ve never seen her a day in our lives…”

      she? ‘s a ho.

      • @Panama Jackson,
        “THEN she walks up to another one and just open mouth kisses him (he wasn’t expecting that).”

        I could NEVER do anything like that – too afraid of the herpes. *sighs* The boldness of hoes never ceases to amaze me.

        I actually wonder if they teach a class somewhere about ho-sh*t on butt-nekkid Wednesdays with glitter and beepers.

  19. If you started to appreciate her because she was a booty call that was too good to be true… it probably is.

    And…

    If she is a booty call that constantly talks about wanting to be in a relationship, but doesn’t complain about remaining on-call.

  20. Your chick is the neighborhood spunk bucket if you can describe a sexual act or amazing feat a woman pulled in bed without mentioning her name and the person you’re having the conversation with says “oh, yeah, sounds like Sheila.”

      • @Slim Jackson,

        LOL…
        I’m certain someone has heard that somewhere. Have you ever gone on Facebook and seen girls you know were out there but they are now married with children and real holy religified…but you can’t help but remember her under the bleacher antics?

        • @CPT Callamity,

          Have you ever gone on Facebook and seen girls you know were out there but they are now married with children and real holy religified…but you can’t help but remember her under the bleacher antics?

          off the top of my head i can think of 5 that were unadulterated freaks from 18-22, who are now born again with asian kids and sh*t

  21. Had a certain female once tell me that “they” call her Einstein . . . this was some of the hoeist sh!t that ever happened to me (that I know of).

      • @Please Excuse Your Significant Other, “I knew a girl we called the headmaster.”

        Yeah, its bad enough that people are saying it about you . . . but when you start bragging about it. . . ehhh . . . no bueno.

        • @IVR, this is generally my beef with Superhead. like, you have a son too…how did she manage to find a school to put her son in where nobody knows his mother’s claim to fame is her domegame?

          why can’t you just pick a better name? like strippers do.

  22. Hey VSB’ers! What a wonderful way to waste my day, la-la-la….

    Signs you’re messing with a Trap Door:

    1. A lengthy date (maybe the first) turns into an unexpected overnight visit. She runs to her car and pulls out a bag with baby wipes, condoms, edible body oil, back up panties, a t-shirt, sweatpants and a can of mace. Otherwise known as the “ho bag”. Mumbles something about “always being prepared” when your mouth drops open.

    2. You introduce yourself to the potential lady friend, “Hi, my name is Dewey.” She replies, “Did you just say your name was Do Me?” and rubs your leg. *BTW – this is a true freakin’ story.*

    3. When you show interest in attending services with her she immediately switches her church membership to one that is at least 20 miles away from her neighborhood.

    4. She avoids attending her h.s. reunion rather than take you with her. People may still remember her nickname, “Bobble-head Brenda”.

    5. You hear a low electric hum and think your girl must be playing with her “toy”. In reality, it’s her phone lighting up like a Christmas tree with calls and texts after 11pm.

    6. You hear your girl on the phone saying things like, “So when are you and the team getting into town?”, “Oooh, you so silly’!” and “Not anymore, I don’t!” Later she claims that these were family members. Riiiiiiight.

    • @Lil’T,

      “2. You introduce yourself to the potential lady friend, “Hi, my name is Dewey.” She replies, “Did you just say your name was Do Me?” and rubs your leg. *BTW – this is a true freakin’ story.*”

      so what happened next?

      • @Panama Jackson,

        Short answer: They began boning on her lunch break.

        Now, this was my 2520 co-worker who pulled this ish. She’s 40, married to a brotha, 5’10″ and kind of looks like Big Bird. She was often heard claiming that she “just didn’t know why” the brothas adored her, usually to single black women. The Lawd kept me from whooping her azz on gp once I turned in my 2 week notice.

    • @Lil’T,
      “3. When you show interest in attending services with her she immediately switches her church membership to one that is at least 20 miles away from her neighborhood.”

      Now you know that’s a doggone shame, LMAO.

  23. L.M.A.O. @ this post. Praise be 2 gawd that VSB is back!!! Yay!

    newho… How do you know that you’re dating the neighborhood ho? Well, idk … ALMOST every grown women worth her salt has done some ho sh*t… so if you hit her with the “Oooh i saw xyz do xyz,” and she justifies it cuz she’s done it… I think you should feel good becuz she might do xyz wit’ yo’ azz. lol…

      • @The Champ,

        ummmm… a one night stand, or two. An experiece (or two) that only her and the other person (people) involved know about. I’m not talking about trains, animals, or anything like that. I’m talking about sexual exploration. Being in touch with oneself sexually. There’s nothing wrong with it. But this is usually looked at negatively or as ho sh*t. Idk… my .02 cents.

          • @The Champ,

            is there a difference between “ho” and “occasionally participant in ho sh*t”? if so, what is it?

