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The Best Dating Advice For a Man? “Never, Ever Listen To Women.”

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Would definitely fare better with the ladies if he drove a Prius

(The following is an abridged version of a great conversation that The Champ may have never actually had last weekend with a young man who might not actually exist. )

Young Man (“Tommy”): “That doesn’t make any sense.”

Champ: “Why not?”

Tommy: “You’re supposed to be giving me advice about how to be more attractive to women, and your first piece of advice is to ignore everything women say about what they find attractive.”

Champ: “And?”

Tommy: “Well, doesn’t it make sense to get it from the source? I mean, who better to ask about women’s wants and desires than other women?”

Champ: “Hmm. What we have here is a failure to understand basic human behavior. If you don’t retain anything else I tell you, please just remember this one fact: Women are the absolute last people you should be getting advice from about what women find attractive. Why? Well, they have no f*cking idea themselves! Seriously, you have a better chance of hearing a hot 16 from Wiz Khalifa than you do of meeting a woman who knows exactly what they want in a man. And, if you happen to find the one chick in a billion who knows exactly what she wants, good luck in getting her to actually articulate it. It’s like asking a gazelle why they love getting eaten by cheetahs.”

Tommy: “So, just don’t listen to women, ever?”

Champ: “I wouldn’t take it that far. You should probably listen to your mom and when female baristas tell you that your hot chocolate is, in fact, hot. Also, once you’re actually in a relationship, listening to your girlfriend/wife every once in a while isn’t the worst idea in the world.

That aside, life has shown me that the single worst dating mistake young (and old) men make is crafting their behavior around the “cacophony of completely arbitrary noise” that’s better known as “women’s professed wants and desires.

And, just so I don’t come off as a raging misogynist, “women” could very easily be replaced with “humans.” None of us — men, women, West Virginians — know what we want about anything. Sh*t, I can’t even tell you what I want for dinner tonight, so how the hell do you expect me to know exactly what I’d want from something as complex as a romantic relationship?”

Tommy: “So, um, why am I even listening to you?”

Champ: “Because.”

Tommy: “Okie dokie. So, since I’m not supposed to listen to women, ever, what should I do?”

Champ: “Pay attention. That’s it. Pay attention to what they respond to. Pay attention to who they say they need to stay away from. Pay attention to who makes them nervous.

And, if you want to get specific, if you’re interested in a particular type of women, pay attention to the type of men that those women always seem to date. For heaven’s sake, don’t ever f*cking listen to a word any of them say about what type of men they find attractive, but watch closely, read, observe, assess, and act.”

Tommy: “Anything else?”

Champ: “I’ve noticed that smelling good seems to really help. Seriously, I know some women who’d f*ck a Michelin snow tire if it smelled like Escada Sentiment. What’s weird is that once they start to actually like you, “smelling good” means “any smell you produce aside from a fart.” They’ll eventually become hooked on your everyday scent, but you need some artificial assistance to lure them in. Basically, cologne is to women what lacefront is to men.

Also, I’d advise you to introduce an element of surprise in your life.”

Tommy: “So, hide in shadows and sneak up on b*tches?”

Champ: “Um, not exactly. I’m trying to teach you how to attract women, not homicide detectives. By “surprise” I mean that it tends to intrigue women if they learn something about you that they really didn’t expect.

For instance, if you look like Kimbo Slice, the women you meet probably aren’t going to be very impressed by your collection of Smack DVD’s or your tendency to chase down and stab motorists who’ve cut you off. But, if you generally look, dress, and act like Carlton Banks, revealing a side that’s a bit more “hood” and aggressive than they’d expect from you will make them think “Hmmm. That’s interesting.” And, as we all know, “Hmmm. That’s interesting” is internal womenspeak for “Hmmm. My thighs just got 8.5% more damp.

Tommy: “I guess that makes sense. I think women would be more impressed by a linebacker at spoken word than some Frankie Lymon looking-ass n*gga.”