            Good question. And to that I would have to answer yes. If we are going to use this label to define people or their behaviors, i would label a “ho” as a person who just completely uses and abuses their body for the pleasure of another person or other people. This is a person who may find some enjoyment in what they do, but they are totally doing what they are doing because they think they’ll gain some favor from somebody else. Or they do what they do to feed some empty feeling that they have in themselves. Being a “ho” can totally become a compulsion. Doing “ho sh*t” on the other hand may be participation in some behavior that is looked on as explicit or something that “nice” clean people don’t participate in (but wish they did) lol… but the person participating does what they do in a balanced rational state of mind. LONG answer… lol

            • @pgh muse,

              …agreed. there’s a difference between sleeping around and being exclusively freaky within the confines of a relationship.

  24. OH and i just have to ask… is anybody as excited as I am about the NOTORIOUS biopic. I am sooo hyped – like i would maybe wait a couple hours in line to watch this flick!! Is it just me???

      • @The Champ,
        That ish is gonna be wacktacular. You can tell from the previews…lol
        I’mma catch it on bootleg.

    • @pgh muse, yeah, might just be you.

      i mean i plan on seeing it eventually. but wat in line for hours?

      “that’s just not for me.”

      100 cool points for anybody who can tell me what movie THAT quote came from.

    • @ Alise, Champ, Panama

      Boooo!! Ya’ll get a teeth suck and the Gas Face!! LMAO i kid, i kid… Derek Luke as Puffy? A little piece of the golden 90′s on the big screen? The Versaci shirts? The Coogi sweater? Lil’ Kim? And the Music?? Sheit, u can knock me over with a feather. I can’t wait to see it. I will NOT purchase this one from my local bootleg dvd man :)

        • @Relax, Relate, Alise,

          lol. I KNOW! Believe me. I understand. But i am soo excited. I can’t wait to see the actor playing Tupac. And Angela Bassett playing Biggie’s mama?? I can’t ruin the experience by buying the bootleg. I’ll buy that after I see it on the big screen.

      • @pgh muse, i think thats part of the problem…Derek Luke as Puffy? hm. no.

        Lil Kim doesnt even support the movie. for 2. and the music? i got all of Biggie’s CDs. i’m cool for 3.

        i mean i’ll probably see it, but the problem with putting such prominent personalities like Biggie, Puffy, and Pac (Anthony Mackie? man…with all the ACTUAL tupac lookalikes out there he’s the best we could do?), i worry about just how good a movie it will be.

        Tupac: Resurrection was good and creative, more of a documentary…

        this? i’m worried about.

        • @Panama Jackson,

          Ehh… I’ll only be disappointed if it’s just a really bad movie. I like Anthony Mackie. I did read that Lil’ Kim didn’t support the film due to how she’s portrayed. It may suck. It may be horrible. But i’m still excited.

        • @Panama Jackson,

          i mean i’ll probably see it, but the problem with putting such prominent personalities like Biggie, Puffy, and Pac (Anthony Mackie? man…with all the ACTUAL tupac lookalikes out there he’s the best we could do?), i worry about just how good a movie it will be.

          thats the problem with making a bio-pic about someone’s who’s only been dead for a decade. the memories of the real people are too fresh in our minds. i think they should have waited another 45 years to make this shit

    • @pgh muse, “like i would maybe wait a couple hours in line to watch this flick!! Is it just me???”

      this is how i felt about Nixon/Frost… lol

    • @pgh muse, “OH and i just have to ask… is anybody as excited as I am about the NOTORIOUS biopic. I am sooo hyped – like i would maybe wait a couple hours in line to watch this flick!! Is it just me???”

      I’m with you on this PGH . . . I’ll wait in line to see a movie about BIG . . . Brooklyn we did it!

      • @IVR, Im sorry did I miss something? Is Brooklyn getting residual money from Biggie’s estate. I will watch this movie in the comfort of my home not having to worry about anything popping off or people talking during the flick. Im copping the bootleg or watching via the interwebs, just like I did seven pounds

        • @Intellectual Hedonist,

          I hear u, but i really need to have the whole experience for this one. Maybe it’s me reliving my youth… idk. But… i definitely feel u on this:

          just like I did seven pounds – that movie was great. My bootleg was CRYSTAL clear… but for like the 1st half hour i kept asking my sister what was wrong with Will Smith’s face!! He looked like he had to go to the bathroom or something the whole movie. face all contorted and ish…

        • @Intellectual Hedonist, “Im sorry did I miss something? Is Brooklyn getting residual money from Biggie’s estate.”

          I am sure Brooklyn is not getting any residuals and being a current Virginia resident I dont think id be entitled to a stimulus from the royalties. . . BUT I identified with BIG . . . the soundtrack of my youth if you will . . .all the way back to the Bobby Simmons video of Gimme the Loot on Video Music Box (I think) . . . I feel compelled to see it in the movie theater . . .that is all.

    • Do yall remember a few weeks back on Panama’s “Sexxy” post there seemed to be a lot of people talking about Biggie? Well the next day is when they started airing the commercials for the new movie. I’d like to think that VSB brought out everyone’s inner psychic.

      VSB: Where psychosis happens.

  25. one sign that always seems to be true is the nickname. to expound, when a woman is known by or answers to a nickname instead of her government, then she’s probably a ho.

    also, it doesn’t matter how mundane the nickname sounds. it could be anything from “magic marker” to “pepper”. all that matters is that the nickname is known by more people than her regular name.

    • @The Champ, that’s not true… it’s gotta be a particular type of nickname. if her nickname is “bird” and she’s skinny, short, and yellow, it’s cool – if no one knows her name is arjuanitricka? it’s for the best.

    • I disagree also, no one knows my government name but that’s b/c the shat is hard to say so I just tell everyone Tea and they roll with it.

      And #1 is also wrong, I know hella men…everywhere I go it seems that I know someone, men and women alike. And as far as the men I haven’t even come close to sleeping with an tenth of them. Some people are just popular, period.

      • @Teacia, though Tea may be a nickname, if its an actual variation on your name, then it doesnt count. now, if you were telling folks to call you Teabag, well, then that’d be different.

        and look, i’m popular too. but you can tell folks who are a little too popular if you know what i mean. if you ONLY know men…sorry.

        it was written.

      • @Teacia, I agree with you. The only people that call be my real name are people at work and anyone’s who’s not that close to me. It really depends on the type of nickname.

    • @The Champ,

      So what if the nickname is just a variation of her own name or has something to do with her personality? You know, like the way guys are nicknamed.

      For instance some people call me the Voice of Reason because I talk folks out of doing stupid ish. And the nicknames that derive from my own name are endless. Is it just that my nickname situation uncommon?

      • @Voiceofreason,

        “…You know, like the way guys are nicknamed.”

        thats the thing. there are different dynamics at play in regards to nicknames and gender. generally speaking, male are given nicknames as signs of affection, while females, well, ummm, aren’t. many nicknames are born through some sort of teasing, and men generally tend to tease as a bonding activity, while women’s teasing tends to be a bit more insidious. in my experience, the women who grew to be known by whatever nickname they were given usually turned out to be “trap-doors” as well.

        and, to your other point, theres a big difference between a few friends calling you “the voice of reason” (which is waaaaaay to long to be a real nickname, lol) and everyone from college knowing you as “the eraser”.

        • @The Champ,

          theres a big difference between a few friends calling you ‘the voice of reason’ (which is waaaaaay to long to be a real nickname, lol) and everyone from college knowing you as ‘the eraser’

          LOL! The rest of my nicknames are variations of my 1st or middle name. I’m not listing those ’cause I can’t have anybody guessing my gov’t.

  26. So exactly what makes a ho a ho? Is there a clear definition? Do women have a different definition than men? I know some women are obvious hos like Superhead, but others frequently walk the line.

    I have a friend who is black, knows she’s black, and doesn’t care (which means she wears her token merit badge with pride). She had a 313 roomie in college and she insisted the girl was not a ho even though she had a different guy in their room everynight, and had check out time for the guys she entertained. In my opinion she’s a ho because she had absolutely no problem doing the business while my girl was in the room and she did it with a new guy every night (unless she felt like recycling). My girl said she’s not a ho because she was in college, she had no other place but their room to do her activities, and most of the guys wanted to be in a relationship with her after check out time.

    So am I right? Is that trick a ho? Or is my girl right? Or is it a matter of opinion? By the way, I think for a lot of women, a ho is a woman who does anything she wouldn’t do.

    Another question: Is it wrong to say “ho” or should people use softer words and phrases like “Sunday morning” or “friendly and giving”?

    Sorry if I started rambling. I always have tons of questions on this subject.

    • @Voiceofreason,

      “So am I right? Is that trick a ho? Or is my girl right? Or is it a matter of opinion? By the way, I think for a lot of women, a ho is a woman who does anything she wouldn’t do.”

      being a ho ain’t an opinion. it is fact.

      • @Panama Jackson,

        I agree, but people are always telling me it’s a matter of opinion. Could you provide a clear, concrete definition?

            • @Voiceofreason,

              I appreciate ur attempt at a p.c. reference…but “Sunday morning” seems a little blasphemous. Stick with easy.

          • @Panama Jackson, “lol. i view ho-dom like soft porn. i may not be able to define it, but i know it when i see it.”

            I am feeling this statement . . will attribute all future usage to vsb.

          • @Panama Jackson,

            lol. i view ho-dom like soft porn. i may not be able to define it, but i know it when i see it.

            although i’d take out the “soft” qualifier, i have to say that this was some poignant sh*t

    • @Voiceofreason,

      Let’s examine the evidence:

      * she had a different guy in their room everynight
      * check out time for the guys she entertained
      * she did it with a new guy every night (unless she felt like recycling)

      Yeah… *singing* H*… (H*!) she’s a H*… (H*)!!