Champ: “Right! This is actually what women’s (and men’s) magazines always get wrong when they’re advising men. Women aren’t impressed by men who are well-read or work out regularly or can educate them about our foreign policy as much as they’re impressed when these tasks are done by men who they wouldn’t immediately associate those attributes too.

I mean, if you’re a f*cking accountant, of course you should be able to wax poetic about the economy and the deficit, and you showing off this knowledge on a date aint going to impress anyone. But, if you’re an accountant who plays semi-pro rugby and the drums for a local hip-hop band? Instant Irene.

Tommy: “Irene?”

Champ: “Get it? Wetness? Moisture? Hurricane Irene?”

Tommy: “I see.”

—The Champ

Come and hang out with Panama Jackson this Saturday, September 3, 2011, as he throws the 2nd installment of Reminisce, a party dedicated to all 90’s everything. From 10-3pm, DJ Cuzzin B will be spinning nothing but the best of hip-hop, r&b, and dancehall from the 90’s. Best of all it’s FREE before 11pm ($10 after), there’s an OPEN BAR FROM 10-11PM and no dress code. It’s cheaper to party than it is to stay home. Oh, and no hurricane. So come party with VSB, Shine on Me, and Just Cause at Liv Nightclub, 2001 11th Street, NW, Washington, DC.

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Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for and EBONY Magazine. And a founding editor for 1839. And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at Or don't. Whatever.


Why Monogamy?

  • Tes

    Since it matters not one way or another what I have to say about wants and desires, I’ll just sit back and listen closely.

    *pulls out notepad while pulling up a bean bag chair*

  • tgtaggie

    All I want to know how old is “Tommy”? ‘Cause Nephew Tommy and his uncle got to be the same age.

  • The Other Jerome

    Huge lol at that pic!

  • E

    I’d say that women do know what they want (which may be in many cases what another woman has), but I do agree that paying attention to what women say is important.

  • CurlyTop

    I really don’t think gazelles like being eat by cheetahs. But this statment
    “Basically, cologne is to women what lacefront is to men.” is TRUTH! Smelling like you bathed in Aqua Velva or Sean John’s Own the Night makes you the anti-Irene.

  • shortydoowop

    What?? Me? A lurker? FIRST?!

    HHHNGGGG!! *thats a heartattack ya’ll*

  • Brickhouse817

    My biggest pet peeve is when a man asks me what do I want our relationship to be like, aka:what do you want from me! It drives me nuts! Fool, I dont know how you are within a damn relationship. Act normal and I’ll tell you whether or not I like it!!! *stomps off angrily*

    BTW, lol at the pic and Amen to this subject. I dont what I want but when I see it I’ll take a picture.

  • Andi

    I agree. I think this definitely applies to people in general. Folks are full of sh!t. Nobody really knows what they’re doing. And a lot of “I always” and “I nevers” can be nuetralized by the right place/time/person.

    As far as what people want, it’s kind of like Potter Stewart trying to define p0rn0graphy, “I know it when I see it.” For me personally, I know myself, I have a good idea of what my needs are, and I know what I want out of life. So it’s not so much that a man needs to have x,y, and z, but whatever his letters are they need to fit mine. I have a good guess as to what he might be like, but I’ll know it when I see it.

    I also agree about complexity being a turn on. I like having to figure someone out. Unless I don’t like what I’m seeing, then he goes back in the box and I take out a new puzzle.

    But back to the original topic, I’m with you Champ. Never listen to (wo)men about what they want in a partner. This is why as much as I love the e-fam in the comments section, I take everything everyone says with a Costco sized vat of salt….

    Corporate thug…? -_-

  • Corey

    While I personally agree with the sentiment here, you do realize that every woman in this hemisphere that has electricity is going to vehemently disagree with you right? Or maybe that further proves the point….hmmmmm…..

  • El T LOVE!

    Man that’s so real it’s unreal. Women will tell you what they like and date the exact opposite every time. My dad sprinkled me a long time ago. Never had a problem with the ladies.

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