      • @blackberry molasses,

        yep… she’s doin ho activities with ho tendencies… hos are her friends hos are her enemies…

        :)

      • @blackberry molasses,

        Yeah, my girl is just in denial because it’s her friend. Plus my girl is EXTREMELY confused. She thinks it’s perfectly normal for straight women to kiss each other a long as their in college. All her good friends are 2520′s except me which I think explains a lot.

        • @Voiceofreason,

          my very best friend on the entire planet (besides BBJ and my momma) is 2520. NEEEEEEVER in our friendship has she ever co-signed that shyt, unless you identify as a lesbian. That bi-curious crap that permeates PWI colleges… yeah. It needs to stop. My eyes were assaulted far too many times in undergrad…

          • @blackberry molasses,

            i went to a PWI and work at one, I still see this all the time and it’s bothersome partially because as an admin I am trying to be supportive to your “sexual orientation” but I cant keep up when you keep switching teams on a daily basis

          • @blackberry molasses,

            I think that behavior is more common amongst 2520 chicks, but plenty of them have good sense and would never co-sign on it.

    • Damn son, she ain’t just a ho, she’s a coitus concierge

      a sommelier for ball-sweat
      a dick drive-thru
      a…I’m tired, yall get the point.

        • @Relax, Relate, Alise,

          LOL!!! I tried to tell her all of that. I told my girl she was just as trife for staying in the room even if she was asleep.

          • @Voiceofreason, hell naw, wtf, b!tch please and she must think it’s a game!

            f^ck save ‘em, captain i am a ho, would’ve had to take her HOtivities somewhere else cause ain’t no way i would be in the next bed three steps over listening to you fill in the blank with who’s is it every night. NO MA’AM!

  27. Here is another sign,

    At any gathering (non-club atmosphere) she makes it her business to make lingering eye contact and BS small talk with every man in the room. And I mean EVERY man. Attached or not.

    Sidenote-This is also the chick who will eff your man and smile in your face. I know her and I keep her VERY close to my cuff. She doesnt even make the liqour run with any dude I date.

    • @Suga&Spice, what, you don’t trust your menses??

      i always wonder why women assume that men just aren’t a) good enough; or b) strong-willed enough to fend off advances from other women. seems to me like a lot of women are trying to save their men from cheating by helping him not put himself in a situation in which she’ll get screwed. which means you all dont trust your men much in the first place…

      …or rather, you trust him to be a man…in which case, how can you get mad if he cheats?

      Gettin’ Philosophical with Panama. Weekdays at 3pm, right before Oprah.

  28. “chances are she’s smoked more sausage than Jim Beam.”

    lmao… i can always count on you for hearty chuckle. thanks panama.

    so can i state the obvious?? if you get lucky on the first date… you were trollop trampling…

    • @laylah,

      I think that hitting on the first date is a better sign that she ain’t had none in a while, not necessarily that she’s a ho.

    • @laylah,

      Hitting on the first date is not ho characteristics, but if she fcuks me like Pinky on the first date then just maybe . . .

      • @eff yo couch, “Hitting on the first date is not ho characteristics, but if she fcuks me like Pinky on the first date then just maybe . . .”

        Or if she is asking for it in the backdoor before the deed begins? *true story*

        • @IVR,

          Back door first? Waaaaaaooooowwwww. Run fast, my man. Run fast and far, before something climbs out of that abyss and attacks you.

        • @IVR,

          Do you and I know the same person? One of my friends told me about a similar experience she had in which she wanted it in the back door first. She says she’s not a ho* because she’s not selling anything, which, I guess, is a valid distinction. But I think casual ho-dum (as opposed to technical, which involves the selling of wares) is a little more nuanced than that.

  29. hm Hey Panama I didn’t know Jim Beam made sausages. I thaught it was just the whiskey. My great auntie calls em bow leggid girls. snicker
    I haven’t read any of the comments as of yet, but did anybody name some of the things mentioned in the boondocks episode?

      • @Panama Jackson,

        I stan for the Boondocks and particularly that episode

        well, if we go by those rules, that means she’s a professional h* with representation. are we talking about those girls too? cuz then you would know. you would be PAYING in one way or another

      • @Errboday,

        but 4 reals. Is there a litmus test for moral character? I mean in the anthology inspired by God (read Bible) it says, ‘all have sinned and fallen short of the glory’. yo no se`

    • @WuDaMan,

      OMG – the track running in high heels!!

      “It’s like you’re a Captain Save A…..me.”

      Please don’t have me at my desk wheezing. Again.

    • @WuDaMan,

      Lol. I think it’s Jimmy Dean sausages. I didn’t even catch that the first time around.

  30. Today’s topic has me thinking about the character Dashiki from the classic movie “Don’t Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood” (don’t ask why I can remember that long @ss title, but have trouble remembering my girls b-day, smh)

  31. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!

    Oh how Ive missed my Smart Brothas! I’m glad to see everyone made it safely throught the holiday season!

    On todays post I dont have too much else to add. Except maybe if her hair is always jacked.

    In college, all the chics with the whipped hair were usually getting it in constantly. Why get your hair done when you’re just going to sweat it out later that night?

  32. Also today’s topic can be solved with a simple equation.

    (the number of the ho in questions kids) divied by (the number of babies dadies)

    If your answer is more than 2 then either has a bad judgement of character or she’s a ho.

    But like it was mentioned a up-thread some ho’s are very hygienic

  33. ok so I have a serious question as it relates to this topic:

    What if you inherently aren’t a ho but have a ho streak ( a period of time that you need to just do you and others randomly) you get it out of your system and reform yourself (whatever that means)

    Can you comeback from H*dum, or is it truly once a H* always a H*?

    • @Intellectual Hedonist,

      I don’t have an answer, but I wonder. Can you start out being a h*, or does one work their way up?

      That girl who wanted it in the backdoor in my earlier comment? It was her first time.

        • @Gem of the Ocean,

          Touche’

          I was gonna say that we were 15 at the time she told me about this and that made it more likely that it was her first time, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything either.

      • @WordSmith

        She may have just been wanting to keep her “virgin” status. I remember back in high school there was a rumor that this couple only had anal s3x because she wanted to continue claiming that she was a virgin.

        • @V Renee,

          I call that an “everything but girl” or “virgin ho”. They’re usually in high school or college and figure as long as they don’t go through with having s3x they can do everything else with as many guys as they want. I knew this chick who was always “just taking a shower with a guy” or giving him a professional, but she was still a virgin.

    • @Intellectual Hedonist, “Can you comeback from H*dum, or is it truly once a H* always a H*?”

      Question of the day I suppose.

      • @IVR and IH, I actually believe in the concept of a “rehibilitated hoe”. Just as a teenage girl can grow to be a rehabilitated hoodrat who reforms her ways. Or maybe I just believe in hope…who knows.

        • @Monk,

          I’ve noticed that rehabed hos like to talk ish about hos on active duty. Probably because they secretly want to get back in the game.

    • @Intellectual Hedonist,

      Good question.

      I’m also wondering what if you are good girl with ho tendencies? Does that make you a ho?

      What if you are reading all the responses and breathe a sigh of relief that you haven’t fallen under any of the descriptions? Does being slightly paranoid that your past may fall under someone’s definition of ho make you a ho?

    • @Intellectual Hedonist

      “Can you comeback from H*dum, or is it truly once a H* always a H*?”

      I think you can comeback from H*dum, look at Superhead…oh wait nevermind she’s not reformed. What about Paris Hilton, oh wait nevermind. Maia Campbell?? oh wait her slutacious ways were due to crack. Ummmmmm what about Tracy from up the street. She made a comeback. She’s in the choir at church now and doesn’t miss bible study. So I guess a comeback is possible!

      • @Intellectual Hedonist
        “Can you comeback from H*dum, or is it truly once a
        H* always a H*?”

        I think you can visit Ho-dom. You just have to make sure you don’t take an overnight bag, and be careful not to move there.

        Cause once you take up residency in Ho-dom, there’s no get back.

      • @V Renee,

        Maia Campbell also had a lot of issues with getting attention from her mom who was a serious workaholic (one of my girls grew up with her in LA). Then her mom had such an untimely passing so I think she’s struggling with personal issues.

    • @Intellectual Hedonist,
      I’ma man up & draw the hard line. No, Yes. I mean a Lion can go vegan but he gonna want some antelope. It would have to be a program to follow like the 12 steps of whoardom deliverance service included.

      • @WuDaMan,
        ” I mean a Lion can go vegan but he gonna want some antelope. ”

        Oh lawd…why must I cry?! lol

  34. I’ve been reading the site for a minute, but never commented. Great site! You all are very entertaining. My co-workers think I’m losing it because I am always cackling at my desk.

    If you ever go to a house party or “get-together” of the girl that you are dating/getting to know and the male to female ratio is 7:1, most likely the overflow of men are jump-offs.

    I have a friend who is always throwing some sort of party at her place and this is always the case. I never go there with the intention of meeting a guy, because she has usually dealt with all of them and none of them know. She’s good, because she works the room, but never really stays with one guy for too long. It’s always a hilarious situaition for those who know the deal.

    • @I was wondering….,

      Welcome, and thanks for sharing. I do apreciate this creapy chester grin that I got from your friend’s sittuation. lol

    • @I was wondering….,

      Sounds like your friend is very talented if the fellas can’t see what’s going on. Or the guys are slow or don’t really care.

      • @Monk,
        That’s what I was thinking.
        I was like “girlfriend’s got skillz”.
        In more ways than one.
        *rimshot*

            • @Intellectual Hedonist & WuDaMan

              *sighs* Why the gutter minds? Yall some temporary pervs, lol. When Miss T said *rimshot*, I immediately thought of a drummer’s high-hat being played after a phrase worthy of acknowledgment.

              This is so discouraging. Et tu, IH? I would expect that of Wu, but you? *sighs* Please say it ain’t so.

              • @RedBeanzNRice,
                hold up. she started out saying she got skills. I was like what kinda skills well the commonality in the invited guests was that they have been seen naked by the hostess…

    • @I was wondering….,

      Umm, for some reason parties with a 7:1 ratio of men to women make me veeerrry nervous. They’re either desperately seeking female company – or they’re a little too comfy with no women around. Sounds like you may be in a college setting though, which is totally different.

      • @Lil’T,

        i was tlaking to a guy recently and he was sharing with me stories of how he SWINGS and he described a similar ratio. Typically there needs to be more men than women at these functions cause the male recovery time is longer than the woman’s

    • @I was wondering….,

      welcome and sh*t. and…

      If you ever go to a house party or “get-together” of the girl that you are dating/getting to know and the male to female ratio is 7:1, most likely the overflow of men are jump-offs.

      I have a friend who is always throwing some sort of party at her place and this is always the case. I never go there with the intention of meeting a guy, because she has usually dealt with all of them and none of them know. She’s good, because she works the room, but never really stays with one guy for too long. It’s always a hilarious situaition for those who know the deal.

      …i know of someone who fits this profile to a T, so much so that i think we might be talking about the same person

    • @I was wondering…., another one sucked into the abyss…welcome and sh!t…*PT gold stars*

      and it’s a bit late so i’ll throw some borrowed *diva dust v 2.0 ™* your way since bbmo is off duty.

  35. Stop it w/ the Socratic sage seeking & sequestering of selfish systems on secksuality…

    Here’s the chase’s cut. You wanna know if your punjabi princes is a penile profuctory pincushion? I’ll tell you how you know.
    1. Define a eich Oh ezzel for yourself (really what = a hoar and nothing else in this world)
    a. if you got to change rules and names and categories of penetration in order to protect the innocent (most times you n yo Mama) [really it shouldn't but hey Panama said to thine own self be true for this post]
    2. Hold this person to your definition’s standard.

    & if the 7″ clear heals fit so be it.

    • “You wanna know if your punjabi princes is a penile profuctory pincushion?”

      @WuDaMan,

      You never cease to amaze me with your use of words. lol

    • @WuDaMan,

      7″ clear heels are all the rage on the skreets. All the flyest ladies wear them, and they just stroll up and down the blvd showing off their great shoes.

      oh, wait…

      • @Lil’T,

        bwuahahahaha ya killin me Lil’T. Because everybody knows that the modern day Cinderella only has to get home by club let out time 2:00 a.m. lol

        • @WuDaMan,

          Dang, they gave that ho an extra 2 hours? How many upstanding chicks do you know that do their most “magical” work at night?

          • @Lil’T,

            I knew a few that did shift work. I’m from and still work in industy. Where the motto is ‘production stops for no one’ Nino Brown prolly took a page out of U.S. Steel or some other industrial plant’s playbook.

      • @Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.,

        Actually what happens when you meet someone who you think is ‘that dude for yourself’ and you begin to care about what they think. Especially what they think of you. What then do you change your game plan and step things up or do you get honest and hit the bricks? Or even if yall is the it & they learn to get over it.

      • @Luvtheshoes,

        I would say a freak is defined by what she does and a ho is defined by who she does. IMO you can be with only one person all your life, but some of the things y’all do together are well beyond kinky. Making you a freak. Your run of the mill ho may never do anything more fun than missionary, but if she “missionaries” with every guy on the football team the scarlet “H” will glow on her forhead. If I were a guy I would be ecstatic about having a freak in my life. Not so much with the ho.

        • @Lil’T, “Your run of the mill ho may never do anything more fun than missionary, but if she “missionaries” with every guy on the football team the scarlet “H” will glow on her forhead. If I were a guy I would be ecstatic about having a freak in my life. Not so much with the ho.”

          Yeah but say you meet a freak, who is a freak from jump . . . kinda questionable there . . . maybe her “girlfriends” are very vivid about their acts and she just wanted to try them with you . . . or maybe she is pan del pueblo. You can NEVER know . . .

  36. I’m wondering the same thing as Lil’ T and I also want to know from the VSB’s… WTF is a good “girl” and is she over 25? Cuz all these distinctions and shyt seem like characterizations for very young people… who have may still live at home or something.

    • @pgh muse,

      My mamma said that a good girl is good at what she does. Then again, my mamma didn’t recuperate from New Years Eve until yesterday.

    • @pgh muse,

      “good girl” is a relative term. but, to your point, there are men who intentionally only date women much younger than them because they’re less likely to have been “used up”, which is a roundabout way of saying that theyre still “good.”

      what it comes down to is the fact that most (not all…but most) men, if given the choice, would rather not be in a serious relationship with a women who’s considerably more “experienced” than he is.

      before we start railing about the double-standardness…it goes both ways. on the flip side, most women probably wouldnt choose to be with a guy who’s considerably less experienced than she is. in a nutshell, while many guys don’t mind being the “teacher”, many women seem to abhor it.

      ok…i’m getting off track here. i just wanted to give some insight about the reasoning and thinking behind the “good girl” distinction, and why it’s relevant.

      • @The Champ,

        I won’t rail against the double standard, Champ. It’s archaic… but for those who continue to subject themselves to that thought process, good luck with that. But i do have to address this…

        while many guys don’t mind being the “teacher”, many women seem to abhor it.

        I have to disagree with this. The only women who abhor being the teacher in a physical relationship with a man are prolly those who don’t and have never had an orgasm. This is another by-product of the double standard and the patriarchy. As a woman, you have to be the teacher when you first get physical with someone… otherwise how will he please you? Every woman is different and even the most experienced man may need some tips and pointers on what lights a particular womans fire. So… i think this is a male ego problem once again :)

        • @pgh muse,

          Clapping in my cubicle….

          Stand up! Tell that man it’s the horizontal wiggle, not the verticle, that puts the shiver in your spine and the tingle in your pringle! Awww, don’t let him forget ladies, never let him forget! Yooou hold the keys to the treasure chest! *wiping sweat from brow* YOOUUU are the master of your “dome”-main! *smacking the back of my head* YOOOUUU are the principal! He is the student! Yesssaa!

          ok, ok – no more coffee for Lil’T today.

        • @pgh muse,

          Every woman is different and even the most experienced man may need some tips and pointers on what lights a particular womans fire.

          i dont disagree with any of this. everyone is unique, and everyone has different buttons and sh*t.

          all i’m saying is that its more of a stigma for a guy to be less experienced, and also that there are many women who’ll openly state some variant of they “aint got time to teach noone”. i’ve seen/heard this sentiment expressed numerous times, even on this site

          in a nutshell, maybe the male ego contributes to this mindset, but no more than the “full-of-sh*t-ness” trait that many women possess.

        • @pgh muse,
          “The only women who abhor being the teacher in a physical relationship with a man are prolly those who don’t and have never had an orgasm.”

          I agree! You have to tell a man what you like right?

          • @Ivy St.,

            Maybe not. Hows this a guy can be body language fluent. Have a g-spot geiger counter in his trifecta (hands & heads). And you wanna bring up old shyt. Stop being a victim of your own mutitaskability and enjoy the ride. You win some you lose some. but @ least you didn’t give him the instructions on sunshining you when he was out for a quickie. Now you out in the day time w/ your high beams on looking for who may just have been a mediocre lay. smh You’d think all the testing women do they would learn to use it to their advantage but nooo they just get all greedy… *ranting*

            take off the Alexxys Tyler pilot outfit. lol

            • @WuDaMan, umm . . .who is the translator for these shenanigans happening on my screen here? someone help.

              • @IVR,
                mah bad. here goes. Lets say that the woman is a little less experienced than she thinks. How about budy may know how to use his tools better and diffrently than she has ever experienced. If she gets all busy micro managing him she’ll miss out on a new and exciting experience.

                After all she learned her tricks w/ some other trick and there is a reason she isn’t boinking him on said night. And maybe if he does the same old cecks move it may remind you why you don’t do it w/ the ex and sour thaughts are running through your head. Stop Thinkin So Much and Enjoy this Good D. So what I’m saying is no you don’t have to tell a man what you like all the time ladies. I just hate being micro managed. & under estmated.

            • @WuDaMan, You just want to have something to say to me… what you typed made no sense. Happy New year to you too! The monkeys say “ooo AA Hi”

              To respond to your coded comment, there is a way to do it. A woman doesn’t say “NO DO IT LIKE THIS YOU IDIOT.” She is gentle and says “right there” or something like that. You get it. I know men can read body language but he only gets a positive response when he does something good. If he never makes it there, then what should I do… wait?!?!? And quietly at that. LOL!
              *takes of pilot outfit and puts on rodeo outift*

              • @Ivy St.,
                Okay so happy new year to you too. What can I say I’m an introvert. When ole dude does some dumb shyt yeah say something. But if he’s really doing it right and knows what to pay attention to. You don’t have the ability to fathom the words ‘right’ or ‘there.’ Heya lil monkeys. Is yall high today? (that was what you do to them get em high and see how they react in withdrawl just me speculating)

              • @Ivy St., “If he never makes it there, then what should I do… wait?!?!? And quietly at that. LOL!”

                WuDaMan thank you for the translation that makes more sense to me . . . I believe people know what gets them off. I don’t mind the guidance because I know different women have different “things” . . . some want you to bite it, some want suction, some want both . . . some like it like the dogs do it . . . some hate it . . . I think I have to agree with Ivy on this one. If the woman doesn’t tell me I am just going to do something that got another chick off and that may not work for said chick.

              • @Wu,

                I just hate being micro managed. & under estmated.

                I’m not saying ANYTHING about anything like this. Me personally, before i sleep with a man we have a number of conversations. I’m into communicating. So it’s not micromanagement – it’s communication. I think that people should talk about sex before they do it. At that point u can discuss ur likes and dislikes.

              • @IVR

                I can hear you in effing stereo. I’m just saying that if you say do this just like this. You are discounting what could be off a natural interaction. I mean if someone is extra pasionate or excited in the bedroom. That is going to come across in the bedroom. And wouldn’t you like to know if your sentiments are reciprocated. I’m like this don’t give out the safe and cecks security codes before it’s time. Ole boy could then just rest on the shared info just to get him some stand by n keep doing just enough to get him some more.

                @ Muse
                Just saying who knows if there isn’t something new that this one person is capable of doing that you have not tried are not privey to that would be your new key to tingleville. Just saying keep your options open. You may be turning down a free multiple settling for one Woooo We. You never know.

              • If he never makes it there, then what should I do… wait?!?!? And quietly at that. LOL!
                *takes of pilot outfit and puts on rodeo outift*

                i know that’s right!!!!!!!!! *hi fives ivy*

        • @pgh muse,

          I teach children all day, now I gotta teach him, too?! I can’t do it…I won’t do it.

          We can have a dialogue. We can explore. But, I’m officially off-duty.

      • @WuDaMan,

        Maybe… but I don’t run w/ a pack of loose women. Most of my friends and associates are grown, 27 – 33, and some are married and or have been with the same partner for years. Some may have had their ho sh*t phase, but these ladies are experienced from the most part because of long term commitments, not being ho’s, or disrespecting themselves. They haven’t necessarily slept with a whole lot of men, but during the course of an LTR you are going to learn a few things about yourself, your partner, and sex. So unless you’re completely sheltered and/or inexperienced, or innocent an adult female is going to know what she likes. And if she’s smart she’s going to share that with her partner, hence being the teacher. He’ll teach her how to please him too. But that works both ways.

          • @Ivy St.,

            Okay 1. I know how people learn about cecks.
            2. I just think that you all are selling yourself and your partner short when you micro manage (read undermind his intelagence and ability) 3. You aren’t accounting for what could be a new and awesome experience. Because different people have different energies @ different times.

            If you keep living in the past you gonna keep getting what you always got.

            • @WuDaMan,

              I’m not disagreeing. Believe me… i’m in an ltr and sometimes he tells me he’s driving… and that’s just what happens. But that doesn’t mean we haven’t communicated about what i like. it just depends on the energy and the moment. Cuz i like to drive too ;-P

  37. You know shes a hoe when her vag looks like a wizard’s sleeve. haha

    But on a more serious note, it’s hard to determine if a woman is a ho or if she’s just adventurous.

  38. If she let’s one of your boys hit, then let’s you hit eventually, all the while knowing that he probably told you he hit, then she may qualify as a slore

    Been with a member of every frat in the NPHC? Coincidence? Maybe… or she might be a c*mbucket

  39. Who: *Stroy aka D*pain
    What:Missing
    When: Last seen on VSB in 2008
    Where: Somewhere in NY?
    Why: “Nobody knows…” (holla Peyso)

    Message: D*stroy, please come back. Aint no financial crisis, baby makin, baby birthin, i love it when you call me big poppa, you IS the favva, real life scenario gon keep you out our e-lives! I thought we were e-bffs????

    I am willing to provide my “more people” who miss D*pain list upon request (Aif, Luvvie, etwin be on standby)

    If yous lurkin like a muhbrotha, just know we miss you!

    • LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

      to the poster of this comment: i know who you are!!! and you’s a damn fool!!!

      but fa real tho, where the heck you at, D-peezy!?!?!

    • @Have You Seen Me?,

      As I watched my 1 year old nephew open his and everyone elses gifts I thought of D*Pain (and severla others that had their first chillen this year) and what joy it is to witness someone’s first Christmas.

      the image was ruined by my 7 year old neice counting the amount of her sister’s gifts.

      Anyway

      D* where are you?

  40. Happy New Year lovely VSB people.

    Your girl might be a ho if her hair is always messed up a day or two after going to the salon.

    Your girl might be a ho if her cute outfits are always wrinkled (she’s probably always pulling off her clothes and tossing em around).

    Your girl might be a ho if she smells like stale sweat mixed with bath and body works. Don’t let the cucumber melon fool you, she’s probably got a little bottle in her bag.

    • @shhwhisper, “Don’t let the cucumber melon fool you, she’s probably got a little bottle in her bag.”

      My training instructor during boot camp referred to the cucumber melon spray as fufu hoe spray and we used it to mop the dorm. This is not one of the smellgoods that I like because it smelled exactly the way you described it when used to mop floors . . . memories.

  41. @ WuDaMan
    I’m not saying micromanage. I like a new trick just as much as the next one. BUT, if it’s not working then I’m gonna have to teach you. I’m not saying I’m the most experiences (I don’t have to be), but I still know what I like.

  42. i feel like it’s been forever since i’ve commented here…

    what about swinging? i mean, i don’t see anything wrong with going to the swingers club to have sex in public but with other couples like orgie style i think there’s some evidence there…

    or if you see her making eyes/blushing with the cashier or counter guy/girl at inserrections (or whatever ur favorite sex shop is)

    or if once you go to inserrections, they know her name and have a room reserved for her…

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